网友讨论:新加坡VS马来西亚,经济对比
2022-07-10 地平线123 14060
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网友讨论:新加坡VS马来西亚,经济对比

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MY Ordinary
Both countries have improved economically and socially since independence. However, Singapore did well than Malaysia thanks to their efficient government.

自独立以来,马来西亚和新加坡都取得了经济和社会进步。但新加坡的表现要比马来西亚好,这得益于新加坡政府的高效。

Cooper
Main difference in policies is Malaysia managed through affirmative action (privileged based on racial), and other through meritocracy (equal opportunity). That’s why many talented Malaysians would work in Singapore.

两国的政策差异主要在于马来西亚是通过推行平权行动(基于种族的特权)来进行治理,而新加坡是通过任人唯贤(机会平等)。这就是为什么会有那么多有才华的马来西亚人到新加坡工作的原因。

Johari Endan
Not anymore! Malaysians do not want to work in Singapore if they can bcos of the discriminatory policy of paying Malaysian graduates less than others.
The real fact is ethnic Chinese is always favored in Singapore over others.

如果可以的话,马来西亚人已经不想到新加坡工作了,因为新加坡对马来西亚毕业生有歧视性的政策,他们的工资要比其他人更低。事实上,在新加坡华人总是比其他人更受欢迎。

CY T
@Johari Endan Malaysians are paid less in Sg because their employers have to pay extra levy to the government. So in the end, the amount that an employer pays for local and foreigner is almost the same. In fact, foreigner can be more expensive after including other expenses... but I'd say in general Malaysian workers are more hardworking and stay longer in the company at least in F&B

在新加坡马来西亚人的工资更低是因为他们的雇主必须向政府缴纳额外的税款。所以最后雇主给当地人和外国人支付的工资几乎是一样的。事实上,算上其他的费用,外国人的用工成本或许更贵。但我想说,总体上,马来西亚工人工作更加努力,在公司呆的时间也会更长,至少是在餐饮行业。
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Lam Par
Small island nation 1: has a 'clean & efficient' government , 2: doesn't has a royal monarchy dictate its state's affair in the back ground, 3: highly competitive & forward looking economy policy, 4: a strictly rule of law nation, etc.....

新加坡是一个小岛国家:1有着廉洁高效的政府,2背后没有一个皇室在决定国家事务,3实行高度竞争和前瞻性的经济政策,4严格的法治国家等

Kenny Lee
Singapore has nothing but Singaporeans who work hard and were hungry to survive at that time in 1965. Singapore has been blessed with a good government under LKY.

在1965年新加坡除了努力工作忍饥挨饿的人民以外什么都没有。幸运的是,在李光耀的领导下,新加坡有了一个非常不错的政府。

MingZ
However, msia is getting worse everyday under those rulers we have.. even Thailand or Indonesia are gonna surpass us soon

然而,在多届领导人的统治下,马来西亚的情况每况愈下,甚至连泰国或印尼很快都要超过我们了

Karma Bites Hard
@MingZ read the economic reports...malaysia is already heading to the bottom..RM is weakening against Baht and Rupiah...too much corruption and greedy politicians..Indonesia will be the new economic power in the region and supported by Singapore, Asia’s Switzerland. Heck, Vietnam and Myanmar’s growth surpasses Malaysia and their infra is improving day by day

看经济报告就知道,马来西亚已经跌倒了谷底,马来西亚货币对泰铢和印尼卢比持续走弱,马来西亚腐败严重,政客非常贪婪,印尼会成为该地区新的经济大国,并会得到亚洲瑞士新加坡的支持。而且越南和缅甸的发展也超过了马来西亚,他们的基础设施正在日益改善。

Easyly1953
The gap between the 2 will continue to widen with worsening corruption, and racial based policies

马来西亚国内腐败情况日益恶化并且该国还实行了种族主义政策,因此未来新加坡和马来西亚的差距还会不断拉大

Quakespear Shatters
Malaysia is a country full of potential, and I hope that they can grow rich economically, eradicate poverty and inequality.

马来西亚是一个充满潜力的国家,我希望他们经济上可以富裕起来,消除贫困和不平等。

Peter Lee
not with the current system.

在目前的制度下是不可能的

Karma Bites Hard
Delusional dream...haha

这就是妄想,哈哈

LC
The separation was a Blessing in disguise.

新马分裂是因祸得福

Johari Endan
Singapore was expelled out of Malaysia for the good of both countries.

为了两国的利益,马来西亚将新加坡踢了出去

KeoNz
@Johari Endan for the good of both countries? Imagine Malaysia now if LKY really became the PM of Malaysia .

为了两国的利益?想想看如果李光耀真个成为了马来西亚的总理的话,现在马来西亚会是怎么样的一个国家。

Johari Endan
Look at the Chinese in Malaysia and those in Singapore. Who are actually in better position?

看看在马来西亚和新加坡的华人,哪个国家的华人地位更高?

KeoNz
@Johari Endan Singapore? Hence I said both MY and SG would have been better well off if LKY became PM of Malaysia?

新加坡?所以我才说如果李光耀成为马来西亚的总理,马来西亚和新加坡才能过得更好。

Adren Fu
@Johari Endan i would say malay is in the better position in malaysia and chinese and malay is treated equally in singapore.

我觉得马来人在马来西亚的地位更高,而在新加坡不管是马来人还是华人,他们都是平等的

Johari Endan
@Adren Fu How old are you? You don’t know how Malays were discriminated in Singapore. The govt built a drain in front of my late grandfather’s house and he had to pay for the construction. LKY Govt stored American bombs nearby scaring all Malay residents. The bombs were for America during the Vietnam war.

你年纪有多大?你不知道新加坡是如何歧视马来人的。政府在我已故祖父的房子前修建排水沟,但却要我祖父支付这笔建设费用。李光耀政府还在马来居民区附件储存美国人的炸弹,这吓坏了所有的马来居民。这些炸弹是越南战争期间为美国准备的

Adren Fu
@Johari Endan , do you know malays that decided to in singapore during the seperation have better government support in terms of education and etc...but those chinese decided to back to malaysia were treated as second class citizen which is a fact and also in singapore as long you are capable and rich you can buy property not limited to skin color and race but in malaysia is another story.

你知不知道,在新马分裂的时候,决定留在新加坡的马来人在教育等方面是可以得到政府更好的补助的。但决定回到马来西亚的华人却像二等公民一样被人对待,这是事实,而在新加坡,只要你有能力,有钱,不管你是什么肤色,什么种族,都可以买到房子,但在马来西亚却完全不是这样。

Johari Endan
@KeoNz If LKY became PM, Malaysia would be Chinesesia! with 70% Chinese population! He definitely can do it!
You don’t know young man! Malays were expelled from Singapore! We know exactly how LKY expelled Malays.

如果李光耀真的成为了马来西亚总理,那么马来西亚将会变成“华人西亚”(Chinesesia),华人人口将会达到70%,李光耀绝对会这样做
你什么都不知道,年轻人。新加坡把马来西亚赶了出去。我们都知道李光耀是如何驱赶马来人的。

KeoNz
@Johari Endan yes sure, anything could be a hypothesis if it didn't happen.
I disagree with your view that Malaysia would be "Chinessia". My hypothesis is that Malaysia will be a very wealthy country on par with the current America / China as one of the top economies of the world if LKY became PM.

没有发生的事情怎么假设都可以。我不同意你说的马来西亚会变成“华人西亚”的观点。我认为如果李光耀成为马来西亚总理,马来西亚将会成为一个非常富裕的国家,会成为一个可以和中美并驾齐驱的世界最强经济体之一。

halifi sarif
@Johari Endan bullshit! the malays were never expelled! my late grandparents were originally from Indonesia. they came to SG in the 1950s. when SG was separated from MY in 1965. the SG govts did all they can to convince the SG malays and my late grandparents to stay. and i can never thank my late grandparents enough for their wise decision.

你真是在胡说八道。新加坡从来没有驱赶过马来人。我已故的祖父母来自于印尼。他们在上世纪50年代来到新加坡。当1965年新加坡从马来西亚分离出去时,新加坡政府竭尽所能说服在新加坡的马来人和我已故的祖父母留在新加坡。我对我已故的祖父母的明智决定感激不已。

KeoNz
everybody knows Chinese and Indians in Malaysia are treated as 2nd class.

所有人都知道华人和印度裔在马来西亚就是二等公民。

Yong Keat Tan
@Johari Endan in Malaysia malay is everything above other races, education got quata , house 15% discount, what other races get? Singapore fair to all of each citizen regardless of race

在马来西亚,马来人的地位要高于其他种族,教育有配额,房子有15%的折扣,其他种族有什么?而在新加坡所有种族一律平等。

Annoyed Cat
@KeoNz If LKY became PM, Malaysia would've been another Chinese province

如果李光耀成为马来西亚总理,马来西亚将会成为中国的一个省

KeoNz
@Annoyed Cat lol what nonsense, I don't see Singapore becoming a Chinese province?

哈哈真是无稽之谈,难道新加坡现在是中国的一个省吗?

Ratata JK
Lol. Remember that Singapore was the main city of Malaysia before the exit. All the developments and investments was focus on that city (country). Singapore already developed even before exit. On the other hand, after Singapore quit, Malaysia chose Kuala Lumpur.

哈哈,要知道在退出马来联邦之前,新加坡就已经是马来西亚的一个大城市了。所有的发展和投资都集中在了新加坡。甚至早在退出马来联邦之前,新加坡就已经发展起来了。另一方面,在新加坡退出后,马来西亚选择发展吉隆坡

Lam Par
One has political leaders that focus solely in developing their country since independence , while the other one has leaders continue play racial issue since independence.

一个国家的政治领导人自独立以来一直专注于发展国家,而另一个国家的领导人自独立以来一直玩弄种族议题。
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Lam Par
Singapore and Malaysia is going to have continued big gap in term of economical growth , it is unlikely for M'sia to catch up on S'pore.

新加坡和马来西亚在经济发展方面将继续存在巨大的差距,马来西亚不可能追上新加坡

Shaun Lee
I wonder if the author of this video has been to Malaysia and Singapore. What cannot be disputed is that both countries have nade significant progress in the last 50 years. However, Singapore has progressed way beyond Malaysia. At the point of separation in 1965, Malaysia had most of the ingredients to grow and prosper i.e. land, resources such as rubber, tin mines, later on palm oil and petroleum etc. Yet, it was Singapore that pushed ahead, becoming a high income country, ranking 7th in the world on a GDP per capita (nominal) basis in 2020. Innovation, meritocracy and a culture that rewards hard wiork counts for more than resources.

我想知道视频作者是否去过马来西亚和新加坡。两国在过去五十年取得了重大的进步,这是不可否认的。但新加坡的发展要远超马来西亚。在1965年新马分裂时,马来西亚几乎拥有发展繁荣的所有要素,比如土地和资源(如橡胶,锡矿和后期发现的棕榈油和石油等)。但新加坡却迎头赶上,成为了高收入国家,2020年新加坡名义人均gdp排名世界第七。创新,精英制度,和奖励勤劳工作的文化要比资源更加重要。

Baybars Kencana Pawana
Despite what others might claim, Malaysia did achieve significant accomplishments. GDP per capita on PPP basis is USD 29,340 which is on par with Croatia, Oman and Russia. Malaysia Human Development Index is in Very High group, 810. Despite having abundance of natural resources, Malaysia has largely escape the natural resource curse that plague other resource rich nations like in Africa. Malaysia has successfully diversified its economy. By number of exports, Malaysia is at number 28 out of 172 countries Since 1965, the only countries to have overtaken Malaysia in GDP per capita in East Asia is Korea and Taiwan.

不管别人怎么说,马来西亚确实取得了重大成就。马来西亚的人均gdp达到了29340美元(按照购买力平价计算),和克罗地亚,阿曼俄罗斯相当。马来西亚人类发展指数非常高,为0.810。尽管拥有丰富的自然资源,但马来西亚在很大程度上摆脱了困扰非洲等其他资源丰富国家的自然资源诅咒。马来西亚成功实现了经济的多元化。按出口规模来算,马来西亚在172个国家中可以排在第28名。自1965年以来,东亚地区唯一在人均gdp上超过马来西亚的只有韩国和台湾地区

nabila shukri
but China GDP per capita is 14k compared to malaysia 12k..why can China move so fast while we are still stuck at the same place since 10 years ago

但中国的人均gdp是14000美元,马来西亚是12000美元。为什么中国可以发展的那么快,而我们的人均GDP十年来一直动都不动。

Baybars Kencana Pawana
@nabila shukri compared to nominal GDP per capita the GDP per capita on PPP basis is more accurate.

和名义gdp相比,购买力平价gdp更加准确

nabila shukri
@Baybars Kencana Pawana China will become high income nation next year..how about Malaysia..we still the same.

中国明年就要成为高收入国家了,马来西亚呢?我们依然还是和过去一样。

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