QA问答:为什么民族独立这么重要？
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Why is national independence so important?
为什么民族独立这么重要？
为什么民族独立这么重要？
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Anand Nyamdavaa, Worked in Development Field
Consider my country Mongolia. It’s located between China and Russia. Two of the biggest countries in the world, they also possess the biggest militaries in the world. No other country in the world can attack Mongolia, as they would have to go through either Russia or China. So in this situation one might ask, why is independence important for Mongolia?
说说我的国家蒙古。它位于中俄之间。世界上两个最大的国家，也拥有世界上规模最大的军队。没有其他国家可以攻击蒙古，因为必须经过俄罗斯或者中国。所以在这种情况下，有人可能会问，为什么独立对于蒙古来说这么重要？
Consider my country Mongolia. It’s located between China and Russia. Two of the biggest countries in the world, they also possess the biggest militaries in the world. No other country in the world can attack Mongolia, as they would have to go through either Russia or China. So in this situation one might ask, why is independence important for Mongolia?
说说我的国家蒙古。它位于中俄之间。世界上两个最大的国家，也拥有世界上规模最大的军队。没有其他国家可以攻击蒙古，因为必须经过俄罗斯或者中国。所以在这种情况下，有人可能会问，为什么独立对于蒙古来说这么重要？
Mongolia suffered two hundred years under Manchu rule and seventy years under Soviet unx. What we lost:
蒙古被满人统治了200年，被苏联统治了70年。我们失去了什么：
蒙古被满人统治了200年，被苏联统治了70年。我们失去了什么：
Lineage tree: Due to these occupations, Mongolians lost our lineage tree and history. Before, every family could, based on their books, tell at least 9 previous generations. We were able to say if we came from Chinggis Khan ancestry or not.
Language: during soviet occupation, our written system was abolished. We followed the more “modern” Cyrillic alphabet.
in both occupations freedom fighters and people who advocated independent policy were arrested and shot.
Chinggis khan and his legacy was forbidden to study during communism
Religion: Buddhism (lamaism) was introduced into Mongolia to pacify warlike Mongols
1、世系谱：由于这些占领，蒙古人失去了自己的世系谱和历史。以前，每个家庭根据家谱至少可以向前追溯9代人，这样我们就知道自己是不是成吉思汗的后代。
2、语言：苏联占领期间，我们的书写系统被废除。我们采用了更加“现代的”斯拉夫文字。
3、在这两次的占领中，自由斗士和倡导独立政策的人们被逮捕和杀害。
4、苏联政府禁止人们研究成吉思汗及其遗产。
5、宗教：佛教（喇嘛教）被引入蒙古以安抚好战的蒙古人。
Language: during soviet occupation, our written system was abolished. We followed the more “modern” Cyrillic alphabet.
in both occupations freedom fighters and people who advocated independent policy were arrested and shot.
Chinggis khan and his legacy was forbidden to study during communism
Religion: Buddhism (lamaism) was introduced into Mongolia to pacify warlike Mongols
1、世系谱：由于这些占领，蒙古人失去了自己的世系谱和历史。以前，每个家庭根据家谱至少可以向前追溯9代人，这样我们就知道自己是不是成吉思汗的后代。
2、语言：苏联占领期间，我们的书写系统被废除。我们采用了更加“现代的”斯拉夫文字。
3、在这两次的占领中，自由斗士和倡导独立政策的人们被逮捕和杀害。
4、苏联政府禁止人们研究成吉思汗及其遗产。
5、宗教：佛教（喇嘛教）被引入蒙古以安抚好战的蒙古人。
So what have we learned from this? If you want your culture, language and traditions to remain with you, keep your country independent. We have a great saying:
“Миний нутгийн газар шорооноос бурхан гуйсан ч бүү өг”.
“if god comes to you and asks for some dirt from your land, don't give it”
Meaning that your country, your motherland is more important than anything else. Btw its also motto of our Border Guards…
所以我们从中学到了什么？如果你想保护自己的文化，语言和传统，那就要让你的国家保持独立。我们蒙古人有句老话：“如果神想从你的土地上获取一些土壤，不要给他”。
也就是说你的国家，你的祖国比任何东西都重要。顺便说一句，这句话也是我们边境部队的座右铭。
“Миний нутгийн газар шорооноос бурхан гуйсан ч бүү өг”.
“if god comes to you and asks for some dirt from your land, don't give it”
Meaning that your country, your motherland is more important than anything else. Btw its also motto of our Border Guards…
所以我们从中学到了什么？如果你想保护自己的文化，语言和传统，那就要让你的国家保持独立。我们蒙古人有句老话：“如果神想从你的土地上获取一些土壤，不要给他”。
也就是说你的国家，你的祖国比任何东西都重要。顺便说一句，这句话也是我们边境部队的座右铭。
Azat Abdulkerim Mutellip
Mongolia was never a part of the Soviet unx and was never occupied. It had Soviet army stationed though…
The communist government made great effort to reduce Buddhist influence. Also it was introduced during the Yuan dynasty, several centuries before the Manchu occupation.
Chinggis Khagan was taught in history books as a part of the long Mongolian history. Communist Russia didn't dedicate a whole book to Ivan IV and Alexander Nevsky and communist China didn't talk about Li Shimin and Ying Zheng that often. They tend to focus more on the history of the common folks - the ordinary people that worked, died, and served under the great leaders and conquerors.
Cyrillic alphabets was introduced when the majority was illiterate and an obsolete Uyghur scxt with sets of special rules and exceptions isn’t generally suitable for the progress the People's Party tried to make in a short time follow by rapid industrialization.
While tribal structure is an important part of the Mongolian heritage it also is a hierechy dictated by the feudal ruling class, Tajis, Wangs and Khans.
1、蒙古从来不是苏联的一部分，从未被苏联占领。只不过有苏联军队驻扎在那里。
2、苏联政府努力减少佛教的影响。而且佛教是在元朝期间引入蒙古的，过了几百年后才被满人占领。
3、蒙古历史书里是有教授成吉思汗的历史的。苏联也没有整本书都讨论伊凡四世和亚历山大内夫斯基，而中国也不会经常谈论李世民和嬴政。他们倾向于更多的关注普通人的历史。
4、斯拉夫文字的引入是因为当时大部分蒙古人都是文盲，而且过时的维文有很多特殊的规则和例外，这不利于蒙古的快速发展。
5、虽然部落结构依然是蒙古遗产的重要组成部分，但却也是封建统治阶级所规定的等级制度。
Mongolia was never a part of the Soviet unx and was never occupied. It had Soviet army stationed though…
The communist government made great effort to reduce Buddhist influence. Also it was introduced during the Yuan dynasty, several centuries before the Manchu occupation.
Chinggis Khagan was taught in history books as a part of the long Mongolian history. Communist Russia didn't dedicate a whole book to Ivan IV and Alexander Nevsky and communist China didn't talk about Li Shimin and Ying Zheng that often. They tend to focus more on the history of the common folks - the ordinary people that worked, died, and served under the great leaders and conquerors.
Cyrillic alphabets was introduced when the majority was illiterate and an obsolete Uyghur scxt with sets of special rules and exceptions isn’t generally suitable for the progress the People's Party tried to make in a short time follow by rapid industrialization.
While tribal structure is an important part of the Mongolian heritage it also is a hierechy dictated by the feudal ruling class, Tajis, Wangs and Khans.
1、蒙古从来不是苏联的一部分，从未被苏联占领。只不过有苏联军队驻扎在那里。
2、苏联政府努力减少佛教的影响。而且佛教是在元朝期间引入蒙古的，过了几百年后才被满人占领。
3、蒙古历史书里是有教授成吉思汗的历史的。苏联也没有整本书都讨论伊凡四世和亚历山大内夫斯基，而中国也不会经常谈论李世民和嬴政。他们倾向于更多的关注普通人的历史。
4、斯拉夫文字的引入是因为当时大部分蒙古人都是文盲，而且过时的维文有很多特殊的规则和例外，这不利于蒙古的快速发展。
5、虽然部落结构依然是蒙古遗产的重要组成部分，但却也是封建统治阶级所规定的等级制度。
Steven Burton
You skipped the part were Mongolia had China under its rule.
蒙古也统治过中国，你省略了这部分。
You skipped the part were Mongolia had China under its rule.
蒙古也统治过中国，你省略了这部分。
Anand Nyamdavaa
well the question was about independence
但是这个问题问的是独立。
well the question was about independence
但是这个问题问的是独立。
Katakam Manas Teja, Top Writer 2017 , 2018
I come from a country that suffered a herculean colonial exploitation which lasted for about 1.7 Centuries;
India , the Jewel of the Crown of imperial Britain.
Now when we look back into history, India had always been the Global Powerhouse of the World and had a lion’s share of the World GDP for most of the history.
The share of the Indian GDP in the world was about 25% when the British set foot on the shores of India in 1700s
我来自一个被殖民剥削了170年的国家；印度，大英帝国皇冠上的那个宝石。现在我们回顾历史，印度一直都是一个世界强国，在大部分的历史时间里其GDP都占据世界的大头。
18世纪当英国人开始登陆印度时，印度的GDP大约是世界的四分之一。
I come from a country that suffered a herculean colonial exploitation which lasted for about 1.7 Centuries;
India , the Jewel of the Crown of imperial Britain.
Now when we look back into history, India had always been the Global Powerhouse of the World and had a lion’s share of the World GDP for most of the history.
The share of the Indian GDP in the world was about 25% when the British set foot on the shores of India in 1700s
我来自一个被殖民剥削了170年的国家；印度，大英帝国皇冠上的那个宝石。现在我们回顾历史，印度一直都是一个世界强国，在大部分的历史时间里其GDP都占据世界的大头。
18世纪当英国人开始登陆印度时，印度的GDP大约是世界的四分之一。
And half way through their administration [ or say maladministration] , the GDP share was halved, i.e. around 12.5 %
And when they finally left , the share of the Indian GDP fell into a bottomless pit- an abysmal 4%
So while the British consolidated their position as a Global Superpower, they left India in complete tatters.
Share of world GDP throughout history by Dave Drabble - Infogram
Now, let us look at the loss of human lives during the famines caused due to the benevolent British Administration.
在英国统治印度一半时间左右的时候，印度的GDP占比几乎被砍半，只有12.5%左右。
当英国人离开时，印度GDP跌到谷底，只占世界GDP的4%，所以虽然英国巩固了自己的全球超级强国地位，可是它却让印度变得如此不堪。
现在我们来看看英国政府所引发的大饥荒所造成的死亡人数吧。
And when they finally left , the share of the Indian GDP fell into a bottomless pit- an abysmal 4%
So while the British consolidated their position as a Global Superpower, they left India in complete tatters.
Share of world GDP throughout history by Dave Drabble - Infogram
Now, let us look at the loss of human lives during the famines caused due to the benevolent British Administration.
在英国统治印度一半时间左右的时候，印度的GDP占比几乎被砍半，只有12.5%左右。
当英国人离开时，印度GDP跌到谷底，只占世界GDP的4%，所以虽然英国巩固了自己的全球超级强国地位，可是它却让印度变得如此不堪。
现在我们来看看英国政府所引发的大饥荒所造成的死亡人数吧。
A staggering 50 Million Indians perished while the British minted money, mined and shipped away the Indian resources in between 1770–1942.
Timeline of major famines in India during British rule - Wikipedia
Now, I hope it is understood why National Independence is important .
英国人在印度印钞，采矿和运走自然资源，在1770-1942年间，有5000万印度人死亡。
英国统治时期印度发生的主要大饥荒——维基百科。
现在你明白为什么国家独立如此重要了吧。
Timeline of major famines in India during British rule - Wikipedia
Now, I hope it is understood why National Independence is important .
英国人在印度印钞，采矿和运走自然资源，在1770-1942年间，有5000万印度人死亡。
英国统治时期印度发生的主要大饥荒——维基百科。
现在你明白为什么国家独立如此重要了吧。
Hridith Sudev (ഹൃദിത് സുദേവ് ), A dedicated lover of history for twelve years
As an Indian I am saddened to refer to my country as ‘India’, an English name derived from Indus River which in turn comes Arabic Hindus, which is a poor translation of the river’s actual indigenous name Sindhu.
Despite having 22 official scheduled languages and around 1,550 dialects, I have to name my Motherland in a foreigner’s language BECAUSE We were not independent for a solid 200 years. This is what colonialism does. No matter who or how good, the colonizer is, it destroys the individuality of the colonized peoples.
That is why National Independence is so important.
To preserve the integral sense of who you truly are.
作为一个印度人，我真的不想称呼自己的国家为“India”，这个英文名源自“Indus River”（印度河），而Indus又源于阿拉伯语的“Hindus”，而这个翻译是很差劲的，因为这条河流的固有名字是Sindhu。
尽管印度有22种官方语言和大约1550种方言，而我却必须以外国人的语言来称呼自己的祖国，因为我们被外国统治了200年。这就是殖民主义干得好事。不论殖民者是谁，他有多好，但是它都会摧毁被殖民人口的个性。
所以国家独立是这么的重要。只有民族独立，你的完整性才能得以保留。
As an Indian I am saddened to refer to my country as ‘India’, an English name derived from Indus River which in turn comes Arabic Hindus, which is a poor translation of the river’s actual indigenous name Sindhu.
Despite having 22 official scheduled languages and around 1,550 dialects, I have to name my Motherland in a foreigner’s language BECAUSE We were not independent for a solid 200 years. This is what colonialism does. No matter who or how good, the colonizer is, it destroys the individuality of the colonized peoples.
That is why National Independence is so important.
To preserve the integral sense of who you truly are.
作为一个印度人，我真的不想称呼自己的国家为“India”，这个英文名源自“Indus River”（印度河），而Indus又源于阿拉伯语的“Hindus”，而这个翻译是很差劲的，因为这条河流的固有名字是Sindhu。
尽管印度有22种官方语言和大约1550种方言，而我却必须以外国人的语言来称呼自己的祖国，因为我们被外国统治了200年。这就是殖民主义干得好事。不论殖民者是谁，他有多好，但是它都会摧毁被殖民人口的个性。
所以国家独立是这么的重要。只有民族独立，你的完整性才能得以保留。
Orlando Barrios, works at Miskatonic University
Why is national independence so important?
Because, in the end, people (you & your fellow nationals) prefer to be screwed by your own than be screwed by foreign forces that want to impose their own rules on you and steal your wealth.
Of course, that doesn’t mean ‘your own’ won’t steal your wealth, too… :)
为什么民族独立如此重要？
因为人们（你和你的同胞）终归更喜欢被自己人瞎搞，而不是被外国势力侵略和掠夺财富。当然，这不意味着“自己人”不会窃取你自己的财富。
Why is national independence so important?
Because, in the end, people (you & your fellow nationals) prefer to be screwed by your own than be screwed by foreign forces that want to impose their own rules on you and steal your wealth.
Of course, that doesn’t mean ‘your own’ won’t steal your wealth, too… :)
为什么民族独立如此重要？
因为人们（你和你的同胞）终归更喜欢被自己人瞎搞，而不是被外国势力侵略和掠夺财富。当然，这不意味着“自己人”不会窃取你自己的财富。
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