从明年1月起，英国的能源账单预计将达到每年4266英镑
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(Bills are forecast to rise further in the second quarter of next year.)
（预计明年第二季度价格还会进一步增加。）
新闻：
UK energy bills forecast to hit £4,266 a year from January
-Government urged to announce more support for struggling households as Ofgem price cap expected to rise again
从明年1月起，英国的能源账单预计将达到每年4266英镑
——由于预计天然气和电力市场办公室价格上限将再次上调，政府被敦促宣布对陷入困境的家庭提供更多支持
-Government urged to announce more support for struggling households as Ofgem price cap expected to rise again
从明年1月起，英国的能源账单预计将达到每年4266英镑
——由于预计天然气和电力市场办公室价格上限将再次上调，政府被敦促宣布对陷入困境的家庭提供更多支持
(Bills are forecast to rise further in the second quarter of next year.)
（预计明年第二季度价格还会进一步增加。）
新闻：
Annual energy bills are forecast to top £4,200 from January, triggering a warning that Britons face “serious hardship on a massive scale” without government intervention.
从明年1月起，英国每年的能源账单预计将超过4200英镑，这引发了一个警告：如果没有政府的干预，英国人将面临“大规模的严重困难”。
从明年1月起，英国每年的能源账单预计将超过4200英镑，这引发了一个警告：如果没有政府的干预，英国人将面临“大规模的严重困难”。
The consultancy Cornwall Insight said on Tuesday that it expected the energy price cap to reach £4,266 a year for the first three months of next year.
咨询公司Cornwall Insight周二表示，预计明年头三个月的能源价格上限将达到每年4266英镑。
咨询公司Cornwall Insight周二表示，预计明年头三个月的能源价格上限将达到每年4266英镑。
The consultancy forecasts that bills could then rise to £4,426 in April before easing. Only a week ago Cornwall Insight predicted the energy price cap was on track to rise to £3,615 a year from January.
该咨询公司预测，到4月份，账单可能会升至4426英镑，之后会有所下降。就在一周前，Cornwall Insight还预测，从今年1月起，能源价格上限有望升至每年3615英镑。
该咨询公司预测，到4月份，账单可能会升至4426英镑，之后会有所下降。就在一周前，Cornwall Insight还预测，从今年1月起，能源价格上限有望升至每年3615英镑。
The consumer champion Martin Lewis said the latest forecast was “tragic news” and urged the “zombie government” to come up with an immediate action plan to help households.
消费者权益捍卫者马丁·刘易斯表示，最新的预测是一个“悲惨的消息”，并敦促“僵尸政府”立即拿出一项行动计划来帮助家庭。
消费者权益捍卫者马丁·刘易斯表示，最新的预测是一个“悲惨的消息”，并敦促“僵尸政府”立即拿出一项行动计划来帮助家庭。
The former chancellor Rishi Sunak announced a £15bn support package for consumers in May, including £400 for every household. However, rising wholesale prices have since threatened to wipe out the impact of that support and Sunak and his Tory leadership rival, Liz Truss, are under pressure to announce further measures.
今年5月，英国前财政大臣里希·苏纳克宣布了一项150亿英镑的消费者支持计划，其中包括向每个家庭发放400英镑。然而，自那以来，不断上涨的批发价格可能会抵消这种支持的影响，而苏纳克和他的保守党党魁对手利兹·特拉斯面临着宣布进一步措施的压力。
今年5月，英国前财政大臣里希·苏纳克宣布了一项150亿英镑的消费者支持计划，其中包括向每个家庭发放400英镑。然而，自那以来，不断上涨的批发价格可能会抵消这种支持的影响，而苏纳克和他的保守党党魁对手利兹·特拉斯面临着宣布进一步措施的压力。
Peter Matejic, chief analyst at the Joseph Rowntree Foundation, a charity that aims to tackle poverty, said: “Every day action is delayed is increasing anxiety for low-income families who do not know how they will get by this winter.
旨在解决贫困问题的慈善机构约瑟夫·朗特里基金会的首席分析师彼得·马泰季奇说：“行动每拖延一天，就会增加低收入家庭的焦虑，他们不知道如何度过这个冬天。”
旨在解决贫困问题的慈善机构约瑟夫·朗特里基金会的首席分析师彼得·马泰季奇说：“行动每拖延一天，就会增加低收入家庭的焦虑，他们不知道如何度过这个冬天。”
“The payments promised by the government earlier in the year offer some help but their scale has been overtaken by events, and they must now be at least doubled if they are to protect people from serious hardship on a massive scale.”
“政府今年早些时候承诺的款项提供了一些帮助，但其规模已被事态超越，如果要保护人们免受大规模严重困难，现在必须至少增加一倍。”
“政府今年早些时候承诺的款项提供了一些帮助，但其规模已被事态超越，如果要保护人们免受大规模严重困难，现在必须至少增加一倍。”
Cornwall Insight said rising wholesale prices and a revision of the methodology used by the regulator Ofgem to calculate the price cap were behind the increase in its forecasts.
Cornwall Insight表示，批发价格上涨，以及监管机构英国天然气与电力市场办公室修正了计算价格上限的方法，是其预测上调的原因。
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Cornwall Insight表示，批发价格上涨，以及监管机构英国天然气与电力市场办公室修正了计算价格上限的方法，是其预测上调的原因。
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The consultancy’s principal consultant, Dr Craig Lowrey, said: “It is essential that the government use our predictions to spur on a review of the support package being offered to consumers.”
该咨询公司的首席顾问克雷格·洛瑞博士说：“政府利用我们的预测来推动对提供给消费者的一揽子支持方案的审查是至关重要的。”
该咨询公司的首席顾问克雷格·洛瑞博士说：“政府利用我们的预测来推动对提供给消费者的一揽子支持方案的审查是至关重要的。”
The consultancy now expects the cap to hit £3,582 from October, an increase of £200 on its last forecast. It expects bills to begin easing next summer, to £3,810 in the third quarter and then £3,781 in the final three months of next year.
该咨询公司目前预计，从10月份起，这一上限将达到3582英镑，比上一次预测增加了200英镑。该机构预计，明年夏天账单将开始减少，第三季度为3810英镑，明年最后三个月为3781英镑。
该咨询公司目前预计，从10月份起，这一上限将达到3582英镑，比上一次预测增加了200英镑。该机构预计，明年夏天账单将开始减少，第三季度为3810英镑，明年最后三个月为3781英镑。
The cap, which is set quarterly by the energy industry regulator, Ofgem, was at £1,400 a year as recently as October last year.
英国能源行业监管机构天然气与电力市场办公室每季度设定一次上限，去年10月时还在1400英镑/年。
英国能源行业监管机构天然气与电力市场办公室每季度设定一次上限，去年10月时还在1400英镑/年。
Lowrey said: “If the £400 was not enough to make a dent in the impact of our previous forecast, it most certainly is not enough now.
洛瑞说：“如果400英镑还不足以削弱我们之前预测的影响，那么现在肯定也是不够的。”
洛瑞说：“如果400英镑还不足以削弱我们之前预测的影响，那么现在肯定也是不够的。”
“The government must make introducing more support over the first two quarters of 2023 a number one priority. In the longer term, a social tariff or other support mechanism to target support at the most vulnerable in society are options that we at Cornwall Insight have proposed previously. Right now, the current price cap is not working for consumers, suppliers, or the economy.”
“政府必须把在2023年前两个季度提供更多支持作为首要任务。从长远来看，我们Cornwall Insight以前就提出过，通过社会关税或其他支持机制来针对社会中最脆弱的群体提供支持。目前，当前的价格上限对消费者、供应商或经济都不起作用。”
“政府必须把在2023年前两个季度提供更多支持作为首要任务。从长远来看，我们Cornwall Insight以前就提出过，通过社会关税或其他支持机制来针对社会中最脆弱的群体提供支持。目前，当前的价格上限对消费者、供应商或经济都不起作用。”
Ofgem last week confirmed plans to upxe the price cap every three months, instead of every six months, in an effort to allow suppliers to better manage the risk from volatile wholesale prices and prevent higher prices for consumers as a result of suppliers going bust.
天然气与电力市场办公室上周证实，计划每三个月更新一次价格上限，而不是每六个月更新一次，以使供应商更好地管理批发价格波动带来的风险，并防止供应商破产导致消费者价格上涨。
天然气与电力市场办公室上周证实，计划每三个月更新一次价格上限，而不是每六个月更新一次，以使供应商更好地管理批发价格波动带来的风险，并防止供应商破产导致消费者价格上涨。
The regulator is attempting to prevent a repeat of events last year, when almost 30 suppliers collapsed, in part due to a rise in wholesale energy prices.
该监管机构正试图防止去年的事件重演，当时近30家供应商倒闭，部分原因是能源批发价格上涨。
该监管机构正试图防止去年的事件重演，当时近30家供应商倒闭，部分原因是能源批发价格上涨。
Lowrey said changes to the cap had led to an increase in its predictions. However, he said the move would protect suppliers struggling with costs and prevent the cost of their collapses being added to consumers’ bills.
洛瑞说上限的改变导致了预测的增加。不过，他表示，此举将保护与成本作斗争的供应商，并防止它们倒闭的成本增加到消费者的账单上。
洛瑞说上限的改变导致了预测的增加。不过，他表示，此举将保护与成本作斗争的供应商，并防止它们倒闭的成本增加到消费者的账单上。
Ofgem plans to confirm the level of the next price cap on 26 August, days before the next prime minister will be announced on 5 September. The cap will come into force from 1 October.
天然气与电力市场办公室计划在下一任首相就位的9月5日之前的8月26日确认下一个价格上限的水平。这一上限将于10月1日生效。
天然气与电力市场办公室计划在下一任首相就位的9月5日之前的8月26日确认下一个价格上限的水平。这一上限将于10月1日生效。
Martin Lewis, the founder of the MoneySavingExpert website, wrote on Twitter: “Action and planning is needed now. The zombie govt needs to wake up sooner than 5 Sept. The leadership debate must not ignore this portentous national cataclysm any more.”
“省钱专家”网站的创始人马丁·刘易斯在推特上写道：“现在需要行动和计划。僵尸政府需要在9月5日之前醒过来。领导层的辩论不能再忽视这个预兆性的国家灾难了。”
“省钱专家”网站的创始人马丁·刘易斯在推特上写道：“现在需要行动和计划。僵尸政府需要在9月5日之前醒过来。领导层的辩论不能再忽视这个预兆性的国家灾难了。”
Lewis added: “People’s livelihoods, mental wellbeing and in some cases very lives depend on this. This is desperate.”
刘易斯补充说：“人们的生计、精神健康，在某些情况下甚至是生命都取决于此。这是绝望的。”
刘易斯补充说：“人们的生计、精神健康，在某些情况下甚至是生命都取决于此。这是绝望的。”
Simon Francis, coordinator of the End Fuel Poverty Coalition, said: “A tsunami of fuel poverty will hit the country this winter and these latest estimates further demonstrate that the level of support already promised by the government is just a drop in the ocean.”
“终结燃料贫困联盟”协调员西蒙·弗朗西斯说：“今年冬天，燃料贫困的海啸将袭击这个国家，最新的估计进一步表明，政府已经承诺的支持水平只是杯水车薪。”
“终结燃料贫困联盟”协调员西蒙·弗朗西斯说：“今年冬天，燃料贫困的海啸将袭击这个国家，最新的估计进一步表明，政府已经承诺的支持水平只是杯水车薪。”
Jane Tully, a director at the Money Advice Trust, said: “Government support announced so far to help with energy and cost of living price rises has been welcome but does not get close to matching the scale of the challenge households now face.”
“金钱建议信托”的董事简·塔利表示：“政府迄今宣布的帮助解决能源和生活成本上涨问题的支持措施受到了欢迎，但与目前家庭面临的挑战的规模还相差甚远。”
“金钱建议信托”的董事简·塔利表示：“政府迄今宣布的帮助解决能源和生活成本上涨问题的支持措施受到了欢迎，但与目前家庭面临的挑战的规模还相差甚远。”
A report by the comparison site Uswitch on Wednesday said households owed £1.3bn to their energy suppliers. The overall debt bill was already three times higher than it had been a year ago and was expected to grow this winter, the report said.
比较网站Uswitch周三发布的一份报告称，英国家庭欠能源供应商13亿英镑。报告称，总体债务账单已经是一年前的三倍，预计今年冬天还会增加。
比较网站Uswitch周三发布的一份报告称，英国家庭欠能源供应商13亿英镑。报告称，总体债务账单已经是一年前的三倍，预计今年冬天还会增加。
Six million households across the UK now owe an average of £206 to their energy provider, up from £188 in April. The number of homes in credit to their supplier has dropped from 11m to 9m since April.
目前，英国600万家庭平均欠能源供应商206英镑，高于4月份的188英镑。自4月以来，能源卡里有余额的家庭数量已经从1100万降至了900万。
目前，英国600万家庭平均欠能源供应商206英镑，高于4月份的188英镑。自4月以来，能源卡里有余额的家庭数量已经从1100万降至了900万。
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116YearsWarOptimist
People just don't have that amount of money, how are they expected to pay it?
人们没有那么多钱，你怎么指望他们支付？
People just don't have that amount of money, how are they expected to pay it?
人们没有那么多钱，你怎么指望他们支付？
Sniffmyplasticglue
Or they die of cold. Or hunger. Take your pick.
要么冻死，要么饿死。二选一吧。
Or they die of cold. Or hunger. Take your pick.
要么冻死，要么饿死。二选一吧。
SomeRedditWanker
They just go cold, and stop spending money on anything else.
How cold they go, will depend a lot on how much discretionary income they used to have.
他们会选冷，并且不再花钱在其他任何东西上。
他们有多冷，将在很大程度上取决于他们之前有多少可支配收入。
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They just go cold, and stop spending money on anything else.
How cold they go, will depend a lot on how much discretionary income they used to have.
他们会选冷，并且不再花钱在其他任何东西上。
他们有多冷，将在很大程度上取决于他们之前有多少可支配收入。
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wizzo42
The elderly will get really cold. Dead cold.
Unless a brain cell starts working in central government soon, this winter will be truly miserable for an awful lot of people, including me. We do not have the stretch in our budget, or savings, or be able to afford the energy price hikes, the interest rate changes (there will be more), the petrol price hikes or the food price rises. We are a single income household (partner is seriously ill but recovering), no benefits, one mortgage, and I have to travel to work in a rural community. We scrimp and save every month. We haven’t been on holiday for ten years. We don’t have the spare cash to go out regularly. My work has had a pay freeze for 12 years so I’m actually about £7k worse off than I should be if I had had cost of living pay rises year on year.
This is what Tory government always does. It screws up dealing with an economy in poor shape and there is no empathy at the top that ensure mitigations are put in place. It has happened time and again. Stop voting them in, guys. Conservative manifestos are always a con.
老年人会觉得很冷。冻死那种冷。
除非中央政府很快有一个脑细胞开始工作，否则这个冬天对包括我在内的很多人来说将是真正悲惨的。我们没有足够的预算，没有足够的储蓄，也没有能力承受能源价格上涨、利率变化（还会有更多）、汽油价格上涨或食品价格上涨。我们是一个单收入家庭（老伴病得很重，但正在康复中），没有福利，只有一笔抵押贷款，我还得去农村社区工作。我们每个月都省吃俭用。我们有十年没去度假了。我们没有闲钱定期外出。我的工作已经12年不涨工资了，所以如果我的生活成本逐年上涨，那我实际上比我应该得到的少了7000英镑。
这是保守党政府一贯的做法。它把应对糟糕的经济形势搞得一团糟，而且高层没有同情心来确保缓解措施到位。这种情况已经发生了一次又一次。别给他们投票了，伙计们。保守党的宣言总是一个骗局。
The elderly will get really cold. Dead cold.
Unless a brain cell starts working in central government soon, this winter will be truly miserable for an awful lot of people, including me. We do not have the stretch in our budget, or savings, or be able to afford the energy price hikes, the interest rate changes (there will be more), the petrol price hikes or the food price rises. We are a single income household (partner is seriously ill but recovering), no benefits, one mortgage, and I have to travel to work in a rural community. We scrimp and save every month. We haven’t been on holiday for ten years. We don’t have the spare cash to go out regularly. My work has had a pay freeze for 12 years so I’m actually about £7k worse off than I should be if I had had cost of living pay rises year on year.
This is what Tory government always does. It screws up dealing with an economy in poor shape and there is no empathy at the top that ensure mitigations are put in place. It has happened time and again. Stop voting them in, guys. Conservative manifestos are always a con.
老年人会觉得很冷。冻死那种冷。
除非中央政府很快有一个脑细胞开始工作，否则这个冬天对包括我在内的很多人来说将是真正悲惨的。我们没有足够的预算，没有足够的储蓄，也没有能力承受能源价格上涨、利率变化（还会有更多）、汽油价格上涨或食品价格上涨。我们是一个单收入家庭（老伴病得很重，但正在康复中），没有福利，只有一笔抵押贷款，我还得去农村社区工作。我们每个月都省吃俭用。我们有十年没去度假了。我们没有闲钱定期外出。我的工作已经12年不涨工资了，所以如果我的生活成本逐年上涨，那我实际上比我应该得到的少了7000英镑。
这是保守党政府一贯的做法。它把应对糟糕的经济形势搞得一团糟，而且高层没有同情心来确保缓解措施到位。这种情况已经发生了一次又一次。别给他们投票了，伙计们。保守党的宣言总是一个骗局。
Shmeckless
This is ludicrous. They simply cannot expect anyone apart from the wealthy to afford this. Guaranteed civil unrest in the new year.
太可笑了。他们根本不能指望除了富人之外的任何人负担得起。明年肯定会爆发内乱的。
This is ludicrous. They simply cannot expect anyone apart from the wealthy to afford this. Guaranteed civil unrest in the new year.
太可笑了。他们根本不能指望除了富人之外的任何人负担得起。明年肯定会爆发内乱的。
belzebuddy75
The problem is we won't rise up. We won't because we live on the Internet, we rattle our sabres here and in our echo Chambers. We won't because as a nation we just don't have the fight in us anymore we are lazy, we will shout and complain but we won't physically get out of our houses and march....someone else will do it for us, but that someone is thinking the same thing "someone else will do it for us" it's a cycle we as a nation have gotten ourselves into.
This is a rant, I feel at an utter loss after an hour arguing with octopus energy to lower my bill after they decided to hike another £80 onto my monthly usage. I am tired, physically and mentally.
And this is how they will win.
问题是我们不会反抗。我们不会，因为我们生活在互联网上，我们在这里和回音室里挥舞我们的军刀。我们不会，因为作为一个国家，我们已经没有斗志了，我们懒惰，我们会大喊大叫，抱怨，但我们不会走出我们的房子去游行……因为别人会为我们做这件事，但有人也在想“别人会为我们做这件事”，这是我们作为一个国家自己陷入的一个循环。
这是一种咆哮，我和章鱼能源公司争论了一个小时，他们决定在我的月使用量上再增加80英镑，我觉得完全失去了理智。我身心都很累。
这就是他们获胜的方式。
The problem is we won't rise up. We won't because we live on the Internet, we rattle our sabres here and in our echo Chambers. We won't because as a nation we just don't have the fight in us anymore we are lazy, we will shout and complain but we won't physically get out of our houses and march....someone else will do it for us, but that someone is thinking the same thing "someone else will do it for us" it's a cycle we as a nation have gotten ourselves into.
This is a rant, I feel at an utter loss after an hour arguing with octopus energy to lower my bill after they decided to hike another £80 onto my monthly usage. I am tired, physically and mentally.
And this is how they will win.
问题是我们不会反抗。我们不会，因为我们生活在互联网上，我们在这里和回音室里挥舞我们的军刀。我们不会，因为作为一个国家，我们已经没有斗志了，我们懒惰，我们会大喊大叫，抱怨，但我们不会走出我们的房子去游行……因为别人会为我们做这件事，但有人也在想“别人会为我们做这件事”，这是我们作为一个国家自己陷入的一个循环。
这是一种咆哮，我和章鱼能源公司争论了一个小时，他们决定在我的月使用量上再增加80英镑，我觉得完全失去了理智。我身心都很累。
这就是他们获胜的方式。
Fatal-Strategies
I have marched against BREXIT and student loans in the past.
Of course you know deep down that it's not going to change anything, but there is a sense that at least you are doing something, at least exercising the democratic rights that this (and previous 'liberal') governments want to take away.
Honestly, all of those marches that I have been on were great. A sense of collectivism and uniting behind one cause. Take your kids to learn about democracy. If we don't, it will be lost and things like this will become more normal than they already are.
On topic. I will pay my bills because I can afford it. I also think that those who can afford to pay should bear more of the burden (higher, not lower NI) as higher earners, but at the same time, wealth should be taxed too: if you're living in a big pile in the Cotswolds, why are you paying less tax than an Amazon worker in the East Midlands?
I am likely to back the Don't Pay movement either by direct action or funding them, but I totally understand and condone people not paying and I hope that they will achieve their aims. Governments have stopped listening, but they need to be held accountable and that power does not exist for their own ends, but because they were put there by the people: after all democracy, is rule by the people, for the people.
我过去曾游行反对英国脱欧和学生贷款。
当然，你内心深处知道这不会改变任何事情，但有一种感觉，至少你在做一些事情，至少行使民主权利——这是这届（和前“自由”政府）想要剥夺的东西。
说实话，我参加的那些游行都很棒。集体主义意识，团结一心。带你的孩子去学习民主。如果我们不这样做，它就会失去，（涨价）这样的事情就会变得比现在更正常。
回到主题。我会付账单，因为我付得起。我还认为，那些有能力支付的人作为高收入者应该承担更多的负担（更高的，而不是更低的国民收入），但与此同时，财富也应该被征税：如果你住在科茨沃尔德的一大堆房子里，凭什么你交的税比东米德兰兹的亚马逊工人少？
我可能会通过直接行动或资助来支持“不付钱”运动，但我完全理解和宽恕那些不付钱的人，我希望他们能实现自己的目标。政府已经停止倾听，但他们需要承担责任，这种权力的存在不是为了他们自己的目的，而是因为他们是由人民赋予的：毕竟民主是民治、民享的。
I have marched against BREXIT and student loans in the past.
Of course you know deep down that it's not going to change anything, but there is a sense that at least you are doing something, at least exercising the democratic rights that this (and previous 'liberal') governments want to take away.
Honestly, all of those marches that I have been on were great. A sense of collectivism and uniting behind one cause. Take your kids to learn about democracy. If we don't, it will be lost and things like this will become more normal than they already are.
On topic. I will pay my bills because I can afford it. I also think that those who can afford to pay should bear more of the burden (higher, not lower NI) as higher earners, but at the same time, wealth should be taxed too: if you're living in a big pile in the Cotswolds, why are you paying less tax than an Amazon worker in the East Midlands?
I am likely to back the Don't Pay movement either by direct action or funding them, but I totally understand and condone people not paying and I hope that they will achieve their aims. Governments have stopped listening, but they need to be held accountable and that power does not exist for their own ends, but because they were put there by the people: after all democracy, is rule by the people, for the people.
我过去曾游行反对英国脱欧和学生贷款。
当然，你内心深处知道这不会改变任何事情，但有一种感觉，至少你在做一些事情，至少行使民主权利——这是这届（和前“自由”政府）想要剥夺的东西。
说实话，我参加的那些游行都很棒。集体主义意识，团结一心。带你的孩子去学习民主。如果我们不这样做，它就会失去，（涨价）这样的事情就会变得比现在更正常。
回到主题。我会付账单，因为我付得起。我还认为，那些有能力支付的人作为高收入者应该承担更多的负担（更高的，而不是更低的国民收入），但与此同时，财富也应该被征税：如果你住在科茨沃尔德的一大堆房子里，凭什么你交的税比东米德兰兹的亚马逊工人少？
我可能会通过直接行动或资助来支持“不付钱”运动，但我完全理解和宽恕那些不付钱的人，我希望他们能实现自己的目标。政府已经停止倾听，但他们需要承担责任，这种权力的存在不是为了他们自己的目的，而是因为他们是由人民赋予的：毕竟民主是民治、民享的。
KoolKarmaKollector
The pandemic has shown us that the majority of people will do what they are told
Putting any personal beliefs or conspiracies aside, no matter how angry people have been at the government recently, the general consensus is that most people will happily take a truncheon up the arse
Eventually though, if it finally reaches the point where most people are being evicted, starving, or getting cold, people may finally stand up for themselves
This winter will be a tough one for every single person on this island
这场大流行病向我们表明，大多数人会按（政府的）要求行事
撇开个人信仰或阴谋不谈，不管人们最近对政府有多愤怒，普遍的共识是，大多数人会很高兴地接受一根警棍打在自己的屁股上
然而，如果最终到了大多数人被驱逐、挨饿或受冻的地步，人们可能才会最终站出来为自己而斗争
这个冬天对这个岛上的每个人来说都将是艰难的
The pandemic has shown us that the majority of people will do what they are told
Putting any personal beliefs or conspiracies aside, no matter how angry people have been at the government recently, the general consensus is that most people will happily take a truncheon up the arse
Eventually though, if it finally reaches the point where most people are being evicted, starving, or getting cold, people may finally stand up for themselves
This winter will be a tough one for every single person on this island
这场大流行病向我们表明，大多数人会按（政府的）要求行事
撇开个人信仰或阴谋不谈，不管人们最近对政府有多愤怒，普遍的共识是，大多数人会很高兴地接受一根警棍打在自己的屁股上
然而，如果最终到了大多数人被驱逐、挨饿或受冻的地步，人们可能才会最终站出来为自己而斗争
这个冬天对这个岛上的每个人来说都将是艰难的
SomeRedditWanker
It'll be £5k+ by the time winter actually arrives.
Economy is going to enter such a fucking death spiral as consumers have no money to consume with. When that November bill hits households, it's game over for the economy without MASSIVE state intervention.
RemindMe! December
等冬天真正到来的时候，价格会超过5000英镑。
经济将进入一个该死的死亡漩涡，因为消费者没有钱消费。当11月的账单送到家庭时，如果没有大规模的政府干预，经济就完蛋了。
立帖为证！12月见分晓
It'll be £5k+ by the time winter actually arrives.
Economy is going to enter such a fucking death spiral as consumers have no money to consume with. When that November bill hits households, it's game over for the economy without MASSIVE state intervention.
RemindMe! December
等冬天真正到来的时候，价格会超过5000英镑。
经济将进入一个该死的死亡漩涡，因为消费者没有钱消费。当11月的账单送到家庭时，如果没有大规模的政府干预，经济就完蛋了。
立帖为证！12月见分晓
HotMachine9
Thats exactly why I'm so confused by both of our current PM candidates lack of prioritisation on curbing these bills.
Even if households manage to overcome these bills there is no disposable income. How is any business outside of massive corporation's meant to turn a profit?
GDP will shrink, the economy will shrink, the hospitality industry will likely get a massive falloff. As you said, its a death spiral no matter which way it goes. So why isn't it being taken seriously?
这就是为什么我对我们当前的两个首相候选人都不重视限制这些账单感到困惑的原因。
即使家庭设法克服了这些账单，他们也没有可支配收入了。这些（能源）大公司之外的生意还怎么可能盈利呢？
GDP会萎缩，经济会萎缩，酒店业可能会大幅下滑。就像你说的，这是一个死亡漩涡，无论它走向何方。那么，为什么还不把它当回事呢？
Thats exactly why I'm so confused by both of our current PM candidates lack of prioritisation on curbing these bills.
Even if households manage to overcome these bills there is no disposable income. How is any business outside of massive corporation's meant to turn a profit?
GDP will shrink, the economy will shrink, the hospitality industry will likely get a massive falloff. As you said, its a death spiral no matter which way it goes. So why isn't it being taken seriously?
这就是为什么我对我们当前的两个首相候选人都不重视限制这些账单感到困惑的原因。
即使家庭设法克服了这些账单，他们也没有可支配收入了。这些（能源）大公司之外的生意还怎么可能盈利呢？
GDP会萎缩，经济会萎缩，酒店业可能会大幅下滑。就像你说的，这是一个死亡漩涡，无论它走向何方。那么，为什么还不把它当回事呢？
Bohemiannapstudy
This recession is going to be as deep as the 1990s and as long as 2008. Actually, probably the worst recession in living memory as far as the relative decline in living standards is concerned. I don't know if unemployment will run that high, simply because we have a huge cohort of people in their late 50s and early 60s who are in a good position to retire early rather than be made redundant. Much like the pandemic, early retirement will eat up most of the potential job losses so there is a silver lining.
If you do manage to keep your job, you'll be in a pretty good position come 2024/25 when we finally begin to recover. But it's going to be particularly brutal. Just try and keep your head down this winter folks, best of luck.
这次衰退将会和上世纪90年代一样严重，持续时间将会和2008年那次一样长。事实上，就生活水平的相对下降而言，这可能会是人们记忆中最严重的衰退。我不知道失业率是否会达到那么高，仅仅因为我们有一大群50多岁和60多岁出头的人，他们有条件提前退休，而不是被解雇。就像疫情一样，提前退休会抵消掉大部分潜在的失业，所以还有一线希望。
如果你能保住你的工作，到2024/25年，当我们终于开始复苏时，你就会处于一个相当好的位置。但这将是特别残酷的。今年冬天尽量忍着点，祝好运。
This recession is going to be as deep as the 1990s and as long as 2008. Actually, probably the worst recession in living memory as far as the relative decline in living standards is concerned. I don't know if unemployment will run that high, simply because we have a huge cohort of people in their late 50s and early 60s who are in a good position to retire early rather than be made redundant. Much like the pandemic, early retirement will eat up most of the potential job losses so there is a silver lining.
If you do manage to keep your job, you'll be in a pretty good position come 2024/25 when we finally begin to recover. But it's going to be particularly brutal. Just try and keep your head down this winter folks, best of luck.
这次衰退将会和上世纪90年代一样严重，持续时间将会和2008年那次一样长。事实上，就生活水平的相对下降而言，这可能会是人们记忆中最严重的衰退。我不知道失业率是否会达到那么高，仅仅因为我们有一大群50多岁和60多岁出头的人，他们有条件提前退休，而不是被解雇。就像疫情一样，提前退休会抵消掉大部分潜在的失业，所以还有一线希望。
如果你能保住你的工作，到2024/25年，当我们终于开始复苏时，你就会处于一个相当好的位置。但这将是特别残酷的。今年冬天尽量忍着点，祝好运。
rdu3y6
The energy market in the UK is completely broken. A few big suppliers all charging the maximum possible with no real competition between them and a regulator that is not only failing to protect consumers, but is now fiddling with cap formula to push it even higher. Why aren't the cheaper costs associated with renewables (which make up 45% of energy generated in the UK) feeding through to consumers bills? Why are standing charges so high that even someone who sits in the dark only eating cold food will still struggle to afford their bills? It's time to admit that energy privatisation, like rail privatisation has completely failed to deliver.
英国的能源市场已经彻底崩溃了。一些大的供应商都尽可能收取最高的费用，而它们之间并不存在真正的竞争，监管机构不仅未能保护消费者，而且现在还在摆弄上限公式，将其推得更高。为什么与可再生能源（占英国能源生产的45%）相关的更便宜的成本没有反馈到消费者的账单上？为什么收费如此之高，以至于坐在黑暗中只吃冷的食物的人仍然难以支付他们的账单？现在是时候承认能源私有化，就像铁路私有化一样，完全没能实现设想了。
The energy market in the UK is completely broken. A few big suppliers all charging the maximum possible with no real competition between them and a regulator that is not only failing to protect consumers, but is now fiddling with cap formula to push it even higher. Why aren't the cheaper costs associated with renewables (which make up 45% of energy generated in the UK) feeding through to consumers bills? Why are standing charges so high that even someone who sits in the dark only eating cold food will still struggle to afford their bills? It's time to admit that energy privatisation, like rail privatisation has completely failed to deliver.
英国的能源市场已经彻底崩溃了。一些大的供应商都尽可能收取最高的费用，而它们之间并不存在真正的竞争，监管机构不仅未能保护消费者，而且现在还在摆弄上限公式，将其推得更高。为什么与可再生能源（占英国能源生产的45%）相关的更便宜的成本没有反馈到消费者的账单上？为什么收费如此之高，以至于坐在黑暗中只吃冷的食物的人仍然难以支付他们的账单？现在是时候承认能源私有化，就像铁路私有化一样，完全没能实现设想了。
NGP91
Wonder how much pressure there will be to ease sanctions on Russia this winter?
Putin's regime will either watch people across Europe suffering with cold this winter with glee and/or will watch the social and political fallout from high gas prices with glee.
My guess is that after being ordered to make sacrifices for others a lot over the past few years (Covid) then being ordered to make further sacrifices by being cold and miserable will probably be the straw that breaks the camels back.
不知道今年冬天会有多大的压力来放松对俄罗斯的制裁？
普京政权要么会高兴地看着整个欧洲的人民在这个冬天忍受寒冷，要么会高兴地看着高油价带来的社会和政治后果。
我的猜测是，在过去的几年里，被命令为他人做出牺牲（疫情），然后被命令通过寒冷和痛苦做出进一步的牺牲，可能会是压垮骆驼的最后一根稻草。
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Wonder how much pressure there will be to ease sanctions on Russia this winter?
Putin's regime will either watch people across Europe suffering with cold this winter with glee and/or will watch the social and political fallout from high gas prices with glee.
My guess is that after being ordered to make sacrifices for others a lot over the past few years (Covid) then being ordered to make further sacrifices by being cold and miserable will probably be the straw that breaks the camels back.
不知道今年冬天会有多大的压力来放松对俄罗斯的制裁？
普京政权要么会高兴地看着整个欧洲的人民在这个冬天忍受寒冷，要么会高兴地看着高油价带来的社会和政治后果。
我的猜测是，在过去的几年里，被命令为他人做出牺牲（疫情），然后被命令通过寒冷和痛苦做出进一步的牺牲，可能会是压垮骆驼的最后一根稻草。
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Cub3h
I'd rather they eased sanctions on places like Venezuela or even Iran as much as I hate the regime there. Neither of those countries are actively invading and pillaging a country like Russia is doing.
我宁愿他们放松对委内瑞拉甚至伊朗的制裁，尽管我讨厌那里的政权。这两个国家都没有像俄罗斯那样积极侵略和掠夺一个国家。
I'd rather they eased sanctions on places like Venezuela or even Iran as much as I hate the regime there. Neither of those countries are actively invading and pillaging a country like Russia is doing.
我宁愿他们放松对委内瑞拉甚至伊朗的制裁，尽管我讨厌那里的政权。这两个国家都没有像俄罗斯那样积极侵略和掠夺一个国家。
NGP91
Is that even a possibility? My understanding is that Russia has such a command because the physical infrastructure there is in place such as pipelines means that it's impossible for other countries to plug the gap because there aren't enough LNG ships or LNG facilities in Venezuela or Iran to supply Europe the gas it would get otherwise from Russia.
有这种可能吗？我的理解是，俄罗斯有这样的强势地位，因为那里的物理基础设施，比如管道，意味着其他国家不可能填补这一缺口，因为委内瑞拉或伊朗没有足够的液化天然气船舶或液化天然气设施向欧洲（取代）供应从俄罗斯获得的天然气。
Is that even a possibility? My understanding is that Russia has such a command because the physical infrastructure there is in place such as pipelines means that it's impossible for other countries to plug the gap because there aren't enough LNG ships or LNG facilities in Venezuela or Iran to supply Europe the gas it would get otherwise from Russia.
有这种可能吗？我的理解是，俄罗斯有这样的强势地位，因为那里的物理基础设施，比如管道，意味着其他国家不可能填补这一缺口，因为委内瑞拉或伊朗没有足够的液化天然气船舶或液化天然气设施向欧洲（取代）供应从俄罗斯获得的天然气。
yellowbai
This is the reckoning that Putin is gambling on. A few nations in Europe could change governments. Will be interesting to see what happens. Hopefully the Tories are out of power soon.
这就是普京押注的结果。欧洲的一些国家可能会更换政府。接下来会发生什么，我们拭目以待。希望保守党很快下台。
This is the reckoning that Putin is gambling on. A few nations in Europe could change governments. Will be interesting to see what happens. Hopefully the Tories are out of power soon.
这就是普京押注的结果。欧洲的一些国家可能会更换政府。接下来会发生什么，我们拭目以待。希望保守党很快下台。
SendAwayThe_Tigers
If this doesn't cause the British people to revolt then nothing ever will.
如果这都不能引起英国人民的叛乱，那就没有什么能引起叛乱了。
If this doesn't cause the British people to revolt then nothing ever will.
如果这都不能引起英国人民的叛乱，那就没有什么能引起叛乱了。
carl0071
Many families will have zero disposable income which will affect hospitality, retail and domestic tourism the hardest.
We will end up like a third world country where even a basic restaurant meal is considered an unaffordable luxury for the majority of families.
许多家庭的可支配收入将为零，这将对酒店业、零售业和国内旅游业造成最严重的影响。
我们最终会像第三世界国家一样——在那里，即使是最基本的餐厅用餐，对大多数家庭来说都是负担不起的奢侈品。
Many families will have zero disposable income which will affect hospitality, retail and domestic tourism the hardest.
We will end up like a third world country where even a basic restaurant meal is considered an unaffordable luxury for the majority of families.
许多家庭的可支配收入将为零，这将对酒店业、零售业和国内旅游业造成最严重的影响。
我们最终会像第三世界国家一样——在那里，即使是最基本的餐厅用餐，对大多数家庭来说都是负担不起的奢侈品。
James20kKingdom of England and Wales
The most amusing part about this is being told its just too darn expensive for the government to do anything about it. Someone cracked out a figure of £100B
This is after the government spent well in excess of that over covid in pure corruption, and handouts to their mates. There absolutely is the money to subsidise it and to enable people to not starve to death
More than that, the sole purpose of a government should be to the benefit of the people. We need a new system, because this one clearly is insane
最有意思的地方是，有人告诉我，补贴措施太贵了，政府对此无能为力。有人算出了1000亿英镑的数字
政府之前在疫情期间花在纯粹腐败和给裙带关系施舍上的钱远远超过了这个数目。绝对有让人们不至于饿死的补贴资金
不仅如此，政府的唯一目的应该是为人民谋福利。我们需要一个新的体制，因为现在这个体制显然是疯了
The most amusing part about this is being told its just too darn expensive for the government to do anything about it. Someone cracked out a figure of £100B
This is after the government spent well in excess of that over covid in pure corruption, and handouts to their mates. There absolutely is the money to subsidise it and to enable people to not starve to death
More than that, the sole purpose of a government should be to the benefit of the people. We need a new system, because this one clearly is insane
最有意思的地方是，有人告诉我，补贴措施太贵了，政府对此无能为力。有人算出了1000亿英镑的数字
政府之前在疫情期间花在纯粹腐败和给裙带关系施舍上的钱远远超过了这个数目。绝对有让人们不至于饿死的补贴资金
不仅如此，政府的唯一目的应该是为人民谋福利。我们需要一个新的体制，因为现在这个体制显然是疯了
patters22
It's obvious to say at this point but household bills are just 1 element here. Energy underpins everything, with even higher energy prices we'll get even higher inflation and almost everything else will increase.
Don't worry though BoE will increase your mortgage payments so when it comes time to choose between heating your home or being homeless you'll just cut your energy usage.
很明显，目前，家庭账单只是其中的一个因素。能源支撑着一切，能源价格越高，通货膨胀就会越高，几乎所有的东西都会上涨。
不过别担心，英国央行会增加你的抵押贷款支付额，所以当你在为你的家供暖还是无家可归之间做出选择时，你只会减少你的能源使用量。
It's obvious to say at this point but household bills are just 1 element here. Energy underpins everything, with even higher energy prices we'll get even higher inflation and almost everything else will increase.
Don't worry though BoE will increase your mortgage payments so when it comes time to choose between heating your home or being homeless you'll just cut your energy usage.
很明显，目前，家庭账单只是其中的一个因素。能源支撑着一切，能源价格越高，通货膨胀就会越高，几乎所有的东西都会上涨。
不过别担心，英国央行会增加你的抵押贷款支付额，所以当你在为你的家供暖还是无家可归之间做出选择时，你只会减少你的能源使用量。
Akkyoy
Even trying to cut back on energy use is only going to go so far. My standing rate charge has doubled since last year and that's before I even flick on a switch.
Many people are already stretched to the edge of their budgets, where are they going to magically pull an extra £200-300 from for energy every month? This is going to be an absolute disaster for the country without the government intervening.
即使是试图减少能源使用，效果也只能到此为止了。自去年以来，我的固定费率已经翻了一番，这还是在我打开开关之前。
许多人已经到了预算的边缘，他们要从哪里神奇地每月从能源支出中多出200-300英镑呢？如果没有政府的干预，这对这个国家来说绝对是一场灾难。
Even trying to cut back on energy use is only going to go so far. My standing rate charge has doubled since last year and that's before I even flick on a switch.
Many people are already stretched to the edge of their budgets, where are they going to magically pull an extra £200-300 from for energy every month? This is going to be an absolute disaster for the country without the government intervening.
即使是试图减少能源使用，效果也只能到此为止了。自去年以来，我的固定费率已经翻了一番，这还是在我打开开关之前。
许多人已经到了预算的边缘，他们要从哪里神奇地每月从能源支出中多出200-300英镑呢？如果没有政府的干预，这对这个国家来说绝对是一场灾难。
PoachTWC
I fully expect Russia to start making gas offers come November or December time when unrest over this is in full swing and I fully expect some governments to cave to the pressure.
Russia has been setting up this game plan for decades and yes, the EU has now learned to transition away from Russian energy, so they only get to play this card once, but they'll get a solid chunk of Ukraine by playing it.
我完全预计俄罗斯会在11月或12月开始提供天然气，那时有关此事的动荡正如火如荼，我完全预计一些国家的政府会屈服于压力。
俄罗斯已经制定这个游戏计划几十年了，是的，欧盟现在已经学会了摆脱对俄罗斯能源的依赖，所以他们只能打这张牌一次，但他们会通过打这张牌获得了乌克兰的一大块土地。
I fully expect Russia to start making gas offers come November or December time when unrest over this is in full swing and I fully expect some governments to cave to the pressure.
Russia has been setting up this game plan for decades and yes, the EU has now learned to transition away from Russian energy, so they only get to play this card once, but they'll get a solid chunk of Ukraine by playing it.
我完全预计俄罗斯会在11月或12月开始提供天然气，那时有关此事的动荡正如火如荼，我完全预计一些国家的政府会屈服于压力。
俄罗斯已经制定这个游戏计划几十年了，是的，欧盟现在已经学会了摆脱对俄罗斯能源的依赖，所以他们只能打这张牌一次，但他们会通过打这张牌获得了乌克兰的一大块土地。
markhewitt1978
This will basically end society as we know it. Tens of millions just don't have the money for this. Those who do won't have any money for anything else.
这将基本终结我们所知的社会。数千万人根本没钱交账单。那些能交账单的人将没有钱做其他任何事情。
This will basically end society as we know it. Tens of millions just don't have the money for this. Those who do won't have any money for anything else.
这将基本终结我们所知的社会。数千万人根本没钱交账单。那些能交账单的人将没有钱做其他任何事情。
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