话题讨论:萨尔瓦多10天内逮捕6000名黑帮成员,引发NGO不满
2022-07-12 碧波荡漾恒河水 14351
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El Salvador has continued its crackdown on what officials are calling a war on gangs as the government has arrested 6,000 gang members in response to a killing spree in March. The rise in gang violence caused a countrywide state of emergency, but advocates claim some of the the efforts are creating a frxwork for abuse.

为了回应3月份的一波杀人事件热潮,萨尔瓦多继续打击帮派——官员们称之为“向帮派开战”——该国政府已经逮捕6000名帮派成员。帮派暴力的上升导致该国全国进入紧急状态,但倡议者称,该行动的一些做法正在为虐待行为形成框架。

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Benji le
Finally a person with the balls to stand up to these criminals.

终于有人勇敢地面对这些罪犯了。

S.A
not really, this number is small... not to mention the prisons are overrun w them

不完全是,这个数字很小……更别提监狱里已经充斥着罪犯了。

unnamed715
@S.A Welp, in that case, it's time to fire up old sparky!

@S.A 好了,既然这样,是时候让古老的电椅闪起来了!

Ramon Grech
@unnamed715 you mean electric chair?

@unnamed715 你是说电椅?

Kokoro
@Ramon Grech he's gonna go get the thing from clash royale

@Ramon Grech 他要去皇室战争搞到那东西。

? ?
@S.A use those harvesters the farmers use

@S.A 用农民用的那些收割机。

Marie J
I belive the rest of the citizens get enough sleep now.

我相信其他市民可以好好睡觉了。

EDWIN SV
EL SALVADOR IS A SOVEREIGN FREE COUNTRY. THE UNITED STATES AND THE COUNTRIES OF THE INTERNATIONAL COMMUNITY DEFENDERS OF GANGS AND TERRORISTS SHOULD NOT INTERFERE IN OUR INTERNAL POLITICS ''?

萨尔瓦多是一个自由的主权国家。美国以及国际社会中维护帮派和恐怖分子的那些国家不应该干涉我们的内政。

dro
@Ramon Grech no he means old sparky

@Ramon Grech 不,他说的是电椅。

Melanie Cotterell
Maybe 6000 is a small %.? The ones not arrested will have to behave or their 6000 homies won't get dinner.

也许6000人只占一小部分。但那些没有被逮捕的人得乖乖听话,否则他们的那六千兄弟就没饭吃了。

?
This dude got balls. Rare to see someone stand up against international bodies who seem to prefer protecting the people who break the law over law abiding citizens.

这家伙有种。国际机构似乎更喜欢保护违反法律的人,而不是遵纪守法的公民,但很少有人站出来反对这些机构。

Chris
These so called criminals are innocent in my eyes, let them go and destroy our money driven society, sell drugs , steal and destroy. It’s a shame they’ve been caught, they are all valuable

这些所谓的罪犯在我看来是无辜的,让他们去摧毁我们这个金钱驱动的社会吧,去贩卖毒品,偷窃和破坏吧。真可惜他们被抓了,他们都很有价值。

?
@Chris sheesh

@Chris 难以置信。

?
@Chris chill

@Chris 冷静点。

Chris
@? not unchilled , think about if you were one of those criminals in a poor area , makes you think instead of judging , think about it

@? 我很冷静,想一想,如果你是某个贫困地区的罪犯之一,这会让你开始思考,而不是妄加评判,想想吧。

?¢
probly a gang boss himself.

他可能自己就是个黑帮老大。

?
@?¢ I'll admit that is a possibility

@?¢ 我承认有这种可能。

Ronan Mahaffey
Love to see someone who finally cares more about his citizens rather than the criminals.

很高兴看到有人终于更关心公民而不是罪犯了。

Alforest
Surely they would try to help them get out of poverty then to stop them needing to join gangs in the first place?

他们肯定会首先帮助公民摆脱贫困,然后阻止后者加入帮派?

lr lrs
@Alforest You must have missed the earlier comments where they said family members were chased down and killed because they would not join the gang.

@Alforest 你一定错过了早些时候的评论,他们说因为自己不加入帮派而导致家人被追杀。
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AFG-Akajan PUBG
@Alforest poverty is not a reason for being criminals and murderers. I have been in poverty too but never tried doing crimes or hurting others for a living. These gangs and gangsters really need harsher punishment. Putting them in jail with free meals is a heaven. They must be put to hard works to learn how to make a living.

@Alforest 贫穷不是成为罪犯和杀人犯的理由。我也曾贫穷过,但从未试图犯罪或伤害他人为生。这些帮派和歹徒确实需要更严厉的惩罚。把他们关进监狱,让他们吃免费的饭,那简直就是天堂。必须让他们从事辛苦的工作,他们才能学会如何谋生。

Warwick dawg
@AFG-Akajan PUBG I mean, that's just you. Just because you didn't do any crimes doesn't mean the others didn't as well

@AFG-Akajan PUBG 我想说,你只能代表你自己。你没犯罪不代表其他人也没犯罪。

AFG-Akajan PUBG
@Warwick dawg not just me there is millions of poor people make a living with honest and fair work. Life is short man, you don’t need to be absolute wealthy to live. Many people are happy to have something to eat with their families. What are you on that “just you” ?

@Warwick dawg 不只是我,还有数以百万计的穷人靠诚实而公平的工作谋生。生命是短暂的,你不需要绝对富有才能活下去。许多人都很高兴能和家人一起吃东西。你那句"只有你"是在说什么 ?

JStuff
Gang members: " They can't arrest us all"
Police: " Challenge Accepted"

帮派成员:“他们总不能把我们都抓起来吧。”
警察:“接受挑战。”

Gary King
Don't worry about the cops. worry about the good people with guns

别担心警察,担心那些持枪的好人。

Cj
@Gary King what you mean bruh?

@Gary King 你说的什么鬼啊?
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hamsacc
@Ryan Trott it's a joke bruh

@Ryan Trott 笑话罢了。

HP+
@Gary King whaaaa?

@Gary King 啥玩意?

I'm Disappointed
@Ryan Trott Boomer Spotted

@Ryan Trott 这里有个傻逼。

Richards Family
What will they do with them now?
Send them to America.
Remember... Biden gets 10%

他们会怎么处理那些罪犯呢?
把他们送去美国。
记住……一成归拜登。

F C
There's a lot more than 6k and frankly some of those are probably not gang members

帮派成员远不止6000,而且老实说,其中一些可能不是帮派成员。
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Chris Toph
Mad respect to this president… he’s writing the textbook for other countries to use to save their countries from corruption

我是这个总统的脑残粉……他的做法就像教科书,可以教导其他国家如何将自己拯救出腐败的泥潭。

Alex Williams
What a legend

多么经典。

Datgaspuffa
This shows you that you can stand up to the forces of evil you can make a change even being one person especially if you’re the leader of a country. Leaders around the world should take notice

这告诉我们,我们可以对抗邪恶力量,即便只有一个人,也能做出改变,尤其是如果你是一国领导人。全世界的领导人都应该注意到这一点。

Zach Mcewen
This isn't abuse, this is justice. You sometimes have to go extreme in order to truly turn a country around and end gang violence.

这不是虐待,而是正义。要想真正改变一个国家,结束帮派暴力,有时必须走极端。

Aladino cave
You do know some of these people out of 6,000s are innocent

你知道那6000人之中有些人是无辜的。

SkyhawkAnimates
@Tyler Clark it's opposite day

@Tyler Clark 你就爱唱反调是吧。

westcoastlife4show
@Tyler Clark where do you live in a the fairly tale land

@Tyler Clark 你生活在什么幻想世界啊。

David K
@Roger Guerra vote for Bernie

@Roger Guerra 给伯尼投票吧。

Ryan Braud
@Tyler Clark Are you from a first world country? These are hardened criminals that don't answer to anything less than brute force. Under Bukele the homicide rate is continuing to decrease.

@Tyler Clark 你来自第一世界国家吗?这些都是惯犯,除了暴力,他们什么都不做。而在布克尔治下,他杀率持续下降。

iSplash3s
@Aladino cave it gets to a point when enough is enough. Imagine having to find evidence for each individual gang member which is in the thousands.

@Aladino cave 已经到了适可而止的时候。想象一下,必须为每个黑帮成员找到证据是多大的工作量,他们成千上万。

DarkFamiliarity
I'm sorry but this is not justice, it's your sense of self righteousness. They stripped 6k people from having a lawyer.
Justice is equity, no more no less.

不好意思,但这不是正义,而是你的自以为是。他们剥夺了6000人找律师的权利。
正义就是公平,不多不少。

Juan Sanchez
@DarkFamiliarity Stop imposing American values onto other countries. We respect your way of doing things, but it isn’t the only way of doing things. You can’t say that everybody deserves a lawyer like it’s an obxtive fact, you merely think it is because it’s all you know.

@DarkFamiliarity 不要把美国的价值观强加给其他国家。我们尊重你们的做事方式,但这不是唯一的做事方式。你不能说每个人都配请律师,就好像这是客观事实一样,只是你认为这是客观事实,因为你只知道这些。
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swe san
Whether it's right or wrong, It's somewhat relieving to see a decisive action during these days.

无论对错,这些天看到的果断行动多少会让人松一口气。

Miguel Salgado
I think it’s right tbh these thugs don’t care about the general public why should we!

我认为这是对的,老实说,这些暴徒不关心公众,我们为什么要关心他们!

Vintage Motorcycle Repair
They need to do it in Baltimore, Atlanta, Houston, Chicago, LA, and New York.

他们需要在巴尔的摩、亚特兰大、休斯顿、芝加哥、洛杉矶和纽约采取这种行动。

Leon Hauptmann
@Miguel Salgado "Left or right, I'm pro-violence" - Yukio Mishima

@Miguel Salgado “无论左右,我支持暴力。”——三岛由纪夫

Bon
I see nothing wrong with this.
I would also see nothing wrong with a mass execution because to be honest, being a member of a criminal gang should be punishable by death to begin with.

我看不出这有什么问题。
我也不认为大规模处决有什么不对,因为说实话,作为犯罪团伙的一员,他们一开始就应该受到死刑的惩罚。

hmm F12dude
It’s wrong but that’s what they brought upon themselves ?♂?

这是不对的,但这就是他们自找的。

Devon
@Bon yup. it's time for society to get hard again. hard times create great men which create great times.

@Bon 是的。是时候让社会再次变得强硬了。艰难的时代造就伟大的人,而伟大的人创造伟大的时代。

Julian Faranda
Ever since I've been seeing how much El Salvador has been overrun by gangs and thugs, I always thought that this country was already beyond saving. But then this happens which I never in my dreams thought would ever happen.

自从我看到萨尔瓦多被黑帮和暴徒蹂躏的程度,我一直认为这个国家已经无法挽救了。但后来发生了我做梦都没想到的事。

To me this honestly has to be one of the greatest achievements to ever happen in El Salvador. God bless all the innocent citizens that have suffered at the hands of these criminals.
Love from the U.S.A.

对我来说,这真的是萨尔瓦多有史以来最伟大的成就之一。上帝保佑所有在这些罪犯手中遭受苦难的无辜公民。
来自美国的爱。
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M C
Never give up hope!

永远不要放弃希望!

Aaron565
Evil always is redeemed or forsaken by God. After they die, there will be no end to their suffering.

邪恶者总是被上帝救赎或抛弃。在他们死后,他们的痛苦将永无止境。
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Keplaris
What if this is just symbolic politics, how sure can we be that they did not simply arrest innocent people? (I did not watch the video)

如果这只是政治姿态怎么办?我们能有多确定他们不是简单的逮捕无辜的人?(我没有看视频)
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watt son
@Aaron565 Just wanted to say just for ppl who caused harm to others deserve that but based on yo religion, good citizens which r non believers face the same fate which don't make sense

@Aaron565 我只想说,那些伤害他人的人罪有应得,但根据你的宗教,没有信仰的好公民面临着同样的命运,这是没有道理的。

Hiyuki
@Keplaris watch it and find out

@Keplaris 那就看视频,看看是什么。

Choki Chocat
@Keplaris well like my uncle says when the village kills an innocent man: "let it be an example to everyone else not to be in the wrong place with the wrong people at the wrong time"

@Keplaris 就像我叔叔当村子里杀了一个无辜的人时所说的:"让这件事成为所有人的榜样,不要作为错误的人在错误的时间出现在错误的地点。"

LT R
@Keplaris Desperate times need desperate measures western princess.

@Keplaris 绝望的时刻需要绝望的举措,西方小妞。

Tyrone Valdéz-Krüger
@watt son Of course it makes no sense. Like the burning bush that talked and safed Abe's son

@watt son 当然没道理。就像那个跟亚伯的儿子说话并救了他的命的燃烧的树丛。

Mac Mari
My guy got balls of steel, he literally said “try to retaliate and imma starve yah homies
All jokes aside we gotta protect this guy I’m sure he knew taking a stand like this will put a huge target on his back but yet he still put his people first and gave them what they deserve.

我们的领导人有着钢铁般的胆量,他真的说过:“如果你们想报复,我就饿死你们。”
不开玩笑了,我们要保护这个家伙,我相信他知道这样的立场会让他成为巨大的靶子,但他仍然把人民放在第一位,给了那些罪犯应得的下场。

TheHellHeadbanger
Time for him to hire a Soldier of Fortune.

他是时候雇佣一名雇佣兵了。
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Acts
You gonna protect him with a twitter tweet?

你想用键盘来保护他吗?

Cosmo Ray
These human right NGO are aiding and abetting these criminal gangs.

那些人权NGO在帮助和教唆这些犯罪团伙。

bowlchamps37
@Cosmo Ray No, they are making sure that innocent people are not in prison.

@Cosmo Ray 不,他们在确保无辜者不会坐牢。

PointingOutObvious
America needs to do this.

美国也需要这样做。

holdawg
Have you heard of Castro? ?♂?

你听说过卡斯特罗吗?

Bao God Of Dumplings
@bowlchamps37 are you saying that the gang members are innocent?

@bowlchamps37 你是说那些黑帮成员是无辜的吗?

Jon Adam
I was adopted from el salvador 35 years ago. I can't say it's been easy, but a huge blessing it was, and I'm forever grateful for my entire adopted family, and my biological parents who put me on track for a better life.

我是35年前从萨尔瓦多被收养的。我不能说这段生活很容易,但这是一个巨大的祝福,我永远感激那个收养我的家庭,以及我的亲生父母,他们让我走上了更好的生活轨道。

Clara
Good for you

你很幸运。

Wardos
ok what has that to do with the video

嗯,但那跟这个视频有啥关系。

Mister Spin
@Wardos I assume his biological parents still live there, hopefully it makes it easier to visit them.

@Wardos 我推测他的生父母依然在那里生活,希望这件事能让拜访他们容易一点。

Geo3
liar

骗子。
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The Duke of Swellington
My best friend and his sister are both originally from ES too. Cant say ive ever heard them talk about going back even to visit but cant blame them either

我最好的朋友和他的妹妹都来自萨尔瓦多。我从未听他们说过要回去,甚至去那里访问,但我也不能怪他们。

Matt PryOkra
God bless you

上帝保佑你。
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Merlin Ria
Happy for you, hope you're still in touch with your bio parents tho. Is that really hard life there?

真为你高兴,希望你还和亲生父母保持联系。那里的生活真的很艰难吗?

Marco Bierbach
Give this man a Medal! This is how to deal with criminals. and this is how to deal with criticism from people who have no clue about the situation.

给这个人一枚奖章吧! 这就是对付罪犯的方法。对于那些不了解情况的人的批评,这也是应对之道。
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Jaime Rodriguez
Finally someone taking strict measures against criminals. My respect!

终于有人采取严厉措施打击犯罪了。献上我的尊重!

TD1412
And then there’s rappers who constantly promote gang related stuff like waving gang signs around

然后就会出现一些说唱歌手,一直鼓吹跟帮派有关的东西,比如到处比帮派手势。

Romeu
@TD1412 correct

@TD1412 说得对。
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Chapter 404
@TD1412 truth that people don’t wanna hear

@TD1412 这是逆耳忠言。

Patt
And all the brave officers who risked their lives arresting ones of the most dangerous people on earth.

还有所有勇敢的警官,他们冒着生命危险逮捕了地球上最危险的人。

Lemon King
BIDEN TAKE NOTES ON HOW TO BE A STRONG LEADER

拜登,学学如何成为一个强大的领导人。

Jess Alva
@Lemon King I don't think Biden doesn't know how to take notes dude

@Lemon King 我觉得拜登连怎么记笔记都不会,伙计。

Hugh Mungus
“Human rights activists” always want to find a middle ground with these criminals, while turning their back on the innocent people of El Salvador. These thugs are getting what they deserve and I couldn’t care less about how they’re treated

“人权活动人士”总是想办法与这些罪犯达成妥协,而他们却对无辜的萨尔瓦多人民置之不理。这些暴徒罪有应得,我根本不在乎他们受到了怎样的对待。

tp
They have no rights.

他们没有权利。

Bon
Unless if involves a lead enema or a neck stretching, it's not justice.

除非把那些罪犯的肠子里灌满铅,或者把他们脖子拉长,否则就是不是正义。

Vladimir Cornejo
FINALLY FINALLY FINALLY !!!!!!
PEACE FOR THE PEOPLE THAT EARN THEIR MONEY WITH LOTS OF EFFORT AND DECENCY….!
THANK YOU FOR FINALLY DOING SOMETHING ABOUT THIS SITUATION

终于来了!
给那些用努力和诚实赚钱的人带来和平!
谢谢你终于为这种情况采取了措施。
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Operator_Max1993
Thank god that there are sane people out there, about time they cracked down on these people

感谢上帝还有理智的人,是时候打击那些罪犯了。

Oliver YT
@Operator_Max1993 I think 6000 is far from all of them... in the end they would need to arrest ten times more... or even more, who knows.

@Operator_Max1993 我认为6000个远远不够……最终,他们需要逮捕的人数将是现在的十倍……或者更多,谁知道呢。

Bassam salim
@Oliver YT when you see this as a gang member your only sane move is to leave the gang and search for a real job, if you made a wrong move you go with them

@Oliver YT 如果你将这看做帮派成员,那你唯一明智的做法是离开帮会,并且找一份真正的工作,如果你行差踏错,你就跟他们一起了。

Al
The president got a point tho about all those NGOs whining about human rights violations. When these gangs terrorized, murdered, and tortured innocent civilians on nearly a daily basis, where were these organizations? And now when he started arresting them suddenly these NGOs appeared to whine about human rights violations. It seems like what the president said is true after all, that "NGOs need us [El Salvador] to continue to have problems, so that they can continue to make their fat salaries."

对于那些抱怨侵犯人权的非政府组织,这位总统有一个观点。当这些黑帮几乎每天恐吓、谋杀和折磨无辜平民时,这些组织在哪里? 现在,当他开始逮捕他们时,这些非政府组织突然开始抱怨他的行为侵犯人权。看来这位总统说的是真的,“非政府组织想让我们(萨尔瓦多)继续出问题,这样他们才能继续赚取丰厚的薪水。”

mimikyu
1My uncle is a doctor over there & luckily lives in a good area but my dad still didn't want me to visit bc of these people, but things might change now. He feels great seeing this action finally be done!

我叔叔是那里的一名医生,幸运的是,他住在一个不错的地区,但我爸爸仍然不希望我拜访他,就因为这些人,但现在情况可能会改变。他很高兴看到这个行动终于落地了!

Diana B.
I welcome the strong attitude & willingness to take drastic measures against criminal orgs, cleaning up the country — but this needs to become more than a display of force, populist show or smoke in mirrors. And a concrete, sustainable, nationwide programme needs to be formulated and implemented — one which can carry out lomg-term prosecution campaigns, justice reforms, crackdown on corruption & so on.

我欢迎这种采取严厉措施打击犯罪组织、整顿国家的强烈态度和意愿,但这需要的不仅仅是展示武力、民粹主义表演或烟雾弹。需要制定和实施一项具体的、可持续的全国性方案,该方案可以开展长期的起诉运动、司法改革、打击腐败等等。

These problems are systemic in that country & deeply imbedded in El Salvadorian culture and expectations/way of life, by now — solving them cannot be done in a matter of days, but decades. That is, if you want to see true change in the country...

在该国,这些问题是系统性的,深深植根于萨尔瓦多的文化和生活期望/生活方式中,到目前为止,解决这些问题不可能在几天内完成,而是几十年。也就是说,如果你想看到这个国家真正的变化……

I don't know anything about this president, but I hope he's professional & not just doing a circus bc elections are coming, or smth.

我对这个总统一无所知,但我希望他是专业的,而不是因为选举即将到来之类的原因,而在作秀。

Datgaspuffa
You’re exactly right! This dog and pony show it’s all it is if they don’t implement change and move forward with social systems to educate and help the citizens.

你说的完全正确! 如果他们不实施变革,不推进社会制度来教育和帮助公民,这就是作秀。

Francis
Congratulations Mr. President. This is exactly how all gang members need to be treated.

祝贺总统先生。所有黑帮成员都应该被这样对待。

nameofmychannel
Very much so… unfortunately…. Is a massacre. Send them to mars?

很不幸……这是一场屠杀。送他们去火星?

nameofmychannel
The crime there is very true too… very true. And this is were you choose?

那里的犯罪千真万确,千真万确。这就是你的选择?

Thomas Osaki
no, they shouldn't be fed

不,不应该给他们吃饭。

HAWAIIAN
This only makes them crazier.
And I bet half of that number is innocent

这只会让他们更加疯狂。
而且我打赌,其中一半都是无辜的。
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Kareem
My dads cousin was able to evade gangs that were trying to murder him for not paying a tax for living in “their hood” he now resides in Spain and hopefully one day can return to his mom and sister

我爸爸的表弟逃过了试图谋杀他的黑帮,因为他住在“他们的地盘”,而没有缴税。他现在住在西班牙,希望有一天能回到他妈妈和妹妹身边。

Vegan Vocalist
Awww that is so deeply sad

哎呀,真是太伤心了。

Angel Hernandez
This is what needs to be done. It’s tough but I feel like it will make things better

这是我们需要做的。很严厉,但我觉得这会让局面变得更好。
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crissy H
Love this, im so tired of the law protecting criminals, investigations take too long and gives the criminals a lot of time to flee out of sight

我喜欢这个,受够了保护罪犯的法律和耗时日久的调查,给罪犯很长时间逃脱法网。

S. C.
But those investigations protect innocents from a punishment they don't deserve.
A punishment that usually doesn't change anything

但那些调查保护无辜者免遭他们不应该受到的惩罚。
惩罚通常不能改变任何事。

Stephanie Acosta
Finally pls someone do this for all Latin American countries! They’re all over the continent and they show absolutely no mercy to their victims. May every person affected by gang violence Rest In Peace, and may their families find justice

终于来了,谁来为所有拉丁美洲国家做这件事! 他们遍布整个大陆,对受害者毫不留情。愿每一个受帮派暴力影响的人安息,愿他们的家人得到正义。

Caroline Charlotte
I felt so safe with Bukele! I am happy for Salvadorans! But very sad that what this man does is not being applied in America! I'm sick of Biden!

和布克尔在一起我觉得很安全! 我为萨尔瓦多人感到高兴! 但非常遗憾的是,这个人的做法并没有在美国得到应用!我讨厌拜登!

Taylor
It’s always that one attorney that is sticking up for them. Bruh if you do the crime do the time

总有律师在为他们辩护。兄弟,如果你犯了罪就要坐牢。

Sopamarucha
It's not Abuse it's reconstructing a Country.
So proud of this President, shows he really cares for his people.

这不是虐待,而是重建一个国家。
真为这位总统感到骄傲,这表明他真的关心他的人民。

Stefan Schleps
Agreed! Finally a little common sense is being shown by a President who will not be corrupted by the gangs and who cares about the common law abiding citizen.

同意! 终于,一个不会被帮派腐化、关心遵守法律的普通公民的总统展示了一点常识。

N3V3R FORGOTT3N
@Stefan Schleps and common sense that it wont be a soft hand that will fix the issues his country needs fixing

@Stefan Schleps 而且常识告诉我们,要想解决他的国家的问题,手段软弱是不行的。

Cenn Jonson
I'm liberal and pro human rights. But it's one thing to be a critic and another to actually govern. With the crazy gang problems they got there, I get why their president is cracking down.

我是自由主义者,支持人权。但批评是一回事,真正执政是另一回事。鉴于他们在那里遇到了疯狂的帮派问题,我明白他们的总统为什么要镇压。

Paul Luna
And this is how we get leaders like Stalin, Mao, and Hitler. This was indiscriminate.

斯大林、M和希特勒等领导人就是这样出现的。这是无差别逮捕。

Ryker Grotte
@Paul Luna lol, found the MS13 member.

@Paul Luna 哈哈,楼上是黑帮成员。

BigMoe36
This is only a test run

这只是小试牛刀。

GodKing Athletics, LLC
Let's see if this works. Smh.
Conservatives haven't learned...it is not likely that a government can "punish" away a massive "problem."

我们看看这是否可行。叹气。
保守派不明白……一个政府不太可能用“惩罚”解决一个大规模“问题”。

The same tactics have done countless times for many years.

多年来,同样的策略被使用了无数次。
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Reminds me...what's that saying about insanity and doing the same thing over and over.

提醒我……那句关于精神错乱和重复做同一件事的话是怎么说的。

Redirection and education is a more likely solution. Slower? Yes. But with lasting results.

改造和教育是一个更有可能的解决方案。比较慢? 是的。但会产生持久的效果。

Marc
@ElCuhAngelTV Eughh.... 6,000 people locked up without investigation or trial. At least 1% must be innocent and you're suggesting killing them all... Complex problems aren't easily solved. I wonder what future those young men have. They need jobs and prospects if they are going to prevent gangs in future

@ElCuhAngelTV 额……6000人未经调查或审判就遭到关押。至少有1%是无辜的,而你却建议把他们都杀了……复杂的问题不容易解决。我不知道那些年轻人有什么前途。如果他们想要在未来阻止帮派,他们就需要工作和前途。

Sasachiminesh
"Gang members" you call them, but many of their relatives say they are regular folks being kidnapped with no discretion at all. They say poor folks and Indigenous activists are being targeted falsely.

你管他们叫“帮派成员”,但他们的很多亲戚说,他们是被绑架的普通人,根本没有任何判断力。有人说,穷人和土著活动人士被错误地当作目标了。

Maria Boyce
The good people of El Salvador have been victims to gangs for so long, I'm glad that finally they have a President that has the bravery and guts to confront these creatures of terror

萨尔瓦多善良的人民长期以来一直是帮派的受害者,我很高兴他们终于有了一位有勇气和胆量对抗这些恐怖分子的总统。

Joe Black
I myself approve of strong anti-gang measures. That said. They can easily have stages of confinement. Something quite a bit less harsh for a few months until a court can confirm they belong to a gang. Then they can move them on to normal cells.

我本人赞成采取强有力的反帮派措施。话虽如此,他们可以很容易的进行阶段性的限制。在法庭确认他们是帮派成员之前,可以进行几个月的不太严厉的关押。然后他们可以把那些罪犯转移到正常的监狱里。

Stephen Sulzer
Finally someone standing up and saying enough

终于有人站出来,说适可而止了。

Alejandra Orellana
As someone who has had two cousins brutally murdered by people like this, I support this. My cousins were fathers that were chased down and brutally murdered in front of their family because they refused to join. People were threatened if they picked up their body too soon to show others what they are capable of. I have no sympathy for them, they are being showed more mercy then my cousins were.

作为一个有两个表亲被这样的人残忍杀害的人,我支持这种做法。我的表亲们都已身为人父,却遭到追杀,在家人面前被残忍地杀害,就因为他们拒绝加入黑帮。如果有人过早地给死者收尸,而不向别人展示那些黑帮的淫威,他们就会受到威胁。我不同情他们,他们的待遇比我的表亲们的遭遇更仁慈。

Kham XVIII
may your relatives rest in peace

愿你的亲人安息。

Snow Angel
My condolences for your loss, my father almost lost his life because he refused to join.

请节哀,我父亲因为拒绝加入黑帮而差点丧命。

Fujimoto Chiaki
Accept my condolences. I'm sorry to hear that happened to your family members.
I hope the progress made in arresting and locking up gang members continues to be a success.

接受我的哀悼。听说你的家人遭遇了这种事,我很难过。
我希望在逮捕和关押犯罪团伙成员方面取得的进展继续取得成功。

Alejandra Orellana
@SheridanTank yea very tragic that they chose to join a gang and very tragic that you don’t even understand the situation. Although many are forced to join many aren’t and they choose that lifestyle and maybe before you choose to open your mouth on a situation you don’t know anything about maybe you should educate yourself instead of excusing how they murder many innocent people. Entire families are murdered for no real reason, adults and babies alike are killed with no real mercy so yea very tragic.

@SheridanTank 是啊,他们选择加入黑帮非常悲惨,非常悲惨的其实是你,根本不了解情况。虽然很多人是被迫加入的,但也有很多人不是,他们选择了那种生活方式,也许在你选择开口谈论你一无所知的情况之前,你应该搞搞清楚,而不是为他们杀害无辜者的行为开脱。整个家庭无缘无故地被杀害,成年人和婴儿都被毫无怜悯地杀害,是啊,那些黑帮成员“非常悲惨”。

Alejandra Orellana
@Kham XVIII thank you I appreciate it

@Kham XVIII 谢谢,我很感激。

Alejandra Orellana
@Snow Angel omg I’m glad he made and was able to escape that

@Snow Angel 哎呀,很高兴他做到了,并且从中逃脱。

Alejandra Orellana
@Fujimoto Chiaki thank you and I really hope so, a change does need to be made. This has gone on for too and I hope this starts the healing.

@Fujimoto Chiaki 谢谢你,我真的希望如此,确实需要做出改变。这种情况已经持续了很久,我希望这种伤痛能开始愈合。

Stephanie Romayne Hebert
Gangs do act violently and may your family rest in piece. The people they actually arrested are likely not active gang members or drug dealers but rather they are the drugs, or will be. There is no money in cleaning up the streets and they're not about to spend it housing many folks for the next 15 to 20 for better citizenry. It's the harsh truth.

帮派确实有暴力行为,愿你的家人安息。他们实际逮捕的人可能不是活跃的团伙成员或毒贩,而是毒品(受害者),或将成为毒品(受害者)。没有钱来清理街道,他们也不打算把钱花在为未来15到20年的居民改善住房方面。这是残酷的事实。

Hippie
They need some teaching

他们需要教育。

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