越南在古代做过大帝国吗?
2024-11-11 青丘国的守护者 13610
正文翻译
Tim Tran
Some may refer to the kingdom of Xích Quỷ (2879–2524 BCE) established by King Kinh Dương, in which written records described it of this size:

有些人可能会提到国王禄续建立的赤鬼王国(公元前2879-2524年),在书面记录中描述了它的规模:

Unfortunately, this is legendary, and not real. There is no evidence of Xích Quỷ’s existence or being this big. At most, the records written centuries later were referring to the Baiyue tribes as a whole. In reality, those tribes never formed a united nation.
Some may refer to the kingdom of Văn Lang
established by Lạc Long Quân, in which written records described it of this size:

不幸的是,这是传说,而不是真实的。没有证据表明赤鬼王国的存在或者有这么大。最多,几个世纪后写的记录是指整个百越部落。事实上,那些部落从未形成一个统一的国家。
有些人可能会提到文朗王国,由雒龙君建立,在书面记录中描述了它的大小:

Unfortunately, this is also legendary, and not real, with the same basis as Xích Quỷ’s. However, it was plausible that the kingdom of Văn Lang was real, just not this big, and was ruled by the Lạc Việt, of whom China and Vietnam have differing opinions on its location. According to official Vietnamese history, this was its actual size:

不幸的是,这也是传说,而不是真实的,与赤鬼王国的基本盘差不多。然而,文朗王国是真实的,只是没有这么大,并且由Lạc Việt统治,中国和越南对其位置有不同的意见。根据越南官方历史,这是它的实际大小:

Some may refer to the state of Nanyue (204–111 BCE) established by Zhao Tuo, which became independent from the Qin empire. At its peak, this was the size:

有些人可能会提到赵佗建立的南越国(公元前204年至公元前111年),它从秦朝帝国中独立出来。在巅峰时期,它的规模是这样的:

However, whether Nanyue was a Chinese or Vietnamese state is still controversial. According to both modern Chinese and Vietnamese recognitions, Nanyue was a Chinese state that ruled the land of Vietnam, and was a conqueror that began the eras of Chinese domination. So no, this was not a Vietnamese state.
The largest empire Vietnam had ever become with clear historical records and effectively belonged to Vietnam was the empire of Đại Nam (1839–1945), with the size that included parts of modern-day Laos and Cambodia:

然而,南越是中国还是越南的一个州仍然有争议。根据现代中国人和越南人的认知,南越是一个统治越南土地的中国国家,是一个开启了中国统治时代的征服者。所以不,这不是一个越南国家。
根据明确的历史记录,越南成为的最大帝国实际上属于越南的是大南帝国(1839-1945),其疆域包括今天老挝和柬埔寨的部分地区:

During Emperor Minh Mạng of Nguyễn dynasty, Vietnam reached its peak in physical size, swallowing up most of Cambodia, half of Laos, with vassalage from the Lao kingdom of Champasak and Jrai chiefdoms in modern-day Central Vietnam.

在Nguyễn王朝的明明命帝时期,越南的疆域达到了顶峰,吞并了柬埔寨的大部分,老挝的一半领土,这些领土原本属于占巴塞的老挝王国;以及征服了今天越南中部的杰莱酋长领地。
(译注:占巴塞(Champasak)曾经是老挝王国的首都,是一座只有一条道路的慵懒城镇。)
 
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Tim Tran
Some may refer to the kingdom of Xích Quỷ (2879–2524 BCE) established by King Kinh Dương, in which written records described it of this size:

有些人可能会提到国王禄续建立的赤鬼王国(公元前2879-2524年),在书面记录中描述了它的规模:

Unfortunately, this is legendary, and not real. There is no evidence of Xích Quỷ’s existence or being this big. At most, the records written centuries later were referring to the Baiyue tribes as a whole. In reality, those tribes never formed a united nation.
Some may refer to the kingdom of Văn Lang
established by Lạc Long Quân, in which written records described it of this size:

不幸的是,这是传说,而不是真实的。没有证据表明赤鬼王国的存在或者有这么大。最多,几个世纪后写的记录是指整个百越部落。事实上,那些部落从未形成一个统一的国家。
有些人可能会提到文朗王国,由雒龙君建立,在书面记录中描述了它的大小:

Unfortunately, this is also legendary, and not real, with the same basis as Xích Quỷ’s. However, it was plausible that the kingdom of Văn Lang was real, just not this big, and was ruled by the Lạc Việt, of whom China and Vietnam have differing opinions on its location. According to official Vietnamese history, this was its actual size:

不幸的是,这也是传说,而不是真实的,与赤鬼王国的基本盘差不多。然而,文朗王国是真实的,只是没有这么大,并且由Lạc Việt统治,中国和越南对其位置有不同的意见。根据越南官方历史,这是它的实际大小:

Some may refer to the state of Nanyue (204–111 BCE) established by Zhao Tuo, which became independent from the Qin empire. At its peak, this was the size:

有些人可能会提到赵佗建立的南越国(公元前204年至公元前111年),它从秦朝帝国中独立出来。在巅峰时期,它的规模是这样的:

However, whether Nanyue was a Chinese or Vietnamese state is still controversial. According to both modern Chinese and Vietnamese recognitions, Nanyue was a Chinese state that ruled the land of Vietnam, and was a conqueror that began the eras of Chinese domination. So no, this was not a Vietnamese state.
The largest empire Vietnam had ever become with clear historical records and effectively belonged to Vietnam was the empire of Đại Nam (1839–1945), with the size that included parts of modern-day Laos and Cambodia:

然而,南越是中国还是越南的一个州仍然有争议。根据现代中国人和越南人的认知,南越是一个统治越南土地的中国国家,是一个开启了中国统治时代的征服者。所以不,这不是一个越南国家。
根据明确的历史记录,越南成为的最大帝国实际上属于越南的是大南帝国(1839-1945),其疆域包括今天老挝和柬埔寨的部分地区:

During Emperor Minh Mạng of Nguyễn dynasty, Vietnam reached its peak in physical size, swallowing up most of Cambodia, half of Laos, with vassalage from the Lao kingdom of Champasak and Jrai chiefdoms in modern-day Central Vietnam.

在Nguyễn王朝的明明命帝时期,越南的疆域达到了顶峰,吞并了柬埔寨的大部分,老挝的一半领土,这些领土原本属于占巴塞的老挝王国;以及征服了今天越南中部的杰莱酋长领地。
(译注:占巴塞(Champasak)曾经是老挝王国的首都,是一座只有一条道路的慵懒城镇。)
 
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