QA问答:随着罗诉韦德案的推翻,这是否能使美国再次伟大起来?
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With Roe v. Wade overturned, has that made America great again?
随着罗诉韦德案的推翻,这是否能使美国再次伟大起来?
With Roe v. Wade overturned, has that made America great again?
随着罗诉韦德案的推翻,这是否能使美国再次伟大起来?
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Jeff Redman
I think not.
Something happened just today that make me think not.
My daughter and her children (the oldest is 16) have always put on and participated in HUGE 4th of July celebrations. Block parties, all the neighbors celebrating together, closed streets, twelve barbecues on front lawns, thousands of dollars worth of fireworks being set off all along the block.
我认为不会。
今天发生了一件事情,让我认为这不会。
我的女儿和她的孩子(最大的16岁)穿上衣服参加盛大的7月4日庆祝活动。街区聚会,所有邻居一起庆祝,封闭街道,在前面的草坪上举行十二点钟的烧烤,价值数千美元的烟花在街区各处燃放。
I think not.
Something happened just today that make me think not.
My daughter and her children (the oldest is 16) have always put on and participated in HUGE 4th of July celebrations. Block parties, all the neighbors celebrating together, closed streets, twelve barbecues on front lawns, thousands of dollars worth of fireworks being set off all along the block.
我认为不会。
今天发生了一件事情,让我认为这不会。
我的女儿和她的孩子(最大的16岁)穿上衣服参加盛大的7月4日庆祝活动。街区聚会,所有邻居一起庆祝,封闭街道,在前面的草坪上举行十二点钟的烧烤,价值数千美元的烟花在街区各处燃放。
They’re having a bit of financial trouble so asked my daughter if we could supply some funds so the kids would not be disappointed.
Her response?…
“We are not celebrating the 4th. Mom, two of my three children, and I were just declared second class citizens. We will not be celebrating that.”
他们有点财政困难,所以问我女儿我们是否可以提供一些资金,这样孩子们就不会失望了。
她的回答?
“我们不是在庆祝独立日。妈妈,我三个孩子中的两个,刚刚被宣布成为二等公民。我们不会庆祝。”
Her response?…
“We are not celebrating the 4th. Mom, two of my three children, and I were just declared second class citizens. We will not be celebrating that.”
他们有点财政困难,所以问我女儿我们是否可以提供一些资金,这样孩子们就不会失望了。
她的回答?
“我们不是在庆祝独立日。妈妈,我三个孩子中的两个,刚刚被宣布成为二等公民。我们不会庆祝。”
Chris Grebe
Those who think it has are rejoicing right now. The rest of us are ashamed. Republicans are terrified though. It shows and it’s like kind of desperation like when morons follow their leader blindly into a pit of vipers.
We are doing a great job of talking about the absolute travesty overturning Roe v. Wade has done to women in this country. But as Billy Mays would say “wait, there’s more!”
那些相信这一点的人现在都很高兴。我们其他人都感到羞耻。不过共和党人很害怕。它显示了一种绝望,就像白痴盲目地跟随他们的领导人进入毒蛇坑一样。
我们在谈论彻底颠覆罗诉韦德案对这个国家的女性所做的讽刺方面做得很好。但正如比利·梅斯所说:“等等,还有更多!”
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Those who think it has are rejoicing right now. The rest of us are ashamed. Republicans are terrified though. It shows and it’s like kind of desperation like when morons follow their leader blindly into a pit of vipers.
We are doing a great job of talking about the absolute travesty overturning Roe v. Wade has done to women in this country. But as Billy Mays would say “wait, there’s more!”
那些相信这一点的人现在都很高兴。我们其他人都感到羞耻。不过共和党人很害怕。它显示了一种绝望,就像白痴盲目地跟随他们的领导人进入毒蛇坑一样。
我们在谈论彻底颠覆罗诉韦德案对这个国家的女性所做的讽刺方面做得很好。但正如比利·梅斯所说:“等等,还有更多!”
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Republicans will now work on passing criminal laws for women who don’t abide by their rules. Some of which will be felony charges which typically on those states. Takes away the right to vote.
This is not being talked about enough. But pay attention that’s their end game. Make everything those who don’t vote for them do illegal or harder to do and start taking away their rights. This is the “freedom or death” crowd. They are too stupid to see the irony.
共和党人现在将致力于通过针对不遵守规定的女性的刑法。针对某些州,其中一些将是重罪指控。剥夺投票权。
这一点讨论得还不够。但请注意,这是他们的结局。让那些不投票给他们的人做任何违法或更难做的事情,并开始剥夺他们的权利。这是“自由或者死亡”的人群。他们太愚蠢了,看不出其中的讽刺。
This is not being talked about enough. But pay attention that’s their end game. Make everything those who don’t vote for them do illegal or harder to do and start taking away their rights. This is the “freedom or death” crowd. They are too stupid to see the irony.
共和党人现在将致力于通过针对不遵守规定的女性的刑法。针对某些州,其中一些将是重罪指控。剥夺投票权。
这一点讨论得还不够。但请注意,这是他们的结局。让那些不投票给他们的人做任何违法或更难做的事情,并开始剥夺他们的权利。这是“自由或者死亡”的人群。他们太愚蠢了,看不出其中的讽刺。
Jean-Marie Valheur
I would argue that overturning Roe v. Wade neither “made America great” nor ruined it. We can get overly dramatic about it, sure, because outrage sells and some of Clarence Thomas’ remarks do spark plenty of reason for genuine concern when it comes to the precedent this sets. Some conservative states have already allowed their ‘trigger laws’ to formally outlaw abortion going forward.
我认为,推翻罗诉韦德案既没有“使美国伟大”,也没有摧毁美国。当然,我们对于此事的反应过于关注和激烈,因为愤怒在起作用,克拉伦斯·托马斯的一些言论确实引发了人们对这件事的真正担忧。一些保守的州已经允许他们的“触发法”,正式禁止堕胎。
I would argue that overturning Roe v. Wade neither “made America great” nor ruined it. We can get overly dramatic about it, sure, because outrage sells and some of Clarence Thomas’ remarks do spark plenty of reason for genuine concern when it comes to the precedent this sets. Some conservative states have already allowed their ‘trigger laws’ to formally outlaw abortion going forward.
我认为,推翻罗诉韦德案既没有“使美国伟大”,也没有摧毁美国。当然,我们对于此事的反应过于关注和激烈,因为愤怒在起作用,克拉伦斯·托马斯的一些言论确实引发了人们对这件事的真正担忧。一些保守的州已经允许他们的“触发法”,正式禁止堕胎。
That said, if you really want to undergo an abortion, you can and will find a way for it. It may be illegal to travel out of state to one of the many states that do allow it, sure, but if you don’t tell people your purpose in traveling they’ll be none the wiser — you would be in the first trimester and not visibly pregnant anyway because once you reach that stage, you wouldn’t be allowed to abort the child either way even in more liberal states.
也就是说,如果你真的想堕胎,你也可以找到一种方法。当然,从州外旅行,到许多允许这样做的州之一可能是违法的,但如果你不告诉人们你旅行的目的,他们也不会知道——你如果处于怀孕的前三个月,而且看起来并不太明显,因为一旦你达到3个月以上,即使在更自由的州,你也不允许以任何方式堕胎。
也就是说,如果你真的想堕胎,你也可以找到一种方法。当然,从州外旅行,到许多允许这样做的州之一可能是违法的,但如果你不告诉人们你旅行的目的,他们也不会知道——你如果处于怀孕的前三个月,而且看起来并不太明显,因为一旦你达到3个月以上,即使在更自由的州,你也不允许以任何方式堕胎。
This isn’t the end of civil liberties, America has not become Taliban adjacent and life isn’t like the Handmaiden’s Tale…. outrage is fun. And addictive. And its okay to be bothered but aside from some extra hassle I doubt the decision to overturn Roe v. Wade will “force” many more women to give birth. What it will mainly do is inconvenience a great many ladies who find themselves pregnant and decide they wish to terminate their pregnancy. Which is unpleasant for those directly involved but hardly the end of the world in the grand scheme of things.
The whole “slippery slope” argument may apply, however — emboldened by the recent ruling, Clarence Thomas and his little gang of aging conservative misfits may go after gay marriage next. Gay relationships. And there are rulings in favor of interracial marriage, too, but no worries, Clarence Thomas won’t touch those — he’s in an interracial marriage himself. Whatever doesn’t affect these people, however, is fair game it seems.
这并不是公民自由的终结,美国还没有与塔利班为邻,生活也不像使女的故事……愤怒是有趣的。而且容易上瘾。当然,麻烦也没关系,但除了会产生一些额外的麻烦,我很怀疑推翻罗诉韦德案的决定,是否会“迫使”更多的女性生育。它的主要作用是给许多发现自己怀孕并决定终止妊娠的女性带来不便。这对那些直接参与到这一宏大计划中的人来说是令人不快的,但肯定不是世界末日。
然而,“滑坡还是”的论点可能适用的——在最近这个裁决的鼓舞下,克拉伦斯·托马斯(ClarenceThomas)和他的一小群年迈的保守派,与现实格格不入者,可能会选择对同性婚姻、同性恋关系开刀。也可能对支持跨种族婚姻的判决开刀,但不用担心,克拉伦斯·托马斯不会碰这些——他自己也在跨种族婚姻中。任何没有影响到这些人群的事件,看起来都是公平的。
The whole “slippery slope” argument may apply, however — emboldened by the recent ruling, Clarence Thomas and his little gang of aging conservative misfits may go after gay marriage next. Gay relationships. And there are rulings in favor of interracial marriage, too, but no worries, Clarence Thomas won’t touch those — he’s in an interracial marriage himself. Whatever doesn’t affect these people, however, is fair game it seems.
这并不是公民自由的终结,美国还没有与塔利班为邻,生活也不像使女的故事……愤怒是有趣的。而且容易上瘾。当然,麻烦也没关系,但除了会产生一些额外的麻烦,我很怀疑推翻罗诉韦德案的决定,是否会“迫使”更多的女性生育。它的主要作用是给许多发现自己怀孕并决定终止妊娠的女性带来不便。这对那些直接参与到这一宏大计划中的人来说是令人不快的,但肯定不是世界末日。
然而,“滑坡还是”的论点可能适用的——在最近这个裁决的鼓舞下,克拉伦斯·托马斯(ClarenceThomas)和他的一小群年迈的保守派,与现实格格不入者,可能会选择对同性婚姻、同性恋关系开刀。也可能对支持跨种族婚姻的判决开刀,但不用担心,克拉伦斯·托马斯不会碰这些——他自己也在跨种族婚姻中。任何没有影响到这些人群的事件,看起来都是公平的。
Andrew Richardson
During my lifetime the view of America, held by the rest of the developed world, has changed.
In the sixties the USA was looked up to as a scientific and commercial leader.
Now the USA is seen as a rather backwards, failing democracy sliding into theocracy and fascism.
The decline was gradual and there was possibly an uplift when Obama was elected.
在我有生之年,其他发达国家对美国的看法发生了变化。
60年代,美国被视为科学和商业领袖。
现在,美国被视为一个相当落后、失败的民主国家,滑向神权和法西斯主义。
下降是渐进的,当奥巴马当选时,当时可能是上升的。
During my lifetime the view of America, held by the rest of the developed world, has changed.
In the sixties the USA was looked up to as a scientific and commercial leader.
Now the USA is seen as a rather backwards, failing democracy sliding into theocracy and fascism.
The decline was gradual and there was possibly an uplift when Obama was elected.
在我有生之年,其他发达国家对美国的看法发生了变化。
60年代,美国被视为科学和商业领袖。
现在,美国被视为一个相当落后、失败的民主国家,滑向神权和法西斯主义。
下降是渐进的,当奥巴马当选时,当时可能是上升的。
But the circus that followed and culminated in the election of the orange clown caused a massive decline in the USAs standing.
The problem is modern communications, internationalisation of business and social media have opened the blinds and let the world see inside the USA.
The Trump administration, his lack of statesmanship, his lack of class, lying, self promotion and criminal behaviour eroded that further.
This latest atrocity by the religion and fascist controlled legal hierarchy is an atrocity and a deprivation of personal freedom.
但随后的马戏团,并在橙色小丑被选举后达到高潮,导致了美国社会地位的大幅下降。
问题是现代通信、商业和社交媒体的国际化使人们穿透了所有幌子,让世界看到了美国内部。
特朗普政府、他缺乏政治家风范、缺乏教育、撒谎、自我推销和犯罪行为进一步削弱了这一点。
宗教和法西斯控制的法律阶层,最近犯下的错误是一种暴行,是对人身自由的剥夺。
The problem is modern communications, internationalisation of business and social media have opened the blinds and let the world see inside the USA.
The Trump administration, his lack of statesmanship, his lack of class, lying, self promotion and criminal behaviour eroded that further.
This latest atrocity by the religion and fascist controlled legal hierarchy is an atrocity and a deprivation of personal freedom.
但随后的马戏团,并在橙色小丑被选举后达到高潮,导致了美国社会地位的大幅下降。
问题是现代通信、商业和社交媒体的国际化使人们穿透了所有幌子,让世界看到了美国内部。
特朗普政府、他缺乏政治家风范、缺乏教育、撒谎、自我推销和犯罪行为进一步削弱了这一点。
宗教和法西斯控制的法律阶层,最近犯下的错误是一种暴行,是对人身自由的剥夺。
America isn't the land of the free. It's oppressed by a religion controlled facsict party that isn't even currently the democratically elected administration.
It runs a healthcare as a business, tips every scale in favour of the wealthy and cares nothing for the majority of the population and regularly ignores the will of the majority.
America will never be great again. It's broken.
It's position as the leading economic power is under serious threat.
It's, self appointed, position as leader of the free world is lost on moral grounds.
美国不再是自由之地了。它受到宗教控制的法西斯政党的压迫,该党目前甚至不是民选政府。
它把医疗保健作为一项业务来经营,将每一个评判标准都倾斜给富人,对大多数人毫不关心,经常无视大多数人的意愿。
美国再也不会伟大了。它坏掉了。
它作为主要经济大国的地位受到严重威胁。
它自封为自由世界的领袖,这一地位在道德上已经丧失了。
It runs a healthcare as a business, tips every scale in favour of the wealthy and cares nothing for the majority of the population and regularly ignores the will of the majority.
America will never be great again. It's broken.
It's position as the leading economic power is under serious threat.
It's, self appointed, position as leader of the free world is lost on moral grounds.
美国不再是自由之地了。它受到宗教控制的法西斯政党的压迫,该党目前甚至不是民选政府。
它把医疗保健作为一项业务来经营,将每一个评判标准都倾斜给富人,对大多数人毫不关心,经常无视大多数人的意愿。
美国再也不会伟大了。它坏掉了。
它作为主要经济大国的地位受到严重威胁。
它自封为自由世界的领袖,这一地位在道德上已经丧失了。
Liz Meyer
In Ohio a 10 year old girl was sexually abused. At six weeks and three days she was diagnosed as being pregnant. Because she lives in Ohio, the abused, raped, little girl was “too pregnant” to qualify for an abortion by three days.
Imagine yourself as a 4th grader. At the age of 10 a child's body is not meant to give birth. You most likely are still playing with dolls, giggling at boys, playing outside after school.
在俄亥俄州,一名10岁女孩遭到性虐待。在六周零三天的时候,她被诊断为怀孕。因为她住在俄亥俄州,这个被虐待、强奸的小女孩“怀孕的日子太久”了,不符合三天内堕胎的条件。
想象自己是一个四年级的学生。在10岁的时候,这个年纪的身体是不可以生育的。你很可能还在玩洋娃娃,对着男孩咯咯笑,放学后在外面玩。
In Ohio a 10 year old girl was sexually abused. At six weeks and three days she was diagnosed as being pregnant. Because she lives in Ohio, the abused, raped, little girl was “too pregnant” to qualify for an abortion by three days.
Imagine yourself as a 4th grader. At the age of 10 a child's body is not meant to give birth. You most likely are still playing with dolls, giggling at boys, playing outside after school.
在俄亥俄州,一名10岁女孩遭到性虐待。在六周零三天的时候,她被诊断为怀孕。因为她住在俄亥俄州,这个被虐待、强奸的小女孩“怀孕的日子太久”了,不符合三天内堕胎的条件。
想象自己是一个四年级的学生。在10岁的时候,这个年纪的身体是不可以生育的。你很可能还在玩洋娃娃,对着男孩咯咯笑,放学后在外面玩。
A 10 year old girl's body cannot handle the birth of a baby. Her pelvis is not developed or big enough to deliver a baby. The birth would require a C-section. The girl’s body has not grown enough to accommodate the growing fetus resulting in low birth rate. The little girl has a greater risk of death due to bleeding, toxemia, hemorrhage, an incredibly long and difficult labor, severe anemia, and disability.
I have grandchildren that child's age. I am appalled and disgusted to know that a group of angry, old white men with no knowledge of science or fact have decided that it is just fine and dandy to force a 10 year old child who was raped to give birth. Yep, a fetus the size of a pea, that cannot survive on its own, is more important than the life a walking, talking, functioning child.
一个10岁女孩的身体无法承受婴儿的出生。她的骨盆不发达或不够大,无法分娩。分娩需要剖腹产。女孩的身体发育不足以容纳胎儿的生长,导致出生率低。由于出血、毒血症、出血、超长难产、严重贫血和残疾,小女孩的死亡风险更大。
我的孙子和那个孩子一样大。得知一群不懂科学或事实的愤怒的老白人,决定强迫一名被强奸的10岁儿童生育,我感到震惊和厌恶。是的,一个豌豆大小的胎儿,不能靠自己生存,比一个会走路、会说话、功能健全的孩子的生命更重要。
I have grandchildren that child's age. I am appalled and disgusted to know that a group of angry, old white men with no knowledge of science or fact have decided that it is just fine and dandy to force a 10 year old child who was raped to give birth. Yep, a fetus the size of a pea, that cannot survive on its own, is more important than the life a walking, talking, functioning child.
一个10岁女孩的身体无法承受婴儿的出生。她的骨盆不发达或不够大,无法分娩。分娩需要剖腹产。女孩的身体发育不足以容纳胎儿的生长,导致出生率低。由于出血、毒血症、出血、超长难产、严重贫血和残疾,小女孩的死亡风险更大。
我的孙子和那个孩子一样大。得知一群不懂科学或事实的愤怒的老白人,决定强迫一名被强奸的10岁儿童生育,我感到震惊和厌恶。是的,一个豌豆大小的胎儿,不能靠自己生存,比一个会走路、会说话、功能健全的孩子的生命更重要。
The 10 year old girl was taken to Indiana for an abortion. Soon, Indiana's laws will change and this option would not have been possible.
As to the concept that this pregnancy is a gift from God, I ask who's God? The God I believe in never said that one religion is more right than another, or takes precedence over another. There are 600 laws of Moses and not one comment on abortion. One Mosaic law states that miscarriage is not the death of a human. If a pregnant woman was assaulted and miscarried the attacker would be fined, if the woman died the attacker would be killed.
The concept that life begins at conception is wrong. In Genesis 2:7 when God “breathed into his nostrils the breath of life, the man became a living soul.” Jewish law, you know the religion that birthed Christianity, considers that life begins at birth.
这名10岁的女孩被带到印第安纳州堕胎。很快,印第安纳州的法律就会改变,这一选择将变得不可能。
至于怀孕是上帝的礼物这一概念,我问谁是上帝?我信仰的上帝从来没有说过一种宗教比另一种宗教更正确,或优先于另一种宗教。有600条摩西律法,没有一条关于堕胎的评论。摩西的一项律法规定,流产不是杀人。如果孕妇遭到袭击并流产,袭击者将被罚款,如果妇女死亡,袭击者将被杀死。
认为生命始于受孕的观念是错误的。在创世记2:7中,当上帝“把生命的气息吸入他的鼻孔时,人就成了一个有生命的灵魂”。犹太律法,你知道的,基督教诞生的宗教,认为生命从出生开始。
As to the concept that this pregnancy is a gift from God, I ask who's God? The God I believe in never said that one religion is more right than another, or takes precedence over another. There are 600 laws of Moses and not one comment on abortion. One Mosaic law states that miscarriage is not the death of a human. If a pregnant woman was assaulted and miscarried the attacker would be fined, if the woman died the attacker would be killed.
The concept that life begins at conception is wrong. In Genesis 2:7 when God “breathed into his nostrils the breath of life, the man became a living soul.” Jewish law, you know the religion that birthed Christianity, considers that life begins at birth.
这名10岁的女孩被带到印第安纳州堕胎。很快,印第安纳州的法律就会改变,这一选择将变得不可能。
至于怀孕是上帝的礼物这一概念,我问谁是上帝?我信仰的上帝从来没有说过一种宗教比另一种宗教更正确,或优先于另一种宗教。有600条摩西律法,没有一条关于堕胎的评论。摩西的一项律法规定,流产不是杀人。如果孕妇遭到袭击并流产,袭击者将被罚款,如果妇女死亡,袭击者将被杀死。
认为生命始于受孕的观念是错误的。在创世记2:7中,当上帝“把生命的气息吸入他的鼻孔时,人就成了一个有生命的灵魂”。犹太律法,你知道的,基督教诞生的宗教,认为生命从出生开始。
So, if those who thump their bible, demand that only their beliefs are valid in this country, and think nothing of torturing and endangering the life of a 10 year old little girl, would stop desperately trying to twist words and use obscure passages to validate barbaric laws and instead accept Moses, Jesus, and Paul ignored every chance to condemn abortion maybe our Constitution and country will be respected.
因此,如果那些敲打圣经的人,要求只有他们的信仰在这个国家是有效的,而不考虑折磨和危及一个10岁小女孩的生命,他们应该停止拼命的去扭曲文字,使用晦涩的段落来验证野蛮的法律,而改为接受摩西、耶稣、使徒保罗,无视任何谴责堕胎的信息,也许我们的宪法和国家会得到尊重。
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因此,如果那些敲打圣经的人,要求只有他们的信仰在这个国家是有效的,而不考虑折磨和危及一个10岁小女孩的生命,他们应该停止拼命的去扭曲文字,使用晦涩的段落来验证野蛮的法律,而改为接受摩西、耶稣、使徒保罗,无视任何谴责堕胎的信息,也许我们的宪法和国家会得到尊重。
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Zuleika Smith
No, it hasn't made America great again. Far from it. The very foundation of the USA seems to be at issue here.
When the landmark Roe v Wade legal decision was reached in 1973, it was on the basis that to deny women the right to abortion would be in contravention of the right to privacy embodied in the 14th amendment of the US Constitution. The court maintained that a woman’s right to an abortion was implicit in this right to privacy.
不,这并没有使美国再次伟大起来。相差甚远。美国的基础似乎在这里有争议了。
1973年,当具有里程碑意义的罗诉韦德案法律裁决达成时,其依据是,剥夺妇女堕胎权将违反美国宪法第14修正案中体现的隐私权。法院坚持认为,妇女堕胎的权利隐含在这项隐私权中。
No, it hasn't made America great again. Far from it. The very foundation of the USA seems to be at issue here.
When the landmark Roe v Wade legal decision was reached in 1973, it was on the basis that to deny women the right to abortion would be in contravention of the right to privacy embodied in the 14th amendment of the US Constitution. The court maintained that a woman’s right to an abortion was implicit in this right to privacy.
不,这并没有使美国再次伟大起来。相差甚远。美国的基础似乎在这里有争议了。
1973年,当具有里程碑意义的罗诉韦德案法律裁决达成时,其依据是,剥夺妇女堕胎权将违反美国宪法第14修正案中体现的隐私权。法院坚持认为,妇女堕胎的权利隐含在这项隐私权中。
Now it has been decided that women do not have this inherent right to abortion - that it is not implicit in the ‘right to privacy’.
So it seems that the very constitution of the USA - or at least the understanding of it - is highly mutable and unstable.
To me, that does not paint a picture of an America that is ‘great’ in any way. Rather it seems weak, regressive, and a country that has demoted women to the status of second class citizens.
现在已经决定,妇女没有这种固有的堕胎权——这不是“隐私权”的隐含内容。
因此,似乎美国的宪法本身——或者至少是对它的理解——是高度可变和不稳定的。
对我来说,这并不能描绘一个在任何方面都“伟大”的美国。相反,它似乎是一个软弱、倒退的国家,一个将女性降到二等公民地位的国家。
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So it seems that the very constitution of the USA - or at least the understanding of it - is highly mutable and unstable.
To me, that does not paint a picture of an America that is ‘great’ in any way. Rather it seems weak, regressive, and a country that has demoted women to the status of second class citizens.
现在已经决定,妇女没有这种固有的堕胎权——这不是“隐私权”的隐含内容。
因此,似乎美国的宪法本身——或者至少是对它的理解——是高度可变和不稳定的。
对我来说,这并不能描绘一个在任何方面都“伟大”的美国。相反,它似乎是一个软弱、倒退的国家,一个将女性降到二等公民地位的国家。
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John Wyant
Of course not. You’ve just sent America backwards by at least 50 years.
You don’t make a country great by removing people’s rights, in the name of a God that not everyone believes in. The rest of the world is looking on in horror, as Gilead is being created in front of our very eyes. In case you hadn’t realised (because I know some Americans think that “1984” was what George Orwell wanted to happen), “The Handmaid’s Tale” is not a fucking guide to living.
当然不是。这让美国倒退了至少50年。
你不能以一个并非所有人都相信的上帝的名义,剥夺人民的权利,从而使一个国家变得伟大。当基列(《使女的故事》中的国家名)在我们眼前被创造时,全世界都在惊恐地看着。如果你没有意识到(因为我知道一些美国人认为“1984”是乔治·奥威尔想要发生的事情),《使女的故事》不是一个他妈的生活指南。
Of course not. You’ve just sent America backwards by at least 50 years.
You don’t make a country great by removing people’s rights, in the name of a God that not everyone believes in. The rest of the world is looking on in horror, as Gilead is being created in front of our very eyes. In case you hadn’t realised (because I know some Americans think that “1984” was what George Orwell wanted to happen), “The Handmaid’s Tale” is not a fucking guide to living.
当然不是。这让美国倒退了至少50年。
你不能以一个并非所有人都相信的上帝的名义,剥夺人民的权利,从而使一个国家变得伟大。当基列(《使女的故事》中的国家名)在我们眼前被创造时,全世界都在惊恐地看着。如果你没有意识到(因为我知道一些美国人认为“1984”是乔治·奥威尔想要发生的事情),《使女的故事》不是一个他妈的生活指南。
Viktor Renquist
Let me answer this with a series of questions.
Given the US already has some of the highest maternal childbirth death rates in the OECD, do you think that increasing that rate further will make the US great?
Given the US has no universal healthcare system, free at the point of delivery, do you think increasing bankruptcy rates for young families and single parents will make the US great?
Do you think increasing the numbers imprisoned, in what is already the most incarcerated nation in the world, per capita will make the US great?
让我用一系列问题来回答这个问题。
1、鉴于美国已经是经合组织(OECD)中产妇分娩死亡率最高的国家之一,你认为进一步提高这一比率会让美国变得伟大吗?
2、考虑到美国没有一个在分娩时免费的全民医疗体系,你认为提高年轻家庭和单亲父母的破产率会让美国变得伟大吗?
3、你认为在世界上监禁人数最多的地方,增加人均监禁人数会让美国变得伟大吗?
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Let me answer this with a series of questions.
Given the US already has some of the highest maternal childbirth death rates in the OECD, do you think that increasing that rate further will make the US great?
Given the US has no universal healthcare system, free at the point of delivery, do you think increasing bankruptcy rates for young families and single parents will make the US great?
Do you think increasing the numbers imprisoned, in what is already the most incarcerated nation in the world, per capita will make the US great?
让我用一系列问题来回答这个问题。
1、鉴于美国已经是经合组织(OECD)中产妇分娩死亡率最高的国家之一,你认为进一步提高这一比率会让美国变得伟大吗?
2、考虑到美国没有一个在分娩时免费的全民医疗体系,你认为提高年轻家庭和单亲父母的破产率会让美国变得伟大吗?
3、你认为在世界上监禁人数最多的地方,增加人均监禁人数会让美国变得伟大吗?
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Do you think that becoming an international political pariah will make the US great?
Do you think having states divided against themselves and already flagging that they will obstruct the policies and laws of states with whom they disagree will make the US great?
Do you think adding hundreds of thousands to the foster care system will make the US great?
4、你认为成为一个国际政治贱民会让美国变得伟大吗?
5、你认为,如果各州相互对立,并且已经表示他们会阻碍与其意见相左的州的政策和法律,那么美国会变得伟大吗?
6、你认为增加几十万人到寄养系统会让美国变得伟大吗?
Do you think having states divided against themselves and already flagging that they will obstruct the policies and laws of states with whom they disagree will make the US great?
Do you think adding hundreds of thousands to the foster care system will make the US great?
4、你认为成为一个国际政治贱民会让美国变得伟大吗?
5、你认为,如果各州相互对立,并且已经表示他们会阻碍与其意见相左的州的政策和法律,那么美国会变得伟大吗?
6、你认为增加几十万人到寄养系统会让美国变得伟大吗?
Do you think that oppressing religious freedom … Islam grants any woman a right to abortion within 120 days of conception while Judaism grants absolute rights to abortion in the case of the health of the mother being effected … makes the US great?
Do you consider that deliberately making it harder for single mothers to work will make the US great?
Do you think that potentially having the country descend into civil war will make the US great?
Do you think that having women flee to other states, or even other nations, will make the US great?
7、你认为压迫宗教自由会使美国伟大吗?……伊斯兰教赋予任何妇女在怀孕120天内堕胎的权利,而犹太教赋予在母亲健康受到影响的情况下堕胎的绝对权利……
8、你认为故意让单身母亲生活更加艰难,会让美国变得伟大吗?
9、你认为美国可能陷入内战会让美国变得伟大吗?
10、你认为让女性逃亡到其他州,甚至其他国家,会让美国变得伟大吗?
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Do you consider that deliberately making it harder for single mothers to work will make the US great?
Do you think that potentially having the country descend into civil war will make the US great?
Do you think that having women flee to other states, or even other nations, will make the US great?
7、你认为压迫宗教自由会使美国伟大吗?……伊斯兰教赋予任何妇女在怀孕120天内堕胎的权利,而犹太教赋予在母亲健康受到影响的情况下堕胎的绝对权利……
8、你认为故意让单身母亲生活更加艰难,会让美国变得伟大吗?
9、你认为美国可能陷入内战会让美国变得伟大吗?
10、你认为让女性逃亡到其他州,甚至其他国家,会让美国变得伟大吗?
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Jennifer Davis
Only if you think evil is great. From the perspective of normal, non-evil people, America is just proving that it can't live up to the ideals it used to strive to embody.
除非你认为邪恶是伟大的。从正常、非邪恶的人的角度来看,美国只是在证明它无法实现它过去努力实现的理想。
Only if you think evil is great. From the perspective of normal, non-evil people, America is just proving that it can't live up to the ideals it used to strive to embody.
除非你认为邪恶是伟大的。从正常、非邪恶的人的角度来看,美国只是在证明它无法实现它过去努力实现的理想。
Tim Crannigan
Of course not, it is turning into a theocracy, much like those run by other fundamentalist countries whom America purports to despise so much - and thus removing freedom after freedom.
What happened to the USA of the 60s - the counter-culture, the hope for peace, and for sticking it to the Man?
Well, the Man won in the end. Although, sadly, not the woman, who is now a second-class citizen in red states.
当然不会,它正在变成一个神权国家,就像美国声称如此鄙视的其他原教旨主义国家所经营的那样,剥夺了一个又一个自由。
60年代的美国发生了什么?反主流文化,和平的希望,以及坚持和平的人?
嗯,那人最后赢了。然而,可悲的是,这名女性现在已经是红州的二等公民。
Of course not, it is turning into a theocracy, much like those run by other fundamentalist countries whom America purports to despise so much - and thus removing freedom after freedom.
What happened to the USA of the 60s - the counter-culture, the hope for peace, and for sticking it to the Man?
Well, the Man won in the end. Although, sadly, not the woman, who is now a second-class citizen in red states.
当然不会,它正在变成一个神权国家,就像美国声称如此鄙视的其他原教旨主义国家所经营的那样,剥夺了一个又一个自由。
60年代的美国发生了什么?反主流文化,和平的希望,以及坚持和平的人?
嗯,那人最后赢了。然而,可悲的是,这名女性现在已经是红州的二等公民。
The USA is now becoming a pariah in the view of the world, along with N.Korea, Russia et al.
And all, in my view, just to enrich the few.
Shame on them, and I pity the rest.
What the Republicans (and the corrupt form of Christianity now running rampant) have done to America is scarecely believable.
And utterly repugnant.
如今,美国正与朝鲜、俄罗斯等国一起成为世界上的贱民。
在我看来,这一切只是为了让少数人更富有。
为他们感到羞耻,我同情其他人。
共和党人(以及现在猖獗的基督教腐败形式)对美国所做的事情令人难以置信。
非常令人反感。
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And all, in my view, just to enrich the few.
Shame on them, and I pity the rest.
What the Republicans (and the corrupt form of Christianity now running rampant) have done to America is scarecely believable.
And utterly repugnant.
如今,美国正与朝鲜、俄罗斯等国一起成为世界上的贱民。
在我看来,这一切只是为了让少数人更富有。
为他们感到羞耻,我同情其他人。
共和党人(以及现在猖獗的基督教腐败形式)对美国所做的事情令人难以置信。
非常令人反感。
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Glen Scratchley
Trump promised to appoint only Supreme Court judges who would overturn Roe. Now that the Court has done so, presumably those who wanted America to be ‘great again’, meaning ‘just like it was when abortion was illegal’ feel that that that is one step in the right direction.
Now, if they can get rid of same-sex marriage, contraception, inter-racial marriage, those will be considered good moves also.
VOTE BLUE AT ALL LEVELS.
特朗普承诺只会任命推翻罗伊案的最高法院法官。现在法院已经这样做了,想必那些希望美国“再次伟大”的人,希望美国变成“堕胎是非法的时候一样”,觉得这是朝着正确方向迈出的一步。
现在,如果他们能摆脱同性婚姻、避孕、跨种族婚姻,这些也将被视为好举措。
在所有级别投蓝色票。
Trump promised to appoint only Supreme Court judges who would overturn Roe. Now that the Court has done so, presumably those who wanted America to be ‘great again’, meaning ‘just like it was when abortion was illegal’ feel that that that is one step in the right direction.
Now, if they can get rid of same-sex marriage, contraception, inter-racial marriage, those will be considered good moves also.
VOTE BLUE AT ALL LEVELS.
特朗普承诺只会任命推翻罗伊案的最高法院法官。现在法院已经这样做了,想必那些希望美国“再次伟大”的人,希望美国变成“堕胎是非法的时候一样”,觉得这是朝着正确方向迈出的一步。
现在,如果他们能摆脱同性婚姻、避孕、跨种族婚姻,这些也将被视为好举措。
在所有级别投蓝色票。
Michael Lopez
No, we are descending into a Theocracy. A Theocracy that will eventually attack anyone who they disagree with. Including African-Americans, Native-Americans, Catholics,Jews, Hispanics and anyone else who dares stand up to them.
不,我们正在走向神权政治。最终将攻击任何他们不同意的人的神权政体。包括非裔美国人、美洲原住民、天主教徒、犹太人、西班牙裔人和任何敢于反抗他们的人。
No, we are descending into a Theocracy. A Theocracy that will eventually attack anyone who they disagree with. Including African-Americans, Native-Americans, Catholics,Jews, Hispanics and anyone else who dares stand up to them.
不,我们正在走向神权政治。最终将攻击任何他们不同意的人的神权政体。包括非裔美国人、美洲原住民、天主教徒、犹太人、西班牙裔人和任何敢于反抗他们的人。
Walt Huber
It could make things worse.
The reason the current court did what it did is that as they say: “There is nothing in the constitution that guarantees a woman’s right to abortion. This is probably because the word “abortion” was not even a word associated with woman’s health when the constitution was written.
I think the Roe vs. Wade decision was a brilliant compromise between the rights of the woman and the rights of the unborn. They split it in three segments. Of course, this did not satisfy the extremes on the opposite ends of the spectrum that wanted: No abortions for any reason and those that wanted an abortion at any point from conception to birth.
The late/great writer, economist, professor Walter Williams would often write a column about the unintended consequences of good deeds. The classic was 100 years ago when Carrie Nation convince many women to vote to outlaw alcohol. This good deed was going to eliminate all the problems in our society caused by the consumption of alcohol. Did it work? NO, it did not. It caused more problems. People still wanted alcohol and it created organized crime to supply the demand.
To me, this SCOTUS decision sounds like it might fall into this “unintended consequence of good deeds” category. It could cause many new problems, like we do we do in this country with the hundreds of thousands of unwanted babies every year now that must be carried to term? Will all the states rushing regulations to totally ban any abortions, address how to care for these unwanted newborns?
这可能会让事情变得更糟。
目前的法院之所以这样做,是因为正如他们所说:“宪法中没有任何条款保障妇女堕胎的权利。这可能是因为在宪法制定时,“堕胎”一词甚至不是一个与妇女健康相关的词。
我认为罗诉韦德案的判决是一个在妇女权利和未出生者权利之间的完美妥协。他们把它分成三部分。当然,这并没有满足想要堕胎的极端情况:没有任何理由的堕胎,以及那些从怀孕到出生的任何时候都想要堕胎的人。
已故/伟大的作家、经济学家沃尔特·威廉姆斯教授经常写一篇专栏,讲述行善的意外后果。这部经典电影是在100年前,卡丽·奈德说服许多女性投票取缔酒精。这一善举将消除我们社会中因饮酒而产生的所有问题。它起作用了吗?不,没有。它引起了更多的问题。人们仍然需要酒精,这就产生了有组织犯罪来满足需求。
对我来说,斯科特的这一决定听起来可能属于“善行的意外后果”类别。这可能会引发许多新问题,比如我们在这样一个国家,每年都有几十万个不想要的婴儿,现在这些婴儿必须被带到足月。所有的州都会急于制定法规,全面禁止堕胎,解决如何照顾这些不想要的新生儿的问题吗?
It could make things worse.
The reason the current court did what it did is that as they say: “There is nothing in the constitution that guarantees a woman’s right to abortion. This is probably because the word “abortion” was not even a word associated with woman’s health when the constitution was written.
I think the Roe vs. Wade decision was a brilliant compromise between the rights of the woman and the rights of the unborn. They split it in three segments. Of course, this did not satisfy the extremes on the opposite ends of the spectrum that wanted: No abortions for any reason and those that wanted an abortion at any point from conception to birth.
The late/great writer, economist, professor Walter Williams would often write a column about the unintended consequences of good deeds. The classic was 100 years ago when Carrie Nation convince many women to vote to outlaw alcohol. This good deed was going to eliminate all the problems in our society caused by the consumption of alcohol. Did it work? NO, it did not. It caused more problems. People still wanted alcohol and it created organized crime to supply the demand.
To me, this SCOTUS decision sounds like it might fall into this “unintended consequence of good deeds” category. It could cause many new problems, like we do we do in this country with the hundreds of thousands of unwanted babies every year now that must be carried to term? Will all the states rushing regulations to totally ban any abortions, address how to care for these unwanted newborns?
这可能会让事情变得更糟。
目前的法院之所以这样做,是因为正如他们所说:“宪法中没有任何条款保障妇女堕胎的权利。这可能是因为在宪法制定时,“堕胎”一词甚至不是一个与妇女健康相关的词。
我认为罗诉韦德案的判决是一个在妇女权利和未出生者权利之间的完美妥协。他们把它分成三部分。当然,这并没有满足想要堕胎的极端情况:没有任何理由的堕胎,以及那些从怀孕到出生的任何时候都想要堕胎的人。
已故/伟大的作家、经济学家沃尔特·威廉姆斯教授经常写一篇专栏,讲述行善的意外后果。这部经典电影是在100年前,卡丽·奈德说服许多女性投票取缔酒精。这一善举将消除我们社会中因饮酒而产生的所有问题。它起作用了吗?不,没有。它引起了更多的问题。人们仍然需要酒精,这就产生了有组织犯罪来满足需求。
对我来说,斯科特的这一决定听起来可能属于“善行的意外后果”类别。这可能会引发许多新问题,比如我们在这样一个国家,每年都有几十万个不想要的婴儿,现在这些婴儿必须被带到足月。所有的州都会急于制定法规,全面禁止堕胎,解决如何照顾这些不想要的新生儿的问题吗?
Stari Byrd
Three days after the decision, in Ohio which had a trigger law in place, a 10 year old child had to be taken to Indiana for an abortion. 10 years old. How any American can feel like celebrating when we have children being denied care after whatever trauma caused a 10 year old child to need this procedure.
My family has fought for this country for around 300 years. I have been disappointed in the past but overall proud, now I am ashamed of this country. I hope we are able to turn this around and get an America where children aren't forced to go through these things. No decent person can be okay with this. 10 years old, and she will know for the rest of her life that she had to find a place where she was human enough to count more then that lump of cells some worthless man caused.
Fuck “Pro-Life” feelings. Live children need our protection and I thank God for the doctors who made sure this live 10 year old abuse victim got what was needed to at least reduce her suffering when her supreme court and state failed her so badly. It is our turn to fight, even if all we can do to fight is use our voice, and vote for people who will truly protect our children and get rid of those who would make this so bad that child would not get the medical care she needed.
在做出判决的三天后,在俄亥俄州,一个10岁的孩子不得不被带到印第安纳州堕胎。俄亥俄州有一项触发法律。10岁。当一个10岁的孩子受到创伤而需要接受这种手术后,我们的孩子被剥夺了护理权利,有些美国人是如何高兴得起来的。
我的家人为这个国家奋斗了大约300年。过去我有时候会失望,但总的来说我很自豪,现在我为这个国家感到羞耻。我希望我们能够扭转这种局面,让美国的孩子们不再被迫经历这些事情。没有一个正派的人可以接受这个。10岁的时候,她知道在她的余生中,她必须找到一个地方,在那里她是人类,比某个没用的人造成的那团细胞要重要得多。
去他妈的“反堕胎”。活着的孩子需要我们的保护,我感谢上帝,医生们确保了这位活着的10岁被虐待的受害者得到了所需的东西,以减轻她的痛苦,而她的最高法院和州政府却让她如此失望。现在轮到我们去战斗了,即使我们所能做的就是用我们的声音去战斗,投票给那些真正保护我们孩子的人,并摆脱那些让事情变得如此糟糕以至于孩子得不到她所需要的医疗照顾的人。
Three days after the decision, in Ohio which had a trigger law in place, a 10 year old child had to be taken to Indiana for an abortion. 10 years old. How any American can feel like celebrating when we have children being denied care after whatever trauma caused a 10 year old child to need this procedure.
My family has fought for this country for around 300 years. I have been disappointed in the past but overall proud, now I am ashamed of this country. I hope we are able to turn this around and get an America where children aren't forced to go through these things. No decent person can be okay with this. 10 years old, and she will know for the rest of her life that she had to find a place where she was human enough to count more then that lump of cells some worthless man caused.
Fuck “Pro-Life” feelings. Live children need our protection and I thank God for the doctors who made sure this live 10 year old abuse victim got what was needed to at least reduce her suffering when her supreme court and state failed her so badly. It is our turn to fight, even if all we can do to fight is use our voice, and vote for people who will truly protect our children and get rid of those who would make this so bad that child would not get the medical care she needed.
在做出判决的三天后,在俄亥俄州,一个10岁的孩子不得不被带到印第安纳州堕胎。俄亥俄州有一项触发法律。10岁。当一个10岁的孩子受到创伤而需要接受这种手术后,我们的孩子被剥夺了护理权利,有些美国人是如何高兴得起来的。
我的家人为这个国家奋斗了大约300年。过去我有时候会失望,但总的来说我很自豪,现在我为这个国家感到羞耻。我希望我们能够扭转这种局面,让美国的孩子们不再被迫经历这些事情。没有一个正派的人可以接受这个。10岁的时候,她知道在她的余生中,她必须找到一个地方,在那里她是人类,比某个没用的人造成的那团细胞要重要得多。
去他妈的“反堕胎”。活着的孩子需要我们的保护,我感谢上帝,医生们确保了这位活着的10岁被虐待的受害者得到了所需的东西,以减轻她的痛苦,而她的最高法院和州政府却让她如此失望。现在轮到我们去战斗了,即使我们所能做的就是用我们的声音去战斗,投票给那些真正保护我们孩子的人,并摆脱那些让事情变得如此糟糕以至于孩子得不到她所需要的医疗照顾的人。
Joan Vredik Broadley
If your definition of “great” includes no rights for people of colour and any non-traditional sexual orientation, then your Roe vs Wade has not gone far enough. This decision immediately only affects the right to abortion. You need to get back to a time when a white person could not marry a coloured person. When even married couples could not access artificial birth control. When women had to leave their careers when they got married. When everyone following any religion but Christianity was considered inferior. I believe that’s what those Republicans who want America to be “great again” are working towards.
如果你对“伟大”的定义不包括有色人种的权利和任何非传统性取向,那么你的罗诉韦德之争的了解还不够深入。这一决定现在只影响堕胎权。你可能会回到白人不能嫁给有色人种的时代。即使是已婚夫妇也无法进行人工节育。女人结婚后不得不离开自己的事业。当每个人信奉除基督教以外的任何宗教时,都被认为是低人一等的。我相信这就是那些希望美国“再次伟大”的共和党人正在努力的方向。
If your definition of “great” includes no rights for people of colour and any non-traditional sexual orientation, then your Roe vs Wade has not gone far enough. This decision immediately only affects the right to abortion. You need to get back to a time when a white person could not marry a coloured person. When even married couples could not access artificial birth control. When women had to leave their careers when they got married. When everyone following any religion but Christianity was considered inferior. I believe that’s what those Republicans who want America to be “great again” are working towards.
如果你对“伟大”的定义不包括有色人种的权利和任何非传统性取向,那么你的罗诉韦德之争的了解还不够深入。这一决定现在只影响堕胎权。你可能会回到白人不能嫁给有色人种的时代。即使是已婚夫妇也无法进行人工节育。女人结婚后不得不离开自己的事业。当每个人信奉除基督教以外的任何宗教时,都被认为是低人一等的。我相信这就是那些希望美国“再次伟大”的共和党人正在努力的方向。
Alex Heney
It has made America significantly further away from being “Great Again”.
The rest of the world is looking on with horror as America slides back away from the modern world.
它使美国大大远离“再次伟大”。
当美国逐渐远离现代世界时,世界其他国家都在惊恐地看着。
It has made America significantly further away from being “Great Again”.
The rest of the world is looking on with horror as America slides back away from the modern world.
它使美国大大远离“再次伟大”。
当美国逐渐远离现代世界时,世界其他国家都在惊恐地看着。
Nick Thornhill
The US has never been particularly ‘great’, especially for minorities.
It’s now the most dysfunctional and ‘backwards’ country in the western world.
美国从来没有特别“伟大”,尤其是对少数民族而言。
它现在是西方世界最不正常、最“落后”的国家。
The US has never been particularly ‘great’, especially for minorities.
It’s now the most dysfunctional and ‘backwards’ country in the western world.
美国从来没有特别“伟大”,尤其是对少数民族而言。
它现在是西方世界最不正常、最“落后”的国家。
Colin Bryant
it will certainly make usa’s population greater, im sure.
what is done with that extra sudden population will determine whether or not usa is great again.
the rest of the continent is largely unaffected by the decision though.
我相信这一定会使美国的人口增加。
如何处理这些突如其来的人口将决定美国是否再次伟大。
不过,欧洲大陆其他地区基本上不受这一决定的影响。
it will certainly make usa’s population greater, im sure.
what is done with that extra sudden population will determine whether or not usa is great again.
the rest of the continent is largely unaffected by the decision though.
我相信这一定会使美国的人口增加。
如何处理这些突如其来的人口将决定美国是否再次伟大。
不过,欧洲大陆其他地区基本上不受这一决定的影响。
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