日本在2021年接收了74名难民，创历史新高
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TOKYO (Kyodo) -- Japan granted refugee status to 74 people seeking asylum in 2021, the highest level since it began recognizing refugees in 1982, the immigration agency said Friday.
东京（共同社）——日本移民局周五表示，日本在2021年向74名寻求庇护的人授予了难民身份，这是自1982年开始承认难民以来的最高水平。
TOKYO (Kyodo) -- Japan granted refugee status to 74 people seeking asylum in 2021, the highest level since it began recognizing refugees in 1982, the immigration agency said Friday.
东京（共同社）——日本移民局周五表示，日本在2021年向74名寻求庇护的人授予了难民身份，这是自1982年开始承认难民以来的最高水平。
While the number jumped from 27 in 2020, it remains significantly lower than in the West, where some countries accept more than 10,000 refugees annually.
虽然数量从2020年的27人增加了不少，但仍远低于西方国家，一些国家每年接收1万多名难民。
虽然数量从2020年的27人增加了不少，但仍远低于西方国家，一些国家每年接收1万多名难民。
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swordtech
"72.....73.....74..... alright, that's enough, we're not running a charity over here!"
“72…73…74…好了，够了，我们这不是做慈善的！”
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"72.....73.....74..... alright, that's enough, we're not running a charity over here!"
“72…73…74…好了，够了，我们这不是做慈善的！”
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retired-penguin
It looks like something, but why does it feel like it's more insulting than if it were zero...
为什么感觉这个数字比零更侮辱人……
It looks like something, but why does it feel like it's more insulting than if it were zero...
为什么感觉这个数字比零更侮辱人……
Yotsubato
Because it is.
Zero would mean they just can’t do it
70 is showing that they can do it and choose not to
因为就是。零意味着他们做不了，70意味着他们能做但选择不做。
Because it is.
Zero would mean they just can’t do it
70 is showing that they can do it and choose not to
因为就是。零意味着他们做不了，70意味着他们能做但选择不做。
tky_phoenix
A couple of years ago during the Syrian refugee crisis, Japan accepted something like 27 refugees (something under 30) out of roughly 5000 applicants if I remember correctly. Germany took in 1 MILLION refugees. (Granted, that led to a lot of backlash in Germany)
如果我没记，几年前叙利亚难民危机期间，日本在大约5000申请者中接收了好像27名难民（总之少于30）. 德国接收了100万难民（当然，这在德国引起了很大的抵制）。
A couple of years ago during the Syrian refugee crisis, Japan accepted something like 27 refugees (something under 30) out of roughly 5000 applicants if I remember correctly. Germany took in 1 MILLION refugees. (Granted, that led to a lot of backlash in Germany)
如果我没记，几年前叙利亚难民危机期间，日本在大约5000申请者中接收了好像27名难民（总之少于30）. 德国接收了100万难民（当然，这在德国引起了很大的抵制）。
Imperial_12345
I could understand why Japan wouldn’t take that many refugee and I really wouldn’t blame them.
我能理解日本不接收那么多难民的原因，我真的不怪他们。
I could understand why Japan wouldn’t take that many refugee and I really wouldn’t blame them.
我能理解日本不接收那么多难民的原因，我真的不怪他们。
tky_phoenix
Obviously, there's a massive spectrum from "under 30" like Japan and roughly 1M like Germany. Under 30 with over 5,000 applications though seems a bit low. As one of the leading economies in the world, does Japan not have a moral responsibility?
很明显，像日本这样“不到30人”和德国这样大约100万人之间的差距很大。超过5000份申请只批准了不到30人，这似乎有点低。作为世界领先的经济体之一，日本难道没有一点道德责任吗？
Obviously, there's a massive spectrum from "under 30" like Japan and roughly 1M like Germany. Under 30 with over 5,000 applications though seems a bit low. As one of the leading economies in the world, does Japan not have a moral responsibility?
很明显，像日本这样“不到30人”和德国这样大约100万人之间的差距很大。超过5000份申请只批准了不到30人，这似乎有点低。作为世界领先的经济体之一，日本难道没有一点道德责任吗？
Figurineweeboo
What are you smoking ? Japan had already gave the most humantarian aid among all asian country , despite on the refugee crisis is going on on europe especially germany and france. Japan government had their own right to put their country and the citizen benefits at the first place.
你什么毛病？日本已经是所有亚洲国家里提供了最多人道援助的国家了，而难民危机正在欧洲特别是德国和法国上演。日本政府有权利把国家和人民的利益放在首位。
What are you smoking ? Japan had already gave the most humantarian aid among all asian country , despite on the refugee crisis is going on on europe especially germany and france. Japan government had their own right to put their country and the citizen benefits at the first place.
你什么毛病？日本已经是所有亚洲国家里提供了最多人道援助的国家了，而难民危机正在欧洲特别是德国和法国上演。日本政府有权利把国家和人民的利益放在首位。
tky_phoenix
Sure but it’s not like Germany and France didn’t give anything. They gave humanitarian aid AND accepted refugees. All I’m saying is Japan could have probably been a bit more accepting. The population is shrinking and over aging. The country needs foreigners either way.
当然，但德国和法国并不是什么都都没提供。他们提供了人道援助并接收难民。我要表达的是，日本可以接收更多一点。他们的人口正在萎缩并且过度老龄化。不管怎样，这个国家都需要外国人。
Sure but it’s not like Germany and France didn’t give anything. They gave humanitarian aid AND accepted refugees. All I’m saying is Japan could have probably been a bit more accepting. The population is shrinking and over aging. The country needs foreigners either way.
当然，但德国和法国并不是什么都都没提供。他们提供了人道援助并接收难民。我要表达的是，日本可以接收更多一点。他们的人口正在萎缩并且过度老龄化。不管怎样，这个国家都需要外国人。
Reijikageyama
They do. But the critical issue is what *type* of foreigners, from where and of what quality/caliber. They want people who don't look too different, scary or big, i.e. Asian, they want people who are literate in Kanji scxt, and hardworking to fill in all the jobs that Japanese don't wanna do. They want obedient foreigners who obey Japanese law to the letter.
They -don't- want people raping their women/children, stealing their stuff, fighting their law enforcement officers, rioting and wrecking public/private property and failing to integrate to complex Japanese social norms and customs.
是的，但关键是什么样的外国人，来自哪里，素质、能力如何。他们想要的是看起来差异没那么大，不太吓人或太大块的，也就是亚洲人，他们想要的是会日本汉字的人，能吃苦耐劳地完成日本人不想做的工作。他们想要绝对遵守日本法律的、顺从的外国人。
他们不希望有人强奸他们的妇女儿童，盗窃物品，与执法人员斗殴，暴乱和破坏公共、私人财产，不希望他们不融入复杂的日本社会规范和习俗。
They do. But the critical issue is what *type* of foreigners, from where and of what quality/caliber. They want people who don't look too different, scary or big, i.e. Asian, they want people who are literate in Kanji scxt, and hardworking to fill in all the jobs that Japanese don't wanna do. They want obedient foreigners who obey Japanese law to the letter.
They -don't- want people raping their women/children, stealing their stuff, fighting their law enforcement officers, rioting and wrecking public/private property and failing to integrate to complex Japanese social norms and customs.
是的，但关键是什么样的外国人，来自哪里，素质、能力如何。他们想要的是看起来差异没那么大，不太吓人或太大块的，也就是亚洲人，他们想要的是会日本汉字的人，能吃苦耐劳地完成日本人不想做的工作。他们想要绝对遵守日本法律的、顺从的外国人。
他们不希望有人强奸他们的妇女儿童，盗窃物品，与执法人员斗殴，暴乱和破坏公共、私人财产，不希望他们不融入复杂的日本社会规范和习俗。
tky_phoenix
I'm sure no country is keen on bringing in rapists and criminials. It's just a slippery slope to assume everyone who looks different is automatically a criminal. There are enough Japanese criminals too and I have yet to see a study that proves that foreigners are more likely to commit crimes.
The refugees from Ukraine are well educated and a lot of them speak English - certainly much better than the average Japanese.
Japan also needs people who can do the jobs that the Japanese cannot do due to lack of skills or experience. There's a reason there are so many foreigners in IT for example. The local talent pool is too limited in terms of quality and quantity.
There are enough foreigners - including many in this sub - who managed to learn the Japanese language and get accustomed to the local culture.
So, yeah, no country wants any criminals but simply painting all foreigners with a broad brush because they cannot read kanji is a dangerous oversimplification.
我确信没有哪个国家想要引进强奸犯和罪犯。把所有看起来不同的人都自动假设为罪犯，这是错误的。日本罪犯也很多，我还没有看到过哪项研究证明外国人更容易犯罪。
来自乌克兰的难民受过良好的教育，他们中的很多人都会说英语——比普通日本人还要好。
有些工作，日本人由于缺乏技能或经验而无法从事，日本也需要这些人。例如，IT 行业有这么多外国人是有原因的。当地人才库在质量和数量上都过于有限。
有很多的外国人——包括这这个版块中的很多人——努力学习日语，习惯当地文化。
所以是的，没有哪个国家想要罪犯，但仅仅因为外国人不会日本汉字就把他们都打上一个标签，这是一种危险的过度简化。
I'm sure no country is keen on bringing in rapists and criminials. It's just a slippery slope to assume everyone who looks different is automatically a criminal. There are enough Japanese criminals too and I have yet to see a study that proves that foreigners are more likely to commit crimes.
The refugees from Ukraine are well educated and a lot of them speak English - certainly much better than the average Japanese.
Japan also needs people who can do the jobs that the Japanese cannot do due to lack of skills or experience. There's a reason there are so many foreigners in IT for example. The local talent pool is too limited in terms of quality and quantity.
There are enough foreigners - including many in this sub - who managed to learn the Japanese language and get accustomed to the local culture.
So, yeah, no country wants any criminals but simply painting all foreigners with a broad brush because they cannot read kanji is a dangerous oversimplification.
我确信没有哪个国家想要引进强奸犯和罪犯。把所有看起来不同的人都自动假设为罪犯，这是错误的。日本罪犯也很多，我还没有看到过哪项研究证明外国人更容易犯罪。
来自乌克兰的难民受过良好的教育，他们中的很多人都会说英语——比普通日本人还要好。
有些工作，日本人由于缺乏技能或经验而无法从事，日本也需要这些人。例如，IT 行业有这么多外国人是有原因的。当地人才库在质量和数量上都过于有限。
有很多的外国人——包括这这个版块中的很多人——努力学习日语，习惯当地文化。
所以是的，没有哪个国家想要罪犯，但仅仅因为外国人不会日本汉字就把他们都打上一个标签，这是一种危险的过度简化。
Reijikageyama
Now you are talking about the refugees from Ukraine but before that you were referencing the Middle East refugee crisis where we saw millions flood into Germany, France, Sweden and Western and Northern Europe as a whole.
I don't think Japan views these 2 groups of refugees equally, if their actions tell us anything.
Also, the mass rioting during the Turkish elections in Tokyo where Japanese policemen got hurt, and what happened in Cologne, Germany on New Year's Eve, gave the Japanese a foretaste of what would ensue if they had opened the floodgates for refugees.
In a span of 2 months, Japan took in over 600 Ukrainian 'evacuees', more than the total number of refugees from the Middle East and Africa over a decade from 2010-2020. Shows us what they think of them refugees compared to the Ukrainians.
As for lack of IT talent, labor shortage, lack of English ability, shrinking workforce, yada yada, all of these are true. But how the Japanese people or their government plans to address this, or whether they do plan to even address it at all, is probably not how you envision it. It's definitely not "Let's take in more refugees!"
现在你说的是乌克兰难民，但之前你说的是中东难民危机，数百万人涌入德国、法国、瑞典以及整个西欧和北欧。
如果他们的行为表明了什么的话，我认为日本对这两组难民的看法并不等同。
此外，在土耳其选举期间发生的大规模骚乱中，东京日本的警察被打了，以及新年前夜在德国科隆发生的事件，让日本人知道，如果他们为难民打开大门，将会发生什么样的结果。
在两个月的时间里，日本接收了600多名乌克兰“撤离者”， 超过了2010-2020年十年间来自中东和非洲的难民总数。这向我们表明了，与乌克兰人相比，他们对这些难民的看法。
至于缺少IT人才、缺少劳动力、缺乏英语能力、劳动力萎缩等，这些都是事实。但日本人和政府打算如何解决这个问题，或者他们是否真的打算解决这个问题，可能跟你想的不一样，绝对不是“让我们接收更多难民！”
Now you are talking about the refugees from Ukraine but before that you were referencing the Middle East refugee crisis where we saw millions flood into Germany, France, Sweden and Western and Northern Europe as a whole.
I don't think Japan views these 2 groups of refugees equally, if their actions tell us anything.
Also, the mass rioting during the Turkish elections in Tokyo where Japanese policemen got hurt, and what happened in Cologne, Germany on New Year's Eve, gave the Japanese a foretaste of what would ensue if they had opened the floodgates for refugees.
In a span of 2 months, Japan took in over 600 Ukrainian 'evacuees', more than the total number of refugees from the Middle East and Africa over a decade from 2010-2020. Shows us what they think of them refugees compared to the Ukrainians.
As for lack of IT talent, labor shortage, lack of English ability, shrinking workforce, yada yada, all of these are true. But how the Japanese people or their government plans to address this, or whether they do plan to even address it at all, is probably not how you envision it. It's definitely not "Let's take in more refugees!"
现在你说的是乌克兰难民，但之前你说的是中东难民危机，数百万人涌入德国、法国、瑞典以及整个西欧和北欧。
如果他们的行为表明了什么的话，我认为日本对这两组难民的看法并不等同。
此外，在土耳其选举期间发生的大规模骚乱中，东京日本的警察被打了，以及新年前夜在德国科隆发生的事件，让日本人知道，如果他们为难民打开大门，将会发生什么样的结果。
在两个月的时间里，日本接收了600多名乌克兰“撤离者”， 超过了2010-2020年十年间来自中东和非洲的难民总数。这向我们表明了，与乌克兰人相比，他们对这些难民的看法。
至于缺少IT人才、缺少劳动力、缺乏英语能力、劳动力萎缩等，这些都是事实。但日本人和政府打算如何解决这个问题，或者他们是否真的打算解决这个问题，可能跟你想的不一样，绝对不是“让我们接收更多难民！”
tky_phoenix
You are correct. The two groups are very different. And the high number of refugees in Germany for example certainly led to issues. No one is asking Japan to take in a million refugees over night.
I am happy that Japan took in Ukrainian refugees this time. What I'm concerned about is the "we are a homogenous society and can't/don't want foreigners. Japan is special/unique" rhetoric. It is dangerous and simply not true. Japan has unique aspects to it just like any other society, too. So far I have not seen any clear strategy how the government is trying to address the issue of a shrinking population.
你说得对。这两个群体非常区别很大。就像德国的太多难民会引发问题。不过没人会要求日本在一夜之间就接纳100万难民。
我很高兴日本这次接纳了乌克兰难民。我担心的是“我们是个同质社会，不能也不想要外国人。日本是特别的、独特的”这种想法。这很危险，而且根本不是事实。日本有其独特的一面，但其他国家也有。到目前为止，我还没有看到政府试图解决人口减少这个问题的明确策略。
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You are correct. The two groups are very different. And the high number of refugees in Germany for example certainly led to issues. No one is asking Japan to take in a million refugees over night.
I am happy that Japan took in Ukrainian refugees this time. What I'm concerned about is the "we are a homogenous society and can't/don't want foreigners. Japan is special/unique" rhetoric. It is dangerous and simply not true. Japan has unique aspects to it just like any other society, too. So far I have not seen any clear strategy how the government is trying to address the issue of a shrinking population.
你说得对。这两个群体非常区别很大。就像德国的太多难民会引发问题。不过没人会要求日本在一夜之间就接纳100万难民。
我很高兴日本这次接纳了乌克兰难民。我担心的是“我们是个同质社会，不能也不想要外国人。日本是特别的、独特的”这种想法。这很危险，而且根本不是事实。日本有其独特的一面，但其他国家也有。到目前为止，我还没有看到政府试图解决人口减少这个问题的明确策略。
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ShonanBlue
There are many foreigners who’ve learned Japanese but equally as many foreigners who can barely speak a lick and god forbid read or write.
I’ve worked within a company that specializes in hiring foreigners including those on refugee status. Not a single refugee could speak Japanese beyond a 自己紹介 in my one year there and I’ve met plenty. God forbid even asking them to read Japanese.
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There are many foreigners who’ve learned Japanese but equally as many foreigners who can barely speak a lick and god forbid read or write.
I’ve worked within a company that specializes in hiring foreigners including those on refugee status. Not a single refugee could speak Japanese beyond a 自己紹介 in my one year there and I’ve met plenty. God forbid even asking them to read Japanese.
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Education is a privilege that unfortunately not everyone can get and must refugees aren’t immediately afforded the luxury to go to a language school here.
There’s some truth that Japan is much harder to assimilate to than a place like America whether that be due to language reasons or even reasons of religion.
有许多外国人学过日语，但还有同样多的外国人几乎不会读写。
我曾在一家专门招聘外国人的公司工作，在那里一年，我遇到了很多人，他们除了自我介绍外，没有一个人能说日语。
不幸的是，教育是一种特权，不是每个人都能享受到的，难民们也无法奢侈的立即在这里上语言学校。
事实上，日本比美国更难同化，无论是由于语言原因还是宗教原因。
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There’s some truth that Japan is much harder to assimilate to than a place like America whether that be due to language reasons or even reasons of religion.
有许多外国人学过日语，但还有同样多的外国人几乎不会读写。
我曾在一家专门招聘外国人的公司工作，在那里一年，我遇到了很多人，他们除了自我介绍外，没有一个人能说日语。
不幸的是，教育是一种特权，不是每个人都能享受到的，难民们也无法奢侈的立即在这里上语言学校。
事实上，日本比美国更难同化，无论是由于语言原因还是宗教原因。
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sunjay140
they want people who are literate in Kanji scxt
So only Chinese and Taiwanese people? Few Taiwanese will move to Japan.
“他们想要的是会日本汉字的人”
那就是只要中国（大陆）人和台湾人吗？很少有台湾人会搬到日本。
they want people who are literate in Kanji scxt
So only Chinese and Taiwanese people? Few Taiwanese will move to Japan.
“他们想要的是会日本汉字的人”
那就是只要中国（大陆）人和台湾人吗？很少有台湾人会搬到日本。
Reijikageyama
And Korean. And whoever else happens to display the capacity to learn and retain Kanji knowledge. Which I doubt the run-of-the-mill refugee would be able to.
Few Taiwanese will move to Japan.
I think that's only because Taiwan is relatively small in population, like 23 mil or so, similar to Australia. Or else we would be seeing more of them here.
还有韩国人，和那些有能力学习和记住日本汉字的人。我怀疑普通难民很难做到。
“很少有台湾人会搬到日本”
我认为这因为台湾的人口相对较少，只有大约2300万，和澳大利亚差不多。不然的话我们会看到更多的台湾人搬去的。
And Korean. And whoever else happens to display the capacity to learn and retain Kanji knowledge. Which I doubt the run-of-the-mill refugee would be able to.
Few Taiwanese will move to Japan.
I think that's only because Taiwan is relatively small in population, like 23 mil or so, similar to Australia. Or else we would be seeing more of them here.
还有韩国人，和那些有能力学习和记住日本汉字的人。我怀疑普通难民很难做到。
“很少有台湾人会搬到日本”
我认为这因为台湾的人口相对较少，只有大约2300万，和澳大利亚差不多。不然的话我们会看到更多的台湾人搬去的。
sunjay140
Koreans don't know kanji. They use their own scxt.
Few Koreans and Taiwanese care to move to Japan and it has nothing to do with the population size.
Research shows that emigration from a country slows down once a country hits $5,000 GDP per capita and sharply decreases when a country hits $10,000 GDP per capita.
If Japan only wants immigrants from Taiwan, Korea and China, that's a basically an elaborate way of saying that Japanese doesn't want any immigrants since few people from these country would move to Japan in the first place.
Furthermore, the population of Korea is already in decline and they're badly in need of immigrants. You can't expect a serious stream of immigrants from a country with a declining population.
韩国人不会汉字。他们用自己的文字。
很少有韩国人和台湾人愿意搬到日本，这与人口规模无关。
研究显示，当一个国家的人均GDP达到5000美元时，往外移民就会变慢，当人均GDP达到10000美元时，往外移民更是大大减少。
如果日本只想要台湾（地区）、韩国和中国的移民，那基本上就是在委婉地表示不想要移民，因为这些国家（地区）的人本就很少会搬到日本。
另外，韩国的人口已经在下降了，他们非常的需要移民。你不能指望一个人口不断降低的国家会有大批移民涌入。
Koreans don't know kanji. They use their own scxt.
Few Koreans and Taiwanese care to move to Japan and it has nothing to do with the population size.
Research shows that emigration from a country slows down once a country hits $5,000 GDP per capita and sharply decreases when a country hits $10,000 GDP per capita.
If Japan only wants immigrants from Taiwan, Korea and China, that's a basically an elaborate way of saying that Japanese doesn't want any immigrants since few people from these country would move to Japan in the first place.
Furthermore, the population of Korea is already in decline and they're badly in need of immigrants. You can't expect a serious stream of immigrants from a country with a declining population.
韩国人不会汉字。他们用自己的文字。
很少有韩国人和台湾人愿意搬到日本，这与人口规模无关。
研究显示，当一个国家的人均GDP达到5000美元时，往外移民就会变慢，当人均GDP达到10000美元时，往外移民更是大大减少。
如果日本只想要台湾（地区）、韩国和中国的移民，那基本上就是在委婉地表示不想要移民，因为这些国家（地区）的人本就很少会搬到日本。
另外，韩国的人口已经在下降了，他们非常的需要移民。你不能指望一个人口不断降低的国家会有大批移民涌入。
dorian_gray11
Granted, that led to a lot of backlash in Germany
Still was the right thing to do.
“当然，这在德国引起了很大的抵制”
但这仍然是正确的做法。
Granted, that led to a lot of backlash in Germany
Still was the right thing to do.
“当然，这在德国引起了很大的抵制”
但这仍然是正确的做法。
tky_phoenix
Generally, yes but not sure if it had to be 1 million.
What I generally don't understand is, where is all the money coming from to accommodate the refugees? Or now with countries giving hundreds of millions of dollars to Ukraine. It's not like they had the money sitting in the bank. If they had that much money available, could they not use if for other issues they are facing at home? In the US that could include infrastructure (remember the insanely poor water quality in Flint, Michigan?), healthcare etc.
大体来说是的，但不确定是否必须是100万。
我不理解的是，安置难民的钱是从哪里来的？现在一些国家向乌克兰提供了不少钱，他们又不是把钱存在银行里。如果他们有那么多钱，难道不能用来解决在国内面临的其他问题吗？比如在美国，包括基础设施（还记得密歇根州弗林特极其糟糕的水质吗？），医疗等。
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Generally, yes but not sure if it had to be 1 million.
What I generally don't understand is, where is all the money coming from to accommodate the refugees? Or now with countries giving hundreds of millions of dollars to Ukraine. It's not like they had the money sitting in the bank. If they had that much money available, could they not use if for other issues they are facing at home? In the US that could include infrastructure (remember the insanely poor water quality in Flint, Michigan?), healthcare etc.
大体来说是的，但不确定是否必须是100万。
我不理解的是，安置难民的钱是从哪里来的？现在一些国家向乌克兰提供了不少钱，他们又不是把钱存在银行里。如果他们有那么多钱，难道不能用来解决在国内面临的其他问题吗？比如在美国，包括基础设施（还记得密歇根州弗林特极其糟糕的水质吗？），医疗等。
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the_booty_grabber
Basically, in the west we are bombarded with people saying diversity is our strength and it helps grow the countries economy. If you complain about mass immigration however, the narrative quickly changes to how we deserve it for are forefathers colonising sins lol.
在西方，人们铺天盖地的说多样性是我们的优势，它有助于发展国家经济。如果你抱怨大规模移民，叙事很快就会变，变成因为祖先的殖民罪孽使得我们活该，哈哈。
Basically, in the west we are bombarded with people saying diversity is our strength and it helps grow the countries economy. If you complain about mass immigration however, the narrative quickly changes to how we deserve it for are forefathers colonising sins lol.
在西方，人们铺天盖地的说多样性是我们的优势，它有助于发展国家经济。如果你抱怨大规模移民，叙事很快就会变，变成因为祖先的殖民罪孽使得我们活该，哈哈。
Hanzai_Podcast
Maybe Japan thinks it more sensible to accept numbers which won't spark domestic backlash.
也许日本认为，接受不会引发国内抵制的数量更明智。
Maybe Japan thinks it more sensible to accept numbers which won't spark domestic backlash.
也许日本认为，接受不会引发国内抵制的数量更明智。
Ottieriez
It’s 74 more than they’re obligated to take in.
这比他们接纳的义务多了74个。
It’s 74 more than they’re obligated to take in.
这比他们接纳的义务多了74个。
Hanzai_Podcast
Maybe Japan could start a GoFundMe where all these non-Japanese people indignant that Japan isn't accepting refugees could kick in the money to resettle and support the refugees. Then Japan would have no excuse. Why, I bet those people would contribute millions and millions of their own dollars toward this!
也许日本可以办一个众筹平台，让所有对日本不接收难民感到愤怒的非日本人投入资金安置和支持难民。这样日本就没有借口了。我敢打赌那些人会为此出很多钱。
Maybe Japan could start a GoFundMe where all these non-Japanese people indignant that Japan isn't accepting refugees could kick in the money to resettle and support the refugees. Then Japan would have no excuse. Why, I bet those people would contribute millions and millions of their own dollars toward this!
也许日本可以办一个众筹平台，让所有对日本不接收难民感到愤怒的非日本人投入资金安置和支持难民。这样日本就没有借口了。我敢打赌那些人会为此出很多钱。
Ottieriez
If the new American/European way of life wasn’t “get everything for free from mommy government “ I might agree. It’s not fair if they have to pay for it
如果美国、欧洲的新生活方式不是“从政府妈妈哪里免费获得一切”， 我可能会同意。如果他们必须为此出钱，这是不公平的。
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If the new American/European way of life wasn’t “get everything for free from mommy government “ I might agree. It’s not fair if they have to pay for it
如果美国、欧洲的新生活方式不是“从政府妈妈哪里免费获得一切”， 我可能会同意。如果他们必须为此出钱，这是不公平的。
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Hanzai_Podcast
Yes, it's much easier when they're being generous with somebody else's money.
是的，如果是慷他人之慨，这就容易多了。
Yes, it's much easier when they're being generous with somebody else's money.
是的，如果是慷他人之慨，这就容易多了。
ilArmato
I'm sure you like roads.
我确定你喜欢公路。
I'm sure you like roads.
我确定你喜欢公路。
Ottieriez
Roads aren’t free, they’re paid for through taxes. Pretty high ones at that.
公路不是免费的，它们通过税收来支付，还很高。
Roads aren’t free, they’re paid for through taxes. Pretty high ones at that.
公路不是免费的，它们通过税收来支付，还很高。
ilArmato
Same for foreign aid.
对外援助也是一样啊
Same for foreign aid.
对外援助也是一样啊
Ottieriez
So building roads for the use of taxpayers, which is the proper use of tax funds = using tax funds to send overseas to others who the country has no obligation towards and who do not contribute to the community?
So if you use your money to renovate your kitchen, are you going to send money to the guy down the street so they can fix up their own kitchen?
建设公路来给纳税人使用，是合理使用税金，而用税金送给其它国家、送给没有义务和对社区没有贡献的其他人？
如果你打算用你的钱来装修厨房，你会把钱送给接上的人，让他去装修他们自己的厨房吗？
So building roads for the use of taxpayers, which is the proper use of tax funds = using tax funds to send overseas to others who the country has no obligation towards and who do not contribute to the community?
So if you use your money to renovate your kitchen, are you going to send money to the guy down the street so they can fix up their own kitchen?
建设公路来给纳税人使用，是合理使用税金，而用税金送给其它国家、送给没有义务和对社区没有贡献的其他人？
如果你打算用你的钱来装修厨房，你会把钱送给接上的人，让他去装修他们自己的厨房吗？
ilArmato
Why, I bet those people would contribute millions and millions of their own dollars toward this!
People do exactly that when they vote for politicians that are in favor of foreign aid programs, as opposed to more isolationist parties that believe their country comes first above all others.
“我敢打赌那些人会为此出很多钱”
当人们投票给那些支持对外援助项目的政客时，他们就是这么做的，而不是投给那些认为自己的国家高于其它国家的孤立主义政党。
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Why, I bet those people would contribute millions and millions of their own dollars toward this!
People do exactly that when they vote for politicians that are in favor of foreign aid programs, as opposed to more isolationist parties that believe their country comes first above all others.
“我敢打赌那些人会为此出很多钱”
当人们投票给那些支持对外援助项目的政客时，他们就是这么做的，而不是投给那些认为自己的国家高于其它国家的孤立主义政党。
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Hanzai_Podcast
Another point missed by you....
I'm talking about all the people here who neither vote in Japanese elections nor pay a single yen in Japanese taxes yet still think they have a say in how Japanese tax money is spent.
你又错了一点，我们这里说的人，他们既没有在日本选举中投票，也没有缴纳一日元的税，但他们仍然认为对日本税款的使用有发言权。
Another point missed by you....
I'm talking about all the people here who neither vote in Japanese elections nor pay a single yen in Japanese taxes yet still think they have a say in how Japanese tax money is spent.
你又错了一点，我们这里说的人，他们既没有在日本选举中投票，也没有缴纳一日元的税，但他们仍然认为对日本税款的使用有发言权。
megazen
Japan also had 1.73 million foreign workers in 2021 which is almost double compared to a decade ago. If the low birthrates continue then 4 million are needed by 2040.
2021年，日本也有173万外国工人，几乎是十年前的两倍。如果低出生率持续下去，那么到2040年，他们需要400万外国工人。
Japan also had 1.73 million foreign workers in 2021 which is almost double compared to a decade ago. If the low birthrates continue then 4 million are needed by 2040.
2021年，日本也有173万外国工人，几乎是十年前的两倍。如果低出生率持续下去，那么到2040年，他们需要400万外国工人。
redsterXVI
Switzerland has over 2 million foreign workers, even though it's massively smaller than Japan. That's 25% of Switzerland's population. And that's on top of Switzerland having a much higher naturalization rate.
So not sure what your point here is.
瑞士有超过200万外国工人，它还比日本小得多。这是瑞士人口的25%。而且日本的入籍率比瑞士高得多。
我不确定你要表达的意思是什么。
Switzerland has over 2 million foreign workers, even though it's massively smaller than Japan. That's 25% of Switzerland's population. And that's on top of Switzerland having a much higher naturalization rate.
So not sure what your point here is.
瑞士有超过200万外国工人，它还比日本小得多。这是瑞士人口的25%。而且日本的入籍率比瑞士高得多。
我不确定你要表达的意思是什么。
TheBigBloke
What has foreign workers got to do with refugees?
外国工人和难民有什么关系？
What has foreign workers got to do with refugees?
外国工人和难民有什么关系？
Hanzai_Podcast
They jockey against each other for the limited number of chairs at the Immigration office.
他们在移民局争夺有限的名额。
They jockey against each other for the limited number of chairs at the Immigration office.
他们在移民局争夺有限的名额。
sylsau
Sometimes it is less insulting to stick to a zero refugee policy that is historically applied, rather than to announce such a ridiculous number that is in total bad faith.
有时，坚持一直以来实行的零难民政策，比宣布这样一个完全不诚实的荒谬数量的侮辱性更小。
Sometimes it is less insulting to stick to a zero refugee policy that is historically applied, rather than to announce such a ridiculous number that is in total bad faith.
有时，坚持一直以来实行的零难民政策，比宣布这样一个完全不诚实的荒谬数量的侮辱性更小。
[dexed]
They cherrypick people with high degrees which is why the number is that low. Those are more likely to integrate and contribute to society.
他们挑选高学历的人，这就是数量这么少的原因。这些人更有可能融入社会并做出贡献。
They cherrypick people with high degrees which is why the number is that low. Those are more likely to integrate and contribute to society.
他们挑选高学历的人，这就是数量这么少的原因。这些人更有可能融入社会并做出贡献。
SaxumJB
As the Japanese pat themselves on the back for being one of the worst G20 countries possibly even the worsr in the entire fucken world.
日本是最糟糕的G20国家之一，甚至可能是世界上最糟糕的国家之一，而日本人却沾沾自喜。
As the Japanese pat themselves on the back for being one of the worst G20 countries possibly even the worsr in the entire fucken world.
日本是最糟糕的G20国家之一，甚至可能是世界上最糟糕的国家之一，而日本人却沾沾自喜。
TityNDolla
Why are they so bad, genuinely curiouse
为什么他们这么糟糕，我很好奇
Why are they so bad, genuinely curiouse
为什么他们这么糟糕，我很好奇
Jasmine1742
Mostly the racism. It's hard to constantly think you're superior to everyone else but also every foreigner's mere existence is a threat to your entire culture but somehow many Japanese people genuinely think that.
I've been looking to leave since watching the dumpster fire of how they treated immigration and foreigners during covid.
主要是种族主义。很难做到一直认为自己比其他人优秀、并认为所有外国人的存在对自己的文化都是一种威胁，但不知为什么，许多日本人真的是这么认为的。
自从看到他们在疫情期间对待移民和外国人的方式后，我一直想离开。
Mostly the racism. It's hard to constantly think you're superior to everyone else but also every foreigner's mere existence is a threat to your entire culture but somehow many Japanese people genuinely think that.
I've been looking to leave since watching the dumpster fire of how they treated immigration and foreigners during covid.
主要是种族主义。很难做到一直认为自己比其他人优秀、并认为所有外国人的存在对自己的文化都是一种威胁，但不知为什么，许多日本人真的是这么认为的。
自从看到他们在疫情期间对待移民和外国人的方式后，我一直想离开。
Kanuman07
They don't want to be charity case like France and all the European countries, culture got destroyed and sky high crime rate
他们不想成为像法国和欧洲国家那样的慈善机构，那些国家文化被破坏，犯罪率极高。
They don't want to be charity case like France and all the European countries, culture got destroyed and sky high crime rate
他们不想成为像法国和欧洲国家那样的慈善机构，那些国家文化被破坏，犯罪率极高。
Orkaad
Japan's foreign aid is huge.
They don't completely ignore other countries.
日本对外援助很多。
他们并没有完全忽视其他国家。
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Japan's foreign aid is huge.
They don't completely ignore other countries.
日本对外援助很多。
他们并没有完全忽视其他国家。
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SaxumJB
You make me laugh. Canada gives more and japan is over 3 times larger. Go away.
你在逗我笑。加拿大给的更多，是日本的3倍多。滚。
You make me laugh. Canada gives more and japan is over 3 times larger. Go away.
你在逗我笑。加拿大给的更多，是日本的3倍多。滚。
Orkaad
Japan's official development assistance (ODA) stood at US$16.3 billion in 2020 (current prices), making Japan the fourth-largest Organisation for Economic Co-operation and Development (OECD) Donor Assistance Committee (DAC) donor country in absolute terms and the largest in Asia. ODA represents 0.31% of Japan's gross national income (GNI).
Canada is the eighth-largest donor country on the Organisation for Economic Co-operation and Development’s (OECD) Development Assistance Committee (DAC). In 2020, Canada spent US$5.0 billion (current prices, according to OECD preliminary data) or 0.31% of the country’s gross national income (GNI) on official development assistance (ODA).
2020年，日本的官方发展援助（ODA）为163亿美元，让日本成为经济合作与发展组织（OECD）捐助援助委员会（DAC）的第四大绝对捐助国，也是亚洲最大的捐助国。ODA占日本国民总收入的0.31%。
加拿大是经济合作与发展组织捐助援助委员会的第八大捐助国。2020年，加拿大在官方发展援助（ODA）上花费了50亿美元，为国民总收入的0.31%。
Japan's official development assistance (ODA) stood at US$16.3 billion in 2020 (current prices), making Japan the fourth-largest Organisation for Economic Co-operation and Development (OECD) Donor Assistance Committee (DAC) donor country in absolute terms and the largest in Asia. ODA represents 0.31% of Japan's gross national income (GNI).
Canada is the eighth-largest donor country on the Organisation for Economic Co-operation and Development’s (OECD) Development Assistance Committee (DAC). In 2020, Canada spent US$5.0 billion (current prices, according to OECD preliminary data) or 0.31% of the country’s gross national income (GNI) on official development assistance (ODA).
2020年，日本的官方发展援助（ODA）为163亿美元，让日本成为经济合作与发展组织（OECD）捐助援助委员会（DAC）的第四大绝对捐助国，也是亚洲最大的捐助国。ODA占日本国民总收入的0.31%。
加拿大是经济合作与发展组织捐助援助委员会的第八大捐助国。2020年，加拿大在官方发展援助（ODA）上花费了50亿美元，为国民总收入的0.31%。
gotwired
lol. Crickets...Looks like he went away.
哈哈，看来他滚了。
lol. Crickets...Looks like he went away.
哈哈，看来他滚了。
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