汉朝传统乐舞《神人畅》评论
2021-03-10 司幽 24613
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Henrique Queiroz
I think that the Zi De Guqin Studio should put their work on Spotify and other medias, so we can appreciate more those wonderful creations of yours and present them to our family and friends.
I can´t stop listening your channel.
Many thanks from Governador Valadares - Brasil

我认为自得琴社工作室应该把他们的作品放到Spotify(译注:一家在线音乐流服务平台)和其它媒体上面,这样我们就可以更多地欣赏你们的这些伟大的作品了,并且把它们展现给我们的家人和朋友。我收听你们的频道,完全停不下来
非常感谢,来自巴西,瓦拉达里斯州长市

Ciao Chao
Get onto Spotify please!!!

放到Spotify上面,求求了

Jacqueline
no I do not find that it is necessary to put this on different supports. they don't need to be better known, they have their extraordinary talent and share it after very precise work. they don't have to be vilified

不,我不认为有必要把它们放到不同的平台上,他们没必要变得更出名,他们拥有超凡的才能,在细致的工作之后分享他们的作品,他们没有必要接受别人的认可

Your Mom
@Jacqueline What? It's not about validity. It's so more people can hear the beauty. It's their choice anyway. Maybe they would be interested in such a thing and it just never caught their attention? Forcing a false humility on others is rude. Exposure shame somewhere else.

什么?这和认可没有一点关系。这是为了让更多的人听到这些美丽的作品。反正这是他们的选择。或许他们对这样的事情感兴趣,只是从来没引起他们的注意?把虚假的谦虚强加在别人身上是不礼貌的。要丢人请到别的地方去丢

StreamGOD
@Jacqueline StreamGOD
@Jacqueline Yes it is necessary, YouTube has a terrible quality sound and for people like me that have good headset we need the song on lossless audio (so not Spotify but like Deezer, Tidal...)

不,这是有必要的,油管的音质非常差,像我一样拥有良好头戴设备的人需要无损音质(所以,不是Spotify,而是像deezer,tidal之类的)
译注:Deezer是一家法国在线音乐流媒体服务提供商
Tidal是一个采用订阅收益模式的流媒体服务,提供无损音频和高清的音乐录影带
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Siyan HU
Apple Music Please!!!

请放到苹果音乐上
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Boda Shen

This is one of oldest quqin piece in China. Very rare style called 暢!神人暢 depicted a conversation with god 1500years history
这是中国一首非常古老的古琴曲,是一种叫做“暢”的稀有的风格,神人畅描绘了1500年前与神沟通的场景

julien chabert
Do you know what's the name of this piece in english or pinyin ? I would like to find a translation of the lyrics

你知道这首曲子的英文名或者拼音是什么吗?我想去找找歌词的翻译

H. Andy Lingua
@julien chabert - While it’s possible there is actually an English name I’m sorry to report I don’t know it. Searching using pinyin can often be bewildering because so many characters in Chinese look different, mean different, but sound the same. Are you asking for these 2 options because you don’t know how to type Chinese characters?
You can (on desktop for sure) just copy-n-paste the 3 Chinese characters right before the word ‘depicted’ into search boxes. If you also add an English word ex. 'translate’ you’ll get results not already in the other search.
If you put the characters into google translate you can get the pinyin (can’t vouch for the definition though). Replace all letters with diacritic marks with the same letters without the marks to get additional search term. These four search terms alone might send you into a pretty deep rabbit hole!

虽然有可能真的有一个英文名字,但很抱歉我不知道。使用拼音搜索常常令人困惑,因为汉语中的许多字看起来不同,意思不同,但发音相同。你想要这两者是因为你不知道怎么打汉字吗?
你可以(当然是在电脑上)只需将“描绘”一词前面的3个汉字复制粘贴到搜索框中。如果你另外添加了比如“翻译”这样的词,你可以得到搜索结果
如果你把这些字放到谷歌翻译中,你可以得到拼音(但不能保证正确)。将所有带声调符号的字母替换为不带符号的相同字母,以获得额外的搜索词。但这仅有的四个搜索词可能把你送进一个很深的坑里面

OsakaRose
@H. Andy Lingua : Wow. Chinese is so difficult!

哇,汉语真难

OsakaRose
Thank you for this info. Does the girl vanish in the end because the god gets angry with her or something?

谢谢你提供的信息。结尾女孩消失是因为神灵被她惹怒了还是因为别的什么?

H. Andy Lingua
OsakaRose -- Yes, it can be daunting when you try to learn Chinese as an adult, or even teenager, without understanding that the Chinese languages work very differently from the language you already think in.
Representing Chinese characters using the Latin alphabet is akin to turning an orchid into a two dimensional jpg...in sepia...and only 72dpi. :) That’s not even translation of meaning, that’s just transliteration.
But it is possible for a person who does not read/speak Chinese to do research into Chinese topics. Having a native guide to get you started is key.

是的,作为一个成年人,如果你不知道汉语的运作方式和你所习惯的语言非常不同,学习汉语会变得非常令人生畏,甚至少年阶段也是如此
用拉丁字母来表示汉字就像是把兰花变成深褐色二维图片,并且每英寸只有72像素点。那甚至不是意译,而是音译
但是一个不会读/说中文的人用这个方法搜索中国有关的话题还是可以的,关键是一开始要找个中文母语的人来指导你
以德服人
@julien chabert 神(shén)人(rén)暢(chàng) -- “Conversation with the Gods”
The dance depicted the ancient, almost forgotten sacrificial ritual during the Han dynasty. The dance originally wanted to show the idea of 天人合一 (Heaven and Human in One). In the end of this video, the girl was either sacrificed and send to the Gods, or finished the communication and ascended to the Heavens.
神(shén)人(rén)暢(chàng)——“与神明交流”
这支舞蹈描绘了古代,几乎被遗忘的汉代献祭仪式。舞蹈起初是要展现天人合一的概念。在视频的结尾,那个女孩要么是被牺牲并送到神明那儿去了,或者是结束了交流,登天而去了

H. Andy Lingua
@OsakaRose - This is merely MY 2 cents: No, it’s more like once she achieved complete communx with the universe (or gods), the body is no longer substantial. Sorta kinda like Obi-Wan Kenobi turning into a force ghost during the face-off with his former padawan.

这仅仅是我的想法:不,这更像是一旦她完全实现了与宇宙(或神)的交流,身体就不再是实体了。有点像欧比旺·克诺比在和他原先的身体面对面时变成了一个原力幽灵。
译注:欧比旺·克诺比,亦称本·克诺比,是《星球大战》系列电影中的角色。

David Hoffman
@OsakaRose No ones know because the original meaning was lost after it passed down couple thousand years. Also the ceremony was supposed to be secretive and mysterious, largely forbidden to the public. Only certain people on the tops knew it. There are many different interpretations. One interpretation was the god pleased with the dance and the music. Her ascendancy to heaven was admitted. Another interpretation was rather dark. She was killed and made sacrificial to the god during the ceremony as the heavenly music were playing. However, judging by the dark and mysterious nature of the video, the latter interpretation is the case. The dance was realistic depicted as it could get in ancient China couple thousand years ago.

没有人知道,因为最初的含义在几千年的流传之中丢失了。并且这场祭祀典礼应该是神秘的,不被允许在公众面前展示,只有最上层的人知道它。对此有好几种不同的解释。一种解释是神明对舞蹈和音乐很满意,她被允许飞升到天庭。另外一种解释则比较黑暗,当天籁之音奏响时,她被杀死,并且在仪式中被献祭给了神明。然而,从这个视频黑暗和神秘的基调来看,后一种解释说得通。这场舞蹈被描绘地很逼真,你可以在两千年前的中国看到它

ZT Su

The title of this music piece is "神人畅" (roughly translated as "Harmony between Man and God"). It is one of only two Guqin music pieces that predates the Tang dynasty (naturally the rest were lost due to the long history eg wars, etc). For those who do not know the Chinese instrument Guqin, it is the second instrument from left in this video.
According to "琴论" (roughly translated as the "Book of Guqin") that was written by "谢希逸" (421 AD - 466 AD), the Guqin music piece "神人畅" was written by "尧" (Emperor Yao, 2356 BC - 2255 BC). It depicts the love or feeling of God for Man.
For more info, you can refer to the following Baidu encyclopedia search result on "神人畅":

https://baike.baidu.com/item/%E7%A5%9E%E4%BA%BA%E7%95%85/8584707#1
Note that it's in Chinese & if you use Google auto-translate, there may be a number of translation errors & the translation result may not be satisfactory.

乐曲的标题是“神人畅”(大致翻译做“人与神的和谐”)。这是可以追溯到唐代之前的两首古琴曲子之一(其它的因为漫长的历史、战争等等自然而然地消失了),关于那些不知道中国乐器古琴的人,视频左边第二件就是古琴
根据谢希逸(公元421-公元466)所写的“琴论”(大致翻译做“琴之书”),古琴曲“神人畅”是由“尧”(尧帝,公元前2356-公元前2255)所写的,它描绘了神明对人们的爱或者感情
想要获取更多信息,请参考以下百度百科搜索结果“神人畅”(译注:链接略)
需要注意的是,它是中文的,如果你用谷歌自动翻译,可能会出现一定数量的翻译错误,翻译结果可能不令人满意

Beryl Fang
@OsakaRose No, I think she vanished because the gods liked the ritual so much so that they summoned her up to heaven for a conversation in person.

不,我认为她消失是因为神明非常喜欢这个仪式,所以他们把她召唤到天庭进行私底下交流

Redd Hong
Only 1500 years? The dressing was like the style in the Jan dynasty. That was 2000 years ago.

只有1500年?这服饰的风格是Jan代的,那是两千年前了

H- G93422HN
@Redd Hong dude.. is Han, not Jan...

哥们,是汉代,不是Jan代

Bening Lintang
I low-key terrified when hearing this song. It just sounds so mythical and sacred. The dancer looks like a doll that played by the higher force. It just out of this world. Every detail of the movement matches the nuance of the music, like they are one. :")

听这首歌的时候我有点害怕。它听起来如此神话般以及吓人。舞者看上去就像是个被某种高级力量控制着的傀儡,它简直是天方夜谭,动作的每个细节都与音乐细节相匹配,合二为一

s a r a
The atmosphere of this video is insane!

这首曲子的氛围太令人惊叹了
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K K
I felt like a King sitting here watching this

我就像是一个国王一下坐在这里看这场舞蹈

James Yao
Well yes this would make a very good 4K dancing session, but since this is a sacrificial ritual, there usually would be no spectators...

嗯,是的,这本将是一个非常好的4K舞蹈视频,但由于这是一个祭祀仪式,通常不会有观众。
以德服人

A king would've been pretty scared too I guess lol. Not even an emperor would sit his ass down and watch a dark and thrilling sacrificial ritual...

我猜国王也会感到非常害怕。即使是帝王也不会坐下来观看这样一场黑暗并且毛骨悚然的献祭仪式

Johannes P

@以德服人 Emperors from the ancient past WERE the divine priests. They were the key performers in any sacrifice.
古代的皇帝是神圣的祭司。他们是任何献祭仪式的重要表演者。

Devin Tseng
No,there are thousands of kings watching this

不,有成百上千的国王在观看这个

Big Hit
I would probably look crazy if i try to dance this ha the grace I can't ·---·

如果我试图跳这支舞,我可能会看起来像疯子一样。哈哈,我没法跳得这么优雅

neothypp
It is very impressive that Chinese music can be saved since millenars.
Not every civilization nowadays can do that.
Ancient music partition are still preserved and can be learned

真是令人映像深刻,中国音乐可以保存几千年
不是今天所有的文明都可以做到这一点的
古典音乐依然得以保留,并且可以被学习

Mada Darmawan
It's a pity for only takes 5 minutes. I hope this will be longer.... True

只有5分钟太可惜了,我希望这个视频能更长一些,真的

Maurits van Uffelen

The original song is longer. Search for 龚一 神人畅
原版的歌更长,请搜索 龚一 神人畅

leekimwah
The atmosphere of this music video is totally different from the previous ones. Dark and eerie....I actually feel like I’m watching the performance live before my very eyes! I was holding my breath watching it, afraid that a ghost might jump out of nowhere....The ending is super captivating.

这个音乐视频的氛围和先前的那些完全不一样。黑暗和怪异……我实际上感觉我自己像是在现场亲眼观看这场表演!观看的时候我屏住呼吸,害怕突然间跳出一只鬼来。结尾太迷人了

OsakaRose
That girl looked like a ghost appearing out of the darkness. Then she just vanishes! How the heck did they do that???

那个女孩看上去就像一个鬼魂一样从黑暗中显现,然后她就这样消失了!他们到底是怎么做到的???
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Joey Y.
This piece has depicted a ritual to communicate with the Heaven and pray for the ending of the endless raining. You can hear the thunder roaring and the rain dropping in the background. And the dance is also for communication with the Heaven. She's kinda like a priestress in this ritual. This music has a history for at least 500 hundred years, and they have restructed the whole set in this video.

这个舞蹈描绘了一场与上天沟通并祈求停止无尽的降雨的仪式,在背景中你可以听见雷电轰鸣,雨水滴答的声音。这支舞也是用来与上天沟通的。她在这场仪式中就像是一个女祭司。这段音乐至少有500年历史了。他们在这个视频中重建了整个场景

Allen Young
I think this showed the real atmosphere of ancient night of China. when there's no electricity

我认为这个视频展现了古代中国真实的夜间氛围。那时候没有电

Ave Kyo
@Joey Y. Thousands of years

是几千年

Ken Y
china now has the wealth, the technology, it just need a cultural renessiance to truely manifest it's destiny.

中国现在拥有财富和技术,它只需要一场文艺复兴来真正主宰自己的命运

Tr
And good PR to show reality and counter western propaganda.

还需要良好的公关,呈现事实,以对抗西方的宣传

CheungChing Tong
@Tr couldnt agree more

完全同意

_
It was AWESOME!!! I am a big fan of the Han Dynasty, but this performance from start to finish consumed me completely. Music vibrating in the heart, a dance from which one cannot look away, and a final chord from which the heart broke. Awesome. You guys are really amazing!!

太棒了!!!我是汉朝的忠实粉丝,但是这场演出从头到尾让我我彻底陶醉了。音乐在心中颤动,一支让人舍不得移开视线的舞蹈,一个让人心碎的最终和弦。令人惊叹,你们真是太棒了!!

X
Listening and watching these videos for free just feels very wrong... Now that I feel I owe you too much.

免费观看这些视频感觉很不合适……现在我觉得我欠你们太多了

Leigh J
IMO, this is far better than modern dance

这比现代舞蹈好太多了

Kris Tran
by modern you mean the people who shake their huge asses in an attempt to trigger male pleasure hormones?

你说的“现代”指的是人们摇摆着她们巨大的屁股,试图激起男性愉悦的荷尔蒙的那种吗?

Илья Должников
I wish more people would discover asian music... Really, it is fantastic! Thank you for this masterwork, guys!

我希望更多人能发现亚洲音乐……真的,这太梦幻了!谢谢你们给我们带来这个杰作

Calgary Biomass Utilization GUILD
If you have WeChat, you could also follow their official account Zideqinshe. There are more details or stories behind each video you could learn from. Unfortunately, they are only in Chinese.

如果你们有微信,你们可以关注她们的官方账号zideqinshe。在那里你们可以了解到更多幕后的细节和故事。不幸的是,只有中文
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Tris Deng
Thanks for sharing the availability of their WeChat account!

感谢你分享他们的微信账号

Erica Phillips
Awesome! Thanks for doing this I enjoy all your videos. And thanks to people in the comments for telling us in English what and were is is from. I always enjoy these and the history.

太棒了!谢谢你们,我喜欢你们所有的视频。同时也感谢评论区的人们用英语告诉我们这些东西是什么,源自哪里。我一直喜欢这些历史。

Panda Dyranda
Imagine after hearing this Dong Zhou come crashing down Luo Yang and start moving the capital to Chang An
and replace the Emperor as he will.

想象一下,董卓听了这个之后,跑来碾碎洛阳,把首都移到长安,然后按照自己的意愿取代皇帝

Elsa Kasapoglou
I can't stop watching this. The music, the dance, the setting, they have me enchanted.

我停不下来了。音乐,舞蹈,布景,都让我着迷。

The Magic Crafter
What a stunning performance through and through! Zi De Guqin Studio creates fabulous content. Thank you for sharing such otherworldly videos!

多么精彩的表演啊!自得琴社工作室创作了精彩的内容。谢谢你分享这些超凡脱俗的视频!

Waldläufer
This is absolute amazing! I've got goosebumps all over my body. Definitely need more like this.

这简直太棒了!我全身都起了鸡皮疙瘩。我们绝对需要更多像这样的作品

Claudio Carvalho
Amazing! So good that I lost track of time and it seems that it flew so fast and so good the piece shown. Great! Congratulations! - Incrível! Tão bom que perdi a noção do tempo e parece que voou de tão rápido e tão boa a peça mostrada. Excelente! Parabéns!

太棒了!精彩得都让我我忘记了时间的流逝,时间过得如此之快,舞蹈如此之棒。很棒!恭喜!

Yuming Shao
Han Dynasty is definitely one of the best eras in human history

汉朝绝对是人类历史上最好的时代之一

Seabrook the Magnificent
Love it Love it Love it . Thank you Zi De Guqin Studio for reminding the World why China is here, peaceful China, great China, thoughtful China..., Tai-Chi opened the door for me a long time ago, and to see this culture continue its spread into the heart of humanity, well it is simply a wonderful antidote to the new poisonous American ethos that has descended upon us. Perhaps China can help us regain our inherently great American trust and compassion.

爱了,爱了,爱了。感谢自得琴社工作室提醒了世界为什么中国会屹立在这里,和平的中国,伟大的中国,有思想的中国……太极拳在很久以前为我打开了一扇门,看到这种文化继续传播到人类的心脏,它是对降临到我们身上的新的有毒的美国道德观的一种极好的解毒剂。或许中国可以帮助我们重新获得美国固有的巨大信任和同情心。

Jake4595
Please make more videos with this dancer. Her movements are beautiful and amazing!

请多做一些关于这位舞者的视频。她的动作很优雅,令人惊叹
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Dux
The atmosphere is amazing, you can feel the tension

氛围太棒了,你可以感受到紧张的情绪

NC
Mesmerizing, captivating, and thrilling at the same time!

迷人,富有魅力,同时又惊心动魄

Andrés Serrano
AMAZING! I would love to understand every single character on screen :( for me, every line looks like incomprehensible art

令人惊叹!我想了解屏幕上的每一个角色:( 对于我来说,每一行字看起来都像是一种深奥的艺术
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Neil S
Andrés Serrano Trust me even most of modern Chinese don’t understand it

相信我,即使很多当代中国人也无法理解这些句子
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Abbie Cai
What a beautiful ancient dance and music, amazing ending!

多么美丽的古典舞蹈和音乐啊,结尾太棒了

Yea
i love the ending!! when the dancer suddenly disappeared and the lights went dark.

我喜欢这个结尾!!舞者突然消失的时候灯光变黑了

Geralt von Riva
I absolutly love this channel. It is pure emotion when I listen to your music. Thank you so much.

我喜欢这个频道。聆听你的音乐的时候,我能感受到纯粹的情感。谢谢你们

Khent Pam
Damn the atmosphere makes my hairz up, looks like opening the yellow spring portal

天呐,这氛围让我毛发都立起来了,看上去就像打开黄泉之门一样

Aniron Ariron
I've been obsessed with this instrument since "The Untamed"

从“陈情令”开始,我就被这种乐器祝福着

Anarchy
Wow, you all just keep improving with every new video. Fantastic work, thank you!

哇,你们的每一段新视频都在不断进步。太棒了,谢谢!

maffiaw
When subtitles need their own subtitles...shit just got real lol

当字幕本身也需要字幕的时候……什么都能发生
九渡Tyan

and i can't even fully understand subtitles of subtitles.....ancient Chinese is so condensed of meanings...each line has to be expanded to an essay to fully understand..

然而我连字幕的字幕都无法完全理解……文言文信息密度太大了……每一行字都得用一篇文章来解释才能解释清楚

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