莫里森超市成为英国第一家停止销售塑料购物袋的超市
正文翻译
(The move is being implemented to help reduce plastic waste.)
（此举旨在帮助减少塑料垃圾。）
Morrisons Becomes First UK Supermarket To Stop Selling Plastic Carrier Bags In Shops
莫里森超市成为英国第一家停止销售塑料购物袋的超市
莫里森超市成为英国第一家停止销售塑料购物袋的超市
(The move is being implemented to help reduce plastic waste.)
（此举旨在帮助减少塑料垃圾。）
Morrisons has today announced it will become the first UK supermarket to completely get rid of plastic carrier bags, taking a further step to encourage shoppers to bring their own reusable bags instead.
莫里森超市今天宣布，它将成为英国第一家完全废弃塑料购物袋的超市，进一步鼓励购物者使用自己的可重复使用的购物袋。
莫里森超市今天宣布，它将成为英国第一家完全废弃塑料购物袋的超市，进一步鼓励购物者使用自己的可重复使用的购物袋。
The grocer has said that customers will be offered reusable paper bags instead of plastic ones, if they don't have their own.
这家杂货商表示，如果顾客没有可重复使用的纸袋，他们将提供可重复使用的纸袋，而不是塑料袋。
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这家杂货商表示，如果顾客没有可重复使用的纸袋，他们将提供可重复使用的纸袋，而不是塑料袋。
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The supermarket trialled using paper bags in eight of its stores across the country recently, and now is making it permanent.
该超市最近在全国8家门店试用了纸袋，现在正在实行永久性使用。
该超市最近在全国8家门店试用了纸袋，现在正在实行永久性使用。
And its predicted to save 3,200 tonnes of plastic every year. Incredible!
预计每年将减少3200吨塑料。难以置信！
预计每年将减少3200吨塑料。难以置信！
The move comes three years after single-use plastic bags were removed from its 497 UK shops.
三年前，该公司在英国的497家商店撤下了一次性塑料袋。
三年前，该公司在英国的497家商店撤下了一次性塑料袋。
The removal of the plastic 'bags for life' from Morrisons stores will be phased, and will begin in Scotland this month.
莫里森超市将逐步取消“终生塑料袋”，本月将在苏格兰开始。
莫里森超市将逐步取消“终生塑料袋”，本月将在苏格兰开始。
It will then be rolled out in England and Wales over the course of the next year, Morrisons has said.
莫里森超市表示，接下来的一年中，它将在英格兰和威尔士推广。
莫里森超市表示，接下来的一年中，它将在英格兰和威尔士推广。
The supermarket added that the policy will see the removal almost 100 million plastic bags in total.
该超市补充说，这项政策将使总计近1亿个塑料袋被取消。
该超市补充说，这项政策将使总计近1亿个塑料袋被取消。
Paper bags will cost 30p and be available alongside other reusable options including string, jute, cotton and reusable woven bags, priced between 75p and £2.50.
纸袋售价30便士，与其他可重复使用的购物袋一起出售，包括细绳袋、黄麻袋、棉布袋和可重复使用的编织袋，价格在75便士至2.50英镑之间。
纸袋售价30便士，与其他可重复使用的购物袋一起出售，包括细绳袋、黄麻袋、棉布袋和可重复使用的编织袋，价格在75便士至2.50英镑之间。
Alternatively, customers will be able to bring their own carrier bags.
另外，顾客也可以自己携带购物袋。
另外，顾客也可以自己携带购物袋。
Plus, customers who do their orders online, via morrisons.com will also receive their delivery without any plastic bags at all, should it have been packed in a Morrisons store.
此外，通过morrisons.com在网上下单的顾客也不会收到任何塑料袋，如果包裹是在莫里森商店打包的的话。
此外，通过morrisons.com在网上下单的顾客也不会收到任何塑料袋，如果包裹是在莫里森商店打包的的话。
Single use 5p shopping bags were removed from Morrisons in 2018, but the stronger and thicker bags for life were still on sale, and will remain so until this initiative is rolled out in your local.
一次性5便士购物袋早在2018年就从莫里森超市下架了，但更结实、更厚的生活用购物袋仍在销售，而且会一直持续到这一举措在你的当地推广为止。
一次性5便士购物袋早在2018年就从莫里森超市下架了，但更结实、更厚的生活用购物袋仍在销售，而且会一直持续到这一举措在你的当地推广为止。
The supermarket increased the of price of the bags to 50p back in December 2020, but the removal of the bags is a step further.
该超市早在2020年12月就将塑料袋的价格提高到了50便士，但取消塑料袋的做法又更进了一步。
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该超市早在2020年12月就将塑料袋的价格提高到了50便士，但取消塑料袋的做法又更进了一步。
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Morrisons removed single use bags back in 2017, and thanks to this new move, are set to meet their 50 per cent plastic reduction target by 2025.
莫里森超市早在2017年就取消了一次性塑料袋，多亏了这一新举措，他们有望在2025年实现塑料减少50%的目标。
莫里森超市早在2017年就取消了一次性塑料袋，多亏了这一新举措，他们有望在2025年实现塑料减少50%的目标。
David Potts, chief executive of Morrisons, said of the plans: "We have been listening hard to our customers over the past year and we know that they are passionate about doing their bit to keep plastics out of the environment.
莫里森超市首席执行官大卫·波茨谈到这项计划时说：“过去一年里，我们一直在认真倾听客户的意见，我们知道他们热衷于为使塑料远离环境尽一份力。”
莫里森超市首席执行官大卫·波茨谈到这项计划时说：“过去一年里，我们一直在认真倾听客户的意见，我们知道他们热衷于为使塑料远离环境尽一份力。”
"Removing all of the plastic bags from our supermarkets is a significant milestone in our sustainability programme."
“取消超市所有的塑料袋是我们可持续发展计划的一个重要里程碑。”
“取消超市所有的塑料袋是我们可持续发展计划的一个重要里程碑。”
What a great initiative. Here's hoping other supermarkets follow suit.
这是多么伟大的创举啊。希望其他超市也能效仿。
这是多么伟大的创举啊。希望其他超市也能效仿。
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Ok-Cauliflower-7760
Meanwhile all the groceries are still covered in unnecessary plastic . I buy loose fruit and vegetables wherever I can.
与此同时，所有的食品杂货仍然覆盖着不必要的塑料膜。我在任何能买到的地方都只买（不包膜的）散装的水果和蔬菜。
Meanwhile all the groceries are still covered in unnecessary plastic . I buy loose fruit and vegetables wherever I can.
与此同时，所有的食品杂货仍然覆盖着不必要的塑料膜。我在任何能买到的地方都只买（不包膜的）散装的水果和蔬菜。
AttendeDomine
I used to work at a Morrisons. Not just the plastic on the produce (which sometimes is justified) but you should see the amount of plastic on the pallets that arrived every day.
One day out of sheer curiosity I decided to look into the records, and saw that we had a larger amount of plastic going out as bales from warehouse pallets than were being used by customer shopping bags.
If they genuinely want change, stop companies using plastic in the first place, and only then look to stop the lowest volume of use: carrier bags.
我以前在莫里森超市工作。不仅是产品上的塑料（有时是合理的），你还应该看到每天到货的货盘上的塑料数量。
有一天，纯粹出于好奇，我决定查看一下记录，发现我们从仓库货盘上打包的塑料用量大于被顾客使用的购物袋。
如果他们真的想要改变，首先应该禁止公司使用塑料，然后再考虑停止最低用量的使用：购物手提袋。
I used to work at a Morrisons. Not just the plastic on the produce (which sometimes is justified) but you should see the amount of plastic on the pallets that arrived every day.
One day out of sheer curiosity I decided to look into the records, and saw that we had a larger amount of plastic going out as bales from warehouse pallets than were being used by customer shopping bags.
If they genuinely want change, stop companies using plastic in the first place, and only then look to stop the lowest volume of use: carrier bags.
我以前在莫里森超市工作。不仅是产品上的塑料（有时是合理的），你还应该看到每天到货的货盘上的塑料数量。
有一天，纯粹出于好奇，我决定查看一下记录，发现我们从仓库货盘上打包的塑料用量大于被顾客使用的购物袋。
如果他们真的想要改变，首先应该禁止公司使用塑料，然后再考虑停止最低用量的使用：购物手提袋。
dribblekiwiiiiii
I also used to work at Morrison’s and it’s true the sheer amount of waste every day was shocking. My stores did recycle a lot and used a bailer to compact the cardboard and plastic but more needed to be done. I understand the need to wrap the pallets for shipping until they get to the store however there must be an alternative to cellophane at this point. I worked in the Bakery and most of the bread comes pre made in boxes with several non recyclable bags inside, as well as the piping bags and such that we used easily 200 of a day. Whilst I know this was for health and safety cross contamination etc it is possible to use reusable equipment where possible which needs to be increased massively. From my small department alone we created around 40 bags of waste a day.
I also don’t think products like cereal need a cardboard box and plastic bag containing the product. Many alternatives could be used, an example is the paper bags now offered at the fruit and vegetable section. They could implement cardboard boxes for the pizzas created fresh from the Pizza Counter instead of the Saran Wrap etc.
我也曾在莫里森超市工作过，每天浪费的数量的确令人震惊。我所在的商店确实回收了很多，并使用一个水斗来压缩纸板和塑料，但更多的是需要做的。我理解在货盘到达商店之前需要包装，但是在这一点上必须有替代玻璃纸的替代品。我在面包店工作，大部分的面包都是预先装在盒子里的，里面有几个不可回收的袋子，还有裱花袋之类的，我们一天可以轻松地使用200个。虽然我知道这是为了健康和安全交叉污染等等，但在可能需要大量增加的地方使用可重复使用的设备是可能的。仅在我的小部门，我们每天就生产大约40袋垃圾。
我也不认为像麦片这样的产品需要一个纸板箱和塑料袋来装产品。可以使用许多替代品，水果和蔬菜区现在提供的纸袋就是一个例子。他们可以用纸板箱包装从披萨柜台买来的新鲜披萨，而不是用保鲜膜来包装。
I also used to work at Morrison’s and it’s true the sheer amount of waste every day was shocking. My stores did recycle a lot and used a bailer to compact the cardboard and plastic but more needed to be done. I understand the need to wrap the pallets for shipping until they get to the store however there must be an alternative to cellophane at this point. I worked in the Bakery and most of the bread comes pre made in boxes with several non recyclable bags inside, as well as the piping bags and such that we used easily 200 of a day. Whilst I know this was for health and safety cross contamination etc it is possible to use reusable equipment where possible which needs to be increased massively. From my small department alone we created around 40 bags of waste a day.
I also don’t think products like cereal need a cardboard box and plastic bag containing the product. Many alternatives could be used, an example is the paper bags now offered at the fruit and vegetable section. They could implement cardboard boxes for the pizzas created fresh from the Pizza Counter instead of the Saran Wrap etc.
我也曾在莫里森超市工作过，每天浪费的数量的确令人震惊。我所在的商店确实回收了很多，并使用一个水斗来压缩纸板和塑料，但更多的是需要做的。我理解在货盘到达商店之前需要包装，但是在这一点上必须有替代玻璃纸的替代品。我在面包店工作，大部分的面包都是预先装在盒子里的，里面有几个不可回收的袋子，还有裱花袋之类的，我们一天可以轻松地使用200个。虽然我知道这是为了健康和安全交叉污染等等，但在可能需要大量增加的地方使用可重复使用的设备是可能的。仅在我的小部门，我们每天就生产大约40袋垃圾。
我也不认为像麦片这样的产品需要一个纸板箱和塑料袋来装产品。可以使用许多替代品，水果和蔬菜区现在提供的纸袋就是一个例子。他们可以用纸板箱包装从披萨柜台买来的新鲜披萨，而不是用保鲜膜来包装。
UnsafestSpace
I don’t get the pallet thing, I used to stack shelves at Waitrose and never saw a single pallet my entire time there.
All the goods came from regional distribution centres, calculated need based on some “just-in-time” software, straight off the lorries in cages which would be wheeled directly onto the shop floor and stacked onto shelves. The back warehouse would be empty by the end of the night shift and anything left over was viewed as a management failure… If it wasn’t on the shelves for the customers to buy it wasn’t making us our bonuses.
Empty cages would be wheeled back into the warehouse and left next to the lorry park bays to be sent back on empty lorries, to be used again and again thousands of times.
This wasn’t a low footfall / turnover store either, it was one of the biggest most profitable and busy Waitrose in the country.
I’m guessing Morissions doesn’t have the distribution infrastructure to have centralised warehouses and dumps pallets of stock direct from the manufactures on the poor stores causing a nightmare back of house and leaving a lot of waste.
我不明白货盘的事情，我曾经在维特罗斯超市排货架，在我的整个工作期间，从来没有在那里看到一个货盘。
所有的货物都来自区域配送中心，根据一些“准时制”软件计算出的需求，直接从装在笼子里的货车上运到车间，然后堆放在货架上。后面的仓库在夜班结束时就会空掉，出现任何剩下的东西就会被认为是管理上的失误……如果这些东西不在货架上供顾客购买，那就不能成为我们的销售提成。
空笼子会被运回仓库，放在货车停车场旁边，然后用空卡车运回，这样反复使用成千上万次。
这也不是一个低客流量和营业额的商店，它是美国最大的盈利的和繁忙的维特罗斯超市之一。
我猜莫里森没有配送基础设施，没有集中的仓库，所以直接从生产商那里倾倒货盘到糟糕的商店里，造成了一场噩梦，造成了大量的浪费。
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I don’t get the pallet thing, I used to stack shelves at Waitrose and never saw a single pallet my entire time there.
All the goods came from regional distribution centres, calculated need based on some “just-in-time” software, straight off the lorries in cages which would be wheeled directly onto the shop floor and stacked onto shelves. The back warehouse would be empty by the end of the night shift and anything left over was viewed as a management failure… If it wasn’t on the shelves for the customers to buy it wasn’t making us our bonuses.
Empty cages would be wheeled back into the warehouse and left next to the lorry park bays to be sent back on empty lorries, to be used again and again thousands of times.
This wasn’t a low footfall / turnover store either, it was one of the biggest most profitable and busy Waitrose in the country.
I’m guessing Morissions doesn’t have the distribution infrastructure to have centralised warehouses and dumps pallets of stock direct from the manufactures on the poor stores causing a nightmare back of house and leaving a lot of waste.
我不明白货盘的事情，我曾经在维特罗斯超市排货架，在我的整个工作期间，从来没有在那里看到一个货盘。
所有的货物都来自区域配送中心，根据一些“准时制”软件计算出的需求，直接从装在笼子里的货车上运到车间，然后堆放在货架上。后面的仓库在夜班结束时就会空掉，出现任何剩下的东西就会被认为是管理上的失误……如果这些东西不在货架上供顾客购买，那就不能成为我们的销售提成。
空笼子会被运回仓库，放在货车停车场旁边，然后用空卡车运回，这样反复使用成千上万次。
这也不是一个低客流量和营业额的商店，它是美国最大的盈利的和繁忙的维特罗斯超市之一。
我猜莫里森没有配送基础设施，没有集中的仓库，所以直接从生产商那里倾倒货盘到糟糕的商店里，造成了一场噩梦，造成了大量的浪费。
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redshirted
There not pallets direct from the supplier, they are mixed pallets of stock still from the internal logistics service
没有直接来自供应商的货盘，它们是来自内部物流服务的混合货盘
There not pallets direct from the supplier, they are mixed pallets of stock still from the internal logistics service
没有直接来自供应商的货盘，它们是来自内部物流服务的混合货盘
UnsafestSpace
Why aren't they using cages like every other supermarket then?
Makes no sense to unpack pallets from the manufacturer at some regional distribution warehouse (which would be chilled), and then repack them including plastic wrapping, for the short hop to the supermarket, to then be unpacked again onto trolley for shelf stocking.
It's even worse than I thought before, not just one set of plastic pallet waste but two sets.
那他们为什么不像其他超市那样使用笼子呢？
在一些（冷藏的）区域分销仓库从制造商那里拆下货盘，然后重新包装，包括塑料包装，以到达超市，然后再拆装到手推车上进行上架操作，这是没有意义的。
比我想象的还要糟糕，这不是一套塑料货盘垃圾，而是两套。
Why aren't they using cages like every other supermarket then?
Makes no sense to unpack pallets from the manufacturer at some regional distribution warehouse (which would be chilled), and then repack them including plastic wrapping, for the short hop to the supermarket, to then be unpacked again onto trolley for shelf stocking.
It's even worse than I thought before, not just one set of plastic pallet waste but two sets.
那他们为什么不像其他超市那样使用笼子呢？
在一些（冷藏的）区域分销仓库从制造商那里拆下货盘，然后重新包装，包括塑料包装，以到达超市，然后再拆装到手推车上进行上架操作，这是没有意义的。
比我想象的还要糟糕，这不是一套塑料货盘垃圾，而是两套。
SashaSemin28European unx
Toilet paper, alcohol, nappies, cereal etc, anything that is bulky it has to come on a pallet.
Chilled and Frozen always come in on cages. Home and Leisure, cigarettes, beauty items all come in containers that get returned to the distribution centres.
It’s not every single item a supermarket receives that comes on a pallet.
卫生纸、酒精、尿布、麦片等等，任何体积庞大的东西都必须放在货盘上。
冷藏的和冷冻的东西总是放在笼子里。家庭和休闲、香烟、美容用品都是装在容器里的，然后被送回配送中心。
并不是超市收到的每一件商品都在货盘上。
Toilet paper, alcohol, nappies, cereal etc, anything that is bulky it has to come on a pallet.
Chilled and Frozen always come in on cages. Home and Leisure, cigarettes, beauty items all come in containers that get returned to the distribution centres.
It’s not every single item a supermarket receives that comes on a pallet.
卫生纸、酒精、尿布、麦片等等，任何体积庞大的东西都必须放在货盘上。
冷藏的和冷冻的东西总是放在笼子里。家庭和休闲、香烟、美容用品都是装在容器里的，然后被送回配送中心。
并不是超市收到的每一件商品都在货盘上。
munkijunk
But still everything wrapped in single use plastic. Would absolutely love to instead see standardized, reusable containers becoming the norm and having a drop of point in the shop where you could drop off your old ones for reuse. Recycling is literally the last thing we should be doing when it comes to sustainability. The benefits for transport, storage, and cost saving to manufacturers would be an added bonus.
I'd also love to see taxes on plastic packaging and polluters, the revenue of which ringfenced to give financial breaks to companies using more sustainable methods so those products are cheaper than the environmentally damaging ones on the shelf. Force the market to change. Manufacturers would find the solutions of there's an economic imperative to do so.
但所有的东西还是用一次性塑料包装的。我绝对希望看到标准化的、可重复使用的容器成为一种规范，并且在商店中有一个点，你可以把旧的包装容器丢弃以供重复使用。说到可持续性，回收是我们最不应该做的事情。对制造商来说，它在运输、储存和节省成本方面的好处将是一个额外的奖励。
我也希望看到对塑料包装和污染者征税，这部分收入会给使用更可持续方法的公司提供资金上的优惠，使这些可重复包装的产品比货架上那些破坏环境的产品更便宜。迫使市场做出改变。制造商会找到解决方案的，因为这样做是有经济必要性的。
But still everything wrapped in single use plastic. Would absolutely love to instead see standardized, reusable containers becoming the norm and having a drop of point in the shop where you could drop off your old ones for reuse. Recycling is literally the last thing we should be doing when it comes to sustainability. The benefits for transport, storage, and cost saving to manufacturers would be an added bonus.
I'd also love to see taxes on plastic packaging and polluters, the revenue of which ringfenced to give financial breaks to companies using more sustainable methods so those products are cheaper than the environmentally damaging ones on the shelf. Force the market to change. Manufacturers would find the solutions of there's an economic imperative to do so.
但所有的东西还是用一次性塑料包装的。我绝对希望看到标准化的、可重复使用的容器成为一种规范，并且在商店中有一个点，你可以把旧的包装容器丢弃以供重复使用。说到可持续性，回收是我们最不应该做的事情。对制造商来说，它在运输、储存和节省成本方面的好处将是一个额外的奖励。
我也希望看到对塑料包装和污染者征税，这部分收入会给使用更可持续方法的公司提供资金上的优惠，使这些可重复包装的产品比货架上那些破坏环境的产品更便宜。迫使市场做出改变。制造商会找到解决方案的，因为这样做是有经济必要性的。
lazylazycat
Their paper bags are great actually. I prefer them most supermarket's plastic ones - they're really strong.
他们的纸袋真的很棒。比起大部分超市里的塑料袋，我更喜欢它们——它们真的很结实。
Their paper bags are great actually. I prefer them most supermarket's plastic ones - they're really strong.
他们的纸袋真的很棒。比起大部分超市里的塑料袋，我更喜欢它们——它们真的很结实。
OpenerUK
Genuine question, as a non driver how do these fair when exposed to rain for extended periods e.g. time to walk to bus stop, wait, get in and ride to destination whilst now wet, walk from bus stop to house. If you say that equates to about 20 - 40 minutes directly exposed to rain and another say 20 in transit whilst wet. That would be my only concern if all supermarkets went to paper bags. The paper bags give out for example don't fair very well when it's raining even for far shorter periods in heavy rain.
Basically if I'm planning to shop I carry a bag full of bag for lives, but if I need to get something without pre planning I have to buy a bag and need it to be sturdy enough to survive the journey home in poor weather
真正的问题在于，作为一个不开车的人，如果长时间暴露在雨中，比如需要步行到公交站、等待、上车和乘车到达目的地，而现在外面在下雨，从公交站步行到家里，这怎么能公平呢。如果你说这相当于20 - 40分钟直接暴露在雨中，另一个说20分钟在环境潮湿的携带过程中。如果所有超市都使用纸袋，这将是我唯一担心的问题。例如，纸袋在下雨时就不太合适，特别是在大雨中，哪怕时间很短也不行。
基本上，如果我计划购物，我就会随身带一大包东西。但是，如果我没有事先计划就需要买东西，那我就得买一个袋子，而且需要它足够坚固，能在恶劣的天气中挺过回家的旅程
Genuine question, as a non driver how do these fair when exposed to rain for extended periods e.g. time to walk to bus stop, wait, get in and ride to destination whilst now wet, walk from bus stop to house. If you say that equates to about 20 - 40 minutes directly exposed to rain and another say 20 in transit whilst wet. That would be my only concern if all supermarkets went to paper bags. The paper bags give out for example don't fair very well when it's raining even for far shorter periods in heavy rain.
Basically if I'm planning to shop I carry a bag full of bag for lives, but if I need to get something without pre planning I have to buy a bag and need it to be sturdy enough to survive the journey home in poor weather
真正的问题在于，作为一个不开车的人，如果长时间暴露在雨中，比如需要步行到公交站、等待、上车和乘车到达目的地，而现在外面在下雨，从公交站步行到家里，这怎么能公平呢。如果你说这相当于20 - 40分钟直接暴露在雨中，另一个说20分钟在环境潮湿的携带过程中。如果所有超市都使用纸袋，这将是我唯一担心的问题。例如，纸袋在下雨时就不太合适，特别是在大雨中，哪怕时间很短也不行。
基本上，如果我计划购物，我就会随身带一大包东西。但是，如果我没有事先计划就需要买东西，那我就得买一个袋子，而且需要它足够坚固，能在恶劣的天气中挺过回家的旅程
tysonmaniacLondon
This is mad to me, because these are the only bags I have never managed to reuse. They tear, they get wet, they get dirty, and it's hard to transport them. If you drive then fair enough, but that is a whole lot worse for the planet than me walking to the shops with my plastic bags.
这对我来说是疯狂的，因为这是唯一一个我从来没有设法重复使用的袋子。它们会撕裂，会湿，会脏，而且很难携带。如果你开车的话，那是很正常的，但这对地球来说比我拿着塑料袋去商店要糟糕得多。
This is mad to me, because these are the only bags I have never managed to reuse. They tear, they get wet, they get dirty, and it's hard to transport them. If you drive then fair enough, but that is a whole lot worse for the planet than me walking to the shops with my plastic bags.
这对我来说是疯狂的，因为这是唯一一个我从来没有设法重复使用的袋子。它们会撕裂，会湿，会脏，而且很难携带。如果你开车的话，那是很正常的，但这对地球来说比我拿着塑料袋去商店要糟糕得多。
DreamingIntoTheVoid
I shop at Morrisons. I care about minimising plastic waste. Their fresh veg section is providing more loose veg. There still some items that come in nets and bags, but almost everything I buy has a loose option.
我在莫里森商店购物。我关心的是尽量减少塑料垃圾。他们的新鲜蔬菜区提供了更多的散装蔬菜。还是有一些用网袋和袋子装的，但我买的几乎所有东西都有散装的选择。
I shop at Morrisons. I care about minimising plastic waste. Their fresh veg section is providing more loose veg. There still some items that come in nets and bags, but almost everything I buy has a loose option.
我在莫里森商店购物。我关心的是尽量减少塑料垃圾。他们的新鲜蔬菜区提供了更多的散装蔬菜。还是有一些用网袋和袋子装的，但我买的几乎所有东西都有散装的选择。
Economy_Ad_9275
One study found that as much as 70% (by weight) of macro plastics (in excess of 20cm) found floating on the surface of the ocean was Fishing gear.
A recent study of the “great Pacific garbage patch”, an area of plastic accumulation in the north Pacific, estimated that it contained 42,000 tonnes of megaplastics, of which 86% was fishing nets.
一项研究发现，漂浮在海洋表面的大塑料（超过20厘米长）中多达70%（按重量计算）是渔具。
最近一项关于“大太平洋垃圾带”（北太平洋塑料堆积区域）的研究估计，该垃圾带含有42000吨巨型塑料，其中86%是渔网。
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One study found that as much as 70% (by weight) of macro plastics (in excess of 20cm) found floating on the surface of the ocean was Fishing gear.
A recent study of the “great Pacific garbage patch”, an area of plastic accumulation in the north Pacific, estimated that it contained 42,000 tonnes of megaplastics, of which 86% was fishing nets.
一项研究发现，漂浮在海洋表面的大塑料（超过20厘米长）中多达70%（按重量计算）是渔具。
最近一项关于“大太平洋垃圾带”（北太平洋塑料堆积区域）的研究估计，该垃圾带含有42000吨巨型塑料，其中86%是渔网。
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ReleaseTheBeeees
What's your point? Don't diminish other plastic use because fishing is more prent?
那你的观点是什么？因为捕鱼造成的塑料污染更大，所以无需减少其他塑料制品的使用？
What's your point? Don't diminish other plastic use because fishing is more prent?
那你的观点是什么？因为捕鱼造成的塑料污染更大，所以无需减少其他塑料制品的使用？
eevee047West Midlands
The point, I would imagine. Is that the vast majority of news such as this focuses on the minority of plastics. It's always about plastic bags and other plastics your average person uses, and not about how the biggest polluter of oceans is fishing gear, and how to fix that. It's low hanging fruit that gives people the idea that something is being done, when in fact, proportionally, almost nothing is.
我想这就是重点。这类新闻绝大多数关注的是塑料制品的少数。它总是关于塑料袋和其他普通人使用的塑料，而不是关于海洋最大的污染者其实是捕鱼工具，以及如何解决这个问题。减少塑料袋和其他普通人使用的塑料是一个很容易实现的目标，让人们觉得有些事情正在做，但实际上，按污染比例来说，几乎什么都没有做。
The point, I would imagine. Is that the vast majority of news such as this focuses on the minority of plastics. It's always about plastic bags and other plastics your average person uses, and not about how the biggest polluter of oceans is fishing gear, and how to fix that. It's low hanging fruit that gives people the idea that something is being done, when in fact, proportionally, almost nothing is.
我想这就是重点。这类新闻绝大多数关注的是塑料制品的少数。它总是关于塑料袋和其他普通人使用的塑料，而不是关于海洋最大的污染者其实是捕鱼工具，以及如何解决这个问题。减少塑料袋和其他普通人使用的塑料是一个很容易实现的目标，让人们觉得有些事情正在做，但实际上，按污染比例来说，几乎什么都没有做。
greenmachine41590
Absolutely correct.
I have nothing against genuinely helpful efforts to be more environmentally friendly, but 99% of the time I feel like the focus is on whatever will annoy me the most while helping the least.
Personally I could go either way on plastic bags. I’ve used my own reusable bags for groceries for years, but it’s frustrating that a complete ban means I can’t get one every now and then when a plastic bag would still be really helpful.
What really bothers me is straws, because there simply is no acceptable replacement. If you try to tell me that the experience of drinking a milkshake or bubble tea isn’t completely ruined by using a paper straw, you’re lying right to my fucking face. I have reusable metal straws at home that are fine enough, but when I’m out? I’m sorry, if you carry around a reusable straw in your pocket everywhere you go on the off chance you might need to drink something, you’ve lost your mind.
绝对正确。
我并不反对真正有帮助的，让事情变得更环保的努力，但99%的时候我感觉人们关注的是那些最让我烦恼，但帮助却最少的事情。
就我个人而言，我可以选择使用塑料袋。多年来，我一直在用自己的可重复使用的塑料袋购物，但令人沮丧的是，完全禁止塑料袋意味着我不能在时不时地使用塑料袋，而塑料袋其实仍然非常有用。
真正困扰我的是吸管，因为根本没有可接受的替代品。如果你试图告诉我，喝奶昔或珍珠奶茶的体验不会因为用纸吸管而完全毁了，那你就是在对着我撒谎。我家里有可重复使用的金属吸管，还不错，但我出去的时候呢？很抱歉，如果你去任何地方都随身携带一根可重复使用的吸管，只是为了碰碰运气喝点东西，那你肯定是疯了。
Absolutely correct.
I have nothing against genuinely helpful efforts to be more environmentally friendly, but 99% of the time I feel like the focus is on whatever will annoy me the most while helping the least.
Personally I could go either way on plastic bags. I’ve used my own reusable bags for groceries for years, but it’s frustrating that a complete ban means I can’t get one every now and then when a plastic bag would still be really helpful.
What really bothers me is straws, because there simply is no acceptable replacement. If you try to tell me that the experience of drinking a milkshake or bubble tea isn’t completely ruined by using a paper straw, you’re lying right to my fucking face. I have reusable metal straws at home that are fine enough, but when I’m out? I’m sorry, if you carry around a reusable straw in your pocket everywhere you go on the off chance you might need to drink something, you’ve lost your mind.
绝对正确。
我并不反对真正有帮助的，让事情变得更环保的努力，但99%的时候我感觉人们关注的是那些最让我烦恼，但帮助却最少的事情。
就我个人而言，我可以选择使用塑料袋。多年来，我一直在用自己的可重复使用的塑料袋购物，但令人沮丧的是，完全禁止塑料袋意味着我不能在时不时地使用塑料袋，而塑料袋其实仍然非常有用。
真正困扰我的是吸管，因为根本没有可接受的替代品。如果你试图告诉我，喝奶昔或珍珠奶茶的体验不会因为用纸吸管而完全毁了，那你就是在对着我撒谎。我家里有可重复使用的金属吸管，还不错，但我出去的时候呢？很抱歉，如果你去任何地方都随身携带一根可重复使用的吸管，只是为了碰碰运气喝点东西，那你肯定是疯了。
MultiMidden
Just because something is paper or cotton doesn't necessarily make it better, as potentially more water, chemicals and energy are used in making bags out of these materials. It can take more energy to produce a paper/cotton bag than a plastic one, so you have to use it multiple times before it has the same footprint as a plastic one.
仅仅因为某样东西是纸或棉花并不一定就使它更好，因为用这些材料制作袋子可能会使用更多的水、化学品和能源。生产纸袋/棉袋比塑料袋需要更多的能源，所以你必须多次使用它才能产生与塑料袋相同的碳足迹。
Just because something is paper or cotton doesn't necessarily make it better, as potentially more water, chemicals and energy are used in making bags out of these materials. It can take more energy to produce a paper/cotton bag than a plastic one, so you have to use it multiple times before it has the same footprint as a plastic one.
仅仅因为某样东西是纸或棉花并不一定就使它更好，因为用这些材料制作袋子可能会使用更多的水、化学品和能源。生产纸袋/棉袋比塑料袋需要更多的能源，所以你必须多次使用它才能产生与塑料袋相同的碳足迹。
infernal_llamas
A cotton bag probably has at least 100 use cycles in it.
And at least it can rot rather than landfill.
一个棉袋子里可能至少有100个使用周期。
至少它可以（自行）腐烂而不是被填埋。
A cotton bag probably has at least 100 use cycles in it.
And at least it can rot rather than landfill.
一个棉袋子里可能至少有100个使用周期。
至少它可以（自行）腐烂而不是被填埋。
BaronOfBeanDip
The environmental argument just doesn't hold water. You need to use a reusable bag 147 times to offset the CO2 emissions of single use bags. I'd wager that doesn't happen often at all. This is, once again, shifting the responsibility onto consumers while the real problems go unaddressed.
关于环境的争论是站不住脚的。你需要使用可重复使用的袋自147次，才能抵消一次性袋的二氧化碳排放。我敢打赌这种事不常发生。这又一次把责任推给了消费者，而真正的问题却没有得到解决。
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The environmental argument just doesn't hold water. You need to use a reusable bag 147 times to offset the CO2 emissions of single use bags. I'd wager that doesn't happen often at all. This is, once again, shifting the responsibility onto consumers while the real problems go unaddressed.
关于环境的争论是站不住脚的。你需要使用可重复使用的袋自147次，才能抵消一次性袋的二氧化碳排放。我敢打赌这种事不常发生。这又一次把责任推给了消费者，而真正的问题却没有得到解决。
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tysonmaniacLondon
Also single use bags aren't single use! You can reuse plastic bags. Only a very small minority of people are going to use bags in such a way that fancy cotton ones are environmentally beneficial.
而且一次性塑料袋不是一次性使用的！你可以重复使用塑料袋。只有很小一部分人会使用花哨的棉布袋来保护环境。
Also single use bags aren't single use! You can reuse plastic bags. Only a very small minority of people are going to use bags in such a way that fancy cotton ones are environmentally beneficial.
而且一次性塑料袋不是一次性使用的！你可以重复使用塑料袋。只有很小一部分人会使用花哨的棉布袋来保护环境。
celticfan008
who cares what happens to it in a landfill if producing one cotton bag has a bigger impact on the environment than one plastic bag.
如果生产一个棉袋比一个塑料袋对环境的影响更大，那谁会关心垃圾填埋场会发生什么。
who cares what happens to it in a landfill if producing one cotton bag has a bigger impact on the environment than one plastic bag.
如果生产一个棉袋比一个塑料袋对环境的影响更大，那谁会关心垃圾填埋场会发生什么。
sprucay
Plastic isn't necessarily about the carbon though, it's about waste into the oceans.
塑料并不一定与碳排放有关，而是与垃圾进入海洋有关。
Plastic isn't necessarily about the carbon though, it's about waste into the oceans.
塑料并不一定与碳排放有关，而是与垃圾进入海洋有关。
Add1215
Why did this take so long. We've known for decades that plastic bags are bad for the environment but they keep selling them and blame the public for buying them. And half the shit being sold in supermarkets is still covered in plastic, but again it's our fault for buying them not the companies making millions who can't be arsed to change
为什么禁塑花了这么长时间。几十年来，我们都知道塑料袋对环境有害，但他们一直在出售塑料袋，并指责购买塑料袋的公众。超市里卖的那些玩意有一半还是用塑料盖着的，但还是那句话，买这些垃圾是我们的错，而不是那些赚了几百万却不愿改变的公司
Why did this take so long. We've known for decades that plastic bags are bad for the environment but they keep selling them and blame the public for buying them. And half the shit being sold in supermarkets is still covered in plastic, but again it's our fault for buying them not the companies making millions who can't be arsed to change
为什么禁塑花了这么长时间。几十年来，我们都知道塑料袋对环境有害，但他们一直在出售塑料袋，并指责购买塑料袋的公众。超市里卖的那些玩意有一半还是用塑料盖着的，但还是那句话，买这些垃圾是我们的错，而不是那些赚了几百万却不愿改变的公司
Yvellkan
Plastic bags are quantifiable better for the environment in every single way than the alternatives
从各个方面来说，塑料袋其实都比其他替代品对环境更好
Plastic bags are quantifiable better for the environment in every single way than the alternatives
从各个方面来说，塑料袋其实都比其他替代品对环境更好
Add1215
Better than paper?
比纸袋更好吗？
Better than paper?
比纸袋更好吗？
LegateLaurie
Paper has a significant water cost, a lot of lumber comes from old trees (which take in far more CO2), recycled paper is a total disaster in terms of energy use, and they break.
Plastic bags are stronger, and only actually have a tiny impact in terms of CO2
纸要耗费大量的水，很多木材来自老树（吸收更多的二氧化碳），再生纸完全是一场能源消耗的灾难，而且它们会破裂。
塑料袋更结实，实际上只对二氧化碳排放产生很小的影响
Paper has a significant water cost, a lot of lumber comes from old trees (which take in far more CO2), recycled paper is a total disaster in terms of energy use, and they break.
Plastic bags are stronger, and only actually have a tiny impact in terms of CO2
纸要耗费大量的水，很多木材来自老树（吸收更多的二氧化碳），再生纸完全是一场能源消耗的灾难，而且它们会破裂。
塑料袋更结实，实际上只对二氧化碳排放产生很小的影响
Work_Owl
This is really great, hopefully they'll be the catalyst to get other supermarkets to follow suit
It's like with what Burger King did by removing plastic packaging in favour of paper - soon after they announced that, McDonald's did the same
这真是太棒了，希望它们能成为其他超市效仿的催化剂
这就像汉堡王把塑料包装换成纸包装一样——在他们宣布之后不久，麦当劳也做了同样的事情
This is really great, hopefully they'll be the catalyst to get other supermarkets to follow suit
It's like with what Burger King did by removing plastic packaging in favour of paper - soon after they announced that, McDonald's did the same
这真是太棒了，希望它们能成为其他超市效仿的催化剂
这就像汉堡王把塑料包装换成纸包装一样——在他们宣布之后不久，麦当劳也做了同样的事情
DaytripToLucy
Next they'll make a real meaningful change and stop selling fish
接下来，他们将做出真正有意义的改变：停止卖鱼
Next they'll make a real meaningful change and stop selling fish
接下来，他们将做出真正有意义的改变：停止卖鱼
HouseThen2777
Great we continue cucking ourselves with shitty alternatives to plastics while the rest of the world does whatever the fuck they want. If anything is going to be done then at least target industrial waste before shifting recycling blame to the consumers ffs.
太好了，我们继续用劣质的塑料替代品来欺骗自己，而世界上的其他人却为所欲为。如果要采取任何措施，那么至少在将回收责任转移到消费者身上之前，先将目标对准工业废物。
Great we continue cucking ourselves with shitty alternatives to plastics while the rest of the world does whatever the fuck they want. If anything is going to be done then at least target industrial waste before shifting recycling blame to the consumers ffs.
太好了，我们继续用劣质的塑料替代品来欺骗自己，而世界上的其他人却为所欲为。如果要采取任何措施，那么至少在将回收责任转移到消费者身上之前，先将目标对准工业废物。
strawman5757
Spot on mate, this is all a load of balls, Morrison charge way over the odds for their bags as it is, 50p for a bag ffs, I remember the day when 50p got you 2 pints or 20 fags.
Their paper bags, well, in summer I went in and got some ale and they’d run out of proper bags so I had to have a shitty paper one, of course it was pissing down outside so by the time I got to my car the bag was falling apart.
对了，伙计，这都是套路，莫里森的收费远远超过了他们的袋子的成本，一个袋子收费50便士，我记得有以前50便士就能买到2品脱啤酒或20根烟。
至于他们的纸袋，好吧，夏天的时候，我进去买了一些麦芽酒，他们用完了合适的袋子，所以我只好用了一个劣质的纸袋，果然，到了外面已经在“撒尿”了，所以当我走到我的车的时候，袋子已经散架了。
Spot on mate, this is all a load of balls, Morrison charge way over the odds for their bags as it is, 50p for a bag ffs, I remember the day when 50p got you 2 pints or 20 fags.
Their paper bags, well, in summer I went in and got some ale and they’d run out of proper bags so I had to have a shitty paper one, of course it was pissing down outside so by the time I got to my car the bag was falling apart.
对了，伙计，这都是套路，莫里森的收费远远超过了他们的袋子的成本，一个袋子收费50便士，我记得有以前50便士就能买到2品脱啤酒或20根烟。
至于他们的纸袋，好吧，夏天的时候，我进去买了一些麦芽酒，他们用完了合适的袋子，所以我只好用了一个劣质的纸袋，果然，到了外面已经在“撒尿”了，所以当我走到我的车的时候，袋子已经散架了。
Sister-Rhubarb
Part of the problem is people's mentality. If everyone going shopping brought their "bags for life" with them, there would be no need to get plastic or paper convenience bags.
If supermarkets provided the goods, but not the means to transport the goods, people would have to bring their own means of transport - just as they still have to travel to the supermarket, as the supermarket won't travel to them (although online shopping provides an alternative).
部分问题在于人们的心态。如果每个人去购物都带着他们的“生活袋”，就没有必要再用塑料或纸方便袋了。
如果超市提供商品，但不提供运输工具，人们将不得不带上自己的交通工具——就像他们仍然需要去超市，因为超市不会去他们那里（尽管网上购物提供了另一种选择）。
Part of the problem is people's mentality. If everyone going shopping brought their "bags for life" with them, there would be no need to get plastic or paper convenience bags.
If supermarkets provided the goods, but not the means to transport the goods, people would have to bring their own means of transport - just as they still have to travel to the supermarket, as the supermarket won't travel to them (although online shopping provides an alternative).
部分问题在于人们的心态。如果每个人去购物都带着他们的“生活袋”，就没有必要再用塑料或纸方便袋了。
如果超市提供商品，但不提供运输工具，人们将不得不带上自己的交通工具——就像他们仍然需要去超市，因为超市不会去他们那里（尽管网上购物提供了另一种选择）。
skylay
They're the first? I haven't seen a plastic bag like these for a year or two now.
他们是第一家这么干的超市？我已经有一两年没见过那样的塑料袋了。
They're the first? I haven't seen a plastic bag like these for a year or two now.
他们是第一家这么干的超市？我已经有一两年没见过那样的塑料袋了。
Izual_Rebirth
When is this coming in? I literally went to Morrison's yesterday and got plastic bags. I guess they still need to get rid of their old stock?
这个什么时候开始实行？我昨天真的去莫里森购物，还是得到了塑料袋。我猜他们还需要先处理掉他们的旧塑料袋库存？
When is this coming in? I literally went to Morrison's yesterday and got plastic bags. I guess they still need to get rid of their old stock?
这个什么时候开始实行？我昨天真的去莫里森购物，还是得到了塑料袋。我猜他们还需要先处理掉他们的旧塑料袋库存？
Phendrena
They've not had plastic bags in my local Morrisons for well over a year. I thought they had already made the change nationwide.
For those curious, the paper bags are a decent strength, not quite as good as plastic, but good enough.
我们当地的莫里森餐厅已经一年多没放塑料袋了。我以为他们已经在全国范围内改变了。
对于那些好奇的人来说，纸袋的强度还算不错，虽然没有塑料那么好，但也足够用了。
They've not had plastic bags in my local Morrisons for well over a year. I thought they had already made the change nationwide.
For those curious, the paper bags are a decent strength, not quite as good as plastic, but good enough.
我们当地的莫里森餐厅已经一年多没放塑料袋了。我以为他们已经在全国范围内改变了。
对于那些好奇的人来说，纸袋的强度还算不错，虽然没有塑料那么好，但也足够用了。
dudleyduright
In my local area, in the U.S., southern California, personal and re use bags are prohibited due to covid restrictions. You can only purchase new plastic bags at 10 cents each from the store if you want your groceries in a bag.
在我所在的美国南加州地区，由于疫情的限制，个人和重复使用袋是被禁止的。如果你想把你的杂货装在袋子里，你只能以10美分的价格从商店购买新的塑料袋。
In my local area, in the U.S., southern California, personal and re use bags are prohibited due to covid restrictions. You can only purchase new plastic bags at 10 cents each from the store if you want your groceries in a bag.
在我所在的美国南加州地区，由于疫情的限制，个人和重复使用袋是被禁止的。如果你想把你的杂货装在袋子里，你只能以10美分的价格从商店购买新的塑料袋。
SonWutRUdoin
Gotta be honest, all this paper bag fee has done is put up my weekly shop by 20-40p. I never remember to bring them.
说实话，这些纸袋费让我每周的消费增加了20-40便士。我从来不记得带着它们去购物（所以只能再买一个）。
Gotta be honest, all this paper bag fee has done is put up my weekly shop by 20-40p. I never remember to bring them.
说实话，这些纸袋费让我每周的消费增加了20-40便士。我从来不记得带着它们去购物（所以只能再买一个）。
mrs_shrew
When I've put my shopping away I put the empty bags in my shoes so when I next put my shoes on I have them ready to take to the car.
当我把我买的东西放好，我会把空袋子放在我的鞋子里，所以当我下次穿上我的鞋子时，我就已经准备好把它们带到车上了。
When I've put my shopping away I put the empty bags in my shoes so when I next put my shoes on I have them ready to take to the car.
当我把我买的东西放好，我会把空袋子放在我的鞋子里，所以当我下次穿上我的鞋子时，我就已经准备好把它们带到车上了。
BelleArielWales
Good on them. We need to do more to help the environment.
莫里森做得好。我们需要做更多的事情来帮助环境。
Good on them. We need to do more to help the environment.
莫里森做得好。我们需要做更多的事情来帮助环境。
Yvellkan
This is worse for the environment
这么搞对环境更不利
This is worse for the environment
这么搞对环境更不利
Yvellkan
Plastic bags are quantifiable better for the environment in every single way than the alternatives
从各个方面来说，塑料袋都比其他替代品对环境更友好
Plastic bags are quantifiable better for the environment in every single way than the alternatives
从各个方面来说，塑料袋都比其他替代品对环境更友好
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