网友讨论:作为大英子民的你会买中国车么？
正文翻译
Would you buy a Chinese car?
So with the new Chinese cars about to come to the UK like the Ora Funky Cat, Wey Coffee, BYD Atto or the MG cars, would you buy one? They seem to be cheap with great Euro NCAP safety ratings and seem amazing value for money. Does the fact theyre made in China and some owned by the Chinese govt put you off or is this the way car production is going?
你会买中国车么？
随着中国新车陆续进入英国市场，比如Ora Funky Cat（注：欧拉好猫）、Wey Coffee（摩卡）、比亚迪Atto或MG（注：名爵，现属于上汽）汽车，你会买一辆吗?这些车都很便宜，但让具有很高的欧洲NCAP安全评级，物有所值。有些车是中国制造，有些是中国国企制造，这让你有所顾忌么?或者这就是汽车生产的发展方向吗?
Would you buy a Chinese car?
So with the new Chinese cars about to come to the UK like the Ora Funky Cat, Wey Coffee, BYD Atto or the MG cars, would you buy one? They seem to be cheap with great Euro NCAP safety ratings and seem amazing value for money. Does the fact theyre made in China and some owned by the Chinese govt put you off or is this the way car production is going?
你会买中国车么？
随着中国新车陆续进入英国市场，比如Ora Funky Cat（注：欧拉好猫）、Wey Coffee（摩卡）、比亚迪Atto或MG（注：名爵，现属于上汽）汽车，你会买一辆吗?这些车都很便宜，但让具有很高的欧洲NCAP安全评级，物有所值。有些车是中国制造，有些是中国国企制造，这让你有所顾忌么?或者这就是汽车生产的发展方向吗?
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DM-me-your-ass-
The way this year is going financially, I wouldn't even buy a Chinese takeaway
预计我今年收入情况，我甚至都点不起一份中国外卖
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The way this year is going financially, I wouldn't even buy a Chinese takeaway
预计我今年收入情况，我甚至都点不起一份中国外卖
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monitorsareprison
£4 for a large curry and chips in my chinese takeaway. i remember a few years ago it was £2.50.
现在中国外卖一个大份咖喱薯条要4英镑（注：目前1英镑兑8元人民币，以下同），我印象几年前才2.5英镑
£4 for a large curry and chips in my chinese takeaway. i remember a few years ago it was £2.50.
现在中国外卖一个大份咖喱薯条要4英镑（注：目前1英镑兑8元人民币，以下同），我印象几年前才2.5英镑
Namiweso
Is £4 an issue? £2.50 a few years ago feels like you’re robbing them
对于中国外卖，4英镑还算贵？几年前的2.5英镑感觉就像是他们白送给你的一样。
Is £4 an issue? £2.50 a few years ago feels like you’re robbing them
对于中国外卖，4英镑还算贵？几年前的2.5英镑感觉就像是他们白送给你的一样。
360_face_palm
What the fuck £4 would be cheap as hell here
4英镑你还想咋地，除了中国外卖,其他家哪有这么便宜的
What the fuck £4 would be cheap as hell here
4英镑你还想咋地，除了中国外卖,其他家哪有这么便宜的
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BreqsCousin
I wouldn't buy a car that wasn't from a brand that was already common here. I want parts to be easily available, and I want mechanics to have already spent time with this exact model of car and to have already encountered any common problems with it.
我不会买一辆在这里路上不常见牌子的车。我需要的是配件好找，修车师傅对这车很熟，啥毛病都能修一修的车。
BreqsCousin
I wouldn't buy a car that wasn't from a brand that was already common here. I want parts to be easily available, and I want mechanics to have already spent time with this exact model of car and to have already encountered any common problems with it.
我不会买一辆在这里路上不常见牌子的车。我需要的是配件好找，修车师傅对这车很熟，啥毛病都能修一修的车。
Paulstan67
100% this. As an example, 20 years ago I was on holiday in France and hired a car, it was a cheap deal and a car (I forget the make) that was new to France, when it broke down it took a 300 mile tow to the nearest garage capable of fixing and 4 days for the parts to arrive.
If I had hired a more commonly available car, yes it would have cost me more, but I wouldn't have had all that hassle getting it fixed.
确实。举个例子，20年前，我在法国度假时租了一辆车，挺便宜的，而且还是法国新出的车(啥牌子忘了)，有一天车子开着开着抛锚了，之后我找人拖着这辆车跑了300英里才找到最近能修它的修车厂，但要换的零件得4天后才到。
如果我租了一辆普通常见的车，是的，虽然会多花我点钱，但修它肯定不会那么麻烦。
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100% this. As an example, 20 years ago I was on holiday in France and hired a car, it was a cheap deal and a car (I forget the make) that was new to France, when it broke down it took a 300 mile tow to the nearest garage capable of fixing and 4 days for the parts to arrive.
If I had hired a more commonly available car, yes it would have cost me more, but I wouldn't have had all that hassle getting it fixed.
确实。举个例子，20年前，我在法国度假时租了一辆车，挺便宜的，而且还是法国新出的车(啥牌子忘了)，有一天车子开着开着抛锚了，之后我找人拖着这辆车跑了300英里才找到最近能修它的修车厂，但要换的零件得4天后才到。
如果我租了一辆普通常见的车，是的，虽然会多花我点钱，但修它肯定不会那么麻烦。
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WelshRareDit
Very much this. There's a lot of complaints that even basic Chinese MG parts are mostly dealer only and have long wait times for delivery. Peugeot/Vauxhall/Ford/VW group and so on don't have that problem
真就是这样。不少人抱怨，就连最基本的中国MG车零部件大多也只有经销商才能弄到，而且需要很长时间才能收到货。标致/沃克斯豪尔/福特/大众等品牌车就没有这个问题
Very much this. There's a lot of complaints that even basic Chinese MG parts are mostly dealer only and have long wait times for delivery. Peugeot/Vauxhall/Ford/VW group and so on don't have that problem
真就是这样。不少人抱怨，就连最基本的中国MG车零部件大多也只有经销商才能弄到，而且需要很长时间才能收到货。标致/沃克斯豪尔/福特/大众等品牌车就没有这个问题
NoPalpitation9639
That's fairly common across all manufacturers right now. Many production lines needed to stop because of COVID, chip shortage, Ukraine unrest etc
现在这种情况已经很普遍了。比如新冠疫情、芯片短缺、俄乌战争等因素的影响，好多产线都停了
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That's fairly common across all manufacturers right now. Many production lines needed to stop because of COVID, chip shortage, Ukraine unrest etc
现在这种情况已经很普遍了。比如新冠疫情、芯片短缺、俄乌战争等因素的影响，好多产线都停了
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WelshRareDit
The problem with the Chinese brands is their market penetration is still too low for most of the big 3rd party parts makers to bother producing parts for them, so your only option is to go directly to MG.
中国品牌车的问题在于，它们对市场渗透率仍太低，大多数大型第三方零部件制造商都懒得为它们生产零部件，所以你唯一的选择就是直接去找MG。
The problem with the Chinese brands is their market penetration is still too low for most of the big 3rd party parts makers to bother producing parts for them, so your only option is to go directly to MG.
中国品牌车的问题在于，它们对市场渗透率仍太低，大多数大型第三方零部件制造商都懒得为它们生产零部件，所以你唯一的选择就是直接去找MG。
IndependenceOdd1070
Chinese MG parts are mostly dealer only
Most car brands are like that though. It's a feature of that industry
中国MG车的车零件只有经销商手里有
大多品牌汽车都这样。这是这个行业的一个特点
Chinese MG parts are mostly dealer only
Most car brands are like that though. It's a feature of that industry
中国MG车的车零件只有经销商手里有
大多品牌汽车都这样。这是这个行业的一个特点
WelshRareDit
No, they aren't. Unless its for a newly introduced model then most mass-market cars have loads of parts options, be that direct from the dealer / car manufacturer or alternatives from independent suppliers like motor factors (Car parts shops) and online with rapid delivery or even parts on the shelf.
With Chinese brands like MG their low sales volumes mean the alternative options aren't there because their sales would be tiny. You're stuck with the MG dealer network who are in turn dependant on MG UK getting parts in from SAIC MG in China. If MG UK doesn't have the part your car needs in stock then you're stuck without a car until they get one in
不是吧。除非是一款新推出的车型，多数常见车买换零件很容易方便的，无论是直接从经销商/汽车制造商，还是从独立供应商(如汽车零部件商店)那里，或者在上网订购，甚至车店上的货架都有。
像MG这样的中国品牌车，它们销量不高意味着它们没有其他选择。你只有周游于MG经销商网络，而这些经销商又依赖MG英国从中国的上汽MG获得零部件。如果MG英国没有你的车需要的零件，那么你就会陷入没车开的窘境，或是只有再买一辆
No, they aren't. Unless its for a newly introduced model then most mass-market cars have loads of parts options, be that direct from the dealer / car manufacturer or alternatives from independent suppliers like motor factors (Car parts shops) and online with rapid delivery or even parts on the shelf.
With Chinese brands like MG their low sales volumes mean the alternative options aren't there because their sales would be tiny. You're stuck with the MG dealer network who are in turn dependant on MG UK getting parts in from SAIC MG in China. If MG UK doesn't have the part your car needs in stock then you're stuck without a car until they get one in
不是吧。除非是一款新推出的车型，多数常见车买换零件很容易方便的，无论是直接从经销商/汽车制造商，还是从独立供应商(如汽车零部件商店)那里，或者在上网订购，甚至车店上的货架都有。
像MG这样的中国品牌车，它们销量不高意味着它们没有其他选择。你只有周游于MG经销商网络，而这些经销商又依赖MG英国从中国的上汽MG获得零部件。如果MG英国没有你的车需要的零件，那么你就会陷入没车开的窘境，或是只有再买一辆
wiedziu
Your couldn't be more wrong. I have 8 VW Caddy's in my regional fleet, 21 plate, currently 3 week wait for service parts up in Manny.
大错特错。我们这里的车队有8辆大众凯迪拉克，21辆平板车，在曼尼等了三个礼拜才拿到更换零件。
Your couldn't be more wrong. I have 8 VW Caddy's in my regional fleet, 21 plate, currently 3 week wait for service parts up in Manny.
大错特错。我们这里的车队有8辆大众凯迪拉克，21辆平板车，在曼尼等了三个礼拜才拿到更换零件。
goddesstrotter
Absolutely correct, I have a Mazda and even that is hard to get parts for
确实，我有一辆马自达车，即使是马自达的零件也不好买
Absolutely correct, I have a Mazda and even that is hard to get parts for
确实，我有一辆马自达车，即使是马自达的零件也不好买
GaynessForever
I bought a cheap Cadillac CTS a few years ago. Even service items like brake discs had to come from Germany, took ages to arrive at great expense.
Absolute fucking nightmare. I'd never do it again even though I liked the car.
几年前我买了一辆二手凯迪拉克CTS。甚至像刹车盘这种东西也必须从德国进口，还得等很长时间，而且费用高昂。绝对的噩梦。即使我很喜欢那辆车，但我想我也再也不会去买它了。
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I bought a cheap Cadillac CTS a few years ago. Even service items like brake discs had to come from Germany, took ages to arrive at great expense.
Absolute fucking nightmare. I'd never do it again even though I liked the car.
几年前我买了一辆二手凯迪拉克CTS。甚至像刹车盘这种东西也必须从德国进口，还得等很长时间，而且费用高昂。绝对的噩梦。即使我很喜欢那辆车，但我想我也再也不会去买它了。
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BeGoodAtReddit
MG is especially awful. A British brand that was run into the ground now being manufactured in China and sold back to us, with only a few hundred jobs in the UK supply chain instead of 10,000's.
Having a bit of geopolitical sense and not buying from a country that openly hates us is a good start.
最烦MG车。一个快破产英国车跑去中国造，然后再卖回给我们，这车在英国供应链上只解决几百个工作岗位，而不是1万个。
应该有一点地缘政治意识，不要买公开讨厌我们国家的东西，从我做起吧。
MG is especially awful. A British brand that was run into the ground now being manufactured in China and sold back to us, with only a few hundred jobs in the UK supply chain instead of 10,000's.
Having a bit of geopolitical sense and not buying from a country that openly hates us is a good start.
最烦MG车。一个快破产英国车跑去中国造，然后再卖回给我们，这车在英国供应链上只解决几百个工作岗位，而不是1万个。
应该有一点地缘政治意识，不要买公开讨厌我们国家的东西，从我做起吧。
alan2001
Totally agree, fuck all that. There is something slightly obscene about it, never mind the looks of the cars.
I sometimes wonder if your average (new) MG owner even realises the lix to China.
完全同意，去他妈的。这车有点猥琐，更别提车的外观了。
我有时在想，你那些MG车主是否意识到这车与中国有牵连。
Totally agree, fuck all that. There is something slightly obscene about it, never mind the looks of the cars.
I sometimes wonder if your average (new) MG owner even realises the lix to China.
完全同意，去他妈的。这车有点猥琐，更别提车的外观了。
我有时在想，你那些MG车主是否意识到这车与中国有牵连。
BeGoodAtReddit
MG is a brand owned by SAIC.
SAIC is a Chinese company owned by...
Shanghai's State-owned Assets Supervision and Administration Commission (71.2%)
So it's literally a CCP state owned company.
MG已经是上汽集团旗下品牌。
上汽集团是一家中国公司，由…
上海市国有资产监督管理委员会(占71.2%的股份)
所以它实际上已经属于中国国有企业。
MG is a brand owned by SAIC.
SAIC is a Chinese company owned by...
Shanghai's State-owned Assets Supervision and Administration Commission (71.2%)
So it's literally a CCP state owned company.
MG已经是上汽集团旗下品牌。
上汽集团是一家中国公司，由…
上海市国有资产监督管理委员会(占71.2%的股份)
所以它实际上已经属于中国国有企业。
ProfessionalMottsman
Go and pick up 10 electronics around your house. If less than 9 out of 10 say “made in China” I’ll give you a tenner
要是你在家附近买十个电子产品，如果有九个不是中国制造，我就给你10块钱
Go and pick up 10 electronics around your house. If less than 9 out of 10 say “made in China” I’ll give you a tenner
要是你在家附近买十个电子产品，如果有九个不是中国制造，我就给你10块钱
BeGoodAtReddit
That's the situation I want to avoid for cars, by not buying them from China.
It's entirely reasonably to want to support the little remaining UK manufacturing that still takes place. That's already not an option for electronics.
我会尽可能地不去买中国汽车
英国车本就不多，支持国产车理所应当。这跟电子产品没啥关系。
That's the situation I want to avoid for cars, by not buying them from China.
It's entirely reasonably to want to support the little remaining UK manufacturing that still takes place. That's already not an option for electronics.
我会尽可能地不去买中国汽车
英国车本就不多，支持国产车理所应当。这跟电子产品没啥关系。
BeGoodAtReddit
We should produce goods for Europe in Europe and leave China to do its own thing.
欧洲人就应该用欧洲生产的东西，让中国自个一边儿去玩吧。
We should produce goods for Europe in Europe and leave China to do its own thing.
欧洲人就应该用欧洲生产的东西，让中国自个一边儿去玩吧。
MercatorLondon
Volvo is currently owned by the Zhejiang Geely Holding Group.
沃尔沃这个牌子现在已经属于中国浙江吉利控股集团了
Volvo is currently owned by the Zhejiang Geely Holding Group.
沃尔沃这个牌子现在已经属于中国浙江吉利控股集团了
canyonstom
This is exactly what I came here to say, any Volvo built after around 2010 will be Chinese.
我进来就是想说，任何2010年以后生产的沃尔沃车都差不多已经是中国制造了。
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This is exactly what I came here to say, any Volvo built after around 2010 will be Chinese.
我进来就是想说，任何2010年以后生产的沃尔沃车都差不多已经是中国制造了。
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JustGarlicThings2
That’s like saying Jeeps and Fiat 500s are French. There are some Chinese made Volvos but they’re mostly built for the domestic market and exported to the US. Volvos you see in the UK will be designed in Sweden and made either there or Belgium.
这就像说吉普和菲亚特500是法国的一样。也有一些中国造的沃尔沃，但中国生产的沃尔沃大多是面向他们国家得国内市场，多生产出来的车才出口到美国。你在英国看到的沃尔沃是瑞典设计，并在那里或比利时生产的。
That’s like saying Jeeps and Fiat 500s are French. There are some Chinese made Volvos but they’re mostly built for the domestic market and exported to the US. Volvos you see in the UK will be designed in Sweden and made either there or Belgium.
这就像说吉普和菲亚特500是法国的一样。也有一些中国造的沃尔沃，但中国生产的沃尔沃大多是面向他们国家得国内市场，多生产出来的车才出口到美国。你在英国看到的沃尔沃是瑞典设计，并在那里或比利时生产的。
BlackHole6Cut
The new generation of Volvos that launched under Geely ,starting with the XC90 mk2 in 2015, have actually seen a sharp decline in reliability. Lots of electrical issues and sunroof leaks.
吉利旗下新推出的沃尔沃，从2015年的XC90 mk2开始，这牌子的车可靠性实际上已大为下降。总有些电子器件和天窗漏水等小毛病。
The new generation of Volvos that launched under Geely ,starting with the XC90 mk2 in 2015, have actually seen a sharp decline in reliability. Lots of electrical issues and sunroof leaks.
吉利旗下新推出的沃尔沃，从2015年的XC90 mk2开始，这牌子的车可靠性实际上已大为下降。总有些电子器件和天窗漏水等小毛病。
DYNAmixMelody
But they arent really Chinese designed or engineered to Chinese specifications. These Chinese car companies hire German and British engineers to design and engineer with the Western markets
这些品牌车并不是按中国标准设计制造的。这些车基本是中国车企雇负责西方市场的德国和英国工程师设计制造的
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But they arent really Chinese designed or engineered to Chinese specifications. These Chinese car companies hire German and British engineers to design and engineer with the Western markets
这些品牌车并不是按中国标准设计制造的。这些车基本是中国车企雇负责西方市场的德国和英国工程师设计制造的
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karl-rupecht-kroenen
Another reason i wouldn’t buy a new Volvo and you have to be careful of bmw some of there cars are now being built in china not Germany
还有个理由提醒我不要买新款沃尔沃，还有现在的宝马车，因为这些牌子的车都是在中国制造的，而不是在德国
Another reason i wouldn’t buy a new Volvo and you have to be careful of bmw some of there cars are now being built in china not Germany
还有个理由提醒我不要买新款沃尔沃，还有现在的宝马车，因为这些牌子的车都是在中国制造的，而不是在德国
inspectorgadget9999
I remember buying a Chinese 30,000 mah power bank that wouldn't even charge my phone up
我以前买过一个中国产3万毫安的充电宝，这玩意就从没给我手机充进去过电!
I remember buying a Chinese 30,000 mah power bank that wouldn't even charge my phone up
我以前买过一个中国产3万毫安的充电宝，这玩意就从没给我手机充进去过电!
Hot_Beef
Did you open said power bank up? It was probably a tiny one stuck inside a giant box.
充电宝上的开关你打开过了吗？那上面有个控制按钮
Did you open said power bank up? It was probably a tiny one stuck inside a giant box.
充电宝上的开关你打开过了吗？那上面有个控制按钮
Swearyman
I bought a new MG6 because it was really well equipped and comfortable to drive and great value. First MOT after 3 years. Here’s your 4K bill for stuff that needs replacing. I really liked the car but I will never buy an MG again.
我买过一辆新款MG6车，因为它配置豪华，驾驶舒适，性价比极高。3年后做过第一次车检保养需要换零件。可费用要4K英镑。我真的很喜欢MG车，但我以后再也不会买它了。
I bought a new MG6 because it was really well equipped and comfortable to drive and great value. First MOT after 3 years. Here’s your 4K bill for stuff that needs replacing. I really liked the car but I will never buy an MG again.
我买过一辆新款MG6车，因为它配置豪华，驾驶舒适，性价比极高。3年后做过第一次车检保养需要换零件。可费用要4K英镑。我真的很喜欢MG车，但我以后再也不会买它了。
sideone
What needed replacing, and how many miles had it done? Wasn't it covered by the warranty?
什么东西需要换，这车都跑了多少里程?，过保了么？
What needed replacing, and how many miles had it done? Wasn't it covered by the warranty?
什么东西需要换，这车都跑了多少里程?，过保了么？
evenstevens280
Car software is routinely shite. The only good one native one I've seen is Tesla.
If you can get something with Android Auto or Apple Carplay then I'd go for that every day of the week.
车上的软件一直都很垃圾，可本地产的特斯拉是个例外
要是能在Android Auto或Apple Carplay上买东西，那我肯定会天天用。
Car software is routinely shite. The only good one native one I've seen is Tesla.
If you can get something with Android Auto or Apple Carplay then I'd go for that every day of the week.
车上的软件一直都很垃圾，可本地产的特斯拉是个例外
要是能在Android Auto或Apple Carplay上买东西，那我肯定会天天用。
Unique_Luck_817
I do have an MG and honestly, I love it.
It’s good handling, economic, nice to drive. Yes, it’s a bit plasticky inside but that’s why it’s cheap.
我有一辆MG，老实说，我很喜欢。操控性好，经济实惠，开着感觉很不错。是的，里面的东西有些是塑料做的，这就是它便宜的原因。
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I do have an MG and honestly, I love it.
It’s good handling, economic, nice to drive. Yes, it’s a bit plasticky inside but that’s why it’s cheap.
我有一辆MG，老实说，我很喜欢。操控性好，经济实惠，开着感觉很不错。是的，里面的东西有些是塑料做的，这就是它便宜的原因。
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tomadshead
I can remember when people looked down on Japanese cars the way they looked down on Chinese cars now. This was the 70s and 80s. Then in the 90s they looked down on Korean cars. I would bet on Chinese manufacturers raising their game too. As another poster said, look for makers with dealer networks here, and also see what they offer for guarantees - there’s a famous article in economics about how car sellers use guarantees to signal quality
我还记得七八十年代时人们看不起日本车，就像他们现在看不起中国车一样。到了90年代，人们对韩国车的感觉也跟以前看日本车的感觉一样。我打赌中国制造商也会提高他们的水平。正如另一个帖子所说，在这里寻找有经销商网络的制造商，看看它们是否提供保修，《经济学人》上有一篇很有名的文章，说的是汽车销售商是如何通过保修来保持质量的
I can remember when people looked down on Japanese cars the way they looked down on Chinese cars now. This was the 70s and 80s. Then in the 90s they looked down on Korean cars. I would bet on Chinese manufacturers raising their game too. As another poster said, look for makers with dealer networks here, and also see what they offer for guarantees - there’s a famous article in economics about how car sellers use guarantees to signal quality
我还记得七八十年代时人们看不起日本车，就像他们现在看不起中国车一样。到了90年代，人们对韩国车的感觉也跟以前看日本车的感觉一样。我打赌中国制造商也会提高他们的水平。正如另一个帖子所说，在这里寻找有经销商网络的制造商，看看它们是否提供保修，《经济学人》上有一篇很有名的文章，说的是汽车销售商是如何通过保修来保持质量的
pip_goes_pop
The comparison with Korean cars is spot on. They were looked down upon in the 90s, and it's because they were shit, so it wasn't unjustified. They have now massively upped their game, got a good parts network, and are reliable and safe. I can see Chinese cars going the same way.
The main difference will be that unless China changes a lot politically people will still have deep reservations about chucking a great wodge of cash their way. Yes I know a lot of our equipment is made in China, but that's no reason not to avoid supporting the Chinese goverment where you can.
把中国车和韩国车比是个恰当的比喻。90年代的韩国车被人们看不上，以为韩国车是垃圾。韩国车企通过竞争生产出的汽车质量大大提高，韩国车4S店网络遍布服务完善，让韩国车变得安全可靠。可以预见中国汽车也将会是同样的经历。
最大区别在于，除非中国在政治上做出重大改变，否则人们购买中国高端消费品时会心存顾忌。
The comparison with Korean cars is spot on. They were looked down upon in the 90s, and it's because they were shit, so it wasn't unjustified. They have now massively upped their game, got a good parts network, and are reliable and safe. I can see Chinese cars going the same way.
The main difference will be that unless China changes a lot politically people will still have deep reservations about chucking a great wodge of cash their way. Yes I know a lot of our equipment is made in China, but that's no reason not to avoid supporting the Chinese goverment where you can.
把中国车和韩国车比是个恰当的比喻。90年代的韩国车被人们看不上，以为韩国车是垃圾。韩国车企通过竞争生产出的汽车质量大大提高，韩国车4S店网络遍布服务完善，让韩国车变得安全可靠。可以预见中国汽车也将会是同样的经历。
最大区别在于，除非中国在政治上做出重大改变，否则人们购买中国高端消费品时会心存顾忌。
Not_a_real_ghost
The main difference will be that unless China changes a lot politically people will still have deep reservations about chucking a great wodge of cash their way.
I don't see the same sentiment in real life compared to on Reddit. For example, I saw so many Chinese appliances in Europe and the USA I was so surprised. I still remember the first time I saw BYD buses being driven in Schiphol airport almost a decade ago and then on the street of London.
我在现实中没有看到有和网上一样说的抵触情绪。例如，欧美国家里有好多中国车，这让我很惊讶。我仍然记得大约10年前，在阿姆斯特丹国际机场第一次看到比亚迪公交车，后来这种车遍布伦敦街头。
The main difference will be that unless China changes a lot politically people will still have deep reservations about chucking a great wodge of cash their way.
I don't see the same sentiment in real life compared to on Reddit. For example, I saw so many Chinese appliances in Europe and the USA I was so surprised. I still remember the first time I saw BYD buses being driven in Schiphol airport almost a decade ago and then on the street of London.
我在现实中没有看到有和网上一样说的抵触情绪。例如，欧美国家里有好多中国车，这让我很惊讶。我仍然记得大约10年前，在阿姆斯特丹国际机场第一次看到比亚迪公交车，后来这种车遍布伦敦街头。
pip_goes_pop
You’re probably right - I think it’s more a distrust of quality on such an expensive item that’s most people’s stumbling block. That will change as more are seen on the roads though.
你可能是对的，我认为这更多的是对中国产高档消费品质量的不信任，大多数人都有这种心结。不过，随着大家赏越来越多中国汽车的出现，这种情况将会改变。
You’re probably right - I think it’s more a distrust of quality on such an expensive item that’s most people’s stumbling block. That will change as more are seen on the roads though.
你可能是对的，我认为这更多的是对中国产高档消费品质量的不信任，大多数人都有这种心结。不过，随着大家赏越来越多中国汽车的出现，这种情况将会改变。
HarassedGrandad
When Japanese motorcycles first arrived there were plenty of people who remembered what they'd done to POW's in the war. Now we have the revelations about 'comfort women' - and the Japanese government still refuse to acknowledge their war crimes.
And yet people aren't bothered about buying Japanese cars. Why should we view the CCP differently? (For that matter, BMW's war record wasn't great either)
日本摩托车刚来这里的时候，大家都知道日本在二战中的恶行。例如“慰安妇”，日本到现在还百般拒绝承认这个罪行。
可现在呢，人们对是不是日本车已经无所谓了。为什么我们要以不同的眼光看待中国?(比起日本车，宝马在二战中也扮演过不光彩的角色)
When Japanese motorcycles first arrived there were plenty of people who remembered what they'd done to POW's in the war. Now we have the revelations about 'comfort women' - and the Japanese government still refuse to acknowledge their war crimes.
And yet people aren't bothered about buying Japanese cars. Why should we view the CCP differently? (For that matter, BMW's war record wasn't great either)
日本摩托车刚来这里的时候，大家都知道日本在二战中的恶行。例如“慰安妇”，日本到现在还百般拒绝承认这个罪行。
可现在呢，人们对是不是日本车已经无所谓了。为什么我们要以不同的眼光看待中国?(比起日本车，宝马在二战中也扮演过不光彩的角色)
rugbyj
I can remember when people looked down on Japanese cars the way they looked down on Chinese cars now.
The difference is decades of proven reliability made the lower surface "quality" of those Japanese cars worth it. Korean cars are still having massive issues with this over in America where their engines are detonating regularly after 5000 miles and there's literally TikTok trends based around stealing them because they're too cheap to put immobilisers in them.
现在人们看不上中国车，就像当初人们看不上日本车一样的
不同的是，几十年的可靠性方面体只现在在“脆皮”方面。韩国车在美国仍然有很大的问题，韩国车发动机在跑了5000英里后经常爱爆缸，而且TikTok居然出现偷韩国车的教学视频，因为韩国车为降低成本，就连防盗器省掉不装了。
I can remember when people looked down on Japanese cars the way they looked down on Chinese cars now.
The difference is decades of proven reliability made the lower surface "quality" of those Japanese cars worth it. Korean cars are still having massive issues with this over in America where their engines are detonating regularly after 5000 miles and there's literally TikTok trends based around stealing them because they're too cheap to put immobilisers in them.
现在人们看不上中国车，就像当初人们看不上日本车一样的
不同的是，几十年的可靠性方面体只现在在“脆皮”方面。韩国车在美国仍然有很大的问题，韩国车发动机在跑了5000英里后经常爱爆缸，而且TikTok居然出现偷韩国车的教学视频，因为韩国车为降低成本，就连防盗器省掉不装了。
BlackHole6Cut
The Funky Cat is not cheap. The launch edition is £32k. I'd rather get a pug e208 for the same money.
欧拉的“好猫”车其实也没便宜哪去，先行版都卖到3.2万英镑了，同样的钱，我宁愿买台pug e208 车
The Funky Cat is not cheap. The launch edition is £32k. I'd rather get a pug e208 for the same money.
欧拉的“好猫”车其实也没便宜哪去，先行版都卖到3.2万英镑了，同样的钱，我宁愿买台pug e208 车
ignorancism
Honda E has an effective range of about 100 miles, the boot is barely big enough to fit a pack lunch in it.
本田E（俩轮电动车）的最大里程能有100英里，后备箱大小勉强能装下一份午餐。
Honda E has an effective range of about 100 miles, the boot is barely big enough to fit a pack lunch in it.
本田E（俩轮电动车）的最大里程能有100英里，后备箱大小勉强能装下一份午餐。
happymellon
You need to cut down on your lunch.
那你挺能吃啊
You need to cut down on your lunch.
那你挺能吃啊
ashyjay
Honda E is now close to £40k with the end of the EV grant.
随着电动汽车补贴结束，本田E现在卖价都快4万英镑了。
Honda E is now close to £40k with the end of the EV grant.
随着电动汽车补贴结束，本田E现在卖价都快4万英镑了。
BlackHole6Cut
Chinese cars typically aren't too reliable or well built. You're better off sticking your money with the Japanese or Germans.
中国车不可靠质量也一般。有钱的话最好还是买日本或德国车。
Chinese cars typically aren't too reliable or well built. You're better off sticking your money with the Japanese or Germans.
中国车不可靠质量也一般。有钱的话最好还是买日本或德国车。
RenuisanceMan
German cars aren't particularly reliable, maybe mercs from the 70s and 80s were but half of the myth comes from wealthy owners taking good care of them.
德国车也强不了多少， 7、80年代奔驰车确实不错，但质量神话有一半是是富有的车主对车的精心保养。
German cars aren't particularly reliable, maybe mercs from the 70s and 80s were but half of the myth comes from wealthy owners taking good care of them.
德国车也强不了多少， 7、80年代奔驰车确实不错，但质量神话有一半是是富有的车主对车的精心保养。
BlackHole6Cut
German cars took a dip in the "00s, but generally straightened up again in the "10s. Issue is lots of people don't take care of their German cars well enough, and also relate expensive parts to unreliability. Truth is, once a BMW is 10 years old and has been through 5 owners, nobody is maintaining it as they should, so it becomes a shitbox.
德国汽车质量自从00年就开始滑坡，但在2010时年又上来了。问题是很多人对自己的德国车保养得不好，而且还把昂贵配件和不耐操得特性联系起来。事实上，一旦宝马开了10年，换了5个车主，就没人有心思去保养它了，所以它就变成了个垃圾。
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German cars took a dip in the "00s, but generally straightened up again in the "10s. Issue is lots of people don't take care of their German cars well enough, and also relate expensive parts to unreliability. Truth is, once a BMW is 10 years old and has been through 5 owners, nobody is maintaining it as they should, so it becomes a shitbox.
德国汽车质量自从00年就开始滑坡，但在2010时年又上来了。问题是很多人对自己的德国车保养得不好，而且还把昂贵配件和不耐操得特性联系起来。事实上，一旦宝马开了10年，换了5个车主，就没人有心思去保养它了，所以它就变成了个垃圾。
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ding_dong_dejong
Toyota and Honda*, Nissan, Mitsubishi and Subaru are hunks of shit
丰田、本田、日产、三菱和斯巴鲁都很垃圾
Toyota and Honda*, Nissan, Mitsubishi and Subaru are hunks of shit
丰田、本田、日产、三菱和斯巴鲁都很垃圾
Yesterday__W
Everything else we buy is cheap shite that falls apart in a year so you are forced to buy another one. Fancy that with your cars?
便宜没好货，图便宜买的车，开一年就坏了，到时你还得再换一台
Everything else we buy is cheap shite that falls apart in a year so you are forced to buy another one. Fancy that with your cars?
便宜没好货，图便宜买的车，开一年就坏了，到时你还得再换一台
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throwawaynewc
I think it looks pretty good!
我觉他们的车外形看起来挺好看的
throwawaynewc
I think it looks pretty good!
我觉他们的车外形看起来挺好看的
jonewer
Looks like the illegitimate love child of a Porsche and a Nissan Micra
看起来像是保时捷和尼桑Micra的私生子
Looks like the illegitimate love child of a Porsche and a Nissan Micra
看起来像是保时捷和尼桑Micra的私生子
smoopoopdewoop
I like how it looks like a mini and at the same time nothing like a mini.
Chinese design copying at its finest.
我喜欢它看起来像mini，但同时又不像mini。
中国仿制技术是最牛P的
I like how it looks like a mini and at the same time nothing like a mini.
Chinese design copying at its finest.
我喜欢它看起来像mini，但同时又不像mini。
中国仿制技术是最牛P的
Brief-Original
I had a brief drive of an Mg4 last month, it was decent- especially for the price, CarPlay and adaptive cruise control in a base spec model is bloody good progress IMO, so I’d say ‘yes, but only just’
上个月我试开了一辆Mg4，感觉还不错，尤其就价格而言，这辆车得标配居然带CarPlay和自适应巡航，着实令人惊喜，但我会说“是的，也就这样吧”。
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I had a brief drive of an Mg4 last month, it was decent- especially for the price, CarPlay and adaptive cruise control in a base spec model is bloody good progress IMO, so I’d say ‘yes, but only just’
上个月我试开了一辆Mg4，感觉还不错，尤其就价格而言，这辆车得标配居然带CarPlay和自适应巡航，着实令人惊喜，但我会说“是的，也就这样吧”。
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The_Wanderer25
China has recently been found/theorised to be hacking the ECU's on their cars. Yeah, no thanks.
中国发现可以骇入车上的ECU（电子控制单元）通过后台改代码，所以，我是不买，谢谢
China has recently been found/theorised to be hacking the ECU's on their cars. Yeah, no thanks.
中国发现可以骇入车上的ECU（电子控制单元）通过后台改代码，所以，我是不买，谢谢
Salty-Development203
What do you mean by this? They don't have to hack their own ECU ... They own the code that goes on it so can change it as they like anyway?
你想说什么??他们有必要骇入自己家车里ECU么…ECU里的程序代码就是他们写的，所以他们想怎么改就怎么改?
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What do you mean by this? They don't have to hack their own ECU ... They own the code that goes on it so can change it as they like anyway?
你想说什么??他们有必要骇入自己家车里ECU么…ECU里的程序代码就是他们写的，所以他们想怎么改就怎么改?
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anomalous_cowherd
I think they mean tracking you and ing home.
我想这家伙的意思是会被跟踪吧。
I think they mean tracking you and ing home.
我想这家伙的意思是会被跟踪吧。
karl-rupecht-kroenen
All new cars have to be connected to the internet somehow I think it’s a eu law, it’s all for tracking crash data, speeding plus there is talk of being able to shut the car down if being used illegally or say your are behind on payments (for future use)
所有的新车都必须能连网，这是欧盟法律规定的，这都是为了收集碰撞数据，判断车辆是否超速，还有一种说法是，如果你车被非法使用或是还没完车贷，车子会被锁住没法开的。
All new cars have to be connected to the internet somehow I think it’s a eu law, it’s all for tracking crash data, speeding plus there is talk of being able to shut the car down if being used illegally or say your are behind on payments (for future use)
所有的新车都必须能连网，这是欧盟法律规定的，这都是为了收集碰撞数据，判断车辆是否超速，还有一种说法是，如果你车被非法使用或是还没完车贷，车子会被锁住没法开的。
sideone
Who pays for the data connection on new cars?
那谁来给新车上网所产生的通讯流量费买单啊?
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Who pays for the data connection on new cars?
那谁来给新车上网所产生的通讯流量费买单啊?
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karl-rupecht-kroenen
It runs off the same system as like bmw have call assistance then have built in sim in a module on the car
跟宝马的紧急呼叫辅助系统差不多，车里电子模块里内置了手机（sim）卡
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It runs off the same system as like bmw have call assistance then have built in sim in a module on the car
跟宝马的紧急呼叫辅助系统差不多，车里电子模块里内置了手机（sim）卡
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Salty-Development203
Wasn't aware that there's legislation for cars to be connected to the internet. But implementing a back door on a piece of connected hardware is probably more common than we like to think regardless of coming from China, US or Europe!!
没听说有法律规定汽车要联网。当然车里硬件预留后门的情况可能比我们想象的更常见，无论这车是中国产、美国产还是欧洲产的!!
Wasn't aware that there's legislation for cars to be connected to the internet. But implementing a back door on a piece of connected hardware is probably more common than we like to think regardless of coming from China, US or Europe!!
没听说有法律规定汽车要联网。当然车里硬件预留后门的情况可能比我们想象的更常见，无论这车是中国产、美国产还是欧洲产的!!
Cultural_Tank_6947
I drive a made in China Tesla. Does that count?
我开的是中国产的特斯拉，这算是哪的车？
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I drive a made in China Tesla. Does that count?
我开的是中国产的特斯拉，这算是哪的车？
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Technical-Mechanic56
I wouldn’t buy a car from any country that supports Russia’s invasion of Ukraine and continues to joint military drills as a show of unity.
我绝不会买支持俄罗斯入侵乌克兰，且还与俄罗斯联合军演彰显团结的国家生产的车
I wouldn’t buy a car from any country that supports Russia’s invasion of Ukraine and continues to joint military drills as a show of unity.
我绝不会买支持俄罗斯入侵乌克兰，且还与俄罗斯联合军演彰显团结的国家生产的车
ItDoesntMatter59
Sent on my chinese made device whilst drinking tea from my Chinese kettle
你完全可以不用中国茶具喝茶，发帖不用中国产电脑
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Sent on my chinese made device whilst drinking tea from my Chinese kettle
你完全可以不用中国茶具喝茶，发帖不用中国产电脑
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Technical-Mechanic56
I get your point but neither is a car and there a few alternatives for those products. So your argument doesn’t really hold up that well.
我知道你想说啥，但我的意思是车子有很多替代品牌的
I get your point but neither is a car and there a few alternatives for those products. So your argument doesn’t really hold up that well.
我知道你想说啥，但我的意思是车子有很多替代品牌的
SeeJayThinks
The only one I would buy soon is Nio. Premium, luxury car, with all the right specs and tech for an EV car, without too big a price tag.
It'll be awhile before it breaks into the UK though. Potentially even longer where I am now (UAE).
I've been a fan of them since their conception, and have seen their cars in person when I was working in Shanghai. Feels on par with the Audi range. There are grey imports here in the UAE, great car but its their added services which makes it great - Nio house, battery swap, road side assistance etc, so not worth getting the grey imports, for now.
So yes, I would buy a Chinese car - but it'll have to be the right one. Much like how I own Chinese Android phones, but making sure they're good quality ones.
买蔚来车绝对是我的首选，这车非常豪华，配置高、技术先进，拥有电动车所应有的一切
不过，这车进入英国市场可能还需要等一段时间。在我这里(阿联酋)等的时间可能还要更长。
从他们概念车出现开始，我就一直是他们的粉丝，我在上海工作时曾亲眼见过他们的车。感觉与奥迪系列差不多。阿联酋进口过灰色蔚来车，这车真的很棒，好多附加服务，比如电池更换，道路救援等，让这车变得更棒，可惜目前还买不到。所以，是的，我会买中国车——但它必须符合我的预期。就像我拥有中国安卓手机一样，但要确保它们高质高量。
The only one I would buy soon is Nio. Premium, luxury car, with all the right specs and tech for an EV car, without too big a price tag.
It'll be awhile before it breaks into the UK though. Potentially even longer where I am now (UAE).
I've been a fan of them since their conception, and have seen their cars in person when I was working in Shanghai. Feels on par with the Audi range. There are grey imports here in the UAE, great car but its their added services which makes it great - Nio house, battery swap, road side assistance etc, so not worth getting the grey imports, for now.
So yes, I would buy a Chinese car - but it'll have to be the right one. Much like how I own Chinese Android phones, but making sure they're good quality ones.
买蔚来车绝对是我的首选，这车非常豪华，配置高、技术先进，拥有电动车所应有的一切
不过，这车进入英国市场可能还需要等一段时间。在我这里(阿联酋)等的时间可能还要更长。
从他们概念车出现开始，我就一直是他们的粉丝，我在上海工作时曾亲眼见过他们的车。感觉与奥迪系列差不多。阿联酋进口过灰色蔚来车，这车真的很棒，好多附加服务，比如电池更换，道路救援等，让这车变得更棒，可惜目前还买不到。所以，是的，我会买中国车——但它必须符合我的预期。就像我拥有中国安卓手机一样，但要确保它们高质高量。
fillip2k
Chances are that a lot of people are already driving a Chinese car. They just don't know it. Volvo, MG, Lotus, smart cars, black cabs...
可能很多人都不知道自己开的车已经是中国车了。比如沃尔沃、MG、莲花、奔驰的smart cars、黑色出租……
Chances are that a lot of people are already driving a Chinese car. They just don't know it. Volvo, MG, Lotus, smart cars, black cabs...
可能很多人都不知道自己开的车已经是中国车了。比如沃尔沃、MG、莲花、奔驰的smart cars、黑色出租……
SnooCats9409
I’ve bought an MG recently. Fantastic interior. Looks great and is very comfortable. Leather heated seats as standard and a decent price so good value there. My only gripe is the user interface for the radio/nav/all settings really. It’s slow and clunky. Often turns itself off randomly. Sometimes freezes. Cheapens the car really. If they sorted this I would be 100% happy with the car. If not, I wouldn’t buy MG again.
我最近买了一辆MG。内部空间很大。看起来很棒，很舒服。皮革加热座椅是标配和价格公道，物有所值。我唯一的不满是中控台界面，里面的无线电/导航/所有设置反应有些迟钝。经常自动关机。界面有事还卡住不动。但这车真的很便宜。如果他们解决了这个问题，我会对这辆车百分之百满意。否则，我就不会再买MG车了。
I’ve bought an MG recently. Fantastic interior. Looks great and is very comfortable. Leather heated seats as standard and a decent price so good value there. My only gripe is the user interface for the radio/nav/all settings really. It’s slow and clunky. Often turns itself off randomly. Sometimes freezes. Cheapens the car really. If they sorted this I would be 100% happy with the car. If not, I wouldn’t buy MG again.
我最近买了一辆MG。内部空间很大。看起来很棒，很舒服。皮革加热座椅是标配和价格公道，物有所值。我唯一的不满是中控台界面，里面的无线电/导航/所有设置反应有些迟钝。经常自动关机。界面有事还卡住不动。但这车真的很便宜。如果他们解决了这个问题，我会对这辆车百分之百满意。否则，我就不会再买MG车了。
grubbygeorge
Sounds pretty good to be honest. I mean you have the same software issues in Volkswagen IDs. My brother used to have one and complained about the car's system crashing completely several times.
I reckon both MG and Volkswagen will sort out their software issues eventually.
说实话，听起来不错。我的意思是，大众车也有同样的软件问题。我哥以前就有一辆，但这车操控界面老卡死，我都听他抱怨过好多次了。我认为MG和大众最终都能解决车子上软件方面的问题。
Sounds pretty good to be honest. I mean you have the same software issues in Volkswagen IDs. My brother used to have one and complained about the car's system crashing completely several times.
I reckon both MG and Volkswagen will sort out their software issues eventually.
说实话，听起来不错。我的意思是，大众车也有同样的软件问题。我哥以前就有一辆，但这车操控界面老卡死，我都听他抱怨过好多次了。我认为MG和大众最终都能解决车子上软件方面的问题。
Ghostdr1
Audi and Volkswagen are now Chinese and most are made in China.
现在奥迪和大众车大多数也都是在中国生产的。
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Audi and Volkswagen are now Chinese and most are made in China.
现在奥迪和大众车大多数也都是在中国生产的。
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BlackHole6Cut
That's bullshit my friend. Only Audis/VWs built for the Chinese market are built there, and that's due to the way company ownership and manufacturing works in China.
Their cars that are shipped globally are typically made in Germany, Mexico (for NA), and a few other European countries.
瞎说，中国产的大众奥迪车是专供中国国内的。这是由于中国公司股权和制造业的运作方式有关。大众奥迪车销往全球的车通常是在德国、墨西哥(北美)和其他一些欧洲国家生产的。
That's bullshit my friend. Only Audis/VWs built for the Chinese market are built there, and that's due to the way company ownership and manufacturing works in China.
Their cars that are shipped globally are typically made in Germany, Mexico (for NA), and a few other European countries.
瞎说，中国产的大众奥迪车是专供中国国内的。这是由于中国公司股权和制造业的运作方式有关。大众奥迪车销往全球的车通常是在德国、墨西哥(北美)和其他一些欧洲国家生产的。
grgext
I'd buy a Polestar. Quality in China can vary like anything else, the key is good QA.
我会买北极星车。中国车质量和其他地方产的车确实有差异，但主要看是谁家的质量好。
I'd buy a Polestar. Quality in China can vary like anything else, the key is good QA.
我会买北极星车。中国车质量和其他地方产的车确实有差异，但主要看是谁家的质量好。
Analogue-thingy
If the west keeps relying on China to manufacture, and we keep buying more and more from China, then what left do we have to make here, we’ll all be beauty technicians and sales advisers. I’m in manufacturing, I try to buy as much as possible that’s made here or EU, Japan, etc.
如果西方继续依赖中国制造，继续买越来越多的中国货，那我们还能有好工作么，大家都去当美容师和销售顾问？？我的工作跟制造业有关，所以我会尽可能地买美国或欧盟、日本等国家生产的产品。
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If the west keeps relying on China to manufacture, and we keep buying more and more from China, then what left do we have to make here, we’ll all be beauty technicians and sales advisers. I’m in manufacturing, I try to buy as much as possible that’s made here or EU, Japan, etc.
如果西方继续依赖中国制造，继续买越来越多的中国货，那我们还能有好工作么，大家都去当美容师和销售顾问？？我的工作跟制造业有关，所以我会尽可能地买美国或欧盟、日本等国家生产的产品。
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bobdvb
I tried the MG ZS EV, lovely drive, would happily buy an MG.
I currently have a Hyundai Ioniq EV but I am thinking about my next electric car.
The BYD Atto 4 looks really good value and BYD is one of the biggest brands in China. I concerns about spare parts availability and maintenance, but frankly, with an EV those things are less concerning as there's less to go wrong.
Can't decide between Kia, Hyundai or something Chinese, but I am almost certainly not buying a Western brand, they're falling behind. The Japanese brands are so far behind in terms of EVs that I wouldn't hold out hope for their survival in the next decade.
我试过MG ZS EV，这车开起来很舒服，很想买台MG车。
我现在有一辆现代Ioniq EV，但现在我想换一台电动车。
比亚迪Atto 4看起来真的很超值，比亚迪是中国最大的品牌之一。我担心备件和维护，但坦率地说，对于电动汽车来说，这些事不难解决，因为问题出现的可能性极小。
不知道起亚、现代现在是不是归中国品牌，但我几乎肯定不会买西方牌子的电动车，因为西方电动车已经落后了。日本电动车被甩得更远，我对日本电动车能否活过下一个十年不抱希望。
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I tried the MG ZS EV, lovely drive, would happily buy an MG.
I currently have a Hyundai Ioniq EV but I am thinking about my next electric car.
The BYD Atto 4 looks really good value and BYD is one of the biggest brands in China. I concerns about spare parts availability and maintenance, but frankly, with an EV those things are less concerning as there's less to go wrong.
Can't decide between Kia, Hyundai or something Chinese, but I am almost certainly not buying a Western brand, they're falling behind. The Japanese brands are so far behind in terms of EVs that I wouldn't hold out hope for their survival in the next decade.
我试过MG ZS EV，这车开起来很舒服，很想买台MG车。
我现在有一辆现代Ioniq EV，但现在我想换一台电动车。
比亚迪Atto 4看起来真的很超值，比亚迪是中国最大的品牌之一。我担心备件和维护，但坦率地说，对于电动汽车来说，这些事不难解决，因为问题出现的可能性极小。
不知道起亚、现代现在是不是归中国品牌，但我几乎肯定不会买西方牌子的电动车，因为西方电动车已经落后了。日本电动车被甩得更远，我对日本电动车能否活过下一个十年不抱希望。
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Wigglypops
Having lived in China there is no way in hell I would buy a Chinese car.
在以前在中国呆过，我肯定不会买中国车。
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Having lived in China there is no way in hell I would buy a Chinese car.
在以前在中国呆过，我肯定不会买中国车。
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eighths1n
Living in China, I definitely would. A lot has changed.
Neo ES8, Li L9, BYD seal, HongQi H9, etc... All competitive vehicles, on par with - or exceeding - legacy automaker equivalents.
如果我现在还在中国，我肯定会买。好多事情已经发生天翻地覆的变化。
Neo ES8、Li L9、比亚迪的海豹、红旗H9等…这些车相当具有竞争力，在性价比上，已经、或超过传统车企。
Living in China, I definitely would. A lot has changed.
Neo ES8, Li L9, BYD seal, HongQi H9, etc... All competitive vehicles, on par with - or exceeding - legacy automaker equivalents.
如果我现在还在中国，我肯定会买。好多事情已经发生天翻地覆的变化。
Neo ES8、Li L9、比亚迪的海豹、红旗H9等…这些车相当具有竞争力，在性价比上，已经、或超过传统车企。
HarassedGrandad
You know UK import Teslas are made in China?
大家可知道英国进口的特斯拉是中国制造的吗?
You know UK import Teslas are made in China?
大家可知道英国进口的特斯拉是中国制造的吗?
GLIXKYWITME
I’ve never had a car that wasn’t a used German car. Maybe if china builds a nice v8 powered luxury sedan I’ll consider it, but I’d Korean or Japanese before Chinese.
我买的车基本都是德国二手车。也许如果中国能造出一辆v8动力的豪华轿车，我会考虑的，但我更喜欢韩国和日本车。
I’ve never had a car that wasn’t a used German car. Maybe if china builds a nice v8 powered luxury sedan I’ll consider it, but I’d Korean or Japanese before Chinese.
我买的车基本都是德国二手车。也许如果中国能造出一辆v8动力的豪华轿车，我会考虑的，但我更喜欢韩国和日本车。
phoenix_73
If they're very good and very cheap, would have one. My preference on cars has always been Toyota though.
Many thing are made in China such as the Apple iPhone which many people have. We don't question the quality of the iPhone (except for anti-Apple people) so should apply same theory to the cars coming from there.
如果中国车质优价廉，我就会买。不过，我对一直对丰田车情有独钟。
这里好多东西都是中国造，比如不少人用的都是中国产的苹果手机。我们从不怀疑苹果手机的质量(除了讨厌苹果的人)，所以同理，这也应该适用于中国车车。
If they're very good and very cheap, would have one. My preference on cars has always been Toyota though.
Many thing are made in China such as the Apple iPhone which many people have. We don't question the quality of the iPhone (except for anti-Apple people) so should apply same theory to the cars coming from there.
如果中国车质优价廉，我就会买。不过，我对一直对丰田车情有独钟。
这里好多东西都是中国造，比如不少人用的都是中国产的苹果手机。我们从不怀疑苹果手机的质量(除了讨厌苹果的人)，所以同理，这也应该适用于中国车车。
Confused_Gengar
As a note every car has parts made in China, so in a way every car is part chinese
大家所不知道的是，几乎所有车都有中国产的零件，所以在某种程度上，每辆车都有一部分是中国制造
As a note every car has parts made in China, so in a way every car is part chinese
大家所不知道的是，几乎所有车都有中国产的零件，所以在某种程度上，每辆车都有一部分是中国制造
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