你知道什么下三滥的商业策略吗（一）
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What dirty business tactics do you know?
你知道什么下三滥的商业策略吗?
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What dirty business tactics do you know?
你知道什么下三滥的商业策略吗?
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Shrikant Bhave, lives in Pune, Maharashtra, India
Shrikant Bhave，住在印度马哈拉施特拉邦浦那
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Shrikant Bhave，住在印度马哈拉施特拉邦浦那
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My wife uses TVS streak and she recently told me that horn, indicator and button start are not functioning. The first doubt I had was about battery problem.
I took the bike to an authorized TVS service center where I had serviced the bike previously. The supervisor was polite and helpful and I had a good experience with them.
I told him that, horn, indicator and button start are not functioning. He just tried to start and it did not, and he immediately told me that battery is out of life.
I asked him how did he figure this out. He mentioned that these kind of batteries have been stopped manufacturing almost four years ago and they do not last more than 4 years.
His answer triggered doubt in my mind. Despite of this, I agreed to replace it with new one. Later we discussed about Wet and Dry batteries and Dry one was costing Rs. 1400
He asked his mechanic to replace the malfunctioning old battery with new Dry one. The mechanic brought a new battery from inside and fitted it. Tried to start the bike but it didn’t.
He then removed a ‘fuse’ from the assembly and replaced it with new one. After this the bike was started successfully.
Out of curiosity I asked him, how did he come to know that battery is out of life. Without a pause he said, ”We can conclude just by looking at the date on the battery”. I asked, “So please tell me where is the date on the battery”.
For almost 2 mins he tried to find out the date on the battery. Also asked the supervisor but he also did not find.
我妻子使用TVS（印度第三大摩托车制造公司）一段时间了，她最近告诉我喇叭、指示灯和启动按钮都不起作用。我的第一个疑问是关于电池出现问题。
我把它带到了一个授权的TVS服务中心，我以前在那里保养过摩托车。主管很有礼貌，乐于助人，我和他们相处得很好。
我告诉他，喇叭、指示灯和启动按钮都不起作用。他只是试着启动下，但没有反应，他马上告诉我电池没电了。
我问他怎么知道的。他提到，这种电池几乎在四年前就已经停止生产，而且寿命不超过4年。
他的回答引起了我的怀疑。尽管如此，我还是同意换一个新电池。后来我们讨论了干电池和湿电池，干电池的价格是1400卢比
他让他的机修工用新的干电池更换出故障的旧电池。机修工从里面拿来一块新电池并安装好了。试图启动自行车，但启动不了。
然后，他从组件上取下一根“保险丝”，并换上新的。此后，成功启动。
出于好奇，我问他，他是怎么知道电池没电了。他毫不犹豫地说，“我们只需看看电池上的日期就可以得出结论。”。我问：“那么请告诉我电池上的日期在哪里。”。
在将近两分钟的时间里，他试图找出电池的日期。也问过主管，但他也没有找到。
I took the bike to an authorized TVS service center where I had serviced the bike previously. The supervisor was polite and helpful and I had a good experience with them.
I told him that, horn, indicator and button start are not functioning. He just tried to start and it did not, and he immediately told me that battery is out of life.
I asked him how did he figure this out. He mentioned that these kind of batteries have been stopped manufacturing almost four years ago and they do not last more than 4 years.
His answer triggered doubt in my mind. Despite of this, I agreed to replace it with new one. Later we discussed about Wet and Dry batteries and Dry one was costing Rs. 1400
He asked his mechanic to replace the malfunctioning old battery with new Dry one. The mechanic brought a new battery from inside and fitted it. Tried to start the bike but it didn’t.
He then removed a ‘fuse’ from the assembly and replaced it with new one. After this the bike was started successfully.
Out of curiosity I asked him, how did he come to know that battery is out of life. Without a pause he said, ”We can conclude just by looking at the date on the battery”. I asked, “So please tell me where is the date on the battery”.
For almost 2 mins he tried to find out the date on the battery. Also asked the supervisor but he also did not find.
我妻子使用TVS（印度第三大摩托车制造公司）一段时间了，她最近告诉我喇叭、指示灯和启动按钮都不起作用。我的第一个疑问是关于电池出现问题。
我把它带到了一个授权的TVS服务中心，我以前在那里保养过摩托车。主管很有礼貌，乐于助人，我和他们相处得很好。
我告诉他，喇叭、指示灯和启动按钮都不起作用。他只是试着启动下，但没有反应，他马上告诉我电池没电了。
我问他怎么知道的。他提到，这种电池几乎在四年前就已经停止生产，而且寿命不超过4年。
他的回答引起了我的怀疑。尽管如此，我还是同意换一个新电池。后来我们讨论了干电池和湿电池，干电池的价格是1400卢比
他让他的机修工用新的干电池更换出故障的旧电池。机修工从里面拿来一块新电池并安装好了。试图启动自行车，但启动不了。
然后，他从组件上取下一根“保险丝”，并换上新的。此后，成功启动。
出于好奇，我问他，他是怎么知道电池没电了。他毫不犹豫地说，“我们只需看看电池上的日期就可以得出结论。”。我问：“那么请告诉我电池上的日期在哪里。”。
在将近两分钟的时间里，他试图找出电池的日期。也问过主管，但他也没有找到。
I came to know that the reason for all the problems was the ‘fuse’ and not the battery.
I asked supervisor if he can check if battery is working or not. He brought the multi meter (the device to check voltage, current resistance etc.) and checked. It showed 12 Volts which is the correct output of the battery. This proved that battery was functioning.
He then asked his mechanic to replace the new one with old one and try starting the bike.
He did and tried to button start it, and what!!!! Bike started (using old battery)!!!
The mechanic then silently kept his new battery in the box and went inside.
The total cost of Fuse and some other work was just Rs. 200
Due to not leaving my bike with him and observing the work, I could save almost Rs.1200 and importantly ‘getting scammed’.
The dirty business tactic here was to make a customer buy a new thing to get more profit without considering actual problem.
Thanks to all Quorans for writing the answers related to scams and dirty business tactics. You have made me aware of such things happening in the service centers/ garages.
我知道所有问题的原因都是“保险丝”，而不是电池。
我问主管是否可以检查电池是否工作。他带来了万用表（用来检查电压、电流电阻等的装置）并进行了检查。它显示其12伏，这是电池的正确输出电压，这证明了电池正常工作。
然后，他让他的机修师傅用旧的替换回新的，并试着启动自行车。
他照做，并试图启动它，什么？摩托车启动了（使用旧电池）！
然后，维修师傅默默地把新电池放在盒子里，走了进去。
保险丝和其他一些工作的总成本仅为200卢比
由于没有把摩托车留给他，而是在那看着他修理，我省下将近1200卢比，更重要的是“被骗”。
这种不诚实的商业策略是让客户购买新产品以获得更多利润，而不考虑实际问题。
感谢所有Quoran撰写了与欺诈和不诚实的商业策略相关的答案。你让我意识到服务中心/车库里发生这样的事情。
I asked supervisor if he can check if battery is working or not. He brought the multi meter (the device to check voltage, current resistance etc.) and checked. It showed 12 Volts which is the correct output of the battery. This proved that battery was functioning.
He then asked his mechanic to replace the new one with old one and try starting the bike.
He did and tried to button start it, and what!!!! Bike started (using old battery)!!!
The mechanic then silently kept his new battery in the box and went inside.
The total cost of Fuse and some other work was just Rs. 200
Due to not leaving my bike with him and observing the work, I could save almost Rs.1200 and importantly ‘getting scammed’.
The dirty business tactic here was to make a customer buy a new thing to get more profit without considering actual problem.
Thanks to all Quorans for writing the answers related to scams and dirty business tactics. You have made me aware of such things happening in the service centers/ garages.
我知道所有问题的原因都是“保险丝”，而不是电池。
我问主管是否可以检查电池是否工作。他带来了万用表（用来检查电压、电流电阻等的装置）并进行了检查。它显示其12伏，这是电池的正确输出电压，这证明了电池正常工作。
然后，他让他的机修师傅用旧的替换回新的，并试着启动自行车。
他照做，并试图启动它，什么？摩托车启动了（使用旧电池）！
然后，维修师傅默默地把新电池放在盒子里，走了进去。
保险丝和其他一些工作的总成本仅为200卢比
由于没有把摩托车留给他，而是在那看着他修理，我省下将近1200卢比，更重要的是“被骗”。
这种不诚实的商业策略是让客户购买新产品以获得更多利润，而不考虑实际问题。
感谢所有Quoran撰写了与欺诈和不诚实的商业策略相关的答案。你让我意识到服务中心/车库里发生这样的事情。
Chetan Verma, visited 13 cities and 1 country in 2017.
Chetan Verma在2017年访问了13个城市和1个国家。
Chetan Verma在2017年访问了13个城市和1个国家。
Here’s a dirty tactic we faced in a restaurant in Agra,India.
My wife and I took a beautiful trip to Taj Mahal, we asked our auto driver to take us to some place decent for food.
He asked our preference(veg/non-veg) and took us to a average looking shabby restaurant(plastic tables/chairs, open kitchen, old fans.. you get the picture).
So then this smiley faced waiter arrives, greeting us with a warm smile and asking us how the day went in the beautiful city. We were impressed by the way he showed care and proceeded to open the menu for ordering. Just at the point of opening the menu, he stopped us abruptly and asked if he could suggest us something that we might like and was famous from that restaurant. We agreed.
He proceeded with the following with a firm tone:
" I advise that you take 2 half plate(i.e half quantity) of chicken starters, 1 main course curry, and chapati as per your liking."
It sound good, so I told, “Yes please go ahead.” As I opened the menu to check the price for the items he suggested, he abruptly stopped me and proceeded to explain the order on a napkin with diagram of the plate! On what all he suggested, at this point I sensed something was wrong and told him to wait.
这是我们在印度阿格拉（印度北部一城市）的一家餐厅所面临的下流商业策略。
我和妻子去泰姬陵进行了一次愉快的旅行，我们请汽车司机带我们去一个像样的地方吃饭。
他询问了我们的喜好（素食/非素食），带我们去了一家外观普通的破旧餐厅（塑料桌椅、开放式厨房、陈旧的风扇……你懂的）。
那时，一位面带微笑的服务员过来了，他热情且微笑着欢迎我们，并问我们在这座美丽的城市一天过得怎么样。他表现出的关心给我们留下了深刻的印象，然后打开菜单点餐。就在打开菜单的时候，他突然拦住我们，问我们是否可以推荐一些我们可能会喜欢的，那家餐馆很有名的东西，对此我们同意了。
他语气坚定地接着说：
“我建议你根据自己的喜好，吃两个半盘（即一半量）的鸡肉开胃菜、咖喱主菜一道和印度薄饼。”
听起来不错，所以我说，“好的，就这些吧。”当我打开菜单查看他建议的食物的价格时，他突然拦住了我，并对着餐巾上的盘子图解释了订单！听了他的建议，这时我感到有些不对劲，告诉他等一等。
My wife and I took a beautiful trip to Taj Mahal, we asked our auto driver to take us to some place decent for food.
He asked our preference(veg/non-veg) and took us to a average looking shabby restaurant(plastic tables/chairs, open kitchen, old fans.. you get the picture).
So then this smiley faced waiter arrives, greeting us with a warm smile and asking us how the day went in the beautiful city. We were impressed by the way he showed care and proceeded to open the menu for ordering. Just at the point of opening the menu, he stopped us abruptly and asked if he could suggest us something that we might like and was famous from that restaurant. We agreed.
He proceeded with the following with a firm tone:
" I advise that you take 2 half plate(i.e half quantity) of chicken starters, 1 main course curry, and chapati as per your liking."
It sound good, so I told, “Yes please go ahead.” As I opened the menu to check the price for the items he suggested, he abruptly stopped me and proceeded to explain the order on a napkin with diagram of the plate! On what all he suggested, at this point I sensed something was wrong and told him to wait.
这是我们在印度阿格拉（印度北部一城市）的一家餐厅所面临的下流商业策略。
我和妻子去泰姬陵进行了一次愉快的旅行，我们请汽车司机带我们去一个像样的地方吃饭。
他询问了我们的喜好（素食/非素食），带我们去了一家外观普通的破旧餐厅（塑料桌椅、开放式厨房、陈旧的风扇……你懂的）。
那时，一位面带微笑的服务员过来了，他热情且微笑着欢迎我们，并问我们在这座美丽的城市一天过得怎么样。他表现出的关心给我们留下了深刻的印象，然后打开菜单点餐。就在打开菜单的时候，他突然拦住我们，问我们是否可以推荐一些我们可能会喜欢的，那家餐馆很有名的东西，对此我们同意了。
他语气坚定地接着说：
“我建议你根据自己的喜好，吃两个半盘（即一半量）的鸡肉开胃菜、咖喱主菜一道和印度薄饼。”
听起来不错，所以我说，“好的，就这些吧。”当我打开菜单查看他建议的食物的价格时，他突然拦住了我，并对着餐巾上的盘子图解释了订单！听了他的建议，这时我感到有些不对劲，告诉他等一等。
Now nothing was to stop me from opening the menu, and I could see the discomfort on the waiter's face as I was locating the items on order before confirming.
Here’s the shocking price list I saw:
1/2 plate of 1st item(chilly chicken-INR 650!!, 10 USD)
1/2 plate of 2nd item (some chicken starter -INR 700!!, ~11 USD)
Main course (INR 650!!, 10 USD)
Chapati- 20 INR per piece
Total would cost us (INR 1900,~30 USD)
现在，没有什么能阻止我打开菜单，我可以看到服务员脸上的不安的神情，因为我在确认之前正在查找订单上的条目。
以下是我看到的令人震惊的价目表：
半盘装的第一道菜（冷鸡肉650卢比，约10美元）
半盘装第二道菜（一些鸡肉开胃菜——700卢比！约11美元）
主菜（650卢比，10美元）
印度薄饼每份20卢比
总计将花费我们（1900卢比，约30美元）
Here’s the shocking price list I saw:
1/2 plate of 1st item(chilly chicken-INR 650!!, 10 USD)
1/2 plate of 2nd item (some chicken starter -INR 700!!, ~11 USD)
Main course (INR 650!!, 10 USD)
Chapati- 20 INR per piece
Total would cost us (INR 1900,~30 USD)
现在，没有什么能阻止我打开菜单，我可以看到服务员脸上的不安的神情，因为我在确认之前正在查找订单上的条目。
以下是我看到的令人震惊的价目表：
半盘装的第一道菜（冷鸡肉650卢比，约10美元）
半盘装第二道菜（一些鸡肉开胃菜——700卢比！约11美元）
主菜（650卢比，10美元）
印度薄饼每份20卢比
总计将花费我们（1900卢比，约30美元）
Now for the people that are not familiar with the restaurant food pricing in India, assume that an ideal meal suggested above will cost you a max INR 700(~11 USD) in a decent restaurant, however this particular restaurant was nowhere near to a decent one.
On seeing this I told him to cancel whatever he suggested and get us just the main course with 4 chapatis (Indian flat-bread). His face went from long to furious as he collected the menu with a sad/angry face and proceeded to go to the kitchen to place it.
The food we got after that was just average and we were just relieved by the fact that we escaped a dirty tactic to get ripped off.
So my suggestion to everyone here is to stay cautious whenever visiting common tourist places and not to trust anyone on something related to money unless you have verified everything from your end.
Stay Vigilant! Stay Safe! Keep Travelling!
现在，对那些不熟悉印度餐馆食物定价的人来说，假设上面建议的一顿理想的饭在一家像样的餐馆里最多要花700卢比(约11美元)，然而这家特殊的餐馆离像样的餐馆还差老远。
看到这一点，我告诉他取消他提出的任何建议，只给我们主菜配4个印度扁面包。当他带着悲伤/愤怒的表情拿起菜单，然后去厨房摆放时，带着悲伤/愤怒的表情。
在那之后，我们仅得到一般的食物，我们却松了一口气，因为我们逃脱了被敲诈的下流策略。
因此，我建议在座的每个人在游览普通旅游景点时都要保持谨慎，在与金钱有关的事情上不要相信任何人，除非你已经核实了一切。
保持警惕！注意安全！继续旅行！
On seeing this I told him to cancel whatever he suggested and get us just the main course with 4 chapatis (Indian flat-bread). His face went from long to furious as he collected the menu with a sad/angry face and proceeded to go to the kitchen to place it.
The food we got after that was just average and we were just relieved by the fact that we escaped a dirty tactic to get ripped off.
So my suggestion to everyone here is to stay cautious whenever visiting common tourist places and not to trust anyone on something related to money unless you have verified everything from your end.
Stay Vigilant! Stay Safe! Keep Travelling!
现在，对那些不熟悉印度餐馆食物定价的人来说，假设上面建议的一顿理想的饭在一家像样的餐馆里最多要花700卢比(约11美元)，然而这家特殊的餐馆离像样的餐馆还差老远。
看到这一点，我告诉他取消他提出的任何建议，只给我们主菜配4个印度扁面包。当他带着悲伤/愤怒的表情拿起菜单，然后去厨房摆放时，带着悲伤/愤怒的表情。
在那之后，我们仅得到一般的食物，我们却松了一口气，因为我们逃脱了被敲诈的下流策略。
因此，我建议在座的每个人在游览普通旅游景点时都要保持谨慎，在与金钱有关的事情上不要相信任何人，除非你已经核实了一切。
保持警惕！注意安全！继续旅行！
upxed Dec 17, 2019 · Upvoted by
A very prominent north based developer launched its project in Bangalore South. Apartments are advertised smartly using very aggressive pricing. apartments were launched sometime in 2012 at Rs 3300 per sq. feet. With a buildup area of 920 for 2 BHK (2 Bedroom Hall Kitchen). How much does the cost work out ? Simple - 3300 * 920 = Rs 30 lac plus change. For a national repute developer, you thought it’s a steal to get a 2-bedroom flat, that too in the major technology employment hub of Bangalore. The apartment showed fancy pictures of community club, swimming pool & what not. At 30 lacs plus registration, this is possibly as cheap as it gets !!
Or so the buyers thought !
Before you jump from seats, let me tell you that you haven’t missed any great opportunity here. The fun is yet to follow -
一家非常著名的北方开发商在班加罗尔南部启动了项目。公寓的广告很巧妙，价格非常优惠。公寓于2012年推出，价格为每平方英尺3300卢比。建筑面积为920平方英尺（约85平方米），可布局成两室一大厅但厨卫）。费用算起来是多少？简单：3300*920=300万卢比多点。对于一个全国知名的开发商来说，你认为在班加罗尔这个主要的科技就业中心买一套两居室的公寓很便宜。公寓里展示了社区俱乐部、游泳池之类的精美照片。300万而已，这可能是最便宜的！
至少买家是这么想的！
在你从座位上跳起来之前，让我告诉你，你没有错过这里的任何一个好机会，好戏还在后头。
A very prominent north based developer launched its project in Bangalore South. Apartments are advertised smartly using very aggressive pricing. apartments were launched sometime in 2012 at Rs 3300 per sq. feet. With a buildup area of 920 for 2 BHK (2 Bedroom Hall Kitchen). How much does the cost work out ? Simple - 3300 * 920 = Rs 30 lac plus change. For a national repute developer, you thought it’s a steal to get a 2-bedroom flat, that too in the major technology employment hub of Bangalore. The apartment showed fancy pictures of community club, swimming pool & what not. At 30 lacs plus registration, this is possibly as cheap as it gets !!
Or so the buyers thought !
Before you jump from seats, let me tell you that you haven’t missed any great opportunity here. The fun is yet to follow -
一家非常著名的北方开发商在班加罗尔南部启动了项目。公寓的广告很巧妙，价格非常优惠。公寓于2012年推出，价格为每平方英尺3300卢比。建筑面积为920平方英尺（约85平方米），可布局成两室一大厅但厨卫）。费用算起来是多少？简单：3300*920=300万卢比多点。对于一个全国知名的开发商来说，你认为在班加罗尔这个主要的科技就业中心买一套两居室的公寓很便宜。公寓里展示了社区俱乐部、游泳池之类的精美照片。300万而已，这可能是最便宜的！
至少买家是这么想的！
在你从座位上跳起来之前，让我告诉你，你没有错过这里的任何一个好机会，好戏还在后头。
The sales team shows the overall costing as something like this -
The cost has now gone up to Rs 36 lacs. Let’s look at each of the charges now-
View charges: this is for a specific facing that your apartment carries. Now you ask other options that don’t have this……sorry, no luck. Every apartment has this charge actually. What view you wonder ? The windows will open somewhere. I can't stop looking what is outside.
Orientation charge: Not sure what that is. Call it innovation. It’s again some form of view charge.
Door facing charge: A charge based on where your front door opens - east, west, north or south. Give me the one that doesn’t have this charge, you ask. Again, sorry, every flat has to pay this. Can you get an apartment without a front door opening nowhere? Quite impossible I would think.
Floor rise charge: So, the higher you go, the more you pay. But why not club all into one preference charge? Plus, not my fault if only the higher floors are left to pick from.
Car park - Ahhh. You thought supreme court has banned open car park sales because in any case, that open space belongs to the buyers. Wrong. They are not “selling” the parking as the court has banned it. The builder is charging you the “right to use the car park”. Whatever the hell that means. Talk of rules, this is how they work here.
IIDC charges: This is internal infra development charge. Well the apartment was shown to include all the green parks & infra associated. Why do I pay extra for that? Do you also charge me for the grass outside ?
Hmmmm. You take time to absorb all this nuisance. I wouldn’t mind paying Rs 36 lac but why start with 30 lacs & then add all this ?
销售团队显示的总成本是这样的：
现在成本已经上升到360万卢比。现在我们来看看每一笔费用
查看费用：这是针对你选公寓的一个特定朝向的费用。现在你问其他没有这个费用的房源，抱歉，运气不好。实际上每套公寓都有这个费用。你在想什么？窗户会朝某处打开，我一直在看外面的东西。
指导费：不确定那是什么。称之为创新。这又是某种形式的视野费用。
朝向费用：根据前门的开启位置收费——东、西、北或南。你可以问，给我一个没有这个费用的房源。再次抱歉，每个公寓都要付这个。你能买到一套没有前门的公寓吗？我想这是不可能的。
楼层费：所以，你走得越高，你付的钱就越多。但为什么不把所有费用都加在一起呢?另外，如果只有更高的楼层可供选择，那也不是我的错。
停车场，你认为最高法院禁止露天停车场对外销售，因为在任何情况下，露天停车场都属于买家。错误的他们没有像法院禁止的那样“出售”停车场。建筑商向你收取“停车场使用权”的费用—不管那是什么意思。说到规则，这里就是这样。
建设期利息费用：这是内部基础设施开发费用。公寓里展示了所有相关的绿色公园和基础设施。我为什么要为此支付额外费用？外面的草你也收我钱吗？
嗯。你需要时间来消化这些讨厌的东西。我不介意支付360万卢比，但为什么从300万卢比开始，然后再加上所有这些费用呢？
The cost has now gone up to Rs 36 lacs. Let’s look at each of the charges now-
View charges: this is for a specific facing that your apartment carries. Now you ask other options that don’t have this……sorry, no luck. Every apartment has this charge actually. What view you wonder ? The windows will open somewhere. I can't stop looking what is outside.
Orientation charge: Not sure what that is. Call it innovation. It’s again some form of view charge.
Door facing charge: A charge based on where your front door opens - east, west, north or south. Give me the one that doesn’t have this charge, you ask. Again, sorry, every flat has to pay this. Can you get an apartment without a front door opening nowhere? Quite impossible I would think.
Floor rise charge: So, the higher you go, the more you pay. But why not club all into one preference charge? Plus, not my fault if only the higher floors are left to pick from.
Car park - Ahhh. You thought supreme court has banned open car park sales because in any case, that open space belongs to the buyers. Wrong. They are not “selling” the parking as the court has banned it. The builder is charging you the “right to use the car park”. Whatever the hell that means. Talk of rules, this is how they work here.
IIDC charges: This is internal infra development charge. Well the apartment was shown to include all the green parks & infra associated. Why do I pay extra for that? Do you also charge me for the grass outside ?
Hmmmm. You take time to absorb all this nuisance. I wouldn’t mind paying Rs 36 lac but why start with 30 lacs & then add all this ?
销售团队显示的总成本是这样的：
现在成本已经上升到360万卢比。现在我们来看看每一笔费用
查看费用：这是针对你选公寓的一个特定朝向的费用。现在你问其他没有这个费用的房源，抱歉，运气不好。实际上每套公寓都有这个费用。你在想什么？窗户会朝某处打开，我一直在看外面的东西。
指导费：不确定那是什么。称之为创新。这又是某种形式的视野费用。
朝向费用：根据前门的开启位置收费——东、西、北或南。你可以问，给我一个没有这个费用的房源。再次抱歉，每个公寓都要付这个。你能买到一套没有前门的公寓吗？我想这是不可能的。
楼层费：所以，你走得越高，你付的钱就越多。但为什么不把所有费用都加在一起呢?另外，如果只有更高的楼层可供选择，那也不是我的错。
停车场，你认为最高法院禁止露天停车场对外销售，因为在任何情况下，露天停车场都属于买家。错误的他们没有像法院禁止的那样“出售”停车场。建筑商向你收取“停车场使用权”的费用—不管那是什么意思。说到规则，这里就是这样。
建设期利息费用：这是内部基础设施开发费用。公寓里展示了所有相关的绿色公园和基础设施。我为什么要为此支付额外费用？外面的草你也收我钱吗？
嗯。你需要时间来消化这些讨厌的东西。我不介意支付360万卢比，但为什么从300万卢比开始，然后再加上所有这些费用呢？
Add another 2.5 lac for registration & you own this prized possession for Rs 38.5 lacs. So, you started at 30 lacs but now at 38.5 lac, it feels more like 40 than a 30. What do you say ? Clever marketing !! It has started to stink a bit though.
No worries, it still looks okay for a 2 bedroom by this reputed builder. It may not be a steal You go ahead & book the apartment. The money paid is non-refundable. So, if you DISCOVER anything else after this, there is no going back. With a stingy builder like this, good luck with that.
But with so many charges, what else could add now?
4 years pass by as you await possession. You’ll also get late possession penalty for one-year delay. Plus, nothing more to be paid now after almost 90% payments done. So, thing is getting better, right ?
You discover new charges.
Wow……for an apartment that you started assuming 30 lacs & booked assuming Rs 38 lac all-inclusive is actually asking you for Rs 46 lac, What happened here? let’s see the devil in detail.
再加上25万卢比进行注册，你就可以以385万卢比的价格拥有这件珍贵的物品。所以，你开始看时候是300万卢比，但现在需要花费385万卢比，感觉更像是400万卢比而不是300万卢比。你说呢？聪明的营销！不过这手段开始有点臭了。
不用担心，这家著名建筑商的两居室看起来还是不错的，它可能不是廉价的房子，你去订公寓吧。所付款项不予退还。所以，如果你在这之后发现了什么，就没有回头路了。像你这样遇到吝啬的建筑商，祝你好运。
但是有这么多的费用，现在还有什么可以补充的呢？
4年过去了，你等待着拥有。你还将被推迟一年交房。另外，在几乎90%的款付完后，现在就没有什么需要支付的了。所以，情况正在好转，对吗？
你会发现新的费用。
哇，对于一套你开始假设300万卢比的公寓，以及假设380万卢比的订房价，所有这些实际上都要求你付出460万卢比，这里发生了什么？让我们看看魔鬼般的细节。
No worries, it still looks okay for a 2 bedroom by this reputed builder. It may not be a steal You go ahead & book the apartment. The money paid is non-refundable. So, if you DISCOVER anything else after this, there is no going back. With a stingy builder like this, good luck with that.
But with so many charges, what else could add now?
4 years pass by as you await possession. You’ll also get late possession penalty for one-year delay. Plus, nothing more to be paid now after almost 90% payments done. So, thing is getting better, right ?
You discover new charges.
Wow……for an apartment that you started assuming 30 lacs & booked assuming Rs 38 lac all-inclusive is actually asking you for Rs 46 lac, What happened here? let’s see the devil in detail.
再加上25万卢比进行注册，你就可以以385万卢比的价格拥有这件珍贵的物品。所以，你开始看时候是300万卢比，但现在需要花费385万卢比，感觉更像是400万卢比而不是300万卢比。你说呢？聪明的营销！不过这手段开始有点臭了。
不用担心，这家著名建筑商的两居室看起来还是不错的，它可能不是廉价的房子，你去订公寓吧。所付款项不予退还。所以，如果你在这之后发现了什么，就没有回头路了。像你这样遇到吝啬的建筑商，祝你好运。
但是有这么多的费用，现在还有什么可以补充的呢？
4年过去了，你等待着拥有。你还将被推迟一年交房。另外，在几乎90%的款付完后，现在就没有什么需要支付的了。所以，情况正在好转，对吗？
你会发现新的费用。
哇，对于一套你开始假设300万卢比的公寓，以及假设380万卢比的订房价，所有这些实际上都要求你付出460万卢比，这里发生了什么？让我们看看魔鬼般的细节。
Ever thought of reading the booklet of agreement that you get to see “after” you pay the initial advance ? You should. See the typical clauses & costs:
Club membership: Well the pics showed the club & pool in the premises so that should be a part of the cost of the flat already. Reluctantly you accept Rs 75 K of club charges. However, you discover something else. It seems that you & other buyers “don’t own the club”. You pay for its construction first. Then you pay Rs 25 k for its membership for first 2 years. Then you pay another 7 K for first year fee & another 10 K security deposit. All this for a club that you don’t & will never own. And there’s more . The club is not even constructed as the Bangalore municipal corporation didn’t allow swimming pool. Effort are on but pls pay the money NOW. Oh- did you buy the apartment for the pool ? Tough luck buddy.
Cost of increase in area: It seems the builder was not aware what area was the apartment for. As it turns out, measurement was done post construction & guess what- it came out a bit more than initial 920 sq. feet. So, pay extra for that? can talk to the architect pls? this is an old trick that every builder deploys. remember the initial cost of 30 lacs !! The area will always increase in the end. Too bad you didn’t account for this. The same builder in one of its Gurgaon flats that were sold for 10 crores plus, demanded an additional Rs 3 crore due to increase in area calculations. Rs 3 crores more for error in calculations??
有没有想过，在你支付了最初的预付款后，你会看到协议的小册子？你应该这样做，看清典型条款和费用：
俱乐部会员:照片上显示的是俱乐部和游泳池，所以这应该已经是公寓费用的一部分了。你不情愿地接受了7.5万卢比的俱乐部费用。然而，你会发现一些其他的东西。似乎你和其他买家“不拥有俱乐部。你先支付建造费用。然后支付2.5万卢比作为前两年会员费。然后你再支付7千元的第一年费用和1万的押金。这一切都是为了一个你永远不会拥有的俱乐部。还有更多，由于班加罗尔市政公司不允许使用游泳池，俱乐部甚至没有建造。正在努力而已，但请现在付款。哦，你买游泳池公寓了吗？真倒霉，伙计。
面积增加的成本：建筑商似乎不知道这套公寓的面积。事实证明，测量是在施工后进行的，猜猜看，结果比最初的920平方英尺多一点。那么，要额外付费吗？能和建筑师谈谈吗？这是每个建筑商都会采用的老把戏。记住300万卢比的初始成本！最后面积总是会增加。很遗憾你的解释是没有用的。同一家建筑商位于古尔冈的一套公寓售价超过1亿卢比，由于面积的增加，该建筑商要求客户额外增加3000万卢比。计算中的错误将导致3千万卢比的损失。
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Club membership: Well the pics showed the club & pool in the premises so that should be a part of the cost of the flat already. Reluctantly you accept Rs 75 K of club charges. However, you discover something else. It seems that you & other buyers “don’t own the club”. You pay for its construction first. Then you pay Rs 25 k for its membership for first 2 years. Then you pay another 7 K for first year fee & another 10 K security deposit. All this for a club that you don’t & will never own. And there’s more . The club is not even constructed as the Bangalore municipal corporation didn’t allow swimming pool. Effort are on but pls pay the money NOW. Oh- did you buy the apartment for the pool ? Tough luck buddy.
Cost of increase in area: It seems the builder was not aware what area was the apartment for. As it turns out, measurement was done post construction & guess what- it came out a bit more than initial 920 sq. feet. So, pay extra for that? can talk to the architect pls? this is an old trick that every builder deploys. remember the initial cost of 30 lacs !! The area will always increase in the end. Too bad you didn’t account for this. The same builder in one of its Gurgaon flats that were sold for 10 crores plus, demanded an additional Rs 3 crore due to increase in area calculations. Rs 3 crores more for error in calculations??
有没有想过，在你支付了最初的预付款后，你会看到协议的小册子？你应该这样做，看清典型条款和费用：
俱乐部会员:照片上显示的是俱乐部和游泳池，所以这应该已经是公寓费用的一部分了。你不情愿地接受了7.5万卢比的俱乐部费用。然而，你会发现一些其他的东西。似乎你和其他买家“不拥有俱乐部。你先支付建造费用。然后支付2.5万卢比作为前两年会员费。然后你再支付7千元的第一年费用和1万的押金。这一切都是为了一个你永远不会拥有的俱乐部。还有更多，由于班加罗尔市政公司不允许使用游泳池，俱乐部甚至没有建造。正在努力而已，但请现在付款。哦，你买游泳池公寓了吗？真倒霉，伙计。
面积增加的成本：建筑商似乎不知道这套公寓的面积。事实证明，测量是在施工后进行的，猜猜看，结果比最初的920平方英尺多一点。那么，要额外付费吗？能和建筑师谈谈吗？这是每个建筑商都会采用的老把戏。记住300万卢比的初始成本！最后面积总是会增加。很遗憾你的解释是没有用的。同一家建筑商位于古尔冈的一套公寓售价超过1亿卢比，由于面积的增加，该建筑商要求客户额外增加3000万卢比。计算中的错误将导致3千万卢比的损失。
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Electricity & water charges of Rs 2 lac: Surprised again? You bought the apartment obviously with electricity & water. That too at Rs 1.9 lac which is almost 7% of the original flat cost ?
Cost of electric sub-station: Pay Rs 1 lac for the electric substation to get power to the apartments? Well you already paid almost 2 lacs for “electricity & water”.Add that & you are at 3 lacs just to get electricity to your flat. That is 10% of basic cost??? It was somewhere in the clause 1.2 of the agreement, hidden carefully so you can’t read. Don’t expect the sales guy to tell you this.
State taxes on materials used: Pay another Rs 1.3 lac for some taxes on cement & steel that the builder paid to state govt. Don’t know about this ?? Well it’s there is another clause 1.15, again very carefully hidden.
I’m really beginning to feel very dumb here. But there is another sting in the tail.
Pay Rs 32,000 to the “lawyer of builder’s choice” who will facilitate the registration process. Rs 32 K just to get some paperwork for registration. Btw, the registration costs of 2.5 lac are additional. Plus, some Rs 5000 as incidental expenses for “photocopy” at the registrar’s office TO BE PAID IN CASH !! I understand this. The govt employee will not sign without cash. You know what? Of all the above charges, this is the ones I clearly has accounted for. For the rest of it, well You started to buy a flat for Rs 30 lac but end up at Rs 46 lac. Can you cite another business practice like this one where end product is 55% more than the stated cost ?
I’m sure you want to know the builder. It was DLF. Not that anyone else is any different.
People ask me often whether they should buy some upcoming pre-launch apartments from a reputed builder in a cost that looks reasonable, I just smile.
20万卢比水电费：又感到惊讶了吗？你买这套公寓显然是带水电的。这也是19万卢比，几乎是原公寓成本的7%。
变电站成本：支付10万卢比变电站的费用，给公寓供电，你已经付了将近20万卢比的水电费用了，给你的公寓通水电已经付了30万卢比，这是基本成本的10%，它就在协议第1.2条的某个地方，被小心地隐藏起来，这样你就看不懂了，别指望销售人员会告诉你这些。
所用材料的州税：为建筑商向州政府支付的水泥和钢材的部分税费再支付1.3卢比lac。不知道吗？？还有另外一个条款1.15，同样非常小心地隐藏起来。
我真的开始觉得自己很笨了。但尾巴上还有另一个刺。
向“建筑商选择的律师”支付3.2万卢比，该律师将为注册过程提供便利。3.2万卢比只是为了得到一些注册文件。顺便说一句，25万卢比的注册费用是额外的。另外，大约5000卢比作为注册办公室“复印”的杂费，以现金支付！我理解这一点。政府雇员在没有现金的情况下不会签字。你知道吗？在上述所有费用中，这一项我是提前考虑到的。你一开始花300万卢比买一套房子，结果花了460万卢比。你还能举出另一个类似的商业现象吗?最终产品比所述成本高出55%。
我肯定你想认识建筑商—DLF。并不是说其他人有什么不同。
人们经常问我，他们是否可以以合理的价格从知名建筑商那里购买一些即将推出的预售公寓，我只是微笑面对。
Cost of electric sub-station: Pay Rs 1 lac for the electric substation to get power to the apartments? Well you already paid almost 2 lacs for “electricity & water”.Add that & you are at 3 lacs just to get electricity to your flat. That is 10% of basic cost??? It was somewhere in the clause 1.2 of the agreement, hidden carefully so you can’t read. Don’t expect the sales guy to tell you this.
State taxes on materials used: Pay another Rs 1.3 lac for some taxes on cement & steel that the builder paid to state govt. Don’t know about this ?? Well it’s there is another clause 1.15, again very carefully hidden.
I’m really beginning to feel very dumb here. But there is another sting in the tail.
Pay Rs 32,000 to the “lawyer of builder’s choice” who will facilitate the registration process. Rs 32 K just to get some paperwork for registration. Btw, the registration costs of 2.5 lac are additional. Plus, some Rs 5000 as incidental expenses for “photocopy” at the registrar’s office TO BE PAID IN CASH !! I understand this. The govt employee will not sign without cash. You know what? Of all the above charges, this is the ones I clearly has accounted for. For the rest of it, well You started to buy a flat for Rs 30 lac but end up at Rs 46 lac. Can you cite another business practice like this one where end product is 55% more than the stated cost ?
I’m sure you want to know the builder. It was DLF. Not that anyone else is any different.
People ask me often whether they should buy some upcoming pre-launch apartments from a reputed builder in a cost that looks reasonable, I just smile.
20万卢比水电费：又感到惊讶了吗？你买这套公寓显然是带水电的。这也是19万卢比，几乎是原公寓成本的7%。
变电站成本：支付10万卢比变电站的费用，给公寓供电，你已经付了将近20万卢比的水电费用了，给你的公寓通水电已经付了30万卢比，这是基本成本的10%，它就在协议第1.2条的某个地方，被小心地隐藏起来，这样你就看不懂了，别指望销售人员会告诉你这些。
所用材料的州税：为建筑商向州政府支付的水泥和钢材的部分税费再支付1.3卢比lac。不知道吗？？还有另外一个条款1.15，同样非常小心地隐藏起来。
我真的开始觉得自己很笨了。但尾巴上还有另一个刺。
向“建筑商选择的律师”支付3.2万卢比，该律师将为注册过程提供便利。3.2万卢比只是为了得到一些注册文件。顺便说一句，25万卢比的注册费用是额外的。另外，大约5000卢比作为注册办公室“复印”的杂费，以现金支付！我理解这一点。政府雇员在没有现金的情况下不会签字。你知道吗？在上述所有费用中，这一项我是提前考虑到的。你一开始花300万卢比买一套房子，结果花了460万卢比。你还能举出另一个类似的商业现象吗?最终产品比所述成本高出55%。
我肯定你想认识建筑商—DLF。并不是说其他人有什么不同。
人们经常问我，他们是否可以以合理的价格从知名建筑商那里购买一些即将推出的预售公寓，我只是微笑面对。
Karthik Panjala, former Risk Investigator at Amazon India (2018-2019)
Karthik Panjala，前亚马逊印度风险调查员(2018-2019年)
Karthik Panjala，前亚马逊印度风险调查员(2018-2019年)
Well, I was scrolling through my Insta yesterday and found an interesting news about the Business tactics of JIO.
I would probably name this as the TELECOM GAME being played by JIO.
Now coming to the Business tactics of JIO, Airtel Officials said that Reliance Jio had reduced the ringing time for outgoing calls to other networks, from 45 to 20 seconds only, leading to a lot of customer inconvenience since the calls are cut off even before the customer receives.
Once a customer receives a missed call, he/she usually calls back the originating operator's network. By converting such outgoing calls to incoming calls, they get interconnect usage charge which is 6 paise per minute and artificial traffic.
我昨天浏览了我的Insta，发现了一条关于JIO（印度第一大运营商）商业策略的有趣新闻。
我可能会把它命名为JIO正在玩的电信游戏。
现在说到JIO的商业策略，Airtel官员说，无线运营商Reliance Jio已经将向其他网络发出呼叫的振铃时间从45秒减少到20秒，导致许多客户不便，因为电话甚至在客户接听之前就被切断了。
一旦客户接到未接来电，他/她通常会回拨原始运营商的网络。通过将这些呼出电话转换为呼入电话，他们得到的是每分钟6 派萨的连接费和模拟通信量费。（译注：派萨—印度、巴基斯坦、卡塔尔、马斯喀特和阿曼的货币单位，等于百分之一卢比）
I would probably name this as the TELECOM GAME being played by JIO.
Now coming to the Business tactics of JIO, Airtel Officials said that Reliance Jio had reduced the ringing time for outgoing calls to other networks, from 45 to 20 seconds only, leading to a lot of customer inconvenience since the calls are cut off even before the customer receives.
Once a customer receives a missed call, he/she usually calls back the originating operator's network. By converting such outgoing calls to incoming calls, they get interconnect usage charge which is 6 paise per minute and artificial traffic.
我昨天浏览了我的Insta，发现了一条关于JIO（印度第一大运营商）商业策略的有趣新闻。
我可能会把它命名为JIO正在玩的电信游戏。
现在说到JIO的商业策略，Airtel官员说，无线运营商Reliance Jio已经将向其他网络发出呼叫的振铃时间从45秒减少到20秒，导致许多客户不便，因为电话甚至在客户接听之前就被切断了。
一旦客户接到未接来电，他/她通常会回拨原始运营商的网络。通过将这些呼出电话转换为呼入电话，他们得到的是每分钟6 派萨的连接费和模拟通信量费。（译注：派萨—印度、巴基斯坦、卡塔尔、马斯喀特和阿曼的货币单位，等于百分之一卢比）
I was shocked for a second after reading this because a month ago I have also read that, Within three years of starting its commercial operations, Reliance Jio has become the country's largest telecom operator with a subscriber base of 331.3 million, surpassing Vodafone Idea which on Friday reported a decline in its user base to 320 million by June 2019. Jio has brought abrupt changes in the telecom industry in India but I was still wondering why would they do all this again.
After knowing this, I have tried calling my friend’s Airtel number from my Jio number and It just rang for 18 seconds before getting disconnected automatically. Also, I have tried calling my Jio number from my friend's Airtel number and it rang for 45 seconds before getting disconnected automatically.
Now I wasn’t sure if doing this is legal or not and if this is a dirty business tactic or not, but I wanted you people to know this.
I’ve come across the news that Airtel has also reduced its ringing time for outgoing calls as a counter action to Jio. Now the ring time for outgoing calls for both Jio and Airtel has become 22 - 25 secs.
读了这篇文章后，我震惊了一秒钟，因为一个月前，我还读到，在开始商业运营的三年内，Reliance Jio已经成为该国最大的电信运营商，拥有3.313亿用户，超过了Vodafone Idea（运营商）。Vodafone Idea上周五报告称，到2019年6月，其用户基数已降至3.2亿。Jio给印度的电信业带来了突如其来的变化，但我仍在想，他们为什么要再次这样做。
知道这一点后，我试着用我的Jio号码拨打我朋友的Airtel号码，它只响了18秒就自动断开了。此外，我试着从我的朋友的Airtel号码呼叫我的Jio号码，它响了45秒，然后自动断开连接。
现在我不确定这样做是否合法，这是否是下流卑鄙的商业策略，但我想让你们知道这一点。
我听说Airtel作为对Jio的反击也减少了拨打电话的时间。现在，Jio和Airtel拨出电话的响铃时间已经变为22-25秒。
After knowing this, I have tried calling my friend’s Airtel number from my Jio number and It just rang for 18 seconds before getting disconnected automatically. Also, I have tried calling my Jio number from my friend's Airtel number and it rang for 45 seconds before getting disconnected automatically.
Now I wasn’t sure if doing this is legal or not and if this is a dirty business tactic or not, but I wanted you people to know this.
I’ve come across the news that Airtel has also reduced its ringing time for outgoing calls as a counter action to Jio. Now the ring time for outgoing calls for both Jio and Airtel has become 22 - 25 secs.
读了这篇文章后，我震惊了一秒钟，因为一个月前，我还读到，在开始商业运营的三年内，Reliance Jio已经成为该国最大的电信运营商，拥有3.313亿用户，超过了Vodafone Idea（运营商）。Vodafone Idea上周五报告称，到2019年6月，其用户基数已降至3.2亿。Jio给印度的电信业带来了突如其来的变化，但我仍在想，他们为什么要再次这样做。
知道这一点后，我试着用我的Jio号码拨打我朋友的Airtel号码，它只响了18秒就自动断开了。此外，我试着从我的朋友的Airtel号码呼叫我的Jio号码，它响了45秒，然后自动断开连接。
现在我不确定这样做是否合法，这是否是下流卑鄙的商业策略，但我想让你们知道这一点。
我听说Airtel作为对Jio的反击也减少了拨打电话的时间。现在，Jio和Airtel拨出电话的响铃时间已经变为22-25秒。
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