网友讨论：美国婴儿配方奶粉为何短缺?
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america-az
I find it a little bit scary that a SINGLE PLANT going down can cause store shelves to be empty. Either 1) We trust abbot to promise to have better plant safety going forward (seems risky). 2) We change the laws to allow imports from Europe and Canada or 3) We need to break up this near-monopoly on baby formula production.
我发现一家工厂倒下就可能导致商店货架空空如也，这有点可怕。1)我们相信雅培公司承诺未来会提高工厂安全(似乎有风险)。2)我们修改法律，允许从欧洲和加拿大进口；3)我们需要打破婴儿配方奶粉生产的这种近乎垄断的局面。
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I find it a little bit scary that a SINGLE PLANT going down can cause store shelves to be empty. Either 1) We trust abbot to promise to have better plant safety going forward (seems risky). 2) We change the laws to allow imports from Europe and Canada or 3) We need to break up this near-monopoly on baby formula production.
我发现一家工厂倒下就可能导致商店货架空空如也，这有点可怕。1)我们相信雅培公司承诺未来会提高工厂安全(似乎有风险)。2)我们修改法律，允许从欧洲和加拿大进口；3)我们需要打破婴儿配方奶粉生产的这种近乎垄断的局面。
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Lepi Doptera
Just how much baby formula, do you think, is being produced in a country with very low fertility rate? It's not like infants are big eaters. Do you know anything about kids? ;-)
你认为一个生育率很低的国家到底生产了多少婴儿配方奶粉?婴儿又不是大胃王。你了解孩子吗?
Just how much baby formula, do you think, is being produced in a country with very low fertility rate? It's not like infants are big eaters. Do you know anything about kids? ;-)
你认为一个生育率很低的国家到底生产了多少婴儿配方奶粉?婴儿又不是大胃王。你了解孩子吗?
benjicool2808
open the market to foreign competition and it will be solved. The US is a weird country in that sense because it promotes a free market economy but is quite protectionist - this ends up in monopolies
向外国竞争开放市场，这个问题就会得到解决。从这个意义上说，美国是一个奇怪的国家，因为它提倡自由市场经济，但又相当保护主义——这最终会导致垄断。
open the market to foreign competition and it will be solved. The US is a weird country in that sense because it promotes a free market economy but is quite protectionist - this ends up in monopolies
向外国竞争开放市场，这个问题就会得到解决。从这个意义上说，美国是一个奇怪的国家，因为它提倡自由市场经济，但又相当保护主义——这最终会导致垄断。
Alastair Barkley
@benjicool2808
All trade blocs are protectionist. Protectionism works. It's the reason that, for example, the EU is so economically successful.
所有贸易集团都是保护主义者。保护主义行之有效。例如，这就是欧盟经济如此成功的原因。
@benjicool2808
All trade blocs are protectionist. Protectionism works. It's the reason that, for example, the EU is so economically successful.
所有贸易集团都是保护主义者。保护主义行之有效。例如，这就是欧盟经济如此成功的原因。
benjicool2808
@Alastair Barkley
not really the EU is so successful because of free movement and good market regulation. Protectionism only works if it allows to remove social dumping, but if it is to prevent more competitive/innovative products than there is absolutely no point of doing it.
欧盟之所以如此成功，并不是因为自由流动和良好的市场监管。保护主义只有在允许消除社会倾销的情况下才会起作用，但如果保护主义是为了阻止更有竞争力/创新的产品，那么保护主义就毫无意义了。
@Alastair Barkley
not really the EU is so successful because of free movement and good market regulation. Protectionism only works if it allows to remove social dumping, but if it is to prevent more competitive/innovative products than there is absolutely no point of doing it.
欧盟之所以如此成功，并不是因为自由流动和良好的市场监管。保护主义只有在允许消除社会倾销的情况下才会起作用，但如果保护主义是为了阻止更有竞争力/创新的产品，那么保护主义就毫无意义了。
T. R. Campbell
Why should we allow imports from Europe? Why not change the law and encourage more baby formula plants in the United States?
为什么我们要允许从欧洲进口?为什么不改变法律，鼓励在美国生产更多的婴儿配方奶粉?
Why should we allow imports from Europe? Why not change the law and encourage more baby formula plants in the United States?
为什么我们要允许从欧洲进口?为什么不改变法律，鼓励在美国生产更多的婴儿配方奶粉?
benjicool2808
@T. R. Campbell
its not a problem of incentive but of competition... Break down the monopolies and everything will be fine
这不是激励的问题，而是竞争的问题。打破垄断，一切都会好起来
@T. R. Campbell
its not a problem of incentive but of competition... Break down the monopolies and everything will be fine
这不是激励的问题，而是竞争的问题。打破垄断，一切都会好起来
s schi
WHY would europe want to export to the US??? We also had shortages here in germany some years back because china had the scandal with toxic formula and so chinese people started emptying our shelfs to send trustworthy german formula to china to sell there.
为什么欧洲要向美国出口?几年前，我们在德国也出现了短缺，因为中国发生了有毒配方奶粉的丑闻，所以中国人开始清空我们的货架，把值得信赖的德国配方奶粉送到中国销售。
WHY would europe want to export to the US??? We also had shortages here in germany some years back because china had the scandal with toxic formula and so chinese people started emptying our shelfs to send trustworthy german formula to china to sell there.
为什么欧洲要向美国出口?几年前，我们在德国也出现了短缺，因为中国发生了有毒配方奶粉的丑闻，所以中国人开始清空我们的货架，把值得信赖的德国配方奶粉送到中国销售。
benjicool2808
@Decider of Justice
there was a pretty good reason - it actually a standard procedure but it becomes a disaster when one plant provide so much of the supply
有一个很好的理由，这实际上是一个标准程序，但当一个工厂提供这么多的供应时，它就变成了一场灾难
@Decider of Justice
there was a pretty good reason - it actually a standard procedure but it becomes a disaster when one plant provide so much of the supply
有一个很好的理由，这实际上是一个标准程序，但当一个工厂提供这么多的供应时，它就变成了一场灾难
Michael Boucher
Will any of you feed your babies with baby formula for China.
你们谁会用中国的婴儿配方奶粉喂自己的孩子吗?
Will any of you feed your babies with baby formula for China.
你们谁会用中国的婴儿配方奶粉喂自己的孩子吗?
Floor Lava
@T. R. Campbell
Because the formula companies enjoy their monopoly. Ok, so how about we nationalize the production of formula seeing as it's an essential good that shouldn't have health corners cut or high profit margins. That way you could have a safe product and get it as cheep as possible.
因为配方奶粉公司享有垄断。好吧，那么我们把配方奶粉的生产国有化如何，因为它是一种必不可少的商品，它不应该削减健康方面的开支或存在高利润率。通过这种方式，你可以拥有一个安全的产品，并且尽可能便宜。
@T. R. Campbell
Because the formula companies enjoy their monopoly. Ok, so how about we nationalize the production of formula seeing as it's an essential good that shouldn't have health corners cut or high profit margins. That way you could have a safe product and get it as cheep as possible.
因为配方奶粉公司享有垄断。好吧，那么我们把配方奶粉的生产国有化如何，因为它是一种必不可少的商品，它不应该削减健康方面的开支或存在高利润率。通过这种方式，你可以拥有一个安全的产品，并且尽可能便宜。
bowittman
@T. R. Campbell
and lose all those campaign funds? You gotta be kidding. By the way Nestle owns Gerber and many other formula brands here and in EU. Nestle is one of the largest food producers in the world and they like their monopoly just fine.
然后失去所有的竞选资金？你在开玩笑吧。顺便说一下，雀巢在美国和欧洲拥有嘉宝和许多其他配方奶粉品牌。雀巢是世界上最大的食品生产商之一，他们很喜欢自己的垄断地位。
@T. R. Campbell
and lose all those campaign funds? You gotta be kidding. By the way Nestle owns Gerber and many other formula brands here and in EU. Nestle is one of the largest food producers in the world and they like their monopoly just fine.
然后失去所有的竞选资金？你在开玩笑吧。顺便说一下，雀巢在美国和欧洲拥有嘉宝和许多其他配方奶粉品牌。雀巢是世界上最大的食品生产商之一，他们很喜欢自己的垄断地位。
thingies4U
You left out 4) Promote and encourage mothers to breast feed. It's better for the child anyways.
你落了第4)点：促进和鼓励母亲母乳喂养。不管怎样，这样对孩子更好。
You left out 4) Promote and encourage mothers to breast feed. It's better for the child anyways.
你落了第4)点：促进和鼓励母亲母乳喂养。不管怎样，这样对孩子更好。
Toula MacCrue
I would avoid that company. Just hearing about how 2 infants dying was horrifying. Those poor parents.
我会避开那家公司。听到两个婴儿的死亡令人极其震惊。那些父母真怜。
I would avoid that company. Just hearing about how 2 infants dying was horrifying. Those poor parents.
我会避开那家公司。听到两个婴儿的死亡令人极其震惊。那些父母真怜。
Toula MacCrue
@benjicool2808
oh definitely There are other brands out there which I don't het why they make it sound like Abbott is the only company.
哦，肯定还有其他品牌，我不知道为什么他们让人觉得雅培是唯一的公司。
@benjicool2808
oh definitely There are other brands out there which I don't het why they make it sound like Abbott is the only company.
哦，肯定还有其他品牌，我不知道为什么他们让人觉得雅培是唯一的公司。
benjicool2808
@Toula MacCrue
it's actually on oligopoly, which is also a form of market failure (and a sort of monopoly) So yeah trying to be a smart ass didn't work here
实际上是寡头垄断，这也是市场失灵的一种表现(和垄断的一种)，所以，装聪明在这里行不通
@Toula MacCrue
it's actually on oligopoly, which is also a form of market failure (and a sort of monopoly) So yeah trying to be a smart ass didn't work here
实际上是寡头垄断，这也是市场失灵的一种表现(和垄断的一种)，所以，装聪明在这里行不通
wayne
consolidation of power , it is why the standard oil was broken up , but in the corporation of american states that no longer happens ..
巩固权力，这就是为什么标准石油公司被拆分，但在美国，这种情况再未发生。
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consolidation of power , it is why the standard oil was broken up , but in the corporation of american states that no longer happens ..
巩固权力，这就是为什么标准石油公司被拆分，但在美国，这种情况再未发生。
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S6
I like your points. I really do hope that 2) import from other safe FDA approved places. 3) the formula pricing and distribution needs to change for the better for us in the USA .
我喜欢你的观点。我真的希望2)从其他FDA批准的安全地方进口。3)我们在美国的定价和分销模式需要改变。
I like your points. I really do hope that 2) import from other safe FDA approved places. 3) the formula pricing and distribution needs to change for the better for us in the USA .
我喜欢你的观点。我真的希望2)从其他FDA批准的安全地方进口。3)我们在美国的定价和分销模式需要改变。
Dan M
What happened to breast feeding? Is that not a thing anymore?
母乳喂养有问题吗?这种方式已经不存在了吗?
What happened to breast feeding? Is that not a thing anymore?
母乳喂养有问题吗?这种方式已经不存在了吗?
Heart Of The Wild
Almost everything in the US is a monopoly at this point. And they all need to be broken up. Food, cars, shelter, technology, etc. We’re only just now getting closer to being able to get our iPhones fixed without having to pay Apple and fend off their attempts to get us to buy a completely new (and comparatively worse) phone because “these old models aren’t going to be supported much longer” (AKA, “we’re going to make it stop working soon and you won’t be able to fix it no matter what you do, just so that you have to buy an even more expensive one that doesn’t even have the features you want because screw you, give us money!)
The thing is, we have laws about this, but they don’t get enforced because these monopolies are bribing the government with “political donations.” Which is also why they’re being allowed to shuffle their money around to dodge taxes and avoid paying their investors.
目前，美国几乎所有行业都处于垄断状态。它们都应该被拆分。食物、汽车、住所、科技等行业都是如此。我们才刚刚接近能够在不必向苹果支付费用的情况下修复我们的iPhone，并避开他们试图让我们购买一款全新（相对更糟糕）手机的企图，因为“这些老机型不会被支持运行太久”(也就是，“我们很快就会让它停止运行，你无论做什么都无法修复，所以你不得不买一个更贵的，甚至没有你想要的功能，因为给我滚蛋，给钱!”)
Almost everything in the US is a monopoly at this point. And they all need to be broken up. Food, cars, shelter, technology, etc. We’re only just now getting closer to being able to get our iPhones fixed without having to pay Apple and fend off their attempts to get us to buy a completely new (and comparatively worse) phone because “these old models aren’t going to be supported much longer” (AKA, “we’re going to make it stop working soon and you won’t be able to fix it no matter what you do, just so that you have to buy an even more expensive one that doesn’t even have the features you want because screw you, give us money!)
The thing is, we have laws about this, but they don’t get enforced because these monopolies are bribing the government with “political donations.” Which is also why they’re being allowed to shuffle their money around to dodge taxes and avoid paying their investors.
目前，美国几乎所有行业都处于垄断状态。它们都应该被拆分。食物、汽车、住所、科技等行业都是如此。我们才刚刚接近能够在不必向苹果支付费用的情况下修复我们的iPhone，并避开他们试图让我们购买一款全新（相对更糟糕）手机的企图，因为“这些老机型不会被支持运行太久”(也就是，“我们很快就会让它停止运行，你无论做什么都无法修复，所以你不得不买一个更贵的，甚至没有你想要的功能，因为给我滚蛋，给钱!”)
Caterfree10
of these options, importability would be the most immediate solution, but break up the big companies is needed for long term stability. This is why anti trust laws exist! Why are they not being enforced???
在这些选择中，可进口将是最直接的解决方案，但为了长期稳定，需要拆分大公司。这就是反托拉斯法存在的原因!为什么不强制执行?
of these options, importability would be the most immediate solution, but break up the big companies is needed for long term stability. This is why anti trust laws exist! Why are they not being enforced???
在这些选择中，可进口将是最直接的解决方案，但为了长期稳定，需要拆分大公司。这就是反托拉斯法存在的原因!为什么不强制执行?
Dominick Cizek
IT IS VERY EXPENSIVE TO BUILD THESE SUPER CLEAN PLANTS, NOT ENOUGH DEMAND TO SUPPORT MORE PLANTS, ALSO "Trump bears much of the blame for the current shortage of baby formula in the U.S, since his Administration's USMCA free trade agreement has made it virtually IMPOSSIBLE for our country to import infant formula from Canada," tweeted Jon Cooper, a prominent Barack Obama fundraiser and former National Finance Chair of Draft Biden 2016.
建造这些超级清洁的工厂非常昂贵，不仅没有足够的需求来支持更多的工厂，而且“特朗普对目前美国婴儿配方奶粉短缺负有很大责任，因为他的政府的《美加自由贸易协定》使我们国家几乎不可能从加拿大进口婴儿配方奶粉。”著名的巴拉克·奥巴马筹款人、2016年拜登草案国家财政委员会前主席乔恩·库珀在推特上写道。
IT IS VERY EXPENSIVE TO BUILD THESE SUPER CLEAN PLANTS, NOT ENOUGH DEMAND TO SUPPORT MORE PLANTS, ALSO "Trump bears much of the blame for the current shortage of baby formula in the U.S, since his Administration's USMCA free trade agreement has made it virtually IMPOSSIBLE for our country to import infant formula from Canada," tweeted Jon Cooper, a prominent Barack Obama fundraiser and former National Finance Chair of Draft Biden 2016.
建造这些超级清洁的工厂非常昂贵，不仅没有足够的需求来支持更多的工厂，而且“特朗普对目前美国婴儿配方奶粉短缺负有很大责任，因为他的政府的《美加自由贸易协定》使我们国家几乎不可能从加拿大进口婴儿配方奶粉。”著名的巴拉克·奥巴马筹款人、2016年拜登草案国家财政委员会前主席乔恩·库珀在推特上写道。
Russ Grant
Or 4) allow post birth abortions
或者允许产后堕胎
Or 4) allow post birth abortions
或者允许产后堕胎
Twig
@s schi
that wasnt exclusive to Germany. All of Europe had shortages due to the Chinese buying up the products.
这并不是德国独有的。由于中国人抢购了所有的产品，整个欧洲都出现了短缺。
@s schi
that wasnt exclusive to Germany. All of Europe had shortages due to the Chinese buying up the products.
这并不是德国独有的。由于中国人抢购了所有的产品，整个欧洲都出现了短缺。
Carlton Fleters
Biden could easily be re-elected by this baby formula disaster.
During Sleepy Joe's campaign he could rub a little baby formula on his jowls.
拜登可能会因为这场婴儿配方奶粉灾难而轻松连任。
在瞌睡虫乔的竞选活动中，他可以在自己的下巴上擦一点婴儿配方奶粉。
Biden could easily be re-elected by this baby formula disaster.
During Sleepy Joe's campaign he could rub a little baby formula on his jowls.
拜登可能会因为这场婴儿配方奶粉灾难而轻松连任。
在瞌睡虫乔的竞选活动中，他可以在自己的下巴上擦一点婴儿配方奶粉。
Lopez
Because congress has so much invested in abbott that they wont let any other company compete !it would hurt their profit margin!!
因为国会在雅培身上投入了太多，所以他们不会让其他公司参与竞争!这将有损他们的利润率!!
Because congress has so much invested in abbott that they wont let any other company compete !it would hurt their profit margin!!
因为国会在雅培身上投入了太多，所以他们不会让其他公司参与竞争!这将有损他们的利润率!!
Carlton Fleters
@Clarence Perry
Sure its pathetic our fine American Folks can't understand simple things causing much problems.
"we" be the ones that puts the fox in charge of the hen-house, by electing these folks that creates these crisis.
We need not get spastic, just common sense, prayers and good will can relieve much.
Then Vote Responsible.
当然，可悲的是，我们优秀的美国人民不能理解简单的事情会带来很多问题。
@Clarence Perry
Sure its pathetic our fine American Folks can't understand simple things causing much problems.
"we" be the ones that puts the fox in charge of the hen-house, by electing these folks that creates these crisis.
We need not get spastic, just common sense, prayers and good will can relieve much.
Then Vote Responsible.
当然，可悲的是，我们优秀的美国人民不能理解简单的事情会带来很多问题。
………………………………
Cory Hrycuna
Yet another tragic side effect of high market concentration of essential products. If one company stops production a whole swathe of people will be left without. We need more smaller companies and market competition to ensure stable, resilient supply of these products
这是必需品市场高度集中的另一个悲剧性副作用。如果一家公司停产，那么一大群人就会失业。我们需要更多的小公司和市场竞争，以确保这些产品的稳定、有弹性的供应
Cory Hrycuna
Yet another tragic side effect of high market concentration of essential products. If one company stops production a whole swathe of people will be left without. We need more smaller companies and market competition to ensure stable, resilient supply of these products
这是必需品市场高度集中的另一个悲剧性副作用。如果一家公司停产，那么一大群人就会失业。我们需要更多的小公司和市场竞争，以确保这些产品的稳定、有弹性的供应
Danielle Symons
I have inverted nipples. Even the nurses couldn’t get any milk out. One pro-breastfeeding nurse even tried to extract milk with a needle free syringe! I asked for formula for my baby and she wasn’t hearing it. I said I’d love to， but I had the same issue with my first two children ，she took this as a go to do whatever she thought best. Regardless of what I wanted. At this point my baby had been born 12 hours before and hadn’t had anything to drink. Ridiculous. Some people just can’t breastfeed.
我有倒乳头。就连护士也弄不出奶水来。一位支持母乳喂养的护士甚至试图用无针注射器抽奶!我要给我的孩子买奶粉，她根本不听。我说我很愿意母乳喂养，但我在喂前两个孩子也有同样的问题，她认为这是她应该去做的最好的事，却不管我想怎么做。那时我的孩子已经出生12个小时了，还没有喝任何东西。太荒谬了。有些人就是不能母乳喂养。
（译注：倒乳头，指乳头不突出，但向内凹陷。）
I have inverted nipples. Even the nurses couldn’t get any milk out. One pro-breastfeeding nurse even tried to extract milk with a needle free syringe! I asked for formula for my baby and she wasn’t hearing it. I said I’d love to， but I had the same issue with my first two children ，she took this as a go to do whatever she thought best. Regardless of what I wanted. At this point my baby had been born 12 hours before and hadn’t had anything to drink. Ridiculous. Some people just can’t breastfeed.
我有倒乳头。就连护士也弄不出奶水来。一位支持母乳喂养的护士甚至试图用无针注射器抽奶!我要给我的孩子买奶粉，她根本不听。我说我很愿意母乳喂养，但我在喂前两个孩子也有同样的问题，她认为这是她应该去做的最好的事，却不管我想怎么做。那时我的孩子已经出生12个小时了，还没有喝任何东西。太荒谬了。有些人就是不能母乳喂养。
（译注：倒乳头，指乳头不突出，但向内凹陷。）
irene janith
So sorry you went through that. Cannot stand the breastfeeding nuts. So many women cannot produce enough or simple don’t feel comfortable doing it! I have twins and the breastfeeding instructor told me to latch them both on at the same time dreadful. I’m one of the “entitled” few who simply didn’t like breastfeeding. So I didn’t! My twins are 3 now and have had nothing but formula all but twice and they are just fine (: Mom shaming at this point is so yucky!
为你经历这些而难过。受不了母乳喂养的胡说。所以很多女性不能生产足够多的奶水，或者只是觉得奶孩子不舒服!我有一对双胞胎，哺乳教练告诉我要同时把他们两个都抱起来…糟透了。我是为数不多的不喜欢母乳喂养的人之一。所以我没这么做!我的双胞胎现在3岁了，除了两次母乳外，他们都很好，没啥问题。妈妈在这一点上感到羞愧真恶心!
So sorry you went through that. Cannot stand the breastfeeding nuts. So many women cannot produce enough or simple don’t feel comfortable doing it! I have twins and the breastfeeding instructor told me to latch them both on at the same time dreadful. I’m one of the “entitled” few who simply didn’t like breastfeeding. So I didn’t! My twins are 3 now and have had nothing but formula all but twice and they are just fine (: Mom shaming at this point is so yucky!
为你经历这些而难过。受不了母乳喂养的胡说。所以很多女性不能生产足够多的奶水，或者只是觉得奶孩子不舒服!我有一对双胞胎，哺乳教练告诉我要同时把他们两个都抱起来…糟透了。我是为数不多的不喜欢母乳喂养的人之一。所以我没这么做!我的双胞胎现在3岁了，除了两次母乳外，他们都很好，没啥问题。妈妈在这一点上感到羞愧真恶心!
Danielle Symons
@irene janith
thanx so much for saying that. Having inverted nipples sucks but yeah I mean for my mental health it was better to do the bottle. It takes away the anxiety of them not getting enough milk. Whatever your choice I think in this day and age you should be able to choose. Even if I had been able to breastfeed I probably would’ve chosen not to. It’s less stressful. Or I would’ve done a bit of both. Who knows. But for people to dictate to you about your body… make me angry. I can’t imagine feeding twins. But I guess we all adapt to our own personal circumstances. However we all get through those early days is very personal and very wrong to judge anyone for it.
谢谢你这么说。倒乳头很难受，但是我的意思是为了我的心理健康，还是用奶瓶比较好。这消除了他们喝不到足够奶水的焦虑。我认为在这个时代，无论你选择什么，你都应该有选择的权利。即使我有能力母乳喂养，我可能也不会选择这样做。因为没那么大压力了。或者两种方式我都采用。谁知道呢。但是别人对你的身体指手画脚……让我很生气。我无法想象喂双胞胎。但我想我们都适应自己的个人状况。然而，我们所有人都经历了那些早期的日子，这是非常私人的，这样评价别人是不对的。
@irene janith
thanx so much for saying that. Having inverted nipples sucks but yeah I mean for my mental health it was better to do the bottle. It takes away the anxiety of them not getting enough milk. Whatever your choice I think in this day and age you should be able to choose. Even if I had been able to breastfeed I probably would’ve chosen not to. It’s less stressful. Or I would’ve done a bit of both. Who knows. But for people to dictate to you about your body… make me angry. I can’t imagine feeding twins. But I guess we all adapt to our own personal circumstances. However we all get through those early days is very personal and very wrong to judge anyone for it.
谢谢你这么说。倒乳头很难受，但是我的意思是为了我的心理健康，还是用奶瓶比较好。这消除了他们喝不到足够奶水的焦虑。我认为在这个时代，无论你选择什么，你都应该有选择的权利。即使我有能力母乳喂养，我可能也不会选择这样做。因为没那么大压力了。或者两种方式我都采用。谁知道呢。但是别人对你的身体指手画脚……让我很生气。我无法想象喂双胞胎。但我想我们都适应自己的个人状况。然而，我们所有人都经历了那些早期的日子，这是非常私人的，这样评价别人是不对的。
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@Delatelin
Says the one that probably can't breastfeed
一个可能不能母乳喂养的人还这么说
@Delatelin
Says the one that probably can't breastfeed
一个可能不能母乳喂养的人还这么说
Panama Princess
You were abused and traumatized by this nurse!
你被这个护士虐待和伤害了!
You were abused and traumatized by this nurse!
你被这个护士虐待和伤害了!
gemini rose
LA LECHE LEAGUE share the milk
国际母乳协会分享奶水吧。
LA LECHE LEAGUE share the milk
国际母乳协会分享奶水吧。
………………………………
Panthers1521
Dealing with a rough economy is one this, but being unable to feed babies is monumentally disastrous.
应对糟糕的经济是一个困难，但无法喂养婴儿是一场巨大的灾难。
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Panthers1521
Dealing with a rough economy is one this, but being unable to feed babies is monumentally disastrous.
应对糟糕的经济是一个困难，但无法喂养婴儿是一场巨大的灾难。
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MaD Matt
this is exactly why we used to have laws that prevented monopolies over industry and laws that promoted fair competition. when you only have two or three suppliers of high volume product and one goes down, this is the result.
这就是为什么我们过去有防止行业垄断和促进公平竞争的法律。当你只有两到三家供应大量产品的供应商，而其中一家倒闭了，这就是后果。
this is exactly why we used to have laws that prevented monopolies over industry and laws that promoted fair competition. when you only have two or three suppliers of high volume product and one goes down, this is the result.
这就是为什么我们过去有防止行业垄断和促进公平竞争的法律。当你只有两到三家供应大量产品的供应商，而其中一家倒闭了，这就是后果。
Lisa Calvert
Not even during the depression, the 40's,50's,60's and so on has there ever been a shortage of Pablum, Enfamil, Similac and any other formula. This is ludicrous. I pray for every Mother who just gave birth that their babies are fed and healthy and that this never happens again. Maybe they should ship what's at the border back to where they took it from. Next will be price gauging for the cost to ship it here from Europe. Breast feeding is not for everyone!!
即使是在大萧条时期，40年代，50年代，60年代等等，Pablum, 美赞臣奶粉, 雅培奶粉和其他配方奶粉也从来没有短缺过。这很可笑。我为每一位刚生完孩子的母亲祈祷，希望她们的孩子能吃得饱，身体健康，这样的事情不会再发生。也许他们应该把边境上的东西运回去。下一步将是对从欧洲运到这里的成本进行定价。母乳喂养并不适合每个人!!
Not even during the depression, the 40's,50's,60's and so on has there ever been a shortage of Pablum, Enfamil, Similac and any other formula. This is ludicrous. I pray for every Mother who just gave birth that their babies are fed and healthy and that this never happens again. Maybe they should ship what's at the border back to where they took it from. Next will be price gauging for the cost to ship it here from Europe. Breast feeding is not for everyone!!
即使是在大萧条时期，40年代，50年代，60年代等等，Pablum, 美赞臣奶粉, 雅培奶粉和其他配方奶粉也从来没有短缺过。这很可笑。我为每一位刚生完孩子的母亲祈祷，希望她们的孩子能吃得饱，身体健康，这样的事情不会再发生。也许他们应该把边境上的东西运回去。下一步将是对从欧洲运到这里的成本进行定价。母乳喂养并不适合每个人!!
M G
America you voted into office a 78-year-old who literally has Alzheimer's disease. What did you expect was going to happen?
美国，你们选了一位78岁的老年痴呆症患者。发生这种事很奇怪吗?
America you voted into office a 78-year-old who literally has Alzheimer's disease. What did you expect was going to happen?
美国，你们选了一位78岁的老年痴呆症患者。发生这种事很奇怪吗?
Sylvia Street
I saw that Johnson and Johnson’s formula could have cause deadly blot clots! If this is true they should be out of business! And pay millions to the families of the deceased babies! The money would not bring the babies back but it would make the other companies more careful about the safety of their formula!Parents unite and stand up to Big Tech!
我看到强生和强生的配方可能会导致致命的血块!如果这是真的，他们应该关门大吉!给死去婴儿的家庭几百万!这笔钱不会让婴儿活过来，但会让其他公司更加注意他们配方奶粉的安全!家长们团结起来，对抗大型科技公司!
I saw that Johnson and Johnson’s formula could have cause deadly blot clots! If this is true they should be out of business! And pay millions to the families of the deceased babies! The money would not bring the babies back but it would make the other companies more careful about the safety of their formula!Parents unite and stand up to Big Tech!
我看到强生和强生的配方可能会导致致命的血块!如果这是真的，他们应该关门大吉!给死去婴儿的家庭几百万!这笔钱不会让婴儿活过来，但会让其他公司更加注意他们配方奶粉的安全!家长们团结起来，对抗大型科技公司!
Zach Thomas
Why have we not enforced antitrust laws? No one sees a problem that one company owns almost half the market and it’s shitty polices forces national shortages? Wasn’t this exactly what the laws were for? When you see anti consumer behavior?
为什么我们不执行反垄断法?一家公司几乎占据了一半的市场，而糟糕的政策导致了全国性的短缺，没人觉得这是个问题吗?当你看到反消费者行为时，这不正是法律要解决的吗?
Why have we not enforced antitrust laws? No one sees a problem that one company owns almost half the market and it’s shitty polices forces national shortages? Wasn’t this exactly what the laws were for? When you see anti consumer behavior?
为什么我们不执行反垄断法?一家公司几乎占据了一半的市场，而糟糕的政策导致了全国性的短缺，没人觉得这是个问题吗?当你看到反消费者行为时，这不正是法律要解决的吗?
Stuart Smith
Is it difficult for families to make their own baby food? What did families do before there was formula?
家庭自己做婴儿食品难吗?在配方奶粉出现之前，家庭都做些什么?
Is it difficult for families to make their own baby food? What did families do before there was formula?
家庭自己做婴儿食品难吗?在配方奶粉出现之前，家庭都做些什么?
Alex M
Importing formula from Germany or France should be a no-brainer. Their healthcodes are same or better than the US.
从德国或法国进口配方奶粉应该是显而易见的。他们的健康代码和美国一样，甚至更好。
Importing formula from Germany or France should be a no-brainer. Their healthcodes are same or better than the US.
从德国或法国进口配方奶粉应该是显而易见的。他们的健康代码和美国一样，甚至更好。
Phedre Joseph
This is what happens when a corporations have a monopoly and Corners the market on a product and then when it can't feed the people we're left asking why. How's about some competition? And more than four company's.
这就是当一个公司垄断了某一产品的市场，当它不能满足人们的需求时，我们就会问为什么。来点竞争怎么样?至少应该要有四家以上的竞争公司。
This is what happens when a corporations have a monopoly and Corners the market on a product and then when it can't feed the people we're left asking why. How's about some competition? And more than four company's.
这就是当一个公司垄断了某一产品的市场，当它不能满足人们的需求时，我们就会问为什么。来点竞争怎么样?至少应该要有四家以上的竞争公司。
metaglypto
This was far more avoidable than a recent pandemic I heard about.
这远比我听说的最近的一场大流行更容易避免。
This was far more avoidable than a recent pandemic I heard about.
这远比我听说的最近的一场大流行更容易避免。
Jackie J
This is what happens when companies have a Monopoly in their industry… Horrible. I can’t imagine what I would do in this situation. I would absolutely panic.
当公司在他们的行业中垄断时就会发生这样的事情……太可怕了。我无法想象在这种情况下我会怎么做。我绝对会惊慌失措。
This is what happens when companies have a Monopoly in their industry… Horrible. I can’t imagine what I would do in this situation. I would absolutely panic.
当公司在他们的行业中垄断时就会发生这样的事情……太可怕了。我无法想象在这种情况下我会怎么做。我绝对会惊慌失措。
Idhune Pijl
I expect a lot more problems worldwide with food supply, combined with inflation... its going to be bad.
我预计全球食品供应会出现更多问题，再加上通货膨胀……会很糟糕的。
I expect a lot more problems worldwide with food supply, combined with inflation... its going to be bad.
我预计全球食品供应会出现更多问题，再加上通货膨胀……会很糟糕的。
Shadow Of Pain
This is what you actually get when everything is beholden to share holder’s the slightest hiccup.
To satisfy them the cost is an outrage no difference than the cat food costing more than tuna let that sink in.
A big beef farmer was saying how he had no rise in his input cost and had not raised his prices a cent yet what you are being charged was out of control.
And everyone is willing to blame everyone and everything especially if it plays politics but not the actual cause so it don’t happen again.
These big businesses are failing every American.
这就是当所有事情都要归功于股东最轻微的打嗝时，你真正所能得到的结果。
让他们满意的代价是令人愤慨的，这和猫粮比金枪鱼贵没什么区别。
一个大的肉牛农场主说他的投入成本没有增加，价格也没有提高一分钱，但你被收取的费用却失控了。
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This is what you actually get when everything is beholden to share holder’s the slightest hiccup.
To satisfy them the cost is an outrage no difference than the cat food costing more than tuna let that sink in.
A big beef farmer was saying how he had no rise in his input cost and had not raised his prices a cent yet what you are being charged was out of control.
And everyone is willing to blame everyone and everything especially if it plays politics but not the actual cause so it don’t happen again.
These big businesses are failing every American.
这就是当所有事情都要归功于股东最轻微的打嗝时，你真正所能得到的结果。
让他们满意的代价是令人愤慨的，这和猫粮比金枪鱼贵没什么区别。
一个大的肉牛农场主说他的投入成本没有增加，价格也没有提高一分钱，但你被收取的费用却失控了。
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JourneyMan Smitty
These are the worst times to have a babies it's even crazy when you can't feed your children
现在是生孩子最糟糕的时候，当你不能喂饱自己的孩子时，更令人发疯。
These are the worst times to have a babies it's even crazy when you can't feed your children
现在是生孩子最糟糕的时候，当你不能喂饱自己的孩子时，更令人发疯。
Goran Hikl
I would like if someone can explain how did generations after generations grow up without formula and now they are convincing people that they should not be using any other source of milk.
我希望有人能解释一下，为什么一代又一代的人在没有配方奶的情况下长大的，现在他们正在说服人们，他们不应该使用任何其他来源的牛奶。
I would like if someone can explain how did generations after generations grow up without formula and now they are convincing people that they should not be using any other source of milk.
我希望有人能解释一下，为什么一代又一代的人在没有配方奶的情况下长大的，现在他们正在说服人们，他们不应该使用任何其他来源的牛奶。
Dragon420
That story was "well-formulated".
这种描述是“精心策划的”。
That story was "well-formulated".
这种描述是“精心策划的”。
5050 ODDZ PROSPECTING
I've never seen Parents attacked so much in my life. One way or another it boils down to being deliberate.
我这辈子从没见过父母被攻击得这么厉害。不管怎样，这都归结为有意为之。
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I've never seen Parents attacked so much in my life. One way or another it boils down to being deliberate.
我这辈子从没见过父母被攻击得这么厉害。不管怎样，这都归结为有意为之。
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DOS
One Abbot Plant produces about 45% of the Infant formula for the whole country? That is just nuts! And that in a nutshell is the problem. The "formula" for formula cant be so complex that it can't be made at many smaller facilities around the country much more local to the markets being served without hundreds of miles of product transportation.
一家雅培工厂生产了全国45%的婴儿配方奶粉?简直是疯了!简而言之，这就是问题所在。配方奶粉的“配方”不能太复杂，以至于不能在全国许多更贴近市场的小型工厂生产，这些市场无需数百英里的产品运输。
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One Abbot Plant produces about 45% of the Infant formula for the whole country? That is just nuts! And that in a nutshell is the problem. The "formula" for formula cant be so complex that it can't be made at many smaller facilities around the country much more local to the markets being served without hundreds of miles of product transportation.
一家雅培工厂生产了全国45%的婴儿配方奶粉?简直是疯了!简而言之，这就是问题所在。配方奶粉的“配方”不能太复杂，以至于不能在全国许多更贴近市场的小型工厂生产，这些市场无需数百英里的产品运输。
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Free girl
See, that's why we need to decentralize shit like this. If there are like 3 big plants making all the baby food and one shuts down, this happens. And this could literally happen in all kinds of subjects like food, clothing, care products, ....
这就是为什么我们要去中心化这些破事。如果有3家生产婴儿食品的大工厂，其中一家关闭了，就会发生这种情况。这可能发生在所有的领域，比如食物，衣服，护理产品……
See, that's why we need to decentralize shit like this. If there are like 3 big plants making all the baby food and one shuts down, this happens. And this could literally happen in all kinds of subjects like food, clothing, care products, ....
这就是为什么我们要去中心化这些破事。如果有3家生产婴儿食品的大工厂，其中一家关闭了，就会发生这种情况。这可能发生在所有的领域，比如食物，衣服，护理产品……
Debbie
Impeach them all...
弹劾他们所有人……
Impeach them all...
弹劾他们所有人……
Pyladin
This is what happens when you centralise everything. When you build such big plants, shit like this will happen. How best to get security is something that most of USA really have a problem understanding.
这就是当你集中化所有事情时会发生的。当你建这么大的工厂时，就会发生这种事。如何最好地获得安全是大多数美国人真正难以理解的事情。
This is what happens when you centralise everything. When you build such big plants, shit like this will happen. How best to get security is something that most of USA really have a problem understanding.
这就是当你集中化所有事情时会发生的。当你建这么大的工厂时，就会发生这种事。如何最好地获得安全是大多数美国人真正难以理解的事情。
Twig
Well, its starting to look like aid to a developing nation.
好吧，开始看起来像援助一个发展中国家了。
Well, its starting to look like aid to a developing nation.
好吧，开始看起来像援助一个发展中国家了。
Suzi Paloozie
Substitute in emergency bbies fmla
1 13-ounce can (354 mL) full-fat evaporated milk
2 ⅓ cups (19 fluid ounces // 562 mL) clean water, preferably slightly warm
2 tablespoons blackstrap molasses or granulated sugar or karo syrup
婴儿配方奶粉的紧急替代配方：
1.一罐13盎司(354毫升)的全脂淡炼乳；
2.1/3杯(19液盎司//562毫升)清水，最好是微温的；
3.两汤匙黑糖蜜或砂糖或卡罗糖浆
Substitute in emergency bbies fmla
1 13-ounce can (354 mL) full-fat evaporated milk
2 ⅓ cups (19 fluid ounces // 562 mL) clean water, preferably slightly warm
2 tablespoons blackstrap molasses or granulated sugar or karo syrup
婴儿配方奶粉的紧急替代配方：
1.一罐13盎司(354毫升)的全脂淡炼乳；
2.1/3杯(19液盎司//562毫升)清水，最好是微温的；
3.两汤匙黑糖蜜或砂糖或卡罗糖浆
【J. JULIAN 】
the problem here is the big companies monopoly....and it happens with more regular products we think....
问题在于大公司的垄断……我们认为这发生在更多的常规产品上
the problem here is the big companies monopoly....and it happens with more regular products we think....
问题在于大公司的垄断……我们认为这发生在更多的常规产品上
Lisa Kirkham
In a pinch, babies over six months — with no known allergies — can have pasteurized whole-milk cow’s milk for a brief period of time until parents are able to find formula. While not ideal in large part because it does not provide sufficient iron, it’s preferable to offering them homemade formula or diluting store-bought formula with water, Dr. Abrams said
在紧急情况下，6个月以上的婴儿——没有已知过敏症——可以用巴氏消毒全脂牛奶一段时间，直到父母能够找到配方奶。艾布拉姆斯博士说，虽然这在很大程度上并不理想，因为它不能提供足够的铁元素，这比给他们自制的配方奶或在商店买的配方奶加水稀释更好。
In a pinch, babies over six months — with no known allergies — can have pasteurized whole-milk cow’s milk for a brief period of time until parents are able to find formula. While not ideal in large part because it does not provide sufficient iron, it’s preferable to offering them homemade formula or diluting store-bought formula with water, Dr. Abrams said
在紧急情况下，6个月以上的婴儿——没有已知过敏症——可以用巴氏消毒全脂牛奶一段时间，直到父母能够找到配方奶。艾布拉姆斯博士说，虽然这在很大程度上并不理想，因为它不能提供足够的铁元素，这比给他们自制的配方奶或在商店买的配方奶加水稀释更好。
OceanLily
How was one company allowed to control almost half the ?
一家公司怎么会被允许控制近一半的奶粉?
How was one company allowed to control almost half the ?
一家公司怎么会被允许控制近一半的奶粉?
Traumflug
I wonder how my parents managed to keep me alive. When I was an infant, things like baby formula barely existed at all.
我想知道我父母是怎么让我活下来的。当我还是个婴儿的时候，像婴儿配方奶粉这样的东西几乎不存在。
I wonder how my parents managed to keep me alive. When I was an infant, things like baby formula barely existed at all.
我想知道我父母是怎么让我活下来的。当我还是个婴儿的时候，像婴儿配方奶粉这样的东西几乎不存在。
John Johnson
It's more than just a single plant recall. It's that it took months for the FDA to even investigate and then they had no plan in place for the recall.
这不仅仅是一起工厂召回事件。问题是FDA花了几个月的时间来调查，然后他们没有召回的计划。
It's more than just a single plant recall. It's that it took months for the FDA to even investigate and then they had no plan in place for the recall.
这不仅仅是一起工厂召回事件。问题是FDA花了几个月的时间来调查，然后他们没有召回的计划。
ST7A Bad Karma
Because of Joe Biden. Last SEPTEMBER there were rumblings about baby formula shortages. Again in FEBRUARY. No action by Brandon until now.
都是因为乔·拜登。去年9月，有传言称婴儿配方奶粉短缺。2月份传言再次出现。拜登到现在还没有行动。
Because of Joe Biden. Last SEPTEMBER there were rumblings about baby formula shortages. Again in FEBRUARY. No action by Brandon until now.
都是因为乔·拜登。去年9月，有传言称婴儿配方奶粉短缺。2月份传言再次出现。拜登到现在还没有行动。
Dorely Herrera
This is so sad I have a 8 months old granddaughter and Know baby formula Lord protect all these babies that need there nutrition
这太悲哀了，我有一个8个月大的孙女，确信婴儿配方奶粉的上帝会保护所有这些需要营养的婴儿。
This is so sad I have a 8 months old granddaughter and Know baby formula Lord protect all these babies that need there nutrition
这太悲哀了，我有一个8个月大的孙女，确信婴儿配方奶粉的上帝会保护所有这些需要营养的婴儿。
João Rangel
Reason for no imports :"Some concerns that differences in the labelling would cause confusion" seriously?
不进口的理由:“一些人担心标签的差异会造成混淆”，认真的吗?
Reason for no imports :"Some concerns that differences in the labelling would cause confusion" seriously?
不进口的理由:“一些人担心标签的差异会造成混淆”，认真的吗?
Krizzle
The manufacture and supply of critical-goods needs to be more closely monitored and ensured by the the US government to ensure availability/surplus always. No more single point of failure for critical goods.
关键产品的生产和供应需要由美国政府更密切地监控和确保安全，以保证可用和无匮乏之虞。关键产品不要再出现单点失效的情况了。
The manufacture and supply of critical-goods needs to be more closely monitored and ensured by the the US government to ensure availability/surplus always. No more single point of failure for critical goods.
关键产品的生产和供应需要由美国政府更密切地监控和确保安全，以保证可用和无匮乏之虞。关键产品不要再出现单点失效的情况了。
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