德州总检察长因天价电费账单起诉电网公司
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Texas’ attorney general is suing electricity provider Griddy for passing along massive bills to its customers during last month’s winter storm
德克萨斯州总检察长起诉电力供应商Griddy，称其在上个月冬季暴风雪期间向用户开出了巨额账单。
德克萨斯州总检察长起诉电力供应商Griddy，称其在上个月冬季暴风雪期间向用户开出了巨额账单。
AUSTIN, Texas -- Texas' attorney general said Monday he's suing electricity provider Griddy for passing along massive bills to its customers during last month's winter storm.
德克萨斯州奥斯汀——德克萨斯州总检察长周一表示，他将起诉电力供应商Griddy公司，因其在上个月的冬季暴风雪期间向客户开出巨额账单。
德克萨斯州奥斯汀——德克萨斯州总检察长周一表示，他将起诉电力供应商Griddy公司，因其在上个月的冬季暴风雪期间向客户开出巨额账单。
The lawsuit comes days after Texas' power grid manager effectively shut down Griddy by revoking its access to the state's electricity market.
在该诉讼几天前，德克萨斯州的电网管理人员通过取消Griddy进入州电力市场的资格，让这家公司事实上关门了。
在该诉讼几天前，德克萨斯州的电网管理人员通过取消Griddy进入州电力市场的资格，让这家公司事实上关门了。
Griddy charges $10 a month to give people a way to pay wholesale prices for electricity instead of a fixed rate. But when temperatures plummeted well below freezing last month, wholesale prices spiked and Griddy customers were left with sky-high electricity bills.
Griddy每月收费10美元，让人们可以通过批发电价而不是固定电价来支付电费。但是当上个月气温骤降至冰点以下时，批发价格飙升，电网用户不得不支付天价电费。
Griddy每月收费10美元，让人们可以通过批发电价而不是固定电价来支付电费。但是当上个月气温骤降至冰点以下时，批发价格飙升，电网用户不得不支付天价电费。
“Griddy misled Texans and signed them up for services which, in a time of crisis, resulted in individual Texans each losing thousands of dollars," Attorney General Ken Paxton said in a statement. “As Texans struggled to survive this winter storm, Griddy made the suffering even worse as it debited outrageous amounts each day.”
司法部长肯·帕克斯顿在一份声明中表示:“Griddy公司误导了德克萨斯人，并让他们在危机时刻注册了这项服务，导致每个德克萨斯人损失了数千美元。当德克萨斯人在这场暴风雪中挣扎求生时，Griddy每天都在扣款，这让他们的痛苦更加严重。”
司法部长肯·帕克斯顿在一份声明中表示:“Griddy公司误导了德克萨斯人，并让他们在危机时刻注册了这项服务，导致每个德克萨斯人损失了数千美元。当德克萨斯人在这场暴风雪中挣扎求生时，Griddy每天都在扣款，这让他们的痛苦更加严重。”
The lawsuit accused Griddy of violating the Texas Deceptive Trade Practices Act and seeks refunds for customers. The unusually heavy winter storm blanketed much of Texas with snow, knocking out electricity to 4 million customers and leaving many struggling to find clean water.
该诉讼指控Griddy违反了《德州欺诈贸易行为法》，并要求其给客户退款。这场罕见的暴风雪大雪覆盖了德州大部分地区，导致400万用户断电，而且许多人难以找到干净的水。
该诉讼指控Griddy违反了《德州欺诈贸易行为法》，并要求其给客户退款。这场罕见的暴风雪大雪覆盖了德州大部分地区，导致400万用户断电，而且许多人难以找到干净的水。
Meanwhile, the Electric Reliability Council of Texas, or ERCOT, shifted about 10,000 Griddy customers to other utilities on Friday.
与此同时，德克萨斯州电力可靠性委员会(ERCOT)周五将约1万名电网用户转移到其他公用事业公司。
与此同时，德克萨斯州电力可靠性委员会(ERCOT)周五将约1万名电网用户转移到其他公用事业公司。
Griddy said in a statement that ERCOT “took our members and have effectively shut down Griddy.”
Griddy在一份声明中表示，ERCOT“抢走了我们的会员，让Griddy公司事实上关门了。”
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Griddy在一份声明中表示，ERCOT“抢走了我们的会员，让Griddy公司事实上关门了。”
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“We have always been transparent and customer-centric at every step. We wanted to continue the fight for our members to get relief and that hasn’t changed,” the statement said.
“我们的每个步骤都是透明的和以客户为中心的。我们希望继续为我们的成员争取救济，这一点没有改变，”该声明说。
“我们的每个步骤都是透明的和以客户为中心的。我们希望继续为我们的成员争取救济，这一点没有改变，”该声明说。
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Invincible Summer
Republicans are all about free markets until their failings come to light. Then they attack their own. Republicans are all about no regulation until their failings come to light. Then they will regulate you out of business.
在他们的失败被曝光之前，共和党人一直支持自由市场。然后他们自己自打自脸。共和党人在他们的失败被曝光之前一直主张不实施监管。然后他们会让你破产。
Republicans are all about free markets until their failings come to light. Then they attack their own. Republicans are all about no regulation until their failings come to light. Then they will regulate you out of business.
在他们的失败被曝光之前，共和党人一直支持自由市场。然后他们自己自打自脸。共和党人在他们的失败被曝光之前一直主张不实施监管。然后他们会让你破产。
fifolo Invincible Summer
Yep... they pitch deregulation to their base and now that their base sees the price of this they pass the buck.
是的……他们向其票仓兜售放松管制的想法，现在那些票仓看到了这样做的代价，而他们却推卸责任。
Yep... they pitch deregulation to their base and now that their base sees the price of this they pass the buck.
是的……他们向其票仓兜售放松管制的想法，现在那些票仓看到了这样做的代价，而他们却推卸责任。
Brandon Jones
The state shouldn't interfere because the customers had no issue receiving a cheaper rate with the understanding in times of emergency they could see increases in their bills. I'm interested in knowing if Giddy engaged in deceptive practices, otherwise the customer should be forced to bear the responsibility of their decision.
州政府不应该进行干预，因为客户可以看到飙升的账单，能够从中了解到当时的危急情况，而且他们可以毫无问题的选择电费较低的供应商。我很想知道Giddy公司是否存在欺骗行为，否则客户应该被迫承担责任，因为那是他们自己的决定。
The state shouldn't interfere because the customers had no issue receiving a cheaper rate with the understanding in times of emergency they could see increases in their bills. I'm interested in knowing if Giddy engaged in deceptive practices, otherwise the customer should be forced to bear the responsibility of their decision.
州政府不应该进行干预，因为客户可以看到飙升的账单，能够从中了解到当时的危急情况，而且他们可以毫无问题的选择电费较低的供应商。我很想知道Giddy公司是否存在欺骗行为，否则客户应该被迫承担责任，因为那是他们自己的决定。
DHGRVA Brandon Jones
I agree but believe the state or some other regulatory agency etc should have mandated that there was an upside limit to how high these bills could go.Leaving it open ended was going to come back to haunt them one way or another.
我同意，但我认为州政府或其他一些监管机构等应该强制规定这类账单的上限。如果放任不管，迟早会以这样或那样的方式给他们带去困扰。
I agree but believe the state or some other regulatory agency etc should have mandated that there was an upside limit to how high these bills could go.Leaving it open ended was going to come back to haunt them one way or another.
我同意，但我认为州政府或其他一些监管机构等应该强制规定这类账单的上限。如果放任不管，迟早会以这样或那样的方式给他们带去困扰。
VonGuertz DHGRVA
There is a maximum limit for kWH on the market. It is $9000.
What is really sad, Griddy advised all their customers to move before the storm to a fixed rate plan. Think many Griddy customers dismissed the warning and stayed. Then several also kept automatic draft payments, when they should have cancelled that.
对于市场上每千瓦时的最高电价是有最高限额的，是9000美元。
真正让人难过的是，Griddy公司曾建议他们所有的客户在暴风雪前转移到固定电价套餐。我想，Griddy公司的许多客户对该警告不屑一顾，并继续采用批发电价套餐。然后，有些人还保留了自动汇票支付，而他们本应取消这种支付方式的。
There is a maximum limit for kWH on the market. It is $9000.
What is really sad, Griddy advised all their customers to move before the storm to a fixed rate plan. Think many Griddy customers dismissed the warning and stayed. Then several also kept automatic draft payments, when they should have cancelled that.
对于市场上每千瓦时的最高电价是有最高限额的，是9000美元。
真正让人难过的是，Griddy公司曾建议他们所有的客户在暴风雪前转移到固定电价套餐。我想，Griddy公司的许多客户对该警告不屑一顾，并继续采用批发电价套餐。然后，有些人还保留了自动汇票支付，而他们本应取消这种支付方式的。
Good Grief VonGuertz
You could not have the cheaper rate unless you were signed up for auto pay. Doesn't give companies the right to price gouge.
除非签署同意自动支付，否则不可能得到比较便宜的电价。我们不应该允许公司进行价格欺诈。
You could not have the cheaper rate unless you were signed up for auto pay. Doesn't give companies the right to price gouge.
除非签署同意自动支付，否则不可能得到比较便宜的电价。我们不应该允许公司进行价格欺诈。
Trench Ant Good Grief
But what utility, anywhere, bills you daily and takes it out of your account daily? Seriously, that is some messed up business practices and seems shady as all get out. On top of that, how are they reading the meters in a snow storm daily to know what the usage is? One of the bigger natural gas suppliers in my region installed the newest gadget to read the meters but even then they have to be in proximity in order to download the data as they drive in the area as it's not a dedicated connection that sends that info to them directly.
但是，哪里的哪家共用事业单位会每天给你发账单，然后每天从你的账户中取钱？说真的，这是一些混乱的商业行为，而且从结果来看似乎可疑。最重要的是，在暴风雪中他们怎么可能每天去抄电表来了解用户的用电情况?在我所在的地区，一家比较大的天然气供应商安装了一些最新的抄表装置，但即使如此，他们也必须开车到附近才能下载数据，因为那并不是专门的线路，不能直接发送信息给他们。
But what utility, anywhere, bills you daily and takes it out of your account daily? Seriously, that is some messed up business practices and seems shady as all get out. On top of that, how are they reading the meters in a snow storm daily to know what the usage is? One of the bigger natural gas suppliers in my region installed the newest gadget to read the meters but even then they have to be in proximity in order to download the data as they drive in the area as it's not a dedicated connection that sends that info to them directly.
但是，哪里的哪家共用事业单位会每天给你发账单，然后每天从你的账户中取钱？说真的，这是一些混乱的商业行为，而且从结果来看似乎可疑。最重要的是，在暴风雪中他们怎么可能每天去抄电表来了解用户的用电情况?在我所在的地区，一家比较大的天然气供应商安装了一些最新的抄表装置，但即使如此，他们也必须开车到附近才能下载数据，因为那并不是专门的线路，不能直接发送信息给他们。
Proud Hollerrat Trench Ant
In my area of EKY the electric meters and the water meters are read by driving by. Have to be in 1K feet of both.
在我居住的艾克区，电表和水表都是开车读取的。二者都必须在1000英尺以内。
In my area of EKY the electric meters and the water meters are read by driving by. Have to be in 1K feet of both.
在我居住的艾克区，电表和水表都是开车读取的。二者都必须在1000英尺以内。
D. B. Cooper Trench Ant
I'm sure they charged daily to avoid the cost of carrying debt on the energy purchases. . Its another strategy that keeps the costs down.
我敢肯定，他们每天收费是为了避免购买能源的债务成本。这是另一个降低成本的策略。
I'm sure they charged daily to avoid the cost of carrying debt on the energy purchases. . Its another strategy that keeps the costs down.
我敢肯定，他们每天收费是为了避免购买能源的债务成本。这是另一个降低成本的策略。
Joe Sunseri Trench Ant
It's GOP approved! Watcha ya gonna do?
共和党都批准了！你又能怎么样？
It's GOP approved! Watcha ya gonna do?
共和党都批准了！你又能怎么样？
Random Commentator VonGuertz
Griddy makes you carry a balance on your account like a savings account and they deduct your bill from that account. They deduct out of that balance daily. Once you reach a certain threshold, they charge your credit card or bank account again.
Griddy让你的账户像储蓄账户一样保持一定余额，然后从这个账户中扣除账单。他们每天从余额中扣除。一旦你达到了一定的阈值，他们就会再次收取你的信用卡或银行账户的费用。
Griddy makes you carry a balance on your account like a savings account and they deduct your bill from that account. They deduct out of that balance daily. Once you reach a certain threshold, they charge your credit card or bank account again.
Griddy让你的账户像储蓄账户一样保持一定余额，然后从这个账户中扣除账单。他们每天从余额中扣除。一旦你达到了一定的阈值，他们就会再次收取你的信用卡或银行账户的费用。
Acountian Good Grief
This is not price gouging. This is the free market that Texan officials opted for. Free market says you can charge the price a market will bear. During the outage, power was scarce, and scarcity drives up the price. So they should change their officials if they don't agree with how the market is run.
这不是哄抬价格。这就是德州官员选择的自由市场。自由市场指的是人们可以按照市场能够承受的价格来收取费用。在停电期间，电力短缺，而短缺推高了价格。因此，如果他们不同意市场的运行方式，就应该更换官员。
This is not price gouging. This is the free market that Texan officials opted for. Free market says you can charge the price a market will bear. During the outage, power was scarce, and scarcity drives up the price. So they should change their officials if they don't agree with how the market is run.
这不是哄抬价格。这就是德州官员选择的自由市场。自由市场指的是人们可以按照市场能够承受的价格来收取费用。在停电期间，电力短缺，而短缺推高了价格。因此，如果他们不同意市场的运行方式，就应该更换官员。
Random Commentator VonGuertz
Griddy customers were not informed of the severity of the price increase until 2:47PM on Saturday. Just for reference, the cutoff for same day transfer of service (if you could find a provider that would do so) is Saturday at 3:00pm. If you missed that 13 minute window, you had to wait until Monday morning.
直到周六下午2点47分，Griddy的客户才被告知价格上涨的严重程度。仅供参考，当日服务转移的截止时间(如果你能找到供应商)是周六下午3点。如果你错过了这13分钟，你就得等到周一早上。
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Griddy customers were not informed of the severity of the price increase until 2:47PM on Saturday. Just for reference, the cutoff for same day transfer of service (if you could find a provider that would do so) is Saturday at 3:00pm. If you missed that 13 minute window, you had to wait until Monday morning.
直到周六下午2点47分，Griddy的客户才被告知价格上涨的严重程度。仅供参考，当日服务转移的截止时间(如果你能找到供应商)是周六下午3点。如果你错过了这13分钟，你就得等到周一早上。
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Joe Morello DHGRVA
Well, the Republicans have pushed the dream of less government for years and they've push the idea of deregulation into the heads of their constituents as a miracle. Now we're seeing the result. They start calling foul when the results are disastrous. This was always going to happen.It was unavoidable in the deregulation con. The Republicans don't want to govern and leave the real decisions to the 'free market' (aka business) and now their citizens can see right on their electricity bill how well that works. It doesn't.
好吧，共和党人多年来一直在推动小政府的梦想，他们已经把放松管制的想法作为一个奇迹推向了选民的头脑中。现在我们看到了结果。当结果是灾难性的时候，他们就开始高喊违规。这种事总是会发生。在解除管制的情况下，这是不可避免的。共和党不想治理，并把真正的决定留给“自由市场”(又名企业)，现在他们的公民可以看看自己的电费账单，就知道它运作的有多好了。并不好。
Well, the Republicans have pushed the dream of less government for years and they've push the idea of deregulation into the heads of their constituents as a miracle. Now we're seeing the result. They start calling foul when the results are disastrous. This was always going to happen.It was unavoidable in the deregulation con. The Republicans don't want to govern and leave the real decisions to the 'free market' (aka business) and now their citizens can see right on their electricity bill how well that works. It doesn't.
好吧，共和党人多年来一直在推动小政府的梦想，他们已经把放松管制的想法作为一个奇迹推向了选民的头脑中。现在我们看到了结果。当结果是灾难性的时候，他们就开始高喊违规。这种事总是会发生。在解除管制的情况下，这是不可避免的。共和党不想治理，并把真正的决定留给“自由市场”(又名企业)，现在他们的公民可以看看自己的电费账单，就知道它运作的有多好了。并不好。
Highly_Amuzed Brandon Jones
What imaginary "cheaper rates" are you referring to? Texas power rates are some of the HIGHEST in the nation!
The real issue here is the glaring FACT that the UNREGULATED utilities blatantly IGNORED multiple warnings in past years that their infrastructure was woefully inadequate and extremely out of date! NONE of their infrastructure had EVER been upgraded to withstand the cold temperatures and winter weather that Texas is well known to encounter! This was recklessly incompetent and caused numerous deaths! Administrators should be fired and criminally indicted!
你说的“便宜价格”是什么意思?德州的电价是全国最高的!
真正的问题是，这些不受监管的公用事业公司在过去几年里公然无视有关其基础设施严重不足和极度过时的警告!他们的基础设施从来没有升级过，无法抵御德州众所周知将会面临的寒冷温度和冬季天气!这是鲁莽的无能，造成了无数的死亡!管理者应该遭到解雇，并受到刑事起诉!
What imaginary "cheaper rates" are you referring to? Texas power rates are some of the HIGHEST in the nation!
The real issue here is the glaring FACT that the UNREGULATED utilities blatantly IGNORED multiple warnings in past years that their infrastructure was woefully inadequate and extremely out of date! NONE of their infrastructure had EVER been upgraded to withstand the cold temperatures and winter weather that Texas is well known to encounter! This was recklessly incompetent and caused numerous deaths! Administrators should be fired and criminally indicted!
你说的“便宜价格”是什么意思?德州的电价是全国最高的!
真正的问题是，这些不受监管的公用事业公司在过去几年里公然无视有关其基础设施严重不足和极度过时的警告!他们的基础设施从来没有升级过，无法抵御德州众所周知将会面临的寒冷温度和冬季天气!这是鲁莽的无能，造成了无数的死亡!管理者应该遭到解雇，并受到刑事起诉!
blahbalhblah Highly_Amuzed
And yet texazz has the audacity to criticize california. The state of texazz is a joke.
然而，德州人却厚颜无耻地批评加州。德州就是个笑话。
And yet texazz has the audacity to criticize california. The state of texazz is a joke.
然而，德州人却厚颜无耻地批评加州。德州就是个笑话。
Proud Hollerrat Highly_Amuzed
At least in KY the Utilities has to go thru the PSC to get an increase in rates.
至少在KY，公用事业公司必须通过PSC才能提高电价。
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At least in KY the Utilities has to go thru the PSC to get an increase in rates.
至少在KY，公用事业公司必须通过PSC才能提高电价。
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IT-Worker-Since-1990 Brandon Jones
The State of Texas DOES have price gouging laws. They are in effect from the time the Governor declares an emergency. The energy companies and their natural gas suppliers raised their rates beyond what is considered customary under the law. This is why the AG is suing.
德克萨斯州确实有哄抬物价的法律。从州长宣布进入紧急状态开始生效。能源公司及其天然气供应商提高了价格，超出了法律规定的惯例。这就是检察长起诉的原因。
The State of Texas DOES have price gouging laws. They are in effect from the time the Governor declares an emergency. The energy companies and their natural gas suppliers raised their rates beyond what is considered customary under the law. This is why the AG is suing.
德克萨斯州确实有哄抬物价的法律。从州长宣布进入紧急状态开始生效。能源公司及其天然气供应商提高了价格，超出了法律规定的惯例。这就是检察长起诉的原因。
Random Commentator Brandon Jones
"otherwise the customer should be forced to bear the responsibility of their decision"
So, you want them to go bankrupt for trying to stay warm?
“否则，客户将被迫为他们的决定承担责任”
你想让他们因为取暖而破产吗?
"otherwise the customer should be forced to bear the responsibility of their decision"
So, you want them to go bankrupt for trying to stay warm?
“否则，客户将被迫为他们的决定承担责任”
你想让他们因为取暖而破产吗?
WorkingClass
"Deregulate," they said. "You'll save money," they said. Nobody likes government regulation until the lack of it bites them in the behind. But, then, the company name could be read as "Greedy" so what did they expect?
“解除监管,”他们说。“可以让你省钱，”他们说。没有人喜欢政府监管，直到缺乏监管给他们带来痛苦。但是，既然知道这家公司的名字可以读成“贪婪”（Griddy-Greedy谐音梗），他们还想要什么自行车呢?
"Deregulate," they said. "You'll save money," they said. Nobody likes government regulation until the lack of it bites them in the behind. But, then, the company name could be read as "Greedy" so what did they expect?
“解除监管,”他们说。“可以让你省钱，”他们说。没有人喜欢政府监管，直到缺乏监管给他们带来痛苦。但是，既然知道这家公司的名字可以读成“贪婪”（Griddy-Greedy谐音梗），他们还想要什么自行车呢?
Good Grief WorkingClass
Yup. When Ronnie deregulated trucking, a relative's small company was forced out of business. When Ronnie deregulated the phone companies, I was promised a lower bill and it tripled the next month. Who was it that opened up China because they wanted a market for cheap labor? Nixon Now they try to blame it all on windmills and the democrats. Typical greedy gop.
是的。当罗尼解除对卡车运输的管制后，他一个亲戚的小公司被迫倒闭了。罗尼解除了对电话公司的管制，他向我承诺账单会降低，结果下个月账单增加了两倍。是谁因为想要得到一个廉价劳动力的市场而向中国开放门户?现在他们试图把这一切都归咎于风车和民主党人。典型的贪婪的共和党。
Yup. When Ronnie deregulated trucking, a relative's small company was forced out of business. When Ronnie deregulated the phone companies, I was promised a lower bill and it tripled the next month. Who was it that opened up China because they wanted a market for cheap labor? Nixon Now they try to blame it all on windmills and the democrats. Typical greedy gop.
是的。当罗尼解除对卡车运输的管制后，他一个亲戚的小公司被迫倒闭了。罗尼解除了对电话公司的管制，他向我承诺账单会降低，结果下个月账单增加了两倍。是谁因为想要得到一个廉价劳动力的市场而向中国开放门户?现在他们试图把这一切都归咎于风车和民主党人。典型的贪婪的共和党。
Terry Stearns Good Grief
Actually it was Carter that signed the deregulation bill, July first of 1980, six and a half months before Ronny Ray-Gun took office.
实际上，是卡特在1980年7月1日签署了解除管制法案，这是在罗尼·激光枪（Ray-Gun/Regan里根，谐音梗）上任的六个半月前。
Actually it was Carter that signed the deregulation bill, July first of 1980, six and a half months before Ronny Ray-Gun took office.
实际上，是卡特在1980年7月1日签署了解除管制法案，这是在罗尼·激光枪（Ray-Gun/Regan里根，谐音梗）上任的六个半月前。
Joe Sunseri Terry Stearns
Nixon open the doors to China trade. Of course no one was complaining when 27" color TVs went down to $400 once they came from China, while the USA's Magnavox eventually closed its factories in the USA. But the upcoming WalMart shoppers were elated.
尼克松打开了对华贸易的大门。当从中国进口的27英寸彩电只要400美元时，当然没有人抱怨，而美国米罗华公司（美国电视机生产商）最终关闭了在美国的工厂。但即将到来的沃尔玛购物者却喜气洋洋。
Nixon open the doors to China trade. Of course no one was complaining when 27" color TVs went down to $400 once they came from China, while the USA's Magnavox eventually closed its factories in the USA. But the upcoming WalMart shoppers were elated.
尼克松打开了对华贸易的大门。当从中国进口的27英寸彩电只要400美元时，当然没有人抱怨，而美国米罗华公司（美国电视机生产商）最终关闭了在美国的工厂。但即将到来的沃尔玛购物者却喜气洋洋。
Good Grief Terry Stearns
Sure and Ron stopped it right? lol
当然，是罗恩阻止的，不是吗？lol
Sure and Ron stopped it right? lol
当然，是罗恩阻止的，不是吗？lol
Joe Sunseri Good Grief
Actually, Nixon opened up China trade, but I am sure it took a few years for it to really grow.
事实上，是尼克松开放了对华贸易，但我相信这需要几年的时间才能真正发展起来。
Actually, Nixon opened up China trade, but I am sure it took a few years for it to really grow.
事实上，是尼克松开放了对华贸易，但我相信这需要几年的时间才能真正发展起来。
Good Grief Joe Sunseri
Same gop.
又是共和党。
Same gop.
又是共和党。
Papaw Hagemeyer
This kinda stuff has happened before in other areas. That is why regulations are in place.
Huh?
这种事情以前在其他地区也发生过。这就是为什么要制定相关法规。
嗯?
This kinda stuff has happened before in other areas. That is why regulations are in place.
Huh?
这种事情以前在其他地区也发生过。这就是为什么要制定相关法规。
嗯?
bobwire
This was classic bait and switch pricing. The price per kW should never exceed cost plus a fair profit margin. Is there anyone that believes these utilities were that much for the power that was on the grid?
这是典型的引诱和转换定价。每千瓦的价格绝不应超过成本加上合理的利润率。有没有人相信这些公用事业公司为电网提供了那么多的电力?
This was classic bait and switch pricing. The price per kW should never exceed cost plus a fair profit margin. Is there anyone that believes these utilities were that much for the power that was on the grid?
这是典型的引诱和转换定价。每千瓦的价格绝不应超过成本加上合理的利润率。有没有人相信这些公用事业公司为电网提供了那么多的电力?
30AE bobwire
Griddy, and others, are simply brokers of electricity They are not utilities or producers of electricity.
Customers buying direct from the producer did not (yet) see an increase in their bill.
Griddy和其他公司只是电力分销商，并不是公用事业公司或电力生产商。
那些直接从生产商那里购买的消费者(还)没有看到自己的账单增加了。
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Griddy, and others, are simply brokers of electricity They are not utilities or producers of electricity.
Customers buying direct from the producer did not (yet) see an increase in their bill.
Griddy和其他公司只是电力分销商，并不是公用事业公司或电力生产商。
那些直接从生产商那里购买的消费者(还)没有看到自己的账单增加了。
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GW bobwire
It sounds like Griddy offered a pretty good way to get the best price on power. For $10/month you get power at the wholesale rate and for most people that would save money. With that kind of deal you don't need any fine print to know if wholesale rates skyrocket so will your bill. I feel for the people who got $7,000 electric bills but that was the deal you signed and if you don't like it you should have signed a fixed rate plan.
听起来，Griddy提供了一个很好的办法，让客户获得最好的电力价格。每月只需10美元，就能以批发价获得电力，对大多数人来说，这可以省钱。有了这种交易，你不需要看任何细则，就能知道批发价格是否飙升了，因为你的账单也会随之飙升。我很同情那些收到7000美元电费账单的人，但那是他们自己签的协议，如果不喜欢，他们就应该签一个固定费率的电费套餐。
It sounds like Griddy offered a pretty good way to get the best price on power. For $10/month you get power at the wholesale rate and for most people that would save money. With that kind of deal you don't need any fine print to know if wholesale rates skyrocket so will your bill. I feel for the people who got $7,000 electric bills but that was the deal you signed and if you don't like it you should have signed a fixed rate plan.
听起来，Griddy提供了一个很好的办法，让客户获得最好的电力价格。每月只需10美元，就能以批发价获得电力，对大多数人来说，这可以省钱。有了这种交易，你不需要看任何细则，就能知道批发价格是否飙升了，因为你的账单也会随之飙升。我很同情那些收到7000美元电费账单的人，但那是他们自己签的协议，如果不喜欢，他们就应该签一个固定费率的电费套餐。
Keverick
If there was no deception on the part of Giddy, it's on the customer. It's their responsibility to know what they're liable for and we shouldn't need government to do that for us. If Giddy turns out to have been a bad player, have them make restitution and fine them out of existence so it won't happen so easily next time.
如果Giddy没有欺骗，那就是客户自己的责任了。他们有责任知道他们应该为什么负责，我们不应该需要政府为我们做这些事情。如果Giddy最终证明是一个糟糕的商户，让他们进行赔偿，并对他们罚款，这样下次就不会这么容易发生了。
If there was no deception on the part of Giddy, it's on the customer. It's their responsibility to know what they're liable for and we shouldn't need government to do that for us. If Giddy turns out to have been a bad player, have them make restitution and fine them out of existence so it won't happen so easily next time.
如果Giddy没有欺骗，那就是客户自己的责任了。他们有责任知道他们应该为什么负责，我们不应该需要政府为我们做这些事情。如果Giddy最终证明是一个糟糕的商户，让他们进行赔偿，并对他们罚款，这样下次就不会这么容易发生了。
Joe Sunseri Keverick
What is going to happen is the Texas GOP controlled government is going to bail out Giddy and over a period of years the citizens of Texas will pay for the bailout. Just like 2008.
接下来会发生的事情是，德州共和党控制的政府将救助Giddy公司，在一段时间内，德州的公民将为这次救助买单。就像2008年一样。
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What is going to happen is the Texas GOP controlled government is going to bail out Giddy and over a period of years the citizens of Texas will pay for the bailout. Just like 2008.
接下来会发生的事情是，德州共和党控制的政府将救助Giddy公司，在一段时间内，德州的公民将为这次救助买单。就像2008年一样。
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JuPMod
Least the people of El Paso do not have to deal with black outs, huge power bills, etc., given thankfully they are connected to an out-of-state grid, not the Texan grid.
幸好埃尔帕索的连接的是州外电网，而不是德州电网，至少那里的居民不必面对停电、巨额电费等问题。
Least the people of El Paso do not have to deal with black outs, huge power bills, etc., given thankfully they are connected to an out-of-state grid, not the Texan grid.
幸好埃尔帕索的连接的是州外电网，而不是德州电网，至少那里的居民不必面对停电、巨额电费等问题。
Tigersnack
nomal bills around $200-$300 a month have been billed $7000 to $10,000 dollars for a month.
Billionaires, including Jerry Jones, were raking consumers over the coals
通常每月电费在200- 300美元左右，这一次却高达账单是7000-10000美元。
包括杰里·琼斯在内的亿万富翁们，正在为发电用烧掉的煤炭盘剥消费者。
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nomal bills around $200-$300 a month have been billed $7000 to $10,000 dollars for a month.
Billionaires, including Jerry Jones, were raking consumers over the coals
通常每月电费在200- 300美元左右，这一次却高达账单是7000-10000美元。
包括杰里·琼斯在内的亿万富翁们，正在为发电用烧掉的煤炭盘剥消费者。
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So Isaidtogod
Third world Texas looking for something to blame other then self.
第三世界的德克萨斯想要责备别人而不是自己。
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Third world Texas looking for something to blame other then self.
第三世界的德克萨斯想要责备别人而不是自己。
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tck62
Perhaps the "free market" and lack of government regulation is not all that it's cracked up to be?
也许“自由市场”和缺乏政府监管并不像人们吹捧的那样好吧?
Perhaps the "free market" and lack of government regulation is not all that it's cracked up to be?
也许“自由市场”和缺乏政府监管并不像人们吹捧的那样好吧?
Gonzo tck62
Open, free markets have never been the answer for essential services that are reliant on less than three competitors, or are reliant upon infrastructure acquired via condemnation.
对于依赖于不到三个竞争对手的基本服务，或者依赖于通过谴责获得的基础设施的基本服务，开放、自由的市场从来都不是解决之道。
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Open, free markets have never been the answer for essential services that are reliant on less than three competitors, or are reliant upon infrastructure acquired via condemnation.
对于依赖于不到三个竞争对手的基本服务，或者依赖于通过谴责获得的基础设施的基本服务，开放、自由的市场从来都不是解决之道。
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WesternIowan
That's the Texas attorney general under investigation for being a criminal? How appalling.
就是那个正在接受刑事调查的德州总检察长吗?太吓人了吧。
That's the Texas attorney general under investigation for being a criminal? How appalling.
就是那个正在接受刑事调查的德州总检察长吗?太吓人了吧。
Lurker111
Oooooh. The Texas AG now cares about the people? Be still, my heart.
哇。德州总检察长现在关心人民了?我的心古井无波。
Oooooh. The Texas AG now cares about the people? Be still, my heart.
哇。德州总检察长现在关心人民了?我的心古井无波。
Jeanne Washington
This is all for SHOW, they knew exactly what would happen, if for some reason there was an issue with the power, but this is what happens when you gamble on something. No one could have predicted the snow storm, but the utility company pricing is CLEAR.
这都是作秀，他们知道电力如果因为某种原因出了问题，会发生什么结果，但这就是他们在某件事上赌博的后果。没有人能预测到暴风雪，但公用事业公司的定价是明确的。
This is all for SHOW, they knew exactly what would happen, if for some reason there was an issue with the power, but this is what happens when you gamble on something. No one could have predicted the snow storm, but the utility company pricing is CLEAR.
这都是作秀，他们知道电力如果因为某种原因出了问题，会发生什么结果，但这就是他们在某件事上赌博的后果。没有人能预测到暴风雪，但公用事业公司的定价是明确的。
Highly_Amuzed Jeanne Washington
EVERYONE predicted just such a storm years ago! EVERYONE who knows anything about weather trends, weather history and weather cycles KNEW this would happen, just as it will happen again in a few more years!
Anyone who did not "know" this, was simply denying facts and reality or LYING!
多年前每个人都预测会发生这样一场风暴!每个了解天气趋势、天气历史和天气周期的人都知道将要发生这次风暴，就像它将在几年后再次发生一样!
任何不“知道”这一点的人，都是在否认事实和事实，或者是在撒谎!
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EVERYONE predicted just such a storm years ago! EVERYONE who knows anything about weather trends, weather history and weather cycles KNEW this would happen, just as it will happen again in a few more years!
Anyone who did not "know" this, was simply denying facts and reality or LYING!
多年前每个人都预测会发生这样一场风暴!每个了解天气趋势、天气历史和天气周期的人都知道将要发生这次风暴，就像它将在几年后再次发生一样!
任何不“知道”这一点的人，都是在否认事实和事实，或者是在撒谎!
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Bluejay
Texas did this to themselves by not having proper regulations for their power grid.
"deregulate" bit them in the bum.
德州之所以这样做，是因为没有对其电网进行适当的监管。
“放松管制”让他们痛不欲生。
Texas did this to themselves by not having proper regulations for their power grid.
"deregulate" bit them in the bum.
德州之所以这样做，是因为没有对其电网进行适当的监管。
“放松管制”让他们痛不欲生。
Bluejay
Mexico stated that there was no way they would take Texas back, but they did like Cruz's vacation dollars!
墨西哥说他们不可能把德克萨斯夺回来，但他们确实喜欢克鲁兹度假的钱!
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Mexico stated that there was no way they would take Texas back, but they did like Cruz's vacation dollars!
墨西哥说他们不可能把德克萨斯夺回来，但他们确实喜欢克鲁兹度假的钱!
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Roger
How can Griddy be blamed? They were GIVEN these bills from the wholesalers. Then per their agreement with the customers they charged the customers the same price. As per their contract. Why does Griddy have to eat the cost?
怎么能指责Griddy公司呢?这些账单是他们从批发商那里拿到的。然后根据他们与客户的协议，他们向客户收取相同的价格。这是合同规定的。为什么Griddy要承担成本?
How can Griddy be blamed? They were GIVEN these bills from the wholesalers. Then per their agreement with the customers they charged the customers the same price. As per their contract. Why does Griddy have to eat the cost?
怎么能指责Griddy公司呢?这些账单是他们从批发商那里拿到的。然后根据他们与客户的协议，他们向客户收取相同的价格。这是合同规定的。为什么Griddy要承担成本?
daveb1971 Roger
Did you expect the politicians in Texas to actually take responsibility themselves for this mess?
你以为德州的政客们会为这个烂摊子承担责任吗?
Did you expect the politicians in Texas to actually take responsibility themselves for this mess?
你以为德州的政客们会为这个烂摊子承担责任吗?
Roger daveb1971
No. As I live here and froze for several days. The entire system failed. From natural gas wellheads to power plants, to the electrical distribution and the management there of. The Texas politicians sought a quick scapegoat on green energy which was complete and total nonsense.
不。因为我住在这里，挨了好几天冻。整个系统失灵了。从天然气井到发电厂，再到电力分配和管理。德州的政客们很快就在绿色能源问题上找了个替罪羊，但那完全是一派胡言。
No. As I live here and froze for several days. The entire system failed. From natural gas wellheads to power plants, to the electrical distribution and the management there of. The Texas politicians sought a quick scapegoat on green energy which was complete and total nonsense.
不。因为我住在这里，挨了好几天冻。整个系统失灵了。从天然气井到发电厂，再到电力分配和管理。德州的政客们很快就在绿色能源问题上找了个替罪羊，但那完全是一派胡言。
JR2020
I saw some dude interviewed the other day and he said he had received a residential bill for $16,000. The interviewer asked what he planned to do about it, and he said he had already paid it?
What kind of power company do they have down in Texas that would cause them to send a bill for $16,000?
前几天我看到一个人接受采访，他说他收到了一份16000美元的住户电费账单。采访者问他打算怎么做，他说他已经付了钱?
德州竟然有这样的电力公司，会给用户寄16000美元的账单?
I saw some dude interviewed the other day and he said he had received a residential bill for $16,000. The interviewer asked what he planned to do about it, and he said he had already paid it?
What kind of power company do they have down in Texas that would cause them to send a bill for $16,000?
前几天我看到一个人接受采访，他说他收到了一份16000美元的住户电费账单。采访者问他打算怎么做，他说他已经付了钱?
德州竟然有这样的电力公司，会给用户寄16000美元的账单?
Roger JR2020
Its a wholesale market that exponentially climbed as the power plants went off line. It doesn't make much sense. But its not the power companies or the retail sellers like Griddy that made the money.
随着发电厂的关闭，电价批发市场呈指数级增长。这没有多大意义。但赚钱的并不是电力公司或Griddy这样的零售商家。
Its a wholesale market that exponentially climbed as the power plants went off line. It doesn't make much sense. But its not the power companies or the retail sellers like Griddy that made the money.
随着发电厂的关闭，电价批发市场呈指数级增长。这没有多大意义。但赚钱的并不是电力公司或Griddy这样的零售商家。
Mando JR2020
He'd already paid it because those companies require automatic debiting of checking/savings accounts, and he got his bill after the fact.
他已经付过了，是因为那些公司要求支票/储蓄账户自动扣款，他在事后才会拿到账单。
He'd already paid it because those companies require automatic debiting of checking/savings accounts, and he got his bill after the fact.
他已经付过了，是因为那些公司要求支票/储蓄账户自动扣款，他在事后才会拿到账单。
bb1040 JR2020
I saw that same story and he had auto pay, they took it right out of his bank account, before he even knew it. Wiped out his checking account and took some out of his retirement account to cover it. $16,000 , considering my electric bill each month, it would take me 15 years to spend that much on electricity.
我也看到了这件事，他设置了自动支付，所以他们直接从他的银行账户里把钱取走了，但他还不知道。他们把他支票账户里的钱都取光了，还从他的退休账户里取了一些钱，才把这个账单还完。1万6千美元，按我每月的电费计算，我得花15年才能花这么多钱。
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I saw that same story and he had auto pay, they took it right out of his bank account, before he even knew it. Wiped out his checking account and took some out of his retirement account to cover it. $16,000 , considering my electric bill each month, it would take me 15 years to spend that much on electricity.
我也看到了这件事，他设置了自动支付，所以他们直接从他的银行账户里把钱取走了，但他还不知道。他们把他支票账户里的钱都取光了，还从他的退休账户里取了一些钱，才把这个账单还完。1万6千美元，按我每月的电费计算，我得花15年才能花这么多钱。
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baznyankee JR2020
And hard to say what his expenses would have been had he lost his power and his home froze up. Griddy will need to show they were squeaky clean with their billing IMO.
如果他停了电，家里又上了冻，很难说他会付出什么代价。在我看来，Griddy公司需要证明他们的账单是干净的。
And hard to say what his expenses would have been had he lost his power and his home froze up. Griddy will need to show they were squeaky clean with their billing IMO.
如果他停了电，家里又上了冻，很难说他会付出什么代价。在我看来，Griddy公司需要证明他们的账单是干净的。
bb1040
Sounds like the wholesaler was the one who was price gouging during an emergency. Some of those folks got those huge bills and they didn't even have any electricity during that time.
听起来好像是批发商在紧急情况下哄抬价格。有些人收到了巨额账单，而且那段时间他们甚至没有来电。
Sounds like the wholesaler was the one who was price gouging during an emergency. Some of those folks got those huge bills and they didn't even have any electricity during that time.
听起来好像是批发商在紧急情况下哄抬价格。有些人收到了巨额账单，而且那段时间他们甚至没有来电。
SarcasTex bb1040
The natural gas companies, providing gas to run the turbines, were also doing a little price gouging. That's why the wholesale electric providers increased their prices so much.
为涡轮机提供天然气的天然气公司也进行了一些价格欺诈。这就是批发电商大幅涨价的原因。
The natural gas companies, providing gas to run the turbines, were also doing a little price gouging. That's why the wholesale electric providers increased their prices so much.
为涡轮机提供天然气的天然气公司也进行了一些价格欺诈。这就是批发电商大幅涨价的原因。
Gonzo
The majority of the electorate in Texas wanted politicians who would eliminate regulations, because let's face it, that's what freedom is all about - doing whatever you want with your business. Rules be damned, right? So now they don't want that?
Would that be best described as fickle, or just plain ole short-sighted and ignorant?.
德克萨斯的大多数选民想要的是那些会取消监管的政客，因为让我们面对现实吧，这就是自由的全部——想做什么就做什么。规则见鬼去吧?所以现在他们不想要了?
这是善变的最好描述，还是简单的目光短浅和无知?
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The majority of the electorate in Texas wanted politicians who would eliminate regulations, because let's face it, that's what freedom is all about - doing whatever you want with your business. Rules be damned, right? So now they don't want that?
Would that be best described as fickle, or just plain ole short-sighted and ignorant?.
德克萨斯的大多数选民想要的是那些会取消监管的政客，因为让我们面对现实吧，这就是自由的全部——想做什么就做什么。规则见鬼去吧?所以现在他们不想要了?
这是善变的最好描述，还是简单的目光短浅和无知?
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Talis Briedis Gonzo
I nominate short-sighted and ignorant.
我觉得是目光短浅和无知。
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I nominate short-sighted and ignorant.
我觉得是目光短浅和无知。
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Bluejay
Texas - where the cattle are smarter than the elected officials.
This is what happens when you deregulate everything.
德克萨斯州——那里的牛比当选的官员更聪明。
这就是放松管制的后果。
Texas - where the cattle are smarter than the elected officials.
This is what happens when you deregulate everything.
德克萨斯州——那里的牛比当选的官员更聪明。
这就是放松管制的后果。
Talis Briedis Bluejay
Exactly! It is not like Griddy did anything wrong or lied. But the State allowed this outrageous practice. It is the State's fault! But look who is running it, the bunch that cares for companies and not people. This AG is just doing a stunt for PR. And switching people's service provider without due process is the communist way also.
完全正确!Griddy公司又没做错什么，也没撒谎。但是该州允许这种无耻的行为。这是州政府的错!但看看是谁在管理这个州，他们关心的是公司而不是人。这个总检察长只是在为公关搞噱头。在没有正当程序的情况下更换大家的服务提供商也是共产主义的做法。
Exactly! It is not like Griddy did anything wrong or lied. But the State allowed this outrageous practice. It is the State's fault! But look who is running it, the bunch that cares for companies and not people. This AG is just doing a stunt for PR. And switching people's service provider without due process is the communist way also.
完全正确!Griddy公司又没做错什么，也没撒谎。但是该州允许这种无耻的行为。这是州政府的错!但看看是谁在管理这个州，他们关心的是公司而不是人。这个总检察长只是在为公关搞噱头。在没有正当程序的情况下更换大家的服务提供商也是共产主义的做法。
SarcasTex Bluejay
When you give corporations enough rope, they will insist on hanging themselves with it, and take as many of us with them that they can. It's the same thing we saw in 2007-2009 with the banking and home loan industry.
当你给了企业足够多的绳子，他们会坚持用那些绳子吊死自己，并尽可能多的让大家跟他们一起死。这跟2007-2009年银行和住房贷款行业的情况是一样的。
When you give corporations enough rope, they will insist on hanging themselves with it, and take as many of us with them that they can. It's the same thing we saw in 2007-2009 with the banking and home loan industry.
当你给了企业足够多的绳子，他们会坚持用那些绳子吊死自己，并尽可能多的让大家跟他们一起死。这跟2007-2009年银行和住房贷款行业的情况是一样的。
Felix
Its not fair to blame the customers for signing up with Griddy. Why? Because how in the world would anyone expect a historic 100 plus year winter storm to hit Texas and its power grid for 4 days.
指责客户，说他们与Griddy签约了，这是不公平的。为什么?因为谁想得到呢？一场百年一遇的历史性冬季风暴会袭击德克萨斯州及其电网长达4天。
Its not fair to blame the customers for signing up with Griddy. Why? Because how in the world would anyone expect a historic 100 plus year winter storm to hit Texas and its power grid for 4 days.
指责客户，说他们与Griddy签约了，这是不公平的。为什么?因为谁想得到呢？一场百年一遇的历史性冬季风暴会袭击德克萨斯州及其电网长达4天。
Roger Felix
Griddy passed along the costs they were being charged. Per contract. Why should they eat it?
Griddy公司只不过将别人向他们收取的费用转嫁出去。按合同行事。他们为什么要自己负担那些成本呢?
Griddy passed along the costs they were being charged. Per contract. Why should they eat it?
Griddy公司只不过将别人向他们收取的费用转嫁出去。按合同行事。他们为什么要自己负担那些成本呢?
bb1040 Roger
The wholesale supplier was price gouging during an emergency, those prices are totally ridiculous, and a lot of those people didn't even have electricity for the period they were billed for.
批发供应商在紧急情况下哄抬价格，这些价格是完全荒谬的，许多人的账单收费期内甚至没有来电。
The wholesale supplier was price gouging during an emergency, those prices are totally ridiculous, and a lot of those people didn't even have electricity for the period they were billed for.
批发供应商在紧急情况下哄抬价格，这些价格是完全荒谬的，许多人的账单收费期内甚至没有来电。
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