2022-01-11 翻译熊 5217

Are Europeans shocked when they first come to the United States?


Malcolm Graham
When I was in Phoenix and Tucson about 15 years ago I was surprised to see whole streets where the city had never got round to putting down a surface of any kind on some of the sidewalks. I think it was Tucson. They weren't main streets or side streets, sort of in between. It wasn't really a problem because so few people walked anywhere. There was asphalt roadway, then a kerb, then coarse sand at a much lower level. I came to understand and in some ways admire that approach — they didn't do it because it wasn't needed.
The other thing that surprised me was that many influential people wanted to get the town's bus station out of the city centre because it brought the area down. I understand that, but I don't think we would do that in Europe, because they need to be in or near the centre…
The other thing that surprised me was someone who remarked, about a public library, that it was as 'scary as any other public building’ (or words to that effect), but they were working in it. I understand that too, as the public realm in the UK has deteriorated too with the decline in social spending on mental health and housing. But it surprised me as the public realm isn't considered unsafe in (most of) Europe. I might have got the US a bit wrong here.
The other thing that surprised me was seeing a retailer of expensive art sculpture with a revolver stuck in his back jeans pocket.


Sarita D'Mello
I remember arriving in New York (Newark), and there was a long queue at pasport/border control. When I was mid way in the queue, I needed to go to the loo. Rather than lose my place, I clenched my pelvic muscles but hopped from one foot to the next. The border control policeman kept staring at me, maybe he thought I was acting suspicious. I tried to ignore him, and when I approached the passport desk, he whispered something to the clerk. My passport and I were taken to Customs and Excise. I told them I desperately needed the loo and was escorted and watched whilst I had a pee. My luggage and bags were thoroughly checked and I was body searched. It was an experience I never want to go through again, so now I make sure that on the long walks to passport control, when I see the toilet sign I go to the loo whether I want to or not.


Ian Fleming
Holland has a little over 2000 sq miles of land to maintain, the U.S. has a little over 3.5 million sq miles, so maintenance of infrastructure is on a different level all together. On top of that much of the U.S. has annual winter conditions not seen in Holland since the last ice age, and summer temps rarely seen in Holland. Minneapolis for example can be as cold as -35 deg f (-37 C) and as warm as 100 deg f. (38 C) Those temperature fluctuations play hell with infrastructure.
As a green card holder I never had a problem with border guards, and as l kept nose clean my only interactions with police have been traffic violations, and in that I’ve see no difference between English police and American, police, both have the attitude “I am the dog, you are the sheep, be respectful and do what you’re told or I will hurt you”. Americans may have guns, but English police have truncheons, and know how to use them!

作为一名绿卡持有者,我从来没有和边境警卫有过冲突,而且我一直洁身自好,所以我和警察唯一的接触就是交通违规。我觉得英国警察和美国警察没有什么区别,两者的态度都是“我是狗,你是羊,要尊重别人,按照别人说的做,否则我会伤害你”。 美国人也许有枪,但英国警察有警棍,而且知道怎么用!

Robert Smith
You don’t say where you flew into specifically, I am curious why? You do realize that there are far more people of varying types that live in the USA than the Netherlands? Far more people, more roads, more by a longshot infrastructure to take care of. Some areas are way too far behind and others are just fine. Some areas of this country can lay down a road and never have to touch it again, others have to do yearly maintenance just to keep them drivable mostly because of weather and traffic. While I find what you say to be partially true, I have to wonder where you landed and why the security people were so rude? You do realize how many people would like to blow something up in America, right? How many people have blown something up or shot something up around here right? Yet you wonder why cops and security are a little standoffish to you? Like I said, I have to wonder where you landed and when and whether or not you were doing as you were supposed to. There is a pandemic going on, people are on edge right now everywhere. Having a little respect for that goes a long way. If only 2 things shocked you when you got here for the first time, then you didn’t go very far!

虽然我发现你说的部分是对的,但我不得不怀疑你是在哪里,为什么安保人员这么粗鲁?你知道在美国有多少人想要破坏什么东西吗? 有多少人在这里破坏什么东西或者开枪打了什么东西。你想知道为什么警察和安保对你有点冷淡吗?就像我说的,我想知道你是在哪里着陆的,什么时候着陆的,还有你是否在做你应该做的事。

D Mg
The worst thing for me has to be the false friendliness and loudness. Why are these people so loud and overstated? I lived in the U.S for 2 years, but just couldn't stand it any more. Also, those high-pitched, squealing female voices and accents drove me to the brink of insanity.


Richard VanDyk
I think you forgot one Ronald. Did you ever visit a Walmart particularly in a retirement State like FL? EVERY Dutch person I know, no matter their age, income, or education level has the EXACT same reaction upon entering the store. They stop cold in their tracks, do a double take, point, and start stammering, “What, what IS that old person doing there” in reference to one of the many workers over 70 who look frail and can barely stand up. I wonder if these elderly workers are Republican voters proud of not living in a socialistic country with a social safety net and enjoy working at a place like that in their advanced age? Only in America. Be sure to put that on your bucket list next time Ronald.

我想知道这些老年工人是否为没有生活在一个有社会保障的社会主义国家而感到自豪,并在他们年老时享受在这样的地方工作? 只有在美国才会发生这样的事。

Jeremy Carmichael
The fuel (petrol) tax is supposed to take care of the roads but they steal the money to go to other projects. The cops are more often than not bullied kids that decide that they will get their revenge so they go to a short course, get a job and can’t wait to punk someone out. Not all of them are like this but most that I’ve seen are. I watched a video earlier of a Hispanic young man that followed all of the officers rules but was scared to roll his window all the way down. The cop asked why he was acting so shady and he said it was for his safety. The cop laughed at him like he has nothing to worry about and said “your safety”. Like cops don’t shoot people every day for no reason. I live in the US and don’t trust the cops. They’re on an ego power trip and think your life doesn’t matter as long as they get home to their family each night. All civilians are scumbag people that break the law. I care more about me getting home safely at night to my family. That’s human nature.


Tracy Dungee
Well you are lucky that you didn't get injured or sick. You would be appalled at the bill you would receive from the hospital.


Ronald Van Bakel
Well, given I live in what some Americans call a communist country, my universal healthcare policy and my cheap travel insurance (100 euro’s per year for the entire family) would have covered that bill without any discussion. :)


The big thing which shocked me was that I saw loaded weapons lying around with the saferty OFF, any kid could have picked up those weapons and fired a shot. Amazing! This was in Ohio.


Karol Rembiałkowski
So true and totally related to my personal experience. First time in Netherlands, police stopped me just to tell me my rear light went off. They were really polite and wished a nice visit to the town i was in (if I remember well it was in Wageningen). Don't won't to recall my first contact with police in LA… It was like: don't move, searching my car etc. So yeah US officers should take a lesson or two from Dutch counterparts.


Heather Goddard
I can vouch for the border security at Schipol Airport as very polite, helpful and understanding.


Brady Ball
The big problem with roads is the freeze thaw cycle. A professor did a study and found that the latitude at Pittsburgh, PA is the worst for that problem. I doubt that you have that much trouble in Holland with that.


Mark Burn
But Norway Sweden don't have any problem with potholes I remember when I lived in Norway I was surprised that the roads some of which are as far north as the north of Alaska had no potholes at all! My cousin explained that building roads even in the south of Norway was very expensive and required the foundations to go down over 2 meters ( nearly 7 feet) because otherwise the frost would cause potholes and cracking when it thawed


Bill Milam
The older I get, the more I wish I lived in Europe. The Congress of this country and most state's leadership are humiliating. How we can not have national healthcare is criminal. I mean it actually is. The only people who chest thump about how great this country is hasn't been anywhere else. Maybe once, but not now. Even China has better roads and infrastructure now, by and large, than the US.


Ernest Murphy
Glad you got to see and experience the real America that millions of Americans pretend not to see because everybody knows the USA is the greatest country on earth. (It actually used to be a pretty good country, believe it or not.) Making our corporate gangsters even wealthier and letting everybody have a gun are what is important now. Also do not believe the libtards who say we have a housing affordability crisis. You can buy a reasonably good tent (made in you-know-where) for fifty bucks at Walmart. As you can see on our urban sidewalks, many of us enjoy camping int the great outdoors.


Nicola Stachurski
Love your humour, are you sure you aren’t an Aussie?

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Ernest Murphy
At one time I thought about moving to Australia, a country I admire hugely. But I didn’t. They don’t want Americans unless they are brain surgeons, rich investors or married to Australians. Vegemite and monstrously huge spiders also influenced my decision.


Zhen Li
It really depends on where you go.
I lived in New York, Ohio, and Indiana, areas with some of the worst pothole problems in my opinion. When I lived in New York, it just seemed that I-95 was always terrible, despite the ever-increasing tolls they’ve collected over the years.
However, roads are for the most part fine in Washington, Oregon, California, Montana, Colorado, Wyoming, Idaho, Texas, Mississippi, Alabama, and Georgia, etc.


Michael Dietel
huh? fine in california? have you actually been here?! it's like driving off road most of the time! our roads are trash.


Zhen Li
I visited OC a couple of years ago and am going back next month. Don’t recall seeing any signs of disrepair, let alone potholes.
Now, parts of San Francisco might be a different story. I remember Oakland area was pretty bad. But then 101 all the way up to northern California was fine. That was 9 years ago. Bottom line: it depends on where you are. Cali is a big state.


Michael Dietel
I grew up in OC, so I know the area well. That is a bit of a wealth bubble in the southern part, less so in the northern part bordering LA. Unless you are in particularly wealthy areas, I would stand by my observation. All the big cities are mostly falling apart infrastructurally, unless you are in specific areas. It's really bad.


Alen Milakovic
All Americans behave like they are important. That’s part of the culture. Modesty is not a thing here.
So what you had is a culture shock.

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Ben Andrews
We joke in snowy states, that there are two seasons: winter, and road work. It's an endless battle.


Jeff Butcher
I agree we suck but Los Angeles alone probably has more roads than the Netherlands We have over 640,000 km and 64000 km of highways alone. It takes A lot of money to maintain the roads that our government feels could be better spent on things like nuclear weapons and the coolest fighter jets money can buy.


David Craig
“If Dutch police officers would behave like that, they would be considered unfit for the job.” I can explain that last part. It seems that far too many police officers here are unfit for the job, but they are kept on anyway.


Charlotte Neumann
And they get ridiculously short training. In the Netherlands it isn’t all that easy to get into the police academy, even apart from the fact that you can’t get in if you’re lowly educated. Then, you train for something like 3 years.
But 3 years of training is again money that (right wing) Americans don’t want to spend.


Malcolm Castlemaine
In fairness, it is a very large country with a considerable number of roads. Indeed, Europeans often forget that in much of America the roads came before the cities. Indeed, there are many roads built on landscapes that roads should probably not be built upon - reclaimed swampland, earthquake-prone zones, certain types of clay, etc.
With that many more roads to deal with, and with their being used so frequently.. necessarily the wear and tear is higher.
It doesn't excuse the lack of funds and effort, but it does help partially explain why quite so many roads are in constant disrepair.