加泰罗尼亚的混乱：将独立运动领导人关押13年-可能会引发什么问题？（二）
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Chaos in Catalonia: Locking up independence leaders for 13 years – what could possibly go wrong?
加泰罗尼亚的混乱：将独立运动领导人关押13年-可能会引发什么问题？（二）
加泰罗尼亚的混乱：将独立运动领导人关押13年-可能会引发什么问题？（二）
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Brusselcat to TirantLoBlanc
No they are just the puppets of the mafia bosses behind the curtain.
不，他们只是幕后黑手党老板们的傀儡。
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4. TirantLoBlanc
A sentence were judges write something roughly translated to English as : "While there is not proven they committed the crime, judges are convinced they did it". And I am not joking. This is real. Of course, Catalans are quite upset. But not only Catalans, anybody who takes justice seriously is upset.
法官们写下的其中一句话翻译成英文大意是：“虽然没有证据证明他们犯了罪，但法官们深信他们确实有犯罪”。 我这不是在开玩笑。 这是真的。 当然，加泰罗尼亚人非常愤怒。 但是不仅是加泰罗尼亚人，任何认真对待正义的人都会感到气愤。
A sentence were judges write something roughly translated to English as : "While there is not proven they committed the crime, judges are convinced they did it". And I am not joking. This is real. Of course, Catalans are quite upset. But not only Catalans, anybody who takes justice seriously is upset.
法官们写下的其中一句话翻译成英文大意是：“虽然没有证据证明他们犯了罪，但法官们深信他们确实有犯罪”。 我这不是在开玩笑。 这是真的。 当然，加泰罗尼亚人非常愤怒。 但是不仅是加泰罗尼亚人，任何认真对待正义的人都会感到气愤。
Welshman902 to TirantLoBlanc
The European Commission in Brussels fully understands the position of Spanish judges.
布鲁塞尔的欧盟委员会完全理解西班牙法官们的立场。
The European Commission in Brussels fully understands the position of Spanish judges.
布鲁塞尔的欧盟委员会完全理解西班牙法官们的立场。
TirantLoBlanc to Welshman902
Perfect example their decadent behavior. European Commission no longer protects citizens rights recognized in Europeans Laws. They are becoming more and more similar to a meeting of mafia bosses deciding how they share crime profits and how they can help each other.
完美的例子来描述他们的堕落行为。欧盟委员会不再保护欧洲法律承认的公民权利。他们正变得越来越像黑手党老大开会，决定如何分赃，以及如何相互帮助。
Perfect example their decadent behavior. European Commission no longer protects citizens rights recognized in Europeans Laws. They are becoming more and more similar to a meeting of mafia bosses deciding how they share crime profits and how they can help each other.
完美的例子来描述他们的堕落行为。欧盟委员会不再保护欧洲法律承认的公民权利。他们正变得越来越像黑手党老大开会，决定如何分赃，以及如何相互帮助。
Brusselcat to TirantLoBlanc
No they are just the puppets of the mafia bosses behind the curtain.
不，他们只是幕后黑手党老板们的傀儡。
Brusselcat to Welshman902
Of course. They are owned by the same Dark Force.
当然，他们属于同样的黑暗势力。
Of course. They are owned by the same Dark Force.
当然，他们属于同样的黑暗势力。
5. Citizenfitz
I think Stalin said it best: "Ideas are more dangerous than guns."
我认为斯大林说得最好：“思想比枪支更危险。”
I think Stalin said it best: "Ideas are more dangerous than guns."
我认为斯大林说得最好：“思想比枪支更危险。”
6. ArthurL913
Polly Boiko, the world''''s sexiest media personality.
Polly Boiko，世界上最性感的媒体人。
Polly Boiko, the world''''s sexiest media personality.
Polly Boiko，世界上最性感的媒体人。
Roude_Leiw to ArthurL913
You forgot about Abby Martin
你忘了Abby Martin。
You forgot about Abby Martin
你忘了Abby Martin。
ArthurL913 to Roude_Leiw
Yea, she was a babe too and I miss her RT show.
是的，她也很可爱，我怀念她的RT节目。
Yea, she was a babe too and I miss her RT show.
是的，她也很可爱，我怀念她的RT节目。
7. Studster
It''''s a dispute probably much like the break up of Yugoslavia. All the power is supposed to stay where the most arrogance is, and everybody else is supposed to pay the bill.
这很像是南斯拉夫解体之争。 所有的权力都掌握在最嚣张的人手里，然后其他所有人却需要付出代价。
It''''s a dispute probably much like the break up of Yugoslavia. All the power is supposed to stay where the most arrogance is, and everybody else is supposed to pay the bill.
这很像是南斯拉夫解体之争。 所有的权力都掌握在最嚣张的人手里，然后其他所有人却需要付出代价。
TirantLoBlanc to Studster
Quite a good definition.
很好的定义。
Quite a good definition.
很好的定义。
8. Greasy King
Be ready to support sedition and the breakup of your own country when you support the same for another.
当你支持另一个国家发生煽动叛乱和分裂的时候，请准备好支持同样的事情发生在你自己的国家。
Be ready to support sedition and the breakup of your own country when you support the same for another.
当你支持另一个国家发生煽动叛乱和分裂的时候，请准备好支持同样的事情发生在你自己的国家。
Bellcast to Greasy King
Hopefully it never comes to that in America but I don’t think the wings are listening to the body.
希望这种事情永远不会发生在美国，但是我不认为翅膀会听身体的话。
Hopefully it never comes to that in America but I don’t think the wings are listening to the body.
希望这种事情永远不会发生在美国，但是我不认为翅膀会听身体的话。
Jack Kelly to Greasy King
Would that include the break up of the the misnomer known as the UK -created through violence and genocide- with the English in charge and an unelected German hereditary monarchy and in which a gang of fascist thugs - with less than 1% popular support of the "UK" electorate- aka DUP/UDA have a veto?
这是否包括那个被错误地称为“英国”的国家的分裂——通过暴力和种族灭绝而建立——由英国人掌权，未经选举产生的德国裔世袭君主政体，以及一帮法西斯暴徒——在“英国”选民支持率不到1%——也就是DUP/UDA拥有否决权？
Would that include the break up of the the misnomer known as the UK -created through violence and genocide- with the English in charge and an unelected German hereditary monarchy and in which a gang of fascist thugs - with less than 1% popular support of the "UK" electorate- aka DUP/UDA have a veto?
这是否包括那个被错误地称为“英国”的国家的分裂——通过暴力和种族灭绝而建立——由英国人掌权，未经选举产生的德国裔世袭君主政体，以及一帮法西斯暴徒——在“英国”选民支持率不到1%——也就是DUP/UDA拥有否决权？
Disgusted to Jack Kelly
Let''''s hope
让我们期待着吧。
Let''''s hope
让我们期待着吧。
Welshman902 to Jack Kelly
we want a general election but St Jeremy Corbyn is blocking one - because he knows he is going to lose big time.
我们希望举行大选，但圣杰里米·科尔宾却阻止了大选，因为他知道自己会输掉大局。
we want a general election but St Jeremy Corbyn is blocking one - because he knows he is going to lose big time.
我们希望举行大选，但圣杰里米·科尔宾却阻止了大选，因为他知道自己会输掉大局。
9. Logicthought
Spain has returned to the Franco era with no democracy
西班牙回到了没有民主的弗朗哥时代。
Spain has returned to the Franco era with no democracy
西班牙回到了没有民主的弗朗哥时代。
Ignorancerules to Logicthought
study some history please
麻烦你学点历史谢谢。
study some history please
麻烦你学点历史谢谢。
Brusselcat to ignorancerules
Spain never left the Franco era. Those of the Franco era dictated the constitution. They gave them self immunity. Not one of them ever saw a judge.
西班牙从未离开弗朗哥时期。那些佛朗哥时期的人制定了宪法。他们给了他们自我豁免。他们中甚至没有人面对过法官。
Spain never left the Franco era. Those of the Franco era dictated the constitution. They gave them self immunity. Not one of them ever saw a judge.
西班牙从未离开弗朗哥时期。那些佛朗哥时期的人制定了宪法。他们给了他们自我豁免。他们中甚至没有人面对过法官。
Welshman902 to Logicthought
The Spanish just had a general election! A few months ago.
西班牙几个月前刚举行过大选。
The Spanish just had a general election! A few months ago.
西班牙几个月前刚举行过大选。
Brusselcat to Welshman902
And will have another one in november to choose puppet A, B or C.
然后11月还会再举行一次来选出傀儡A、B和C。
And will have another one in november to choose puppet A, B or C.
然后11月还会再举行一次来选出傀儡A、B和C。
10. Logicthought
Blocked from giving and opinion.
无法评判。
Blocked from giving and opinion.
无法评判。
11. Jesus christ
Yes, keep those traitors in prison.
是的，把那些叛徒关进监狱里。
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Yes, keep those traitors in prison.
是的，把那些叛徒关进监狱里。
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Newcomer611 to Jesus christ
In a civilized country, wanting freedom for your people should not be considered a treason. UK allowed Scots to hold a referendum on independence.
在一个文明的国家，为自己的人民争取自由不应被视为叛国。英国允许了苏格兰人举行独立公投。
In a civilized country, wanting freedom for your people should not be considered a treason. UK allowed Scots to hold a referendum on independence.
在一个文明的国家，为自己的人民争取自由不应被视为叛国。英国允许了苏格兰人举行独立公投。
Brusselcat to Newcomer611
And they boycotted it in every possible way when they discovered that independence would win. Even Outlander was forbidden to air before the referendum.
当他们发现独立公投会成功时，他们就以各种可能的方式抵制它。公投前甚至连《外乡人》都被禁止播放。
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And they boycotted it in every possible way when they discovered that independence would win. Even Outlander was forbidden to air before the referendum.
当他们发现独立公投会成功时，他们就以各种可能的方式抵制它。公投前甚至连《外乡人》都被禁止播放。
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12. haightdignor
No matter what side of the mood swing I''''m in/on, Polly makes me laugh seriously. Or is that seriously laugh !
无论我处于情绪波动的哪一边，Polly都会让我真正地笑。 或者说是笑得不行！
No matter what side of the mood swing I''''m in/on, Polly makes me laugh seriously. Or is that seriously laugh !
无论我处于情绪波动的哪一边，Polly都会让我真正地笑。 或者说是笑得不行！
13. Odininasgard
Spain is responsible for the generation of resistance against its policies towards the Catalans !
西班牙要对其对加泰罗尼亚人的政策所产生的抵抗负责！
Spain is responsible for the generation of resistance against its policies towards the Catalans !
西班牙要对其对加泰罗尼亚人的政策所产生的抵抗负责！
Braulio Irrutia to Odininasgard
Wrong.
错了。
Wrong.
错了。
14. Odininasgard
The Catalans are reacting to the oppression Spain is imposing !
加泰罗尼亚人正在对西班牙的压迫作出反应！
The Catalans are reacting to the oppression Spain is imposing !
加泰罗尼亚人正在对西班牙的压迫作出反应！
Braulio Irrutia to Odininasgard
WRONG. It is the whole establishment of corrupt political parties and royalty members.
错了。 这是腐败的政党和皇室成员构成的整个机构。
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WRONG. It is the whole establishment of corrupt political parties and royalty members.
错了。 这是腐败的政党和皇室成员构成的整个机构。
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15. anna2020
Madrid promised Catalonia a referendum but refused to deliver on the promise. Blame Madrid for the whole thing. 1. Don''''t make promises you don''''t mean. 2. Deliver on your promises or face the consequences. Madrid fails on all counts, and the courts rule in its favor? Despicable. Free Catalonia!
马德里答应加泰罗尼亚举行公投，但拒绝兑现承诺。整件事都怪马德里。1.不要许下你不想认的承诺。2.兑现你的承诺，否则就要面对后果。马德里在所有的指控上都失败了，然后法庭却裁决它胜诉？真卑鄙。解放加泰罗尼亚！
Madrid promised Catalonia a referendum but refused to deliver on the promise. Blame Madrid for the whole thing. 1. Don''''t make promises you don''''t mean. 2. Deliver on your promises or face the consequences. Madrid fails on all counts, and the courts rule in its favor? Despicable. Free Catalonia!
马德里答应加泰罗尼亚举行公投，但拒绝兑现承诺。整件事都怪马德里。1.不要许下你不想认的承诺。2.兑现你的承诺，否则就要面对后果。马德里在所有的指控上都失败了，然后法庭却裁决它胜诉？真卑鄙。解放加泰罗尼亚！
16. Trackker
Stalin once was asked how he got away with what he did. He then had a server bring a live chicken to his table. Grabbing the chicken by the throat, he began violently ripping the feathers out. Throwing the abused chicken on the floor, it sat dazed. Stalin then took a piece of bread and began dropping crumbs to it. The chicken came back and ate with him. Stalin knew exactly what he was doing and so do the Democrats.
斯大林曾经被问到他如何摆脱自己的所作所为。然后，他让一个服务员将一只活鸡带到他的桌子上。他抓住鸡的喉咙，开始猛烈地撕开羽毛。把那只受虐的鸡扔在地板上，呆呆地坐着。然后斯大林拿了一块面包，开始在上面撒面包屑。鸡回来了，吃他喂的食物。斯大林完全知道他在做什么，民主党人也知道。
Stalin once was asked how he got away with what he did. He then had a server bring a live chicken to his table. Grabbing the chicken by the throat, he began violently ripping the feathers out. Throwing the abused chicken on the floor, it sat dazed. Stalin then took a piece of bread and began dropping crumbs to it. The chicken came back and ate with him. Stalin knew exactly what he was doing and so do the Democrats.
斯大林曾经被问到他如何摆脱自己的所作所为。然后，他让一个服务员将一只活鸡带到他的桌子上。他抓住鸡的喉咙，开始猛烈地撕开羽毛。把那只受虐的鸡扔在地板上，呆呆地坐着。然后斯大林拿了一块面包，开始在上面撒面包屑。鸡回来了，吃他喂的食物。斯大林完全知道他在做什么，民主党人也知道。
Paco JonesMendas to Trackker
Sounds a lot like modern Republican Presidents to me.
在我看来，这很像一个当代共和党总统啊。
Sounds a lot like modern Republican Presidents to me.
在我看来，这很像一个当代共和党总统啊。
17. Camelhockey
Catalonia is rich and a strong economy. Spain is debt ridden. Spain needs Catalonia''''s money and will take it by force.
加泰罗尼亚是一个富强的经济体。西班牙负债累累。西班牙需要加泰罗尼亚的钱，拿不到就抢。
Catalonia is rich and a strong economy. Spain is debt ridden. Spain needs Catalonia''''s money and will take it by force.
加泰罗尼亚是一个富强的经济体。西班牙负债累累。西班牙需要加泰罗尼亚的钱，拿不到就抢。
Braulio Irrutia to Camelhockey
WRONG. Catalonia with its corrupt chamber of corrupt politicians are no better than those sitting in the Parliament. It''''s not about money, it''''s about everything that is corrupt within the higher echelons of society.
错了。加泰罗尼亚腐败的政客们并不比那些坐在议会里的人好多少。这不是钱的问题，而是社会高层内部的一切腐败问题。
WRONG. Catalonia with its corrupt chamber of corrupt politicians are no better than those sitting in the Parliament. It''''s not about money, it''''s about everything that is corrupt within the higher echelons of society.
错了。加泰罗尼亚腐败的政客们并不比那些坐在议会里的人好多少。这不是钱的问题，而是社会高层内部的一切腐败问题。
18. Paco JonesMendas
A Democratic Monarchy is like an Atheist Religion.
君主立宪制就像一个无神论宗教。
A Democratic Monarchy is like an Atheist Religion.
君主立宪制就像一个无神论宗教。
19. Cuca2acha
Nice one Polly.
Polly干得好。
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Nice one Polly.
Polly干得好。
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Brusselcat to OB23
You mean the central bank
你指的是央行。
You mean the central bank
你指的是央行。
21. rubber chicken
I''''d like to see the same violence for brexit..to get out of the EU.
我想看到英国脱欧出现同样的暴力行为。
I''''d like to see the same violence for brexit..to get out of the EU.
我想看到英国脱欧出现同样的暴力行为。
22. questionall
A great pity this extremely important protest against a vicious government in Madrid is treated so flippantly by the annoying Polly Boiko ...
令人遗憾的是，针对马德里恶棍政府的这一极其重要的抗议活动被烦人的Polly Boiko如此轻率地对待了...
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A great pity this extremely important protest against a vicious government in Madrid is treated so flippantly by the annoying Polly Boiko ...
令人遗憾的是，针对马德里恶棍政府的这一极其重要的抗议活动被烦人的Polly Boiko如此轻率地对待了...
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23. British Boxer
While it sounds like Catalans are the victims, they are not innocent, and hey are more like he n-@-z-i-s of Spain while many Spaniards are fascists. corrupted catalan officials to the core motivated more of self christian identity even against other Christians.
虽然听起来好像加泰罗尼亚人是受害者，但他们并不是无辜的，嘿这更像是西班牙的纳粹分子，同时许多西班牙人都是法西斯主义者。腐败的加泰罗尼亚官员们的核心动机更多出自于自我基督教徒身份的实现，为此他们甚至会与其他基督徒敌对。
While it sounds like Catalans are the victims, they are not innocent, and hey are more like he n-@-z-i-s of Spain while many Spaniards are fascists. corrupted catalan officials to the core motivated more of self christian identity even against other Christians.
虽然听起来好像加泰罗尼亚人是受害者，但他们并不是无辜的，嘿这更像是西班牙的纳粹分子，同时许多西班牙人都是法西斯主义者。腐败的加泰罗尼亚官员们的核心动机更多出自于自我基督教徒身份的实现，为此他们甚至会与其他基督徒敌对。
24. HarrievdHaghen
Contradiction for imperialists: In case an other nation conquers their country, they think they have a right to resist and strive for independence.
帝国主义者的矛盾：如果另一个国家征服了自己的国家，他们认为自己有权抵抗和争取独立。
Contradiction for imperialists: In case an other nation conquers their country, they think they have a right to resist and strive for independence.
帝国主义者的矛盾：如果另一个国家征服了自己的国家，他们认为自己有权抵抗和争取独立。
25. Logicthought
cc
（不知道什么意思）
cc
（不知道什么意思）
26. Merrill Kingston
The Catalans should stop destroying their own infrastructure in protest and move that protest to Madrid.
加泰罗尼亚人应该停止破坏自己的基础设施进行抗议，并将抗议活动转移到马德里。
The Catalans should stop destroying their own infrastructure in protest and move that protest to Madrid.
加泰罗尼亚人应该停止破坏自己的基础设施进行抗议，并将抗议活动转移到马德里。
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