网友讨论:055的服役是中国400年来第一次在军事技术上领先西方
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网友讨论:055的服役是中国400年来第一次在军事技术上领先西方

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Tomy Chang
Follow upxed Oct 12
This is the most sophisticated and largest arsenal on water.
This is the first time in 400 years, China is ahead of the West in military technology.
You can see the picture how large that destroyer is.

这是最先进,最大的水上武器库
这是400年来中国第一次在军事技术上领先西方国家。
从上面的图片中你可以看到这艘驱逐舰有多么的大。

Michael Hood
· Sep 19
There are two kinds of ships in the world, submarines and targets!

这个世界上只有两类船,一种是潜艇,另一种是潜艇的靶子。

Zinserhöhung
· Sep 19
Bigger Than A U.S. Navy AEGIS Cruiser: China Is Building More Type-055s
The Type-055 Renhai Class is in many ways the Chinese Navy's (PLAN) answer to the U.S. Navy's AEGIS cruisers. Large and well armed, they play a leading role escorting China's aircraft carriers. New intelligence suggests that another batch of these warships is being built.

055吨位超过了美国宙斯盾巡洋舰,中国正在建造更多的055驱逐舰
055任海级驱逐舰在很多方面是中国海军用来应对美国海军的宙斯盾巡洋舰的。它们体型庞大,装备精良,在护卫中国航母方面发挥着主导作用。最新情报表明另一批055驱逐舰正在建造之中。

Thunder Paw AJ
· Sep 23
Do you suggest that all US carriers are targets for the Chinese and Russian submarines? In addition to submarines, I’d add “hypersonic missiles with 100% accuracy”. We all should encourage peace at all cost as no one wins in a technological warfare. Even the president’s sons and daughters are not safe from war!

你的意思是所有的美国航母都是中国和俄罗斯潜艇的目标?能够对美国航母构成威胁的除了潜艇以外,还有精确度达到100%的高超音速导弹。我们应该不遗余力的去倡导和平,因为在高科技战争中,没有人能够成为赢家。即便是总统的儿子和女儿也无法在战争中幸免遇难。

Zinserhöhung
· Sep 19
“Chinese are building a true cruiser, the Type 055, with 8 already launched and at least two more underconstruction. Sources suggest China will build at least eight more.
Here are some basic comparative specs for the Type 055 and the Burke.
Burke Type 055
Length, ft 509 590
Displacement, tons 9,100 13,000
Range, nm 4,400 5,000
VLS, cells 96 112
The specs show that the Type 055 is significantly larger although the radar and weapons are reasonably similar in number and capability…
That aside, the Type 055 appears to be larger, carries more weapon cells, and has more growth potential. The Type 055 is setting the standard for modern cruisers while the US Navy continues to build sub-optimal, nearly obsolete Burkes.”

中国正在建造真正的巡洋舰(055),目前有八艘已经下水,至少有两艘正在建造之中。有消息称中国将至少再建造八艘055。
以下是055驱逐舰和伯克级驱逐舰的一些基础参数的对比
伯克舰长509英尺,055驱逐舰590英尺
伯克排水量9100吨,055排水量13000吨
伯克航程4400海里,055航程5000海里
伯克垂直发射单元96个,055垂直发射单元112个
参数显示055明显更大,但是双方在雷达和武器的数量和性能上差不多
除此以外,055似乎更大,能够携带更多的武器单元,拥有更大的发展潜力。055巡洋舰正在为现代巡洋舰制定标准,而美国海军却继续在建造次一级的,几乎已经过时了的伯克级驱逐舰。

Alexander Hunter
· Sep 21
‘Sub optimal nearly obsolete’ man all the people working on Burke Block IIIs are laughing at you right now hahaha

“次一级的,几乎已经过时了的伯克级驱逐舰”
伙计,伯克Block III上面的所有船员现在肯定都在嘲笑你哈哈

Zinserhöhung
· Sep 21
US’ New Generation Destroyer DDG-X appears to have taken a few design cues from China’s Type 055 cruiser. The US unveiled its New Generation Destroyer (DDG-X) design, which aims to replace its 22 Ticonderoga class cruisers and older versions of its Arleigh Burke destroyers.

美国新一代驱逐舰DDG-X似乎借鉴了中国055巡洋舰的一些设计元素。美国已经公布了其新一代驱逐舰(DDG-X)的设计,美国建造这款驱逐舰的目的就是为了取代22艘提康德罗加级巡洋舰和老旧的伯克级驱逐舰。

Tell The Effing Truth
· Nov 4
I guess you've never heard of anti-submarine warfare? When destroyers got their name what do you think they were destroying? It's very often the sub that is quarry

我想你应该从来都没有听说过反潜战吧?当人们将其命名为驱逐舰(destroyers)的时候,你认为它们要摧毁的目标是什么?潜艇往往只是驱逐舰的猎物。

R Collins
· Sep 19
No. It isn’t. Stop with the hyperbole. It has a similar role to the Ticonderoga class cruisers with a similar (though a bit more varied) capability of the Arleigh Burke. They are incredibly powerful ships, the largest and most advanced to come out of Asia since WW2.
But the world's most powerful warship is not the 055, but the Ford-class aircraft carrier.

不,055不是最先进的,不要再夸夸其谈了。055的作用和提康德罗加级巡洋舰类似,其性能和伯克级驱逐舰相当(但055的能力更加多样化)。它们是令人难以置信的强大战舰,是二战以来亚洲最大,最先进的战舰。
但是全球最强战舰不是055,而是福特级航母。

Tell The Effing Truth
· Sep 19
Arleigh Burke is not as powerful as this I've heard.

据我所知,伯克级驱逐舰没有那么强大

Ashlyn Garza
· Sep 23
It's true, the Burke doesn't have quite as much firepower, at 96 VLS cells vs 112.
But China may only build 14 055 destroyers at most. There are currently 72 Burkes in service.

是的,伯克级驱逐舰没有那么强大的火力,它的垂直发射单元只有96个,而055是112个。
但是中国最多或许只会建造14艘055驱逐舰。而美国目前有72艘伯克级驱逐舰服役。

Christian Thames
· Oct 25
all 72 gathering in south china sea?

72艘伯克级驱逐舰都聚集在南海吗?

Vijaya Leedon
· Sep 19
Of all Destroyer and cruisers. The 055 and the Ford class carriers are not the same type of warship.

现在对比的是在所有的驱逐舰和巡洋舰中最强大的是哪一种军舰。055和福特级航母不是同一种类型的军舰。
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Henry Wang
· Sep 19
The Ticonderoga and Arleigh Burke are well equipped body guards for carriers.
The Type 055 is designed for a completely different mission type.

提康德罗加级巡洋舰和阿利伯克级驱逐舰是装备精良的航母护卫
055是为完全不同的任务类型而设计出来的驱逐舰

Patrick Koh
· Sep 19
The 055 is not the strongest destroyer in the world. There are many countries with destroyers as powerful or even more powerful than the 055.

055不是世界上最强的驱逐舰。有很多国家的驱逐舰和055一样强大或者甚至比它更强。
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Zinserhöhung
· Sep 19
Type 055 destroyer is ranked the best destroyer in the world, it has vertical missile launchers that other destroyers don’t have.

055驱逐舰被评为是世界上最好的驱逐舰,它具备其他驱逐舰所没有的垂直发射装置

Arijit Kanrar
· Sep 19
If you care to do a little bit of research, you'll realise that MANY other destroyer and frigate and even corvette classes in the world have VLS cells (“vertical missile launchers”).
The Type 55 has a large number of them no doubt.

如果你去稍微研究一下的话,你就会发现世界上很多其他的驱逐舰,护卫舰,甚至是轻型护卫舰也都有垂直发射单元
当然,毫无疑问,055的垂直发射单元数量很多。

Lim San
· Sep 19
The VLS of 55 is a bit different.
It can hot launch or cold launch, and can launch different missile types.

055的垂直发射系统和其他国家的有一点不一样
055可以进行热发射也可以进行冷发射,而且可以发射不同的导弹类型。

Robert G O Doyle
· Oct 17
Have no idea what hot or cold launch means.

什么是冷发射,什么是热发射?

Lim San
· Oct 17
Take a simple example is watch Russian missile firing and US missile firing (generally).
Hot launch means the missile fires up and blast off from the tube. Cold launch means the missile is popped out of the tube, then the rocket engine ignites in mid air and flies off.

举个简单的例子,只要看看俄罗斯和美国的导弹发射就知道了。
热发射指的是导弹从发射管点火发射升空。冷发射指的是导弹从发射管弹射出去后,火箭发动机在半空中点火起飞。

Paraskevas Psarrakis
· Oct 31
cold launch is you eject the missile upwards with some kind of pressurized gas,then the missile ignites in mid air so you dont destroy the equipment that much in a case of faillure XD

冷发射就是你用某种加压气体把导弹向上弹射出去,然后导弹在半空中点火,这样即便发射失败,也不会对装备造成伤害。

Felix Su
· Sep 19
China’s VLS launchers are much bigger than other nations. They’re big enough to put a IRBM inside or 4 medium range SAMs.

中国055的垂直发射器要比其他国家的大很多。大到可以放置一枚中程弹道导弹和四枚中程防空导弹。

Zinserhöhung
· Sep 19
“Displacing 12,000 to 13,000 tons, China’s Type 055 is bigger than typical destroyers (it is nearer in size to the US Navy’s Ticonderoga class of cruisers).
It has 112 vertical launch system (VLS) cells that fire surface-to-air and anti-ship missiles, which is more than the 96 on the newest of the US Navy’s Arleigh Burke-class destroyers. It also boasts sophisticated radio and anti-submarine weapons systems.
China is building a lot of these ships. It began building the Type 055s in 2014 and recently commissioned its eighth, the xianyang. The US’s work on its Zumwalt-class destroyers has been much slower; construction began five years earlier, yet only two have entered service.
But some Western analysts say the Type 055 may have a peer in South Korea’s Sejong the Great-class destroyers.
At 10,000 to 12,000 tons displacement, the Sejongs are slightly smaller than China’s Type 055s, but they have more firepower, with 128 VLS cells and weapons that include surface-to-air, anti-submarine and cruise missiles.”

中国055的排水量在12000吨到13000吨之间,比传统的驱逐舰要更大一些(它的吨位更加接近美国的提康德罗加级巡洋舰)
它有112个垂直发射单元,超过美国阿利伯克级的96个,可以发射地对空导弹和反舰导弹。它还拥有先进的无线电和反潜武器系统。
中国正在大量建造这类战舰。055驱逐舰始建于2014年,第八艘咸阳舰于最近刚刚服役。而美国朱姆沃尔特驱逐舰要比055早5年开始建造,但美国的建造速度比中国慢很多,至今只有两艘朱姆沃尔特服役
但是一些西方分析人士认为中国055或许和韩国的世宗大王号不相上下。
韩国世宗大王号驱逐舰排水量在10000吨到12000吨之间,比中国055略微小一点,但是世宗大王号拥有更强的火力,它们拥有128个垂直发射单元,可以携带的武器包括有地对空导弹,反潜导弹和巡航导弹。

Patrick Koh
· Sep 19
The 055 is equipped with all kinds of weapons and technology, and the ship is also very good-looking. I wonder if Russia or Iran are keen to buy it?

055上面装备了各种武器和技术,而且这艘船还非常的好看。不知道俄罗斯和伊朗是否有意购买?

Tomy Chang
· Sep 19
This is not forsale….

055是不卖的。

Tim Sargent
· Sep 19
“it has vertical missile launchers that other destroyers don’t have.”
The US Arleigh Burke class (among others) have had VLS.
Maybe it’s the first Chinese warship to have VLS?

“它拥有其他驱逐舰所没有的垂直发射器”
美国阿利伯克(和其他)驱逐舰都拥有垂直发射系统
或许这是中国第一艘拥有垂直发射系统的军舰?

Redrabbit Liu
· Sep 19
It has the VL system equipped with a much larger unit, which means it can launch more deadly weapons that other destroyers could not. The diameter of each VL unit is 850mm, which is large enough to launch ASBM with >5 Mach velocity, 1000+Km range, and 100kg+ warhead.

055垂直发射系统的发射单元体积更大一些,这意味着055可以发射更加致命的武器,而其他驱逐舰则不行。每个垂直发射单元的直径达到了850毫米,可以发射重达100公斤弹头,射程在1000公里以上,速度超过5马赫的反舰弹道导弹。

Dave Clements
· Oct 7
USN had vertical launch in the 80’s

美国海军在上世纪80年代就已经有了垂直发射系统。

Can Terzioğlu
· Sep 19
The US and UK Fleet will beat the shit out of you. Do not brag with a destroyer. Brag with a carrier craft.

美国和英国舰队会把你们打的屁滚尿流。别拿驱逐舰来吹牛。要吹就吹航母。

Wansai Ounkeo
· Sep 19
Carriers are useful, but for China, they are less useful as China’s fleet is tasked with protecting the mainland and not expeditionary missions.
The reason the US has so many carriers is because it intends to wage war on other nation’s soil. For the US, the carrier matters a whole lot more.

航母确实很有用,但是对于中国来说,航母的用途没有那么大,因为中国舰队的任务是保护大陆,而不是进行远征。
美国拥有那么多航母的原因是因为美国打算在其他国家的土地上发动战争。因此对于美国来说,航母要重要的多。

Woody Chang
· Sep 19
UK? Do they still have a navy that can sail out of home port left? NOBODY takes UK seriously these days unless you are a Briton. UK is so second rate these days.

英国?他们还有能够驶出母港的海军吗?现在除了英国人以外,没有人把英国当一回事了。英国现在就是一个二流国家。

Lim San
· Sep 19
UK carrier can only sail in swimming pool.

英国的航母只能在游泳池里面开一开
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James Wiseman
· Sep 25
Royal navy probably not as big as it used to be, but we have subs carrying nukes. We're still a serious threat if you attack us…

英国皇家海军或许没有以前那么强大了,但是我们的潜艇依然携带着核武器。如果你攻击我们,那么我们依然可以对你构成严重的威胁。

Woody Chang
· Sep 25
LoL. Now weak, you worry about others do what you used to do to others. Time to reflect. UK should return all the looted items in British Museum today. Several centuries of being slave traders, drug peddlers, and pirates are long over. Britain has such bloody and shameful history. Once it can't rob and steal from other countries any more, it declines. Let Britain rot away is good enough for China.

哈哈,现在英国衰落了,你就开始担心别人会像你们之前对付他们那样的去对付你们。英国是时候好好反省一下了。英国应该将大英博物馆里面所有从其他国家那里抢来的东西还回去。英国长达数个世纪的奴隶主,毒贩和海盗生涯已经结束了。英国的历史是血虚的,是可耻的。一旦它无法再掠夺和偷窃其他国家的财富,那么英国就会陷入衰落。对于中国来说,让英国自生自灭就已经足够了。

Varun Sharma
· Nov 7
They have naval warfare experience which Chinese don’t have. Chinese Navy haven’t been tested in battle yet.

他们拥有中国人所不具备的海战经验。中国海军还没有经历过实战检验。
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Woody Chang
· Nov 7
What naval warfare experience does Britain have? UK sailors spend an average of 360 days a year sleeping on shore. In the last naval battle with Argentina, the British would not have been able to defeat Argentina without the help of the US and France.

英国有什么海战经验?英国水手每年平均有360天都在岸上睡觉。在上一次和阿根廷的海战中,如果没有美国和法国的帮助,英国连阿根廷都打不过。

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