历史上最有影响力的人
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So I'm reading Michael Hart's famous book "The 100", a ranking of the 100 most influential people in history. His top 10:
我正在看迈克尔·哈特的著名著作《人类史上最有影响的百位人物排名》，他排的前十名是：
So I'm reading Michael Hart's famous book "The 100", a ranking of the 100 most influential people in history. His top 10:
我正在看迈克尔·哈特的著名著作《人类史上最有影响的百位人物排名》，他排的前十名是：
1 Muhammad 2 Isaac Newton 3 Jesus 4 Buddha 5 Confucius 6 St Paul 7 Tsai Lun 8 Gutenberg 9 Columbus 10 Einstein
1、穆罕默德 2、艾萨克·牛顿 3、耶稣 4、佛祖 5、孔子 6、圣保罗 7、蔡伦 8、古腾堡 9、哥伦布 10、爱因斯坦
1、穆罕默德 2、艾萨克·牛顿 3、耶稣 4、佛祖 5、孔子 6、圣保罗 7、蔡伦 8、古腾堡 9、哥伦布 10、爱因斯坦
I dont have much issue with his top 10, maybe a few adjustments. But the book overall is ridiculous.
我对他排的前10名没什么意见，最多是一些位置调整。但这本书在总体上是荒谬的。
我对他排的前10名没什么意见，最多是一些位置调整。但这本书在总体上是荒谬的。
He included Beethoven - but left out Brahamagupta, who was the first person to use 0 as a mathematical concept, whose works spread to the Arabs and the rest of the world, the basis of modern mathematics.
作者纳入了贝多芬，却没有提到Brahamagupta，他是第一个将0作为数学概念的人，他的作品传播到阿拉伯和世界各地，这是现代数学的基础。
作者纳入了贝多芬，却没有提到Brahamagupta，他是第一个将0作为数学概念的人，他的作品传播到阿拉伯和世界各地，这是现代数学的基础。
He puts Shakespeare in the book (and above Napoleon) but leaves out Muhammad Atalla, who invented the Mosfet , the basis of modern electronics.
作者纳入了莎士比亚（排名比拿破仑要前），却没有提到穆罕默德·阿塔拉，他发明了MOSFET【金属-氧化物半导体场效应晶体管】，这是现代电子技术的基础。
作者纳入了莎士比亚（排名比拿破仑要前），却没有提到穆罕默德·阿塔拉，他发明了MOSFET【金属-氧化物半导体场效应晶体管】，这是现代电子技术的基础。
He put Michaelangelo in the book, but left out Fritz Harber, without whose fermentation process the world's population would have stayed at 2 billion.
作者纳入了米开朗基洛，却没有提到弗里茨·哈伯【德国物理化学家、合成氨的发明者】，没有他的发酵工艺，世界人口最多保持在20亿。
作者纳入了米开朗基洛，却没有提到弗里茨·哈伯【德国物理化学家、合成氨的发明者】，没有他的发酵工艺，世界人口最多保持在20亿。
He also could not find a place for Gavrilo Princip - the guy who turned the world upside down, or Tim Berners Lee, though when he made the book theres no way he could have seen the impact of the WWW and a modern printing press.
作者也没有给加夫里洛·普林西普【萨拉热窝事件的刺客】留位置，这家伙把世界都弄翻了。以及蒂姆·伯纳斯·李【万维网的发明者】，虽然当作者写这本书时，他无法预见万维网和现代印刷机的影响。
作者也没有给加夫里洛·普林西普【萨拉热窝事件的刺客】留位置，这家伙把世界都弄翻了。以及蒂姆·伯纳斯·李【万维网的发明者】，虽然当作者写这本书时，他无法预见万维网和现代印刷机的影响。
My top 10. This most likely reflects my own ignorance of other people than anything else. But I'll give my Number 1 and then in no particular order:
我自己排了前10名。这很可能反映了我自己的无知，但我会排出第一名，剩下的排名不分先后。
我自己排了前10名。这很可能反映了我自己的无知，但我会排出第一名，剩下的排名不分先后。
1 Muhammad Gavrilo Princip Napoleon Tsai Lun BrahmaGupta Columbus Jesus Einstein Fritz Harber Tim Berners Lee
1、穆罕默德 加夫里洛·普林西普 拿破仑 蔡伦 BrahmaGupta 哥伦布 耶稣 爱因斯坦 弗里茨·哈伯 蒂姆·伯纳斯·李
1、穆罕默德 加夫里洛·普林西普 拿破仑 蔡伦 BrahmaGupta 哥伦布 耶稣 爱因斯坦 弗里茨·哈伯 蒂姆·伯纳斯·李
I put Muhammad as number 1 for the same reason as Hart. He had the most impact in the most number of fields than anyone else in history
我把穆罕默德排到第一，理由和作者一样。他在众多领域的影响力超过了历史上所有人。
我把穆罕默德排到第一，理由和作者一样。他在众多领域的影响力超过了历史上所有人。
1 He was a law giver (Shariah law being 1 of the worlds 3 major legal systems with civil and common law) 2 He was a founder of a major religion (islam) 3 He had economic principles (shariah banking is a £2 trillion industry) 4 He was a successful military commander that conquered a large area (Arabia). The military historian Richard Gabriel makes this point- hes the only military commander people are still dying for. Noone is dying for Alexander the Great etc.
1、他是一部法律的奠基者（伊斯兰教法是世界三大法系之一，拥有民法和普通法）
2、他是一个主要宗教（伊斯兰教）的创始人
3、他有经济理念（伊斯兰银行是一个2万亿英镑的产业）
4、他是一位成功的军事指挥官，征服了一大片地区（阿拉伯）。军事历史学家理查德·加布里埃尔指出：他是唯一一个人们至今仍为之而死的军事指挥官。如今没人会为亚历山大大帝而死了。
1、他是一部法律的奠基者（伊斯兰教法是世界三大法系之一，拥有民法和普通法）
2、他是一个主要宗教（伊斯兰教）的创始人
3、他有经济理念（伊斯兰银行是一个2万亿英镑的产业）
4、他是一位成功的军事指挥官，征服了一大片地区（阿拉伯）。军事历史学家理查德·加布里埃尔指出：他是唯一一个人们至今仍为之而死的军事指挥官。如今没人会为亚历山大大帝而死了。
Ghengis Khan was 1 and 2, Karl Marx was 3, Napoleon was 1 and 2, Jesus was 2, Ceasar was 4,1 and 3 (his law on interest not exceeding the original amount which is still used) . Einstein and other inventors impacted the world in a way Muhammad never did (science), but even then, they're still out outumbered 4-1.
成吉思汗符合第1和第2点，卡尔·马克思符合第3点，拿破仑符合第1和第2点，耶稣符合第2点，恺撒符合第1、3、4点（他的利息法规定不超过原始金额，目前仍在使用）。爱因斯坦和其他发明家以一种穆罕默德从未做过的方式(科学)影响世界，但即便如此，他们仍然以4比1的劣势落后。
成吉思汗符合第1和第2点，卡尔·马克思符合第3点，拿破仑符合第1和第2点，耶稣符合第2点，恺撒符合第1、3、4点（他的利息法规定不超过原始金额，目前仍在使用）。爱因斯坦和其他发明家以一种穆罕默德从未做过的方式(科学)影响世界，但即便如此，他们仍然以4比1的劣势落后。
I'm not t saying this is definitive, but does anyone else have their own top 10?
我并不是说这是绝对的，各位有自己的前十名吗？
我并不是说这是绝对的，各位有自己的前十名吗？
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TAS-Throwaway
He put Michaelangelo in the book, but left out Fritz Harber, without whose fermentation process the world's population would have stayed at 2 billion.
That's a red flag. When the figures who obscurely prevent billions of deaths are left out, the book veers into pop-history.
Norman Borlaug absolutely should be on this list too, a top 10 IMO.
10 Einstein
No way. Not to take away from Einstein, but other physicists were getting close to his discoveries too. However, Euler should be in the top 10 IMO and Gauss should be in the top 100- their theories were more revolutionary for the time period they lived in where as Einstein's would have been cracked within 10 years of his life, tops. Newton is properly placed IMO.
One more slight nitpick, St. Paul should be above Jesus.
“作者纳入了米开朗基洛，却没有……”
这是个预警。当那些默默无闻地阻止了数十亿人死亡的人物被遗漏时，这本书就成了野史。
在我看来，诺曼·博洛格【美国农业科学家、植物病理学家、遗传育种专家】绝对也应该在这个名单上，排前十名。
“10、爱因斯坦”
不同意。我并不是要把爱因斯坦排除，但其他物理学家的成就也接近他的发现。然而，在我看来，欧拉应该在前10名，高斯应该在前100名，他们的理论在他们所处的时代更具革命性，而爱因斯坦的理论在他还活着的10年里就被打破了。我觉得牛顿的位置很合适。
还有一点小瑕疵，圣保罗应该在耶稣之上。
He put Michaelangelo in the book, but left out Fritz Harber, without whose fermentation process the world's population would have stayed at 2 billion.
That's a red flag. When the figures who obscurely prevent billions of deaths are left out, the book veers into pop-history.
Norman Borlaug absolutely should be on this list too, a top 10 IMO.
10 Einstein
No way. Not to take away from Einstein, but other physicists were getting close to his discoveries too. However, Euler should be in the top 10 IMO and Gauss should be in the top 100- their theories were more revolutionary for the time period they lived in where as Einstein's would have been cracked within 10 years of his life, tops. Newton is properly placed IMO.
One more slight nitpick, St. Paul should be above Jesus.
“作者纳入了米开朗基洛，却没有……”
这是个预警。当那些默默无闻地阻止了数十亿人死亡的人物被遗漏时，这本书就成了野史。
在我看来，诺曼·博洛格【美国农业科学家、植物病理学家、遗传育种专家】绝对也应该在这个名单上，排前十名。
“10、爱因斯坦”
不同意。我并不是要把爱因斯坦排除，但其他物理学家的成就也接近他的发现。然而，在我看来，欧拉应该在前10名，高斯应该在前100名，他们的理论在他们所处的时代更具革命性，而爱因斯坦的理论在他还活着的10年里就被打破了。我觉得牛顿的位置很合适。
还有一点小瑕疵，圣保罗应该在耶稣之上。
TheGreatOneSea
You can't really rank people as just "influential": there's too many diffrent circumstances over too wide a time.
Like, do we credit George Washington with everything the US has done simply because he was so heavily involved in how the US started? Do we really count the famous scientists, while ignoring the obscure ones that made their discoveries possible?
Any list just seems too arbitrary.
你无法根据“影响力”切实的将人物排名：在漫长的时间里，有太多不同的情况。
比如，我们能否仅仅因为乔治华盛顿深入的参与了美国的建立，就把美国所做的一切归功于他？我们真的要算上那些著名的科学家，而忽略那些使他们的发现成为可能的、默默无闻的人吗？
任何排名都显得太武断了。
You can't really rank people as just "influential": there's too many diffrent circumstances over too wide a time.
Like, do we credit George Washington with everything the US has done simply because he was so heavily involved in how the US started? Do we really count the famous scientists, while ignoring the obscure ones that made their discoveries possible?
Any list just seems too arbitrary.
你无法根据“影响力”切实的将人物排名：在漫长的时间里，有太多不同的情况。
比如，我们能否仅仅因为乔治华盛顿深入的参与了美国的建立，就把美国所做的一切归功于他？我们真的要算上那些著名的科学家，而忽略那些使他们的发现成为可能的、默默无闻的人吗？
任何排名都显得太武断了。
bigdon802
Well, I'd take out Princip. If I had to choose anyone from that event, it would probably be Ferdinand. He was the most important actor in that moment, even if his act was dying.
I'd also remove Columbus, since someone would have done it eventually. Probably pretty soon.
And I'd remove Napoleon, as the events that lead to his rise to power were arguably more world shattering than his incredible career.
我会排除普林西普。如果我必须从那次事件中选一个人，那可能是费迪南德。他是那一刻最重要的演员，哪怕他的戏即将结束。
我还会删除哥伦布，因为最终会有人这么做的，可能还很快。
还有删除拿破仑，因为导致他上台的事件，比他那不可思议的生涯对世界造成的影响还要大。
Well, I'd take out Princip. If I had to choose anyone from that event, it would probably be Ferdinand. He was the most important actor in that moment, even if his act was dying.
I'd also remove Columbus, since someone would have done it eventually. Probably pretty soon.
And I'd remove Napoleon, as the events that lead to his rise to power were arguably more world shattering than his incredible career.
我会排除普林西普。如果我必须从那次事件中选一个人，那可能是费迪南德。他是那一刻最重要的演员，哪怕他的戏即将结束。
我还会删除哥伦布，因为最终会有人这么做的，可能还很快。
还有删除拿破仑，因为导致他上台的事件，比他那不可思议的生涯对世界造成的影响还要大。
Tsaibatsu
I'd also remove Columbus, since someone would have done it eventually. Probably pretty soon.
wait why
“我还会删除哥伦布……”
等等，为什么？
I'd also remove Columbus, since someone would have done it eventually. Probably pretty soon.
wait why
“我还会删除哥伦布……”
等等，为什么？
bigdon802
Because if you remove his existence, history doesn't significantly change. Instruments and vessels were getting better and navigators were getting more daring. It was going to happen. If the first settlers cross in 1527 instead you'd still have a very similar outcome. Especially if Spain just paid a different guy to do it.
因为如果你删除他的存在，历史也不会发生重大改变。仪器和船只在变得越来越好，航海者也变得越来越勇敢。这是必然会发生的事。如果第一批人等到1527年再航行，结果还是差不多的。如果西班牙付钱让另一个人去做的话尤其如此。
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Because if you remove his existence, history doesn't significantly change. Instruments and vessels were getting better and navigators were getting more daring. It was going to happen. If the first settlers cross in 1527 instead you'd still have a very similar outcome. Especially if Spain just paid a different guy to do it.
因为如果你删除他的存在，历史也不会发生重大改变。仪器和船只在变得越来越好，航海者也变得越来越勇敢。这是必然会发生的事。如果第一批人等到1527年再航行，结果还是差不多的。如果西班牙付钱让另一个人去做的话尤其如此。
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Indiana_Jawnz
Only not at all, there is no guarantee it would have been discovered reasonably soon or by the Spanish.
A difference of 30 years and a different national makes all the difference in the historical impact.
If the date of discovery was in 1545 by a Dutch navigator landing in Cuba, followed by Spain staking claim in New York in 1560 would completely alter the way North and South America developed.
改变一点也不小，你无法保证它会很快被发现，或者是由西班牙人发现。
30年的差别和发现国家的差别，会让历史的影响面目全非。
如果发现的日期是1545年，一名荷兰航海者登陆古巴，接着1560年西班牙在纽约宣称主权，就会彻底改变南北美洲的发展道路。
Only not at all, there is no guarantee it would have been discovered reasonably soon or by the Spanish.
A difference of 30 years and a different national makes all the difference in the historical impact.
If the date of discovery was in 1545 by a Dutch navigator landing in Cuba, followed by Spain staking claim in New York in 1560 would completely alter the way North and South America developed.
改变一点也不小，你无法保证它会很快被发现，或者是由西班牙人发现。
30年的差别和发现国家的差别，会让历史的影响面目全非。
如果发现的日期是1545年，一名荷兰航海者登陆古巴，接着1560年西班牙在纽约宣称主权，就会彻底改变南北美洲的发展道路。
shantipole
World War 1 was just round N+1 of the endless European wars that have been going on for centuries. The nameless guy (Princip) who killed a semi-major nobleman (Ferdinand) whose death caused another couple of guys to stumble into a war (Kaiser Wilhelm, Tsar Nicholas, etc) really doesn't deserve the #2 spot.
第一次世界大战不过是几个世纪以来欧洲无休止战争中的第N+1轮罢了。一个无名小卒(普林西普)杀死了一个不那么重要的贵族（费迪南德），后者的死导致另外两个家伙陷入战争(威廉二世，沙皇尼古拉斯)，这样的人确实没有资格排第二名。
World War 1 was just round N+1 of the endless European wars that have been going on for centuries. The nameless guy (Princip) who killed a semi-major nobleman (Ferdinand) whose death caused another couple of guys to stumble into a war (Kaiser Wilhelm, Tsar Nicholas, etc) really doesn't deserve the #2 spot.
第一次世界大战不过是几个世纪以来欧洲无休止战争中的第N+1轮罢了。一个无名小卒(普林西普)杀死了一个不那么重要的贵族（费迪南德），后者的死导致另外两个家伙陷入战争(威廉二世，沙皇尼古拉斯)，这样的人确实没有资格排第二名。
TheFaendal
This is an interesting post. Thanks for sharing. However, I would take issue with the idea that how many categories a person can fall into determines how influential they are in world history. If a person is influential in only 1 or 2 categories, they can still have theoretically influenced the world more than anyone else.
Regarding the founder of Christianity, whoever it is (I argue it is Jesus, but substitute Paul if you wish) is at least #2 If not #1 most influential. The religion’s impact on the Roman Empire culturally, politically, socially, militarily, and on and on was immense. As a result, the religion became the largest in the world.
While the world’s future does not seem to be set for as much religious influence as our past, the fact remains that religion altered the human experience up to this point more than anything else.
这是个有趣的帖子。感谢分享。然而，对于把一个人划分成多少个类别来判断他在历史上有多少影响力这种观点，我是不认同的。一个人只在1或2个类别里有影响力，但在理论上，他们对世界的影响力仍然可能比所有人都大。
关于基督教的创立者，不管他是谁(我认为是耶稣，但如果你愿意，也可以认为是圣保罗），他的影响力至少排在第二位。宗教对罗马帝国的文化、政治、社会、军事等方面的影响是巨大的。因此，宗教是世界上影响力最大的。
虽然世界的未来受到宗教的影响不会像过去那样大了，但事实不可否认，到目前为止，宗教对人类经验造成的影响比其他东西都要大。
This is an interesting post. Thanks for sharing. However, I would take issue with the idea that how many categories a person can fall into determines how influential they are in world history. If a person is influential in only 1 or 2 categories, they can still have theoretically influenced the world more than anyone else.
Regarding the founder of Christianity, whoever it is (I argue it is Jesus, but substitute Paul if you wish) is at least #2 If not #1 most influential. The religion’s impact on the Roman Empire culturally, politically, socially, militarily, and on and on was immense. As a result, the religion became the largest in the world.
While the world’s future does not seem to be set for as much religious influence as our past, the fact remains that religion altered the human experience up to this point more than anything else.
这是个有趣的帖子。感谢分享。然而，对于把一个人划分成多少个类别来判断他在历史上有多少影响力这种观点，我是不认同的。一个人只在1或2个类别里有影响力，但在理论上，他们对世界的影响力仍然可能比所有人都大。
关于基督教的创立者，不管他是谁(我认为是耶稣，但如果你愿意，也可以认为是圣保罗），他的影响力至少排在第二位。宗教对罗马帝国的文化、政治、社会、军事等方面的影响是巨大的。因此，宗教是世界上影响力最大的。
虽然世界的未来受到宗教的影响不会像过去那样大了，但事实不可否认，到目前为止，宗教对人类经验造成的影响比其他东西都要大。
TitanCrius
I guess it all depends how you define influential. I'd argue that the top figures on the list ought to be the founding figures of all the world's various religions because a lot of history has been set in motion, at least partially, due to religious influence. So many wars have been fought in the name of one religion or another, such as the Crusades to the Holy Land. So many empires have grown out of efforts to spread various religions, such as Muhammad's Caliphate. Religions have influenced so much of daily life, such as the existence of a weekend starting out as the Babylonians designating one day in every seven as time to spend worshipping the gods (or the Jewish sabbath, if you prefer to think of that idea as the original, the exact origin is unclear) as well as countless traditions around food, clothing, lifetime milestones and so on.
我认为这完全取决于你如何定义影响力。在我看来，名单上排第一的人物应该是各种宗教的创始人，因为很多历史都是由宗教的影响引发的，至少部分是这样。有很多战争是在各种各样宗教名义下爆发的，比如十字军东征。有很多帝国是在努力传播各种宗教之下发展起来的，比如穆罕默德的哈里发。宗教对日常生活的影响非常大，比如巴比伦人每七天就指定周末后的第一天作为祭拜神的日子，以及无数关于食物、衣服、人生里程碑等的传统。
I guess it all depends how you define influential. I'd argue that the top figures on the list ought to be the founding figures of all the world's various religions because a lot of history has been set in motion, at least partially, due to religious influence. So many wars have been fought in the name of one religion or another, such as the Crusades to the Holy Land. So many empires have grown out of efforts to spread various religions, such as Muhammad's Caliphate. Religions have influenced so much of daily life, such as the existence of a weekend starting out as the Babylonians designating one day in every seven as time to spend worshipping the gods (or the Jewish sabbath, if you prefer to think of that idea as the original, the exact origin is unclear) as well as countless traditions around food, clothing, lifetime milestones and so on.
我认为这完全取决于你如何定义影响力。在我看来，名单上排第一的人物应该是各种宗教的创始人，因为很多历史都是由宗教的影响引发的，至少部分是这样。有很多战争是在各种各样宗教名义下爆发的，比如十字军东征。有很多帝国是在努力传播各种宗教之下发展起来的，比如穆罕默德的哈里发。宗教对日常生活的影响非常大，比如巴比伦人每七天就指定周末后的第一天作为祭拜神的日子，以及无数关于食物、衣服、人生里程碑等的传统。
sitquiet-donothing
Influence is the key word. Did the person create an ideology? Religious reformers and founders, philosophers, and movement style politicians are the first rung, then folks who laid the path for a discipline like Newton, Freud, or Harvey, and either just above or below this tier the artists who laid out the rules sets like Beethoven, Raphael, and Montaigne. The thing is that they have to have a movement, ideology, or process that is taken as an assumption to be considered influential. So many important people don't have this and people get confused.
关键词是影响力。是创造了一种意识形态的人？是把宗教改革家和创始人、哲学家和运动派政治家排做第一梯队，然后是为牛顿、弗洛伊德或哈维等为学科铺平道路的人，再之后是如贝多芬、拉斐尔和蒙泰涅这样制定规则的艺术家？问题是，他们必须有一场运动、意识形态或过程，来让他们成为有影响力的人。有很多重要的人物都没有这些，所以会让大家感到困惑。
Influence is the key word. Did the person create an ideology? Religious reformers and founders, philosophers, and movement style politicians are the first rung, then folks who laid the path for a discipline like Newton, Freud, or Harvey, and either just above or below this tier the artists who laid out the rules sets like Beethoven, Raphael, and Montaigne. The thing is that they have to have a movement, ideology, or process that is taken as an assumption to be considered influential. So many important people don't have this and people get confused.
关键词是影响力。是创造了一种意识形态的人？是把宗教改革家和创始人、哲学家和运动派政治家排做第一梯队，然后是为牛顿、弗洛伊德或哈维等为学科铺平道路的人，再之后是如贝多芬、拉斐尔和蒙泰涅这样制定规则的艺术家？问题是，他们必须有一场运动、意识形态或过程，来让他们成为有影响力的人。有很多重要的人物都没有这些，所以会让大家感到困惑。
sitquiet-donothing
As far as the rankings go, "influence" is a tough one to nail down. But I don't hear many people before now saying anything like "Thank goodness for Brahmagupta and that 0!" While definitely important, influence isn't there. Influence is a purely psychological situation, IMO. It requires someone to acknowledge it for it to mean anything. Therefore, someone like Muhammad who is mentioned for all sorts of undertakings is influential, while someone who prevents calamity but is unknown as a reason for action is not influential, that does not diminish their importance one bit. It does however mean that they are not influential. I have read the book, IMO it suffers from a lack of translated sources and skews heavily western, however when someone like Beethoven, these days, is being reproduced the best by Chinese musicians, I can understand why.
想要给“影响力”排名是很难的。但在以前，我没听过有什么人说“感谢Brahmagupta和他的0！”。虽然这非常重要，但影响力并不大。在我看来，影响力是一种纯粹的心理状态，它需要有人承认才有意义。因此，像穆罕默德这样因各种事业而被提及的人是有影响力的，而那些阻止了灾祸却不为人知的人是没有影响力的，但这丝毫也没有降低他们的重要性，然而，这确实意味着他们没有影响力。这本书我看过，在我看来，它缺乏翻译来源，严重偏向西方，然而，当贝多芬这样的人被中国音乐家复现得最像时，我知道理由了。
As far as the rankings go, "influence" is a tough one to nail down. But I don't hear many people before now saying anything like "Thank goodness for Brahmagupta and that 0!" While definitely important, influence isn't there. Influence is a purely psychological situation, IMO. It requires someone to acknowledge it for it to mean anything. Therefore, someone like Muhammad who is mentioned for all sorts of undertakings is influential, while someone who prevents calamity but is unknown as a reason for action is not influential, that does not diminish their importance one bit. It does however mean that they are not influential. I have read the book, IMO it suffers from a lack of translated sources and skews heavily western, however when someone like Beethoven, these days, is being reproduced the best by Chinese musicians, I can understand why.
想要给“影响力”排名是很难的。但在以前，我没听过有什么人说“感谢Brahmagupta和他的0！”。虽然这非常重要，但影响力并不大。在我看来，影响力是一种纯粹的心理状态，它需要有人承认才有意义。因此，像穆罕默德这样因各种事业而被提及的人是有影响力的，而那些阻止了灾祸却不为人知的人是没有影响力的，但这丝毫也没有降低他们的重要性，然而，这确实意味着他们没有影响力。这本书我看过，在我看来，它缺乏翻译来源，严重偏向西方，然而，当贝多芬这样的人被中国音乐家复现得最像时，我知道理由了。
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