欧洲人认为美国人是伪君子和不文明的吗?
正文翻译
Do Europeans think that Americans are hypocrites and uncivilized?
欧洲人认为美国人是伪君子和不文明的吗?
Do Europeans think that Americans are hypocrites and uncivilized?
欧洲人认为美国人是伪君子和不文明的吗?
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Jean-Marie Valheur
My cousin married an American girl two years ago. He’s a liberal European guy, she’s a conservative Christian girl from a pro-Trump republican family. I was expecting him to report back to me about the terrible ‘culture shock’ he’d experienced… I was surprised to hear him say, he felt nothing of the sort. His in-laws had embraced him with open arms, lovingly and without any judgement. They had some fierce debates, political debates, religious debates. But nothing too vicious or mean-spirited. In the end, they’d always “kiss and make up”, hug it out, laugh it off…
He’s a solid guy, and she’s a great girl. She’s not an uncivilised barbarian and neither is my cousin. They’re just two young people, who have different opinions and whose families are on different places of the political spectrum. Whatever disagreements they have, are easily solved over a beer and barbeque. They now have a little girl of their own, an absolute darling. The only time things got a little tense was when my uncle, my cousin’s dad, and the girl’s father had some political argument — my uncle is a lot more left-leaning than his son, and… rather exceptionally outspoken. This got him labeled a socialist. He didn’t deny being one. Then in comes cousin dearest with some jokes to defuse the situation.
我同辈的亲戚两年前娶了一个美国女孩。他是一个自由的欧洲人，她是一个保守的基督教女孩，来自支持特朗普的共和党家庭。我原以为他会向我抱怨他所经历的可怕的“文化冲击”……但我很惊讶地听到他说，他没有那种感觉。
他的姻亲们张开双臂，充满爱意地拥抱着他，丝毫不加评判。他们进行过激烈的辩论，政治辩论，宗教辩论，但没有恶毒或卑鄙。最后，他们总是“亲吻和好”，拥抱作结，一笑置之……
他是个可靠的男人，她是个好女孩。她不是未开化的野蛮人，我那兄弟也不是。他们只是两个有着不同观点的年轻人，他们的家庭也处于不同的政治立场。无论他们有什么分歧，都可以通过喝啤酒和吃烧烤轻松解决。他们现在有了一个自己的小女孩，一个绝对的宝贝。唯一一次事情变得有点紧张的时候是我叔叔、我兄弟的爸爸和女孩的爸爸发生了一些政治争论，我叔叔比他的儿子更左倾，而且……相当直言不讳。这让他被贴上了社会主义者的标签。他并不否认自己是其中之一。然后最亲爱的兄弟进来了，带着一些笑话来缓和局势。
My cousin married an American girl two years ago. He’s a liberal European guy, she’s a conservative Christian girl from a pro-Trump republican family. I was expecting him to report back to me about the terrible ‘culture shock’ he’d experienced… I was surprised to hear him say, he felt nothing of the sort. His in-laws had embraced him with open arms, lovingly and without any judgement. They had some fierce debates, political debates, religious debates. But nothing too vicious or mean-spirited. In the end, they’d always “kiss and make up”, hug it out, laugh it off…
He’s a solid guy, and she’s a great girl. She’s not an uncivilised barbarian and neither is my cousin. They’re just two young people, who have different opinions and whose families are on different places of the political spectrum. Whatever disagreements they have, are easily solved over a beer and barbeque. They now have a little girl of their own, an absolute darling. The only time things got a little tense was when my uncle, my cousin’s dad, and the girl’s father had some political argument — my uncle is a lot more left-leaning than his son, and… rather exceptionally outspoken. This got him labeled a socialist. He didn’t deny being one. Then in comes cousin dearest with some jokes to defuse the situation.
我同辈的亲戚两年前娶了一个美国女孩。他是一个自由的欧洲人，她是一个保守的基督教女孩，来自支持特朗普的共和党家庭。我原以为他会向我抱怨他所经历的可怕的“文化冲击”……但我很惊讶地听到他说，他没有那种感觉。
他的姻亲们张开双臂，充满爱意地拥抱着他，丝毫不加评判。他们进行过激烈的辩论，政治辩论，宗教辩论，但没有恶毒或卑鄙。最后，他们总是“亲吻和好”，拥抱作结，一笑置之……
他是个可靠的男人，她是个好女孩。她不是未开化的野蛮人，我那兄弟也不是。他们只是两个有着不同观点的年轻人，他们的家庭也处于不同的政治立场。无论他们有什么分歧，都可以通过喝啤酒和吃烧烤轻松解决。他们现在有了一个自己的小女孩，一个绝对的宝贝。唯一一次事情变得有点紧张的时候是我叔叔、我兄弟的爸爸和女孩的爸爸发生了一些政治争论，我叔叔比他的儿子更左倾，而且……相当直言不讳。这让他被贴上了社会主义者的标签。他并不否认自己是其中之一。然后最亲爱的兄弟进来了，带着一些笑话来缓和局势。
The worst Americans I’ve seen are a few folks I have on social media. Some Republicans, some Democrats. They come across very aggressive, combative, sometimes downright vicious. It’s quite a sharp contrast between them and the very cordial and kind in-laws of my cousin. They all came over for their ‘second wedding’ in our country, which was a lovely event. Many of their relatives and friends from the States came over, too. And nothing happened. No conflict. No bad arguments. No accusations. Just… people, getting along. Families, blending together. Some people just watch too much CNN and Fox News and develop this paranoid, negative view of the world. I find that reality is a lot less bleak.
My cousin and his wife are quite private about their views — she never posts about it on social media, and neither does he. It’s just pictures of their kid and their dog, family gatherings. Harmless stuff. They know when to speak up and when not to. Just like civilised people anywhere, really.
我见过的最糟糕的美国人是我在社交媒体上认识的几个人。一些是共和党人，一些是民主党人。他们非常好勇斗狠，有时甚至非常恶毒。他们和我兄弟的亲家形成了鲜明的对比，后者非常热情友好。
他们都来我们国家参加他们的“第二次婚礼”，这是一件可爱的事情。他们许多来自美国的亲戚和朋友也来到这里。什么（不愉快）都没有发生，没有冲突，没有糟糕的争论，没有指责。都只是……人，走到一起的、组建家庭的人，。
有些人只是看了太多CNN和福克斯新闻，形成了这种偏执的、消极的世界观。我发现现实远没有那么惨淡。
我兄弟和他的妻子对自己的观点非常保密——她从不在社交媒体上发布相关信息，他也不。只有孩子和狗的照片，家庭聚会——无害的东西。他们知道什么时候该说，什么时候不该说。就像其他文明的人一样，真的。
My cousin and his wife are quite private about their views — she never posts about it on social media, and neither does he. It’s just pictures of their kid and their dog, family gatherings. Harmless stuff. They know when to speak up and when not to. Just like civilised people anywhere, really.
我见过的最糟糕的美国人是我在社交媒体上认识的几个人。一些是共和党人，一些是民主党人。他们非常好勇斗狠，有时甚至非常恶毒。他们和我兄弟的亲家形成了鲜明的对比，后者非常热情友好。
他们都来我们国家参加他们的“第二次婚礼”，这是一件可爱的事情。他们许多来自美国的亲戚和朋友也来到这里。什么（不愉快）都没有发生，没有冲突，没有糟糕的争论，没有指责。都只是……人，走到一起的、组建家庭的人，。
有些人只是看了太多CNN和福克斯新闻，形成了这种偏执的、消极的世界观。我发现现实远没有那么惨淡。
我兄弟和他的妻子对自己的观点非常保密——她从不在社交媒体上发布相关信息，他也不。只有孩子和狗的照片，家庭聚会——无害的东西。他们知道什么时候该说，什么时候不该说。就像其他文明的人一样，真的。
Dan Birchfield
The people you describe sound much like my own family. We do not allow politics to get in the way of our family relationships. Everyone is much happier that way.
你描述的人听起来很像我自己的家人。我们不允许政治妨碍我们的家庭关系。这样每个人都更快乐。
The people you describe sound much like my own family. We do not allow politics to get in the way of our family relationships. Everyone is much happier that way.
你描述的人听起来很像我自己的家人。我们不允许政治妨碍我们的家庭关系。这样每个人都更快乐。
David Blankenship
There are many politically charged people in the USA, but the majority are not this way. At least not the people I know. You'll find this can vary depending on where you're at though. I'm in Texas and even if we disagree with you we are typically still going to show you our Southern hospitality.
Please do remember that if someone says “Well bless your heart.”, it's a polite way of saying we think you're an idiot though.
在美国有很多充满政治色彩的人，但大多数人不是这样的。至少我认识的人不会。你会发现这取决于你所处的位置。我在德州，即使我们不同意你的观点我们通常还是会向你展示我们南方的热情好客。
请记住，如果有人说:“好吧，保佑你的心。“这是一种礼貌的方式，表示我们认为你是一个白痴。
There are many politically charged people in the USA, but the majority are not this way. At least not the people I know. You'll find this can vary depending on where you're at though. I'm in Texas and even if we disagree with you we are typically still going to show you our Southern hospitality.
Please do remember that if someone says “Well bless your heart.”, it's a polite way of saying we think you're an idiot though.
在美国有很多充满政治色彩的人，但大多数人不是这样的。至少我认识的人不会。你会发现这取决于你所处的位置。我在德州，即使我们不同意你的观点我们通常还是会向你展示我们南方的热情好客。
请记住，如果有人说:“好吧，保佑你的心。“这是一种礼貌的方式，表示我们认为你是一个白痴。
Nick Yates
I had a person for whom friend is probably the best term, once, who was, in his world view, fairly antithetical to mine.
The funny thing was, we agreed about almost everything we discussed. The only thing that we actually disagreed about, other than a handful of elements relating to religion, was how to implement the solutions. My implementation strategies were based around consensus, education and support. His were more based around force, violence and imposition.
我曾经遇到过这样一个人，用“朋友”这个词来形容他可能再合适不过了，他的世界观曾经和我的世界观相当对立。
有趣的是，我们几乎对讨论的每件事都意见一致。除了少数与宗教有关的因素外，我们唯一存在分歧的是如何实施这些解决方案。我的实施策略是基于共识、教育和支持。他的理论更多的是基于武力、暴力和强迫。
I had a person for whom friend is probably the best term, once, who was, in his world view, fairly antithetical to mine.
The funny thing was, we agreed about almost everything we discussed. The only thing that we actually disagreed about, other than a handful of elements relating to religion, was how to implement the solutions. My implementation strategies were based around consensus, education and support. His were more based around force, violence and imposition.
我曾经遇到过这样一个人，用“朋友”这个词来形容他可能再合适不过了，他的世界观曾经和我的世界观相当对立。
有趣的是，我们几乎对讨论的每件事都意见一致。除了少数与宗教有关的因素外，我们唯一存在分歧的是如何实施这些解决方案。我的实施策略是基于共识、教育和支持。他的理论更多的是基于武力、暴力和强迫。
I understand his world view, though. The chap was from a very violent country in the lower reaches of the African Continent. When I analysed his views, they were based around creating a stable, safe environment for people to live in. Our goals were extremely similar, our views were broadly identical. But his preferred method of achieving the goal was the jackboot, not the mortarboard.
I personally think that people should be willing to actually talk to people they disagree with, and actually find out what they believe. They may well be pleasantly surprised by how similar they actually are, and how similar their desires are.
不过，我理解他的世界观。这家伙来自非洲大陆下游一个非常暴力的国家。当我分析他的观点时，他们是基于为人们创造一个稳定、安全的生活环境。我们的目标非常相似，我们的观点也大致相同。但他更喜欢的实现目标的方法是铁血，而不是学士帽。
我个人认为，人们应该愿意与他们不同意的人交谈，并找出他们的信仰。他们很可能会惊喜地发现他们实际上是如此相似，他们的愿望是如此相似。
I personally think that people should be willing to actually talk to people they disagree with, and actually find out what they believe. They may well be pleasantly surprised by how similar they actually are, and how similar their desires are.
不过，我理解他的世界观。这家伙来自非洲大陆下游一个非常暴力的国家。当我分析他的观点时，他们是基于为人们创造一个稳定、安全的生活环境。我们的目标非常相似，我们的观点也大致相同。但他更喜欢的实现目标的方法是铁血，而不是学士帽。
我个人认为，人们应该愿意与他们不同意的人交谈，并找出他们的信仰。他们很可能会惊喜地发现他们实际上是如此相似，他们的愿望是如此相似。
Paul O'Brien
99% of American’s are classically liberal. You do you and let me do me. We’re a melting pot, none of the same, and all of us wonderful and different with our own points of view and beliefs.
The real 1% that’s a problem for this country are the extremes left AND right who are so vocal that they make the world think we’re all trying to make everyone else be Progressive or Conservative.
99%的美国人是典型的自由主义者。你做你的，我做我的。我们是一个大熔炉，没有一样的东西，我们每个人都很棒，都有自己的观点和信仰。
这个国家真正的问题是那1%，他们是极端的左翼和右翼，他们如此直言不讳，让世界认为我们都在努力让其他人成为进步派或保守党。
99% of American’s are classically liberal. You do you and let me do me. We’re a melting pot, none of the same, and all of us wonderful and different with our own points of view and beliefs.
The real 1% that’s a problem for this country are the extremes left AND right who are so vocal that they make the world think we’re all trying to make everyone else be Progressive or Conservative.
99%的美国人是典型的自由主义者。你做你的，我做我的。我们是一个大熔炉，没有一样的东西，我们每个人都很棒，都有自己的观点和信仰。
这个国家真正的问题是那1%，他们是极端的左翼和右翼，他们如此直言不讳，让世界认为我们都在努力让其他人成为进步派或保守党。
Thao Truong
When you are not exposed to political opinions from social media anymore, you become much less jaded at the world, and find real people actually very reasonable, even those who have vastly different opinions than you. I am glad i unfollowed everything on fb though i can't get off it yet.
当你不再接触来自社交媒体的政治观点时，你会对这个世界变得不那么厌倦，并发现真实的人实际上非常通情达理，即使是那些与你有很大不同意见的人。
我很高兴我取消了在facebook上的所有关注，虽然我还不能离开它。
When you are not exposed to political opinions from social media anymore, you become much less jaded at the world, and find real people actually very reasonable, even those who have vastly different opinions than you. I am glad i unfollowed everything on fb though i can't get off it yet.
当你不再接触来自社交媒体的政治观点时，你会对这个世界变得不那么厌倦，并发现真实的人实际上非常通情达理，即使是那些与你有很大不同意见的人。
我很高兴我取消了在facebook上的所有关注，虽然我还不能离开它。
Alexander Serebriansky
You want a frank answer?
For an Eastern European, Americans roughly fall into two categories: civilized hypocrites, or more frank and straightforward less-civilized folks. Of course, this is a gross simplification.
Civilized hypocritesThis is a typical liberal-minded American you will find in a big, blue city. I interacted a lot with these people.
This person is quite educated, and pretty much well-behaved. He is polite, smiling, and, usually quite hypocrite by Eastern European standards.
This person will never have a frank conversation with you about any personal issues - yours or his. He will report you if you said or did something inappropriate, and smile to you the next day. If you have him as a co-worker, he will easily and comfortable back-stab you, no problem. If you have such a person as a manager, he will be smiling and telling you how great you are doing for the whole year - all the way until the performance review, when he will say “I’m sorry, you have underperformed for this year” with his kind smile.
你想要一个坦率的回答?
对于一个东欧人来说，美国人大致可以分为两类:文明的伪君子和更坦率、更直截了当的、不文明的人。当然，这只是一个粗略的简化。
1.文明的伪君子
这是一种典型的思想自由的美国人，你会在蓝州（支持民主党）的大城市里找到。我和这些人有很多互动。这些人很有教养，也很守规矩。他彬彬有礼，面带微笑，按照东欧人的标准，他通常是个伪君子。
这些人永远不会和你坦诚地谈论任何个人问题——无论是你的还是他的。如果你说了或做了不合适的事情，他会举报你，并在第二天依然对你微笑。如果他是你的同事，他会轻松自在地在背后捅你一刀，没有问题。
如果你有这样一个经理，他会微笑着告诉你这一整年你都做得很好，直到绩效评估，他会带着善意的微笑说“对不起，你今年的表现不佳”。
You want a frank answer?
For an Eastern European, Americans roughly fall into two categories: civilized hypocrites, or more frank and straightforward less-civilized folks. Of course, this is a gross simplification.
Civilized hypocritesThis is a typical liberal-minded American you will find in a big, blue city. I interacted a lot with these people.
This person is quite educated, and pretty much well-behaved. He is polite, smiling, and, usually quite hypocrite by Eastern European standards.
This person will never have a frank conversation with you about any personal issues - yours or his. He will report you if you said or did something inappropriate, and smile to you the next day. If you have him as a co-worker, he will easily and comfortable back-stab you, no problem. If you have such a person as a manager, he will be smiling and telling you how great you are doing for the whole year - all the way until the performance review, when he will say “I’m sorry, you have underperformed for this year” with his kind smile.
你想要一个坦率的回答?
对于一个东欧人来说，美国人大致可以分为两类:文明的伪君子和更坦率、更直截了当的、不文明的人。当然，这只是一个粗略的简化。
1.文明的伪君子
这是一种典型的思想自由的美国人，你会在蓝州（支持民主党）的大城市里找到。我和这些人有很多互动。这些人很有教养，也很守规矩。他彬彬有礼，面带微笑，按照东欧人的标准，他通常是个伪君子。
这些人永远不会和你坦诚地谈论任何个人问题——无论是你的还是他的。如果你说了或做了不合适的事情，他会举报你，并在第二天依然对你微笑。如果他是你的同事，他会轻松自在地在背后捅你一刀，没有问题。
如果你有这样一个经理，他会微笑着告诉你这一整年你都做得很好，直到绩效评估，他会带着善意的微笑说“对不起，你今年的表现不佳”。
Hypocrisy of some of these people can reach an ultimate height when they themselves will try to think nice. Not try to be honest to themselves - but do all their best to think right in in almost Orwellian fashion. You have.. egh… protesters burning your city? Yeah, because they are crimi.. OMG, no, because they were oppressed! We have our school education going down to the sink? Yeah, we need to spend less money on bullshit and concentrate on teach… Oh no, our schools are great, we just need more money to spend on renovating that cafeteria and hire a sport coach - our kids deserve the best!
Again, after some interaction with such a person you notice he/she not just trying to say things right - but to think right. And if facts contradict this nice, politically correct and socially acceptable point of view - too bad for the facts. Such a person will tell you “Oh, Alex! How you can say these things! Oh!”, smile and quickly move to a more neutral topic.
这些人中某些人的虚伪可以达到极致，以至于他们自己也会试图觉得自己很好。不要试图对自己诚实——而是尽他们最大的努力以几乎是奥威尔式的方式正确地思考。
你有抗议者烧毁了你们的城市?是的，因为他们是罪……噢天啊，不，因为他们被压迫了！
我们的学校教育每况愈下?是的，我们应该少花些钱在扯淡上，集中精力教学……哦不，我们的学校很棒，我们只是需要更多的钱来装修餐厅，并请一个运动教练——我们的孩子应该得到最好的!
在和这样的人交流之后，你会发现他/她不仅想要正确地说话，而且想要正确地思考。如果事实与这种美好的、政治正确的、社会可接受的观点相矛盾，那就太糟糕了。这样的人会告诉你“噢，亚历克斯，你怎么能这么说！噢！然后迅速转移到一个更中性的话题。
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Again, after some interaction with such a person you notice he/she not just trying to say things right - but to think right. And if facts contradict this nice, politically correct and socially acceptable point of view - too bad for the facts. Such a person will tell you “Oh, Alex! How you can say these things! Oh!”, smile and quickly move to a more neutral topic.
这些人中某些人的虚伪可以达到极致，以至于他们自己也会试图觉得自己很好。不要试图对自己诚实——而是尽他们最大的努力以几乎是奥威尔式的方式正确地思考。
你有抗议者烧毁了你们的城市?是的，因为他们是罪……噢天啊，不，因为他们被压迫了！
我们的学校教育每况愈下?是的，我们应该少花些钱在扯淡上，集中精力教学……哦不，我们的学校很棒，我们只是需要更多的钱来装修餐厅，并请一个运动教练——我们的孩子应该得到最好的!
在和这样的人交流之后，你会发现他/她不仅想要正确地说话，而且想要正确地思考。如果事实与这种美好的、政治正确的、社会可接受的观点相矛盾，那就太糟糕了。这样的人会告诉你“噢，亚历克斯，你怎么能这么说！噢！然后迅速转移到一个更中性的话题。
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Honest, a-bit-less-civilized folks
These are mostly working class people. Very often these are rural folks, with whom I usually interact during my fishing or hunting trips. Compared to #1, they may seem less civilized because of their simpler manners and simpler life. Although you shortly discover they they are usually surprisingly knowledgeable, and you definitely can’t call them “stupid”.
They may not look great, and they may not say nice things. But they are way more frank. They have their own set of ideas that are very foreign to me - being highly religious, reject the idea of universal medical care, severely restricting abortions, and so on. I do not consider these ideas to be a sign of being civilized/uncivilized - that can be a different view at life; our opinions regarding other issues such as personal freedoms, self-resilience, or gun control, align quite well.
But as long as you behave with respect towards these people, they usually will be respectful towards you. And, most importantly, they tend to enforce their personal views on me far less than liberal people.
2.不文明的人
这些人大部分是工人阶级。这些人通常都是农村人，我经常在钓鱼或打猎的时候和他们交流。与第一类人相比，他们可能看起来不那么文明，因为他们的礼仪和生活更简单。虽然你很快就会发现，他们的知识水平通常令人惊讶，但你绝对不能说他们“愚蠢”。
他们可能看起来不够光鲜，他们可能不会说好话，但他们更坦诚。他们有自己的一套想法，这对我来说是非常陌生的——高度的宗教信仰，拒绝全民医疗保健的想法，严格限制堕胎等等。我不认为这些想法是文明/不文明的标志，那可能只是一种不同的人生观。不过我们在个人自由、自我调整或枪支管制等其他问题上的观点相当一致。
但只要你表现得尊重这些人，他们通常也会尊重你。而且最重要的是，他们把自己的个人观点强加给我的意愿，远不如自由派人士来的强烈。
These are mostly working class people. Very often these are rural folks, with whom I usually interact during my fishing or hunting trips. Compared to #1, they may seem less civilized because of their simpler manners and simpler life. Although you shortly discover they they are usually surprisingly knowledgeable, and you definitely can’t call them “stupid”.
They may not look great, and they may not say nice things. But they are way more frank. They have their own set of ideas that are very foreign to me - being highly religious, reject the idea of universal medical care, severely restricting abortions, and so on. I do not consider these ideas to be a sign of being civilized/uncivilized - that can be a different view at life; our opinions regarding other issues such as personal freedoms, self-resilience, or gun control, align quite well.
But as long as you behave with respect towards these people, they usually will be respectful towards you. And, most importantly, they tend to enforce their personal views on me far less than liberal people.
2.不文明的人
这些人大部分是工人阶级。这些人通常都是农村人，我经常在钓鱼或打猎的时候和他们交流。与第一类人相比，他们可能看起来不那么文明，因为他们的礼仪和生活更简单。虽然你很快就会发现，他们的知识水平通常令人惊讶，但你绝对不能说他们“愚蠢”。
他们可能看起来不够光鲜，他们可能不会说好话，但他们更坦诚。他们有自己的一套想法，这对我来说是非常陌生的——高度的宗教信仰，拒绝全民医疗保健的想法，严格限制堕胎等等。我不认为这些想法是文明/不文明的标志，那可能只是一种不同的人生观。不过我们在个人自由、自我调整或枪支管制等其他问题上的观点相当一致。
但只要你表现得尊重这些人，他们通常也会尊重你。而且最重要的是，他们把自己的个人观点强加给我的意愿，远不如自由派人士来的强烈。
If you ask me, I feel way more comfortable with category #2. May be because I do not live among these people? Or may be because despite all our differences, their mentality is way closer to my Eastern European background? These people may be rude with you, but at least they are honest and not back-stabbing.
Sorry if my answer makes you upset.
如果你问我，我觉得第2类人更舒服。也许是因为我不在这些人中间生活?或者是因为尽管我们有很多不同，但他们的心态更接近我的东欧背景?
这些人可能对你很粗鲁，但至少他们很诚实，不会暗箭伤人。抱歉我的回答让你不高兴了。
Sorry if my answer makes you upset.
如果你问我，我觉得第2类人更舒服。也许是因为我不在这些人中间生活?或者是因为尽管我们有很多不同，但他们的心态更接近我的东欧背景?
这些人可能对你很粗鲁，但至少他们很诚实，不会暗箭伤人。抱歉我的回答让你不高兴了。
Christian Olof Emanuel Pavón
I do at least and i am a european. There are many contradictions in USA and hypocrisy is widely spread. If we start with the uncivilized part well many parts of the US despice education. In many american highschools the intelligent kids are bullied and called nerds and bookworms. This is very uncommon in sweden in high school for example.
If you see an american for example order a large great steak like for example a Kobe-steak, the first thing he/she does is pouring enormous amounts of ketchup on it, destroying it´s flavours and ingrediences by making everything taste like ketchup… Also it is not uncommon that they drink wine out of plastic cups, this is another thing that only alchoholic europeans use to do.
There are many things that i can bring up here so now i will start on the hypocrisy side: US is very adament to point out that they are a “Christian nation under God.”But what does Christianity have to do with war, rape, plunder and greed? Nothing. Yet these things have been practiced by the US for several decades.
至少我会认为（美国人虚伪和不文明），而我是欧洲人。美国有很多矛盾，伪善盛行。
从不文明开始说起，美国很多地方都鄙视教育。在许多美国高中，聪明的孩子被欺负，被称为书呆子和书虫。这在瑞典的高中是很少见的。
例如，如果你看到一个美国人点了一大块牛排，比如神户牛排，他/她做的第一件事就是在上面倒大量的番茄酱，把所有东西都变成番茄酱的味道，破坏了它的味道和配料……他们也经常用塑料杯喝酒，这是另一件只有欧洲酗酒者才会做的事情。
有很多事情我可以在这里提出，所以现在我将开始谈论虚伪的一面:美国非常坚定地指出，他们是一个“上帝之下的基督教国家”。但基督教与战争、强奸、掠夺和贪婪有什么关系?没有。然而，美国几十年来一直在这样做。
I do at least and i am a european. There are many contradictions in USA and hypocrisy is widely spread. If we start with the uncivilized part well many parts of the US despice education. In many american highschools the intelligent kids are bullied and called nerds and bookworms. This is very uncommon in sweden in high school for example.
If you see an american for example order a large great steak like for example a Kobe-steak, the first thing he/she does is pouring enormous amounts of ketchup on it, destroying it´s flavours and ingrediences by making everything taste like ketchup… Also it is not uncommon that they drink wine out of plastic cups, this is another thing that only alchoholic europeans use to do.
There are many things that i can bring up here so now i will start on the hypocrisy side: US is very adament to point out that they are a “Christian nation under God.”But what does Christianity have to do with war, rape, plunder and greed? Nothing. Yet these things have been practiced by the US for several decades.
至少我会认为（美国人虚伪和不文明），而我是欧洲人。美国有很多矛盾，伪善盛行。
从不文明开始说起，美国很多地方都鄙视教育。在许多美国高中，聪明的孩子被欺负，被称为书呆子和书虫。这在瑞典的高中是很少见的。
例如，如果你看到一个美国人点了一大块牛排，比如神户牛排，他/她做的第一件事就是在上面倒大量的番茄酱，把所有东西都变成番茄酱的味道，破坏了它的味道和配料……他们也经常用塑料杯喝酒，这是另一件只有欧洲酗酒者才会做的事情。
有很多事情我可以在这里提出，所以现在我将开始谈论虚伪的一面:美国非常坚定地指出，他们是一个“上帝之下的基督教国家”。但基督教与战争、强奸、掠夺和贪婪有什么关系?没有。然而，美国几十年来一直在这样做。
Also the whole hysterical sex thing is rather weird. With that i mean two things of the totally opposite sides. One side hates the idea of sex before marriage and one side wants everything to be about sex. For example US is the largest porn-producer in the world by a large margin.
The side i mention first have ceremonies like for example “The abstinence ring-ceremony” Where fathers take their daughters and make them promise to be completely abstinent before marriage which well… Is so weird and creepy in so many ways…
The other side however wants to teach small children about gay-sex and promotes complete tolerance for sexual immorality and the one night-stand-culture. Also the biggest promotor of sexual immorality is not the porn industry but hollywood in itself. By promoting everything from same sex-relationships to directly enforcing pedophilia like for example the Netflix-series cuties that is used in an attempt to normalize pedophilia.
此外，整个歇斯底里的性事是相当奇怪的。我指的是两种完全相反的东西。一方讨厌婚前性行为，另一方则希望一切都与性有关。例如，美国是世界上最大的色情制品生产国。
我提到的一方，首先有像“禁欲戒”这样的仪式——父亲带着他们的女儿，让她们在婚前承诺完全禁欲，这在很多方面都是很奇怪和令人毛骨悚然的。
而另一方则想要教育孩子们关于同性恋的性行为，并提倡对不道德的性行为和一夜情文化的完全容忍。此外，性不道德的最大推动者不是色情业，而是好莱坞本身。通过推广从同性关系到直接强迫恋童癖的一切，比如netflix系列的可爱节目，用来试图使恋童癖正常化。
The side i mention first have ceremonies like for example “The abstinence ring-ceremony” Where fathers take their daughters and make them promise to be completely abstinent before marriage which well… Is so weird and creepy in so many ways…
The other side however wants to teach small children about gay-sex and promotes complete tolerance for sexual immorality and the one night-stand-culture. Also the biggest promotor of sexual immorality is not the porn industry but hollywood in itself. By promoting everything from same sex-relationships to directly enforcing pedophilia like for example the Netflix-series cuties that is used in an attempt to normalize pedophilia.
此外，整个歇斯底里的性事是相当奇怪的。我指的是两种完全相反的东西。一方讨厌婚前性行为，另一方则希望一切都与性有关。例如，美国是世界上最大的色情制品生产国。
我提到的一方，首先有像“禁欲戒”这样的仪式——父亲带着他们的女儿，让她们在婚前承诺完全禁欲，这在很多方面都是很奇怪和令人毛骨悚然的。
而另一方则想要教育孩子们关于同性恋的性行为，并提倡对不道德的性行为和一夜情文化的完全容忍。此外，性不道德的最大推动者不是色情业，而是好莱坞本身。通过推广从同性关系到直接强迫恋童癖的一切，比如netflix系列的可爱节目，用来试图使恋童癖正常化。
Also the US says that they want to fight terrorism with everything they got and destroy all IS, Al Qauida´s etc of the world. Still they support the largest supporters of terrorism by large namely Saudi Arabia which have sponsred several terrorist groups and well it is not a coincindence that Usama Bin Ladin was from there…
Also let´s not forget their relationship with Israel. A nation that is said to be one unified nation under God supporting a nation which citizens often vehemently hates Christ.
美国还说，他们想用他们所拥有的一切来打击恐怖主义，摧毁世界上所有的ISIS、基地组织等。然而他们支持最大的恐怖主义支持者也就是沙特，沙特已经资助了数个恐怖组织，乌萨马·本·拉登来自那里并不是巧合。
我们也不要忘记他们与以色列的关系。一个据说在上帝庇佑下的统一的国家，它的公民却常常强烈地憎恨基督。
Also let´s not forget their relationship with Israel. A nation that is said to be one unified nation under God supporting a nation which citizens often vehemently hates Christ.
美国还说，他们想用他们所拥有的一切来打击恐怖主义，摧毁世界上所有的ISIS、基地组织等。然而他们支持最大的恐怖主义支持者也就是沙特，沙特已经资助了数个恐怖组织，乌萨马·本·拉登来自那里并不是巧合。
我们也不要忘记他们与以色列的关系。一个据说在上帝庇佑下的统一的国家，它的公民却常常强烈地憎恨基督。
When we are on the subject of religion US is supposed to be a culturally christian nation but not a nation where religion should have an impact on the administration on government or public affairs. But guess what, they do, big time!
In 2001–2002 the respected news paper Boston Globe investigated the catholic church and found out that their power is so large in the US that they were able to make obligatory documents regarding court cases disappear from the court records.
The US also promotes the idea of The self made man. The self made man is a person that paves his own way and become succesful without any priviliges. However in the US today it is extremely hard to become rich without either rich parents or good education and good education often is expensive because it is really to difficult get a scholarship in the US which in it´s turn makes it harder for poor people to ever get out of it´s poverty. 65% of poor people in the US dies poor which is another indicator that the self made-man idea is rather false.
当我们谈到宗教问题时，美国应该是一个文化上信奉基督教的国家，但宗教应该影响政府或公共事务。可你猜怎么着，他们真的这么做了!
2001年至2002年，著名的《波士顿环球报》对天主教会进行了调查，发现他们在美国的权力太大了，以至于他们能够使有关法庭案件的强制性文件从法庭记录中消失。
美国也提倡“白手起家”。白手起家是一个没有任何特权，自己铺路并取得成功的人。然而，在今天的美国，如果没有有钱的父母或良好的教育，想要成为富人是极其困难的，而良好的教育通常是昂贵的，因为在美国获得奖学金真的很难，这反过来又使穷人更难摆脱贫困，65%的美国穷人死于贫困。这说明“白手起家“的想法在这里是错误的。
In 2001–2002 the respected news paper Boston Globe investigated the catholic church and found out that their power is so large in the US that they were able to make obligatory documents regarding court cases disappear from the court records.
The US also promotes the idea of The self made man. The self made man is a person that paves his own way and become succesful without any priviliges. However in the US today it is extremely hard to become rich without either rich parents or good education and good education often is expensive because it is really to difficult get a scholarship in the US which in it´s turn makes it harder for poor people to ever get out of it´s poverty. 65% of poor people in the US dies poor which is another indicator that the self made-man idea is rather false.
当我们谈到宗教问题时，美国应该是一个文化上信奉基督教的国家，但宗教应该影响政府或公共事务。可你猜怎么着，他们真的这么做了!
2001年至2002年，著名的《波士顿环球报》对天主教会进行了调查，发现他们在美国的权力太大了，以至于他们能够使有关法庭案件的强制性文件从法庭记录中消失。
美国也提倡“白手起家”。白手起家是一个没有任何特权，自己铺路并取得成功的人。然而，在今天的美国，如果没有有钱的父母或良好的教育，想要成为富人是极其困难的，而良好的教育通常是昂贵的，因为在美国获得奖学金真的很难，这反过来又使穷人更难摆脱贫困，65%的美国穷人死于贫困。这说明“白手起家“的想法在这里是错误的。
Their prison-system is also rather weird. A lot of people are for example sentenced to life without parole which is according to me the worst sentence of them all. If you shoot a person to death when you were 23 and now are there when you are 60, is it reasonable if you have changed and become another person and mature which most people do? Not so i believe…
Last but not least their treatment of black people is really hypocritical. A christian nation under God that did not only thought it was okay to keep black people as slaves but still to this day discriminates against black people and the police kills the black people and use excessive violence and yes often gets away with it. Of course there exist good things with the US too. But there are many flaws that makes it hard for a decent human being to like that country.
他们的监狱系统也相当奇怪。例如，很多人被判处终身监禁，不得假释，这在我看来是最严重的判决。如果你在23岁时开枪打死了一个人，现在你60岁了，如果你改变了，变成了另一个人，像大多数人一样成熟，“终身监禁”是合理的吗?我不这么认为……
最后但并非最不重要的是，他们对待黑人的态度真的很虚伪。一个在上帝庇佑下的基督教国家，它不仅认为让黑人当奴隶是可以的，而且直到今天仍然歧视黑人，警察杀死黑人，使用过度的暴力，而且经常逃脱惩罚。
当然，美国也有好的一面。但是这个国家有很多缺点，让一个正派的人很难喜欢这个国家。
Last but not least their treatment of black people is really hypocritical. A christian nation under God that did not only thought it was okay to keep black people as slaves but still to this day discriminates against black people and the police kills the black people and use excessive violence and yes often gets away with it. Of course there exist good things with the US too. But there are many flaws that makes it hard for a decent human being to like that country.
他们的监狱系统也相当奇怪。例如，很多人被判处终身监禁，不得假释，这在我看来是最严重的判决。如果你在23岁时开枪打死了一个人，现在你60岁了，如果你改变了，变成了另一个人，像大多数人一样成熟，“终身监禁”是合理的吗?我不这么认为……
最后但并非最不重要的是，他们对待黑人的态度真的很虚伪。一个在上帝庇佑下的基督教国家，它不仅认为让黑人当奴隶是可以的，而且直到今天仍然歧视黑人，警察杀死黑人，使用过度的暴力，而且经常逃脱惩罚。
当然，美国也有好的一面。但是这个国家有很多缺点，让一个正派的人很难喜欢这个国家。
Pete Newell
If you actually monitor Americans at restaurants to determine what they order and observe how much condiments they use and use that as a reason to denigrate them, you have an unnatural obsession with them. Doubtful any Americans would feel the need to scrutinize you and your country to that level. However in your intense scrutiny of Americans you probably overlook some of your own country's flaws.
如果你真的在餐馆里监视美国人，以确定他们点什么，观察他们用了多少调味品，并以此作为诋毁他们的理由，那么你对他们有一种不自然的痴迷。恐怕没有哪个美国人会觉得有必要对你和你的国家进行那种程度的审查。
然而，在你对美国人的密切关注中，你可能忽略了自己国家的一些缺陷。
If you actually monitor Americans at restaurants to determine what they order and observe how much condiments they use and use that as a reason to denigrate them, you have an unnatural obsession with them. Doubtful any Americans would feel the need to scrutinize you and your country to that level. However in your intense scrutiny of Americans you probably overlook some of your own country's flaws.
如果你真的在餐馆里监视美国人，以确定他们点什么，观察他们用了多少调味品，并以此作为诋毁他们的理由，那么你对他们有一种不自然的痴迷。恐怕没有哪个美国人会觉得有必要对你和你的国家进行那种程度的审查。
然而，在你对美国人的密切关注中，你可能忽略了自己国家的一些缺陷。
Christian Olof Emanuel Pavón
Well if you don´t like my answer then maybe this topic is not for you. Me critizising the US does not mean that i think everythink is hunkadory in my own country…
如果你不喜欢我的回答，那么也许这个话题不适合你。我批评美国并不意味着我认为在我自己的国家所有的想法都是正确的……
Well if you don´t like my answer then maybe this topic is not for you. Me critizising the US does not mean that i think everythink is hunkadory in my own country…
如果你不喜欢我的回答，那么也许这个话题不适合你。我批评美国并不意味着我认为在我自己的国家所有的想法都是正确的……
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