网飞版《三体》IMDB最新影评 政治正确,无脑白左,关系混乱,大碗喂屎,你敢说不香?
2024-04-18 bluebit 8329
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(网飞版《三体》其中一海报)
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(网飞版三体中五位重要角色,被网飞用户戏称为“牛津五人组”,因为这五个人物角色均有高大上的英国“牛津”学位背景)

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5/10 (注:评分)
Next season can't come fast enough(注:一句话短评)
Rob1331 8 April 2024 (注:ID+发表日期,以下同)

I've been looking forward to 3 Body Problem for what feels like a decade. I just binged the entire first season in two days and it's everything I hoped it would be and more. This series is adapted from the best selling novels of the same name. It's a show that will pull you into their world and not let go. There are so many mysteries that will keep your mind going the entire time. You can tell they put a lot of money into this show too because the visuals are absolutely beautiful. The only thing that could've been better was character development. I stole this quote from a review I read but I couldn't agree more, "3 Body Problem sets a new standard for what sci-fi is capable of." I'm already looking forward to next season. It can't come fast enough.

下季赶紧出来吧
《三体》剧我已经盼着能有十年了。这剧一放出我两天内就给刷完了,还好没令我失望,甚至比想象的还好些。这部剧是根据同名畅销小说改编的。它把你拉进他们的世界,让你无法释怀。好多的谜团会让你一直思考。可以看出他们为拍好这部剧下了血本,因为单从漂亮的视觉特效就能看出来。但角色的塑造差强人意。这评语话是我从一篇评论中借来的,《三体》剧为科幻小说的高度树立了一个新标准。”下一季赶紧放出来吧。我已经等不及了。

5/10
Dr. Salazar and teenager drama almost ruin the show
sadak7599 3 April 2024
The show is kind of cool, in spite of the changes introduced to the original novel and the strong changes on the characters from the novel, including the, of course, gender swaps.
That is fine, we can live with it. Probably all the changes made the story more palatable for western audiences. I understand also the reduction on the weight of science and the increase of the soapy drama ingredient.
But what almost ruined all, aside of a generally poor writing, are the main characters. Specially the Dr. Salazar character. So, they pretend that a young woman, looking like she just began the graduate school after winning a beauty contest, was a senior scientist in charge of a really big project. That is fine, I understand that they prefer a young, top model looking girl to play that role, than a more realistic looking, aged scientist. But we do not buy it.
It is a shame that the writers and cast transformed the story in a late-teenager/young adult adventure, with all the ingredients: the bunch of idiotic youngsters saving humanity, the teenager love dramas, and so on. And, over all, the main characters are not presented as a senior, extremely smart scientists with a lot of knowledge. On the contrary, they are a bunch of arrogant, presumptuous, irrational and overly emotional kids, that made watching the show almost unbearable, because we do not care about them.
Thankfully, Benedict Wong and. Liam Cunningham saved the day, as they nailed their parts, picturing the most interesting characters.
But, the worst of all of them is Dr. Salazar. Eiza Gonzalez was miscast as the obnoxius unbearable, arrogant, surprisingly irrational and unpleasant, unrealistic scientist. I wanted badly the San Ti liquidate her.
Overall, a soap opera telling the adventures of a bunch of stupid kids immersed in the fight against a future alien invasion. Ah, it is not hard sci-fi. It is fantasy, and if you think a bit about the plot, you will find it really stupid.

萨拉查和青春剧的剧情差点毁了这部剧(注:原著中的王淼被拆分成5个人物,其中2位为女性角色,分别是Salazar(萨拉查)和Jin Cheng(程心))
这部剧还是挺酷的,但剧情与人物照比原著出现了一些很大变化,有些人物性别竟然给改了!
好吧,无所谓,这我们尚可勉强接受。也许所有这些变化可以让西方观众更容易接受这个故事。科学成分的降低、类似肥皂剧情节的增加,这我都能理解。
但,改的乱七八糟,一切主要人物几乎都被毁了。尤其是萨拉查这个角色。所以,编剧们把它假想成一个年轻女性,感觉就像是刚拿到选美比赛冠军后才开始做研究的,而后才成了一个高级科学家,进而负责一个非常大的工程。没关系,这我都能理解,但他们是想用一个年轻貌美的顶级女模特来饰演这个角色,而不是用一个更现实,中年科学家。我无法接受。
遗憾的是,编剧和演员们把这个故事变成了一个青春期晚期或着说青年人的冒险故事,青春剧里的那些破事一个没落,比如,一群愚蠢的年轻人去拯救人类,青少年之间谈恋爱什么的。还有,总的来说,主角并不是作以一个资深的、智慧超群的、饱含诗书的科学家身份现身的。相反,她以一种傲慢、自以为是、不理性、叛逆的少年身份出现的,这让我们在看这部剧时感觉如鲠在喉,令人生厌。
谢天谢地,本尼迪克特·王(注:饰演大史)和利亚姆·坎宁安(注:饰演军方将军)挽回了一些口碑,因为他们出色地完成自己的任务,角色的塑造尤为出彩。
但糟糕就糟糕在萨拉查博士。艾莎·冈萨雷斯(Eiza Gonzalez 其中一女版汪淼)被错误地塑造成一个令人讨厌、难以忍受、傲慢、匪夷所思、高冷,反常识的科学家。我真想把她给噶掉。
总体来说,这就是一部肥皂剧,这部《三体》剧就是在讲一群蠢孩子沉浸于防止未来外星人入侵的冒险故事。跟硬科幻毫无关联。充其量就是一部奇幻剧,如果你稍微琢磨一下剧中情节,你会发现这部剧真的很蠢。

5/10
Interesting concept - annoying characters
robert-babnick-834-308612 6 April 2024
Warning: Spoilers
Alien invasion story is interesting enough. The aliens being called to earth out of spite to avenge the death of the main character's father was compelling. As with most Netflix series, it drags with terrible interpersonal melodrama. Casting is intersectional politics and DEI on steroids. The nano fiber scientists/entrepreneur/boss lady is one of the most obnoxious characters to ever be put on film. The most entertaining, comedy relief character gets offed too early. It's a watchable show but hard to stay engaged because it drags too much with the soap opera side plots. This season could've been effectively told in 3 episodes.

有趣的概念,令人生厌的角色
外星人入侵的故事很吸引人。外星人被召唤到地球是为了给主角死的父亲报仇,逻辑还算令人信服。但就像大多数网飞剧集一样,这部剧被混乱的人际关系拖了后腿。角色的选择受到太多的政治正确和多样平等包容(DEI)的制约
尤其那位以纳米纤维科学家、企业家、女老板多重身份集一身的女主角,尤其令人生厌。而最吸引人、最搞笑的角色却过早地下线。这是一部值得一看的电视剧,但其因为加入过多肥皂剧般支线剧情而显得过于拖沓,难以入迷。说实话,感觉这一季内容三集就能讲完。

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8/10
Mostly faithful but rushed
Isabellacheng 23 March 2024
Warning: Spoilers
This adaptation is largely faithful to the book, if your definition of faithful is "major events that happened in the books also happened in this show". The whole thing is rushed, and there is no time to let the events sink in. The first episode already covers half the first book. The mystery of what's behind the scientists' deaths and the thrill of the main characters uncovering the culprit are missing entirely from the show. The divide between the two branches of the three body organization is completely omitted. And where are the pendulums? The hard science that makes the source material so appealing is also "less hard" here. Two episodes in, we've already arrived at the famous "Do Not Answer" scene and know it's aliens. Despite having only 8 episodes, episodes 6 and 7 are nonsense fillers and by episode 8 we're already at book 2.

大部分符合原著但有赶工之嫌
改编很大程度上忠实原著,但如果你对忠实的定义是“书中发生的重要事情也能在这部剧里反映出来”的话。你会感觉剧情的推进很捉急,根本没有给观众充分了解、消化的时间。第一集就把三体第一部一半内容讲的差不多了。科学家死亡背后的奥秘和主角发现罪魁祸首的兴奋感在这部剧中完全消失。三体组织的两个分支之间的划分也完全给省祛了。钟摆在哪?基础材料这么吸引人的硬科学在剧里被说成“不怎么难”。看完两集才出现著名的“不要回答”场景,知道那是外星人。尽管只有8集,但第6、7集完全就是在拖时长,到第8集的时候才演到第二部开头。

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I don't mind the screenwriters adapting characters to a more international audience, splitting and combining some main characters so they can interact with each other because you can't really have an inner monologue like in a fiction. But it makes zero sense that "everybody knows everybody" or that some early- to mid-thirties are heads of research centers. The epic feeling is gone because the show is made too UK-centric. Different genders and ethnic groups are "represented", but somehow they all have a British (Oxford) upbringing. Major world powers including the US, Japan, continental Europe, and Chinese-Chinese (not British Chinese) are not represented at all. This work is supposed to be an epic that spans the globe, and spans centuries. Yet watching the "Oxford Five"'s relationship issues, it feels like teenage drama instead.

我不介意编剧为适应更国际化观众而做出的改动,把(书中)一些重要角色分开或结合起来,这样他们就可以互动交流方便叙事,因为在影视剧里你不可能像小说那样有大段内心独白。但 “大家都知道”这个梗,或把一些30-35岁左右的人塑造成研究中心的负责人,感觉狠不真实。根本没有体现出书中史诗般的感觉,因为这部剧太以大英帝国为中心了。不知何故,不同的性别和种族群体被“代表”,而且他们都有英国(牛津)的“素养”。包括美国、日本、欧洲大陆和华人(不是英国华人)的那些代表没被体现出来。这部作品被认为是一部跨越全球、跨越几个世纪的史诗。然而,看“牛津五人组”纠结感情问题,感觉更像是在看青春剧。

While I might sound negative, this work is miles ahead of whatever's crapping out of Disney/Marvel/SW these days. The CGI is fantastic, especially when it comes to visualizing the VR world. The C******* Revolution backstory is meticulously filmed, and the entire Chinese storyline, however short it is, is spoken in Chinese. I am delighted to see Chinese Sci-Fi being adapted for Western audience, hence +1 star for representation. Nonetheless, as with most shows these days though, please hire more competent writers.

我说的虽然有些悲观,但这部剧的水准已经远远超过迪士尼、漫威、华纳的作品了。视觉特效非常棒,尤其是在虚拟现实世界的视觉化方面。
WH大革命的故事背景精心设置,整个中文故事情节,有些情节无论多么短,都是用中文讲述的。我很高兴看到中国的科幻小说被改编成适合西方观众的作品,当然这也成了我给这部剧的加分选项。尽管如此,就像现在大多数剧集一样,还是请些更有能力的编剧吧。

5/10
Meh
LukeCustomer223 March 2024
This is a very uneven show. Some parts are thrilling and compelling... some meander and don't make sense. Some casting is spot on while some irritated me the entire time. I can't say I would be excited about a season 2. I never read the book but the show centers on 5 or 6 smart "scientists" dealing with the aftermath of a collapse of science. The main character Auggie -- a scientist who is supposed to be starting a nanotech company. Too bad she looks like a 23 year old supermodel who I don't buy as a scientist for a second. There is also some of the famous D&D poor writing with a dumbing down of the story as you can see they only allude to complicated subjects but never go into them. Then there is the idea that just about everything in the world just happens to happen to this 5 or 6 person friend group in London. Not buying it. There is also a plot line that goes over 6 or so of the episodes that, in the end, comes to nothing. Super uneven. There is just honestly no one to root for in this story even with actors doing their level best.

这部剧的质量让人感觉参差不一。有些部分令人激动人心引人入胜,而有些则磨磨唧唧相当无聊。有些选角很到位,而有些则一看就让人窝火。第二季是否让人兴奋我已不再期待。我从来没有读过这本书,但这部剧主要讲述了五六个聪明的“科学家”如何应对科学崩溃的后果。主角萨拉查一名科学家,他想要创办一家纳米技术公司。23岁超模身材模样的她令人感觉太出戏了,她的这个人设让人根本无法和科学家联系起来。这部剧还掺杂了类似著名《龙与地下城》桥段的叙事写作,你可以看到它们只是暗示主线的复杂性,但从未深入其中一探究竟。还有一种观点认为,好像世界上几乎所有怪事都碰巧发生在伦敦的这个五六个人朋友圈里。令人无法接受。还有一个情节居然用掉了六集左右来讲,但到最后还没有交代清楚。剧情分布相当不均。说实话,这部剧没有让人追的欲望,即使演员们付出了很大努力。

4/10
How much can you deviate from source material and still call that faithful to it?
Smarmelade 23 March 2024
I never want to be that person that says "Books are still better". But I'm being now, sorry.
I love the books, they are pretty great.
This show is not.
Except the main essence of the plot, everything else is different.
They apparently hate so much the first book that they rush past 60-70% of it in the first 3 episodes. And that is just sad.
What I do know, there is no mystery, tension, thriller, only those characters, being dragged through main plot while they deal with their petty BS.
You can fault Chinese series for some things but they at least kept it fairly close to the first book and made an okay show, if not one a bit too long and complicated at times with some elements omited/whitewashed. But it worked.
This is not that. It's worse compared to that show that came one year ago and it's far worse than the books it's "loosely" based on.
A lot of people say Benioff/Weiss failed in finishing Game of Thrones because they had no source material to rely on so they improvised. Well they had it here and they still bungled it up. Most things are made subpar, acting, characters, plot is flatlined, even music is 10 shades of gray whatever stuff. A lot of things went unexplained or explained badly, brushed off, especially some core science stuff which play a big role in the plot. That somewhat shows what creators think about their audience.
There is no sense of wonder, no amazement, no character development. It's not smart, funny, trippy or visually appealing - CGI is nothing to write home about. It's pretty lame and cliche filled affair tailored for modern western audiences that just consume and don't demand quality for their money. So, Netflix subscribers.
I don't know, you can watch it, it's disappointing. You can watch Chinese series, it's better, longer. But I would recommend books every time.

都改成这样了还好意思说忠于原著?
我之前从不认为“还是小说好”的人。但现在我道歉。
不是吹,还是小说好看,写的真棒
除了主线剧情,其他全都不一样了
很明显,这帮编辑非常讨厌这小说的第一部,他们用前三集就匆匆交代完第一部书60-70%的内容。让人无法接受。
我在原著改编的电视剧中从未见过这样的情节,他们把原著中的主角分成了五人。而改编一般情况下都是反着来,几个捏成一个。
我所知道的是,看这部剧没感觉到神秘,紧张,惊悚,只有在某些角色,在处理他们烂事时被拖进主线剧情。你可以在某些方面批评中国电视剧,但他们至少把它拍的极为贴近原著剧情,真心不错,唯一一点小缺憾就是剧情有点拖沓,还有点烧脑,书中某些细节虽被忽略或被掩饰。但中国版三体拍的真的很成功。
与一年前的中国版《三体》来比,网飞版三体简直糟糕透顶,照比原著它被改编得过于“粗劣”。
有人说戴维·贝尼奥夫和D·B·威斯没把《权力的游戏》拍好(注:《权游》剧制作人),那是因为原作者书没写完,剧本没了依据,所以就即兴发挥了。可网飞《三体》呢,原著就现成摆在那,但还是被他们给搞砸了。道具,表演、人物、剧情拍的都很一般,配乐毫无亮点。很多事情都无法解释或解释得一塌糊涂,好些重要因素还被刻意忽略,就比如那些起着至关重要的科学内容。可以看出这在某种程度上表明了创作者是如何理解他们的受众的。
这部剧既没惊艳、新鲜感,更没有人物成长轨迹。既不烧脑,搞笑,也不科幻,更没有视觉冲击力,视觉特效也就那样。这是一部非常蹩脚和充满陈词滥调的电影,专为现代西方观众量身定制的,其目的就是不为质量只为捞钱。所以网飞用户们你们看着办把!。
我不知道怎么说,你当然可以看,但这个版本的《三体》尤为令人失望。你可以去看看中国版《三体》,他们的《三体》叙事更好,剧集更长。但无论怎样,这部小说我强烈推荐。

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