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As anti-Israel sentiment creeps into mainstream conservative discourse, a number of Jewish authors — some who try to interface with white radicals — have sought to counter this rising tendency with proverbial Pavlovian bell-ringing: opposition to Zionism is the agenda of “brown people,” “the woke left,” “anti-whites,” and “Third Worldism.”

随着反以色列情绪悄悄进入主流保守派话语，许多犹太作家——其中一些试图与白人激进分子接触——试图用众所周知的巴甫洛夫式的钟声来对抗这种上升的趋势:反对犹太复国主义是“棕色人种”、“觉醒的左派”、“反白人”和“第三世界主义”的议程。

This discourse is intended to reduce a Middle Eastern geopolitical conflict, where Israel enjoys bipartisan unconditional military support from the entire American ruling elite, into a meaningless domestic red team vs blue team culture war issue. To see this in its basest form, observe the New York Post’s coverage of the conflict, which is broadly ignoring all of the real news in the conflict in favor of photos of nefarious looking Arab Muslim protesters and blue haired Marxists holding “Queers For Palestine” signs on college campuses. This is an inversion of Zionist Bill Maher’s type of appeal to the left, which dwells on images of protesters waving Swastikas and frxs support for the Palestinian cause as a betrayal of progressivism and minority rights.

这一话语意在将中东地缘政治冲突(以色列在那里得到了整个美国统治精英两党无条件的军事支持)调和成一场毫无意义的国内红队vs蓝队文化战争问题。要想了解最基本的形式，看看《纽约邮报》对这场冲突的报道——它基本上忽略了冲突中的所有真实新闻，而只关注那些看起来邪恶的阿拉伯穆斯林抗议者和蓝头发的马克思主义者在大学校园里举着“酷儿支持巴勒斯坦”标语的照片。
这与犹太复国主义者比尔·马赫向左翼发出的呼吁完全相反，后者强调抗议者挥舞万字旗的形象，并将对巴勒斯坦事业的支持视为对进步主义和少数民族权利的背叛。

The Jewish figures involved in pushing various shades of this narrative include Constantin Alamariu (“Bronze Age Pervert”), Nathan Cofnas, Paul Gottfried, Curtis Yarvin (“Moldbug”), and so on. Most recently, Robert Stark, who claims to be the descendant of a prominent Zionist ideologue, begged the “alt-right” to reject the Palestinians and anti-Zionism on the grounds that taking this position is tantamount to embracing “third worldism.”

参与推动这一叙事的犹太人人物包括康斯坦丁·阿马拉乌(《青铜时代的变态》)、内森·科夫纳斯、保罗·戈特弗里德、柯蒂斯·亚文(《魔虫》)等等。最近，自称是著名犹太复国主义理论家后代的罗伯特·斯塔克恳求“另类右翼”拒绝巴勒斯坦人和反犹太复国主义，理由是采取这一立场无异于拥抱“第三世界主义”。

The first problem with this intellectual distortion is that their definition of “Third Worldism” is kept vague. The specific theory of the worlds is an outmoded Cold War Marxist trope that views wealthy and urbanized America and Western Europe as having an exploitative, colonial relationship with the more agrarian global south based on capitalist relations.

这种思想扭曲的第一个问题是，他们对“第三世界主义”的定义是模糊的。世界的具体理论是一种过时的冷战马克思主义修辞，这种理论认为，富裕和城市化的美国和西欧与基于资本主义关系的、农业占比更多的全球南方有着剥削和殖民关系。

In common parlance, the word “Third World” is often used pejoratively for nations that fail to meet liberal-democratic metrics and developmental standards, or in some cases, merely reject cultural impositions aggressively exported by the Judeo-American order. For Alamariu, Stark, and the rest, the word vacillates as a stand in for non-white, where they seek to tie moral support for countries battling erratic expressions of Jewish violence, like American foreign policy, to domestic, largely unrelated, and US-elite sponsored anti-white sentiment.

在通常的说法中，“第三世界”这个词经常被贬义地用于那些未能达到自由民主标准和发展标准的国家，或者在某些情况下，仅仅是拒绝犹太-美国秩序积极输出的文化强加的标签。
对于阿拉马里乌、斯塔克和其他人来说，这个词作为非白人的代表摇摆不定，他们寻求将“为反对（美国外交政策支撑的）犹太人暴力行为提供道义支持”，与“美国精英赞助的反白人情绪”联系起来。
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The theory of the worlds is fundamentally flawed and requires ideological blxers and confirmation bias to even make sense. For example, was the United States pursuing “Third Worldist” policies when it armed and trained Vietnamese nationalist Ho Chi Minh’s guerrillas to fight the Japanese and the French? Did Ho Chi Minh transition from First Worldist to Third Worldist when he appealed to the USSR to help him later? How do we characterize Third Worldist Mao colluding with the US government to subsidize the Khmer Rouge in Cambodia in their conflict with the Soviet-backed Vietnamese?

这套世界理论从根本上是有缺陷的，甚至需要意识形态上的偏见才能说得通。例如，当美国武装和训练越南民族主义的胡志明游击队与日本和法国作战时，美国是否在奉行“第三世界主义”政策?
胡志明后来向苏联求助时，他从第一世界主义者转变为第三世界主义者了吗?我们如何描述第三世界主义者毛泽东与美国政府关系缓和，资助柬埔寨与苏联支持的越南人的冲突?

What of the Pan-Arabists, who took inspiration from German Nationalsocialism and even worked with German emigres to fight for their sovereignty? Gamal Abdel Nasser initially appealed to Dwight Eisenhower for an alliance following the Egyptian revolution, but was rejected due to the White House’s fear that any weapons sold could be used against Israel. Eventually, Nasser wrote the US off as being captured by Jews and went to the USSR for support instead. Was this an act of “Third Worldism,” or commonsense nationalism?

那些从德国国家社会主义中获得灵感，甚至与德国移民一起为主权而战的泛阿拉伯主义者呢? 在埃及革命后，纳赛尔最初向德怀特·艾森豪威尔呼吁结盟，但由于白宫担心出售的任何武器都可能被用来对付以色列而遭到拒绝。最终，纳赛尔认为美国被犹太人俘虏了，转而去苏联寻求支持。这是一种“第三世界主义”，还是一种常识性的民族主义?
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Fidel Castro, a figure popularly associated with 20th century “Third Worldism,” also enjoyed American support. Washington initially supported Fulgencio Batista, but as the revolution developed, wound up betraying him and implemented a weapon’s embargo in 1958 that was essential to Castro’s triumph a year later. It was only when Castro’s new government decided to nationalize the casinos of Meyer Lansky and other Jewish gangsters operating on the island that relations soured.
Castro would later go on to declare Cuban military adventures in Africa and the Middle East as acts of anti-fascist third world solidarity, yet simultaneously, he retained a lifelong close alliance and personal friendship with Francisco Franco.

菲德尔·卡斯特罗，一个普遍与20世纪“第三世界主义”联系在一起的人物，也曾得到过美国的支持。华盛顿最初支持巴蒂斯塔，但随着革命的发展，最终背叛了他，并在1958年实施了武器禁运，这对一年后卡斯特罗的胜利至关重要。
直到卡斯特罗的新政府决定将梅尔·兰斯基和其他在岛上经营的犹太黑帮的赌场国有化，两国关系才开始恶化。
卡斯特罗后来宣布古巴在非洲和中东的军事冒险是反法西斯的第三世界团结行动，但与此同时，他与弗朗西斯科·佛朗哥保持了终身的亲密联盟和个人友谊。

Before that, President John Adams provided crucial military and financial aid to the blood-curdling Haitian revolution, including fighting a naval war to prevent French forces dispatched by Napoleon Bonaparte from saving the white people stranded on the island. Following their US sponsored victory, Haitian forces would go on to massacre every white man, woman and child they could get their hands on. The Jefferson administration would later reverse this policy approach, but the damage was done.

在此之前，约翰·亚当斯总统为令人毛骨悚然的海地革命提供了重要的军事和财政援助，包括发动一场海战，以阻止拿破仑·波拿巴(Napoleon Bonaparte)派遣的法国军队拯救被困在岛上的白人。在美国支持下的胜利之后，海地军队将继续屠杀他们能抓到的每一个白人男人、女人和孩子。杰斐逊政府后来改变了这一政策方针，但损害已经造成。

In his article, Stark mentions that Israel supported Apartheid South Africa. This is true, but ideology and solidarity played no part in this. The South African state offered to trade Israel the materials needed for their illegal nuclear weapons program in exchange for international Jewry shielding the country from bad publicity. Once the Israelis got what they wanted, Jews suddenly turned their back on the country and politically isolated it via the United States and Britain. Anti-Apartheid activists, both on the left and the right, were overwhelmingly Jewish, and often pro-Israel as well. One of the main players in this nuclear intrigue between Israel and South Africa, the Hollywood mogul and Mossad agent Arnon Milchan, has produced countless films racially demonizing whites, such as 12 Years A Slave.

在他的文章中，斯塔克提到以色列支持种族隔离的南非。这是事实，但意识形态和团结在其中没有发挥作用。南非提出与以色列进行非法核武器项目所需的材料交易，以换取国际犹太人保护该国免受负面宣传。但一旦以色列人得到了他们想要的东西，犹太人突然背弃了这个国家，并通过美国和英国在政治上孤立了它。
反对种族隔离的积极分子，无论是左派还是右派，绝大多数都是犹太人，而且往往也是亲以色列的。在这场以色列和南非之间的核阴谋中，好莱坞大亨、摩萨德特工阿农·米尔坎)是主要参与者之一，他制作了无数部种族妖魔化白人的电影，比如《为奴十二年》。
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As for Israel’s support for Serbia, this was also fleeting and circumstantial. When Serbian forces laid siege to Sarajevo in 1993, the Serbs offered to allow the 300 Jews in the city to leave the conflict zone in exchange for Israeli weapons — effectively a hostage negotiation. It should be noted that Yasser Arafat, then leader of the PLO, also expressed full support for Serbia throughout these conflicts, despite the fact that many of Slobodan Milosevic’s opponents were Muslim. Nevertheless, we can’t omit that the decision to bomb Serbia in 1999 was made by the Zionist Jew Madeline Albright and executed by another Jewish individual, NATO General Wesley Clark.

至于以色列对塞尔维亚的支持，这也是短暂而间接的。1993年，塞尔维亚军队围攻萨拉热窝时，塞尔维亚提出允许城内300名犹太人离开冲突地区，以换取以色列的武器——这实际上是一场人质谈判。应当指出，当时的巴解组织领导人亚西尔·阿拉法特在这些冲突中也表示全力支持塞尔维亚，尽管斯洛博丹·米洛舍维奇的许多对手是穆斯林。
然而，我们不能忽略1999年轰炸塞尔维亚的决定是由犹太复国主义犹太人马德琳·奥尔布赖特做出的，并由另一个犹太人执行——北约将军韦斯利·克拉克。

Israel’s support for Serbia, aside from a few arms transfers and half-hearted diplomatic support, was meaningless. In 2020, Israel officially recognized Kosovo. Kosovo is the most pro-Israel Muslim country on the planet.
The First Worldist USA and Third Worldist USSR both supported anti-colonialist movements as intrinsic to their mutually shared post-war agenda of neutering Europe via NATO and the Warsaw Pact. In some cases, rival rebel factions battled each other and the European element at the same time, as in the case of Angolan independence, where the Portuguese fought alone against proxies backed by the communist bloc and the liberal West.

除了一些武器转让和半心半意的外交支持外，以色列对塞尔维亚的支持毫无意义。2020年，以色列正式承认科索沃。科索沃是世界上最亲以色列的穆斯林国家。
第一世界主义的美国和第三世界主义的苏联都支持反殖民主义运动，这是他们通过北约和华沙条约共同的战后议程的内在内容。在某些情况下，敌对的叛军派系相互争斗，同时与欧洲势力交战，比如安哥拉独立时，葡萄牙人独自对抗由共产主义集团和自由西方支持的代理人。

Aside from the distinction being ahistorical, it is also obsolete. Nations understood as Third World are now becoming increasingly sophisticated and wealthy. Last year, BRICS nations surpassed the G7 in global share of GDP per PPP. Naturally, these countries no longer feel they should have to tolerate bullying and harassment from the cabal in charge of Washington.

但这套认知不再符合历史，而且也过时了。被认为是第三世界的国家现在正变得越来越成熟和富有。去年，金砖国家按购买力平价计算的全球GDP份额超过了七国集团。自然，这些国家不再觉得他们应该忍受控制华盛顿的阴谋集团的欺凌和骚扰。

According to their own liberal indexes, both the United States and Israel are beginning to cluster with developing nations. The Economist’s Global Democracy Index placed America below three Latin America states in 2022. The United Nation’s Sustainable Development report, which tracks wealth inequality, health care, infrastructure, and education, ranks America at 39th and Israel at 48th, significantly below Europe and even many non-European states.

根据他们自己的自由指数，美国和以色列都开始向发展中国家靠拢。《经济学人》的全球民主指数在2022年将美国排在三个拉美国家之后。联合国的可持续发展报告追踪了财富不平等、医疗保健、基础设施和教育，美国排在第39位，以色列排在第48位，远远低于欧洲，甚至低于许多非欧洲国家。

So in other words, this informal distinction between First World and Third World is not clear cut, including on racial grounds. Diplomatic missions from the leader of the “free world” the United States increasingly lack white non-Jewish male representation, especially compared to their allegedly “third world” Russian counterparts. Some even joke that the judicial rulers in Iran’s Guardian Council are obxtively more Aryan than the heavily Jewish and multiracial US Supreme Court.

所以换句话说，第一世界和第三世界之间的这种非正式区分并不明确，包括基于种族的区分。“自由世界”领袖美国的外交使团越来越缺乏非犹太白人男性代表，特别是与他们所谓的“第三世界”俄罗斯同行相比。
一些人甚至开玩笑说，伊朗宪法监护委员会的司法统治者客观上比犹太人和多种族的美国最高法院更雅利安。
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As for the Western left, it’s true that they have retained some of their support for the Palestinian cause on human rights grounds, but they generally do not support Hamas, nor are they “Third Worldists” in any ideologically consistent sense.
Most American anarchists and communists support the CIA and Mossad backed Kurdish rebels in Rojava against the legitimate government of Syria, for example. Many Western leftists have even gone so far as to volunteer to fight with them.

对于西方左派来说，他们确实保留了一些对巴勒斯坦人权事业的支持，但他们通常不支持哈马斯，也不是任何意识形态上一致的“第三世界主义者”。 例如，大多数美国无政府主义者和共产主义者支持中央情报局，摩萨德支持罗贾瓦的库尔德叛军，反对叙利亚的合法政府。许多西方左翼分子甚至自愿与他们并肩作战。

In 2011, the American left rallied behind the US and NATO backed rebels against Muhammar Qaddaffi, perhaps one of the most influential “Third Worldists” to ever live. Marxists, many of them of Jewish ancestry, squared their bizarre support for Washington’s neo-conservative regime change endeavor by claiming that they supported the rebels but not the NATO bombing runs removing all the obstacles in their way.

2011年，美国左翼团结起来支持美国和北约支持的反政府武装，反对穆罕默德·卡扎菲，卡扎菲或许是有史以来最有影响力的“第三世界主义者”之一。
而其中的马克思主义者，他们中的许多人是犹太血统，通过声称他们支持叛军而不是北约的轰炸，消除了他们理论上的所有障碍，来解释他们对华盛顿新保守主义政权更迭努力的奇怪支持。

You won’t hear most Western leftists defend the right of Ugandans to pass anti-LGBT legislation, which the Africans have defended in anti-imperialist, third worldist terms. Few, if any, serious leftists celebrated the Taliban liberating its people from two brutal decades of US occupation.
In fact, prominent Marxist thought leaders like Slavoj Zizek support Western sanctions on Uganda. Zizek has been calling on the United States and NATO to intervene further on behalf of Ukraine!

你不会听到大多数西方左派捍卫乌干达人通过反同性恋立法的权利，而非洲人则以反帝国主义、第三世界主义的方式捍卫了这一权利。也很少有严肃的左派人士庆祝塔利班将其人民从美国长达20年的残酷占领中解放出来。
事实上，著名的马克思主义思想领袖如斯拉沃伊·齐泽克支持西方对乌干达的制裁。并且，齐泽克一直呼吁美国和北约代表乌克兰进行进一步干预！

Clearly the left is capable of compartmentalizing its hatred of white majorities in the West separately from its remarkably sympathetic views of America’s post-Obama left-liberal presented interventionist agenda. Polls show that right-leaning Americans are more isolationist and anti-war than left-leaning ones.
In truth, the views of Iran, Russia and China on issues such as gender, family values, tradition, and even immigration are much closer to those of the average American right-winger (and the global average), while the ruling ideology of the United States and the orientation of the Western left often appear hand-in-hand.

显然，左派有能力将其对西方占多数的白人的仇恨与对美国后奥巴马时代左翼自由主义干涉主义议程的同情区分开来。民意调查显示，右倾的美国人比左倾的人更倾向于孤立主义和反战。
事实上，伊朗、俄罗斯和中国在性别、家庭价值观、传统甚至移民等问题上的观点更接近美国右翼分子(以及全球平均水平)的观点，而美国的统治意识形态和西方左翼的取向往往是携手并进的。

The exception is left-wing rejection of America’s unlimited backing for the barbaric actions of the Israeli government. But this is not ideological, it’s a moral question. Nobody tries to characterize the universal disgust and outrage provoked by ISIS’ horrific behavior and moral support for the forces trying to stop them as anything more than what it is. Well guess what? The overwhelming majority of people feel the same way about a regime that deliberately murders children by the 10s of thousands. This does not make you a Marxist-Leninist-Maoist follower of Gonzalo thought.

唯一的例外是左翼拒绝接受美国对以色列政府野蛮行径的无限制支持。但这不是意识形态问题，而是道德问题。不想ISIS的恐怖行为，后者引发了普遍的厌恶和愤怒，所以左翼在道义上支持并试图阻止这个组织，没人对此有异议。
但你猜怎么着?绝大多数人对一个蓄意杀害成千上万儿童的政权（以色列）也有同样的看法。这并不能使你成为冈萨洛思想的马列毛主义追随者。
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Dragoslav says:
This author seems to have suffered a severe trauma recently. Having been disappointed in his political hopes and some white nationalist colleagues?
Hence an increasingly anti-white ideological turn that doesn’t demonstrate strong principles.
Certainly, a small Jewish minority (like the duplicitous and insufferable Robert Stark) will try to use white nationalists as useful idiots, but the vast majority will remain fiercely anti-white.
And then, this picture of the Iranian mullahs as “ Aryans “ : this ugly bunch of old arabs.
Time to buy new glasses, he ?
Ditto for the millions ( no less) of Middle Easterners , North Africans, and Caucasians who look like “‘pure Europeans “ : did this author ever get out of his hole in rural America? Pure Europeans like the hideous Caucasian terrorists of the Crocus, perhaps? Or the heavily negrified Algerians ?
I stopped reading after this mendacious nonsense.
I look forward to NEVER reading this whirling dervish author again.

这位作者最近似乎受到了严重的创伤。对他的一些白人民族主义同事和政治希望的破灭感到失望?越来越多的反白人意识形态转向没有表现出强有力的原则。
一小部分犹太人(比如奸诈而令人难以忍受的罗伯特·斯塔克)会试图把白人民族主义者当作有用的白痴，但绝大多数人仍将强烈反对白人。
然后，这篇文章居然把伊朗毛拉——一群丑陋的阿拉伯老男人描绘成“雅利安人”。是时候买新眼镜了，听到了吗?
同样，数百万中东人、北非人和高加索人看起来像“纯粹的欧洲人”？这位作者曾经走出他在美国农村的井底吗?纯粹的欧洲人？就像番红花里那些丑陋的高加索恐怖分子?或者是严重黑人化的阿尔及利亚人?
读到这些虚假的废话，我就不读了。我期待着再也不要读这个扭曲作家的东西。

NSMP says:
@Dragoslav Did you forget to take your medication today?

你今天忘记吃药了吗？

Understory says:
@DragoslavI read your comment several times attempting to make sense of it, but failed.

我读了几次你的评论，试图理解它，但失败了。

Godly6 says:
@Understory He’s provided a timely example – he’s basically the exact type of person the article is about.
He’s accusing Striker of “third worldism” and being insufficient in his support of white people.

他提供了一个及时的例子——他基本上就是这篇文章所描述的那种人。
他指责斯特莱克是“第三世界主义”，对白人的支持不够。