话题讨论:在韩国致命车祸的审判中,特斯拉的安全和监管成为焦点
2022-11-26 碧波荡漾恒河水 13040
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The safety and regulation of Tesla in South Korea has been put in the spotlight at a criminal trial involving a deadly crash on December 19, 2020. Choi Woan-jong was behind the wheel of the Model X that smashed into a parking lot, killing the car owner, Yoon Hong-geun. Prosecutors say Choi floored the accelerator, which Choi denies, saying the car accelerated on its own.

在2020年12月19日发生的一起致命车祸的刑事审判中,特斯拉在韩国的安全和监管受到了关注。崔万钟驾驶着这辆Model X撞进停车场,导致车主尹宏根死亡。检方说,崔踩下了油门,但崔否认,称车子是自己加速的。

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Xác Ướp
If you drive Tesla, you should have a camera recording your foot so the Tesla company cannot accuse you of pressing the wrong pedal

如果你开特斯拉,你应该搞一个摄像头拍摄你的脚,这样特斯拉公司就不会指责你踩错了踏板。

Cr
Elon is very sus these few months. So yeah do this.

埃隆这几个月很可疑。所以,就这么搞。

slavaukraini
Just dont buy tesla

别买特斯拉就好。

Mark Thomas
No need there are sensors.

不需要,有传感器。

Mark Thomas
@slavaukraini you do know the story of King Canute??

@slavaukraini 你知道克努特国王的故事??
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Melinda Folcia
This kind of unwanted acceleration happens with many companies. But the responsability will always fall on the driver because that fact doesn't exist in the eyes of the law. There are videos where you can clearly see the break red lights going on while the car is only accelerating. Many compagnies have this malfunction happening from time to time.

很多公司(的车)都有这种不必要的加速。但责任总是落在司机身上,因为从法律的角度来看,这一事实并不存在。在视频中,你可以清楚地看到刹车的红灯亮着,而汽车就是在加速。许多公司都时不时地发生这种故障。
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Mecke Duli
Please show me some!

请拿一些给我看看!
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Howl
The news report is about a malfunction of a Tesla car. Not driver error or irresponsible driving.
It's a self driving car. So of course it would get some scrutiny, since it killed somebody; having trusting the car's capabilities.

这则新闻报道讲的是特斯拉汽车的故障。不是驾驶员失误或不负责任的驾驶。
这是一辆自动驾驶汽车。所以它当然会受到审查,因为它杀死了人;因为人们相信这辆汽车的性能。

Mecke Duli
@Howl Firstly the car wasnt in self driving. Noone drives a car in self driving mode into a garage. Second there is absolutely no scientific evidence that the car did something wrong but evidence that his food was on the wrong pedal. It happens man. Especially since he was unfamiliar with the car.

@Howl 首先,这辆车并不是自动驾驶。没人会用自动驾驶模式把车开进车库。其次,绝对没有科学证据表明汽车出了什么问题,但有证据表明他的脚踩错了踏板。有这种情况。尤其是他不熟悉那辆车。

SS 43
It might have been hacked.

它可能被黑了。

Pepe Le Pew
@Mecke Duli thats a lot of foot on the wrong pedal complaints from such a low sales count

@Mecke Duli 这么低的销售数字,关于“踩错踏板”的抱怨未免太多了。

L C
Which company has the same problem other than Tesla? Are you an American?

除了特斯拉,还有哪家公司有同样的问题?你是美国人吗?

UshankaMan
@SS 43 and u mightve watched too many hollywood movies. “hacking” doesnt work like that

@SS 43 你可能看了太多好莱坞电影。“黑客”不是这样的。

Some Blaq Guy
@Mecke Duli His foot being on the wrong pedal makes much more sense when you hear him recount his story and replace the word "brakes" with the word for "acceleration". He just sounds like he didn't realize what he was stepping on.

@Mecke Duli 当你听到他在讲述他的故事时,把“brakes”(刹车)一词换成“acceleration”(加速),你就会觉得他的脚踩错了踏板就说得通了。他听起来好像没意识到自己踩了什么。

Mecke Duli
@SS 43 Thats kind of technical understanding that asumes a car races off on its own. Its really frustrating.

@SS 43 这是一种技术理解,假设一辆汽车自己跑开。真的很令人沮丧。

Humanized Kun
well robot is more trusted than human in my opinion

在我看来,机器人比人类更值得信任。

B. Yung
Tesla just had 19th recall in a year.

特斯拉在一年内只进行了第19次召回。

糖鱒 ケ
@UshankaMan I wouldn’t disregard the idea that easily. I agree that the word „hacking“ makes it sound a bit naive, like from a science-fiction story. However, given sufficient understanding of a complex vehicle, would you say it is absolutely impossible to make adjustments that would make this vehicle behave in unpredicted ways? The act of sabotage on technology or infrastructure is not new and has happened often throughout history. The perhaps biggest act of sabotage in recent history was for example the destruction of the Nordstream 2 pipeline between Russia and Germany. I wouldn’t find it completely far-fetched, that a vehicle could be sabotaged. It might even be sabotaged with the intent of killing the operator of such vehicle. It could conveniently be frxd as an accident and investigation would prove difficult, especially, if the vehicle is a total loss. Still, I would in any case find technological failure or human error more likely and would want to investigate and eliminate those possibilities first, before jumping to conclusions.

@UshankaMan 我不会轻易忽视这个想法。我同意“黑客”这个词听起来有点天真,就像科幻小说里的故事。然而,在充分了解了一个复杂的交通工具之后,你能说完全不可能对它做出调整,让它以意想不到的方式运行吗? 破坏技术或基础设施的行为并不新鲜,在历史上经常发生。例如,近期历史上最大的破坏行为可能是俄罗斯和德国之间的北溪2号管道的破坏。我不会觉得这是完全不可思议的,一辆车可以被破坏。它甚至可能被蓄意破坏,目的是杀死这种车辆的操作员。这很容易被定性为一场事故,调查将变得困难,特别是如果车辆完全损毁的话。不过,在任何情况下,我都会发现技术故障或人为错误的可能性更大,我希望在下结论之前先调查并消除这些可能性。

Koppii!
@Mecke Duli it was always the foot on the wrong pedal because it has been proven that cars that has brakes failure is always something to do with how the driver steps on the pedals, but it's not exactly foot on the wrong pedal, it's just how it is stepped

@Mecke Duli 总是脚踩错了踏板,因为事实证明,汽车刹车失灵总是与驾驶员踩踏板的方式有关,但并不完全是脚踩错了踏板,问题只是踩踏板的方式。

Griffith X
No reply Melinda?

没有回复梅林达?

BR14Nx
You can also slightly break and keep accelerating by pushing the gas paddle down. I see this happen a lot with old people. No matter what car it is. That's why you should not put both feet onto brake and gas.

你也可以一边稍微踩刹车,一边踩下油门,用这种方式保持加速。我经常在老年人身上看到这种情况。不管是什么车。这就是为什么你不能把两只脚都踩在刹车和油门上。

Karen Blackburn
@Mecke Duli This is the second or third report of the same problem happening in the past couple of weeks, all were Tesla cars and in every case the driver reported the same problem - car accelerates while driver trying to break. Very much doubt that every case is the fault of the driver pushing the wrong pedal and they are all in different countries. Only similarity is the make of the vehicle.

@Mecke Duli 这是过去几周内发生的第二或第三起同样问题的报道,都是特斯拉的车,每起事件中司机都报告了同样的问题——司机试图刹车时汽车却在加速。我非常怀疑每一个案例都是司机踩错踏板造成的,而且他们都在不同的国家。唯一的相似之处是汽车的制造。
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big Crowe
Theirs also videos of Tesla in China and other countries that this happened. This is the 3rd time I seen this in the news, the tesla car accelerating for no reason.

特斯拉也有在中国和其他国家的视频。这是我第三次在新闻上看到这种情况,特斯拉汽车毫无理由地加速。

ZeroHeroes
"Many companies" but it's always Tesla in the news and people in the comment sections always say that it was the driver's mistake, while the drive claims the Tesla car accelerated even though they tried to stop it... Something isn't adding up.

“很多公司”,但新闻中总是出现特斯拉,人们在评论区总是说这是司机的错误,而司机声称特斯拉的车加速了,尽管他们试图停车……有些事情说不通。

MrManny
This is why you need a mechanical lever to put it in neutral!

这就是为什么需要一个机械杠杆,把它放在空挡!

Luke Yong
@Some Blaq Guy But when it is not an isolated incident it can be said that the driver's testimony holds weight. There are many reports regarding the same problem worldwide so how are you going to assume that it is always the drivers' fault?

@Some Blaq Guy 但当这不是一个孤立的事件时,可以说司机的证词是有分量的。世界上有很多关于同样问题的报道,所以你怎么能假设这总是司机的错呢?

Some Blaq Guy
@Luke Yong I never said "it was always the driver's fault". Read again. Clearly I only commented my speculation on this singular incident.

@Luke Yong 我从来没说过“都是司机的错”。再读一遍。显然,我只是评论了我对这一事件的推测。

Danger Angelous
@Mecke Duli have you not seen the videos where a Tesla will do something on its own to avoid an accident? Like the one when a car was going to hit the Tesla from behind but floored it?

@Mecke Duli 你没看过特斯拉会自己做一些事情来避免事故的视频吗? 就像一辆车要从后面撞到特斯拉,却躲开(?)了吗?

dhe dexter
@UshankaMan but malfunction AI does work like that

@UshankaMan 但故障AI确实是这样工作的。

UshankaMan
@dhe dexter elaborate.
do keep in mind that i am here because someone claimed the vehicle was “hacked”

@dhe dexter 请详细说明。
请记住,我在这里是因为有人声称这辆车被“黑”了。

ekfliu
@Karen Blackburn It is because the way tesla car works, in regular car you MUST press the brake to slow down this is NOT true in tesla. Tesla has auto regeneration, this mean as soon as accelerator not getting pressed the car slows down. The driver of tesla now becomes lazy and have their foot parked over the accelerator and removing it when they need to slowdown. However when they need sudden stop they now press their parked foot over accelerator instead of the brake like regular car. You can install camera over the feet of tesla driver and you can see them park their feet over the accelerator cause they got lazy!

@Karen Blackburn 这是因为特斯拉汽车的工作方式,在普通汽车中你必须踩刹车才能减速,但在特斯拉不是这样的。特斯拉有auto regeneration系统,这意味着只要油门不被踩下,汽车就会减速。特斯拉的司机现在变得懒惰,他们的脚停在油门上,当他们需要减速时才拿开。然而,当他们需要突然停车时,他们正好把脚压在油门上,而不是像普通汽车那样放在刹车踏板上。你可以在特斯拉司机的脚上安装摄像头,你可以看到他们把脚停在油门上,因为他们很懒!

za chu
Similar things happened to a Model Y owner in China several days ago, causing 2 deaths and more injuries

几天前,中国一名Model Y车主也发生了类似的事情,造成两人死亡,多人受伤。

Lucky889 S
Tesla is now a weapon of mass destruction... Elon is laughing all the way to the bank

特斯拉现在是大规模杀伤性武器了……埃隆一路笑着去了银行。

The Crab
@Seeyou Seemee you seems pretty reluctant to see people blaming Tesla. why is that?

@Seeyou Seemee 你似乎很不愿意看到人们指责特斯拉。为什么呢?
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Pepe Le Pew
@The Crab because he is indian.

@The Crab 因为他是印度人。

Shin Bi
@Seeyou Seemee you just trying to troll everyone. Even you know its Tesla.

@Seeyou Seemee you 你就是想逮谁喷谁。即便你知道它是特斯拉。

dead by daylight
@Seeyou Seemee brahman would be ashamed to hear you took pleasure in this.

@Seeyou Seemee 婆罗门要是知道你以此为乐,一定会感到羞耻的。
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Starhawk Flying Bright
@Seeyou Seemee so nice of you to keep thinking about China

@Seeyou Seemee 你一直想着中国,你真是太好了。
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Superp0oo0per 2020
We inddians can't aff0rd Tesla car because we make 0nly a d0llar a day

我们印度人买不起特斯拉,因为我们一天只挣一美元。
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Yaqi Wang
I think I saw the video about that. It indeed looks like a malfunctioning car.

我好像看过那个视频。它看起来确实像一辆出了故障的车。

The Crab
@Pepe Le Pew Well…though I do remain skeptical about his intention, I don't really approve labeling individual action as national scale.

@Pepe Le Pew 虽然我对他的意图持怀疑态度,但我并不赞成将个人行为定性为国家规模的行为。

alkdjfhgks
that similar incident you're talking about 100% 200% was for a fact intentional.
you could see it from the moment the car pulls to the side of the road waiting for the motorbike behind him to pass so he can get Behind the bike and nearly hit him, beginning his rampage.
he obviously pulled over to wait for that motorbike
every action that car made showed that it was intentional...
you should pay more attention

你说的那个类似的事件100%、200%都是故意的。
从那辆车停到路边等着后面的摩托车驶过的那一刻就能看出来,这样他就能追到摩托车后面,差点撞到摩托车,开始狂暴。他靠边停车显然是为了等那辆摩托车。
那辆车的一举一动都表明它是故意的。
你应该多加注意。

Mark Thomas
@The Crab probably waiting for the evidence.

@The Crab 可能是在等证据。

hearhere
The most recent reported out of control Tesla crash was in Garden Grove, California ( Nov 11, 2022 ). This crash was similar to the one in China on Nov 5, 2022. All the media in California report the Garden Grove incident as a suspected "driving under the influence" crash although the driver was not tested at the time of the reporting. It's fishy when all the media are reporting like it's a verbatim directive.

最近一次失控的特斯拉撞车事故发生在加利福尼亚州的加登格罗夫(2022年11月11日)。这次事故与2022年11月5日发生在中国的事故类似。加州所有媒体都将加登格罗夫事故报道为疑似“酒后驾车”事故,尽管在报道时司机并未接受酒精检测。当所有媒体的报道都一字不差,就像指示一样时,就很可疑了。
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Ray Mak
This is very true. I’ve friend’s vehicle that accelerated when he was trying to break. It’s like the vehicle detected something that forces it to move forward. Luckily he’s fine.

非常正确。我有个朋友的车在刹车时加速了。就好像车辆探测到什么东西迫使它向前移动一样。幸运的是他没事。

Cecile Vergne Yi Joo Hwa
I think it s abs system and their security .. but this happens on all sports cars ... on automatic mode ... it happened to me with European car ,..

我认为这是abs系统和安全性的问题……但所有的跑车都有这种情况……在自动模式下……我开欧洲车时就亲身经历过……

Lily Anne
So now tesla become an asassination weapon

现在特斯拉成了暗杀武器。
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Mister Big
I think I'll be safe listening to Ray Mak's YouTube videos

我想我听Ray Mak的YouTube视频会很安全。

Mr Tee
@Cecile Vergne Yi Joo Hwa many accidents are cause by human pressing gas instead of brake pedal.

@Cecile Vergne Yi Joo Hwa 许多事故是由于人踩油门而不是踩刹车造成的。

Pepe Le Pew
@Mr Tee so will tesla drop another $100 ?

@Mr Tee 那么特斯拉会再跌100美元吗?

Humanized Kun
well robot is more trusted than human in my opinion

在我看来,机器人比人类更值得信任。

Rikudou Ray
It's true now that I see your comment for the first time again since 2021 lol.

确实,自从2021年以来我第一次看到你的评论,哈哈。

Rash
@Rikudou Ray RIGHT! I thought I was the only one

@Rikudou Ray 没错! 我以为只有我一个人。

Lucky889 S
Dude where tf you been this year. Thought you Were dead...

老兄,你他妈今年去哪了。以为你已经死了…

Albertlam124
@Cecile Vergne Yi Joo Hwa yeah the abs

@Cecile Vergne Yi Joo Hwa 对对对,ABS的锅。

Matthew Salguero
@Lily Anne One of Agent 47’s Assassinations

@Lily Anne 《杀手47》的一次刺杀任务。

Mr Tee
@Pepe Le Pew No, but may be another 30%.

@Pepe Le Pew 不,但可能是另外30%。

yayie
You may drive any car you wish but never place your trust on an AI.

你可以开任何你想开的车,但永远不要信任人工智能。

Godof Nothing
Are we gonna ignore other car accidents now? Let's look at how many accidents in Tesla car vs Regular car.

我们要无视其他车祸吗? 让我们看看特斯拉汽车和普通汽车都有多少事故。

Seeyou Seemee
Given enough time, Teslas would surpass non AI cars in kills. All hail the machine overlords

如果有足够的时间,特斯拉的杀伤力将超过非人工智能汽车。向机器霸主致敬。

Lucky889 S
Skynet is taking over, one tesla at a time

天网要接管了,一次一辆特斯拉。
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sys32
@Godof Nothing regular car get the same treatment for producer induced accidents, unsafe features.

@Godof Nothing 普通汽车都会得到相同的处理,都是生产商引起的事故,不安全的特点。

Bodo Cartoon Explainer
@Godof Nothing situation is diferent here bro, they said the Tesla car was uncontrolable but we can control the regular car and Ai cars are very dangerous. If something malfunctions your life will be in danger

@Godof Nothing 这里的情况不一样,他们说特斯拉汽车无法控制,但我们可以控制普通汽车,人工智能汽车非常危险。如果有什么故障,你的生命将处于危险之中。

Godof Nothing
@Bodo Cartoon Explainer If we can control the regular car why car accident exist?

@Bodo Cartoon Explainer 如果我们能控制普通汽车,为什么车祸还会存在?

Yong Ling
@Godof Nothing Driver error. Many drivers treat driving as a means of getting from A to B, never seeing it as some form of craft that can be refined through practice and time investment in said craft.

@Godof Nothing 司机的错误。许多司机把开车当作从a地到B地的一种手段,从来不认为它是一种可以通过实践和时间投资来改进的手艺。
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Bodo Cartoon Explainer
@Godof Nothing there are several factors for car accident but as you can see here clearly the fault of car not who is driving it, Tesla car got uncontrolable itself because of malfunctions so see the difference

@Godof Nothing 车祸有几个因素,但你可以清楚地看到,是汽车的错,而不是驾驶它的人,特斯拉汽车因为故障而变得无法控制,所以看到区别了吧?

R. G.M
@Bodo Cartoon Explainer you don't even know if it's actually malafunction or not

@Bodo Cartoon Explainer 你甚至不知道它是否真的出了故障。

Bodo Cartoon Explainer
@R. G.M well never trust yourself in AI Elon Musk himself said that Ai can be very dangerous

@R. G.M 永远不要相信人工智能,埃隆·马斯克自己也说过,人工智能可能非常危险。

Doggos
@R. G.M of course we know. There's a video footage of the accident and we can clearly see the car had its brakes turned on but still wouldn't stop. It's 100% a malfunction

@R. G.M 我们当然知道。有一段事故的视频,我们可以清楚地看到汽车的刹车亮了,但仍然没有停下来。100%是故障。

gian franco
Yeah,its an insanity... data can be off,sensors off for a microsecond and blamm you gone

是的,这太疯狂了……数据掉线,传感器关闭一微秒,你就没了。

Mr Fish Sticks
@Godof Nothing Because we have more regular car than teslas

@Godof Nothing 因为我们的普通车比特斯拉多。

Last Chang de PaPa
@Godof Nothing are you going to ignore the ratio of Tesla and regular car? Lamo

@Godof Nothing 你会忽略特斯拉和普通汽车的比例吗? 笑死。

Koniku · 3y
There's even an incident where a tesla owner was pulling to the side but then suddenly it accelerates even tho he's trying to break. Unfortunately he killed 3 people after trying to maneuver it and dodge other vehicles for 2km.

甚至发生过这样的事故:一名特斯拉车主把车停到路边,但在他试图刹车时,它却突然加速了。不幸的是,他在试图操纵它并躲过其他车辆2公里后,撞死了3个人。

Mecke Duli
So you really think you could floor an accelearator of a Tesla for 2 km on a bad road? I dont belive a word.

所以你真的认为你能在烂路上把特斯拉的油门踩到底跑2公里吗? 我一个字也不相信。

Cerita Jepang
@Mecke Duli 50 cents for you

@Mecke Duli 五毛给你。

Mecke Duli
@Cerita Jepang I need a bit more to buy the safest car that ever existed on the planet. And maybe a few more to convince a bad driver mixing up the pedals to stay behind his mistakes.

@Cerita Jepang 我还需要多一点钱才能买到地球上最安全的车。也许还需要再多花些时间来说服一个踩错踏板的糟糕司机,让他不要犯错。

Pepe Le Pew
@Mecke Duli take 50 cents here and another 50 cents there will get u a dollar. then u go buy something from the dollar store. okay

@Mecke Duli 这儿拿五毛钱,那儿再拿五毛钱,就是一块钱。然后你去一元店买东西。好吧。

Thomas Gilbreath
@Pepe Le Pew he's working hard for that money. Hope Tesla paying him better hahahaha

@Pepe Le Pew 他为了那笔钱努力工作。希望特斯拉给他更高的薪水,哈哈哈。

J D
@Mecke Duli Have you seen the video? How tf he'd mistaken the accelerator for break when he was literally trying to park when the car accelerated and went out of control, and for whole 2 km no less.

@Mecke Duli 你看过视频了吗? 他怎么会错误的把油门当成刹车,当他试图停车的时候,车子加速了,失去了控制,足足跑了2公里。

Koniku · 3y
@Mecke Duli it's 2km, he can even maneuver it, there's enough time to know what's your feet is pressing. You even disregarded that he's pulling to the side at the start, and it didn't even occur to you that there's a malfunction going on? Do you lack common sense that much?

@Mecke Duli 这是2公里,他甚至无法操纵它,有足够的时间知道你的脚踩在什么上面。你甚至无视了他一开始就把车开到一边了,你甚至都没想过这是故障吗? 你就那么缺乏常识吗?

Arun
@Mecke Duli Here, you dropped this

@Mecke Duli 你的脑子掉这了。
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Mecke Duli
@Arun running out of arguments? No worries. Just let it sink in. Take your time...

@Arun 没词了? 别担心。让它慢慢沉淀。慢慢来……

Arun
@Mecke Duli The previous replies, read those. I don't want to repeat what people has already pointed out in this thread

@Mecke Duli 阅读之前的回复。我不想重复人们在这个帖子中已经指出的内容。

alkdjfhgks
yeah... the incident where the driver OBVIOUSLY pulled over just to slow down (not stop) with the only intention of waiting for the motorbike to pass, so he can immediately get behind and almost hit the motorbike before continuing his rampage...
it's so sad how easily fooled people are... that was an intentional incident and it's very obvious, every movement the car made indicated intentional rampage.

是的……在这起事件中,司机【明显】是为了减速(不是停车)而靠边停车的,唯一的目的就是等摩托车驶过,这样他就可以马上跟上去,而且他差点撞到摩托车,然后继续行凶……
太可悲了,人们是如此容易被愚弄……这是一起故意的事故,很明显,那辆汽车的每一个动作都表明他是故意横冲直撞。

zitronentee
This is why I'm questioning Tesla's safety. The same happened in China and Paris. Something is wrong with the car.

这就是我质疑特斯拉安全性的原因。同样的情况也发生在中国和巴黎。这辆车出毛病了。

Shion0Hibiki
There is a case in US, the driver was luck she was heading home and was going slow, the brake fail two times. The car was tow back to the dealer and Tesla send engineer to the dealer. The car was send back for investigation. There must be something going on in this car that Tesla is hiding.

在美国有一个案例,司机很幸运,她在回家的路上开得很慢,刹车失灵了两次。汽车被拖回经销商和特斯拉派工程师到经销商。那辆汽车被退回去调查。这辆车里一定有特斯拉隐瞒的东西。

Josué Hernández-Ruiz
This is why I feel safer driving my manual and driving as carefully as I can.

这就是为什么我觉得开手动档和尽可能小心驾驶更安全。

Paris $hite Germain
Don't worry about automatic as long as it's not automated. Remember to get petrol, just avoid all the electric powered engines

只要不是自动的,就不用担心自动化。记得买油车,不要买电车。

John Doe
A friend had a Model Y and it suddenly decelerated to a complete stop on the highway. He threatened to sue Tesla but they settled quietly and got an Audi Q8

我的一个朋友有一辆Model Y,在高速公路上突然减速完全停了下来。他威胁要起诉特斯拉,但他们安静地和解了,得到了一辆奥迪Q8。

TheTB
Regardless how developed the autopilot will get in the future, I would never completely trust it, and I will make sure always to be the pilot of my car.

无论未来自动驾驶技术发展到什么程度,我都不会完全相信它,我一定会一直做我自己车的驾驶员。

Eliza Eri
True...you never know when the system can run haywire...

确实……你永远不知道系统什么时候会失控。
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Shirt Papa
Just like humans too. You never know when a human need to sneeze or had to close his eyes anytime. I will trust a computer more

就像人类一样。你永远不知道一个人什么时候需要打喷嚏或必须随时闭上眼睛。我会更信任电脑。

James McManus
@Shirt Papa I will always do a mix of both, never completely relying on AI. For example, I won’t sit in the back seat, nor will I willfully fall asleep or stop paying attention to what’s going on. It’ll be like how real airplane pilots use auto pilot. They let it do the work, but they keep an eye on it.

@Shirt Papa 我将始终混合使用两者,而不会完全依赖人工智能。例如,我不会坐在后座上,也不会故意睡着或不注意正在发生的事情。就像真正的飞行员使用自动驾驶仪一样。他们让它工作,但他们一直盯着它。

Sam Gyeopsal
@Shirt Papa sneezing doesn’t affect driving at all

@Shirt Papa 打喷嚏完全不会影响开车。

Re:Hilera
even you not, glitch is glitch.

即使你不同意,但故障就是故障。

xRyann_
This is some backwards logic, when a computer statistically fails LESS than a human, would you still not trust autopilot? It's a different story when you throw maths and logic out of the window

这是一种逆向逻辑,按照统计学,当计算机的故障比人少的时候,你还会不信任自动驾驶仪吗? 当你把数学和逻辑抛到九霄云外时,情况就不一样了。

Re:Hilera
@xRyann_ Honestly theres another issue with their cars. "Tesla recalls over 321000 vehicles due to taillight software issue" - The Verge News

@xRyann_ 说实话,他们的车还有一个问题。“由于尾灯软件问题,特斯拉召回了超过321000辆汽车”——The Verge新闻。
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Michel Witzik
Idk. Humain fail driving safe too. Id like to have more data. Then I would compared the statistics and make my mind up. But despite that isnt the topic here two things already are fact 1. interconnected autopiloted cars on roads and stroads would ruler absolutely when it comes to safety and every traffic participant (car would know of other car behind the curve from that said car and so on) 2. Autopiloted cars arent gonna leave again. Often new technologies or new applyings startet bulky, smt catastrophic - most evolved and got normal Part of everyday live.

我不知道。人类驾驶也不安全。我想要更多的数据。然后我会比较数据并做出决定。但尽管这不是我们的主题,有两件事已经是事实。1、当涉及到安全问题时,道路上互联的自动驾驶汽车将是绝对的统治者,每一个交通参与者(汽车将通过该汽车知道弯道后面的其他汽车,等等)。2、自动驾驶汽车不会再次离开。通常新技术或新应用开始时都是笨重的、灾难性的——大多数都进化了,成为日常生活的正常部分。

Guess autopiloted cars will shoot through in arabia, more northern Asia, maybe parts of africa before nordamerica and europe will have adjusted or passed the laws needed. That's what's killing Innovation most at this time I think smts, the bureaucratic thing that's agile like a snail and these people that dont want anything to change and talking everything bad.

我猜在北美和欧洲调整或通过必要的法律之前,自动驾驶汽车将会在阿拉伯,更多的亚洲北部,也许部分非洲地区普及。我认为这是目前扼杀创新的最主要原因,官僚主义的东西像蜗牛一样敏捷,这些人不想改变任何事情,把什么都说成坏的。

I mean smts New stuff is just bad. Especially the "New" stuff that's really old stuff but in worse quality.

我是说,新东西就是不好。特别是这个“新”东西,其实是老东西,但质量比较差。

Desmond Ip
Wait until you find out how many equipments we use daily are fully automated or at least 95%.

等着瞧吧,你会发现我们每天使用的设备中有多少是全自动的,或者至少95%是全自动的。

Lwen BMW
There should be a separate license for cars that can get 0-60 in under 4 seconds.

可以在4秒内加速到0-60的汽车应该搞一个单独的许可证。

Victor Flores
Unfortunately the US. Hands out licenses like candies..

不幸的是,美国发放许可证就像发放糖果一样。

Vulpine
Which part of “The car is literally doing it on it’s own and the driver could not physically do anything to stop it” did you not understand mate?

"车是自己开的,司机无法阻止它"这句话你听不懂吗,伙计?

47 CGI
This is uncomfortable to watch after seeing footage of that Tesla Model S flying through the streets in China

在看到特斯拉Model S在中国的街道上飞驰的镜头后,这看起来很不舒服。

Gadget Gasspoll
You forgot the recent tesla model Y accident

你忘了最近的特斯拉model Y的事故了。

Gadget Gasspoll
And Tesla accident in Paris.
everyone complained that the Tesla car accelerated by itself without being able to brake

还有特斯拉在巴黎发生的事故。
每个人都抱怨特斯拉汽车自己加速而不能刹车。

Seeyou Seemee
Nah that’s just an average driver in China

不,那就是中国司机的基操。

BLAZE
@Seeyou Seemee just avg tesla

@Seeyou Seemee 就是特斯拉的基操。

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