【下】6年来，没有一个“印度制造”的大型国防项目取得进展
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No major ‘Make in India’ defence project has taken off in 6 yrs
6年来，没有一个“印度制造”的大型国防项目取得进展
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No major ‘Make in India’ defence project has taken off in 6 yrs
6年来，没有一个“印度制造”的大型国防项目取得进展
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HinsakAghori
Dude.... government needs to focus on DRDO.
It''''s less like isro and more like an RTO... typical government office where employees go to cash in free cheques
伙计……政府需要关注DRDO。
它不太像isro，更像RTO……典型的政府办公场所，雇员可以去那里兑换免费的支票。
abi_hawkeye
Agree.
Solution is privatizing all defense PSUs
同意。
解决办法就是把所有国防单元私有化。
SriHattiya
Issue is about the money. No politician wants to touch so much money even with a long pole, due to corruption allegations. Cue RaGa shouting about Rafale.
问题就是关于钱的。由于腐败指控，没有哪个政客愿意碰这么多钱，即使是用长杆。提示一下，RaGa大谈阵风。
jedimomos
No country should spend more than 2% of GDP on defense, specially developing countries, other parts of our country needs capital
任何国家的国防开支都不应超过GDP的2%，特别是发展中国家，我们国家的其他地区需要资金。
SriHattiya
No other country has such long contentious borders with China (a Great Power) or Pakistan (a rogue state), both nuclear armed adversaries. No other country has such convoluted borders with no natural barriers to act as a deterrent (Pakistan and Bangladesh borders). No other country''''s large swathes are claimed by other countries.
Tell me how many country maintain near 37 division army, near 170 warship navy, ~2000 aircraft air force, that too at peace time, all just for self defence. We both know that India does not maintain these for invading other nations but for self defence, and still these numbers still fall short.
If you want to maintain an elephant just on peanuts, I am sorry to inform you that the elephant is going to die soon. There is no use crying about defence if all you are going to do is sit lazily during peace and expect an under equipped, under trained defence force to match superior adversaries while you refuse to give them funds to equip themselves. Or do you want to army to execute ''''positional warfare maneuver'''' like back in 1962?
India needs at least 5% GDP spending annually to fight a two front war to a stalemate, not to win. For details you may want to read this book.
没有哪个国家与中国(一个大国)或巴基斯坦(一个流氓国家)有如此漫长的争议边界，二者都是拥有核武器的对手。没有哪个国家的边界（巴基斯坦和孟加拉国边界）像我们这样错综复杂，而且没有天然屏障来起到威慑作用。没有哪个国家的大片领土被其他国家所主张。
你告诉我，有多少国家维持着近37个师的陆军，近170艘军舰的海军，2000架飞机的空军，而且是在和平时期，这些全都只是为了自卫。我们都知道，印度维持这些数字不是为了侵略其他国家，而是为了自卫，但这些数字仍然不够。
如果你想仅仅用花生来维持一头大象的生存，那我很抱歉的告诉你，这头大象会很快死掉。如果你只是在和平时期懒散地坐着，指望一支装备低劣、训练不足的防御部队来对付强大的对手，而你却拒绝给他们资金装备自己，那么为国防而哭泣是没有用的。或者你希望军队像1962年那样实行阵地战战术？
印度每年至少需要5%的GDP支出，才能打一场两线战争，而且目的是与对手陷入僵局，而不是取得胜利。关于其中的细节，你可能需要读这本书。
Ahlawat46
Nehru''''s fault.
尼赫鲁的错。
Top_Customer
Literally
就是这样。
ObamaIsCrabDance
Godse''''s fault.
上帝的错。
Rikin Shah Rikin ShahMumbai
What is this all about, nothing happening under Make in India brand? Than we are going to keep on giving money to Russia and other arms dealer countries to procure those.
这些都是怎么回事？印度制造品牌下面没有任何成果？那我们会继续给俄罗斯和其他销售军火的国家送钱，来采购那些军备。
Modi maker
When Modi became PM in 2014, he boasted he will make India a manufacture hub of the world. After nearly 5 years, India is making nothing but babies.
2014年莫迪成为总理时，他吹嘘自己将使印度成为世界制造业中心。近5年过去了，印度没有生产任何东西，除了婴儿。
Rich Tech
Forget about Major.. not even minor.... has taken off....
别说大型……甚至小型项目都没有启动……
Bullet Bullet
All these slogans were just to build Modi''''s image in front of the world and win elections.. That''''s it....
所有这些口号只是为了在世界面前树立莫迪的形象，赢得选举。仅此而已……
Abheram Abheram
Pakistan shot down Mig 21 and captured our Pilot.....we shot down our own chopper Mi-17 on the same day...we claimed to have shot Paki F16 but without any proof....we attacked and killed 300 SIM cards in Balakot but Pakis claimed to have lost few trees .....still we voted for BJP overwhelmingly......then why do we need more weapons.
巴基斯坦击落了米格21，俘虏了我们的飞行员……同一天我们击落了自己的米17直升机……我们声称击落了巴基斯坦的F16，但是没有任何证据……我们声称攻击巴拉科特并杀死了300人，但巴基斯坦说他们损失了几棵树……但我们还是压倒性的给人民党投票……那我们为什么还需要更多武器呢。
Deepak Malik Deepak Malik
Jumlebaj ki sarkar chalti rahe bas. He’ll give one more uri and some religious stuff and then everything is ok. He can manage to foolish people easily because we are too much religious and patriotic during discussions but reality....
他会再说一些废话，一些宗教方面的东西，然后一切都没事了。他能够轻易愚弄人们，因为我们在讨论的时候过多的谈论宗教和爱国主义，而不是现实……
Anirban Saha Anirban Saha
It should be renamed as "Making Fool of India"
应该改名为“印度制造傻瓜”。
Pinaki Mukherjee Pinaki
It''''s better to do it in secrecy than reveal to media, china and congress.
最好秘密的做这些项目，而不是透露给媒体、中国和国大党。
Rajiv Mukundan Rajiv
country like. Iran can make sophisticated cruise missiles, helicopters, fighter jets without going to. any country to buy any military hardware''''s even after so much sanctions, we find very difficult to manufacture even good bullet proof vest for our. soldiers. We have best scientists, engineers, but the talented ones go abroad because of our reservation. policy. They find difficult to get into our system by the way of of caste and creed. Another reason our beaurocrats who never take any positive decision. once they use to blame the coalition government, where political interference by different parties, for the last 7 years a single majority government all they say no. corruption but could not implement single project, because of their inexperience. The country is going in tough condition, no economic growth, no jobs, only God can. save
伊朗这样的国家，在经过这么多制裁之后，都能制造精密的巡航导弹、直升飞机、战斗机，而不用去任何国家购买任何军事硬件，而我们发现，就连为我们的士兵制造良好的防弹背心都十分困难。我们拥有最好的科学家、工程师，但是那些有才华的人因为我们的保留政策都出国了。他们发现，通过种姓和教条的途径很难进入我们的体系。另一个原因是我们的官僚们从来不做任何积极的决定，他们总是指责联合政府，不同党派的政治干预，在过去的7年里，面对任何单一的多数政府，他们都说不要腐败，但由于自身经验不足，无法实施任何项目。这个国家正处于艰难的环境中，没有经济增长，没有工作，只有上帝可以拯救我们。
原创翻译：龙腾网 http://www.ltaaa.com 翻译：chuhao123 转载请注明出处
HinsakAghori
Dude.... government needs to focus on DRDO.
It''''s less like isro and more like an RTO... typical government office where employees go to cash in free cheques
伙计……政府需要关注DRDO。
它不太像isro，更像RTO……典型的政府办公场所，雇员可以去那里兑换免费的支票。
abi_hawkeye
Agree.
Solution is privatizing all defense PSUs
同意。
解决办法就是把所有国防单元私有化。
SriHattiya
Issue is about the money. No politician wants to touch so much money even with a long pole, due to corruption allegations. Cue RaGa shouting about Rafale.
问题就是关于钱的。由于腐败指控，没有哪个政客愿意碰这么多钱，即使是用长杆。提示一下，RaGa大谈阵风。
jedimomos
No country should spend more than 2% of GDP on defense, specially developing countries, other parts of our country needs capital
任何国家的国防开支都不应超过GDP的2%，特别是发展中国家，我们国家的其他地区需要资金。
SriHattiya
No other country has such long contentious borders with China (a Great Power) or Pakistan (a rogue state), both nuclear armed adversaries. No other country has such convoluted borders with no natural barriers to act as a deterrent (Pakistan and Bangladesh borders). No other country''''s large swathes are claimed by other countries.
Tell me how many country maintain near 37 division army, near 170 warship navy, ~2000 aircraft air force, that too at peace time, all just for self defence. We both know that India does not maintain these for invading other nations but for self defence, and still these numbers still fall short.
If you want to maintain an elephant just on peanuts, I am sorry to inform you that the elephant is going to die soon. There is no use crying about defence if all you are going to do is sit lazily during peace and expect an under equipped, under trained defence force to match superior adversaries while you refuse to give them funds to equip themselves. Or do you want to army to execute ''''positional warfare maneuver'''' like back in 1962?
India needs at least 5% GDP spending annually to fight a two front war to a stalemate, not to win. For details you may want to read this book.
没有哪个国家与中国(一个大国)或巴基斯坦(一个流氓国家)有如此漫长的争议边界，二者都是拥有核武器的对手。没有哪个国家的边界（巴基斯坦和孟加拉国边界）像我们这样错综复杂，而且没有天然屏障来起到威慑作用。没有哪个国家的大片领土被其他国家所主张。
你告诉我，有多少国家维持着近37个师的陆军，近170艘军舰的海军，2000架飞机的空军，而且是在和平时期，这些全都只是为了自卫。我们都知道，印度维持这些数字不是为了侵略其他国家，而是为了自卫，但这些数字仍然不够。
如果你想仅仅用花生来维持一头大象的生存，那我很抱歉的告诉你，这头大象会很快死掉。如果你只是在和平时期懒散地坐着，指望一支装备低劣、训练不足的防御部队来对付强大的对手，而你却拒绝给他们资金装备自己，那么为国防而哭泣是没有用的。或者你希望军队像1962年那样实行阵地战战术？
印度每年至少需要5%的GDP支出，才能打一场两线战争，而且目的是与对手陷入僵局，而不是取得胜利。关于其中的细节，你可能需要读这本书。
Ahlawat46
Nehru''''s fault.
尼赫鲁的错。
Top_Customer
Literally
就是这样。
ObamaIsCrabDance
Godse''''s fault.
上帝的错。
Rikin Shah Rikin ShahMumbai
What is this all about, nothing happening under Make in India brand? Than we are going to keep on giving money to Russia and other arms dealer countries to procure those.
这些都是怎么回事？印度制造品牌下面没有任何成果？那我们会继续给俄罗斯和其他销售军火的国家送钱，来采购那些军备。
Modi maker
When Modi became PM in 2014, he boasted he will make India a manufacture hub of the world. After nearly 5 years, India is making nothing but babies.
2014年莫迪成为总理时，他吹嘘自己将使印度成为世界制造业中心。近5年过去了，印度没有生产任何东西，除了婴儿。
Rich Tech
Forget about Major.. not even minor.... has taken off....
别说大型……甚至小型项目都没有启动……
Bullet Bullet
All these slogans were just to build Modi''''s image in front of the world and win elections.. That''''s it....
所有这些口号只是为了在世界面前树立莫迪的形象，赢得选举。仅此而已……
Abheram Abheram
Pakistan shot down Mig 21 and captured our Pilot.....we shot down our own chopper Mi-17 on the same day...we claimed to have shot Paki F16 but without any proof....we attacked and killed 300 SIM cards in Balakot but Pakis claimed to have lost few trees .....still we voted for BJP overwhelmingly......then why do we need more weapons.
巴基斯坦击落了米格21，俘虏了我们的飞行员……同一天我们击落了自己的米17直升机……我们声称击落了巴基斯坦的F16，但是没有任何证据……我们声称攻击巴拉科特并杀死了300人，但巴基斯坦说他们损失了几棵树……但我们还是压倒性的给人民党投票……那我们为什么还需要更多武器呢。
Deepak Malik Deepak Malik
Jumlebaj ki sarkar chalti rahe bas. He’ll give one more uri and some religious stuff and then everything is ok. He can manage to foolish people easily because we are too much religious and patriotic during discussions but reality....
他会再说一些废话，一些宗教方面的东西，然后一切都没事了。他能够轻易愚弄人们，因为我们在讨论的时候过多的谈论宗教和爱国主义，而不是现实……
Anirban Saha Anirban Saha
It should be renamed as "Making Fool of India"
应该改名为“印度制造傻瓜”。
Pinaki Mukherjee Pinaki
It''''s better to do it in secrecy than reveal to media, china and congress.
最好秘密的做这些项目，而不是透露给媒体、中国和国大党。
Rajiv Mukundan Rajiv
country like. Iran can make sophisticated cruise missiles, helicopters, fighter jets without going to. any country to buy any military hardware''''s even after so much sanctions, we find very difficult to manufacture even good bullet proof vest for our. soldiers. We have best scientists, engineers, but the talented ones go abroad because of our reservation. policy. They find difficult to get into our system by the way of of caste and creed. Another reason our beaurocrats who never take any positive decision. once they use to blame the coalition government, where political interference by different parties, for the last 7 years a single majority government all they say no. corruption but could not implement single project, because of their inexperience. The country is going in tough condition, no economic growth, no jobs, only God can. save
伊朗这样的国家，在经过这么多制裁之后，都能制造精密的巡航导弹、直升飞机、战斗机，而不用去任何国家购买任何军事硬件，而我们发现，就连为我们的士兵制造良好的防弹背心都十分困难。我们拥有最好的科学家、工程师，但是那些有才华的人因为我们的保留政策都出国了。他们发现，通过种姓和教条的途径很难进入我们的体系。另一个原因是我们的官僚们从来不做任何积极的决定，他们总是指责联合政府，不同党派的政治干预，在过去的7年里，面对任何单一的多数政府，他们都说不要腐败，但由于自身经验不足，无法实施任何项目。这个国家正处于艰难的环境中，没有经济增长，没有工作，只有上帝可以拯救我们。
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