美俄战机孰优孰劣？
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S. Patrick Maiorca
It depends on the jet and how you define better. As a general rule U.S. fighters tend to be more high tech and they are the first to role out an any generation. The exception to this would be the first Generation of jets which the Germans rolled out. An example of the U.S. leading in technology would be in Vietnam, the main U.S. fighter was the F-4 Phantom II which was armed with short ranged heat seaking AIM-9 Sidewinders and the radar guided AIM-7 Sparrow missiles which could at least in theory shoot down a bomber 20 miles away.
The best plane the Communists had at the time was the MiG-21 which was limited to short-range AA-2/K-13. Over the skies of Vietnam the U.S. had a horrible kill to loss ratio. As the F-4 couldn’t tell friend from foe they were first to close into visual combat range and the AIM-7 misses 90% of the time because they were right on the edge of the missile’s minimum range as it took a second or so for the missile’s radar seeker to turn on . So the dogfights typically ended up with both sides using the IR missiles which had a hit rate of 25% and had to be fired directly from the targets 6. As the MiG-21 cost 1/2 of an F-4 the experts determined that if they had been fighting World War III that the U.S. would have lost. At the end of the Vietnam war the U.S. Navy introduced better training with Top Gun, and both the U.S Air Force worked on improved Sensors to tell friend and foe and a new version of the AIM-7 Sparrow came out that was designed to arm itself a lot sooner. Armed with the new weapons and tactics the U.S. navy and Air Force got a 9 to 1 kill rate at the end of the Vietnam war.
这取决于何种战机以及你如何定义“更好”这个概念。
一般来说，美国的战斗机往往倾向于使用高科技，他们是任何一代战机中最先使用高科技的，唯一的例外是德国人推出的第一代喷气战机，美国在技术上领先的一个例子是越南战争，主要的美国战斗机是F-4 "鬼怪 "II，它装备了短程热感应AIM-9 响尾蛇导弹 和雷达制导的AIM-7 "麻雀 "导弹，至少在理论上可以击落20英里外的轰炸机。
..党当时最好的飞机是米格-21，它装备的导弹仅限于短程的AA-2/K-13，在越南的上空，美国的杀伤比非常恐怖，由于 F-4无法分辨敌友，它们首先进入可视作战范围，AIM-7有90% 的失误是因为它们正好处于导弹最小射程的边缘，导弹的雷达导引头需要一秒左右的时间才能打开，所以狗斗一般最后以双方使用红外导弹告终，而红外导弹的命中率只有25%，必须直接对准目标发射，由于米格-21的成本只有F-4的1/2，专家们认为，如果打第三次世界大战，美国会输。
越南战争结束时，美国海军引进了更好的训练和先进武器，美国空军也都在研究改进的传感器来分辨敌友，新版的AIM-7麻雀也出来了，它的设计是为了更快地武装自己，用新的武器和战术武装起来的美国海军和空军在越南战争结束时获得了9比1的杀伤率。
It depends on the jet and how you define better. As a general rule U.S. fighters tend to be more high tech and they are the first to role out an any generation. The exception to this would be the first Generation of jets which the Germans rolled out. An example of the U.S. leading in technology would be in Vietnam, the main U.S. fighter was the F-4 Phantom II which was armed with short ranged heat seaking AIM-9 Sidewinders and the radar guided AIM-7 Sparrow missiles which could at least in theory shoot down a bomber 20 miles away.
The best plane the Communists had at the time was the MiG-21 which was limited to short-range AA-2/K-13. Over the skies of Vietnam the U.S. had a horrible kill to loss ratio. As the F-4 couldn’t tell friend from foe they were first to close into visual combat range and the AIM-7 misses 90% of the time because they were right on the edge of the missile’s minimum range as it took a second or so for the missile’s radar seeker to turn on . So the dogfights typically ended up with both sides using the IR missiles which had a hit rate of 25% and had to be fired directly from the targets 6. As the MiG-21 cost 1/2 of an F-4 the experts determined that if they had been fighting World War III that the U.S. would have lost. At the end of the Vietnam war the U.S. Navy introduced better training with Top Gun, and both the U.S Air Force worked on improved Sensors to tell friend and foe and a new version of the AIM-7 Sparrow came out that was designed to arm itself a lot sooner. Armed with the new weapons and tactics the U.S. navy and Air Force got a 9 to 1 kill rate at the end of the Vietnam war.
这取决于何种战机以及你如何定义“更好”这个概念。
一般来说，美国的战斗机往往倾向于使用高科技，他们是任何一代战机中最先使用高科技的，唯一的例外是德国人推出的第一代喷气战机，美国在技术上领先的一个例子是越南战争，主要的美国战斗机是F-4 "鬼怪 "II，它装备了短程热感应AIM-9 响尾蛇导弹 和雷达制导的AIM-7 "麻雀 "导弹，至少在理论上可以击落20英里外的轰炸机。
..党当时最好的飞机是米格-21，它装备的导弹仅限于短程的AA-2/K-13，在越南的上空，美国的杀伤比非常恐怖，由于 F-4无法分辨敌友，它们首先进入可视作战范围，AIM-7有90% 的失误是因为它们正好处于导弹最小射程的边缘，导弹的雷达导引头需要一秒左右的时间才能打开，所以狗斗一般最后以双方使用红外导弹告终，而红外导弹的命中率只有25%，必须直接对准目标发射，由于米格-21的成本只有F-4的1/2，专家们认为，如果打第三次世界大战，美国会输。
越南战争结束时，美国海军引进了更好的训练和先进武器，美国空军也都在研究改进的传感器来分辨敌友，新版的AIM-7麻雀也出来了，它的设计是为了更快地武装自己，用新的武器和战术武装起来的美国海军和空军在越南战争结束时获得了9比1的杀伤率。
In my view both the F-4 and MiG-21 were good planes- if you wanted something that could patrol large swaths of sky and drop a load of bombs you wanted the F-4 , if you wanted a little nimble fighter which was cheap to buy you wanted the MiG-21.
After Vietnam the differnces weren’t that big with the 4th generation.
The U.S. and then Soviet Military went with a high low mix on the high end
the American planes were deigned to deliver guided air to ground weapons while the MiG-29 was air to air- and could carry ungided bombs and rockets for ground attack.
The F-16 and F-18 are more expensive at least 60% more but a multirole aircraft with good night vision systems can save you money in the long run as it might be possible to possible to have one type which will cover most missions.
Then in the Modern era between the 4th and 5th generations- the USAF has the f-22 which may be the best fighter flying the best fighter the Russians are flying is a supped up Su-27 the Su-35
which might be able to beat up on the F-15 but when faced with the F-22 is raptor bait.
在我看来，F-4和米格-21都是很好的飞机——如果你想要一种能够巡逻大片天空并投下炸弹的战机，你需要的是F-4，如果你想要的是一种小巧灵活的廉价战斗机，那么你需要的是米格 -21。
越战后，第四代战机的差别并不大。
美军和苏联军方在高端机型上采用了高低搭配的方式。
美国的飞机被设计为提供制导的空对地武器，而米格-29是空对空，可以携带非制导炸弹和火箭弹进行地面攻击。
F-16和F-18更贵，至少贵了60%，但从长远来看，具有良好夜视系统的多用途飞机可以为你省钱，因为可能有一种类型的飞机可以覆盖大多数任务。
然后在第四代和现代的第五代之间，美国空军有F-22，这可能是最好的战斗机，俄罗斯人最好的战斗机是苏-27和苏-35，苏35或许能打赢F-15，但面对F-22时，就是猛禽的口中食。
After Vietnam the differnces weren’t that big with the 4th generation.
The U.S. and then Soviet Military went with a high low mix on the high end
the American planes were deigned to deliver guided air to ground weapons while the MiG-29 was air to air- and could carry ungided bombs and rockets for ground attack.
The F-16 and F-18 are more expensive at least 60% more but a multirole aircraft with good night vision systems can save you money in the long run as it might be possible to possible to have one type which will cover most missions.
Then in the Modern era between the 4th and 5th generations- the USAF has the f-22 which may be the best fighter flying the best fighter the Russians are flying is a supped up Su-27 the Su-35
which might be able to beat up on the F-15 but when faced with the F-22 is raptor bait.
在我看来，F-4和米格-21都是很好的飞机——如果你想要一种能够巡逻大片天空并投下炸弹的战机，你需要的是F-4，如果你想要的是一种小巧灵活的廉价战斗机，那么你需要的是米格 -21。
越战后，第四代战机的差别并不大。
美军和苏联军方在高端机型上采用了高低搭配的方式。
美国的飞机被设计为提供制导的空对地武器，而米格-29是空对空，可以携带非制导炸弹和火箭弹进行地面攻击。
F-16和F-18更贵，至少贵了60%，但从长远来看，具有良好夜视系统的多用途飞机可以为你省钱，因为可能有一种类型的飞机可以覆盖大多数任务。
然后在第四代和现代的第五代之间，美国空军有F-22，这可能是最好的战斗机，俄罗斯人最好的战斗机是苏-27和苏-35，苏35或许能打赢F-15，但面对F-22时，就是猛禽的口中食。
Thomas Hawk
It depends on the fighter but overall, no. American fighters have been historically more advanced than Russian fighters although for the most part, that’s not the case anymore. The Su-27 Flanker was every bit the equal of the F-15 overall and the MiG-29 Fulcrum was every bit the equal of the F-16 Falcon and F/A-18 Hornet. The American planes had better radar and avionics while the Russian planes had better performance and agility, with a defiinte advantage being their helmet-mounted missile targeting sights. The F-16V Viper and the MiG-35 Super Fulcrum are again, overall equal with the American jet having better radar and avionics while the Russian jet has better performance and agility. The American plane has better reliability while the Russian plane has the better price point. The tables seem to be turning however as the American F/A-18E/F Super Hornet would be toast against a modern MiG-35 Super Fulcrum. This is because the Super Hornet is not primarily a fighter like the Hornet was, but a strike aircraft that would be vulnerable to a specialised fighter jet like the MiG-35. The US also has no real answer to the Su-35 Super Flanker because the Su-27’s chief rival, the F-15, hasn’t been upgraded to the same degree that the Flanker has been. The Super Flanker is superior to the Eagle in virtually all respects because, let’s face it, it’s decades newer than the Eagle (which was originally made to counter the now-ancient MiG-25 Foxbat).
这取决于何种战机，但总的来说，俄罗斯战机并不比美国战机好。
美国战斗机在历史上一直比俄罗斯战斗机更先进，尽管在大多数情况下，情况已经不是这样了，苏-27 "侧卫 "总体上与F-15相当，米格-29 "支点 "战斗机与F-16 "隼 "和F/A-18 "大黄蜂 "相当。
美国战机雷达和航空电子设备更好，而俄罗斯飞机的性能和灵活性更优，其中一个不足之处是他们的头盔式导弹瞄具，F-16V 蝮蛇战机和米格 -35超级支点战机再次总体上相当，美国战机雷达和航空电子设备更好，而俄罗斯飞机的性能和灵活性更优。
美国飞机可靠性更好，而俄罗斯战机造价更优，然而，情况似乎发生了变化，因为美国的F/A-18E/F "超级大黄蜂 "在对抗中完虐米格-35 ，这是因为超级大黄蜂是一种攻击型战机，米格 -35在这种的专业战斗机面前很脆弱。
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It depends on the fighter but overall, no. American fighters have been historically more advanced than Russian fighters although for the most part, that’s not the case anymore. The Su-27 Flanker was every bit the equal of the F-15 overall and the MiG-29 Fulcrum was every bit the equal of the F-16 Falcon and F/A-18 Hornet. The American planes had better radar and avionics while the Russian planes had better performance and agility, with a defiinte advantage being their helmet-mounted missile targeting sights. The F-16V Viper and the MiG-35 Super Fulcrum are again, overall equal with the American jet having better radar and avionics while the Russian jet has better performance and agility. The American plane has better reliability while the Russian plane has the better price point. The tables seem to be turning however as the American F/A-18E/F Super Hornet would be toast against a modern MiG-35 Super Fulcrum. This is because the Super Hornet is not primarily a fighter like the Hornet was, but a strike aircraft that would be vulnerable to a specialised fighter jet like the MiG-35. The US also has no real answer to the Su-35 Super Flanker because the Su-27’s chief rival, the F-15, hasn’t been upgraded to the same degree that the Flanker has been. The Super Flanker is superior to the Eagle in virtually all respects because, let’s face it, it’s decades newer than the Eagle (which was originally made to counter the now-ancient MiG-25 Foxbat).
这取决于何种战机，但总的来说，俄罗斯战机并不比美国战机好。
美国战斗机在历史上一直比俄罗斯战斗机更先进，尽管在大多数情况下，情况已经不是这样了，苏-27 "侧卫 "总体上与F-15相当，米格-29 "支点 "战斗机与F-16 "隼 "和F/A-18 "大黄蜂 "相当。
美国战机雷达和航空电子设备更好，而俄罗斯飞机的性能和灵活性更优，其中一个不足之处是他们的头盔式导弹瞄具，F-16V 蝮蛇战机和米格 -35超级支点战机再次总体上相当，美国战机雷达和航空电子设备更好，而俄罗斯飞机的性能和灵活性更优。
美国飞机可靠性更好，而俄罗斯战机造价更优，然而，情况似乎发生了变化，因为美国的F/A-18E/F "超级大黄蜂 "在对抗中完虐米格-35 ，这是因为超级大黄蜂是一种攻击型战机，米格 -35在这种的专业战斗机面前很脆弱。
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Some would say that the F-22 is the counter to the Su-35 but that idea doesn’t really hold water because the F-22 is not, and could never really be, a front-line fighter. It’s too expensive to operate ($60,000USD per flight hour) and requires far too many man-hours of maintenance (30) per hour of flight to be useful as a main-line warplane. This is why the F-22 has never seen combat while the F-15, F-16 and F/A-18 have. It’s just too damn expensive to use. If used as a front-line warplane, it would cause more financial damage to the USA than a fleet of Russian Tu-95 heavy bombers.
Fortuantely for the USA, the sheer number of F-15 and F-16 planes in existence far outweighs any advantage that the Su-35 would hold against them. The easiest way to overcome an enemy in an air war is to simply overwhelm them with numbers and the USAF has an order of magnitude more aircraft than anyone else on Earth. I only hope that the USAF’s power doesn’t become another victim of the beyonf-stupid “F”-35 JSF program.
但对于“超级侧卫”苏35，美军方面也没有明确的答案，因为苏 27的主要竞争对手 F-15还没有升级到与侧卫相同的级别，超级侧卫苏35几乎所有方面都优于F-15 "鹰 "，因为它比 "鹰 "新了几十年（"鹰 "最初是为了对抗米格-25 "狐蝠 "而制造的）。
有些人会说 F-22是苏 -35的对手，但这个想法并不成立，因为 F-22不是，也永远不可能成为一线战斗机。
它的操作成本太高( 每飞行小时60,000美元) ，每飞行小时需要太多的维护工时(30) ，不能作为主线战机使用，这就是为什么 F22从未经历过战斗，而 F-15、 F-16和 F/A-18却经历过，实在是太他妈贵了啊，用不起，如果作为主线战机使用，它给美国造成的经济损失将超过俄罗斯图95重型轰炸机队。
对美国来说，仅仅是现有的 F-15和 F-16战机的数量就远远盖过了苏 -35对它们的任何优势，在空战中战胜敌人最简单的方法就是数量压倒他们，而美国空军拥有的飞机比地球上其他任何国家都多，我只希望美国空军不要成为另一个例子——愚蠢的“ F”-35 JSF 计划的受害者。
Fortuantely for the USA, the sheer number of F-15 and F-16 planes in existence far outweighs any advantage that the Su-35 would hold against them. The easiest way to overcome an enemy in an air war is to simply overwhelm them with numbers and the USAF has an order of magnitude more aircraft than anyone else on Earth. I only hope that the USAF’s power doesn’t become another victim of the beyonf-stupid “F”-35 JSF program.
但对于“超级侧卫”苏35，美军方面也没有明确的答案，因为苏 27的主要竞争对手 F-15还没有升级到与侧卫相同的级别，超级侧卫苏35几乎所有方面都优于F-15 "鹰 "，因为它比 "鹰 "新了几十年（"鹰 "最初是为了对抗米格-25 "狐蝠 "而制造的）。
有些人会说 F-22是苏 -35的对手，但这个想法并不成立，因为 F-22不是，也永远不可能成为一线战斗机。
它的操作成本太高( 每飞行小时60,000美元) ，每飞行小时需要太多的维护工时(30) ，不能作为主线战机使用，这就是为什么 F22从未经历过战斗，而 F-15、 F-16和 F/A-18却经历过，实在是太他妈贵了啊，用不起，如果作为主线战机使用，它给美国造成的经济损失将超过俄罗斯图95重型轰炸机队。
对美国来说，仅仅是现有的 F-15和 F-16战机的数量就远远盖过了苏 -35对它们的任何优势，在空战中战胜敌人最简单的方法就是数量压倒他们，而美国空军拥有的飞机比地球上其他任何国家都多，我只希望美国空军不要成为另一个例子——愚蠢的“ F”-35 JSF 计划的受害者。
Robin Sparkes
Some are better in areas and likewise the opposite, but the two sides designed aircraft around massively different concepts. Well start with Soviet/Russian jets.
Soviet, (and currently Russian) fighter jets are incredibly recognisable; solid, sturdy and overall rugged. Early jets such as the MiG 15, 17, 19 & 21 and Sukhoi 17, 19, 22 etc were simply designed and mass- produced; their construction based solely around one hugely powerful engine as a means to deliver point-and- shoot missiles, bombs and usually a ~20mm machinegun. Later designs, such as the MiG 23, 25, 29, 31 and the Su- 27 became slightly more streamlined, being, (with the exception of the MiG23) based around twin engines and possessing a rudimentary Radar system.
Throughout the Cold War there were many instances of Soviet & American aircraft going head to head and with a varying degree of success for each side, although admittedly some American aircraft such as the F-86 Sabre, F4- Phantom, F-15 Eagle and F-16 Falcon, to name just a few more than often had the upper hand. The reasons for this disparity isnt entirely to be blamed on the aircraft, (in my opinion it was often the poorly trained crews of client states compared to the highly trained American pilots- Soviet crews seldom fought directly apart from Korea). This is for a different question for another day so ill leave that one there.
有些战机在某些方面做得更好，有些则相反，不过双方战机的设计概念大相径庭。
恩，我们先从苏联/俄罗斯战机开始。
苏联的 (俄罗斯 ) 战斗机的辨识度非常高，坚固，皮实，整体粗犷。
早期的战机，如米格15、17、19、21和苏17、19、22等都是简单设计和批量生产的，其结构方面往往基于一个强大的发动机，作为装载定点发射导弹、炸弹和使用20毫米机炮的手段，后来的设计，如米格23,25,29,31和苏 -27变得更加流线型( 米格23除外)，基于双引擎，装备基本的雷达系统。
在整个冷战期间，苏联战机和美国战机有过多次正面交锋，双方都取得了不同程度的胜利，尽管如此，通常美国战机占据上风的情况更多，比如 F-86军刀、 F4-鬼怪、 F-15鹰式战斗机和 F-16隼式战斗机，造成这种差异的原因不能完全归咎于飞机 ( 我认为，与训练有素的美国飞行员相比，美国附庸国飞行员往往训练不足——苏联飞行员除了朝鲜战争之外很少直接作战)，当然，这是另一个问题了，改日再谈，这里就不说了。
Some are better in areas and likewise the opposite, but the two sides designed aircraft around massively different concepts. Well start with Soviet/Russian jets.
Soviet, (and currently Russian) fighter jets are incredibly recognisable; solid, sturdy and overall rugged. Early jets such as the MiG 15, 17, 19 & 21 and Sukhoi 17, 19, 22 etc were simply designed and mass- produced; their construction based solely around one hugely powerful engine as a means to deliver point-and- shoot missiles, bombs and usually a ~20mm machinegun. Later designs, such as the MiG 23, 25, 29, 31 and the Su- 27 became slightly more streamlined, being, (with the exception of the MiG23) based around twin engines and possessing a rudimentary Radar system.
Throughout the Cold War there were many instances of Soviet & American aircraft going head to head and with a varying degree of success for each side, although admittedly some American aircraft such as the F-86 Sabre, F4- Phantom, F-15 Eagle and F-16 Falcon, to name just a few more than often had the upper hand. The reasons for this disparity isnt entirely to be blamed on the aircraft, (in my opinion it was often the poorly trained crews of client states compared to the highly trained American pilots- Soviet crews seldom fought directly apart from Korea). This is for a different question for another day so ill leave that one there.
有些战机在某些方面做得更好，有些则相反，不过双方战机的设计概念大相径庭。
恩，我们先从苏联/俄罗斯战机开始。
苏联的 (俄罗斯 ) 战斗机的辨识度非常高，坚固，皮实，整体粗犷。
早期的战机，如米格15、17、19、21和苏17、19、22等都是简单设计和批量生产的，其结构方面往往基于一个强大的发动机，作为装载定点发射导弹、炸弹和使用20毫米机炮的手段，后来的设计，如米格23,25,29,31和苏 -27变得更加流线型( 米格23除外)，基于双引擎，装备基本的雷达系统。
在整个冷战期间，苏联战机和美国战机有过多次正面交锋，双方都取得了不同程度的胜利，尽管如此，通常美国战机占据上风的情况更多，比如 F-86军刀、 F4-鬼怪、 F-15鹰式战斗机和 F-16隼式战斗机，造成这种差异的原因不能完全归咎于飞机 ( 我认为，与训练有素的美国飞行员相比，美国附庸国飞行员往往训练不足——苏联飞行员除了朝鲜战争之外很少直接作战)，当然，这是另一个问题了，改日再谈，这里就不说了。
Soviet aircraft were designed with the idea that theyd be used to fight a defensive war, whereby airbases and airstrips would be destroyed or damaged and ground controllers potentially knocked out due to post- nuclear strike electromagnetic interference. Their aircraft had incredibly sturdy landing gear to handle impromptu, makeshift runways such as fields and also engines that could handle potential debris being sucked into them and thus a high threshold of damage. Soviet fighters were pretty basic inside; lots of switches, knobs and buttons and were also undigitised, (post- nuclear electromagnetic interference would heavily impact digital consoles). They were also very dependent on the pilot for control via the throttle, unlike American jets that really gave the pilot some assistance which ultimately fatigued Soviet pilots quicker than their American counterparts. As a sidenote, Soviet pilots did not receive anywhere near the flying hours nor training intensity of American pilots-especially after Vietnam (e.g. TopGun) which would have been massively detrimental during a conflict.
苏联飞机的设计理念是用来进行一场防御性战争，在这类战争中，空军基地和飞机跑道将被摧毁或损坏，地面控制员可能会因为核打击而遭受电磁干扰，因此他们的飞机拥有令人难以置信的坚固起落架，可以在临时搭建的跑道起降，比如田野，还有发动机，可以应对潜在的碎片被吸入其中，因此可以承受很高的破坏阈值。
苏联战斗机的内部非常简陋，有许多开关、旋钮和按钮，而且还是未数字化的 ( 后核武器时代的电磁干扰将严重影响数字控制台)。他们也非常依赖飞行员通过油门控制飞机，不像美国战机机的内部设计，会给飞行员带来一定帮助，苏联飞行员比他们的美国同行更容易疲劳。
顺便说一下，苏联飞行员飞行时间或训练强度远不及美国飞行员——尤其是在越南战争之后 ，这在冲突期间将是非常不利的。
苏联飞机的设计理念是用来进行一场防御性战争，在这类战争中，空军基地和飞机跑道将被摧毁或损坏，地面控制员可能会因为核打击而遭受电磁干扰，因此他们的飞机拥有令人难以置信的坚固起落架，可以在临时搭建的跑道起降，比如田野，还有发动机，可以应对潜在的碎片被吸入其中，因此可以承受很高的破坏阈值。
苏联战斗机的内部非常简陋，有许多开关、旋钮和按钮，而且还是未数字化的 ( 后核武器时代的电磁干扰将严重影响数字控制台)。他们也非常依赖飞行员通过油门控制飞机，不像美国战机机的内部设计，会给飞行员带来一定帮助，苏联飞行员比他们的美国同行更容易疲劳。
顺便说一下，苏联飞行员飞行时间或训练强度远不及美国飞行员——尤其是在越南战争之后 ，这在冲突期间将是非常不利的。
Soviet jets were and still are amazingly maneauvreable, capable of amazing feats of acrobatics that American aircraft couldnt match- but American jets werent designed to do so. The Soviets held much belief in ‘dogfighting’, which in the early to mid 1960s was still commonplace as missiles such as the US Aim-7 Sparrow were fantastically unreliable; NVA MiG-19s & MiG-21s proved their worth in Vietnam against F-105 Thunderstreaks and F-4 Phantoms due to the dogfighting advantage they had.
The advent of BVR, (Beyond Visual Range) missiles such as the AIM-9 Sidewinder- due to advances in radar and IR technology-was a huge game changer that basically made dogfighting redundant-though not entirely. Better missiles that could hit enemies out of sight provoked better ECM-(Electronic Countermeasures) which in some ways negated BVR technology and maintained the need for maneauvreable dogfighters. The late Su-27 family is perhaps the greatest dogfighter in modern history, and yet is armed with excellent BVR missiles and radar systems, so there is still a prevailing requirement within modern Russia to maintain both sides of the argument.
苏联喷气机过去和现在都有着令人惊异的机动性，能够做出美国战机无法比拟的惊人的杂技壮举——但美国战机的设计并非如此。苏联人相信 "狗斗"，在20世纪60年代早期到中期，狗斗还是很常见的，因为美国的AIM-7 "麻雀 "导弹非常不可靠，北越的米格-19和米格-21在对F-105 “雷公"和F-4 "鬼怪 "的战斗中证明了它们的价值，因为它们有狗斗的优势。
由于雷达和红外技术的进步，超视距导弹如 AIM-9响尾蛇导弹的出现，游戏规则大大改变，基本上使得狗斗变得多余——虽然不是完全多余。
更好的导弹能够在视线之外打击敌人，这就激发了更好的 ECM (电子对抗措施 ) ，而这在某种程度上否定了超视距技术，并且保持了单人侦察空中格斗机的需求。
晚期的苏27家族可能是现代历史上最伟大的空中格斗机，但它装备了出色的超视距导弹和雷达系统，所以现代俄罗斯内部仍然普遍要求保持两面性。
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The advent of BVR, (Beyond Visual Range) missiles such as the AIM-9 Sidewinder- due to advances in radar and IR technology-was a huge game changer that basically made dogfighting redundant-though not entirely. Better missiles that could hit enemies out of sight provoked better ECM-(Electronic Countermeasures) which in some ways negated BVR technology and maintained the need for maneauvreable dogfighters. The late Su-27 family is perhaps the greatest dogfighter in modern history, and yet is armed with excellent BVR missiles and radar systems, so there is still a prevailing requirement within modern Russia to maintain both sides of the argument.
苏联喷气机过去和现在都有着令人惊异的机动性，能够做出美国战机无法比拟的惊人的杂技壮举——但美国战机的设计并非如此。苏联人相信 "狗斗"，在20世纪60年代早期到中期，狗斗还是很常见的，因为美国的AIM-7 "麻雀 "导弹非常不可靠，北越的米格-19和米格-21在对F-105 “雷公"和F-4 "鬼怪 "的战斗中证明了它们的价值，因为它们有狗斗的优势。
由于雷达和红外技术的进步，超视距导弹如 AIM-9响尾蛇导弹的出现，游戏规则大大改变，基本上使得狗斗变得多余——虽然不是完全多余。
更好的导弹能够在视线之外打击敌人，这就激发了更好的 ECM (电子对抗措施 ) ，而这在某种程度上否定了超视距技术，并且保持了单人侦察空中格斗机的需求。
晚期的苏27家族可能是现代历史上最伟大的空中格斗机，但它装备了出色的超视距导弹和雷达系统，所以现代俄罗斯内部仍然普遍要求保持两面性。
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The MiG- 25 was another example of prevailing Soviet doctrine: Speed. Soviet jets have a trend of being at the far end of fast, and the MiG25, and its later development the MiG31, were designed to be able to intercept and lock on to any aircraft; the latter even managed to intercept and engage missile lock-ons upon the American SR-71 ‘Blackbird’ spy aircraft-the fastest known aircraft ever built. The MiG25 however, due to the heat generated through its speed, was constructed with heavy titanium and this negated (ironically) its speed and maneouvrability. These arent strictly ‘fighters’ but they are demonstrative of Soviet design requirements of the age.
Soviet aircraft werent designed to fly with much in the way of battlefield ‘awareness’. They relied on ground controllers to ‘handle’ each individual aircraft and guide pilots towards obxtives; pilots couldnt really communicate with each other, and could easily get lost without ground support issuing coordinates. When western pilots gained access to East German MiG29s they were shocked that their pilots still needed to use (out of date) paper maps to occasionally find their bearings. Again, this lack of interoperability between pilots meant that, after a nuclear war and the presence of electronic interference Soviet pilots possessed a useful, array of ‘manual’ skills. Obviously, the main reason for this lack of advanced avionics and intensive pilot workload was due to the Soviet desire for mass production- and advanced technology required a slow and careful approach to manufacture, and the Soviets couldnt have both. That said, it was also symptomatic of the ever declining prence of Soviet technological breakthroughs.
米格-25是苏联主流理论的另一个例子：速度。苏联战机有一种走在快速飞行最前端的趋势，而米格25及其后来的发展型米格31的设计也是为了能够拦截和锁定任何飞机，后者甚至成功地对美国SR-71黑鸟间谍机进行了拦截和导弹锁定——这是有史以来已知最快的飞机，然而米格25由于其速度所产生的热量，采用了厚重的钛合金，这又降低了其速度和机动性，这些都不是严格意义上的 "战斗机"，但它们是苏联时代其设计要求的体现。
苏联飞机在设计上没有太多的战场“意识”，他们依靠地面控制人员“操控”每架飞机，并引导飞行员朝目标飞行，飞行员之间无法真正地交流，如果没有地面支援人员发布坐标，他们很容易迷路。
西方飞行员曾获准使用东德的米格29战机，让他们感到震惊的是，其飞行员仍然偶尔需要使用 ( 过时的 ) 纸质地图来找到他们的方位，另外，飞行员之间缺乏互操作性意味着，在核战争和电子干扰之后，苏联飞行员拥有一系列有效的、"手动 "技能。
很明显，缺乏先进的航空电子设备和飞行员工作量繁重的主要原因是苏联渴望大规模生产，而先进的技术需要缓慢而谨慎的制造方法，苏联不可能两者兼得，也就是说，这也是苏联技术突破不断减少的原因。
Soviet aircraft werent designed to fly with much in the way of battlefield ‘awareness’. They relied on ground controllers to ‘handle’ each individual aircraft and guide pilots towards obxtives; pilots couldnt really communicate with each other, and could easily get lost without ground support issuing coordinates. When western pilots gained access to East German MiG29s they were shocked that their pilots still needed to use (out of date) paper maps to occasionally find their bearings. Again, this lack of interoperability between pilots meant that, after a nuclear war and the presence of electronic interference Soviet pilots possessed a useful, array of ‘manual’ skills. Obviously, the main reason for this lack of advanced avionics and intensive pilot workload was due to the Soviet desire for mass production- and advanced technology required a slow and careful approach to manufacture, and the Soviets couldnt have both. That said, it was also symptomatic of the ever declining prence of Soviet technological breakthroughs.
米格-25是苏联主流理论的另一个例子：速度。苏联战机有一种走在快速飞行最前端的趋势，而米格25及其后来的发展型米格31的设计也是为了能够拦截和锁定任何飞机，后者甚至成功地对美国SR-71黑鸟间谍机进行了拦截和导弹锁定——这是有史以来已知最快的飞机，然而米格25由于其速度所产生的热量，采用了厚重的钛合金，这又降低了其速度和机动性，这些都不是严格意义上的 "战斗机"，但它们是苏联时代其设计要求的体现。
苏联飞机在设计上没有太多的战场“意识”，他们依靠地面控制人员“操控”每架飞机，并引导飞行员朝目标飞行，飞行员之间无法真正地交流，如果没有地面支援人员发布坐标，他们很容易迷路。
西方飞行员曾获准使用东德的米格29战机，让他们感到震惊的是，其飞行员仍然偶尔需要使用 ( 过时的 ) 纸质地图来找到他们的方位，另外，飞行员之间缺乏互操作性意味着，在核战争和电子干扰之后，苏联飞行员拥有一系列有效的、"手动 "技能。
很明显，缺乏先进的航空电子设备和飞行员工作量繁重的主要原因是苏联渴望大规模生产，而先进的技术需要缓慢而谨慎的制造方法，苏联不可能两者兼得，也就是说，这也是苏联技术突破不断减少的原因。
I could keep rhyming off examples of this but I have to end it sometime. Overall, American jets tended to be more advanced than their Soviet counterparts, with superior pilots, radar, avionics and missile systems. That said, the Soviets possessed superior airfrxs and had many missile systems that were the superior of their American counterparts. Soviet jet fighters were designed to operate from a position of defence, in the event of an invasion or post-nuclear environment that required heavy-duty machines, whereas their American opponents were designed around always possessing aerial superiority and a battlefield upper hand alongside peerless infrastructure like aircraft carriers. Soviet jets outnumbered American jets and so they aimed to swarm the enemy, which itself is an effective strategy. Close-up, Soviet jets could easily out-maneouuvre the enemy and utilise cannon fire to mete out fury. The Soviets also possessed advanced HUD, (Heads Up Display) targeting systems and helmet-mounted systems, which allowed the pilot to lock-on and fire missiles at an enemy that wasnt directly in front of it, which in itself was a hugely feared and admired system by American pilots.
我可以继续列举 这样的例子，总的来说，美国战机比苏联战飞机更先进，拥有出色的飞行员、更强大的雷达、航空电子设备，而苏联战机拥有优越的机身和导弹系统，这些都优于他们的美国对手。
苏联的战斗机被设计成从防御的立场出发，在入侵或核战环境中需要重型机械的情况下作战，而其美国对手的战机则被设计成在拥有空中优势和战场上的优势情况下，与航空母舰等无与伦比的战争机器并驾齐驱。
苏联战机的数量超过了美国战机，所以他们的目标是对敌人进行群殴，这本身就是一种有效的策略，近距离，苏联战机可以轻易地击退敌人，并利用炮火来施以怒火，苏联还拥有先进的平视显示器 ( 抬头显示器 ) 瞄准系统和头盔系统，这使得飞行员可以锁定并向敌人发射导弹，而敌人并不需要在其正前方，这种系统本身就是美国飞行员非常恐惧和钦佩的。
我可以继续列举 这样的例子，总的来说，美国战机比苏联战飞机更先进，拥有出色的飞行员、更强大的雷达、航空电子设备，而苏联战机拥有优越的机身和导弹系统，这些都优于他们的美国对手。
苏联的战斗机被设计成从防御的立场出发，在入侵或核战环境中需要重型机械的情况下作战，而其美国对手的战机则被设计成在拥有空中优势和战场上的优势情况下，与航空母舰等无与伦比的战争机器并驾齐驱。
苏联战机的数量超过了美国战机，所以他们的目标是对敌人进行群殴，这本身就是一种有效的策略，近距离，苏联战机可以轻易地击退敌人，并利用炮火来施以怒火，苏联还拥有先进的平视显示器 ( 抬头显示器 ) 瞄准系统和头盔系统，这使得飞行员可以锁定并向敌人发射导弹，而敌人并不需要在其正前方，这种系统本身就是美国飞行员非常恐惧和钦佩的。
The modern Russian Federation has begun to modernise its fleets of aircraft-digitisation, advanced radar and avionics, better weapons systems, battlefield awareness and aerial coordination, aerial refuelling and vastly superior strategies have begun to become the norm. The problem with Soviet doctrine was that for them to have the advantage, the Soviet unx or Warsaw Pact would need to be invaded and/or levelled with nuclear warheads, which kind of defeats the obxt of maintaining a deterrent. Offence is the best means of defence or so they say, and the Russians have taken well to this notion. The Su57 is a good example of modern Russian design and is a farcry from Soviet designs. Even elaborations of the Su-27 family such as the Su-33, 34 & 35 and the MiG35 have shown themselves to be efficient-albeit 30 years too late-designs.
Perhaps Soviet jet fighters themselves were simply victims of inferior or misplaced Soviet military strategic planning?
现今的俄罗斯已经开始对其机队进行现代化改造——数字化、先进的雷达和航空电子设备、更好的武器系统、战场意识和空中协调、空中加油和极具优势的战略已开始成为常态。
苏联理论的问题在于，苏联或华沙条约组织要想获得优势，就必须被入侵和(或)被核弹头夷为平地，这有点违背了保持威慑力的目的，进攻是最好的防御手段，或者说，俄罗斯人已经很好地接受了这个概念，苏57便是现代俄罗斯战机设计的一个很好的例子，与苏联的设计相比，简直是天壤之别，苏27家族，如苏33、34和35以及米格35的精心设计，也显示出它们的确是高效的设计——尽管晚了30年。
也许苏联战机本身只是苏联军事战略规划低劣或错位的受害者？
Perhaps Soviet jet fighters themselves were simply victims of inferior or misplaced Soviet military strategic planning?
现今的俄罗斯已经开始对其机队进行现代化改造——数字化、先进的雷达和航空电子设备、更好的武器系统、战场意识和空中协调、空中加油和极具优势的战略已开始成为常态。
苏联理论的问题在于，苏联或华沙条约组织要想获得优势，就必须被入侵和(或)被核弹头夷为平地，这有点违背了保持威慑力的目的，进攻是最好的防御手段，或者说，俄罗斯人已经很好地接受了这个概念，苏57便是现代俄罗斯战机设计的一个很好的例子，与苏联的设计相比，简直是天壤之别，苏27家族，如苏33、34和35以及米格35的精心设计，也显示出它们的确是高效的设计——尽管晚了30年。
也许苏联战机本身只是苏联军事战略规划低劣或错位的受害者？
Walter Stevens
At various times in history, the Russians have put some very impressive military hardware into the air, and some of that may have exceeded the capabilities of its American contemporaries by various metrics. I would never seek to malign the aerospace industry of Russia. They design and build very good engines, and very good airfrxs. Their problem, as always, has been their ability to fund that aerospace engineering and build significant numbers of the best quality and most technologically advanced military aircraft. Historically they have opted to mass cheaper, less-capable aircraft in the hopes of simply overwhelming their adversaries in the air, and for building only a few highly-advanced aircraft to show off at air shows for propaganda purposes but which they can’t afford in large enough numbers to matter.
So the simple answer is no, Russian jet fighters are not better than American jet fighters. Not because Russia can’t create, on paper, some amazing, world-beating aircraft, but because taking designs on paper and building them in the real world is a serious financial challenge.
在历史上的不同时期，俄罗斯人将一些非常令人印象深刻的军事硬件投入到空中，其中一些可能在各种指标上超过了同时代的美国人。
我从来不会试图恶意诋毁俄罗斯的航空航天工业，他们设计和制造了极佳的发动机和非常好的机体，他们的问题一如既往，即他们是否有能力为航空航天工程提供资金，是否有能力制造大量质量最好、技术最先进的军用飞机。
从历史上看，他们选择大量生产廉价的、性能较差的飞机，希望能在空中通过数量简单地压倒对手，往往只制造几架高精尖的飞机放在航展上以供炫耀，达到宣传的目的，但他们负担不起足够大的数量。
所以简单的答案是否定的，俄罗斯战机并不比美国战机更好，但这并不是因为俄罗斯不能在纸面上创造出一些惊人的、打遍天下无敌手的飞机，而是因为把纸面上的设计拿到现实世界中去制造是一个严重的财政挑战。
At various times in history, the Russians have put some very impressive military hardware into the air, and some of that may have exceeded the capabilities of its American contemporaries by various metrics. I would never seek to malign the aerospace industry of Russia. They design and build very good engines, and very good airfrxs. Their problem, as always, has been their ability to fund that aerospace engineering and build significant numbers of the best quality and most technologically advanced military aircraft. Historically they have opted to mass cheaper, less-capable aircraft in the hopes of simply overwhelming their adversaries in the air, and for building only a few highly-advanced aircraft to show off at air shows for propaganda purposes but which they can’t afford in large enough numbers to matter.
So the simple answer is no, Russian jet fighters are not better than American jet fighters. Not because Russia can’t create, on paper, some amazing, world-beating aircraft, but because taking designs on paper and building them in the real world is a serious financial challenge.
在历史上的不同时期，俄罗斯人将一些非常令人印象深刻的军事硬件投入到空中，其中一些可能在各种指标上超过了同时代的美国人。
我从来不会试图恶意诋毁俄罗斯的航空航天工业，他们设计和制造了极佳的发动机和非常好的机体，他们的问题一如既往，即他们是否有能力为航空航天工程提供资金，是否有能力制造大量质量最好、技术最先进的军用飞机。
从历史上看，他们选择大量生产廉价的、性能较差的飞机，希望能在空中通过数量简单地压倒对手，往往只制造几架高精尖的飞机放在航展上以供炫耀，达到宣传的目的，但他们负担不起足够大的数量。
所以简单的答案是否定的，俄罗斯战机并不比美国战机更好，但这并不是因为俄罗斯不能在纸面上创造出一些惊人的、打遍天下无敌手的飞机，而是因为把纸面上的设计拿到现实世界中去制造是一个严重的财政挑战。
To use a modern example, the Su-57 is, on paper, an incredibly advanced jet fighter, with remarkable capabilities. The biggest problem is Russia can’t afford to build any Su-57s, at least as they were designed on paper. Russia has built only about a dozen prototypes, and not with the same capabilities it was designed for. In practice they’ve used less impressive engines, and cheaper, less-capable parts across the board. They can’t afford to buy any more. You can’t have an air force made up of only about a dozen planes, so the vast majority of Russia’s air forces are previous-generation, the exact sort of planes American fighters have been designed to counter and defeat. Even if the Su-57 is superior to America’s best fighter, the F-22, the entire force of Su-57s in existence can’t carry enough missiles to shoot down all the F-22s America has. That would leave a quite a few F-22s and a lot of F-35s, as well as upgraded F/A-18 Super Hornets and F-15 Eagles to chase down weaponless Su-57s and then go against Russia’s fairly obsolete air forces from the late ‘70s.
用一个现代的例子来说，苏 57理论上是一种非常先进的喷气式战斗机，具有非凡的性能，其最大的问题是，俄罗斯无力建造任何苏 -57这样的战机，至少是无法建造纸面上设计的那种苏57，俄罗斯只建造了大约12架苏57原型机，而且还没有达到原先设计的能力。
在实践中，他们使用的是不那么令人印象深刻的发动机，以及更便宜、能力更差的部件，没办法，他们没钱啊。
你不可能仅用十几架飞机就组成一支空军，所以俄罗斯绝大多数的空军战机都是上一代的，而这些战机正是美国战斗机设计用来对抗和击败的，即使苏 -57战斗机优于美国最好的战斗机 F-22，现有的苏 -57战斗机的整体数量也不足以携带足够的导弹击落美国所有的 F-22战斗机，结果便是相当多的 F-22战机和大量的 F-35战机，以及升级的 F/A-18超级大黄蜂战斗机和 F-15鹰式战斗机可以追击无武器的苏 -57战斗机，然后再对付俄罗斯70年代后期相当陈旧的战机。
用一个现代的例子来说，苏 57理论上是一种非常先进的喷气式战斗机，具有非凡的性能，其最大的问题是，俄罗斯无力建造任何苏 -57这样的战机，至少是无法建造纸面上设计的那种苏57，俄罗斯只建造了大约12架苏57原型机，而且还没有达到原先设计的能力。
在实践中，他们使用的是不那么令人印象深刻的发动机，以及更便宜、能力更差的部件，没办法，他们没钱啊。
你不可能仅用十几架飞机就组成一支空军，所以俄罗斯绝大多数的空军战机都是上一代的，而这些战机正是美国战斗机设计用来对抗和击败的，即使苏 -57战斗机优于美国最好的战斗机 F-22，现有的苏 -57战斗机的整体数量也不足以携带足够的导弹击落美国所有的 F-22战斗机，结果便是相当多的 F-22战机和大量的 F-35战机，以及升级的 F/A-18超级大黄蜂战斗机和 F-15鹰式战斗机可以追击无武器的苏 -57战斗机，然后再对付俄罗斯70年代后期相当陈旧的战机。
Furthermore, Russia fighter doctrine has chosen dogfighting acrobatics over advanced electronics, which puts the fighter—as impressive as it is—at a disadvantage over longer ranges, which is where American fighters are designed to fight and win. The Su-57, with the engine it was originally designed for, and its capabilities on paper, may actually be the best dogfighter in the world, if such a plane were to exist (which is debatable, considering the Su-57s Russia has aren’t really the original design). But if its radar is not good enough to see the F-22, or even the F-35, and it gets shot down by a missile at long range before it’s even aware there are fifth-generation fighters in its airspace, then its dogfighting capabilities are pretty much irrelevant. The F-22 is very, very stealthy. There are reports from over Syria of F-22s sneaking up on Russian strike fighters and doing close intercepts and the Russia jets were apparently taken completely by surprise until the American fighter was right on top of them warning them off from their missions against US-allied forces on the ground. All the supposedly fancy radar systems at use by Russians and their allies on the ground and in the air didn’t help them at all.
此外，俄罗斯战斗机原则上选择了获取狗斗优势，而不是先进的电子设备，这使得其战机虽然令人印象深刻，但在长距离战斗中处于劣势，而长距离战斗正是美国战斗机设计用来战斗和取胜的。
苏57最初设计的发动机及其纸面上的性能，实际上可能是世界上最好的空中格斗机，如果这种飞机真的存在的话(这是有争议的，因为苏57并不是最初的设计)。
但是，如果它的雷达不够好，无法看到 F-22，甚至 F-35，而且在它还没有探测到第五代战斗机之前，它就被远程导弹击落了，那么它的空中格斗能力就几乎无关紧要了。
F-22非常非常隐秘，据来自叙利亚上空的报道，F22战斗机悄悄接近俄罗斯战斗机并进行近距离拦截，俄罗斯的战斗机显然完全被打了个措手不及，直到美国战斗机紧随其后，警告他们不要在地面上执行针对美国盟军的任务才发觉，俄罗斯及其盟友地面和空中所使用的所有传说中牛的一批的雷达系统对他们毫无帮助。
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此外，俄罗斯战斗机原则上选择了获取狗斗优势，而不是先进的电子设备，这使得其战机虽然令人印象深刻，但在长距离战斗中处于劣势，而长距离战斗正是美国战斗机设计用来战斗和取胜的。
苏57最初设计的发动机及其纸面上的性能，实际上可能是世界上最好的空中格斗机，如果这种飞机真的存在的话(这是有争议的，因为苏57并不是最初的设计)。
但是，如果它的雷达不够好，无法看到 F-22，甚至 F-35，而且在它还没有探测到第五代战斗机之前，它就被远程导弹击落了，那么它的空中格斗能力就几乎无关紧要了。
F-22非常非常隐秘，据来自叙利亚上空的报道，F22战斗机悄悄接近俄罗斯战斗机并进行近距离拦截，俄罗斯的战斗机显然完全被打了个措手不及，直到美国战斗机紧随其后，警告他们不要在地面上执行针对美国盟军的任务才发觉，俄罗斯及其盟友地面和空中所使用的所有传说中牛的一批的雷达系统对他们毫无帮助。
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There’s a lot of debate about just how stealthy stealth aircraft really are, but the fact is, fifth-generation fighters are just better than fourth-generation fighters in many ways besides stealth. It’s also undeniable that fifth-generation fighters are extremely expensive to build. It’s not that Russia is bad at designing and building advanced aircraft, they simply can’t afford to keep up with the arms race. It’s also questionable if Russian radar systems and other electronics have kept up with the Americans, and increasingly electronics are more important to air superiority than fancy air show maneuvers. When you compare American fifth-generation fighters being bought by the United States in large numbers to the bulk of the Russian air forces which are still fourth-generation because Russia can’t afford the fifth-generation technology, there’s just no question who has the upper hand.
As you read the other answers to this question, beware anyone trying to compare Russian prototypes and designs on paper to production American aircraft in current service. At the end of the day, what matters is what you can actually put in the air in squadron strength with real-world capabilities. There is no question, the F-22 is the best fighter in the world, and the US has almost 200 of them, fully operational, in numerous active and reserve squadrons.
关于隐身飞机的性能到底如何，大家争论不休，但事实上，第五代战斗机除了隐身之外，在很多方面都比第四代战斗机要好。
第五代战斗机的制造成本极高也是不可否认的，这并不是说俄罗斯不擅长设计和制造先进的飞机，而是他们根本就跟不上军备竞赛的步伐。
俄罗斯的雷达系统和其它电子设备是否跟上了美国人的脚步也是个问题，越来越多的电子设备对空中优势的重要性超过了花哨的飞行表演动作。
美国空军大量采购第五代战机，俄罗斯空军大部分还是第四代战机，俄罗斯负担不起第五代战机技术，谁占上风是毫无疑问的。
当你读到这个问题的其他答案时，要小心那些试图将俄罗斯纸面上的原型机和设计与美国现役的生产型飞机进行比较的人。
归根结底，重要的是你能以中队规模实际投入空中的实战能力，毫无疑问，F-22是世界上最好的战斗机，美国有近200架，而且完全可以投入使用，拥有众多的现役和后备中队。
As you read the other answers to this question, beware anyone trying to compare Russian prototypes and designs on paper to production American aircraft in current service. At the end of the day, what matters is what you can actually put in the air in squadron strength with real-world capabilities. There is no question, the F-22 is the best fighter in the world, and the US has almost 200 of them, fully operational, in numerous active and reserve squadrons.
关于隐身飞机的性能到底如何，大家争论不休，但事实上，第五代战斗机除了隐身之外，在很多方面都比第四代战斗机要好。
第五代战斗机的制造成本极高也是不可否认的，这并不是说俄罗斯不擅长设计和制造先进的飞机，而是他们根本就跟不上军备竞赛的步伐。
俄罗斯的雷达系统和其它电子设备是否跟上了美国人的脚步也是个问题，越来越多的电子设备对空中优势的重要性超过了花哨的飞行表演动作。
美国空军大量采购第五代战机，俄罗斯空军大部分还是第四代战机，俄罗斯负担不起第五代战机技术，谁占上风是毫无疑问的。
当你读到这个问题的其他答案时，要小心那些试图将俄罗斯纸面上的原型机和设计与美国现役的生产型飞机进行比较的人。
归根结底，重要的是你能以中队规模实际投入空中的实战能力，毫无疑问，F-22是世界上最好的战斗机，美国有近200架，而且完全可以投入使用，拥有众多的现役和后备中队。
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