2023年日本人口急剧下降,损失相当于旧金山的人口数量
2024-02-29 大号儿童 5794
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robertchristii5017
I just turned 40 this year. I can say without a shadow of a doubt. That we millennials are not having children because of the greed and inequality in the world. We want what our parents had but cannot achieve this with children. Our leaders and parents asked us to be the future and gave us impassable mountains to climb. Greed is killing the human race.

我今年刚满40岁。毫无疑问,我们千禧一代不愿意生孩子,是因为世界上的贪婪和不平等。我们想要我们父母那样拥有的生活,但无法在有孩子的情况下实现。我们的领导和父母要求我们成为未来,却给我们设置了无法逾越的障碍。贪婪正在摧毁人类。

@purplepotato8849
Stressed animals do not reproduce (and I don't say this in a demeaning way). All over the world, people are overworked, unable to afford housing, etc., and lots of folks are struggling while wealthy business owners and real estate moguls only get wealthier. Until something changes, we're going to see population declines everywhere.

受压抑的动物不会繁衍后代(我并不是贬低的意思)。全世界各地的人们都工作过度,无法负担住房等,许多人都在挣扎,而富有的企业主和房地产大亨只会变得更加富有。除非有所改变,我们将会看到人口数量在各地下降。
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@toonarmiesradiation
Employees are working over 12 hours, now asking them to work even harder to produce babies.

员工每天工作超过12小时,现在要求他们更努力地生育。

@ErnestJay88
The problem is, Japanese government tell Japanese people to "have more kids" but :
- daycare in Japan is extremely expensive.
- most Japanese living in the city especially Tokyo or Osaka, where having kid it too expensive for most "salaryman"

问题是,日本政府告诉日本人要“多生孩子”,但:
-在日本托儿费极其昂贵。
-大多数居住在城市,特别是东京或大阪的日本人,生孩子对大多数“白领”来说成本太高。

@sdqsdq6274
who would want to bring a child into the world to suffer the raising costs , lol

谁愿意把一个孩子带到这个世界上去承受日益增长的养育成本呢,哈哈。

@Haru-vg8ut
This year's GDP drop is in large part due to exchange rate between dollar and yen. Real GDP in yen has actually grown in this year. I feel bad impression that south china post tries to associate this year's economic shrink with population decline in this year. Arguably in the long run, population decline affects GDP growth negatively though.

今年的国内生产总值(GDP)下降在很大程度上是由于美元和日元之间的汇率。事实上,以日元计算的真实GDP今年实际上有所增长。我对南华报试图将今年的经济萎缩与今年的人口减少联系起来留下了不好的印象。可以说从长期来看,人口减少会对GDP增长产生负面影响。

@ilhamn1177
Every year, they never take it seriously, no proper policies implemented to improve the current working condition. But right now they do since the old dude has no young people left to work for them, and it impacts the politician wallet as well.

每年他们都不认真对待这个问题,没有实施适当的政策来改善当前的工作条件。但现在他们这样做了,因为老家伙已经没有年轻人为他们工作了,这也影响了政客的钱包。

@MrLoobu
Got your priorities all messed up. Working your life away to end your own bloodline.

你把优先顺序全搞乱了。为了终结自己的血脉而拼命工作。

@Monatio79
As far as the youth of Japan are concerned, many feel that it just isn't worth it anymore. Most worry about the rising cost of living and stagnant wages, making marriage and starting a family an inconvenience at best and an impossibility at worst. They may talk the talk, saying that they'll start a family "sometime in the future", but the reality is it's far easier and less stressful to live as a single person. And marriage is only half the issue. I personally know many people, friends and coworkers, here in Japan who have gotten married but have decided not to have kids. So with regards to Japan's declining birthrate, childless couples may as well be single.

就日本年轻人而言,许多人觉得这已经不再值得了。大多数人担心生活成本的上涨和工资的停滞,使得结婚和组建家庭最多是一种麻烦,最坏的情况下则是不可能实现。他们可能口头上说着会在“将来某个时候”组建家庭,但现实是作为单身人士过生活要容易得多,也更少压力。结婚只是其中的一半问题。我个人认识很多人,在日本的朋友和同事中,他们结婚了但决定不要孩子。因此,就日本出生率下降而言,无子女夫妇就等同于单身。

@twist777hz
All these comments about work culture, immigration policy, etc. completely miss the mark. Japan's TFR is higher than that of Spain and Italy's and roughly comparable to Greece and Portugal all of which have much less stressful work environments and friendlier immigration policies. In addition Singapore and Hong Kong both suffer from TFR lower than that of Japan even with their highly efficient work cultures.

关于工作文化、移民政策等方面的所有评论完全错了。日本的生育率高于西班牙和意大利,与希腊和葡萄牙相当,这些国家的工作环境更加轻松,移民政策也更友好。此外,新加坡和香港的生育率都低于日本,尽管它们拥有高效的工作文化。

@everstuck2430
That’s funny, cause San Francisco is also losing populations the last few years due to the expensive cost of living plus crimes

这挺有趣的,因为旧金山近几年也因为生活成本昂贵以及犯罪问题而失去人口。

@jannebrija9879
Germany is practically welcoming people to live there to counter this problem

德国实际上正在欢迎人们前往居住,以应对这一问题。

@vaultboi76
In layman’s terms- blame the old men in Japan.

用通俗的话说,要怪罪日本的老人。

@matthewharris517
I can just nearly take care of myself
Why would I deliberately add more difficulty to my already stressed life

我几乎只能照顾好自己,为什么我要故意给自己本已紧张的生活增添更多困难呢。
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@cherrypearly
My cousin is a professional and a half Japanese and really wanted to live and marry a Japanese there, but their government seems does not want hafu, so they rejected the visa happily. I am starting to think that their government really wanted this population decline to happen.

我的表弟是一位专业人士,他是日本混血,非常想在那里生活并娶一个日本人,但他们的政府似乎不希望接受混血的人,所以他们高兴地拒绝了签证。我开始觉得,他们的政府真的希望这种人口减少的情况发生。

@bugsalmudafar2973
They need to lower the working hours and give time off so that people have time to have social life or family time. Also support single parents raising their children. Maybe change their immigration policy as well.

他们需要减少工作时间并给予休假,让人们有时间享受社交生活或家庭时光。也要支持单身父母抚养孩子。也许需要改变他们的移民政策。

@jonahkluger6136
HMM, it's almost like when two parents are forced to work in order to survive, it is impossible for them to have children.

嗯,当两个父母被迫工作以维持生计时,他们根本无法生育孩子。

@terzaputra3203
You can't even afford a house to live in nowadays, why would you even have children unless you want them to suffer.

现在连买房子都是奢侈的,如果不想让孩子受苦的话,为什么还要生孩子呢。

@osaka-ben9291
I live in Osaka and was surprised by the number of elderly people when I came here. It’s like you can understand easily the number of this video just by walking on the street. The population is aging rapidly . Unfortunately the government seems clueless to solve this crisis. I have three kids and it’s difficult to find nursery in Japan , life is really expensive specially rent and housing are to small to raise kids or you have to live in rural zone where there is no jobs. 30 years ago the man’s salary itself could provide the all family but that’s not the case anymore and both parents have to work to be able to live. Japanese work hard giving their soul for the company so when do they have time to have kids ?
Japan is just heading the rest of the world on population decrease in my opinion because that’s just started to happen in other countries as well.

我住在大阪,刚来这里时被老年人的数量吓了一跳。就好像你只需在街上走一走就能轻松理解这个视频的数量。人口正迅速老龄化。不幸的是,政府似乎对解决这一危机毫无头绪。我有三个孩子,在日本很难找到托儿所,生活非常昂贵,特别是租金和住房太小,无法养育孩子,或者你必须住在没有工作机会的农村地区。30年前,男人的薪水本身就足以养活全家,但现在情况已经不同了,为了生活,现在两个父母都不得不工作。日本人为公司努力工作,他们什么时候有时间生孩子呢?在我看来,日本只是在人口减少方面领先于世界其他地区,因为其他国家也开始出现这种情况。

@cee_el
The salary is honestly horrible here. With the average salary being 200,000 yen monthly for new graduates and only increases a few thousand yen every year, I don’t even know how people can enjoy life ,Sure, bonuses add up, but compared to the cost of living, it just doesn’t make sense.

这里的薪水实在是太糟糕了。新毕业生的平均工资为每月20万日元,每年只增加几千日元,我真不知道人们怎么能享受生活。 当然,奖金会增加,但与生活成本相比,这根本就没有意义。

I’m in Osaka and 200k after taxes is like 165-170k
Rent for a 1K in a somewhat convenient area that’s not too old in building age is 60-70k monthly
Utilities and wifi and phone bill is another 10-15k. If you never eat out and only buy groceries and daily necessities, that’ll be 20k-25k (for cheap supermarkets).

我在大阪,税后的20万日元相当于165-17万日元
在一个比较方便但不算太老的建筑物中,一间1K公寓的租金每月为6-7万日元
水电、WiFi和电话费另外还要花费1-1.5万日元。如果你从不外出吃饭,只买杂货和日常用品,那将是2-2.5万日元(在廉价超市购买)。

@sarabeth8050
Japan is a highly desirable country to visit and to live in. There is a simple solution to this and it's called immigration. Japan can control who is allowed to immigrate and is able to choose the very best the world has to offer. If they do that, Japan would become the most powerful economy in the world.

日本是一个极具吸引力的国家,无论是旅游还是生活。对此有一个简单的解决方案,那就是移民。日本可以控制谁被允许移民,并选择全世界最优秀的人才。如果他们这样做,日本将成为世界上最强大的经济体。

@kammmmal211
As a malaysian, hearing japan has 34 million elderly really is shocking. Malaysia with around 35 million people already look too many to me.
imagining a whole country of malaysia that only has elderly make me understand how dire japan's birt rate situations

作为马来西亚人,听到日本有3400万老年人确实令人震惊。马来西亚已经有大约3500万人口,对我来说已经够多了。想象一下整个马来西亚国家只有老年人,让我明白了日本的生育率问题有多么严重。

@onyxx4384
This is horrific depletion... However, Japan is hurt at its core. Things like rising costs, hyperindividualism and toxic work culture (e.g. expecting people to work late hours with little to no pay for it) are hurting Japan's working class, who, ultimately, are the masses that will carry Japan forward. Nobody wants to have children anymore (antinatalism is rising, as a response from the world's declining state) and even if they did want, they can't afford it!!!
Working people of Japan, please come to action and pressure your government. The rich will not fix this for you.

这是可怕的人口减少情况...然而,日本在其核心受到伤害。诸如不断上涨的成本、极端个人主义和有害的工作文化(例如期望人们长时间工作却几乎没有报酬)正在伤害日本的工薪阶层,而这些人最终将推动日本向前发展。没有人再想要孩子了(反人口论正在崛起,作为世界衰退状态的回应),即使想要,他们也负担不起!!!
日本的劳动人民,请行动起来,向政府施压。富人不会为你们解决这个问题。

@boxbird5723
There are obviously big issues with youth being forced to work so much they don't have the time nor money to start a family, but Japan also must make the country more inviting to foreign workers and professionals to combat the high demand of workers in their declining economy. They really need to start adopting dual visa and citizenship, and make the country at least somewhat more accessible for foreigners outside of major tourist locations.

显然,年轻人被迫工作太多,他们没有时间也没有钱组建家庭,这显然是一个大问题,但日本也必须让国家对外国工人和专业人士更具吸引力,以对抗他们经济下滑时的劳动力需求。他们确实需要开始采纳双重签证和公民身份,并使国家至少在某种程度上对外国人更加开放,而不仅仅局限于主要旅游目的地。

@misterpositive9337
Its not just Japan, its happening world wide and people are waking up. Who would want to being more people into this world when there are so many society problems.

这不仅仅发生在日本,而是全球范围内正在发生,人们正在觉醒。在存在如此多社会问题的情况下,谁会想要把更多人带入这个世界呢。

@karlsonchee2701
One of the biggest contributors to the low birth rate is the work culture. Japan has one of the most stressful and arguably the worst work culture in the world. Long work hours and stressful work environment, generally no work/life balance. And the thought of having to deal with their partner on top of their stressful life is such a turn-off for most people.

低生育率的最大原因之一是工作文化。日本拥有世界上最具压力、可以说是最糟糕的工作文化之一。长时间工作和高压工作环境,通常没有工作/生活平衡。在处理伴侣问题的同时还要应对压力山大的生活,对大多数人来说都是很大的压力。

@wendyshoowaiching4161
All Corporate staff are expected to work from early morning till night 10.30pm. The tiredness the staff will go home just sleep after dinner. Some staff after dinner continue to work till late night to complete overwhelming work of the day.

所有公司员工都被期望从清晨工作到晚上10:30。员工疲惫不堪,回家后只能吃完晚饭就去睡觉。有些员工在晚饭后继续工作到深夜,以完成一天中不可估量的工作。

@blushingralseiuwu2222
Not that weird for Japan, its basically like living in cyberpunk world lol

对于日本来说并不奇怪,这基本上就像是生活在赛博朋克世界中,哈哈。

@belto3149
I'm 25. If I lived on my own at least 65% of my salary would go to rent. I could barely take care of myself so forget about having a family. My mom had 3 kids at my age.

我今年25岁。如果我独自生活,至少65%的工资会用来支付房租。我几乎无法照顾自己,更别说成家了。我妈妈在我这个年纪已经有了3个孩子。

@TobiDaJoker
Japan focuses on working employees to death, not building a healthy work-life balance. Residents have to work endless hours to simply survive in that economy. Until that's fixed, asking people to start families will be difficult.

日本注重让员工工作到死,而不是建立健康的工作与生活平衡。居民必须工作不断的小时才能在这样的经济中简单地生存下去。在这一点得到改善之前,要求人们成立家庭将会很困难。

@rickblaster-xu5ie
this is how poverty ends, less humans more resources per capita.

这就是贫困终结的方式,人口减少,每人资源增加。
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@PhilippBlum
He is right about it. But it seems like they don't act accordingly, otherwise they would take way more drastic steps in order to change it. Especially when it comes to work culture.

他说的没错。但似乎他们没有相应的行动,否则他们会采取更加激烈的措施来改变这一点。尤其是在涉及工作文化时。
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@goldencheesesteak4890
They should start taking sekuhara seriously. Women who are survivor of SA, are more likely avoid dating, marriage, and giving birth. The more traumatized a woman is, the less likely she'll go on happily dating, let alone thinking about marriage or having kids.

他们应该认真对待性骚扰问题。幸存性侵受害者更有可能避免约会、结婚和生育。女性受到的创伤越严重,她们就越不可能愉快地约会,更不用说考虑结婚或生孩子了。
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@Johannesai1
What if Japan implemented Singapore housing-style for young couples, and if it increased public day-care centers, kindergartens, primary & secondary schools? I heard that kindergarten education in both China and Japan is extremely expensive. They must find a way to fund public day-care centers and kindergartens for new couples to rest assured

如果日本实施新加坡式的年轻夫妇住房政策,如果增加公共托儿中心、幼儿园、小学和中学呢?我听说中国和日本的幼儿园教育都非常昂贵。他们必须想办法为新夫妇筹集资金,以便安心地利用公共托儿中心和幼儿园。

@dennistlc
It’s a self regulated mechanism. This part of the world has high housing cost and it’s also expensive to raise children and so people have less children. At some point the system will have so few buyers of the appartement and housing cost start to go down, until it reaches a point where people feel they can afford a house and have children at the same time. South Korea and Taiwan are even worse. Government policy favors the rich, no surprise.

这是一个自我调节的机制。这个地区的住房成本很高,养育孩子也很昂贵,因此人们生育的子女较少。在某个时候,系统将会有很少的购房者,住房成本开始下降,直到达到一个人们觉得他们可以同时买得起房子并养育子女的程度。韩国和台湾甚至更糟。政府政策偏袒富人,这并不奇怪。

@user-xp5yk6kc9i
As someone who is able to support and provide for family !! My reasons were feminism and woke, I cannot stand women who has almost nothing to offer, loudmouthing !! I am fine being young and rich rather than tolerate these woked "aka modern communist" on my day to day life !! Period !!

作为一个能够支持和照顾家庭的人!我的原因是女权主义和觉醒,我无法容忍那些几乎毫无贡献的、大声喧哗的女人!我宁愿年轻而富裕,也不愿在日常生活中容忍这些觉醒的“现代共产主义者”!完结!

@TC-cd5sm
For country with a stagnant economy, stagnant wages, with high cost of living, but High Cost of childcare, with barely time off for raising children, inconsistently overworked, what did you expect?

对于一个经济停滞、工资停滞、生活成本高昂、托儿费用高昂、几乎没有时间抚养孩子、工作不断超负荷的国家,你期望什么呢?

@kaz9781
Happiness is a contributing factor ,people of today are working harder and can barely maintain themselves let alone a family or children

幸福是一个重要因素,今天的人们工作更加努力,几乎无法维持自己,更别提家庭或孩子了。

@mordant221
That's just how it is... when mine and my wifes parents immgrated here to the U.S., they each had a bunch of kids. My Mom had 5, my mother in law had 6. As for us? We've had one, and we're not having another. I have a feeling our daughter probably won't have any. An that's fine.

事情就是这样的…当我和我妻子的父母移民到美国时,他们每人生了一大堆孩子。我妈妈生了5个,我岳母生了6个。至于我们?我们只有一个孩子,而且不打算再要了。我觉得我们的女儿可能不会有孩子。这也没关系。

@Tabletpillowlamp
I don't think it's just work and stress that's causing this.
Culture, too. Japan isn't as religious as other countries, especially when it comes to Christianity and Islam. And both those religions are super big on your duty to reproduce.

我认为导致这种情况的不仅仅是工作和压力。
文化也是一个因素。日本在宗教方面不如其他国家,特别是基督教和伊斯兰教。而这两种宗教非常强调你对繁衍后代的责任

@qiaofengqi7620
Plutocracy makes life stressful. And this is a national that would not bring in immigrants to ease the aging of the population.

寡头政治使生活充满压力。而这个国家不会引进移民来缓解人口老龄化问题。

@makotonarukami7468
Does that mean if I take the effort in time to learn Japanese within 10 years you know like for example I can actually try to become a Japanese citizen or at least work in Japan for a couple months you think something like that could actually be possible due to the low birth rates

这是否意味着如果我花费时间学习日语,比如在10年内,我实际上可以尝试成为日本公民,或者至少在日本工作几个月,你认为这样的事情可能会因为低出生率而成为可能吗?

@Zionist_Empire
The Japanese people are very smart. People here in Philippines can definitely learn a lot from Japan. Most people here insist on making lots of kids despite high unemployment and inflation rate in the country.

日本人民非常聪明。菲律宾的人民绝对可以从日本学到很多东西。这里的大多数人坚持要生很多孩子,尽管该国的失业率和通货膨胀率很高。

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