F-35：太贵了，用不起，也损失不起
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The F35 is the greatest boondoggle in American history, as one writer says, “too expensive to use, too expensive to lose”. Over its lifespan, it will cost the American taxpayer $1.7 trillion. An F35B costs $138 million dollars and over $36,000 an hour to operate.
正如一位作者所言，F35 是美国史上最大的浪费，“ 太贵了，用不起，也损失不起”。
在其寿命期内，它将耗费美国纳税人1.7万亿美元，一架 F35B 的成本为1.38亿美元，每小时的运营成本超过3.6万美元。
The F35 is the greatest boondoggle in American history, as one writer says, “too expensive to use, too expensive to lose”. Over its lifespan, it will cost the American taxpayer $1.7 trillion. An F35B costs $138 million dollars and over $36,000 an hour to operate.
正如一位作者所言，F35 是美国史上最大的浪费，“ 太贵了，用不起，也损失不起”。
在其寿命期内，它将耗费美国纳税人1.7万亿美元，一架 F35B 的成本为1.38亿美元，每小时的运营成本超过3.6万美元。
Intended to replace the F16, the F35 is slow, maneuvers sluggishly and cannot fire its new lightweight Gatling without destroying the housing and the airplane. It suffers from 13 “class one” defects that endanger both the aircraft and its crew. And 871 flaws that must be corrected before it can be fully operational—in 5 years.
F35 打算取代 F16，但它速度慢，机动迟缓，还无法在不破坏外壳和飞机的情况下使用其新型轻加特林机炮，F35 存在13个危及战机和机组人员的 "一级 "缺陷，还有871项缺陷，必须在5年内纠正后才能完全投入使用。
F35 打算取代 F16，但它速度慢，机动迟缓，还无法在不破坏外壳和飞机的情况下使用其新型轻加特林机炮，F35 存在13个危及战机和机组人员的 "一级 "缺陷，还有871项缺陷，必须在5年内纠正后才能完全投入使用。
Still, the US has managed to force this aerial junk on a lot of its allies, most recently the UAE, which has prompted the Israelis who have two squadrons of the F35 and mostly use it for PR, to ask for the F22, which, of course, they can only afford to buy with American money.
不过，美国还是成功地把这种空中垃圾强加给了很多盟友，最近的一个是阿联酋，这也促使拥有两个 F35中队的以色列人要求购买 F22，当然，他们只会用美国的钱来买。
不过，美国还是成功地把这种空中垃圾强加给了很多盟友，最近的一个是阿联酋，这也促使拥有两个 F35中队的以色列人要求购买 F22，当然，他们只会用美国的钱来买。
Last year, there were reports that the Syrians had downed an F35 over Syria with a Soviet era S200. The Israelis claimed a bird did it—over Israel. Nobody really knows.
The Syrians certainly shot something down! And it wasn’t an…um…bird.
去年，有报道称叙利亚人用苏联时代的 S200 在叙利亚上空击落了一架 F35，以色列人声称是一只鸟干的，而且是在以色列空域——没有人知道真相究竟如何。
叙利亚人肯定击落了什么东西 ! 而且那不是一只 ... 呃 ... 鸟。
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The Syrians certainly shot something down! And it wasn’t an…um…bird.
去年，有报道称叙利亚人用苏联时代的 S200 在叙利亚上空击落了一架 F35，以色列人声称是一只鸟干的，而且是在以色列空域——没有人知道真相究竟如何。
叙利亚人肯定击落了什么东西 ! 而且那不是一只 ... 呃 ... 鸟。
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However, it is unlikely that the Israelis are using the F35 over Syria. Losing an F35 to the Syrians–especially to a large anti-Zionist Syrian crow – would be too big embarrassment. Most IDF strikes inside Syria seem to have been carried out by F16s, which are faster, carry more ordinance and have the maneuverability to avoid incoming missiles if they detect them early enough.
然而，以色列不太可能在叙利亚使用 F35，损失一架 F35战机，输给叙利亚人，尤其是输给一群反犹太复国主义的叙利亚人，将会非常尴尬。多数以色列国防军在叙利亚境内发动的空袭都是由 F16战斗机执行的，这种战斗机速度更快，携带更多的弹药，如果能尽早发现来袭的导弹，以其机动性，可以避开来袭的导弹。
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然而，以色列不太可能在叙利亚使用 F35，损失一架 F35战机，输给叙利亚人，尤其是输给一群反犹太复国主义的叙利亚人，将会非常尴尬。多数以色列国防军在叙利亚境内发动的空袭都是由 F16战斗机执行的，这种战斗机速度更快，携带更多的弹药，如果能尽早发现来袭的导弹，以其机动性，可以避开来袭的导弹。
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Another point….
Gen. Tod Wolters, who leads U.S. European Command, offered this explanation:
还有一点.......
美国欧洲司令部司令托德·沃尔特斯将军给出了这样的解释：
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Gen. Tod Wolters, who leads U.S. European Command, offered this explanation:
还有一点.......
美国欧洲司令部司令托德·沃尔特斯将军给出了这样的解释：
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“You cannot operate an F-35 in the vicinity of an S-400. They won’t talk to each other, and what the two systems will attempt to do, certainly the S-400 against the F-35, is attempt to exploit the F-35’s capabilities.”
“你不能在 S-400 附近使用F35，这两系统是不对付的，S-400 如果对上 F35，显然 S-400 会利用机会测试和寻找F35的漏洞。”
“你不能在 S-400 附近使用F35，这两系统是不对付的，S-400 如果对上 F35，显然 S-400 会利用机会测试和寻找F35的漏洞。”
The US, of course, has been using the F22 in Eastern Syria and Iraq within range of Russian systems, which now reportedly can detect even this more capable stealth aircraft.
当然，美国一直在叙利亚东部和伊拉克使用 F22，且在俄罗斯的防空系统范围内，据报道现在连F22这种能力更强的隐身飞机都能探测到。
当然，美国一直在叙利亚东部和伊拉克使用 F22，且在俄罗斯的防空系统范围内，据报道现在连F22这种能力更强的隐身飞机都能探测到。
Yes, the Americans tried out the F35 in Afghanistan, since locals throwing rocks weren’t much of a threat. The sales point of the F35 is “stealth”, which is only fine–when your opponent doesn’t have much in the way of advanced radar equipment.
是的，美国人在阿富汗试用了 F35，因为当地人扔石头并不构成威胁，F35的卖点是“隐形”，但这只有在你的对手没有太多先进雷达设备的情况下才行。
是的，美国人在阿富汗试用了 F35，因为当地人扔石头并不构成威胁，F35的卖点是“隐形”，但这只有在你的对手没有太多先进雷达设备的情况下才行。
“Stealth” is not invisibility.
“隐形”并非不可见
“隐形”并非不可见
An S400 real time anti-stealth radar system can certainly pick up even a large bird-sized obxt, at 150 km, especially when moving at 700km per hour, which is a giveaway.
一套S400实时反隐身雷达系统，在150公里的距离上，肯定能探测到哪怕是鸟类大小的物体，尤其是这个物体还以700公里每小时的速度移动时，必然会暴露，这就是送死。
一套S400实时反隐身雷达系统，在150公里的距离上，肯定能探测到哪怕是鸟类大小的物体，尤其是这个物体还以700公里每小时的速度移动时，必然会暴露，这就是送死。
The Russians have yet to allow S300 or S400 launches in Syria thanks to a tacit agreement with the Israelis not to exacerbate regional tensions: so, it is not just that the very, very pragmatic Israelis don’t want to use the unreliable F35 over Syria, whose antiaircraft systems to be so much more sophisticated than, say, Lebanon—they don’t want to provoke the Russians.
俄罗斯尚未允许 S300 或 S400 在叙利亚开火，这要归功于以色列与俄罗斯达成了不加剧地区紧张局势的默契 :
因此，极度务实的以色列不想在叙利亚上空使用不可靠的 F35，叙利亚的防空系统要比黎巴嫩复杂得多——而且他们也不想激怒俄国人。
俄罗斯尚未允许 S300 或 S400 在叙利亚开火，这要归功于以色列与俄罗斯达成了不加剧地区紧张局势的默契 :
因此，极度务实的以色列不想在叙利亚上空使用不可靠的 F35，叙利亚的防空系统要比黎巴嫩复杂得多——而且他们也不想激怒俄国人。
The last time they did that, the Russians supplied the Syrians with the S300–albeit keeping control of these systems. The warning is obvious: there are redlines.
上一次他们这样做，俄罗斯人向叙利亚人提供了S300——尽管俄罗斯保持了对这些系统的控制， 警告很明显：勿踩红线。
上一次他们这样做，俄罗斯人向叙利亚人提供了S300——尽管俄罗斯保持了对这些系统的控制， 警告很明显：勿踩红线。
The Pentagon doesn’t really want this dog. Dogs don’t fly.
五角大楼不想要这只狗——这狗它不会飞啊。
五角大楼不想要这只狗——这狗它不会飞啊。
But, as in the Yeltsin years in Russia, the US government works for the nation’s oligarchs, a country for Big Tech, by Big Tech, of Big Tech.
但是，就像在叶利钦时代的俄罗斯一样，美国政府为这个国家的寡头们工作，这个国家为大科技公司服务，由大科技公司管理，为大科技公司所有。
但是，就像在叶利钦时代的俄罗斯一样，美国政府为这个国家的寡头们工作，这个国家为大科技公司服务，由大科技公司管理，为大科技公司所有。
The nation’s “defense” industry is a malapropism: all its wars are offensive. If the weapons don’t work too well — it doesn’t matter–because the US doesn’t fight anyone but third world countries. The more expensive and complicated the weapons are, the better it is for he companies that make them. How else can a poor CEO buy that second island in the Caribbean and a new private jet?
美国的 "国防 "工业是一个恶性循环：它所有的战争都是进攻性的，如果武器不太好用——也无所谓——因为美国除了第三世界国家，谁也不打。
武器越昂贵、越复杂，对制造武器的公司就越有利，否则，一个可怜的CEO怎么能买得下加勒比海两个岛屿、一架新私人飞机？
美国的 "国防 "工业是一个恶性循环：它所有的战争都是进攻性的，如果武器不太好用——也无所谓——因为美国除了第三世界国家，谁也不打。
武器越昂贵、越复杂，对制造武器的公司就越有利，否则，一个可怜的CEO怎么能买得下加勒比海两个岛屿、一架新私人飞机？
It also doesn’t matter that the America lost to little Vietnam, ended up losing Iraq to Iran, and soon leave Afghanistan, its tail between its legs. It is even losing in Yemen.
美国输给了小小的越南，输给了伊拉克，输给了伊朗，最后，很快又要夹着尾巴离开阿富汗， 甚至在也门也输的一塌糊涂，不过这些都无关紧要。
美国输给了小小的越南，输给了伊拉克，输给了伊朗，最后，很快又要夹着尾巴离开阿富汗， 甚至在也门也输的一塌糊涂，不过这些都无关紧要。
Of course, bullying other countries is more of a problem when your equipment doesn’t work. The new USS Ford, super carrier in the South China Sea? It can’t launch its aircraft. The UK’s new carrier which is supposed to show the flag against China? Its F35Bs can’t fire their guns. In any case, carriers are nice targets for hypersonic missiles.
当然，当你的装备不行的时候，欺负别的国家就要更麻烦一点。
游弋南中国的新超级航母福特号？——它不能弹射飞机。
英国的新航母，本来是要对中国亮出旗帜的？ —— 它的F35B没法使用机炮。
不管怎样，航母都是高超音速导弹的好目标。
当然，当你的装备不行的时候，欺负别的国家就要更麻烦一点。
游弋南中国的新超级航母福特号？——它不能弹射飞机。
英国的新航母，本来是要对中国亮出旗帜的？ —— 它的F35B没法使用机炮。
不管怎样，航母都是高超音速导弹的好目标。
The Russians and Chinese do defense differently – because for them it actually is defense.
俄罗斯人和中国人的“国防”防御方式不同——因为对他们来说，国防是真国防。
俄罗斯人和中国人的“国防”防御方式不同——因为对他们来说，国防是真国防。
When Putin took over, he made it clear to the oligarchs who previously owned the country that they either deferred to the State, or got out. Some went to prison. Some got out. Russia is still very unequal but the Rich toe the line just as they do in China.
普京上台后，他向曾经拥有这个国家的寡头们明确表示，他们要么听命于国家，要么滚出去，有些人进了监狱，有些人逃了出来，尽管俄罗斯仍然非常不平等，但是其富人和中国富人一样，遵规守矩。
普京上台后，他向曾经拥有这个国家的寡头们明确表示，他们要么听命于国家，要么滚出去，有些人进了监狱，有些人逃了出来，尽管俄罗斯仍然非常不平等，但是其富人和中国富人一样，遵规守矩。
When the Ministry of Defense is not satisfied with a military product, either in terms of cost or performance, it simply cuts orders. This was the case with the Su57. Originally, the government had envisioned putting up to 250 of these aircraft into service by 2025. Now, Russia will get 76 aircraft at a 20% reduction in cost, with better engines, hypersonic weapons, electronics, improved stealth and general finish.
在俄罗斯，当俄国防部对军事不满意时，别管你是成本问题还是性能问题，都会直接削减订单，苏57就是这种情况，原本，政府设想在2025年之前将多达250架这种战机投入使用，但现在，俄罗斯只采购76架，成本降低了20%，配备了更好的发动机、高超音速武器、电子设备，改进了隐身性和总体完成度。
在俄罗斯，当俄国防部对军事不满意时，别管你是成本问题还是性能问题，都会直接削减订单，苏57就是这种情况，原本，政府设想在2025年之前将多达250架这种战机投入使用，但现在，俄罗斯只采购76架，成本降低了20%，配备了更好的发动机、高超音速武器、电子设备，改进了隐身性和总体完成度。
And the Su57 will cost about $35 to $40 million each compared to the 138 million of the 35B or the $300 million of an F22. One reason for the discrepancy is that US companies expect the taxpayer to pay R&D and developmental costs, which are added to the flyaway cost. Of course, the companies use that R&D for lucrative commercial projects as well.
苏57每架成本约为3500万至4000万美元，而 F35B 的造价是1.38亿美元，F22更是高达3亿美元。
造成这种差异的一个原因是，美国公司希望纳税人支付研发和开发费用，而这些费用是加在成本中的，当然，这些公司也会把这些研发费用用于利润丰厚的商业项目。
苏57每架成本约为3500万至4000万美元，而 F35B 的造价是1.38亿美元，F22更是高达3亿美元。
造成这种差异的一个原因是，美国公司希望纳税人支付研发和开发费用，而这些费用是加在成本中的，当然，这些公司也会把这些研发费用用于利润丰厚的商业项目。
Russia doesn’t have money to spare. It is still recovering from the Yelsin years and massive inequality. So it keeps defense companies in line.
俄罗斯没有多余的钱。它仍然处于从叶利钦时代和巨大的不平等中恢复过来的过程中，因此，它让国防企业守住规矩。
俄罗斯没有多余的钱。它仍然处于从叶利钦时代和巨大的不平等中恢复过来的过程中，因此，它让国防企业守住规矩。
The Su57 is a good example but also the T-14 (Armata) tank, where orders were slashed until the contractor promised to a. reduce costs; b. address performance issues.
苏57是一个很好的例子，T-14 ( 阿玛塔 ) 坦克也是 ，其订单被削减，直到承包商承诺：a. 降低成本；b. 解决性能问题。
苏57是一个很好的例子，T-14 ( 阿玛塔 ) 坦克也是 ，其订单被削减，直到承包商承诺：a. 降低成本；b. 解决性能问题。
Putin made clear that Russia is a developing democracy. In the end, the people will rule, oligarchs or not.
普京明确表示，俄罗斯是一个发展中的民主国家，不管有没有寡头，这个国家都将由人民来统治。
普京明确表示，俄罗斯是一个发展中的民主国家，不管有没有寡头，这个国家都将由人民来统治。
By contrast, the US is an “inverted totalitarian state”, or, if you like a “managed” democracy. It is not really a modern state in germs of governance, since it is defined by an 18th Century constitution and institutions, designed to prevent rather than enable democratic rule. The US loved Yeltsin because his “system” was really theirs.
相比之下，美国是一个“倒置的极权国家”—— 如果你喜欢的话，也可以用“有管理的”民主国家这个说法。
它并不是一个真正的现代国家，因为它是由18世纪的宪法和制度定义的，旨在防止而不是促成民主统治。
美国喜欢叶利钦，因为他的“体制”实际上是他们的。
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相比之下，美国是一个“倒置的极权国家”—— 如果你喜欢的话，也可以用“有管理的”民主国家这个说法。
它并不是一个真正的现代国家，因为它是由18世纪的宪法和制度定义的，旨在防止而不是促成民主统治。
美国喜欢叶利钦，因为他的“体制”实际上是他们的。
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Scaathor
"Most IDF strikes inside Syria seem to have been carried out by F16s, which are faster, carry more ordinance and have the maneuverability to avoid incoming missiles if they detect them early enough."
Untrue. IAF attacks use stand-off missiles fired from either Lebanese airspace or from the Eastern Mediterrean Sea. Their aircraft don't enter Syrian airspace as its now too dangerous.
“多数以色列国防军在叙利亚境内发动的空袭都是由 F16战斗机执行的，这种战斗机速度更快，携带更多的弹药，如果能尽早发现来袭的导弹，以其机动性，可以避开来袭的导弹。”
——这个说法不对，以色列空军攻击使用的是从黎巴嫩领空或东地中海发射的导弹，他们的飞机不能进入叙利亚领空，因为现在太危险了。
"Most IDF strikes inside Syria seem to have been carried out by F16s, which are faster, carry more ordinance and have the maneuverability to avoid incoming missiles if they detect them early enough."
Untrue. IAF attacks use stand-off missiles fired from either Lebanese airspace or from the Eastern Mediterrean Sea. Their aircraft don't enter Syrian airspace as its now too dangerous.
“多数以色列国防军在叙利亚境内发动的空袭都是由 F16战斗机执行的，这种战斗机速度更快，携带更多的弹药，如果能尽早发现来袭的导弹，以其机动性，可以避开来袭的导弹。”
——这个说法不对，以色列空军攻击使用的是从黎巴嫩领空或东地中海发射的导弹，他们的飞机不能进入叙利亚领空，因为现在太危险了。
Jihadi Colin
Right, after a Zionistani F 16 was eliminated by an old Syrian S200 they no longer enter Syrian airspace.
对，一架犹太复国主义份子的F16 被叙利亚老式的 S200 击落后，他们不再进入叙利亚领空。
Right, after a Zionistani F 16 was eliminated by an old Syrian S200 they no longer enter Syrian airspace.
对，一架犹太复国主义份子的F16 被叙利亚老式的 S200 击落后，他们不再进入叙利亚领空。
Jim Allen
F-35 the aircraft that became the poster boy representing "The Sunk Cost Fallacy."
It's like US military is determined to lose the war it's provoking against an alliance of countries US cannot defeat in conventional war.
US has no advantage in using its nukes, any launch of nuclear weapons towards Russia, and/or allies, initiates a counter-attack that is targeting US Strategic Command Centers, ICBM bases, and decision making centers. Russia has it's hypersonic weapons deployed, while US can track these incoming, it has no defense.
The chance Western nukes will reach their targets is slim, given the speed, and accuracy of Russian defenses, the incoming nukes will be intercepted before reaching Russia's border's. Those launched from EU bases.
The West does have it's big military, spread thin worldwide, and at the ends of long lines of communications. Very expensive logistics, and very vulnerable to disruption by enemy action.
The military technology is old much of it not upgradable, eight plus years of deferred maintenance, no replacements for hardware being retired from service, and of the new technology that exists exactly none of it comes close to being serviceable. Unfit for combat, unreliable, continuously breaking down, needing to be towed back to port, for repair. Prone to catching fire, the carrier Ford is still undergoing trials over the next 4 year's, still can't launch aircraft. This is pitiful.
There's no means to manufacture domestically this was moved offshore, last count US has 180(+/-) million unemployed since the 2006 crash. No jobs have returned, these people lost everything, and are dependent on Government assistance for survival. No one in the vicinity of their right mind wants to be dependent on our beloved Government for anything, to be dependent for survival needs is beyond terrifying
F-35这款战机成了"沉没成本谬论 "的典型代表。
看上去美国军队决意要输掉它挑起的战争，而这场战争针对的是美国在常规战争中无法打败的国家的联盟。
美国在使用核武器方面没有任何优势，任何向俄罗斯及其盟友发射核武器的举动，都会引发反击，其目标会是美国的战略指挥中心、洲际弹道导弹基地和决策中心，俄罗斯已经部署了高超音速武器，尽管美国可以跟踪来袭的核弹，但它没有防御能力。
鉴于俄罗斯导弹防御系统的速度和准确度，西方的核武器成功打击目标的可能性很小，核弹在飞抵俄罗斯边境之前就会被拦截。
西方确实拥有庞大的军事力量，但军力稀疏的分散在世界各地，并处于长线通讯的末端，后勤非常昂贵，而且非常容易被敌人的行动所破坏，军事装备已经陈旧，大部分无法升级，八年多的延迟维护期，退役的装备没有替代品，新技术要么完全不存在，要么根本无法使用，有些装备不再适合作战，也不可靠，不断的出现故障，军舰需要拖回港口进行维修，起火事件频频发生，在未来4年的时间里，福特号航母依然必须进行试验，也不能弹射战机，太可怜了。
国内没办法生产，制造业都搬到国外去了，统计显示，自2006年股灾以来，美国累计有约1.8亿人失业。
工作岗位没有回来，这些人失去了一切，靠政府救济生存，没有哪个心智正常的人愿意在任何事情上都依赖我们的政府，为了生存需要而依赖政府是无比可怕的。
F-35 the aircraft that became the poster boy representing "The Sunk Cost Fallacy."
It's like US military is determined to lose the war it's provoking against an alliance of countries US cannot defeat in conventional war.
US has no advantage in using its nukes, any launch of nuclear weapons towards Russia, and/or allies, initiates a counter-attack that is targeting US Strategic Command Centers, ICBM bases, and decision making centers. Russia has it's hypersonic weapons deployed, while US can track these incoming, it has no defense.
The chance Western nukes will reach their targets is slim, given the speed, and accuracy of Russian defenses, the incoming nukes will be intercepted before reaching Russia's border's. Those launched from EU bases.
The West does have it's big military, spread thin worldwide, and at the ends of long lines of communications. Very expensive logistics, and very vulnerable to disruption by enemy action.
The military technology is old much of it not upgradable, eight plus years of deferred maintenance, no replacements for hardware being retired from service, and of the new technology that exists exactly none of it comes close to being serviceable. Unfit for combat, unreliable, continuously breaking down, needing to be towed back to port, for repair. Prone to catching fire, the carrier Ford is still undergoing trials over the next 4 year's, still can't launch aircraft. This is pitiful.
There's no means to manufacture domestically this was moved offshore, last count US has 180(+/-) million unemployed since the 2006 crash. No jobs have returned, these people lost everything, and are dependent on Government assistance for survival. No one in the vicinity of their right mind wants to be dependent on our beloved Government for anything, to be dependent for survival needs is beyond terrifying
F-35这款战机成了"沉没成本谬论 "的典型代表。
看上去美国军队决意要输掉它挑起的战争，而这场战争针对的是美国在常规战争中无法打败的国家的联盟。
美国在使用核武器方面没有任何优势，任何向俄罗斯及其盟友发射核武器的举动，都会引发反击，其目标会是美国的战略指挥中心、洲际弹道导弹基地和决策中心，俄罗斯已经部署了高超音速武器，尽管美国可以跟踪来袭的核弹，但它没有防御能力。
鉴于俄罗斯导弹防御系统的速度和准确度，西方的核武器成功打击目标的可能性很小，核弹在飞抵俄罗斯边境之前就会被拦截。
西方确实拥有庞大的军事力量，但军力稀疏的分散在世界各地，并处于长线通讯的末端，后勤非常昂贵，而且非常容易被敌人的行动所破坏，军事装备已经陈旧，大部分无法升级，八年多的延迟维护期，退役的装备没有替代品，新技术要么完全不存在，要么根本无法使用，有些装备不再适合作战，也不可靠，不断的出现故障，军舰需要拖回港口进行维修，起火事件频频发生，在未来4年的时间里，福特号航母依然必须进行试验，也不能弹射战机，太可怜了。
国内没办法生产，制造业都搬到国外去了，统计显示，自2006年股灾以来，美国累计有约1.8亿人失业。
工作岗位没有回来，这些人失去了一切，靠政府救济生存，没有哪个心智正常的人愿意在任何事情上都依赖我们的政府，为了生存需要而依赖政府是无比可怕的。
Jesus
US has the largest defense budget, by that virtue alone the F35 should be one of the best platforms in the US military....
One Air Force general argued before the congress that the A10 had to be retired to make room for F35 that had superior air to ground capability.
美国拥有全世界最大的国防预算，单凭这一点，F35就应该是美国军队最好的作战平台之一.........
一位空军将领在国会上辩称，A10必须退役，以便为拥有更优越的空对地能力的F35腾出空间。
US has the largest defense budget, by that virtue alone the F35 should be one of the best platforms in the US military....
One Air Force general argued before the congress that the A10 had to be retired to make room for F35 that had superior air to ground capability.
美国拥有全世界最大的国防预算，单凭这一点，F35就应该是美国军队最好的作战平台之一.........
一位空军将领在国会上辩称，A10必须退役，以便为拥有更优越的空对地能力的F35腾出空间。
SnowCatzor
I don't know about the F-35 being too expensive to lose, the F-22 maybe, the B-2 definitely. The fear the F-35 has is that the world will find out it's stealth is overrated if it tries to go into well-defended airspace anytime soon. Then Lock-Mart would lose contracts and it would drive the cost of the aircraft up further. The US 'defence' (offense) industry is purely focused on profit after all.
我不知道F-35算不算太贵，F-22也许有点贵，但 B-2 是肯定贵。
F-35最让人担心的是，如果它试图进入防卫严密的空域，世界很快会发现它的隐身性被高估了，那么洛马就会失去合同，而且会使飞机的成本进一步上升，美国的“国防”（进攻）工业毕竟是纯粹以利润为中心的。
I don't know about the F-35 being too expensive to lose, the F-22 maybe, the B-2 definitely. The fear the F-35 has is that the world will find out it's stealth is overrated if it tries to go into well-defended airspace anytime soon. Then Lock-Mart would lose contracts and it would drive the cost of the aircraft up further. The US 'defence' (offense) industry is purely focused on profit after all.
我不知道F-35算不算太贵，F-22也许有点贵，但 B-2 是肯定贵。
F-35最让人担心的是，如果它试图进入防卫严密的空域，世界很快会发现它的隐身性被高估了，那么洛马就会失去合同，而且会使飞机的成本进一步上升，美国的“国防”（进攻）工业毕竟是纯粹以利润为中心的。
Diana Cornwell
Well, well,
Southfront finally admits in this article that the Syrians have NO CONTROL over the S-300s that the Russians DID NOT GIVE to the Syrians because the Syrians CANNOT USE them.
There was not even a PR nor propaganda reason to fake giving something which doesn't work to one's ally. Therefore, the ONLY REASON the Russians are admitting their perfidy is because it was discovered and leaked to the public. The Russians are trying to rationalize their treachery by suggesting that they have a deal with Israel. Even then the Russians are shooting themselves in the foot because that constitues a glaring admission that the Russians' REAL ALLY is Israel and NOT Syria. How else could the Russians collaborate with the Jews and enable the Israelis to bomb and kill the Syrians with impunity?
Dear friends,
Do you realize that Russia, Israel and NATO in collaboration effectively emptied Syria of its civilized population, with only Assad-administration-friendly forces and their families left, fighting against the depraved Muslim terrorists of ISIS et al?
Putin is collaborating with Erdogan and the Turks to commit GENOCIDE in Syria. Putin and the Russians have BLOCKED the application to the International Criminal Court (ICC) in order to prosecute the Turks' horrible crimes against humanity and genocide which Turkey has committed in Afrin, Syria
好吧好吧，
南方阵线最终在这篇文章中承认，对俄罗斯人给的S300，叙利亚人没有控制权，因为叙利亚人不能使用它们。
俄罗斯人假意给予了一堆对自己的盟友不起作用的东西，甚至连个起码的公关或宣传的理由都欠奉，俄罗斯承认其背信弃义的唯一原因是因为S300被发现并泄露给了公众，俄罗斯人暗示他们与以色列达成了协议，试图为他们的背信弃义找借口。
即便如此，俄罗斯人还是在搬起石头砸自己的脚，因为这显然表明，俄罗斯真正的盟友是以色列，而不是叙利亚，否则俄罗斯人怎么可能与犹太人合作，让以色列人可以不受惩罚地轰炸和杀害叙利亚人 ？
亲爱的朋友,
你是否意识到，俄罗斯、以色列和北约在合作中实际上将叙利亚的文明人口一扫而空，只留下支持阿萨德政府的武装力量及其家人与邪恶的伊斯兰国等穆斯林恐怖分子作战？
普京正在与埃尔多安和土耳其合作，在叙利亚实施种族灭绝，为了阻止土耳其因在叙利亚 Afrin 犯下的可怕的反人类罪和种族灭绝罪而起诉，普京和俄罗斯封锁了国际刑事法院(ICC) 提出的申请。
Well, well,
Southfront finally admits in this article that the Syrians have NO CONTROL over the S-300s that the Russians DID NOT GIVE to the Syrians because the Syrians CANNOT USE them.
There was not even a PR nor propaganda reason to fake giving something which doesn't work to one's ally. Therefore, the ONLY REASON the Russians are admitting their perfidy is because it was discovered and leaked to the public. The Russians are trying to rationalize their treachery by suggesting that they have a deal with Israel. Even then the Russians are shooting themselves in the foot because that constitues a glaring admission that the Russians' REAL ALLY is Israel and NOT Syria. How else could the Russians collaborate with the Jews and enable the Israelis to bomb and kill the Syrians with impunity?
Dear friends,
Do you realize that Russia, Israel and NATO in collaboration effectively emptied Syria of its civilized population, with only Assad-administration-friendly forces and their families left, fighting against the depraved Muslim terrorists of ISIS et al?
Putin is collaborating with Erdogan and the Turks to commit GENOCIDE in Syria. Putin and the Russians have BLOCKED the application to the International Criminal Court (ICC) in order to prosecute the Turks' horrible crimes against humanity and genocide which Turkey has committed in Afrin, Syria
好吧好吧，
南方阵线最终在这篇文章中承认，对俄罗斯人给的S300，叙利亚人没有控制权，因为叙利亚人不能使用它们。
俄罗斯人假意给予了一堆对自己的盟友不起作用的东西，甚至连个起码的公关或宣传的理由都欠奉，俄罗斯承认其背信弃义的唯一原因是因为S300被发现并泄露给了公众，俄罗斯人暗示他们与以色列达成了协议，试图为他们的背信弃义找借口。
即便如此，俄罗斯人还是在搬起石头砸自己的脚，因为这显然表明，俄罗斯真正的盟友是以色列，而不是叙利亚，否则俄罗斯人怎么可能与犹太人合作，让以色列人可以不受惩罚地轰炸和杀害叙利亚人 ？
亲爱的朋友,
你是否意识到，俄罗斯、以色列和北约在合作中实际上将叙利亚的文明人口一扫而空，只留下支持阿萨德政府的武装力量及其家人与邪恶的伊斯兰国等穆斯林恐怖分子作战？
普京正在与埃尔多安和土耳其合作，在叙利亚实施种族灭绝，为了阻止土耳其因在叙利亚 Afrin 犯下的可怕的反人类罪和种族灭绝罪而起诉，普京和俄罗斯封锁了国际刑事法院(ICC) 提出的申请。
Andreas Diana
I have argued that Putin's long-game is to replace the "US" as Israel's protector. Ties between Israel and Russia run very deep. Given the historic blood relations with Russia and the rich intellectual resources of Israel, Putin would only paint himself as an international fool by seeking to alienate or destroy Israel entirely by dealing them a heavy hand.
But this is only problematic for those who do not make a distinction between the Jewish people and the handful of parasitic, sociopaths known as Zionist "Jews" who only seek to serve their own dark interests of power and control.
With the unmistakable power shift going on in the Middle East in conjunction with the unraveling of domestic politics in the "US" and any semblance of national cohesion, it is only a matter of time before the Washington regime is unable to defend Israel's interests and this transition to Russia will begin.
It may be somewhat gradual. But should conditions change too rapidly, we can be sure that contingency plans are already in place to welcome Russian paratroopers onto Israeli soil and for mass evacuations of Israeli citizens to Russia through well defined air corridors. For Jews in Israel nothing is unthinkable.
The real question is whether Russia can check the rabid and toxic influence of the Zionists once this historic transition occurs. If not, it will be Russia's road to ruin, just like the "US".
我曾说过，普京的长期目标是取代“美国”，成为以色列的保护者，以色列和俄罗斯的关系非常深厚，鉴于与俄罗斯历史上的血缘关系，以及以色列丰富的智力资源，通过对以色列采取强硬手段，试图彻底疏远或摧毁以色列，普京只会把自己变成一个国际傻瓜。
但对于那些不区分犹太人和被称为犹太复国主义者的少数寄生的、反社会的“犹太人”的人来说是有问题的，他们只想为自己的权力和控制的黑暗利益服务。
随着中东地区明显的权力转移，以及“美国”国内政治的瓦解，华盛顿政权无力捍卫以色列的利益只是时间问题，这种向俄罗斯的过渡即将开始，这只是一个时间问题。
这可能是渐进的，但是，如果情况变化太快，我们可以肯定，应急计划已经到位，以色列将欢迎俄罗斯伞兵进入以色列领土，并通过明确界定的空中走廊大规模疏散以色列公民到俄罗斯，对于以色列的犹太人来说，没有什么是不可想象的。
真正的问题是，一旦这一历史性的转变发生，俄罗斯能否遏制犹太复国主义者的狂热和有害影响，否则，这将是俄罗斯的毁灭之路，就像“美国”一样。
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I have argued that Putin's long-game is to replace the "US" as Israel's protector. Ties between Israel and Russia run very deep. Given the historic blood relations with Russia and the rich intellectual resources of Israel, Putin would only paint himself as an international fool by seeking to alienate or destroy Israel entirely by dealing them a heavy hand.
But this is only problematic for those who do not make a distinction between the Jewish people and the handful of parasitic, sociopaths known as Zionist "Jews" who only seek to serve their own dark interests of power and control.
With the unmistakable power shift going on in the Middle East in conjunction with the unraveling of domestic politics in the "US" and any semblance of national cohesion, it is only a matter of time before the Washington regime is unable to defend Israel's interests and this transition to Russia will begin.
It may be somewhat gradual. But should conditions change too rapidly, we can be sure that contingency plans are already in place to welcome Russian paratroopers onto Israeli soil and for mass evacuations of Israeli citizens to Russia through well defined air corridors. For Jews in Israel nothing is unthinkable.
The real question is whether Russia can check the rabid and toxic influence of the Zionists once this historic transition occurs. If not, it will be Russia's road to ruin, just like the "US".
我曾说过，普京的长期目标是取代“美国”，成为以色列的保护者，以色列和俄罗斯的关系非常深厚，鉴于与俄罗斯历史上的血缘关系，以及以色列丰富的智力资源，通过对以色列采取强硬手段，试图彻底疏远或摧毁以色列，普京只会把自己变成一个国际傻瓜。
但对于那些不区分犹太人和被称为犹太复国主义者的少数寄生的、反社会的“犹太人”的人来说是有问题的，他们只想为自己的权力和控制的黑暗利益服务。
随着中东地区明显的权力转移，以及“美国”国内政治的瓦解，华盛顿政权无力捍卫以色列的利益只是时间问题，这种向俄罗斯的过渡即将开始，这只是一个时间问题。
这可能是渐进的，但是，如果情况变化太快，我们可以肯定，应急计划已经到位，以色列将欢迎俄罗斯伞兵进入以色列领土，并通过明确界定的空中走廊大规模疏散以色列公民到俄罗斯，对于以色列的犹太人来说，没有什么是不可想象的。
真正的问题是，一旦这一历史性的转变发生，俄罗斯能否遏制犹太复国主义者的狂热和有害影响，否则，这将是俄罗斯的毁灭之路，就像“美国”一样。
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Ashok Varma
US is in decline and its military has always been all Hollywood hype. The F-35 is an unmitigated $2 trillion boondoogle in a unprofessional airforce used to bombing civilians in countries that can't fight back.
美国正在衰落，其军事力量满满的都是好莱坞的炒作，F-35是一款价值2万亿美元的非专业战机，用于轰炸那些无法反击的国家的平民。
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US is in decline and its military has always been all Hollywood hype. The F-35 is an unmitigated $2 trillion boondoogle in a unprofessional airforce used to bombing civilians in countries that can't fight back.
美国正在衰落，其军事力量满满的都是好莱坞的炒作，F-35是一款价值2万亿美元的非专业战机，用于轰炸那些无法反击的国家的平民。
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Jihadi Colin
Did you see that Amerikastan wants to make India join NATO? I doubt even Modi is stupid enough for that.
你没看到美国想让印度加入北约吗? 我怀疑连莫迪都不会蠢到那个地步。
Did you see that Amerikastan wants to make India join NATO? I doubt even Modi is stupid enough for that.
你没看到美国想让印度加入北约吗? 我怀疑连莫迪都不会蠢到那个地步。
Raptar Drive
Modi wouldnt hesitate 2 seconds. Remember India's national sport is cricket......LOL.
莫迪不会犹豫的，记住印度的国民运动是板球...... 哈哈哈.....
Modi wouldnt hesitate 2 seconds. Remember India's national sport is cricket......LOL.
莫迪不会犹豫的，记住印度的国民运动是板球...... 哈哈哈.....
Damien C
Could you imagine the absolute riddicule that would be poured on the F35 by western main stream media if it had been manufactured by Russia?The cartoons in the newspapers alone would have been endless
你能想象假如 F35是俄罗斯制造的，西方主流媒体会把绝对会疯狂吐槽 F35，光是报纸上的漫画就没完没了。
Could you imagine the absolute riddicule that would be poured on the F35 by western main stream media if it had been manufactured by Russia?The cartoons in the newspapers alone would have been endless
你能想象假如 F35是俄罗斯制造的，西方主流媒体会把绝对会疯狂吐槽 F35，光是报纸上的漫画就没完没了。
johnny rotten
A couple of notes that have been well hidden by the fake-media main stream, an American general, one of the few remaining sane, wrote a couple of years ago that the US had lost the missile competition with the Soviets already in the 1950s and it has gotten worse ever since.
When the berlin wall fell the NATO military was able to test and study the Soviet planes of Eastern European nations that passed to the western side, the comments were that Westerners were lucky not to have collided with the Soviets, whose planes clearly outclassed the western ones.
It is for this reason that from industries that have always aimed exclusively at profit instead of product quality, guaranteed profits thanks to political corruption and monopolistic positions, one could not expect I do not say excellence but not even a minimum of efficiency, in fact all the new weapons systems produced or put into service in this century have been colossal failures, except for the MIC industries that have made exaggerated profits, the Fake 35 is just one among many such cases, which respect the same modus fraudulent operands.
有几条信息被虚假主流媒体隐藏得很好，一位美国将军，也是仅存的几个正常人之一，几年前写道，美国在上世纪50年代就已经在与苏联的导弹竞争中败下阵来，此后情况越来越糟。
柏林墙倒塌后，北约军方测试和研究东欧国家的苏联飞机，他们的评论是，西方人很幸运，没有和苏联人撞上，他们的飞机明显比西方人的飞机强。
正是由于这个原因，对于那些总是专注于利润而不是产品质量、由于政治腐败和垄断地位而保证利润的军工企业，我没法指望它们有什么出色表现，甚至不指望它们有最低限度的效率——事实上，除了军工企业获得了夸张的利润，本世纪所有生产或投入使用的新武器系统都是巨大的失败，假F35只是许多这样的案例中的一个，都采用同样的欺诈性操作手法。
A couple of notes that have been well hidden by the fake-media main stream, an American general, one of the few remaining sane, wrote a couple of years ago that the US had lost the missile competition with the Soviets already in the 1950s and it has gotten worse ever since.
When the berlin wall fell the NATO military was able to test and study the Soviet planes of Eastern European nations that passed to the western side, the comments were that Westerners were lucky not to have collided with the Soviets, whose planes clearly outclassed the western ones.
It is for this reason that from industries that have always aimed exclusively at profit instead of product quality, guaranteed profits thanks to political corruption and monopolistic positions, one could not expect I do not say excellence but not even a minimum of efficiency, in fact all the new weapons systems produced or put into service in this century have been colossal failures, except for the MIC industries that have made exaggerated profits, the Fake 35 is just one among many such cases, which respect the same modus fraudulent operands.
有几条信息被虚假主流媒体隐藏得很好，一位美国将军，也是仅存的几个正常人之一，几年前写道，美国在上世纪50年代就已经在与苏联的导弹竞争中败下阵来，此后情况越来越糟。
柏林墙倒塌后，北约军方测试和研究东欧国家的苏联飞机，他们的评论是，西方人很幸运，没有和苏联人撞上，他们的飞机明显比西方人的飞机强。
正是由于这个原因，对于那些总是专注于利润而不是产品质量、由于政治腐败和垄断地位而保证利润的军工企业，我没法指望它们有什么出色表现，甚至不指望它们有最低限度的效率——事实上，除了军工企业获得了夸张的利润，本世纪所有生产或投入使用的新武器系统都是巨大的失败，假F35只是许多这样的案例中的一个，都采用同样的欺诈性操作手法。
farbat
the worlds most expensive kamikaze planes
世界上最昂贵的神风特攻飞机。
the worlds most expensive kamikaze planes
世界上最昂贵的神风特攻飞机。
Jihadi Colin
I love the F35. I hope Amerikastan spends all its money making them!
我喜欢 F35，我希望美利坚斯坦把所有的钱都花在它们身上！
I love the F35. I hope Amerikastan spends all its money making them!
我喜欢 F35，我希望美利坚斯坦把所有的钱都花在它们身上！
Kenny Jones
Looks like Russia won't even need to develop the S-500 anymore
看起来俄罗斯都不需要再开发 S-500了。
Looks like Russia won't even need to develop the S-500 anymore
看起来俄罗斯都不需要再开发 S-500了。
Jesus
This is the state of US MIC, for the last three decades money was spent to the tune of hundreds of billions....and trillions without producing any adequate weapons that are viable. The trend is not going to change in the future as Russia and China press for new technologically advanced weaponry, while US will run its mouth and paint itself into a delusional reality.
这就是美国军事实力的现状，在过去的30年里，我们花了数千亿美元.... 数万亿美元，却没有生产任何足够有效的武器，这一趋势在未来不会改变，因为俄罗斯和中国迫切需要新的、技术先进的武器，而美国将满嘴跑火车，把自己描绘成一个虚幻的现实。
This is the state of US MIC, for the last three decades money was spent to the tune of hundreds of billions....and trillions without producing any adequate weapons that are viable. The trend is not going to change in the future as Russia and China press for new technologically advanced weaponry, while US will run its mouth and paint itself into a delusional reality.
这就是美国军事实力的现状，在过去的30年里，我们花了数千亿美元.... 数万亿美元，却没有生产任何足够有效的武器，这一趋势在未来不会改变，因为俄罗斯和中国迫切需要新的、技术先进的武器，而美国将满嘴跑火车，把自己描绘成一个虚幻的现实。
Bob
Believe it or not, it actually gets worse - the USAF uses F-35A variant - this is the only one of the three F-35 variants that has the 25mm gun located internally, the other two variants hang it on the outside. But when the F-35A fires the internal gun, apart from being unacceptably inaccurate, it actually causes structural damage to the aircraft...!
信不信由你，实际上情况更糟了——美国空军使用的是F-35A改型——这是三种F-35改型中唯一一种将25mm机炮安装在内部的机型，其他两种改型将其外挂在机身上，但是当F-35A内置机炮开火时，除了不可接受的不准确之外，事实上还会对飞机造成结构性损伤 !
Believe it or not, it actually gets worse - the USAF uses F-35A variant - this is the only one of the three F-35 variants that has the 25mm gun located internally, the other two variants hang it on the outside. But when the F-35A fires the internal gun, apart from being unacceptably inaccurate, it actually causes structural damage to the aircraft...!
信不信由你，实际上情况更糟了——美国空军使用的是F-35A改型——这是三种F-35改型中唯一一种将25mm机炮安装在内部的机型，其他两种改型将其外挂在机身上，但是当F-35A内置机炮开火时，除了不可接受的不准确之外，事实上还会对飞机造成结构性损伤 !
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