生活成本危机：英国失业救济金价值出现50年来最大降幅
正文翻译
(Prices of basic essentials, from food to fuel, are soaring.)
（从食品到燃料等基本必需品的价格正在飙升。）
新闻：
Cost of living crisis: Value of UK unemployment benefits see biggest fall in 50 years
-Scheduled 3.1% rise in state pension and benefits fails to keep up with 8% hike in prices of essentials and energy
生活成本危机：英国失业救济金价值出现50年来最大降幅
——国家养老金和福利计划上调3.1%，但未能跟上生活必需品和能源价格8%的涨幅
-Scheduled 3.1% rise in state pension and benefits fails to keep up with 8% hike in prices of essentials and energy
生活成本危机：英国失业救济金价值出现50年来最大降幅
——国家养老金和福利计划上调3.1%，但未能跟上生活必需品和能源价格8%的涨幅
(Prices of basic essentials, from food to fuel, are soaring.)
（从食品到燃料等基本必需品的价格正在飙升。）
新闻：
Claimants of unemployment benefits will see the biggest fall in the value of their payments in 50 years on Monday, anti-poverty campaigners have said, as Britons grapple with the worst cost of living crisis since 1972.
反贫困运动人士称，周一，英国将迎来自1972年以来最严重的生活成本危机，申领失业救济金的人将面临50年来最大幅度的收入下降。
反贫困运动人士称，周一，英国将迎来自1972年以来最严重的生活成本危机，申领失业救济金的人将面临50年来最大幅度的收入下降。
Despite everyday prices rising as much as 8%, and gas and electricity bills almost doubling to £2,000 a year, the state pension and most other state benefits will rise by 3.1% on Monday.
尽管日常物价上涨高达8%，天然气和电费几乎翻了一番，达到每年2000英镑，但国家养老金和大多数其他国家福利将在周一只上涨3.1%。
尽管日常物价上涨高达8%，天然气和电费几乎翻了一番，达到每年2000英镑，但国家养老金和大多数其他国家福利将在周一只上涨3.1%。
Charities, Labour and others have called on the chancellor, Rishi Sunak, to do more to help those on middle and low incomes get through the crisis.
慈善机构、工党和其他人都呼吁财政大臣里希·苏纳克采取更多措施帮助中低收入人群度过危机。
慈善机构、工党和其他人都呼吁财政大臣里希·苏纳克采取更多措施帮助中低收入人群度过危机。
So far ministers have resisted calls to restore the £20-a-week uplift to universal credit that was introduced during the pandemic but then removed just as prices started rising dramatically last autumn.
到目前为止，大臣们一直抵制恢复每周20英镑的普遍信贷上调的呼吁。这种上调是在疫情期间引入的，但在去年秋季价格开始大幅上涨时取消了。
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到目前为止，大臣们一直抵制恢复每周20英镑的普遍信贷上调的呼吁。这种上调是在疫情期间引入的，但在去年秋季价格开始大幅上涨时取消了。
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The money-saving expert Martin Lewis said on Sunday that the UK could experience “civil unrest” later this year if the government fails to take decisive action.
省钱专家马丁·刘易斯周日表示，如果政府不采取果断行动，英国可能在今年晚些时候经历“内乱”。
省钱专家马丁·刘易斯周日表示，如果政府不采取果断行动，英国可能在今年晚些时候经历“内乱”。
Ministers announced in November that the state pension, universal credit and a host of other benefits would rise by 3.1%. The figure was calculated according to the consumer price index (CPI) for the year up to September 2021.
大臣们在11月宣布，国家养老金、全民信贷和一系列其他救济金将增长3.1%。这一数字是根据截至2021年9月的一年消费者价格指数（CPI）计算出来的。
大臣们在11月宣布，国家养老金、全民信贷和一系列其他救济金将增长3.1%。这一数字是根据截至2021年9月的一年消费者价格指数（CPI）计算出来的。
The increase means that the basic state pension will rise by £4.25 to £141.85 per week, while the full new state pension will rise by £5.55 to £185.15.
这意味着基本国家养老金每周将增加4.25英镑，至141.85英镑，而全新的国家养老金将增加5.55英镑，至185.15英镑。
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这意味着基本国家养老金每周将增加4.25英镑，至141.85英镑，而全新的国家养老金将增加5.55英镑，至185.15英镑。
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A single person aged 25 will see their universal credit allowance rise from £324.84 to £334.91 per month, totalling £4,019 a year. Child benefit rises 68p per week for the eldest child.
25岁的单身人士每月的通用信贷补贴将从324.84英镑增加到334.91英镑，全年共计4019英镑。年龄最大的孩子的儿童津贴每周增加68便士。
25岁的单身人士每月的通用信贷补贴将从324.84英镑增加到334.91英镑，全年共计4019英镑。年龄最大的孩子的儿童津贴每周增加68便士。
However, since September the price of most essentials has rocketed. According to the latest UK economic outlook report from PwC, British households are set to be £900 worse off this year in a “historic fall” in living standards. It found that inflation will hit 8.4% later this year.
然而，自9月以来，大多数生活必需品的价格已经飙升。普华永道最新的英国经济展望报告显示，由于生活水平出现“历史性下降”，英国家庭今年的生活水平将减少900英镑。它发现今年晚些时候通货膨胀将达到8.4%。
然而，自9月以来，大多数生活必需品的价格已经飙升。普华永道最新的英国经济展望报告显示，由于生活水平出现“历史性下降”，英国家庭今年的生活水平将减少900英镑。它发现今年晚些时候通货膨胀将达到8.4%。
Helen Barnard, the associate director of the Joseph Rowntree Foundation, an anti-poverty group, told Sky News that benefits claimants had seen the value of payments fall in real terms in eight out of the last 10 years. “It means that in terms of their values, how much bread and milk you can buy in the shops, it is the biggest fall in value since 1972.”
海伦·巴纳德，约瑟夫·朗特里基金会（一个反贫困组织）的副主任，告诉《天空新闻》说，在过去的10年里，领取救济金的人发现，按实际价值计算，在过去的10年里，有8年的时间，救济金的价值在下降。“这意味着，就它们的价值而言——你可以在商店里买到多少面包和牛奶，这是自1972年以来价值的最大跌幅。”
海伦·巴纳德，约瑟夫·朗特里基金会（一个反贫困组织）的副主任，告诉《天空新闻》说，在过去的10年里，领取救济金的人发现，按实际价值计算，在过去的10年里，有8年的时间，救济金的价值在下降。“这意味着，就它们的价值而言——你可以在商店里买到多少面包和牛奶，这是自1972年以来价值的最大跌幅。”
She added: “We know the majority of people in poverty now are in working households. One of the problems is that too many jobs are not just low paid, but they’re insecure – you don’t know what money you’re getting one week to the next, you don’t get sick pay; you don’t get protection if something goes wrong. People are struggling to afford the basic essentials and having to rely on charities for toothpaste and toilet rolls. It’s humiliating for a lot of people.”
她补充说：“我们知道，大多数贫困人口现在都是工薪家庭。其中一个问题是，太多的工作不仅是低薪的，而且是不稳定的——你不知道下一周你能拿到多少钱，你没有病假工资；如果出了问题，你就得不到保护了。人们正在努力支付基本生活必需品，不得不依靠慈善机构提供牙膏和卫生纸。对很多人来说，这是一种耻辱。”
她补充说：“我们知道，大多数贫困人口现在都是工薪家庭。其中一个问题是，太多的工作不仅是低薪的，而且是不稳定的——你不知道下一周你能拿到多少钱，你没有病假工资；如果出了问题，你就得不到保护了。人们正在努力支付基本生活必需品，不得不依靠慈善机构提供牙膏和卫生纸。对很多人来说，这是一种耻辱。”
Jonathan Ashworth, the shadow work and pensions secretary, said Sunak had imposed the deepest real-terms cut to the state pension in 50 years and a second deep cut to universal credit in six months.
影子工作和养老金大臣乔纳森·阿什沃斯表示，苏纳克对国家养老金实施了50年来最大幅度的实际削减，并在6个月内第二次大幅削减全民信贷。
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影子工作和养老金大臣乔纳森·阿什沃斯表示，苏纳克对国家养老金实施了50年来最大幅度的实际削减，并在6个月内第二次大幅削减全民信贷。
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“These severe real term cuts are a direct consequence of his point-blank refusal to take into account current price rises in setting rates,” he said. “His decision will help push an extra 1.3 million people including 500,000 children into absolute poverty. It’s now clearer than ever that the working people, disabled people and pensioners are worse off under the Tories.”
他表示：“这些严重的实际利率下调，是他在设定利率时直接拒绝考虑当前物价上涨的直接后果。他的决定将使包括50万儿童在内的130万人陷入赤贫。现在比以往任何时候都更清楚，在保守党的领导下，工人、残疾人和领取养老金的人的境况更糟。”
他表示：“这些严重的实际利率下调，是他在设定利率时直接拒绝考虑当前物价上涨的直接后果。他的决定将使包括50万儿童在内的130万人陷入赤贫。现在比以往任何时候都更清楚，在保守党的领导下，工人、残疾人和领取养老金的人的境况更糟。”
A government spokesperson said: “We recognise the pressures people are facing with the cost of living, which is why we’re providing support worth £22bn across the next financial year and, as was approved by parliament, benefits are being uprated by the usual measure, September’s inflation figure.
一位政府发言人表示：“我们认识到人们在生活成本方面面临的压力，这就是为什么我们将在下一个财政年度提供价值220亿英镑的支持。正如议会批准的那样，救济金将根据通常的衡量标准——9月份的通胀数据而提高。
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一位政府发言人表示：“我们认识到人们在生活成本方面面临的压力，这就是为什么我们将在下一个财政年度提供价值220亿英镑的支持。正如议会批准的那样，救济金将根据通常的衡量标准——9月份的通胀数据而提高。
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“Our package of support includes putting an average of £1,000 more per year into the pockets of working families via changes to universal credit, cutting fuel duty and helping households with their energy bills. We have also boosted the minimum wage by more than £1,000 a year for full-time workers and are raising national insurance thresholds so people keep more of what they earn.”
“我们的一揽子支持方案包括通过改变全民信贷，降低燃油税，帮助家庭解决能源账单，平均每年增加1000英镑的收入。我们还将全职工人的最低工资提高了1000英镑以上，并提高了国民保险门槛，这样人们就能保留更多的收入。”
“我们的一揽子支持方案包括通过改变全民信贷，降低燃油税，帮助家庭解决能源账单，平均每年增加1000英镑的收入。我们还将全职工人的最低工资提高了1000英镑以上，并提高了国民保险门槛，这样人们就能保留更多的收入。”
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weaslewig
Had the bbc news on this morning and was surprised how hard they were going in on the government. Laying this economic crisis clearly at the feet of the tories.
看了今天早上的BBC新闻，很惊讶他们在多么努力地抨击政府。把这场经济危机明显归咎于保守党。
Had the bbc news on this morning and was surprised how hard they were going in on the government. Laying this economic crisis clearly at the feet of the tories.
看了今天早上的BBC新闻，很惊讶他们在多么努力地抨击政府。把这场经济危机明显归咎于保守党。
Not_A_Clever_Man_
Lots of people don't pay attention to politics until it affects them. Suddenly pensioners and the middle class has noticed a large shift in their living conditions. When your energy bill doubles and the government tells you to fuck off and not be poor, people take notice. Especially when pensioners and the middle class suddenly realise the party they voted for is only structured to benefit donors to the tory party.
It's a tough pill to swallow realising the ruling party of the UK is corrupt.
很多人不关注政治，直到它影响到了他们。突然间，退休人员和中产阶级注意到他们生活条件的巨大变化。当你的能源账单翻倍，政府告诉你滚蛋，不要穷的时候，人们才注意到。尤其是当退休人员和中产阶级突然意识到，他们投票支持的政党，只是为了让保守党的捐款人受益时。
意识到英国执政党的腐败，真是让人难以下咽。
Lots of people don't pay attention to politics until it affects them. Suddenly pensioners and the middle class has noticed a large shift in their living conditions. When your energy bill doubles and the government tells you to fuck off and not be poor, people take notice. Especially when pensioners and the middle class suddenly realise the party they voted for is only structured to benefit donors to the tory party.
It's a tough pill to swallow realising the ruling party of the UK is corrupt.
很多人不关注政治，直到它影响到了他们。突然间，退休人员和中产阶级注意到他们生活条件的巨大变化。当你的能源账单翻倍，政府告诉你滚蛋，不要穷的时候，人们才注意到。尤其是当退休人员和中产阶级突然意识到，他们投票支持的政党，只是为了让保守党的捐款人受益时。
意识到英国执政党的腐败，真是让人难以下咽。
KittyGrewAMoustache
I can’t believe it’s taken people this long to realise it. The word Tory literally comes from an Irish word meaning thief. It’s in their fucking name and they’re proud of it!
真不敢相信人们花了这么久才意识到这一点。“保守”这个词的字面意思就是“小偷”。这就是他们的cao蛋名字，他们很自豪！
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I can’t believe it’s taken people this long to realise it. The word Tory literally comes from an Irish word meaning thief. It’s in their fucking name and they’re proud of it!
真不敢相信人们花了这么久才意识到这一点。“保守”这个词的字面意思就是“小偷”。这就是他们的cao蛋名字，他们很自豪！
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Not_A_Clever_Man_
I moved to Scotland a few years ago. They still remember the damage thatcher did to the country. The tories are setting themselves up for another generation of mistrust.
几年前我搬到了苏格兰。他们仍然记得撒切尔对这个国家造成的破坏。保守党正在为自己制造另一代的不信任。
I moved to Scotland a few years ago. They still remember the damage thatcher did to the country. The tories are setting themselves up for another generation of mistrust.
几年前我搬到了苏格兰。他们仍然记得撒切尔对这个国家造成的破坏。保守党正在为自己制造另一代的不信任。
Dr_Ducky_1
And yet the number of people on benefits will only go up, as those in work claim them to prop up wages which haven't risen and don't cover costs. Meanwhile the government will continue the "benefits users are scroungers" and "it's all to encourage work instead" narratives.
然而，领取救济金的人数只会增加，因为那些有工作的人要求用救济金来支撑工资，而工资没有上涨，也无法弥补成本。与此同时，政府将继续“救济金用户是小偷”和“这一切都是为了鼓励工作”的说法。
And yet the number of people on benefits will only go up, as those in work claim them to prop up wages which haven't risen and don't cover costs. Meanwhile the government will continue the "benefits users are scroungers" and "it's all to encourage work instead" narratives.
然而，领取救济金的人数只会增加，因为那些有工作的人要求用救济金来支撑工资，而工资没有上涨，也无法弥补成本。与此同时，政府将继续“救济金用户是小偷”和“这一切都是为了鼓励工作”的说法。
joshgeake
can we just rename this sub to anti-tory or something and start the UK one all over again?
我们能不能把这个版块改名为“反保守党”之类的，然后重开一个“英国”版块？
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can we just rename this sub to anti-tory or something and start the UK one all over again?
我们能不能把这个版块改名为“反保守党”之类的，然后重开一个“英国”版块？
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IamEclipse
This sub is getting very bleak but honestly I think it's a good thing that these things are continually being brought to light.
Quality of life has vastly decreased under the current Tory rule. Benefits have been constantly cut, wages have remained stagnant, services like the NHS have been gutted of funding, and our government is openly corrupt in front of all of us.
It's all doom and gloom but better to be aware of it rather than pretend everything is sunshine and rainbows.
这个版块正在变得非常黯淡，但说实话，我认为这些事情不断被曝光是一件好事。
在当前保守党的统治下，生活质量大幅下降。救济金不断被削减，工资停滞不前，像国家医疗体系这样的服务被剥夺了资金，我们的政府在我们所有人面前公开腐败。
这一切都是厄运和阴郁，但最好意识到这一点，而不是假装一切都是阳光和彩虹。
This sub is getting very bleak but honestly I think it's a good thing that these things are continually being brought to light.
Quality of life has vastly decreased under the current Tory rule. Benefits have been constantly cut, wages have remained stagnant, services like the NHS have been gutted of funding, and our government is openly corrupt in front of all of us.
It's all doom and gloom but better to be aware of it rather than pretend everything is sunshine and rainbows.
这个版块正在变得非常黯淡，但说实话，我认为这些事情不断被曝光是一件好事。
在当前保守党的统治下，生活质量大幅下降。救济金不断被削减，工资停滞不前，像国家医疗体系这样的服务被剥夺了资金，我们的政府在我们所有人面前公开腐败。
这一切都是厄运和阴郁，但最好意识到这一点，而不是假装一切都是阳光和彩虹。
weaslewig
I think the sub just reflects the country honestly.
What positives are there going around? No one seems particularly happy. We could wank ourselves off about how much we love marmite and tea, or reminisce about the good times from the Olympics 10 years ago.
我认为这个版块如实反映了这个国家的现状。
有什么积极的一面吗？似乎没有人特别高兴。我们可以自慰，告诉自己我们有多喜欢马麦酱和茶，或者回忆10年前奥运会的美好时光。
I think the sub just reflects the country honestly.
What positives are there going around? No one seems particularly happy. We could wank ourselves off about how much we love marmite and tea, or reminisce about the good times from the Olympics 10 years ago.
我认为这个版块如实反映了这个国家的现状。
有什么积极的一面吗？似乎没有人特别高兴。我们可以自慰，告诉自己我们有多喜欢马麦酱和茶，或者回忆10年前奥运会的美好时光。
Mister_Sith
I wouldn't say it reflected the country... the demographic of the sub leans very left, far more left than the average Joe blogs. Anyone who's got any positives don't seem to post in this sub very often, and if they do they get grief for doing OK.
The sub has become a breeding ground for complaining... most of it justified but it ends up being hostile to anyone who's not in dire straits and as such their perspective on things isn't welcome.
我不认为这反映了这个国家的现状……这个版块的网民分布非常左倾，比一般的博客更左倾。任何有积极情绪的人似乎都不会经常在这个版块里发帖，如果他们这么做了，他们会因为做得不错而惹上麻烦。
这个版块已经变成了抱怨的滋生地。虽然大多数都是合理的，但最终会对任何没有陷入困境的人产生敌意，因此他们的观点不受欢迎。
I wouldn't say it reflected the country... the demographic of the sub leans very left, far more left than the average Joe blogs. Anyone who's got any positives don't seem to post in this sub very often, and if they do they get grief for doing OK.
The sub has become a breeding ground for complaining... most of it justified but it ends up being hostile to anyone who's not in dire straits and as such their perspective on things isn't welcome.
我不认为这反映了这个国家的现状……这个版块的网民分布非常左倾，比一般的博客更左倾。任何有积极情绪的人似乎都不会经常在这个版块里发帖，如果他们这么做了，他们会因为做得不错而惹上麻烦。
这个版块已经变成了抱怨的滋生地。虽然大多数都是合理的，但最终会对任何没有陷入困境的人产生敌意，因此他们的观点不受欢迎。
Elegant-Row-2396
I would say it perfectly represents most of the country, vast majority of people are slowly having there lifestyles eroded, even people doing well are slowly being dragged in now.
Me and my partner have scrimped and scraped to pay off debt and put ourselves in a good position to have a good life nice holidays etc. this month we should have been 600 a month better off, instead she’s been made redundant and has to commute 40miles a day to earn the same wage, 200 quid a month gone, our electric has gone up massively probably 80 quid plus and then on top food and everything else is far more expensive.
If this sub is bleak it’s because it’s how a LOT of people feel right now, wages aren’t going up and cost of living is spiralling, people are slowly watching there disposable income dissolve in front of there eyes
我想说，这完全代表了这个国家的大多数人，绝大多数人的生活方式正在慢慢被侵蚀，即使是生活得很好的人也在慢慢地被拖进来。
我和我爱人省吃俭用来偿还债务，让我们自己处于一个良好的状态，有一个美好的生活，美好的假期等等。这个月我们本可以每月多赚600英镑，但她却被裁员了，每天要通勤40英里才能挣到同样的工资，每个月花200英镑，我们的电费大幅上涨，可能超过80英镑，并且最要命的是食物和其他所有东西都比这贵得多。
如果这个版块令人沮丧，那是因为很多人现在都有这种感觉，工资没有上涨，生活成本却在螺旋式上升，人们正慢慢地看着可支配收入在眼前消失
I would say it perfectly represents most of the country, vast majority of people are slowly having there lifestyles eroded, even people doing well are slowly being dragged in now.
Me and my partner have scrimped and scraped to pay off debt and put ourselves in a good position to have a good life nice holidays etc. this month we should have been 600 a month better off, instead she’s been made redundant and has to commute 40miles a day to earn the same wage, 200 quid a month gone, our electric has gone up massively probably 80 quid plus and then on top food and everything else is far more expensive.
If this sub is bleak it’s because it’s how a LOT of people feel right now, wages aren’t going up and cost of living is spiralling, people are slowly watching there disposable income dissolve in front of there eyes
我想说，这完全代表了这个国家的大多数人，绝大多数人的生活方式正在慢慢被侵蚀，即使是生活得很好的人也在慢慢地被拖进来。
我和我爱人省吃俭用来偿还债务，让我们自己处于一个良好的状态，有一个美好的生活，美好的假期等等。这个月我们本可以每月多赚600英镑，但她却被裁员了，每天要通勤40英里才能挣到同样的工资，每个月花200英镑，我们的电费大幅上涨，可能超过80英镑，并且最要命的是食物和其他所有东西都比这贵得多。
如果这个版块令人沮丧，那是因为很多人现在都有这种感觉，工资没有上涨，生活成本却在螺旋式上升，人们正慢慢地看着可支配收入在眼前消失
hamsterwaffle
I feel like theres always going to be more anger directed towards the ruling party than the opposition, because theyre the ones supporting to be fixing things.
我觉得人们总是会把更多的愤怒指向执政党，而不是反对党，因为后者是支持解决问题的人。
I feel like theres always going to be more anger directed towards the ruling party than the opposition, because theyre the ones supporting to be fixing things.
我觉得人们总是会把更多的愤怒指向执政党，而不是反对党，因为后者是支持解决问题的人。
joshgeake
I can't help thinking that today's problems (not to mention those of previous eras) only underline how powerless governments tend to be. That and the fact that wholesale change is often unpopular...and unpopularity doesn't sit well with a democratically elected government.
At some point a politician will probably tell it how it is - "I lie to you and underdeliver because if I tell you the truth then you won't vote for me and I'll be out of a job."
Maybe that's why so many MPs are former solicitors?
我不禁会想，今天的问题（更不用说以前的问题了）只会突显出政府往往是多么无能为力。再加上大规模的改变往往不受欢迎……不受欢迎与一个民主选举的政府是格格不入的。
在某种程度上，一个政客可能会告诉它是怎样的——“我对你撒谎，因为如果我告诉你真相，那么你就不会投票给我，我就会失业。”
也许这就是为什么那么多国会议员以前都是律师？
I can't help thinking that today's problems (not to mention those of previous eras) only underline how powerless governments tend to be. That and the fact that wholesale change is often unpopular...and unpopularity doesn't sit well with a democratically elected government.
At some point a politician will probably tell it how it is - "I lie to you and underdeliver because if I tell you the truth then you won't vote for me and I'll be out of a job."
Maybe that's why so many MPs are former solicitors?
我不禁会想，今天的问题（更不用说以前的问题了）只会突显出政府往往是多么无能为力。再加上大规模的改变往往不受欢迎……不受欢迎与一个民主选举的政府是格格不入的。
在某种程度上，一个政客可能会告诉它是怎样的——“我对你撒谎，因为如果我告诉你真相，那么你就不会投票给我，我就会失业。”
也许这就是为什么那么多国会议员以前都是律师？
BonzoTheBossCheshire
I can't help but wonder if you'd extend the same latitude to central government if Labour were in power. What you say has a ring of truth, yes governments are as affected by global events as the rest of us. But there is a lot that can be done internally to help alleviate the current struggles that people are facing. They are simply choosing not to.
我不禁想知道，如果工党执政了，你是否也会同样引申到中央政府。你说的很有道理，是的，政府和我们一样都受到了全球事件的影响。但是，我们可以在内部做很多事情来帮助缓解人们目前面临的困境。他们只是选择不这么做。
I can't help but wonder if you'd extend the same latitude to central government if Labour were in power. What you say has a ring of truth, yes governments are as affected by global events as the rest of us. But there is a lot that can be done internally to help alleviate the current struggles that people are facing. They are simply choosing not to.
我不禁想知道，如果工党执政了，你是否也会同样引申到中央政府。你说的很有道理，是的，政府和我们一样都受到了全球事件的影响。但是，我们可以在内部做很多事情来帮助缓解人们目前面临的困境。他们只是选择不这么做。
look-lively
I’m not anti Tory I just hate what they stand for
我不是反托利党，我只是讨厌他们所支持的东西
I’m not anti Tory I just hate what they stand for
我不是反托利党，我只是讨厌他们所支持的东西
TheFost
It reflects unemployed people sitting on an internet forum complaining when they should be working.
这个版块反映了失业人员在本应工作的时候，却坐在互联网论坛上发牢骚。
It reflects unemployed people sitting on an internet forum complaining when they should be working.
这个版块反映了失业人员在本应工作的时候，却坐在互联网论坛上发牢骚。
MrSpindles
Does it fuck. What a short sighted comment.
I'm employed, and you know what? I post on reddit when I'm not at work.
Should be fucking working, get to fuck. Ever hear of shift work? Not everyone has a nice cushy 9 to 5 you know. You're just projecting your prejudices and coming up with an answer that suits your views. A substantial portion of the working population don't work those hours, but in your mind if they aren't at work on a Monday they must be scrounging.
Fucking deluded.
qnmd。多么短视的评论。
我有工作，你知道吗？我是在下班的时候才会上红迪发帖。
应该去tmd工作，去tmd。听说过轮班工作吗？不是每个人都有轻松的朝九晚五。你只是在投射你的偏见，然后想出一个符合你观点的回复。相当一部分的工作群体不会在这些时间工作，但在你看来，如果他们周一不工作，那他们一定是在摸鱼。
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Does it fuck. What a short sighted comment.
I'm employed, and you know what? I post on reddit when I'm not at work.
Should be fucking working, get to fuck. Ever hear of shift work? Not everyone has a nice cushy 9 to 5 you know. You're just projecting your prejudices and coming up with an answer that suits your views. A substantial portion of the working population don't work those hours, but in your mind if they aren't at work on a Monday they must be scrounging.
Fucking deluded.
qnmd。多么短视的评论。
我有工作，你知道吗？我是在下班的时候才会上红迪发帖。
应该去tmd工作，去tmd。听说过轮班工作吗？不是每个人都有轻松的朝九晚五。你只是在投射你的偏见，然后想出一个符合你观点的回复。相当一部分的工作群体不会在这些时间工作，但在你看来，如果他们周一不工作，那他们一定是在摸鱼。
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qnmd。
TheFost
We should be aiming to move the burden from the government onto employers. Wages are certain to rise, now that the floodgates have been shut on unskilled labour from eastern Europe.
我们应该致力于将负担从政府转移到雇主身上。工资肯定会上涨，因为现在对东欧非技术工人的闸门已经关闭了。
TheFost
We should be aiming to move the burden from the government onto employers. Wages are certain to rise, now that the floodgates have been shut on unskilled labour from eastern Europe.
我们应该致力于将负担从政府转移到雇主身上。工资肯定会上涨，因为现在对东欧非技术工人的闸门已经关闭了。
Robot_Coffee_Pot
Wages are certain to rise, now that the floodgates have been shut on unskilled labour from eastern Europe.
And when they don't, will you accept that kicking the foreigners out was, in fact, purely a racial thing and nothing at all to do with economics?
“工资肯定会上涨，因为现在对东欧非技术工人的闸门已经关闭了”
如果他们不涨工资，你还会接受“把外国人赶出去纯粹是种族问题，与经济毫无关系”的说法吗？
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Wages are certain to rise, now that the floodgates have been shut on unskilled labour from eastern Europe.
And when they don't, will you accept that kicking the foreigners out was, in fact, purely a racial thing and nothing at all to do with economics?
“工资肯定会上涨，因为现在对东欧非技术工人的闸门已经关闭了”
如果他们不涨工资，你还会接受“把外国人赶出去纯粹是种族问题，与经济毫无关系”的说法吗？
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IgamOg
Economy is sure to tank due to labour shortages. Businesses keep shutting down, contracting or moving their operations to EU.
Also EU expats were more skilled than Brits so stop with repeating lies you were fed..
It's amazing how different is narrative in Poland now that over two million Ukrainians arrived. Vast majority of Poles are thrilled about the additional labour. There's plenty of jobs to go around and let businesses expand. The whole anti immigration sentiment was a culture war waged by Tories to cling on to power and they won. Regular people lost.
由于劳动力短缺，经济肯定会下滑。企业不断关闭，将业务承包或转移到欧盟。
此外，欧盟移民比英国人更有技能，所以别再重复你被灌输的谎言了。
现在有200多万乌克兰人来到波兰，这让波兰的故事变得如此不同。绝大多数波兰人对额外的劳动力感到兴奋。这里有大量的工作机会，可以让企业扩张。整个反移民情绪是保守党为了抓住权力而发动的一场文化战争，他们赢了。老百姓成了输家。
Economy is sure to tank due to labour shortages. Businesses keep shutting down, contracting or moving their operations to EU.
Also EU expats were more skilled than Brits so stop with repeating lies you were fed..
It's amazing how different is narrative in Poland now that over two million Ukrainians arrived. Vast majority of Poles are thrilled about the additional labour. There's plenty of jobs to go around and let businesses expand. The whole anti immigration sentiment was a culture war waged by Tories to cling on to power and they won. Regular people lost.
由于劳动力短缺，经济肯定会下滑。企业不断关闭，将业务承包或转移到欧盟。
此外，欧盟移民比英国人更有技能，所以别再重复你被灌输的谎言了。
现在有200多万乌克兰人来到波兰，这让波兰的故事变得如此不同。绝大多数波兰人对额外的劳动力感到兴奋。这里有大量的工作机会，可以让企业扩张。整个反移民情绪是保守党为了抓住权力而发动的一场文化战争，他们赢了。老百姓成了输家。
Skurwycyn
Living on Benefits should not be a lifestyle option. Instead people should work for the payment.
People on a state pension excepted from the above however their payments should be related to the value they've put into the country over the years.
Too many people think the world owes them a nice lifestyle. It doesn't. Get out and do something valuable.
Edit: and for clarity I worked as a Benefits assessor for 11 years and saw the bone idle getting full benefits whilst Mrs Old Lady living on her own had to pay her own way.
靠救济金生活不应该成为一种生活方式的选择。相反，人们应该为报酬而工作。
领取国家养老金的人不属于上述范围，但他们的养老金应与他们多年来对国家的贡献相挂钩。
太多的人认为这个世界欠他们一个美好的生活方式。它不欠。走出去，做一些有价值的事情吧。
PS：为了澄清起见，我做了11年的救济金评估员，看到一个懒到骨子里的人得到了全部的救济金，而独自生活的老妇人却必须自己支付。
Living on Benefits should not be a lifestyle option. Instead people should work for the payment.
People on a state pension excepted from the above however their payments should be related to the value they've put into the country over the years.
Too many people think the world owes them a nice lifestyle. It doesn't. Get out and do something valuable.
Edit: and for clarity I worked as a Benefits assessor for 11 years and saw the bone idle getting full benefits whilst Mrs Old Lady living on her own had to pay her own way.
靠救济金生活不应该成为一种生活方式的选择。相反，人们应该为报酬而工作。
领取国家养老金的人不属于上述范围，但他们的养老金应与他们多年来对国家的贡献相挂钩。
太多的人认为这个世界欠他们一个美好的生活方式。它不欠。走出去，做一些有价值的事情吧。
PS：为了澄清起见，我做了11年的救济金评估员，看到一个懒到骨子里的人得到了全部的救济金，而独自生活的老妇人却必须自己支付。
StormRider2407Scotland
What about people who are not capable of "working for the payment" due to health issues?
那些由于健康问题而无法“为报酬而工作”的人该怎么办呢？
What about people who are not capable of "working for the payment" due to health issues?
那些由于健康问题而无法“为报酬而工作”的人该怎么办呢？
Muted-Beginning848
If someone is incapable of working then they should receive support, absolutely.
如果某人没有工作能力，那么他们绝对应该得到支持。
If someone is incapable of working then they should receive support, absolutely.
如果某人没有工作能力，那么他们绝对应该得到支持。
callsignhotdog
But then how do you tell who's "really" incapable of working? This is the system we have now, benefits don't pay enough to live, disabled people theoretically get more but they're being constantly challenged on the "validity" of their claims. People with no legs being forced to do assessments every 6 months in case their legs grew back. Every measure to weed out "the undeserving" will inevitably harm "the deserving" and tbh as a taxpayer I'd rather pay for ten scroungers to get less than minimum wage than see even one vulnerable person sanctioned because they missed a letter from the dwp.
但是，你如何判断谁“真正”没有工作能力呢？这就是我们现在的体系，救济金不足以维持生活，残疾人理论上可以得到更多，但他们的要求的“有效性”不断受到挑战。没有腿的人被迫每6个月做一次评估——以防他们的腿长回来。每一项剔除“不值得的人”的措施都将不可避免地伤害“值得的人”。老实说，作为一名纳税人，我宁愿付钱给十个骗子，让他们拿到比最低工资还低的救济金，也不愿看到哪怕一个脆弱的人因为错过了一封来自劳动和社会福利部的信而被剔除。
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But then how do you tell who's "really" incapable of working? This is the system we have now, benefits don't pay enough to live, disabled people theoretically get more but they're being constantly challenged on the "validity" of their claims. People with no legs being forced to do assessments every 6 months in case their legs grew back. Every measure to weed out "the undeserving" will inevitably harm "the deserving" and tbh as a taxpayer I'd rather pay for ten scroungers to get less than minimum wage than see even one vulnerable person sanctioned because they missed a letter from the dwp.
但是，你如何判断谁“真正”没有工作能力呢？这就是我们现在的体系，救济金不足以维持生活，残疾人理论上可以得到更多，但他们的要求的“有效性”不断受到挑战。没有腿的人被迫每6个月做一次评估——以防他们的腿长回来。每一项剔除“不值得的人”的措施都将不可避免地伤害“值得的人”。老实说，作为一名纳税人，我宁愿付钱给十个骗子，让他们拿到比最低工资还低的救济金，也不愿看到哪怕一个脆弱的人因为错过了一封来自劳动和社会福利部的信而被剔除。
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Mr06506
I hope you never have a change of circumstances that leaves you unable to work for a few months or more.
Exceedingly few people on benefits live that lifestyle by choice.
我希望你永远不会因为境遇的改变而在几个月或更长时间内无法工作。
极少有靠救济金生活的人选择这样的生活方式。
I hope you never have a change of circumstances that leaves you unable to work for a few months or more.
Exceedingly few people on benefits live that lifestyle by choice.
我希望你永远不会因为境遇的改变而在几个月或更长时间内无法工作。
极少有靠救济金生活的人选择这样的生活方式。
Skurwycyn
Thank you for your concern but events like that wouldn't be a lifestychoice. I've seen thousands of people for whom benefits is a definite choice though.
谢谢你的关心，但这样的事情不是你的人生选择。我已经见过成千上万的人，他们把领救济金当成是一个明确的选择。
Thank you for your concern but events like that wouldn't be a lifestychoice. I've seen thousands of people for whom benefits is a definite choice though.
谢谢你的关心，但这样的事情不是你的人生选择。我已经见过成千上万的人，他们把领救济金当成是一个明确的选择。
aruexperienced
I have a family member like that. The problem is she’s absolutely emotionally unstable and highly confrontational. It’s better to keep her out of the workplace because she just causes havoc and chaos. At least on benefits she can just sit at home and shout at daytime tv.
She has a miserable life in general. If it weren’t for the rest of the family paying for broken white goods and unfair bills that crop up, she’d be in eternal debt, paying loan companies huge interest hikes.
Being on benefits is a miserable lifestyle choice. People should be helped off them, but if the alternative isn’t anything more happy or rewarding then how are you to be incentivised?
She was heavily abused as a kid, has major trust issues and seeking what little therapy she could access just ended up making her worse.
我有个家人就是这样。问题是她的情绪非常不稳定而且对抗性很强。最好让她远离工作场所，因为她只会造成混乱和混乱。至少靠领救济金，她可以坐在家里对着白天的电视大喊大叫（而不用出去制造麻烦）。
总的来说，她的生活很悲惨。如果不是其他家庭成员为破碎的白色家电和突然出现的不公平账单买单，她将永远处于债务中，支付贷款公司大幅提高的利息。
靠救济金生活是一种悲惨的生活方式。人们应该被帮助摆脱它们，但如果选择没有任何更快乐或更有意义的回报，那么你将怎么被激励呢？
她小时候被严重虐待，有严重的信任问题，寻求她能得到的一点点治疗，结果只会让她的情况变得更糟。
I have a family member like that. The problem is she’s absolutely emotionally unstable and highly confrontational. It’s better to keep her out of the workplace because she just causes havoc and chaos. At least on benefits she can just sit at home and shout at daytime tv.
She has a miserable life in general. If it weren’t for the rest of the family paying for broken white goods and unfair bills that crop up, she’d be in eternal debt, paying loan companies huge interest hikes.
Being on benefits is a miserable lifestyle choice. People should be helped off them, but if the alternative isn’t anything more happy or rewarding then how are you to be incentivised?
She was heavily abused as a kid, has major trust issues and seeking what little therapy she could access just ended up making her worse.
我有个家人就是这样。问题是她的情绪非常不稳定而且对抗性很强。最好让她远离工作场所，因为她只会造成混乱和混乱。至少靠领救济金，她可以坐在家里对着白天的电视大喊大叫（而不用出去制造麻烦）。
总的来说，她的生活很悲惨。如果不是其他家庭成员为破碎的白色家电和突然出现的不公平账单买单，她将永远处于债务中，支付贷款公司大幅提高的利息。
靠救济金生活是一种悲惨的生活方式。人们应该被帮助摆脱它们，但如果选择没有任何更快乐或更有意义的回报，那么你将怎么被激励呢？
她小时候被严重虐待，有严重的信任问题，寻求她能得到的一点点治疗，结果只会让她的情况变得更糟。
rocketrollit
Living on benefits should not be a lifestyle option. Companies should pay decent wages and not expect to have their wage bill subsidised by the government. Many many people claiming benefits also work.
靠救济金生活不应该是一种生活方式。企业应该支付体面的工资，而不是指望他们的工资账单得到政府的补贴。很多申请救济金的人也有工作。
Living on benefits should not be a lifestyle option. Companies should pay decent wages and not expect to have their wage bill subsidised by the government. Many many people claiming benefits also work.
靠救济金生活不应该是一种生活方式。企业应该支付体面的工资，而不是指望他们的工资账单得到政府的补贴。很多申请救济金的人也有工作。
knotatwist
What do you do if you have children younger than school age? What do you do if you live somewhere with very few job opportunities? What do you do when the most you get extra from working is £20 a week, but you have to try and arrange childcare and your kids are worse off for it.
How do you know someone is bone idle?
如果你有不到上学年龄的孩子怎么办？如果你生活的地方工作机会很少，你该怎么办？当你从工作中得到的最多的额外收入只有每周20英镑，但你不得不尝试安排托儿服务，而你的孩子因此变得更糟时，你该怎么办？
你怎么知道一个人是因为懒到极点（才贫困的）？
What do you do if you have children younger than school age? What do you do if you live somewhere with very few job opportunities? What do you do when the most you get extra from working is £20 a week, but you have to try and arrange childcare and your kids are worse off for it.
How do you know someone is bone idle?
如果你有不到上学年龄的孩子怎么办？如果你生活的地方工作机会很少，你该怎么办？当你从工作中得到的最多的额外收入只有每周20英镑，但你不得不尝试安排托儿服务，而你的孩子因此变得更糟时，你该怎么办？
你怎么知道一个人是因为懒到极点（才贫困的）？
IgamOg
Why not? Why should our right to live be determined by how useful we are to business owners?
There are people looking after their elderly parents, sick relatives or their children, people with undiagnosed mental struggles, people burned out from work. They all deserve food and shelter.
Hell, we don't deny food or shelter to worst criminals because that would constitute 'cruel and unusual punishment' but its somehow OK for innocent struggling people?
为什么不能靠救济金生活？为什么我们的生存权利要由我们对企业主的有用程度来决定呢？
有人要照顾年迈的父母、生病的亲戚或孩子，有人患有未确诊的精神疾病，有人因工作而疲惫不堪。他们都应该得到食物和住所。
见鬼，我们不会拒绝给最严重的罪犯提供食物或住所，因为这将构成“残忍和不寻常的惩罚”，但这在某种程度上对无辜的挣扎的人来说却是可以的？
Why not? Why should our right to live be determined by how useful we are to business owners?
There are people looking after their elderly parents, sick relatives or their children, people with undiagnosed mental struggles, people burned out from work. They all deserve food and shelter.
Hell, we don't deny food or shelter to worst criminals because that would constitute 'cruel and unusual punishment' but its somehow OK for innocent struggling people?
为什么不能靠救济金生活？为什么我们的生存权利要由我们对企业主的有用程度来决定呢？
有人要照顾年迈的父母、生病的亲戚或孩子，有人患有未确诊的精神疾病，有人因工作而疲惫不堪。他们都应该得到食物和住所。
见鬼，我们不会拒绝给最严重的罪犯提供食物或住所，因为这将构成“残忍和不寻常的惩罚”，但这在某种程度上对无辜的挣扎的人来说却是可以的？
_Monsterguy_
This world you live in where the sick and disabled don't exist, is it because we figured out the science to fix whatever is wrong with them or did you just have them all killed?
在层主生活的这个世界里没有病人和残疾人，是因为我们找到了解决他们问题的科学方法，还是因为你把他们都干掉了？
This world you live in where the sick and disabled don't exist, is it because we figured out the science to fix whatever is wrong with them or did you just have them all killed?
在层主生活的这个世界里没有病人和残疾人，是因为我们找到了解决他们问题的科学方法，还是因为你把他们都干掉了？
No-Competition-3042
working in retail i know alot of people who rely on benefits because they only get given 16-20hrs a week full time contracts
我在零售行业工作，我认识很多依赖救济金的人，因为他们每周只有16-20小时的全职合同
working in retail i know alot of people who rely on benefits because they only get given 16-20hrs a week full time contracts
我在零售行业工作，我认识很多依赖救济金的人，因为他们每周只有16-20小时的全职合同
QVRedit
There is going to be a lot of suffering as a result of the present policies - particularly amoung people who for whatever reason are not working, as benefit policy improvements are focused only on those working.
目前的政策将会带来很多痛苦，尤其是那些因为某种原因而没有工作的人，因为救济金政策的改善只关注那些有工作的人。
原创翻译：龙腾网 https://www.ltaaa.cn 转载请注明出处
There is going to be a lot of suffering as a result of the present policies - particularly amoung people who for whatever reason are not working, as benefit policy improvements are focused only on those working.
目前的政策将会带来很多痛苦，尤其是那些因为某种原因而没有工作的人，因为救济金政策的改善只关注那些有工作的人。
原创翻译：龙腾网 https://www.ltaaa.cn 转载请注明出处
ben10ma
Wages in jobs aren’t rising with inflation why should scroungers get “a pay rise”.
工作岗位的工资没有随着通货膨胀而上涨，为什么行乞的人却要“加薪”呢？
Wages in jobs aren’t rising with inflation why should scroungers get “a pay rise”.
工作岗位的工资没有随着通货膨胀而上涨，为什么行乞的人却要“加薪”呢？
AphidOverdo
"I don't care, I will continue to hate the people with £10 more in their pocket rather than the multi-millionaires in charge”
“我不在乎，我将继续讨厌那些口袋里多出10英镑的人，而不是那些掌权的千万富翁。”
"I don't care, I will continue to hate the people with £10 more in their pocket rather than the multi-millionaires in charge”
“我不在乎，我将继续讨厌那些口袋里多出10英镑的人，而不是那些掌权的千万富翁。”
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