“几乎推销不出去”:英国脱欧导致学校赴英旅游锐减
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(A French operator received 53 requests for school visits to Ireland for 2022 and one for the UK.)
(一家法国运营商收到了53份2022年赴爱尔兰学校访问的请求,以及1份赴英国学校访问的请求。)
新闻:
‘Almost unsaleable’: slump in school trips to UK blamed on Brexit
-Groups from the continent are going elsewhere, tour operators say, deterred more by passport and visa rules than the pandemic
“几乎推销不出去”:英国脱欧导致学校赴英旅游锐减
——旅游运营商表示,来自欧洲大陆的旅行团正在前往其他地方,这更多是因为护照和签证规定,而不是疫情
-Groups from the continent are going elsewhere, tour operators say, deterred more by passport and visa rules than the pandemic
“几乎推销不出去”:英国脱欧导致学校赴英旅游锐减
——旅游运营商表示,来自欧洲大陆的旅行团正在前往其他地方,这更多是因为护照和签证规定,而不是疫情
(A French operator received 53 requests for school visits to Ireland for 2022 and one for the UK.)
(一家法国运营商收到了53份2022年赴爱尔兰学校访问的请求,以及1份赴英国学校访问的请求。)
新闻:
Post-Brexit changes to Britain’s immigration rules have triggered an unprecedented collapse in bookings for school trips from the continent, organisers say, with countries such as Ireland and the Netherlands now more popular than the UK.
旅游组织者表示,英国脱欧后对移民规定的修改,导致来自欧洲大陆的学校旅行预订出现了前所未有的暴跌,爱尔兰和荷兰等国家现在比英国更受欢迎。
旅游组织者表示,英国脱欧后对移民规定的修改,导致来自欧洲大陆的学校旅行预订出现了前所未有的暴跌,爱尔兰和荷兰等国家现在比英国更受欢迎。
While the pandemic has depressed European school travel in general, the number of short-stay educational visits planned in 2022 to alternative EU destinations where English is widely spoken is significantly higher than inquiries for UK visits.
尽管大流行总体上抑制了欧洲的学校旅行,但计划于2022年前往广泛使用英语的欧盟其他目的地的短期教育访问数量却明显高于前往英国的访问。
尽管大流行总体上抑制了欧洲的学校旅行,但计划于2022年前往广泛使用英语的欧盟其他目的地的短期教育访问数量却明显高于前往英国的访问。
Operators say that while Britain’s day two Covid test requirement is a factor, by far the most significant is the UK’s decision not to accept EU group passports or identity cards from 1 October, instead requiring full passports – plus expensive individual visas for non-EU pupils.
运营商表示,尽管英国对48小时核酸检测的要求是一个因素,但迄今为止最重要的是英国决定从10月1日起不再接受欧盟团体护照或身份证,而是要求正规护照,以及为非欧盟学生安排的高费用个人签证。
运营商表示,尽管英国对48小时核酸检测的要求是一个因素,但迄今为止最重要的是英国决定从10月1日起不再接受欧盟团体护照或身份证,而是要求正规护照,以及为非欧盟学生安排的高费用个人签证。
The British government has said the collapse is because of the pandemic and that the measures are needed “to strengthen the security of our border”, but critics say they are unnecessary for under-18s on short, organised trips with teachers.
英国政府曾表示,学校停课是因为新冠肺炎疫情,需要采取措施“加强边境安全”,但批评人士表示,对于18岁以下的学生和老师进行有组织的短期旅行,这些措施是没有必要的。
英国政府曾表示,学校停课是因为新冠肺炎疫情,需要采取措施“加强边境安全”,但批评人士表示,对于18岁以下的学生和老师进行有组织的短期旅行,这些措施是没有必要的。
They argue the slump will deprive UK host families, hostels and attractions of valuable income, and also inflict longer-term damage since school trips can prove formative experiences, promoting intercultural exchange and forging greater mutual understanding.
他们认为,学校旅行暴跌将使英国的寄宿家庭、青年旅社和景点失去宝贵的收入,同时也会造成长期的损害,因为学校旅行可以证明成长经验,促进跨文化交流和建立更大的相互理解。
他们认为,学校旅行暴跌将使英国的寄宿家庭、青年旅社和景点失去宝贵的收入,同时也会造成长期的损害,因为学校旅行可以证明成长经验,促进跨文化交流和建立更大的相互理解。
Eurovoyages, a big French school trips operator, said that as of last month it had received 53 requests for short-stay visits to Ireland next year, as well as others for the Netherlands, Poland, Germany, Austria and the Czech Republic.
法国大型学校旅行运营商Eurovoyages表示,截至上个月,该公司已收到53份明年前往爱尔兰的短期旅行申请,以及其他前往荷兰、波兰、德国、奥地利和捷克共和国的申请。
法国大型学校旅行运营商Eurovoyages表示,截至上个月,该公司已收到53份明年前往爱尔兰的短期旅行申请,以及其他前往荷兰、波兰、德国、奥地利和捷克共和国的申请。
“We have received precisely two requests for the UK, one of which has already changed its mind and decided to visit Ireland,” said Monique Tissot Martel, the company’s general manager. “Schools have forgotten the UK was a destination.”
该公司总经理莫尼克·蒂索·马特尔表示:“我们只收到了两份前往英国的申请,其中一份已经改变主意,决定前往爱尔兰。学校们已经忘记了英国曾经是一个留学目的地。”
该公司总经理莫尼克·蒂索·马特尔表示:“我们只收到了两份前往英国的申请,其中一份已经改变主意,决定前往爱尔兰。学校们已经忘记了英国曾经是一个留学目的地。”
Tissot Martel said that French schools wanting an English-speaking environment were even considering going to Normandy, where British host families and youth hostels with native speakers were offering immersive English stays.
蒂索·马特尔说,想要一个英语环境的法国学校们甚至考虑去诺曼底,因为那里有英国寄宿家庭和以英语为母语的青年旅社,能提供沉浸式的英语住宿。
蒂索·马特尔说,想要一个英语环境的法国学校们甚至考虑去诺曼底,因为那里有英国寄宿家庭和以英语为母语的青年旅社,能提供沉浸式的英语住宿。
“It is really a shame, as trips to the UK were very popular,” she said. “In 2019 we sent more than 11,000 students to the UK. Next year it will be between zero and 100.”
她说:“这真的很遗憾,因为去英国旅游非常受欢迎。2019年,我们向英国输送了11000多名学生。明年这个数字将在0到100之间。”
她说:“这真的很遗憾,因为去英国旅游非常受欢迎。2019年,我们向英国输送了11000多名学生。明年这个数字将在0到100之间。”
Peter Adam said his company, CTS Reisen in Lemgo, Germany, had sent more than 1,200 school groups and 37,000 pupils to the UK in 2019 but had had no firm bookings for 2022. About 80% of the company’s customers that regularly booked trips to the UK were choosing alternative destinations, he said.
彼得·亚当表示,他的公司——德国莱姆戈的CTS Reisen公司——在2019年向英国派出了1200多个学校团体和3.7万名学生,但还没有接到2022年的确切预约。他说,该公司定期预订英国行程的客户中,约有80%选择了其他目的地。
彼得·亚当表示,他的公司——德国莱姆戈的CTS Reisen公司——在2019年向英国派出了1200多个学校团体和3.7万名学生,但还没有接到2022年的确切预约。他说,该公司定期预订英国行程的客户中,约有80%选择了其他目的地。
“The majority see the UK as too difficult now,” Adam said. Covid-19 restrictions were not the problem, he added, “even if they are tougher in the UK than in other European countries”, and parents were “often prepared to pay the extra cost of obtaining a full passport instead of an EU identity card”.
亚当说:“大多数人认为英国现在太难了。”他补充说,对疫情的限制不是问题,“即使英国的限制比其他欧洲国家更严格”,但家长们“经常准备支付额外的费用,以获得一个完整的护照,而不是凭欧盟身份证”。
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亚当说:“大多数人认为英国现在太难了。”他补充说,对疫情的限制不是问题,“即使英国的限制比其他欧洲国家更严格”,但家长们“经常准备支付额外的费用,以获得一个完整的护照,而不是凭欧盟身份证”。
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The biggest issue was “the EU ‘list of travellers’ group passport, which is no longer valid for travelling to the UK”, he said. “About 4% of all pupils in Germany are not EU nationals. They can’t afford a visa. Teachers don’t like to leave them at home so are choosing other destinations”, such as Amsterdam or Copenhagen, he said.
他说,最大的问题在于“欧盟‘旅行团护照名单’,这对前往英国旅行不再有效了。”他说:“在德国,大约4%的学生不是欧盟公民。他们负担不起签证费用。老师们又不喜欢把孩子们留在家里,所以他们选择了其他目的地” ——比如阿姆斯特丹或哥本哈根。
他说,最大的问题在于“欧盟‘旅行团护照名单’,这对前往英国旅行不再有效了。”他说:“在德国,大约4%的学生不是欧盟公民。他们负担不起签证费用。老师们又不喜欢把孩子们留在家里,所以他们选择了其他目的地” ——比如阿姆斯特丹或哥本哈根。
In the UK, Susan Jones of LinguaStay, a UK homestay accommodation provider that usually welcomes 10,000 continental schoolchildren a year into about 300 host families in Chester, said the slump was “absolutely dramatic”.
在英国,英国寄宿服务提供商LinguaStay的苏珊·琼斯表示,学生人数锐减“绝对是急剧的”。该公司通常每年接待1万名来自欧洲大陆的学生,入住切斯特的约300个寄宿家庭。
在英国,英国寄宿服务提供商LinguaStay的苏珊·琼斯表示,学生人数锐减“绝对是急剧的”。该公司通常每年接待1万名来自欧洲大陆的学生,入住切斯特的约300个寄宿家庭。
Continental schools typically sent about a million pupils to the UK each year on organised trips, Jones said, with France and Germany alone accounting for 850,000. But for the February to June season, it was now clear that schools across the continent had “completely abandoned the UK for other countries”, she said.
琼斯说,欧洲大陆的学校每年通常会组织大约100万名学生到英国学习,仅法国和德国就有85万名学生。但她表示,就2月至6月的学习季而言,现在很明显,整个欧洲大陆的学校“完全放弃了英国,转向了其他国家”。
琼斯说,欧洲大陆的学校每年通常会组织大约100万名学生到英国学习,仅法国和德国就有85万名学生。但她表示,就2月至6月的学习季而言,现在很明显,整个欧洲大陆的学校“完全放弃了英国,转向了其他国家”。
“These children learn English staying in host families,” she said. “They mix with the local community, take part in workshops such as drama and cookery, have integration days at local schools and guided tours of cities and tourist attractions. They travel off peak, which helps many smaller UK towns and businesses outside peak season.”
她说:“这些孩子们在寄宿家庭学习英语。他们融入当地社区,参加戏剧和烹饪等讲习班,在当地学校举办融入日,并在城市和旅游景点有导游。他们在旺季以外旅行,这对许多英国小城镇和企业旺季之外的经营有帮助。”
她说:“这些孩子们在寄宿家庭学习英语。他们融入当地社区,参加戏剧和烹饪等讲习班,在当地学校举办融入日,并在城市和旅游景点有导游。他们在旺季以外旅行,这对许多英国小城镇和企业旺季之外的经营有帮助。”
Verdié Voyages, a French company that in 2019 sent 800 coachloads of schoolchildren to England, said it had received just 146 inquiries for UK trips next year, a fall of 80%. By contrast, inquiries for trips to Ireland were down only 40%.
法国公司Verdié Voyages在2019年向英国派遣了800辆客车的学生,该公司表示,它现在只收到了146个关于明年赴英国旅行的咨询,下降了80%。相比之下,对爱尔兰旅游的咨询仅下降了40%。
法国公司Verdié Voyages在2019年向英国派遣了800辆客车的学生,该公司表示,它现在只收到了146个关于明年赴英国旅行的咨询,下降了80%。相比之下,对爱尔兰旅游的咨询仅下降了40%。
“Requests are down for all destinations because of Covid,” said Marie Bayol, the company’s accommodation manager. The slump in interest for the UK “is due to Brexit, a second impact that makes our main destination almost unsaleable”, she said.
该公司的住宿经理玛丽·贝约尔表示:“由于新冠肺炎,所有目的地的预订都减少了。”她表示,对英国兴趣的下降“是由于英国脱欧,这是让我们的主要目的地几乎推销不出去的第二大影响”。
该公司的住宿经理玛丽·贝约尔表示:“由于新冠肺炎,所有目的地的预订都减少了。”她表示,对英国兴趣的下降“是由于英国脱欧,这是让我们的主要目的地几乎推销不出去的第二大影响”。
Edward Hisbergues of PG Trips, a French operator specialising in English-speaking countries, said that besides the passport and visa issue, business to the UK had fallen more sharply than elsewhere because of Britain’s day two test requirement.
专注于英语国家市场的法国运营商PG Trips的爱德华·希斯伯格表示,除了护照和签证问题外,由于英国的48小时核检要求,赴英业务降幅比其它地区都要大。
专注于英语国家市场的法国运营商PG Trips的爱德华·希斯伯格表示,除了护照和签证问题外,由于英国的48小时核检要求,赴英业务降幅比其它地区都要大。
His company normally books 80% of school trips to the UK and 20% to Ireland. “For next year it is more like 10% of requests for the UK and everything else is focused on Ireland, even though it is more expensive,” he said.
他的公司通常预定了80%的英国学校旅行和20%的爱尔兰学校旅行。他说:“明年,英国的申请比例可能会降到10%,其他的都集中在爱尔兰,尽管成本更高。”
他的公司通常预定了80%的英国学校旅行和20%的爱尔兰学校旅行。他说:“明年,英国的申请比例可能会降到10%,其他的都集中在爱尔兰,尽管成本更高。”
“You only need an EU identity card to travel there, for non-EU students the ‘list of travellers’ is still accepted, and as far as Covid is concerned the EU health pass is sufficient. People much prefer to pay a little more but not have all the UK constraints.”
“你只需要一张欧盟身份证就可以前往那里,对于非欧盟学生来说,‘旅行者名单’仍然被接受,就疫情而言,欧盟健康通行证就足够了。人们更愿意多支付一点钱,但不要受到英国所有的防疫限制。”
“你只需要一张欧盟身份证就可以前往那里,对于非欧盟学生来说,‘旅行者名单’仍然被接受,就疫情而言,欧盟健康通行证就足够了。人们更愿意多支付一点钱,但不要受到英国所有的防疫限制。”
Jones said the sector was pushing for EU nationals coming to the UK on organised short school trips to be allowed to enter with an ID card, and for non-EU nationals travelling with them to enter with just a passport. “It just seems such a small gesture compared to the benefits,” she said. “Not just the economic benefit, but the soft power.”
琼斯表示,该行业正在推动欧盟公民在有组织的短期学校旅行中进入英国时,允许持身份证入境,而与他们一起入境的非欧盟公民只需持护照入境。她说:“和它带来的好处相比,这似乎只是个小姿态。不仅事关经济利益,还有软实力。”
琼斯表示,该行业正在推动欧盟公民在有组织的短期学校旅行中进入英国时,允许持身份证入境,而与他们一起入境的非欧盟公民只需持护照入境。她说:“和它带来的好处相比,这似乎只是个小姿态。不仅事关经济利益,还有软实力。”
Morag Anderson of ETSUK, another British homestay company, said the government’s stance was shortsighted. “Give me a child at 12 years old on a school trip to the UK,” Anderson said, “and I give you a future higher education student, employee, researcher, entrepreneur, tourist – with family and friends … And a future parent, encouraging a future child to travel, work and study in the UK. Once this cycle is interrupted, there is no going back.”
另一家英国民宿公司ETSUK的莫拉格·安德森表示,政府的立场是短视的。安德森说:“给我孩子一个在12岁参加学校旅行去英国的机会,我会还给你一个未来的高等教育学生、雇员、研究员、企业家、游客——以及他们的家庭和朋友……。以及未来的,也会鼓励他们未来的孩子去英国旅行、工作和学习的父母。而一旦这个循环被打断,就再也回不去了。”
另一家英国民宿公司ETSUK的莫拉格·安德森表示,政府的立场是短视的。安德森说:“给我孩子一个在12岁参加学校旅行去英国的机会,我会还给你一个未来的高等教育学生、雇员、研究员、企业家、游客——以及他们的家庭和朋友……。以及未来的,也会鼓励他们未来的孩子去英国旅行、工作和学习的父母。而一旦这个循环被打断,就再也回不去了。”
评论翻译
iquitelikeit
One of the many ways in which Britain’s soft power is being continually diminished, by people who know the price of everything and the value of nothing.
There is value in children and students coming to the UK from nearby countries, to experience our way of life.
这是英国软实力不断被那些知道一切东西的价格、却不知道它们价值的人所削弱的诸多方面之一。
让来自周边国家的孩子和学生来到英国体验我们的生活方式,是有价值的。
One of the many ways in which Britain’s soft power is being continually diminished, by people who know the price of everything and the value of nothing.
There is value in children and students coming to the UK from nearby countries, to experience our way of life.
这是英国软实力不断被那些知道一切东西的价格、却不知道它们价值的人所削弱的诸多方面之一。
让来自周边国家的孩子和学生来到英国体验我们的生活方式,是有价值的。
Samtpfoten
I went on a school trip to London twenty years ago. Loved it. Came back to go to uni, met my husband, had a child, am now an academic. Yes, I do complain a lot about life here (such is German nature) but at the end of the day, I like it. The overall mentality suits me. Would have never known or dared to try without that trip.
二十年前,我参加了学校组织的去伦敦旅行。我喜欢它。回来上大学,认识了我的丈夫,有了孩子,现在是一名学者。是的,我确实对这里的生活抱怨很多(这是德国人的天性),但说到底,我喜欢这里。整体心态适合我。如果没有那次旅行,我永远也不会知道或不敢尝试。
I went on a school trip to London twenty years ago. Loved it. Came back to go to uni, met my husband, had a child, am now an academic. Yes, I do complain a lot about life here (such is German nature) but at the end of the day, I like it. The overall mentality suits me. Would have never known or dared to try without that trip.
二十年前,我参加了学校组织的去伦敦旅行。我喜欢它。回来上大学,认识了我的丈夫,有了孩子,现在是一名学者。是的,我确实对这里的生活抱怨很多(这是德国人的天性),但说到底,我喜欢这里。整体心态适合我。如果没有那次旅行,我永远也不会知道或不敢尝试。
ImpossibleBonk
Your way of life is inferior compared to other regions of Europe.
-Sincerely, a disgruntled Scandinavian on his 5th year in the UK
你们的生活方式比欧洲其他地区差。
——我说真的,来自一个在英国待了5年的不满的斯堪的纳维亚人
Your way of life is inferior compared to other regions of Europe.
-Sincerely, a disgruntled Scandinavian on his 5th year in the UK
你们的生活方式比欧洲其他地区差。
——我说真的,来自一个在英国待了5年的不满的斯堪的纳维亚人
AmbrosiusAurelianus1
Then why stay here?
那你为啥还呆在这里呢?
Then why stay here?
那你为啥还呆在这里呢?
ImpossibleBonk
Purely to bolster my academic career. After my degree, I'm out. I'm not wanted here anymore anyways
纯粹是为了支持我的学术事业。拿到学位后,我就会离开。反正这里也不需要我了
Purely to bolster my academic career. After my degree, I'm out. I'm not wanted here anymore anyways
纯粹是为了支持我的学术事业。拿到学位后,我就会离开。反正这里也不需要我了
AmbrosiusAurelianus1
Fair enough. Sorry that you feel unwelcome here, I hope your personal experience improves. Being somewhere foreign can be lonely and difficult at times but I hope you find some happiness. Try to stay open and friendly and seek out some different experiences and you may even enjoy yourself a bit in the end. Happy New Year!!
很合理。很遗憾你在这里感到不受欢迎,我希望你的个人经历有所改善。身处异国有时会感到孤独和困难,但我希望你能找到幸福。试着保持开放和友好,寻找一些不同的经历,你甚至可能会在最后时刻找到一些享受。新年快乐!!
Fair enough. Sorry that you feel unwelcome here, I hope your personal experience improves. Being somewhere foreign can be lonely and difficult at times but I hope you find some happiness. Try to stay open and friendly and seek out some different experiences and you may even enjoy yourself a bit in the end. Happy New Year!!
很合理。很遗憾你在这里感到不受欢迎,我希望你的个人经历有所改善。身处异国有时会感到孤独和困难,但我希望你能找到幸福。试着保持开放和友好,寻找一些不同的经历,你甚至可能会在最后时刻找到一些享受。新年快乐!!
ImpossibleBonk
Hey I really appreciate it, chap. In all honestly I love most English people. It's your country's politics and occasional oafs I loath. There's also something to be said for living standards, but this is probably exacerbated by me currently being a student, even if at the doctoral level. COVID has obviously also not helped.
Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year, let's hope for a better next year. Thanks for the kind words:)
嘿,我真的很感激,老兄。老实说,我喜欢大多数英国人。我讨厌的是你们国家的政治和偶尔出现的笨蛋。生活水平也有问题,但这可能因为我现在是一名学生所以加剧了,即使是博士级别的学生。疫情显然也没有起到任何帮助。
圣诞快乐,新年快乐,让我们期待下一年更美好。谢谢你的赞美:)
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Hey I really appreciate it, chap. In all honestly I love most English people. It's your country's politics and occasional oafs I loath. There's also something to be said for living standards, but this is probably exacerbated by me currently being a student, even if at the doctoral level. COVID has obviously also not helped.
Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year, let's hope for a better next year. Thanks for the kind words:)
嘿,我真的很感激,老兄。老实说,我喜欢大多数英国人。我讨厌的是你们国家的政治和偶尔出现的笨蛋。生活水平也有问题,但这可能因为我现在是一名学生所以加剧了,即使是博士级别的学生。疫情显然也没有起到任何帮助。
圣诞快乐,新年快乐,让我们期待下一年更美好。谢谢你的赞美:)
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Chip365
So the UK provided you with what you needed and couldn't get elsewhere? For 5 whole years. Can't have been that bad.
所以英国给你提供了你需要的,但无法从其他地方得到的东西,是吧?整整5年。不可能有你说得那么糟的。
So the UK provided you with what you needed and couldn't get elsewhere? For 5 whole years. Can't have been that bad.
所以英国给你提供了你需要的,但无法从其他地方得到的东西,是吧?整整5年。不可能有你说得那么糟的。
pantone13-0752
Speaking as a half-Brit who grew up in the EU, lived in 3 EU countries and now is stuck here for professional reasons, career and quality of life are two very different things. To be honest, I agree with the other comment that the UK way of life is simply not as good. Honestly, it's not even a competition. I stay here because it's good for my career, I eventually hope to leave and with way more hustling than would have been necessary elsewhere we've been able to make it work for us. But overall moving here was jarring for the immediate drop in quality of life.
The housing alone is a huge strike (by some miracle, we just managed to buy a really good new build this year - but it was one of the few houses in our city New or old we would have considered buying and in other countries we would have had our pick).
作为一个有一半英国血统的人,我在欧盟长大,在三个欧盟国家生活过,现在因为职业原因被困在这里,职业和生活质量完全是两码事。老实说,我同意另一个评论,即英国的生活方式根本没有那么好。老实说,这甚至没有可比性。我留在这里是因为这对我的职业生涯有好处,我最终希望离开这里,在这里要比在其他地方过下去需要更多的忙碌。但总体来说,搬到这里生活质量的下降令人不安。
单单房价就是一个巨大的打击(因为某种奇迹,我们今年成功地买了一栋非常好的新房子——但它是我们这个城市为数不多的几栋我们会考虑买的房子之一,无论是新房子还是旧房子,如果是在其他国家,我们自主挑选的范围会很大)。
Speaking as a half-Brit who grew up in the EU, lived in 3 EU countries and now is stuck here for professional reasons, career and quality of life are two very different things. To be honest, I agree with the other comment that the UK way of life is simply not as good. Honestly, it's not even a competition. I stay here because it's good for my career, I eventually hope to leave and with way more hustling than would have been necessary elsewhere we've been able to make it work for us. But overall moving here was jarring for the immediate drop in quality of life.
The housing alone is a huge strike (by some miracle, we just managed to buy a really good new build this year - but it was one of the few houses in our city New or old we would have considered buying and in other countries we would have had our pick).
作为一个有一半英国血统的人,我在欧盟长大,在三个欧盟国家生活过,现在因为职业原因被困在这里,职业和生活质量完全是两码事。老实说,我同意另一个评论,即英国的生活方式根本没有那么好。老实说,这甚至没有可比性。我留在这里是因为这对我的职业生涯有好处,我最终希望离开这里,在这里要比在其他地方过下去需要更多的忙碌。但总体来说,搬到这里生活质量的下降令人不安。
单单房价就是一个巨大的打击(因为某种奇迹,我们今年成功地买了一栋非常好的新房子——但它是我们这个城市为数不多的几栋我们会考虑买的房子之一,无论是新房子还是旧房子,如果是在其他国家,我们自主挑选的范围会很大)。
calvers70
the UK way of life is simply not as good. Honestly, it's not even a competition
Maybe I'm just blissfully ignorant having not lived in any other country, but I just can't imagine how a human existence could get much nicer than my life. And I'm just a pretty typical middle-class northerner.
Not discounting your experience either, just pointing out the subjectivity. I actually find it a bit overwhelming how idyllic and wonderful so many aspects of my life in the UK are. Despite all the Brexit, Covid etc I really love this country. I'm sorry that your experience hasn't been the same
“英国的生活方式根本没有那么好。老实说,这甚至没有可比性”
也许我只是幸福的无知,没有在任何其他国家生活过,但我只是无法想象一个人的生活能比我的生活好得多。我只是一个典型的北方中产阶级。
也不是贬低你的经历,只是指出了你的主观性。我在英国生活的很多方面都是如此的田园诗般的美好,这让我有点不知所措。尽管英国脱欧,新冠肺炎等等,我真的很爱这个国家。我很遗憾你的经历和我不一样
the UK way of life is simply not as good. Honestly, it's not even a competition
Maybe I'm just blissfully ignorant having not lived in any other country, but I just can't imagine how a human existence could get much nicer than my life. And I'm just a pretty typical middle-class northerner.
Not discounting your experience either, just pointing out the subjectivity. I actually find it a bit overwhelming how idyllic and wonderful so many aspects of my life in the UK are. Despite all the Brexit, Covid etc I really love this country. I'm sorry that your experience hasn't been the same
“英国的生活方式根本没有那么好。老实说,这甚至没有可比性”
也许我只是幸福的无知,没有在任何其他国家生活过,但我只是无法想象一个人的生活能比我的生活好得多。我只是一个典型的北方中产阶级。
也不是贬低你的经历,只是指出了你的主观性。我在英国生活的很多方面都是如此的田园诗般的美好,这让我有点不知所措。尽管英国脱欧,新冠肺炎等等,我真的很爱这个国家。我很遗憾你的经历和我不一样
stroopwafel666
To be fair it’s massively dependent on what you are used to and what you want. I’ve moved to the Netherlands and if you want to live in an urban area it’s just undeniably better in every way, plus services like healthcare are way better. But I seriously miss English rural life sometimes - there’s nowhere better to live in a small village and have access to such beautiful landscape.
平心而论,这很大程度上取决于你习惯什么和你想要什么。我搬到了荷兰,如果你想住在城市地区,那么毫无疑问在各个方面都比在英国更好,而且医疗等服务也更好。但有时我真的很想念英国的乡村生活——没有什么地方比住在一个小村庄,享受如此美丽的风景更好的了。
To be fair it’s massively dependent on what you are used to and what you want. I’ve moved to the Netherlands and if you want to live in an urban area it’s just undeniably better in every way, plus services like healthcare are way better. But I seriously miss English rural life sometimes - there’s nowhere better to live in a small village and have access to such beautiful landscape.
平心而论,这很大程度上取决于你习惯什么和你想要什么。我搬到了荷兰,如果你想住在城市地区,那么毫无疑问在各个方面都比在英国更好,而且医疗等服务也更好。但有时我真的很想念英国的乡村生活——没有什么地方比住在一个小村庄,享受如此美丽的风景更好的了。
MuddaFrmAnnudaBrudda
We've really let the foolish stink up the UK with the ridiculous. That person who you would hear spouting racism and talking complete and utter nonsense about council housing in the pub is now shaping policy.
From what I can gather, we don't need Tourism and we don't need to be Tourists. We don't need banking and we don't need any Professionals who are not from the UK. We don't need non English carers and we don't need non-English doctors.
What we do need is someone to sink the boats of Refugees, so that they cannot reach our golden shores. It's only a matter of time until young people leave via mass Exodus for other countries, as we sink further into the sewer.
我们真的让愚蠢的人和荒谬的人搅乱了英国。你会听到那个大谈种族主义,谈论关于在酒吧里安置住房无稽之谈的人,他现在正在制定政策。
据我所知,(在他看来)我们不需要旅游业,我们也不需要成为游客。我们不需要银行,我们不需要任何不是来自英国的专业人士。我们不需要非英语国家的护理人员,也不需要非英语国家的医生。
我们需要的是有人把难民的船弄沉,这样他们就无法到达我们的黄金海岸。随着我们进一步陷入下水道,年轻人大批离开,前往其他国家只是时间问题。
We've really let the foolish stink up the UK with the ridiculous. That person who you would hear spouting racism and talking complete and utter nonsense about council housing in the pub is now shaping policy.
From what I can gather, we don't need Tourism and we don't need to be Tourists. We don't need banking and we don't need any Professionals who are not from the UK. We don't need non English carers and we don't need non-English doctors.
What we do need is someone to sink the boats of Refugees, so that they cannot reach our golden shores. It's only a matter of time until young people leave via mass Exodus for other countries, as we sink further into the sewer.
我们真的让愚蠢的人和荒谬的人搅乱了英国。你会听到那个大谈种族主义,谈论关于在酒吧里安置住房无稽之谈的人,他现在正在制定政策。
据我所知,(在他看来)我们不需要旅游业,我们也不需要成为游客。我们不需要银行,我们不需要任何不是来自英国的专业人士。我们不需要非英语国家的护理人员,也不需要非英语国家的医生。
我们需要的是有人把难民的船弄沉,这样他们就无法到达我们的黄金海岸。随着我们进一步陷入下水道,年轻人大批离开,前往其他国家只是时间问题。
jumbleparkin
That's about the size of it, and it can't be fixed without changing the mentality of half of UK society.
问题在于问题的规模,如果不改变英国社会一半人的心态,问题就无法解决。
That's about the size of it, and it can't be fixed without changing the mentality of half of UK society.
问题在于问题的规模,如果不改变英国社会一半人的心态,问题就无法解决。
HarrysGardenShed
This was the whole point of brexit, wasn’t it? To keep all them nasty forrins out. Seems like it’s working.
这就是脱欧的意义所在,不是吗?把他们挡在外面。看起来很有效。
This was the whole point of brexit, wasn’t it? To keep all them nasty forrins out. Seems like it’s working.
这就是脱欧的意义所在,不是吗?把他们挡在外面。看起来很有效。
RemysBoyToy
What's the average tourist to the UK doing for someone who lives in somewhere like Rochdale and hasn't been able to leave the UK their whole life due to finances?
对于那些住在罗奇代尔这样的地方,一辈子都因为经济原因无法离开英国的人来说,去英国的普通游客有什么贡献呢?
What's the average tourist to the UK doing for someone who lives in somewhere like Rochdale and hasn't been able to leave the UK their whole life due to finances?
对于那些住在罗奇代尔这样的地方,一辈子都因为经济原因无法离开英国的人来说,去英国的普通游客有什么贡献呢?
Cup-of-tea626
By spending money in the UK they help fund UK taxes through VAT and the income taxes of British people employed in the tourism sector.
通过在英国花钱,他们通过增值税和在旅游产业工作的英国人的所得税为英国税收提供了资金。
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By spending money in the UK they help fund UK taxes through VAT and the income taxes of British people employed in the tourism sector.
通过在英国花钱,他们通过增值税和在旅游产业工作的英国人的所得税为英国税收提供了资金。
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HarrysGardenShed
A figure of envy? I don’t know, I don’t have their mindset.
成为嫉妒的对象吗?我不知道,我猜不到他们的心态。
A figure of envy? I don’t know, I don’t have their mindset.
成为嫉妒的对象吗?我不知道,我猜不到他们的心态。
RemysBoyToy
Right well rather than just critising everyone who doesn't agree with you (and this isnt just aimed at you), maybe it's time you consider why other people feel the way they do about these things.
好吧,与其指责每个不赞同你的人(这并不只是针对你),也许你是时候考虑一下为什么其他人都会有这样的感觉了。
Right well rather than just critising everyone who doesn't agree with you (and this isnt just aimed at you), maybe it's time you consider why other people feel the way they do about these things.
好吧,与其指责每个不赞同你的人(这并不只是针对你),也许你是时候考虑一下为什么其他人都会有这样的感觉了。
HarrysGardenShed
They seem to be blaming the wrong people. It’s like seeing someone I don’t know with a nicer car than mine and blaming them because I’ve got a shitty Vauxhall Corsa. Where’s the logic?
他们似乎指责错了人。就好像因为我开的是辆烂车,所以看到一个我不认识的人开着一辆比我的好车就指责他们。逻辑何在?
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They seem to be blaming the wrong people. It’s like seeing someone I don’t know with a nicer car than mine and blaming them because I’ve got a shitty Vauxhall Corsa. Where’s the logic?
他们似乎指责错了人。就好像因为我开的是辆烂车,所以看到一个我不认识的人开着一辆比我的好车就指责他们。逻辑何在?
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dratsaab
I'm looking forward to people who have not read the article blaming COVID rather than Brexit.
我期待看到那些没有读过这篇文章,然后指责新冠肺炎而不是英国脱欧的人。
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I'm looking forward to people who have not read the article blaming COVID rather than Brexit.
我期待看到那些没有读过这篇文章,然后指责新冠肺炎而不是英国脱欧的人。
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gdawg5533
The article says that covid literally is a factor, how much of one and the other is impossible to say.
这篇文章说,新冠病毒确实是一个因素,在多大程度上是一个因素,还很难说。
The article says that covid literally is a factor, how much of one and the other is impossible to say.
这篇文章说,新冠病毒确实是一个因素,在多大程度上是一个因素,还很难说。
TalshereLapsed Tory
I mean. Yeah. To an extent. But only because the EU "sort of" kept internal travel during some of the pandemic. Which it's not clear would have happened anyway if we'd be in the EU because we were never part of the travel area.
我想说。没错。在某种程度上。但这只是因为在疫情期间,欧盟“某种程度上”保持了内部旅行。就算我们是欧盟成员国,这一切会不会发生也不好说,因为我们从来都不是旅行区的一部分。
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I mean. Yeah. To an extent. But only because the EU "sort of" kept internal travel during some of the pandemic. Which it's not clear would have happened anyway if we'd be in the EU because we were never part of the travel area.
我想说。没错。在某种程度上。但这只是因为在疫情期间,欧盟“某种程度上”保持了内部旅行。就算我们是欧盟成员国,这一切会不会发生也不好说,因为我们从来都不是旅行区的一部分。
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NowoToneEuropean unx (Germany)
My older son was set to go to the UK next year. He was really looking forward using his British passport, but the trip got cancelled 3 weeks ago, pretty much for the reason stated in the article: - most of his classmates don’t have a passport because for most travel within Europe ( not just the EU) you don’t need one.
Not to worry, though, as they are going to Ireland instead. The higher cost of transport there is offset by the cheaper cost of accommodation. Plus there’s no hassle with passports or visas, everyone can join.
我的大儿子准备明年去英国。他真的很想用他的英国护照,但是这次旅行在3周前被取消了,主要是因为文章中提到的原因:他的大多数同学都没有护照,因为大多数在欧洲(不仅仅是欧盟)的旅行都不需要护照。
不过不用担心,因为他们将去爱尔兰。那里较高的交通费用被较便宜的住宿费用抵消了。此外,没有护照或签证的麻烦,每个人都可以参加。
My older son was set to go to the UK next year. He was really looking forward using his British passport, but the trip got cancelled 3 weeks ago, pretty much for the reason stated in the article: - most of his classmates don’t have a passport because for most travel within Europe ( not just the EU) you don’t need one.
Not to worry, though, as they are going to Ireland instead. The higher cost of transport there is offset by the cheaper cost of accommodation. Plus there’s no hassle with passports or visas, everyone can join.
我的大儿子准备明年去英国。他真的很想用他的英国护照,但是这次旅行在3周前被取消了,主要是因为文章中提到的原因:他的大多数同学都没有护照,因为大多数在欧洲(不仅仅是欧盟)的旅行都不需要护照。
不过不用担心,因为他们将去爱尔兰。那里较高的交通费用被较便宜的住宿费用抵消了。此外,没有护照或签证的麻烦,每个人都可以参加。
deepfi3ld
Sad to hear. My first trip to the UK was in 2000 with my school. We stayed for 3 weeks in the Southwest of the country and London.
Lovely place and fond memories. It really endeared Britain and the British people to me. My host family were saints. A grizzled old ww2 veteran and his loving housewife. Kids were already grown up and out of the house. We used to talk until late into the night and he will tell me stories of ww2. Was an interesting dynamic because me and the other guy who were staying with them were German. He used to tell me how happy he was that instead of bombs we would be sending each other our children while showing me his wound from a German rifle ricochet.
Ate the best Fish & Chips in Plymouth! Unforgettable. Heartfelt greetings and best wishes from Germany.
遗憾的消息。我第一次去英国是在2000年,和我的学校一起去的。我们在英国西南部和伦敦呆了三个星期。
可爱的地方,美好的回忆。我非常喜欢英国和英国人民。我的寄宿家庭是很高尚的人。一个头发斑白的二战老兵和他可爱的家庭主妇。孩子们已经长大,离开了家。我们经常聊到深夜,他会给我讲二战的故事。这是一个有趣的互动,因为我和另一个和他们住在一起的人是德国人。他曾经告诉我,他是多么高兴,因为我们可以互相送孩子,而不是炸弹,同时让我看他被德国步枪弹射伤的伤口。
我吃了普利茅斯最好的炸鱼薯条!难忘。来自德国的衷心的问候和良好的祝愿。
Sad to hear. My first trip to the UK was in 2000 with my school. We stayed for 3 weeks in the Southwest of the country and London.
Lovely place and fond memories. It really endeared Britain and the British people to me. My host family were saints. A grizzled old ww2 veteran and his loving housewife. Kids were already grown up and out of the house. We used to talk until late into the night and he will tell me stories of ww2. Was an interesting dynamic because me and the other guy who were staying with them were German. He used to tell me how happy he was that instead of bombs we would be sending each other our children while showing me his wound from a German rifle ricochet.
Ate the best Fish & Chips in Plymouth! Unforgettable. Heartfelt greetings and best wishes from Germany.
遗憾的消息。我第一次去英国是在2000年,和我的学校一起去的。我们在英国西南部和伦敦呆了三个星期。
可爱的地方,美好的回忆。我非常喜欢英国和英国人民。我的寄宿家庭是很高尚的人。一个头发斑白的二战老兵和他可爱的家庭主妇。孩子们已经长大,离开了家。我们经常聊到深夜,他会给我讲二战的故事。这是一个有趣的互动,因为我和另一个和他们住在一起的人是德国人。他曾经告诉我,他是多么高兴,因为我们可以互相送孩子,而不是炸弹,同时让我看他被德国步枪弹射伤的伤口。
我吃了普利茅斯最好的炸鱼薯条!难忘。来自德国的衷心的问候和良好的祝愿。
MrPuddington2
The fact is that it is much harder and more expensive to get visas for EU citizens (around 100 Euro, plus several hours of time), and virtually impossible to get visas for non-EU citizens (500 Euros and several days of effort). Most classes will have a range of different citizens, and the total cost is just too high.
事实上,欧盟公民获得签证的难度和费用要高得多(大约100欧元,外加几个小时的时间),而非欧盟公民几乎不可能获得签证(500欧元和几天的手续)。大多数班级将有一系列不同身份的公民,总成本太高了。
The fact is that it is much harder and more expensive to get visas for EU citizens (around 100 Euro, plus several hours of time), and virtually impossible to get visas for non-EU citizens (500 Euros and several days of effort). Most classes will have a range of different citizens, and the total cost is just too high.
事实上,欧盟公民获得签证的难度和费用要高得多(大约100欧元,外加几个小时的时间),而非欧盟公民几乎不可能获得签证(500欧元和几天的手续)。大多数班级将有一系列不同身份的公民,总成本太高了。
Oscar_Wildes_Dildo
As a German citizen I now need to apply for a passport to go over there. That’s 81€ extra for a document I will realistically use once. I mostly travel to Italy and Spain and Greece on holiday.
作为德国公民,我现在需要申请护照才能去那里。那是一笔81欧元额外开销的证件,而我将只实际使用一次。我假期大多去意大利、西班牙和希腊。
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As a German citizen I now need to apply for a passport to go over there. That’s 81€ extra for a document I will realistically use once. I mostly travel to Italy and Spain and Greece on holiday.
作为德国公民,我现在需要申请护照才能去那里。那是一笔81欧元额外开销的证件,而我将只实际使用一次。我假期大多去意大利、西班牙和希腊。
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chris-zaEU, AU and Commonwealth
Passports and visas is an issue (keep in mind, that under 25 year old passports are only valid for 5 years, older folks is 10 years , making it more cost effective. The price is the same) So the average, middle class family isn't going to have passports for their kids.
And then, the UK has an extremely bad track record regarding COVID. It's regularly put under quarantine due to infections spiralling out of control. Why would you send your kids to a place like that?
护照和签证是一个问题(记住,25岁以下的护照有效期只有5年,老年人的护照有效期是10年,这使得护照更划算。二者价格是一样的),所以一般的中产阶级家庭不会给他们的孩子办护照。
此外,英国在抗疫方面的记录非常糟糕。由于感染失控,它经常被隔离。你干吗要把自己孩子送去那种地方呢?
Passports and visas is an issue (keep in mind, that under 25 year old passports are only valid for 5 years, older folks is 10 years , making it more cost effective. The price is the same) So the average, middle class family isn't going to have passports for their kids.
And then, the UK has an extremely bad track record regarding COVID. It's regularly put under quarantine due to infections spiralling out of control. Why would you send your kids to a place like that?
护照和签证是一个问题(记住,25岁以下的护照有效期只有5年,老年人的护照有效期是10年,这使得护照更划算。二者价格是一样的),所以一般的中产阶级家庭不会给他们的孩子办护照。
此外,英国在抗疫方面的记录非常糟糕。由于感染失控,它经常被隔离。你干吗要把自己孩子送去那种地方呢?
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