2000美金的疫情补助迟迟未发，美网友怒了
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我想说的是假如我们国会里能少几个百万富翁的话，2000美元的纾困救济金早就发出去了。我们需要更多与我们有相同人生经验的工薪阶层去竞选公务职位。
我想说的是假如我们国会里能少几个百万富翁的话，2000美元的纾困救济金早就发出去了。我们需要更多与我们有相同人生经验的工薪阶层去竞选公务职位。
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flatworldart
Wholesome
Hugz
If they’ve ever been hungry and broke they certainly would sing a different tune.
如果他们这辈子挨过饿，破过产的话，他们肯定会换一种态度了。
Wholesome
Hugz
If they’ve ever been hungry and broke they certainly would sing a different tune.
如果他们这辈子挨过饿，破过产的话，他们肯定会换一种态度了。
Trippytrickster
Idk my uncle grew up like that, became a doctor, and he thinks anything that can help people break out of poverty is a waste of money.
我的叔叔就是在这样的环境下长大的，后来他成为了一名医生，他现在认为任何帮助穷人摆脱贫困的行为都是在浪费钱。
Idk my uncle grew up like that, became a doctor, and he thinks anything that can help people break out of poverty is a waste of money.
我的叔叔就是在这样的环境下长大的，后来他成为了一名医生，他现在认为任何帮助穷人摆脱贫困的行为都是在浪费钱。
thatHecklerOverThere
Yeah, a lot of people view "making it" as a status symbol. They'll just pull up the ladder behind them.
是啊，很多人觉得“有一番事业”是社会地位的象征。等他们爬上了社会的金字塔，第一件事就是把梯子撤了。
Yeah, a lot of people view "making it" as a status symbol. They'll just pull up the ladder behind them.
是啊，很多人觉得“有一番事业”是社会地位的象征。等他们爬上了社会的金字塔，第一件事就是把梯子撤了。
ricky_0930_
It's called survivorship bias
有种东西叫做“幸存者偏差”。
It's called survivorship bias
有种东西叫做“幸存者偏差”。
jonkl91
This
太对了
This
太对了
Survivorship bias is a very real thing. Most people are not self aware enough to understand that luck plays a part. You can work as hard as you want, but if you get hit by a drunk driver or catch a rare disease, all that hard work can easily go away.
幸存者偏差是非常真实的。人们基本都意识不到运气在他们的生命中扮演者怎样重要的角色。你大可像打了鸡血一样地努力，但假如你被一个喝了酒的司机给撞了，或者得了什么罕见的病症，你之前的全部努力就全部白费了。
幸存者偏差是非常真实的。人们基本都意识不到运气在他们的生命中扮演者怎样重要的角色。你大可像打了鸡血一样地努力，但假如你被一个喝了酒的司机给撞了，或者得了什么罕见的病症，你之前的全部努力就全部白费了。
I am doing well now but I know that a few bad events could have turned my life upside down.
我现在生活得还不错，但是我知道只需要发生几件坏事，我的人生就可以一路跌至谷底。
我现在生活得还不错，但是我知道只需要发生几件坏事，我的人生就可以一路跌至谷底。
hirasmas
Exactly this. Most of the people that I know that are the strongest opponents to Government Assistance are people that had rough childhoods and are doing OK now as adults. I know a number of these types that are strongly opposed to helping anyone because they feel like they succeeded on hard work alone and "didn't get any help."
完全正确。我认识的那些对政府提供的保障计划最抵触的人，基本都是那些童年过得非常困难，但是成年之后过得还不错的人。我认识很多这种反对帮助别人的人，因为他们觉得他们是依靠完全依靠自己的努力成功的，“没从别人那里获得任何帮助”。
Exactly this. Most of the people that I know that are the strongest opponents to Government Assistance are people that had rough childhoods and are doing OK now as adults. I know a number of these types that are strongly opposed to helping anyone because they feel like they succeeded on hard work alone and "didn't get any help."
完全正确。我认识的那些对政府提供的保障计划最抵触的人，基本都是那些童年过得非常困难，但是成年之后过得还不错的人。我认识很多这种反对帮助别人的人，因为他们觉得他们是依靠完全依靠自己的努力成功的，“没从别人那里获得任何帮助”。
thelastestgunslinger
The Just World Hypothesis in action - everything I have, I earned without luck, and deserve it, therefore if you don’t have as much as me, you can’t have worked as hard or be as deserving.
这就是“正义世界假设”的现实版——只要是我有的，我都是不靠运气全靠努力挣来的，所以我都配得上这些，所以假如你没有我拥有的东西多，你要么就是不够努力，要么就是配不上。
The Just World Hypothesis in action - everything I have, I earned without luck, and deserve it, therefore if you don’t have as much as me, you can’t have worked as hard or be as deserving.
这就是“正义世界假设”的现实版——只要是我有的，我都是不靠运气全靠努力挣来的，所以我都配得上这些，所以假如你没有我拥有的东西多，你要么就是不够努力，要么就是配不上。
People often discount the role of luck in their own success. The result is that they think anybody could be in their situation, if only they worked hard enough.
人们经常有意地低估运气在他们的成功中起到的作用。结果就是他们认为随便换个什么人放在自己的位置，只要他足够努力，他都能达到和自己一样的地位。
人们经常有意地低估运气在他们的成功中起到的作用。结果就是他们认为随便换个什么人放在自己的位置，只要他足够努力，他都能达到和自己一样的地位。
owleealeckza
No they wouldn't. Plenty of rich people have been broke before & still chosen to screw over the poor.
不，他们才不会（换一种态度）。有很多富人之前曾经破产过，但现在仍然愿意骑在穷人的脖子上。
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No they wouldn't. Plenty of rich people have been broke before & still chosen to screw over the poor.
不，他们才不会（换一种态度）。有很多富人之前曾经破产过，但现在仍然愿意骑在穷人的脖子上。
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mosthated2
Hugz
Right, Mitch McConell has a 22.5 million net worth. Plenty of other politicians are in similar situations. They are ignorant to suffering and even with it right in their faces the lack of empathy makes it even more disgusting.
没错，米奇·麦康奈尔（美国参议院多数党领袖）的个人净资产是2250万美元。有很多其他的政治家的经济地位与他相仿。他们对于其他人的痛苦熟视无睹，这种对他人缺乏共情的态度更加令人作呕。
Hugz
Right, Mitch McConell has a 22.5 million net worth. Plenty of other politicians are in similar situations. They are ignorant to suffering and even with it right in their faces the lack of empathy makes it even more disgusting.
没错，米奇·麦康奈尔（美国参议院多数党领袖）的个人净资产是2250万美元。有很多其他的政治家的经济地位与他相仿。他们对于其他人的痛苦熟视无睹，这种对他人缺乏共情的态度更加令人作呕。
unculturedwine
Not to mention his wife’s parents are billionaires
更不用说他妻子的父母都是亿万富翁了。
Not to mention his wife’s parents are billionaires
更不用说他妻子的父母都是亿万富翁了。
_never_knows_best
Have you ever met a middle class Republican? They’re not going to give money to anyone. Rich, business tycoon Republicans are way more likely to increase unemployment insurance or send out stimulus checks than other Republicans. Or, just look at how support for the relief bill is playing out. Sanders is way richer than Biden, but wants to send out more money. Dems think they can get Romney, a literal Republican capitalist, to support it, but Paul, a Republican eye doctor, definitely won’t.
你见过中产阶级的共和党人吗？他们可不会把自己的财富给任何人。那些有钱的共和党商业大亨反倒是比起其他共和党人更愿意提高失业保险额度或者发放经济刺激支票的。或者你只要看看对疫情纾困法案的支持情况就能看出来了。伯尼桑德斯比拜登有钱的多了，但他愿意捐出更多的Ian。民主党人认为他们能让罗姆尼，一名共和党的资本家，来支持这个法案，但保罗，一名共和党的眼科医生，绝对不会支持。
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Have you ever met a middle class Republican? They’re not going to give money to anyone. Rich, business tycoon Republicans are way more likely to increase unemployment insurance or send out stimulus checks than other Republicans. Or, just look at how support for the relief bill is playing out. Sanders is way richer than Biden, but wants to send out more money. Dems think they can get Romney, a literal Republican capitalist, to support it, but Paul, a Republican eye doctor, definitely won’t.
你见过中产阶级的共和党人吗？他们可不会把自己的财富给任何人。那些有钱的共和党商业大亨反倒是比起其他共和党人更愿意提高失业保险额度或者发放经济刺激支票的。或者你只要看看对疫情纾困法案的支持情况就能看出来了。伯尼桑德斯比拜登有钱的多了，但他愿意捐出更多的Ian。民主党人认为他们能让罗姆尼，一名共和党的资本家，来支持这个法案，但保罗，一名共和党的眼科医生，绝对不会支持。
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The idea that middle class people are going to make decisions that help the poor and middle class, while rich people only want to help other rich people, sounds good if you don’t think too hard about it, but it’s not how people in the real world behave.
中产阶级想要帮助穷人和其他中产阶级，而富人只想帮助其他富人，这样的想法虽然听起来还不错，但禁不住仔细思考。现实世界的人才不会如此行事。
中产阶级想要帮助穷人和其他中产阶级，而富人只想帮助其他富人，这样的想法虽然听起来还不错，但禁不住仔细思考。现实世界的人才不会如此行事。
Tackle_History
Poor people can’t afford to run for public office. They can’t afford the time away from work. The US Constitution was written by rich white men to benefit rich white men.
穷人负担不起竞选公务职位的花销。他们无法承担脱产竞选的代价。美国的宪法就是由有钱的白人写出来，为有钱的白人服务的。
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Poor people can’t afford to run for public office. They can’t afford the time away from work. The US Constitution was written by rich white men to benefit rich white men.
穷人负担不起竞选公务职位的花销。他们无法承担脱产竞选的代价。美国的宪法就是由有钱的白人写出来，为有钱的白人服务的。
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GolfBaller17
The Slaver's Constitution should have been scrapped and totally rewritten after the Civil War. That hypocritical document was obviously inadequate for the needs of working class people considering the, you know, civil war that had just taken place.
这篇奴隶主的宪法早在美国内战结束之后就应该撕掉重写了。那份虚伪的法案显然没有办法满足工薪阶层的需求，他们不是为此都打了一场内战吗。
The Slaver's Constitution should have been scrapped and totally rewritten after the Civil War. That hypocritical document was obviously inadequate for the needs of working class people considering the, you know, civil war that had just taken place.
这篇奴隶主的宪法早在美国内战结束之后就应该撕掉重写了。那份虚伪的法案显然没有办法满足工薪阶层的需求，他们不是为此都打了一场内战吗。
bigfunone2020
That is the problem. It takes ENORMOUS amounts of money to run for office. It is hard for working or poor or moral people to stand a chance of running.
问题就在于此。为了竞选一份公务职位，你需要投入非常大量的金钱。对于工薪阶层，穷苦百姓或者有道德的人来说，想要获得竞选的机会都非常困难。
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That is the problem. It takes ENORMOUS amounts of money to run for office. It is hard for working or poor or moral people to stand a chance of running.
问题就在于此。为了竞选一份公务职位，你需要投入非常大量的金钱。对于工薪阶层，穷苦百姓或者有道德的人来说，想要获得竞选的机会都非常困难。
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I think 1/2 of the senate seats should be like jury duty. Draw X many names per seat and vett them, and have a vote for one of them that pass vetting. No advertising outside of official channels.
我认为参议院的二分之一席位应当是法律规定的义务。给每个席位抽X个人，让他们接受审核，让那些通过审核的人每人都有一票。除了官方渠道以外没有其他广告的空间。
我认为参议院的二分之一席位应当是法律规定的义务。给每个席位抽X个人，让他们接受审核，让那些通过审核的人每人都有一票。除了官方渠道以外没有其他广告的空间。
bungmunch
I've felt for a long time that I would love to see a president (or someone in any important position really) who's been to prison and been rehabilitated. I want a leader who's been poor and knows what it's like to struggle survive in this world. I want someone I can relate to, not someone who has always lived a rich cushy life and hasn't experienced what most of america does. why are we so heavily represented by people who live such vastly different lives than the majority of us? also prison reform is high on my priorities list so I would be so so grateful to see leadership from people who have seen both sides of that.
我一直觉得自己非常乐于见到一名曾经进过监狱或者戒过毒的人当上总统（或者任何重要职位，真的）。我希望能有一个过过穷日子的，知道在这个世界上活下来you多么不容易的人来领导我。我希望那个人能让我产生共情，而不是过了一辈子又舒服又有钱的生活，没经历过绝大多数美国人曾经历过的人生。我们为什么一直都被那些和我们的生活完全不同的人来代表？另外我很重视监狱改革，所以假如有一个铁窗两侧的风景都见过的人来领导我们的话我会非常感激的。
I've felt for a long time that I would love to see a president (or someone in any important position really) who's been to prison and been rehabilitated. I want a leader who's been poor and knows what it's like to struggle survive in this world. I want someone I can relate to, not someone who has always lived a rich cushy life and hasn't experienced what most of america does. why are we so heavily represented by people who live such vastly different lives than the majority of us? also prison reform is high on my priorities list so I would be so so grateful to see leadership from people who have seen both sides of that.
我一直觉得自己非常乐于见到一名曾经进过监狱或者戒过毒的人当上总统（或者任何重要职位，真的）。我希望能有一个过过穷日子的，知道在这个世界上活下来you多么不容易的人来领导我。我希望那个人能让我产生共情，而不是过了一辈子又舒服又有钱的生活，没经历过绝大多数美国人曾经历过的人生。我们为什么一直都被那些和我们的生活完全不同的人来代表？另外我很重视监狱改革，所以假如有一个铁窗两侧的风景都见过的人来领导我们的话我会非常感激的。
dont-YOLO-ragequit
This.
太对了
This.
太对了
Being an influencer and have millions of views around the world(billions of people with internet access) is one thing.
在网上成为一名全球范围（能用上互联网的数十亿人）内有百万点击量的意见领袖是一件事。
在网上成为一名全球范围（能用上互联网的数十亿人）内有百万点击量的意见领袖是一件事。
Having close to 50% of retired, working, employees, contractors,, directors, owners, rich, poor, upstate, downtown, every ethnicity, every gender to know your name AND agree with all your polarising choice in one area all in under 6 months with the average attention span takes a LOT of reaching out.
在一片区域内让将近50%的退休的，正在工作的，雇员，雇主，导演，产权人，富人，穷人，郊县，市中心，每个种族，每个性别的人，在六个月之内都知道你的名字，并且认同你全部的政治选择，这比起成为意见领袖可要花太多功夫了。
在一片区域内让将近50%的退休的，正在工作的，雇员，雇主，导演，产权人，富人，穷人，郊县，市中心，每个种族，每个性别的人，在六个月之内都知道你的名字，并且认同你全部的政治选择，这比起成为意见领袖可要花太多功夫了。
MAXIMILIAN-MV
I’ve been trying to work this out in my head for years. Create a general campaign fund for all candidates. All donations go into the general fund and are distributed evenly. No private money can be spent, no direct donations can be taken. Any outlet that sells advertising space must offer all candidates the same rate. Or something..
我一直都在试着想明白这件事。为所有候选人提供一个总的竞选基金。所有的捐款都汇到竞选基金里，在各候选人之间评寻分配。不能花私人的钱，不能进行直接捐赠。任何销售广告空间的广告位都必须给所有竞选人出同样的价钱。或者别的。
I’ve been trying to work this out in my head for years. Create a general campaign fund for all candidates. All donations go into the general fund and are distributed evenly. No private money can be spent, no direct donations can be taken. Any outlet that sells advertising space must offer all candidates the same rate. Or something..
我一直都在试着想明白这件事。为所有候选人提供一个总的竞选基金。所有的捐款都汇到竞选基金里，在各候选人之间评寻分配。不能花私人的钱，不能进行直接捐赠。任何销售广告空间的广告位都必须给所有竞选人出同样的价钱。或者别的。
mr_poppers_pangolins
Ive heard people make the argument that we should be able to gut a congressperson's pay. And normally, id agree with that, only a lot of congress get their money outside their congress salary, so gutting pay like that would hurt the non-millionaire representatives like AOC. I feel like congressmen shouldnt be able to hold office if their networth is in the 6 figures--period. That means, they wouldn't be able to accept deals from lobbyists, or invest in the stockmarket or come from generational wealth. They'd be actively incentivised to make life easier for working class people instead of CEOs. Because if we get fucked, they get fucked too.
我听见有人说我们应当砍国会议员的薪酬。通常来讲我暂称这一观点，但是因为太多的国会议员都会拿工资以外的收入，所以砍他们的薪酬的话反倒会伤害到AOC（译注：民主党议员Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez)这种不是百万富翁的议员。我觉得假如议员的身家超过了六位数，那他们就不应该再接着在国会任职。这意味着他们就不能和利益相关的游说者签合同，也不能拿公家的钱去炒股。他们就会有正向的激励来为工薪阶层，而不是CEO们，改善生活质量。因为假如我们过不好，那他们也过不好。
Ive heard people make the argument that we should be able to gut a congressperson's pay. And normally, id agree with that, only a lot of congress get their money outside their congress salary, so gutting pay like that would hurt the non-millionaire representatives like AOC. I feel like congressmen shouldnt be able to hold office if their networth is in the 6 figures--period. That means, they wouldn't be able to accept deals from lobbyists, or invest in the stockmarket or come from generational wealth. They'd be actively incentivised to make life easier for working class people instead of CEOs. Because if we get fucked, they get fucked too.
我听见有人说我们应当砍国会议员的薪酬。通常来讲我暂称这一观点，但是因为太多的国会议员都会拿工资以外的收入，所以砍他们的薪酬的话反倒会伤害到AOC（译注：民主党议员Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez)这种不是百万富翁的议员。我觉得假如议员的身家超过了六位数，那他们就不应该再接着在国会任职。这意味着他们就不能和利益相关的游说者签合同，也不能拿公家的钱去炒股。他们就会有正向的激励来为工薪阶层，而不是CEO们，改善生活质量。因为假如我们过不好，那他们也过不好。
617BigBerg
Well congressman’s pay $174,000 which is six figures but I don’t think they shouldn’t be allow to run or hold office if the make 6 figures or more. I think we should have equal representation amongst individuals of different social economic backgrounds
现在议员的年薪是17.4万美元，确实是六位数，但我不认为他们赚六位数以上的钱就不应该执政。我觉得我们应当拥有更多来自不同社会经济背景的人来均等地代表我们。
Well congressman’s pay $174,000 which is six figures but I don’t think they shouldn’t be allow to run or hold office if the make 6 figures or more. I think we should have equal representation amongst individuals of different social economic backgrounds
现在议员的年薪是17.4万美元，确实是六位数，但我不认为他们赚六位数以上的钱就不应该执政。我觉得我们应当拥有更多来自不同社会经济背景的人来均等地代表我们。
mr_poppers_pangolins
That it is. And its too much. Cut that ish down down 90k minimum. The only way the pay cut will be effective is if every representative is forced to have a networth of under that threshold. And lol equal representation of ALL socio-economic backgrounds? Fine, let's be governed by ppl who know what its like to be poor or middle class. But no one on this subreddit is interested in being represented by someone who owns three properties. The rich/ upper middle class have way too much representation as is, and let's face it: when life gets better for poor, everyone's else's quality of life gets better. But when the stock market goes up, minimum wage stays the same and rent is due.
说的太对了。而且你还是太仁慈了。把那玩意儿砍到九万。降低薪酬有效的唯一情况就是每个代表所拥有的净资产都必须在此之下。并且所有社会经济学背景都应当被均等地代表？好啊，我们应当被那些知道穷人或中产阶级生存状况的人来领导。这个子版块里的网友没人愿意被有三套房的人代表。有产阶级、上层中产阶级所拥有的代表已经太多了，我们面对事实吧：只要穷人的日子过得好，每个人的生活质量都会提高。但是当股票市场上涨，最低工资却不会改变，房租也不会延期。
That it is. And its too much. Cut that ish down down 90k minimum. The only way the pay cut will be effective is if every representative is forced to have a networth of under that threshold. And lol equal representation of ALL socio-economic backgrounds? Fine, let's be governed by ppl who know what its like to be poor or middle class. But no one on this subreddit is interested in being represented by someone who owns three properties. The rich/ upper middle class have way too much representation as is, and let's face it: when life gets better for poor, everyone's else's quality of life gets better. But when the stock market goes up, minimum wage stays the same and rent is due.
说的太对了。而且你还是太仁慈了。把那玩意儿砍到九万。降低薪酬有效的唯一情况就是每个代表所拥有的净资产都必须在此之下。并且所有社会经济学背景都应当被均等地代表？好啊，我们应当被那些知道穷人或中产阶级生存状况的人来领导。这个子版块里的网友没人愿意被有三套房的人代表。有产阶级、上层中产阶级所拥有的代表已经太多了，我们面对事实吧：只要穷人的日子过得好，每个人的生活质量都会提高。但是当股票市场上涨，最低工资却不会改变，房租也不会延期。
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crystal_crafted
The cost of living in DC & having security consumes most of the non wealthy members current salaries. If an elected official is truly working for the people, then we should only allow grassroots/crowdfunding for campaigns with a individual cap of $2k. No more $5k-a-seat political fundraisers and no corporate lobby cash.
在华盛顿特区，光是日常开销以及购买社保这两样开支就要花掉不富裕的人基本所有工资了。假如一名当选的官员是真的在为人民服务，那么我们应当只允许草根阶层和众筹来为他的竞选提供资金，每个人至多捐献2000美元。不能再有那种5000美元买一个席位的政治筹资晚会，也不能再有公司游说者的捐款了。
crystal_crafted
The cost of living in DC & having security consumes most of the non wealthy members current salaries. If an elected official is truly working for the people, then we should only allow grassroots/crowdfunding for campaigns with a individual cap of $2k. No more $5k-a-seat political fundraisers and no corporate lobby cash.
在华盛顿特区，光是日常开销以及购买社保这两样开支就要花掉不富裕的人基本所有工资了。假如一名当选的官员是真的在为人民服务，那么我们应当只允许草根阶层和众筹来为他的竞选提供资金，每个人至多捐献2000美元。不能再有那种5000美元买一个席位的政治筹资晚会，也不能再有公司游说者的捐款了。
surfdad67
The house was supposed to be just that, lawyers, doctors, teachers, doing a quick 4 years for your country and going back home, not a career like it is now
国会本来就应该是这个样子的，律师，医生和老师们，花费四年的时间为你的国家出谋划策然后再回家，而不是像现在这样成为一个独立的职业。
The house was supposed to be just that, lawyers, doctors, teachers, doing a quick 4 years for your country and going back home, not a career like it is now
国会本来就应该是这个样子的，律师，医生和老师们，花费四年的时间为你的国家出谋划策然后再回家，而不是像现在这样成为一个独立的职业。
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