【街访马来西亚华人】如果马来西亚的马来人在奥运会上对阵中国队,你会支持谁?
2024-03-14 兰陵笑笑生 11569
正文翻译

If Malaysian Malay vs China in the Olympics, who will you support?

【街访马来西亚华人】如果马来西亚的马来人在奥运会上对阵中国队,你会支持谁?

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Particular_Wheel_643
Malay said Chinese rich
Chinese said malay rich
Indian in the middle be like...

马来人说华人有钱
华人说马来人有钱
中间的印度人表示...

zomgbratto
If it's a Malay problem, then it's a national problem
If it's a Chinese problem, then it's a racial problem
If it's an Indian problem, it's nooo problem, aneh

如果是马来人的问题,那就是国家问题
如果是华人问题,那就是种族问题
如果是印度人的问题,那就不是问题,妙啊

LoneWolfGaming123
If you read both Chinese and malay media, they both have the tendency to say law enforcement is biasedly targeting em instead of the other race. Like why they only punish our illegally operated kedai instead of the other race.
And even during covid, the some Chinese doubt the government is lowering the case number to end lockdown earlier, while the malay thinks they intentionally increase the case number to lock them down longer.
Victim mentality ftw.

如果你阅读华人和马来媒体,他们都倾向于说执法部门有偏见地针对他们,而不是其他种族。比如为什么他们只惩罚我们非法经营的小档而不是其他种族。
甚至在新冠疫情期间,一些华人怀疑政府降低感染数量是为了更早地结束封禁,而马来人则认为他们故意增加感染数量是为了更长时间地封禁他们。
受害者心态就是这样的。

Low_Green8387
I have spoken with a Malay restaurant owner who complained that DBKL removed their illegally placed tables and chairs on the five foot way. DBKL should not have done that to a Malay business. On the other hand, I have also spoken with Chinese business people who complained that the authorities only target them for enforcement, and not the Malays. This is the outcome of our policies.

我曾与一位马来餐馆老板交谈,他抱怨吉隆坡市政局拆除了他们在五英尺(1米5)宽的路上非法放置的桌椅。吉隆坡市政局不应该对马来企业这样做。另一方面,我也曾与华人商界人士交谈,他们抱怨当局只针对他们执法,而不针对马来人。这就是我们政策的结果。

hackenclaw
Malay+Chinese with combined voice : All we know is you aint getting us to rent our house to you.

“中间的印度人表示...”
马来人+华人一起表示:我们只知道我们不会把房子租给你。

DRFFC
The elites politician/cronies/lobbyists are the rich.. no matter what race they are..

精英政治家/亲信/游说者都是富人...无论他们是什么种族...

XRdragon
You said this but 1 out of 10 ultra wealthy malaysian is indians despite having the lowest race ratio, which implies, the racial segregation is a hypothetical construct.
The rest of the 9? Chinese.
Melayu where? The sultans.

你可以这么说,但尽管占马来西亚的种族比例最低,但 10 个马来西亚超级富豪中就有 1 个是印度人,这意味着种族隔离只是一种假设。
其余 9 人呢?华人。
马来人富豪在哪里?苏丹们。

laughterholic126
I'm a Chinese but I'll still support whatever race representing malaysia

我是华人,但我仍然会支持代表马来西亚的任何种族

mushaslater
Bruh, Malaysian football team there’s even white people on it. We support anything Malaysian, period.

噗,马来西亚足球队里甚至有白人。我们在任何事情上都支持任何马来西亚人。

chrlsalex
I beg to differ, i don't want to support to the whites in Malaysian Football. They are not malaysian, it is just that malaysian FA feel like they can buy success with money and import players from overseas. Malaysian Chinese, Indian, Malay, Bidayuh, kadazan, iban, orang asli, etc are the real malaysian and i will support them with all my heart.

我不敢苟同,我不想支持马来西亚足球中的白人。他们不是马来西亚人,只是马来西亚足协觉得他们可以用钱买到成功,从海外引进的球员。马来西亚华人、印度人、马来人、比达友人、卡达山人、伊班人、原住民等等才是真正的马来西亚人,我会全心全意地支持他们。

GreenmushroomGameDev
Agree. I will support Malaysia malay against China. We are Malaysians first. We support our country athletes.

同意。在马来西亚马来人对阵中国队中我会支持马来人。我们首先是马来西亚人。我们支持我们国家的运动员。

UsernameGenerik
OP
During the height of LCW vs Lin Dan rivalry, some openly said they support Lin Dan because he is a) from China, b) more handsome, c) more skillful. I just can’t

在李宗伟与林丹的竞争最激烈的时候,一些人公开表示他们支持林丹,因为他 a) 来自中国,b) 更帅,c) 技术更强。我无法理解

ClacKing
I've never heard any Malaysian citing a) as a reason. I mean c) is quite fair enough, LD was a monster at his peak, but even he acknowledges his only rival is LCW, without LCW, there will not be LD.
b) is subjective la, but I get it.

我从未听过任何马来西亚人以 a) 作为理由。我的意思是 c) 很公平,林丹在他的巅峰时期是个怪物,但即使他也承认他唯一的对手是李宗伟,没有李宗伟就没有林丹。
B)是主观的啦,但我可以理解。

a06220
I support both Lin Dan and LCW. I dont care who win. I just want to learn their godlike skills. I pray for badminton god.

我支持林丹和李宗伟。我不在乎谁赢。我只想学习他们神一般的技术。我向羽毛球之神祈祷。

momomelty
Sarawak & Offshore
But Lin Dan is arguably more skillful tho. Thats why I support Lin Dan because Dato play style Macam never change. I support skill players instead of nationality
Edit: lMao people who downvote me just can’t handle the truth.

但林丹可以说是技高一筹。这就是我支持林丹的原因,因为拿督的打法从未改变。我支持技术型选手,而不是国籍
编辑:笑死我了,那些给我点踩的人就是不能接受事实。

UsernameGenerik
OP
Can’t imagine an English football fan supporting Argentina because Messi is more skillful

无法想象英国球迷会因为梅西技术更强而支持阿根廷

tingthinking14
Wechat Facebook uncle auntie normal behaviour.

微信脸书叔叔阿姨的正常行为。

Outrageous-Trifle368
I don’t care, I am Malaysian I will fully support my country athletes. (I am Malaysian Chinese)

我不在乎,我是马来西亚人,我会全力支持我国家的运动员。(我是马来西亚华人)

sirloindenial
Give me more dad jokes!
Same wording can be found for Malays toward Chinese, at same income level. Kind of perplexing to see that both side sees each other as being more prosperous. Maybe we are all equally fucked?

在收入水平相同的情况下,马来人对中国人也有同样的说法。双方都认为对方更富裕,这有点令人费解。也许我们都一样糟糕?

Undeserved-Lad
It’s time to realize that all politicians are really just using racial sentiments to divide the common people so they can stay in power

是时候认识到,所有政客其实都是在利用种族情绪来分化普通民众,以便继续掌权

Dip2pot4t0Ch1P
Good old British divide and conquer effect is still alive in malaya.

古老的英国分而治之的效果在马来亚仍然存在。

Obvious_Sand_5423
Yet every election season, it's still the same old faces running for public office and that same old bullshit narrative of "choose the lesser of two evils".
And everyone still believes in the illusion that they actually have a choice to make a difference. Lol

然而,每到选举季,竞选公职的依然是那些老面孔,依然是“两害相权取其轻”的废话。
每个人都还在幻想着自己真的可以做出选择,改变现状。笑话

akar79
this is a perfect example why Marx says all struggles are ultimately class struggles. not race

这就是马克思为什么说所有斗争归根结底都是阶级斗争而不是种族斗争的最好例证。

NokKavow
Divide and Rule. In Malaysia, the British have set it up so well it persists 60+ years after they're gone.

分而治之。在马来西亚,英国人将其设置得如此之好,以至于在他们离去 60 多年后依然存在。

Leading-Bottle2630
So you blame the British who left there 60 plus years ago for the racist behaviors of some 5 minutes ago?.
" I don't want to rent my house to Indians. I can just blame the British Home office from 1920"

所以你把大约5分钟前的种族主义行为归咎于60多年前离开那里的英国人?
“我不想把房子租给印度人。都怪 1920 年以来的英国内政部”

NokKavow
The British set up the arrangement with 3 communities which are pitted against each other. Those in power afterwards saw it fit to continue the arrangement.
The problem is much bigger than a few individuals being racist on their own. Reducing it to that does nobody a service.

英国人做出了 3 个社区相互对立的安排。后来的当权者认为应该继续这种安排。
问题远不止少数人的种族主义。把问题归结为这一点对任何人都没有好处。

wooooshwith4o
"There's Malaysian Chinese, and there's Chinese Malaysian"

“有的是马来西亚华人,也有的是华裔马来西亚人”

itznimitz
Both still second-class citizens at the end of the day

到最后二者都是二等公民

SystemErrorMessage
even bumi are 2nd class citizen too. only the elite are 1st class.

甚至土著也是二等公民。只有精英才是一等。

fraidycatxxx
yes it is by statistic the 5th happiest country in the world. so this second class citizen was bullshit all day long.

根据统计,它是世界上第五幸福的国家。所以所谓的二等公民之类的只是胡言乱语。

Rustykilo
it's interesting to watch this. When I was in college in the US. The Malaysian Chinese students will say they are Chinese when people ask. The Indonesian Chinese will say they're Indonesian.

看到这个很有趣。我在美国读大学的时候。当人们问起马来西亚华人学生时,他们会说他们是华人。印尼华人会说自己是印尼人。

New-Neighborhood30
Yes because we are proud of our Chinese ethnic identity, it doesn't mean we are saying we are China citizens, because in Chinese language, Chinese (Hua Ren) and China citizens or westerners like to call it Chinese is Zhong Guo Ren, totally different thing. If asked where are you from, we will say Malaysia, if asked what ethnic we are, of course we will say we are Chinese.

是的,我们为自己的华裔身份感到自豪,但这并不意味着我们说自己是中国公民,因为在汉语中,华人(Hua Ren)和中国公民或西方人喜欢称呼的中国人(Zhong Guo Ren),完全是两码事。如果问我们来自哪里,我们会说马来西亚,如果问我们是什么民族,我们当然会说我们是华人。
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Fit_Treacle_6077
It’s due to the purge but also due to many Chinese Indonesians not wanting to be reprimanded for being anti Indonesian as policies are still actively enforced.

这一方面是由于肃清运动,另一方面也是由于许多印尼华人不愿因反印尼政策而受到谴责,因为政策仍在积极执行。
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EarthPutra
We can start killing each other on 5pm later if we want assimilation like the Indonesians. /s

如果我们想像印度尼西亚人一样同化,我们可以在下午 5 点之后开始互相残杀。/S

jacklsw
Of course support Malaysians. There’s chance for public holiday when they win

当然支持马来西亚人。他们赢了就有机会享受一天假期

n33ha
Most valid reason

最正当的理由

thebtx
Wait... They get oppressed here, so they support China in sports. Is China giving them some kind of support or something? China giving them money to support their business or education? How does it work?

等等...他们在这里受到压迫,所以他们在体育方面支持中国。中方是否给予他们某种支持或其他什么?中国给他们钱来支持他们的生意或教育吗?这是怎么一回事?

sirloindenial
No la because they see the China team as the same as them, through hard work as a Chinese only can become athlete. Meanwhile the Malays malaysian get to be athlete because of bumiputera privilege so don't deserve the support. If similar opposite, Malay would say the Chinese control the sextion thats why not many malay, so malaysian Chinese is not worth supporting because cina cable, but should support malay because through hard work only. I dont think malays would support indo or sg players though. But if its western countries of muslim players than yes of course.

没有啦,因为在他们看来,中国队和他们一样,都是通过努力才能成为运动员。与此同时,马来人能成为运动员是因为他们拥有贫困特权,所以不值得支持。如果情况相反,马来人会说:华人控制了选拔,所以马来人不多,所以马来西亚华人不值得支持,因为华人有特权,但应该支持马来人,因为只有通过努力才能成为运动员。我不认为马来人会支持印度或新加坡球员。但如果是西方国家的穆斯林球员,肯定会支持。

Anxious-Debate5033
I took a grab last month and driver was Chinese guy maybe around 40s
Anyways he started talking about EV Cars...then pivoted to the Chinese EV cars and how good they are....and how China will overtake the US very soon, and Chinese got so many factories in Malaysia...
So much ass kissing lol. I just kept quiet and let him carry on talking.
Quite scary to think about how a lot of this Uncle Aunty (can be any race) probably get brainwashed with anti *insert race / country* sentiment from all these whatsapp fear mongering viral messages and videos.

我上个月我搭了辆车,司机是个华人,大概 40 多岁。
总之,他开始谈论电动汽车...然后转到中国的电动汽车,说它们有多好...说中国很快就会超过美国,中国在马来西亚有那么多工厂...
一直在拍中国的马屁哈哈。我只是保持沉默,让他继续说下去。
想想这些大叔大妈(可以是任何种族)可能都被洗脑了,从所有这些whatsapp上的恐惧煽动病毒式信息和视频中,他们都被灌输了反*插入某个种族/国家*的情绪。

Redcarpet1254
Although none of that implied he wouldn't support Malaysia in the Olympics. Seems more of just a big fan of China's development over the US.

然而这并不意味着他在奥运会上不会支持马来西亚。他似乎只是更喜欢看到中国的发展超过美国。
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saltySmfer
Lol fr. Anything positive about China or Russia = propaganda apparently

哈哈,是吧。任何有关中国或俄罗斯的积极因素=显然是宣传

judelau
I support North Korea. Fight me

我支持朝鲜。咬我啊

UmUBest
Very typical for most Chinese uncle auntie

对于大多数华人叔叔阿姨来说非常典型

fatman_xing
All the uncles and aunties supporting PRC Chinese are silly. Sebab:
Malaysians win = public holiday;
PRC win = just another day. ¯_(ツ)_/¯

所有支持中国的叔叔阿姨都是笨蛋。因为:
马来西亚人赢了 = 公众假期;

中国队赢了 = 又是普通的一天。¯_(ツ)_/¯
Matherold
Very nice data to promote selling one-way tickets to Tongsan

非常好的数据,促进了去唐山的单程票的销售
(注:唐山=中国)

oliverchunlong
I’m Chinese Malaysian, and I consider myself to have more in common with a fellow Malaysian (whatever their race) than a Chinese person. Some of these people need to understand that all skinfolk ain’t kinfolk.

我是马来西亚华人,我认为我与马来西亚同胞(无论他们是什么种族)的共同点要多于中国人。有些人需要明白,不是肤色一样的人就是亲戚。

Over-Athlete6745
If you interview in ipoh Perak, especially in ipoh Oldtown area at any of the kopitiam, you can try to ask them this question and we will be prepared almost the same reaction from those elders people, pro china and complaining Malaysian, more xffensive then you can seeing here, because in ipoh we do feel strong of racism here especially in government sector, but those old man uncles aunty Ipoh Lang will complaining in the highest level and very pro china haha. (Not against any of the races yaa, due to the previous government and our history shxt happened they do suffer alot, but in those recent 10 years, our Malaysian is getting more unity and getting improved on our relationship and friendship, hope 1 Malaysia or whatsoever Malaysian harmony truly Malaysian will last longer forever, peace is hard to get so appreciated that welcome to Ipoh

如果你在霹雳怡保采访,特别是在怡保老城区的任何一家餐饮店,你可以试着问他们这个问题,我们会准备好几乎相同的反应,从那些老人那里,亲中国和抱怨马来西亚,会比你在这个视频里看到的更多,因为在怡保,我们确实感受到强烈的种族主义,特别是在政府部门,但那些怡保的老叔叔阿姨们的抱怨是最高级别的,非常亲中国,哈哈。(并不是针对任何种族,由于以前的政府和我们的历史,他们确实遭受了很多苦难,但在最近的10年里,我们的马来西亚人越来越团结,我们的关系和友谊也得到了改善,希望一个马来西亚或任何马来西亚人的和谐真正的马来西亚将永远持续下去,和平是很难得到的,欢迎来到怡保 。

teho9999
Malays are rich?? Its kinda funny since im malay and always been told the Chinese are the rich one

马来人有钱吗??这有点有趣,因为我是马来人,而且总是被告知华人是有钱人

Nickckng
Too much Facebook/wechat does freaky shit to human brain

刷太多的 Facebook/微信对人类大脑造成了奇怪的影响

reforming_activist
Most of them consume too much Chinese propaganda or fake news (particularly this kind of what India declares war on china, Chinese women invented the 100% cure for leukaemia, Chinese declares economic sanctions on the US, and the US dollar plunges to RMB 1 for USD 100 or something like that zzz)

他们中的大多数人看了太多的中国宣传或假新闻(尤其是这种什么印度向中国宣战,中国妇女发明了100%治愈白血病的方法,中国宣布对美国进行经济制裁,美元暴跌到1元人民币兑换100美元之类的新闻)。

Electronic-Contact15
aunties never miss an opportunity to rant

阿姨们不放过任何吐槽的机会

pediocore
The Netherlands
How can you not support your own country? There are no excuses for it.

怎么能不支持自己的国家呢?这没有任何借口。

[dexed]
Same reason they get so defensive when asked why cannot speak bahasa. There’s malaysian Chinese and Chinese people that happens to be born in malaysia

同样的原因,当被问及为什么不会说国语(马来语)时,他们也会如此防御性。有马来西亚华人,也有碰巧出生在马来西亚的中国人。

reyfire
this is why the Chinese in semenanjung will always be treated n feel like an outsider…what an idiot

这就是为什么马来半岛的华人总是被视为局外人……真是白痴
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Sad_Sugar_8660
I support the statement from the last uncle. Is not that we don't like this country or something, but some of the policies and rules are really unfair to us (so called non bumis by the malays). On top of that, in every election the stupid politicians always bring up the 3R cards to brainwash the malays into thinking us that we are the bad guys, we are destroying the country. But they didn't realise that they are the ones that are sabotaging the country...

我支持最后一位叔叔的说法。我们并不是不喜欢这个国家,而是有些政策和规则对我们(马来人称之为非土著人)真的很不公平。除此之外,在每次选举中,愚蠢的政客们总是会拿出 种族牌来给马来人洗脑,让他们认为我们是坏人,我们正在摧毁这个国家。但他们没有意识到,他们才是破坏国家的罪魁祸首

PowerfulHistory7907
Those are the smart politician that play in term of their favour. Create tension elsewhere so normal citizen busy fighting each other instead of politician.

这些都是精明的政客,他们会为自己的利益服务。在其他地方制造紧张局势,让普通公民忙于互相争斗,而不是针对政客。

n_to_the_n
mantad oku tonsilot
Now do it again with conservative Malays.

现在再对保守的马来人做一次这样的采访。

helloOyen
No surprise la, you interview those auntie uncle with minimal education background, plus they have been influenced so much with china's propaganda media, just look at tiktok whatsapp fb etc. Surely there will be people say support china.

不奇怪啦,你去采访那些学历最低的阿姨叔叔,再加上他们受中国宣传媒体的影响太大,看看 tiktok whatsapp fb 等就知道了。肯定会有人说支持中国。

survesibaltica
I think the main problem is that most of the interviewees are uncle auntie types who have resentment towards the Malays, I assume that younger Chinese are more tolerant

我认为主要问题是大多数受访者都是叔叔阿姨类型的人,他们对马来人有怨恨,我认为年轻的华人更宽容

Own_Stand_6654
Uhhh, isn't this sub full of younger people?

呃呃,这个板块里不是都是年轻人吗?

survesibaltica
Yes but the interview in the video is taken in a pasar, not on this sub

是的,但视频中的采访是在巴刹拍摄的,而不是在这个板块

Own_Stand_6654
I mean, this sub also has resentment towards malays

我的意思是,这个板块也对马来人有怨恨

survesibaltica
Fair enough, but my assumption is that there is less resentment compared to uncle aunties at pasar malams

好吧,但我的假设是,与夜市的叔叔阿姨相比,怨恨会少一些。

Own_Stand_6654
No disrespect, but I doubt that. Seeing all the posts here everyday I might even say that the video is actually tamer than this sub

无意冒犯,但我对此表示怀疑。我每天都在这里看帖子,我甚至可以说,这段视频其实比这个板块更温顺。

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