欧美网友:美食大比拼之欧洲vs美国
2021-09-20 yzy86 11729
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(图解:荷兰的Kapsalon)

So I''''ve got the opportunity to go visit almost anywhere I''''d like and I''''m thinking a lot about a few countries in Europe (Poland, Germany, and/or the Netherlands specifically.) Not sure if I can get to all 3 or just 1, but I try and search some things and it''''s very hard to find the info I''''d like to know.

我现在有个机会,可以去造访几乎任何我想去的地方,而我很想去几个欧洲国家(波兰、德国、特别是荷兰)。我不太确定我能不能去到这三国或只有其中一国,但我试着搜索过一些内容,不过很难找到我想要了解的信息。

What is food like in these countries? Or all of Europe? From what I''''ve read, food seems very different than the USA; both in resteraunts and in stores or supermarkets. Like the US I hear people are surprised by the sugary candy and junk food. Are there doritos, oreos, macaroni, white rice, etc, those things in stores? Sorry if this is dumb question or I sound dumb. I know very little about other places, but do want to learn.

这几国的食物是什么样的?整个欧洲又是怎样的?从我读到的来看,似乎和美国有很大的不同,无论是餐馆里还是商店/超市都是如此。比如说美国,我听说人们会惊讶于那里含糖量很高的糖果以及垃圾食品。商店里有没有立体脆、奥利奥、通心粉、白米等?如果这是个蠢问题,或者我听上去挺蠢的,那我表示抱歉。我对其他的地方知之甚少,但很想去了解。

I wonder if I will eat in Europe because I am a very picky eater lol.

我很想知道自己是否愿意在欧洲吃东西,因为我很个很挑嘴的人呵呵。

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1、Some general things.

(瑞典)大体上有几点:
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Europe is a big place with tons of food variety. Every country has their own cuisine so it is sort of hard generalizing some wildly different cuisines. It can even be hard generalizing cuisine from Poland, Germany and the Netherlands since there are plenty of regional variants.

欧洲很大,有着极为丰富的食物多样性。每个国家都有自己的烹饪风格,所以要概括那些差异极大的菜肴是有点困难的。甚至连概括波兰、德国和荷兰的菜肴都很困难,因为菜肴的地方变种太多了。
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Are you going to cook/stay at a place with a kitchen or are you going to eat out? I dont think you can buy American styled mac and cheese here, not ready made at least. Maybe you can make it yourself, but most likely it will be different from proper American mac and cheese. Same thing with Mexican/Tex Mex food, it can be hard to find things that are similar to the American version. It will most likely be a local version with varying degrees of authencity.

你是打算在一个配有厨房的地方烹饪/待着,还是去外面吃?我不觉得你能在我们这里买到美国风格的芝士通心粉,至少预制的是没有的。也许你可以自己做,但做出来的很可能会和像样的美式芝士通心粉有所不同。德州墨西哥菜也是一样,很难找到类似美国版本的。很可能会找到本地的版本,正宗程度参差不齐。

No free refills and doggy bags are uncommon. Plan accordingly.

没有免费续杯这回事,打包袋也不常见,请据此安排你的计划。

Waitstaff are usually pretty standoffish and the customer isnt always right. Plenty of Americans therefore find European waitstaff to be rude, when in reality it is cultural clash. Here it is considered polite to give each other space, and our labour laws are stronger than the ones in the US so verbally abusing servers are not okay.

服务员通常都很冷淡,而且并不总会迁就顾客。因此,有大量的美国人觉得欧洲的服务员很粗鲁,而在现实中,这只是文化冲突而已。在我们这里,给彼此留余地会被视为礼貌之举,而且我们这儿的劳动法要比美国的严厉,所以言语辱骂侍者是不可接受的。

Every country has a certain group of meat and potato guys, and you will find places to cater to that group. Good to know if you are a picky eater.

每个国家都会有嗜好肉和土豆的群体,你会找到满足这个群体口味的馆子。如果你是个挑嘴的人,那么这一点不可不知。

Tip if you get good service and like the waitstaff, and dont tip if you didnt like the service. People wont be irrationally angry at you for not tipping and you dont risk end up on r/talesfromyourserver.

如果你享受到了很好的服务,也喜欢这位侍者,可以给点小费,不喜欢的话就不用给。不给小费的话,人们也不会失去理性而对你发怒,而你也不用承担最终被侍者写进帖子里的风险。

Things to try.

可以一试的东西:
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Kebabs. Food of the Gods. Kapsalon is from the Netherlands and is a local variety that gets a lot of praise. I havent tried it myself though.
Try the local bread and cheese. Most likely better than what you experience in the US.
Poland is famous for their soups and bread. Worth a try at least.
Go to a large grocery store/supermarket in Germany and check out their sextion of chocolates. It is usually mindblowing.

烤肉串。这是众神的食物哦。Kapsalon是荷兰菜,也是当地衍生出的一个变种,得到了很多赞誉。但我自己还没有尝试过。
试试当地的面包和奶酪。很有可能比你在美国吃过的要好。
波兰以其汤和面包闻名。至少是值得一试的。
在德国时,去他们的大型食杂店/超市,然后去探查下巧克力区。通常都会给你留下深刻的印象。
(译注:Kapsalon是一道荷兰菜,以炸薯条为基底,上面码放土耳其烤肉卷或沙威玛烤肉,再用一层高达奶酪烤至融化,然后再盖上一层调味蔬菜色拉,见文首。通常配以大蒜酱)

I really liked Zubrowka with apple juice. Try it in Poland! Tastes a bit like apple pie with cinnamon.
Go to a bakery, all three countries has amazing pastries.
Germany and Poland are very famous for their sausages. If you like sausage you should try their sausages.

我真的很喜欢野牛草伏特加配苹果汁。在波兰时喝喝看吧!味道有点像加了肉桂的苹果派。
去面包房看看,这三个国家的甜点都很惊艳的。
德国和波兰的香肠特别有名。如果你喜欢香肠的话,你应该试试他们的。



(译注:野牛草伏特加以黑麦粒酿制而成,以波兰特有的野牛草来调味,每一瓶野牛草伏特加里面都有一根野牛草,酒呈现淡绿色)

2、Judging from american vlogs about living in Poland

(波兰)从美国的播客来判断荷兰的生活状况:

quality is generally better in europe
taste is more natural in europe
taste in US enhanced by a fuck ton by various additives

-欧洲的食物品质大体上更高
-欧洲的食物味道更自然
-美国食物的味道是由大量各式添加剂加持过的

it''''s hard to get good bread in US
there''''s way more variety in US
there''''s not as many ready food in stores, most people cook themselves or eat out
it''''s hard to get mexican food in poland

-在美国很难找到优质的面包
-在美国,食物类型多出很多
-欧洲商店里的熟食不如美国多,大部分人会自己做饭或是在外面吃

Are there doritos, oreos, macaroni, white rice, etc,
ofc, usually they are a bit more expensive or harder to get (eg. hershey''''s) though

“有没有立体脆、奥利奥、通心粉、白米等?”
当然有了,但通常它们会更贵一些,或者更难找到(比如好时巧克力)
(回复1)It’s not hard to get good bread in the US.
(印第安纳)想在美国找到优质的面包并不难。

3、I glanced through the other comments and didn''''t see anyone mention this yet.

(芬兰)我扫了一眼其他的评论,还没看到有人提到这一点:

We have pretty much everything you can find in the US, but don''''t expect to see familiar brands. Some for sure, like Coca cola, Pepsi, snickers etc. But Europe has their own brands, every country has their own brands too, even different regions within countries have their own brands.

你能在美国找到的东西,我们这里几乎都有,但别指望能看到你熟悉的品牌。有些是肯定有的,比如可口可乐、百事、士力架等等。但欧洲有自己的品牌,每个国家也都有它们自己的品牌,甚至国家内的不同地区都有自己的品牌。

So pretty similar to US, I would think.

所以我会觉得,欧洲和美国还是很相似的。

4、You listed some things that are available pretty much everywhere.

(奥地利)你列出来的东西,几乎在任何地方都能买到。

But even as picky eater, I recommend trying out some things that are "not" available everywhere. European countries have countless food that is unknown or hard to get outside of Europe. There''''s even plenty "local" food that can''''t be bought anymore if you only travel 200km further, or even less.

但哪怕作为挑嘴的人,我也会推荐你去尝试一些不是哪里都找得到的东西。欧洲国家有数不清的食物是鲜为人知的,或者很难在欧洲以外的地方找到。甚至有大量的“当地”食物,如果你再往前走200公里(有些时候甚至都不用走200公里)就再也买不到了。

If you''''re interested in the local cuisine, avoid McDonalds and ideally follow recommendations by locals if you know any. Or just ask the waiter of the restaurant where you are.

如果你对当地美食感兴趣,那就绕开麦当劳,理想的做法是听从当地人的推荐,如果你认识人的话。或者,直接询问你所在地的餐馆服务员。
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5、There is more than enough junk food here in every supermarket, but there are also more healthy options that are cheaper here than in the States. For example, our bread doesn''''t have sugar.

(荷兰)我们这儿的每家超市都会售卖超多垃圾食品,但更健康的选择也是有的,而且在这里的花费比在美国低。比如说,我们的面包不会放糖。

6、Doritos aka Tortilla Chips became very popular during last decade.
Oreos are pretty common. Macaroni are pretty common.
White Rice is most common type of rice here.

(斯洛伐克)立体脆,也就是炸玉米片,在过去的十年中变得非常流行了。
奥利奥是相当常见的。通心粉也是相当常见的。
白米是我们这里最常见的米。

If you love Pork, you will love Central Europe. We have so many types of Pork sausages, that you will go crazy lol. Second most popular meat is chicken, especially breasts. Other poultry like Duck or Turkey is common. Fish is kinda common(you know, no sea), we eat it usually during Christmas. Beef is rare and most people I know find lamb smelly and disgusting(I''''ve heard they love it in Central Slovakia though).

如果你喜欢猪肉,那你会爱上中欧的。我们这儿的猪肉肠,品种太多了,你会吃疯掉的呵呵。流行度排名第二的肉是鸡肉,尤其是鸡胸肉。其他禽肉比如鸭或火鸡也很常见。鱼还算是常见的(我们这儿不靠海,你懂的),我们通常会在圣诞节期间才会吃鱼。牛肉挺稀少的,而且我认识的大部分人都会觉得羊肉太膻,也很恶心(但我听说他们喜欢吃斯洛伐克中部地区的羊肉)。

Our Bread is great as well, so many kinds and so tasty.
When it comes to sweets, milk chocolate is the king.

我们的面包也很棒,品种特别多,也相当美味。
说到糖果,称王的是牛奶巧克力。

The most common supermarkets in Slovakia :
Lidl/Kaufland(Germany) - well known for low prices and decent food quality.
Billa(Austria) - average food quality, high prices and always have only 1 cashier ready...probably worst supermarket.
Tesco(UK) - decent food quality, average/high prices
Coop Jednota(Czech/Slovak) - high prices and good food quality.

在斯洛伐克最常见的超市有:
Lidl/Kaufland(德国):以价低质优出名。
Billa(奥地利):食品品质一般,价格高,而且通常只有一位收银员在收银…可能是最烂的超市了。
乐购(英国):食品品质优良,价格中高
Coop Jednota(捷克/斯洛伐克):价格高,食品品质也高。
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Well for like 5-7 €, in some restaurants(like Hoffer) you can get : Appetizer, Soup, Main Dish, Dessert and Drink(like coke/pepsi/kofola).
Also we do not deep fry everything, we use mainly oven.

好吧,在有些餐馆里(比如Hoffer),你能用5到7欧元买到的有:开胃菜、汤、主菜、甜点和饮料(比如可乐/百事/口福乐)。
而且任何食材我们都不会拿去油炸,我们主要用烤箱。
(译注:口福乐(Kofola)是一家捷克软饮料公司)

7、Quality wise food is way better than in the states. Everything is fresher and healthier. Don’t eat America food abroad, try new things

(波兰)从品质上看,欧洲的食物比美国好多了。一切都更新鲜,更健康。就别在美国以外的地方吃美国食物了,尝试下新鲜事物吧。

8、I remember my friend coming back from a trip to the US (specifically wherever the Grand Canyon is), and when I asked how it was, she said the bread was sweet.

我记得我有个朋友从赴美(特别是大峡谷所在地)旅行归来,然后我问她那里怎么样,她说那里的面包很甜。

Their normal sandwich loaves were sweet-tasting, like someone had put sugar in them.

他们常规的三明治面包是甜口的,似乎有人在里面加过糖。

She was so disgusted she said if she ever lived there she''''d have to make her own bread which I thought was hilarious.

对此她实在是觉得恶心,她说如果有一天要去那里生活,她一定会自制面包的,我感觉这也太可乐了吧。

That doesn''''t really answer the question, except to reinforce the stereotype that American food is more sweetened than other places, so take that with a pinch of salt.

这个故事并没有回答你的问题,只是强化了美国食物比其他地方更甜的刻板印象,所以对此你可以持保留态度。

9、In Poland - food is amazing. Go to a traditional eastern euro restaurant or a Zapiecek chain - it''''s al delicious. Get some pierogi.

波兰:食物那是很赞的。去找家传统的东欧馆子,或是Zapiecek连锁店,都很美味。点上波兰饺子。

In Germany - eating out is cheap, and good. You can go for German stuff like currywurst with some saurkraut or whatever, or go to any world cuisine restaurant.

德国:在外面吃饭是很便宜的,也好吃。你可以去找点德国特色菜吃吃,比如配上酸菜的德国咖喱肠或之类的东西,或者去任何一家外国美食餐厅也行。

In the Netherlands -they have a snack/street food culture. So all kinds of deep - fried delights. Bitterbalen, frikandelen, kaassoufles, etc. Good with beer. Fried fish is pretty good - like kibbeling. For dinner - you can try Dutch style stamppot rookworst, some gehaktbalen, or go to a Surinamese / Indonesian restaurant. The Suriname places have a crazy fusion of south american/african/indian/chinese cuisine. I think you can only find this sort of thing over there.

荷兰:他们是有零食/小吃文化的。所以会有各式各样的油炸类美食。荷兰炸肉丸、荷兰炸肉肠、奶酪面糊等等。擅长酿造啤酒。炸鱼也相当不错,比如炸鳕鱼块。正经吃饭的话,你可以尝试荷兰风的熏肠蔬菜土豆泥,弄点肉丸子,或者可以去苏里南或印尼(前荷兰殖民地)馆子。我觉得你在那里也只能找到这类东西。

10、If you want good food in the Netherlands, skip Amsterdam and go to Rotterdam instead. Don''''t be fooled by the restaurant reviews. Rotterdam has a foodie culture that causes similar quality restaurants to score consistently lower in Rotterdam than in any other city. Also plenty of different kinds of international restaurants, so you don''''t have to worry about not liking something. Portion sizes are much smaller here than in most other countries though.

(荷兰)如果你想在荷兰找到好吃的食物,那阿姆斯特丹就不必去了,去鹿特丹就好了。不要被餐馆点评糊弄了。鹿特丹是有美食文化的,这就导致:鹿特丹餐馆的得分,往往比其他任何城市里那些品质类似的餐馆低。而且还有大量不同类型的外国馆子,所以你不必担心吃不到称心的东西。不过,我们这里菜的份量要比其他大部分国家小得多。

11、The US allows all sort of freaky chemicals to be used in crops that are banned in the EU. It has a lot to do with the powerful lobby of multinational corporations over there, etc, etc.

美国会允许各式各样怪异的化学品用在农作物上,而它们在欧盟是被禁止使用的。这种情况,和那边跨国公司的强大游说团体等等有很大关系。

It also means that food is more expensive in the EU precisely because they don''''t allow transgenic crops and other nonsense.

这也意味着,在欧盟食物会更贵一些,而这纯是因为他们不会允许转基因作物和其他鬼东西的出现。

Long story short: food in Europe is likely to be healthier and possibly tastier than in the US

长话短说:欧洲的食物可能比美国更健康,可能也更美味。

12、Bear in mind that in Europe it will probably be a lot different from what you''''re used to because our food safety laws are far more comprehensive and let companies get away with less selling actual inedible shit to people than they do in North America.

(拉脱维亚)要记住,欧洲可能和你习惯的地方有很大的不同,因为我们的食品安全法更为全面,而且,那些公司能侥幸出去售卖事实上无法食用的垃圾的情况要比北美少。

13、Asking for food and the first things you name is doritos and oreos hhaahhaah

(西班牙)你来询问食物,结果一开口就是立体脆和奥利奥,啊哈哈哈

14、Best of the best: Poland: pierrogi Germany: Döner and Hackepeter (last one is strange for an american) Netherlans: Have the most amazing fast food... frikandel -

极品中的极品:
波兰:波兰饺子
德国:土耳其烤肉卷和Hackepeter(后者对美国人来说是挺奇怪的)
荷兰:去吃最惊艳的快餐荷兰肉肠吧



(译注:Hackepeter又叫做Mett,指没有夹杂培根或其他肉并且剁碎的猪肉糜,这种生猪肉糜通常佐以盐和黑胡椒直接下肚,德国人的最爱之一)

But if you go to the netherlands driving to germany is ez... no matter where you stay in nl...

但如果你去了荷兰,开车去德国也是很简单的,无论你待在荷兰的哪个部分…

15、In germany and poland It''''s good (if you find a nice place and not a tourist trap), but simple. Not many things to choose from and not even close to the variety you may find in France, Italy or spain. I''''m sure that if you go to the expensive restaurants you can find amazing things but i think they don''''t really take care about that part of their culture as much.

德国和波兰还不赖(如果你能找到一家不错的馆子,而不是什么旅游陷阱),但比较单一。没有太多菜色可供选择,根本比不上你能在法国、意大利或西班牙找到的丰富类型。我敢肯定,如果你去那些昂贵的馆子,还是可以吃到惊艳的东西的,但我不觉得他们真有(法意西)那么顾惜自己的文化。

In the netherlands it''''s just awful, and simple, and not tasty at all. I''''ve only been in Amsterdam so take your own conclusions but yeah.

荷兰的话那简直就太糟糕了,而且很贫乏,也完全不好吃。我只去过阿姆斯特丹,所以你自己去得出结论吧,不过嘛呵呵。

All I''''m saying is that in that part of europe, food is not as big as in other countries like spain or italy, in which food is life

我只想说,在欧洲的那些国家,食物的意义并不如其他国家那么重大,比如西班牙或意大利,这两国视食物为生命。

16、Picky eater who only eats junk food, gotta love America

嘴巴很刁的人,还只吃垃圾食品,会爱上美国的吧。

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