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Justin Xu, Marketing consultant (2016-present)

Justin Xu，营销顾问（2016年至今）

Here are some tips that I have learned to learn this specific language.
The best way to learn to Chinese:
1）Find a native Chinese boyfriend or girlfriend. The best way to learn any language is through the power of love. At some point of the relationship you are going to meet your partner's parents. They will most likely be speaking in a foreign language. Will you feel left out? Absolutely. Will you want to know if they are talking about you? Oh most definitely. Works 99% of time, From personal experience, this works.

以下是我学习这门语言的一些技巧。
学习中文的最佳方法：
找一个中国本土的男朋友或女朋友，学习任何语言的最好方法是通过爱的力量。在关系进展到某个时刻，你会遇到你伴侣的父母。对你来说，他们就是说外语。你会觉得被冷落吗？绝对地会，你想知道他们是否在谈论你？肯定非常想。从个人经验来看，这是可行的。

2) Go out and network with locals! Make some Chinese friends! Yes, it sounds crazy right? If you want to learn Chinese in Shanghai you need to go out and mingle; use what you know. Don't be afraid to get out of your comfort zone. I recommend trying places with young Chinese locals that have learned or need to use English as a second language. Such examples are airports, hotels, foreign restaurants, schools, government places, tourist areas. At least the communication between you two would be a lot easier than with a local who has no knowledge of English.

走出去，与当地人建立联系！结交一些中国朋友！是的，听起来很疯狂，对吗？但是如果你想在上海学习汉语，你需要走出去，融入其中；使用你所知道的词汇。不要害怕走出你的舒适区。我建议去一些有学习英语或需要将英语作为第二语言的中国本地年轻人的地方。例如机场、酒店、外国餐馆、学校、政府场所、旅游区。至少你们之间的交流会比和一个不懂英语的当地人交流容易得多。
3) Take a Chinese course. A simple Chinese course will teach you the basic of language in a living or working environment. There are tons of Chinese schools for foreigners located in Shanghai. However, I do recommend the school called Mandarin Morning早安汉语. This school helped me when I first arrived in shanghai. I came from USA, with no experience in speaking in Mandarin. I highly recommend this for any new comer in Shanghai interested in learning Mandarin.
上中文课。一门简单的汉语课程将教你在生活或工作环境中的基本语言。在上海有很多面向外国人的中国学校。不过，我还是推荐一所叫“早安汉语”的学校. 我刚到上海时，这所学校帮助了我。我来自美国，没有讲普通话的经验。我强烈推荐这个给任何新到上海的有兴趣学习普通话的人。
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Patrick Welsh, 65 years of personal experience and MA Degree in Oriental Languages, Kansas U.

Patrick Welsh, 65年的个人经验，并获得美国堪萨斯大学东方语言硕士学位。

I have been using Mandarin for about six decades so I have not felt the need to use any websites. But let me give you an outline as to how you should attack any language that you wish to learn. I base this advice on my experience teaching foreign languages, including Mandarin, to high school students. What applies to them can apply to you as well. (Of course you could go to Amazon and procure materials. There are also websites that you can find on line.)
The learning of a new language is much more the acquisition of a habit rather than an intellectual skill such as learning about history, philosophy or literature. The process of learning a language is similar to learning how to play a sport or a musical instrument. In both learning a sport and learning a language, the learner is required to practice what he is learning. How successful the learner will be will depend upon the extent that the learner will invest time and continued effort.
g, the best approach would be to align his lessons along meeting social needs and experiences. The approach to grammar should be limited to only learning what is needed for the specific social situation. For example, when common obxts are introduced, there is no point in giving anything more than the nominative case of nouns until the other cases are actually used in a specific social situation.
In the beginning, aside from learning pronunciation from native speakers or recordings, the learner can start out from the simple to the sublime in gradual steps or units.

我已经使用普通话大约60年了，所以我觉得没有必要借助任何网站。我给你一个大纲，告诉你应该如何学习任何你想学习的语言。我的建议是基于我教高中学生外语(包括普通话)的经验。适用于他们的东西也适用于你。(当然，你可以去亚马逊买材料。你也可以在网上找到一些网站。)
学习一门新语言更多的是养成一种习惯，而不是像学习历史、哲学或文学这样的智力技能。学习一门语言的过程类似于学习如何进行一项运动或学习一种乐器。无论是学习一项运动还是学习一门语言，学习者都需要实践他所学习的东西。学习者的成功将取决于学习者投入时间和持续努力的程度。
最好的方法是将他的课程与社会需求和经验相结合。学习语法的方法应该仅限于学习特定的社会场合所需要的东西。例如，当介绍普通的物体时，除了给出名词的主格外，没有任何意义，直到冰格或者谓语在特定的社会场合中被实际使用。
一开始，除了从母语者或录音中学习发音外，学习者可以循序渐进地从简单到卓越。
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In his first unit, he can learn how to greet and say good-bye to people along with expressions for “please”, “thank you” and a few related expressions along the lines of “pleased to meet you.”
In the second unit the learner can learn how to ask and give the identity of people and oneself. The learner could also identify friends and family members. Limit the vocabulary to personal and simple possessive pronouns and identity words such as friend, father, mother, brother, sister etc. so as to be able to say, “He/This person is my friend etc.” The word for “not” can be introduced here.
In the third unit, the learner can ask and identify common obxts seen in the home, office or school.
In the fourth unit, the learner can learn how to give one word descxtion of common obxts and people. i.e. “The book is red.” “She is interesting, friendly boring etc.”
In the fifth unit, the learner can ask and tell where something is. Prepositions and adverbs of place can be introduced here. The names of a few common items, rooms along with a few commercial stores, banks, and post offices can be included in the new vocabulary.
In the sixth unit, the learner can learn how to ask and tell where someone is going. Verbs of motion and the names of a few rooms and stores can be new vocabulary items.
In the seventh unit, the learner can ask and tell what another person’s hobbies, activities and interests are. The learner can also ask whether or not someone likes to do something.
From the eighth unit on, the learner can focus on specific social interactions in restaurants, stores, doctor’s offices, post offices, banks, traveling by the various vehicles etc. At this point you should have an idea of what I might recommend for future units.
I hope this will help you.

在他的第一个单元，他可以学习如何问候和说再见，以及“请”、“谢谢”和一些相关的表达方式，如“很高兴认识你”。
在第二单元中，学习者可以学习如何提问和介绍别人和自己的身份。学习者还可以识别朋友和家庭成员。把词汇限制在个人和简单的物主代词和身份词上，比如朋友、父亲、母亲、兄弟、姐妹等，这样就能说“他/这个人是我的朋友等等”。
在第三单元中，学习者可以询问和识别在家里、办公室或学校看到的常见物体。
在第四单元中，学习者可以学习如何用一个词来描述常见的人和物。例如:这本书是红色的。“她是有趣的，友好的，无聊的等等。”
在第五单元中，学习者可以问并说出某物在哪里。介词和地点副词可以在这里介绍。一些常用物品、房间以及一些商业商店、银行和邮局的名称都可以包含在新的词汇表中。
在第六单元中，学习者可以学习如何询问和判断某人要去哪里。运动的动词和一些房间和商店的名称可以成为新的词汇项。
在第七单元中，学习者可以问并说出另一个人的爱好、活动和兴趣是什么。学习者还可以问某人是否喜欢做某事。
从第八单元开始，学习者可以专注于在餐馆、商店、医生办公室、邮局、银行、通过各种车辆旅行等特定的社会互动内容。现在，你应该知道我对未来单元的建议了。
我希望这对你有帮助。

Alex Chu, knows Mandarin Chinese

亚历克斯·朱，懂普通话

Determination (???? why, for business, for getting a Chinese wife/husband?? for better career?? just for fun??? )
Time and Effort
A. Books, B. Language learning software , C. Face-to-face classes in your country, or in China, in Taiwan, etc; or D. Online courses, some free and some with a cost (Google search “free university course in mandarin Chinese”)
A real life language environment - so you can dwell yourself daily or regularly reading/writing/speaking listening the language. You’d better find a boyfriend/girlfriend. I mean, real relationship; so you can have both the momentum and environment to pick up Mandarin and also by-products: happiness, even your life-long partner, and family; provided your are single and available;

决心（为什么？为了做生意需要；为了找一个中国妻子/丈夫；为了更好的事业；只是为了好玩。）
时间和努力
A、书籍，B、语言学习软件，C、在自己国家或中国(大陆)、台湾等地的面对面课程；或者D、在线课程，有些免费，有些收费（谷歌搜索“免费中文大学课程”）
一个真实的语言环境：可以每天或定期阅读/写作/说/听中文。你最好找个（懂中文）男朋友/女朋友。我的意思是有真实的关系；因此，你既有学习普通话的动力和环境，也有副产品：幸福，甚至是你的终身伴侣和家庭；前提是你是单身且有空；
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Agnes Fabiola, M.A Chinese & Linguistics (2013)

Agnes Fabiola，中文与语言学硕士（2013年）

i think the best way is to commit yourself entirely to learning Chinese through the culture.
Mandarin has a very different system of language. The way we have to learn mandarin therefore can’t be the same as we learn romanic languages…..many people tried to learn with the most ridiculous ways, tried to made it easier without learning the characters. I will tell you right now that doesn’t work unless you are born as a native speaker.
the only way to learn mandarin throughly is to understand its characters, and also history and cuktures all of them. The language emerged from one of the oldest continuos history of the world, therefore there is no easy way to understand the complexity of the language. Youve gotta love The whole thing. Then memorize, memorize, memorize. Trust me it will be easy with the culture knowledge.

我认为最好的方法是全身心投入到通过学习文化来学习汉语。
普通话有一个非常不同的语言系统。因此，我们学习普通话的方式不能与学习罗马语的方式相同，许多人试图用最荒谬的方式学习，不学习汉字的情况下，试图找到容易的方式学习它。我现在就告诉你，除非你出生时以中文为母语，否则这是行不通的。
要想学好普通话，唯一的办法就是了解它的文字，以及所有的历史和文化。这种语言起源于世界上最古老的连续体史之一，因此理解这种语言的复杂性并不容易。你必须热爱这一切。然后记住，掌握文化知识后再学习会感觉很容易的。

Tony Chen
Well, I believe living in China or having some Chinese friends to talk about everything everyday in Mandarin should be one of the best ways.

But all above should be based on one condition you've learned 拼音 which is Chinese Pinyin :)
If you haven't, you should start your journey of learning Mandarin with learning 拼音(Chinese Pinyin).
And while learning 拼音, you should also learn Chinese characters, which is difficult for binginner.

If you got any questions/problems, please don't hesitate to ask (???????)?
(I am a Chinese guy, so if you want to, you can have my WeChat so that we can talk)

嗯，我相信生活在中国或交一些中国朋友，每天用普通话谈论一切应该是最好的方式之一。
但所有这些都应该基于一个条件：你学会汉语拼音。
如果你不会拼音，你应该开始学习汉语拼音之旅。
在学习拼音的过程, 你还应该学习汉字，在开始时这对你来说很难。
如果您有任何问题，可以随时提问。
我是一个中国人，如果你想，你可以拥有我的微信，这样我们就可以私聊了。

Angela Leung, Data Scientist

梁安琪，数据科学家

There is no shortage of answers here, so I’ll keep mine really short. You did state “speak Mandarin” in your question so I assume you’re more interested in communicating verbally more than writing/reading. With that, I think the best way is to immerse yourself in listening/talking the language all day everyday, which can be achieved by: making friends with people that only speaks Mandarin (the closer the relationship, the better). And if you are introverted or dislike human interaction (I can relate), then, fall in love with Mandarin TV shows and songs should help a whole lot. I am Cantonese who grew up in Hong Kong, so Mandarin to me is not a new language. However, I do want to attribute the reason for my (relatively) fluent Mandarin to having Faye Wong as my childhood idol. Back in those days, I sooooo wanted to be just like her!! (She was a Kong Kong superstar born in Beijing) (I was so young and naive) (OK I feel old now) I even went studying abroad in Beijing when I was in college too, because of my idol!
I probably spoke too much… My point is, fall in love with a Mandarin speaker and you will be so motivated and will find yourself speaking it fluently in no time!
Good luck with your journey!

这里不缺少答案，所以我会尽量简短。你的问题中确实提到了“说普通话”，所以我估计你对口头交流比写作/阅读更感兴趣。因此，我认为最好的方法是全天沉浸在听/说汉语中，这可以通过以下方式实现：与只会说普通话的人交朋友（关系越密切越好）。如果你性格内向或不喜欢人际交往（我可以理解），那么，普通话电视节目和歌曲应该会有很大帮助。我是在香港长大的广东人，所以普通话对我来说不是一门新的语言。然而，我确实想把我（相对）流利的普通话归因于有王菲作为我童年的偶像。在那些日子里，我很想和她一样！（她是出生在北京的一位香港超级明星）（我那时很年轻，很天真，好吧，我觉得如今已经老了）我上大学的时候因为我的偶像，也去了北京学习！
我可能说得太多了，我的意思是，爱上一个说普通话的人，你会很有动力，很快就会发现自己说得很流利！
祝你好运！

Heath B. Kish, Mandarin speaker (reading & speaking are fluent), salesman, expat

会说普通话（阅读和口语流利），销售员，外籍人士
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It takes years to learn well, and you will only get there if you live in a Mandarin environment, and are truly motivated. You need to be able to practice every day (hence the necessity of the environment), and you need to take the tones seriously.
I've studied for 12 years. Out of the four skills of reading, writing, listening & speaking, reading is by far the most important. Reading is the one that helps the other three. The better you read, the more the other three will improve. Focusing on speaking doesn't help reading, but reading will help your speaking.
You need to push yourself to get to a level where you can read most of the characters in whatever you're reading. The others you don't know, you can take notes, and this is your study material. Once you make it through the content and all your notes are taken, you need to go back and read it again, and again and again...
Repeated reading is the key. Read the same article 10-15 times to let both the vocabulary and the grammar sink in. Pronunciation comes before meaning. If you can't automatically do the pronunciation your brain will never get the meaning. Every time you reread something you will read it faster and more fluently. This should be your goal for Mandarin, or any foreign/second language you study. And by repeated reading, you don't need to technically study grammar as your brain will automatically absorb it.
Don't ever think by looking at an article over and over again is wasting time, and that you need to look at something new to feel like you are making progress. Reviewing and repeated reading will work, and it will work for any language, you just need to have patience and be motivated.

学好汉语需要几年的时间，只有生活在普通话环境中，并且真正有动力，你才能学好汉语。你需要能够每天练习（因此环境是很重要的），此外你需要认真对待音调。
我已经学习12年了。在读、写、听、说四项技能中，阅读是最重要的。阅读是对其他三个方面很有帮助。你阅读水平越好，其他三个方面的进步就越大。专注于说话无助于阅读，但阅读会帮助你说话。
你需要让自己达到一个水平，在这个水平上，你可以阅读任何你正在阅读的内容中的大部分字符。其他你不知道的，你可以做笔记，这是你的学习材料。一旦你看完了内容并记下了所有笔记，你需要回去再读一遍，重复再读一遍。
反复阅读是关键。把同一篇文章读10-15遍，让词汇和语法都能理解。发音重于意义。如果你不能自动发音，你的大脑就永远不会明白它的意思。每次你重读的时候，会读得更快更流利。这应该是你学习普通话或任何外语/第二语言的目标。反复阅读就好，你不需要专门学习语法，因为你的大脑会自动吸收语法。
永远不要认为一遍又一遍地看文章是在浪费时间，你需要看一些新的东西来感觉你在进步。复习和反复阅读都会奏效，而且对任何语言都有效，你只需要有耐心和动力。

Wong Tsing, worked at Translators
Bear in mind three things before you get started:
interest, persistent, immersion
1. Pinyin is the foundation. Even when I was in primary school, I studied pinyin first. It is really important in your further study.
2. Listening to the recordings. Listening is a interesting or even magical way to learning languages. When I was 10, I started English learning. Our teacher didn't speak a good English. And I didn't have any chance to practice English with anyone. But I do love the language. All what I did at that time was listening to the tape.
Not to mention grammar/syntax/intonation, I didn't even know what the tape was saying. I just listened, and after thousands of times, I could repeat after the tape and would even know what it was going to say.
Just by learning in this way, I did a good job in English exams/speech competitions. So, listening does create a good environment for language acquisition.
Listening can help to build a sense of Chinese language. When listening, pay attention to every single word it says/to the intonation/ to the tone and try to repeat after the recordings as much as you can.

在开始学汉语之前，请记住三件事：
兴趣、坚持、沉浸
拼音是基础。即使在我上小学的时候，我也是先学拼音。这对你的进一步学习非常重要。
听录音。听力是学习语言的一种有趣甚至神奇的方式。当我10岁时，我开始学习英语。我们的老师英语说得不好。我没有机会和任何人一起练习英语。但我确实喜欢这种语言。当时我能做的就是听磁带。
更不用说语法/语法/语调了，我甚至不知道磁带上说的是什么。我只是听而已，在听了几千遍之后，我可以跟着磁带重复，甚至知道它说什么。
通过这种方式学习，我在英语考试/演讲比赛中表现出色。因此，听力确实为学习语言创造了一个良好的环境。
听有助于建立汉语的语感。听录音时，注意听录音中的每一个单词/语调/音调，并尽量在录音后重复。

3. Do some writing. I knew you are focusing on speaking. But writing is as important as speaking. It is interesting to notice that, in China, students who are good at speaking, they may not good at writing. While students who are good at writing, they surely can speak a fluent English.
Writing is considered to be an indispensable part of language learning. It needs the learner to have a sound grasp of the grammar, expression and sentence structure etc. So, try to write down something in Chinese. You may begin by writing a character, a word, a sentence, and then a passage.
Someday when you write an email to me without any mistakes, you will by then make it.
The above-mentioned tips are too general but I am sure they will be helpful. Chinese language is vastly different from English, so if you have any questions in your further study, email me at interpreterkenny@qq.com. I would be very much like to help.

写点东西。我知道你有专注于说话。但是写作和说话一样重要。有趣的是，在中国，擅长口语的学生可能不擅长写作。而擅长写作的学生们，肯定能说一口流利的英语。
写作被认为是语言学习中不可或缺的一部分。它需要学习者对语法、表达和句子结构等有很好的掌握。所以，试着用汉语写一些东西。你可以先写一个字、一个词、一个句子，然后写一段话。
有一天，当你给我写一封没有任何错误的电子邮件时，你就成功了。
上述提示有点笼统，但我相信它们会有所帮助。中文和英文有很大的不同，所以如果你在进一步学习中有任何问题，请发电子邮件给我interpreterkenny@qq.com. 我非常愿意帮忙。

Michael Neumann, studied Chinese & Linguistics at Dalarna University College

迈克尔·纽曼，在达拉纳大学学院学习汉语和语言学

There are plenty of great resources on the net that you can start with. Yangyang Chen is a great instructor. They have a youtube chanel which you could start with along with audio lessons.
The most important thing for you to learn in the beginning is the proper pronunciation of pinyin. You will use pinyin to start with and you can do that for a while before starting learning Characters. Chinese has not that many sounds but it is important to master them correctly. Yoyo Chinese has som great lessons about and you can find pinyin charts on the net. you will find some stuff that will help you later on.
ChinesPod is also a must if you wan to learn Chinese. They have beginner lessons you can start with right now up to very advanced stuff.
I studied Chinese one year by myself and listened to Yoyochinese and ChinesePod lessons every day during that time. I really love studying Chinese so I wanted to learn more so I took time off from my teaching job to study at University. I plan to take my Bachelor exam in Chinese next year. So studying Chinese is my dearest hobby right now and to be able to take my Chinese to a higher level I just moved to China.

网络上有很多很棒的资源，你可以从利用它们开始。陈阳阳是一位伟大的教练。他们有一个油管频道，你可以从它开始学习音频课程。
对你来说，最重要的是在开始学习拼音的正确发音。你可以先用拼音，然后再开始学习汉字。汉语没有那么多的发音，但正确掌握它们很重要。Yoyo中文有很多很好的课程，你可以在网上找到拼音图表。你会发现一些对你有帮助的东西。
如果你想学中文，ChinesPod 也是必须的。他们有入门课程，你可以从现在开始学习到非常高级的内容。
我自学了一年汉语，在那段时间里每天都听汉语课。我真的很喜欢学习中文，所以我想学习更多，所以我从教学工作中抽出时间去大学学习。我计划明年参加汉语学士考试。所以学习中文是我现在最喜欢的爱好，为了能把我的中文提高到一个更高的水平，我刚搬到中国。
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Zhang Hongyan
Chinese use Wechat a lot.You could find friends there.Chinese always would like to talk to English-speaking people，because they could practice their English at the same time.
I know a few English-speaking friends who live in China.
Those who are outgoing，talk on wechat，go out with China friends speak very good Mandarin.They could learn very fast.Because Chinese is a very complicated language.You could get confused easily if you don't talk to natives and find the differences.
Those who learn by themselves learn very slow.Even through they learn very hard.You need to use it when you learn new words.Otherwise，you will forget.

So find the people who you could speak Chinese with，and use it as much as you could.Even you only know 吃，you could use it a few times a day.

Hope this is useful for you.

中国人经常使用微信。你可以在那里找到朋友。中国人总是喜欢和说英语的人交谈，因为他们可以同时练习英语。
我认识几个住在中国的说英语的朋友。
那些外向的人，在微信上聊天，和中国朋友一起出去玩，他们的普通话说得很好，可以学得很快。因为汉语是一种非常复杂的语言。如果你不与当地人交谈并找出差异，你很容易感到困惑。
那些自学的人学得很慢。即使他们很努力学习。你需要在学习新单词时使用它。否则，你会忘记的。
所以，找一个会说汉语的人，尽可能多地使用汉语。即使你只知道吃这个词，你一天可以用几次。
希望这对你有用。

Ahpo Chen
Thank you for your invitation.
I think that no matter learning Chinese or Chinese characters, predecessors have summed up a set of effective methods.
Step 1: recite Mongolian classics
Teaching materials: Three Character Classic, thousand character text, Li Weng's rhyme, cautionary sage, etc.
This is similar to or even better than Chinese students learning English by memorizing English words first. Because these elementary classics not only provide students with word and word reserves, but also rhyme very well, and they are very catchy and interesting to read. You can even think of this behavior as singing and rap.
More importantly, these classics contain profound oriental philosophical thoughts, ways of thinking and principles of doing things, which is the soul of Chinese and Chinese characters. If we peel off this part to learn Chinese characters, Chinese will always look like God.
At the same time, these words, idioms, famous aphorisms can be used to show off, and can bring themselves the motivation to learn Chinese characters. For example, in a specific scene, there is a sentence: "Bao Jianfeng comes from sharpening, and plum blossom fragrance comes from bitter cold." then explain the meaning to the little partner in English. Is it very compelling? Is there an instant motivation to learn Chinese characters?
Step 2: learn grammar
Is to systematically learn the grammatical structure and logic of Chinese.
Generally speaking, let students feel the beauty of Chinese and Chinese characters first. This step is very important!

感谢您的邀请。
我觉得不管是学习汉语还是汉字，前人已经总结出了一套行之有效的方法。
第一步：吟诵蒙学经典
教材：《三字经》、《千字文》、《笠翁对韵》、《警世贤文》 等等。
这跟中国的学生学习英文先背英语单词有异曲同工之妙，甚至有过之而无不及。因为这些蒙学经典除了给学生提供字、词储备量之外还很押韵，诵读起来朗朗上口非常有趣。甚至你心里可以把这个行为当做是唱歌当做RAP来玩。
更重要的是，这些经典包含了深刻的东方哲学思想、思维方式、处事原则，这部分才是汉语和汉字的灵魂。如果剥离了这部分去学汉字、汉语则永远貌似而神不似。
同时，这些词语、成语、名言警句是可以用来显摆的，能够给自己带来学习汉语汉字的动力。例如在特定的场景冒出一句：“宝剑锋从磨砺出，梅花香自苦寒来。” 然后再用英文向小伙伴解释其中的含义，是不是很有逼格？ 是不是瞬间有了学习汉语汉字的动力？
第二步：学习语法
就是系统学习汉语的语法结构、逻辑。
总体来讲，就是首先让学生感受到汉语和汉字的美，这一步至关重要！