为什么有些吃得很不健康的人仍然长寿（一）
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How do some people who eat very unhealthy and still manage to live a long life?
为什么有些吃得很不健康的人仍然长寿?
How do some people who eat very unhealthy and still manage to live a long life?
为什么有些吃得很不健康的人仍然长寿?
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Tony
I’ve wondered this myself.
Abuela came from a small farming town in Cuba (Mantanzas) to the US in the 70’s
Later in her life she was diagnosed with Crohn’s disease. She had a hard time eating most everything she’d eaten her whole life.
Instead she discovered mcdonald’s cheeseburgers somehow didn’t make her feel like garbage. She’d eat one like, every three days.
Otherwise it was cuban coffee and two packs of marlboro lights per day.
She passed about 4 years ago at the age of 92. Some sort of infection she got in the hospital.
She literally lived on cheeseburgers and coffee and cigarettes for over 10 years.
swear she’d have hit 100 if she just avoided the hospital.
我自己也很好奇。
70年代，祖母从古巴的一个农业小镇（Mantanzas）来到美国
后来，她被诊断患有克罗恩病。她这辈子吃过的所有东西,如今几乎都吃不下。
相反，她发现麦当劳的芝士汉堡并没有让她觉得其像垃圾。她每三天吃一次。
否则就是喝古巴咖啡和每天抽两包万宝路香烟。
她大约4年前因在医院感染了某种疾病去世，享年92岁。
她确实靠奶酪汉堡、咖啡和香烟生活了10多年。
我发誓如果她不去医院的话，她会活到100岁。
I’ve wondered this myself.
Abuela came from a small farming town in Cuba (Mantanzas) to the US in the 70’s
Later in her life she was diagnosed with Crohn’s disease. She had a hard time eating most everything she’d eaten her whole life.
Instead she discovered mcdonald’s cheeseburgers somehow didn’t make her feel like garbage. She’d eat one like, every three days.
Otherwise it was cuban coffee and two packs of marlboro lights per day.
She passed about 4 years ago at the age of 92. Some sort of infection she got in the hospital.
She literally lived on cheeseburgers and coffee and cigarettes for over 10 years.
swear she’d have hit 100 if she just avoided the hospital.
我自己也很好奇。
70年代，祖母从古巴的一个农业小镇（Mantanzas）来到美国
后来，她被诊断患有克罗恩病。她这辈子吃过的所有东西,如今几乎都吃不下。
相反，她发现麦当劳的芝士汉堡并没有让她觉得其像垃圾。她每三天吃一次。
否则就是喝古巴咖啡和每天抽两包万宝路香烟。
她大约4年前因在医院感染了某种疾病去世，享年92岁。
她确实靠奶酪汉堡、咖啡和香烟生活了10多年。
我发誓如果她不去医院的话，她会活到100岁。
Mental Facts ·
I have no idea. My father's mother was the most unhealthy person, I have ever known.
What kept her alive was begone my understanding of what makes a human being live. As long as I knew her, this was her lifestyle. She smoked all day and night long. Ate sugary coffee cakes and coffee with pickles, as far as I knew. Never ate breakfast, lunch or dinner. She lived to be 97 and the only time I was her eat anything was during the summer. I was at my uncle's house and we had a BBQ. She ate almost nothing, but some red wine, bread and cheese with pickles. And cigarettes
I hope that I live that long. I don't smoke and eat very well. Probably won't last past 50
我不知道。我父亲的母亲是我所知道的最不健康的人。
是什么让她活着这一问题也让我渐渐明白了是什么使人活着。从我认识她开始，这就是她的生活方式。她整天整夜地抽烟。就我所知，我吃的是含糖的咖啡蛋糕和咖啡配咸菜。从不吃早餐、午餐或晚餐，她活到了97岁，我唯一一次帮她吃东西是在夏天。我当时在叔叔家，我们吃了一顿烧烤。她几乎什么都没吃，只吃了一些红酒、面包、奶酪和咸菜，还有香烟。
我希望我能活那么长。我不抽烟，吃得也不错。不过也可能不会超过50岁。
I have no idea. My father's mother was the most unhealthy person, I have ever known.
What kept her alive was begone my understanding of what makes a human being live. As long as I knew her, this was her lifestyle. She smoked all day and night long. Ate sugary coffee cakes and coffee with pickles, as far as I knew. Never ate breakfast, lunch or dinner. She lived to be 97 and the only time I was her eat anything was during the summer. I was at my uncle's house and we had a BBQ. She ate almost nothing, but some red wine, bread and cheese with pickles. And cigarettes
I hope that I live that long. I don't smoke and eat very well. Probably won't last past 50
我不知道。我父亲的母亲是我所知道的最不健康的人。
是什么让她活着这一问题也让我渐渐明白了是什么使人活着。从我认识她开始，这就是她的生活方式。她整天整夜地抽烟。就我所知，我吃的是含糖的咖啡蛋糕和咖啡配咸菜。从不吃早餐、午餐或晚餐，她活到了97岁，我唯一一次帮她吃东西是在夏天。我当时在叔叔家，我们吃了一顿烧烤。她几乎什么都没吃，只吃了一些红酒、面包、奶酪和咸菜，还有香烟。
我希望我能活那么长。我不抽烟，吃得也不错。不过也可能不会超过50岁。
Samarjeet
All of us know someone in our known-circle of people who usually eats unhealthy, still has more strength and fitness than us; despite we follow most of the healthy eating habits.
At first glance, it seems like a contradiction to what we are taught or the common sense of people. However, it is not!
How!!
Let me elaborate on that. The most probable reasoning is as follows:
1. They have very good genetics, immunity or healthier upbringing since childhood. Imagine if they follow all the good habits that we follow, how healthy and long their life will become.
2. Perhaps, we are not aware of their healthy eating routines. They are pretty aware of their unhealthy eating habits and manage it well in moderation.
3. What is healthy and unhealthy is also very subjective. Let’s bring on some clarity to that. One of the best definitions, and perhaps the closest to a formal definition of health came from the World Health Organization nearly 50 years ago: "Health is a complete state of physical, mental and social well-being, and not merely the absence of disease or infirmity."
4. What is the number of such people!! Logically they are less in number if we survey in case-to-case basis. Other than eating a lot many factors decide lifespan of a person. If we calculate the average age, we can understand and reach at the conclusion:
我们所有人都知道，在我们熟悉的圈子里，尽管我们遵循大多数健康的饮食习惯,有人吃得不健康，但仍然比我们更有力量和健康.
乍一看，这似乎与我们所受的教育或人们的常识相矛盾。然而，事实并非如此！
怎么说？
让我详细说明一下，最可能的推理如下：
1、他们有很好的基因、免疫力，或者从童年起就受到了更健康的教育。想象一下，如果他们遵循我们所遵循的所有好习惯，他们的生活将变得多么健康和长寿。
2、也许，我们不知道他们的健康饮食习惯。他们非常清楚自己不健康的饮食习惯，并适度地加以管理。
3、什么是健康和不健康也是非常主观的。让我们澄清一下，其中一个最好的定义，也许最接近于正式的健康定义，是近50年前世界卫生组织提出的：“健康是身体、心理和社会健康的完整状态，而不仅仅是没有疾病或虚弱。”
4、这样的人有多少！从逻辑上讲，如果我们以个案为基础进行调查，它们的数量会更少。除了吃很多以外，还有很多因素决定着一个人的寿命。如果我们计算平均年龄，我们可以理解并得出结论：
All of us know someone in our known-circle of people who usually eats unhealthy, still has more strength and fitness than us; despite we follow most of the healthy eating habits.
At first glance, it seems like a contradiction to what we are taught or the common sense of people. However, it is not!
How!!
Let me elaborate on that. The most probable reasoning is as follows:
1. They have very good genetics, immunity or healthier upbringing since childhood. Imagine if they follow all the good habits that we follow, how healthy and long their life will become.
2. Perhaps, we are not aware of their healthy eating routines. They are pretty aware of their unhealthy eating habits and manage it well in moderation.
3. What is healthy and unhealthy is also very subjective. Let’s bring on some clarity to that. One of the best definitions, and perhaps the closest to a formal definition of health came from the World Health Organization nearly 50 years ago: "Health is a complete state of physical, mental and social well-being, and not merely the absence of disease or infirmity."
4. What is the number of such people!! Logically they are less in number if we survey in case-to-case basis. Other than eating a lot many factors decide lifespan of a person. If we calculate the average age, we can understand and reach at the conclusion:
我们所有人都知道，在我们熟悉的圈子里，尽管我们遵循大多数健康的饮食习惯,有人吃得不健康，但仍然比我们更有力量和健康.
乍一看，这似乎与我们所受的教育或人们的常识相矛盾。然而，事实并非如此！
怎么说？
让我详细说明一下，最可能的推理如下：
1、他们有很好的基因、免疫力，或者从童年起就受到了更健康的教育。想象一下，如果他们遵循我们所遵循的所有好习惯，他们的生活将变得多么健康和长寿。
2、也许，我们不知道他们的健康饮食习惯。他们非常清楚自己不健康的饮食习惯，并适度地加以管理。
3、什么是健康和不健康也是非常主观的。让我们澄清一下，其中一个最好的定义，也许最接近于正式的健康定义，是近50年前世界卫生组织提出的：“健康是身体、心理和社会健康的完整状态，而不仅仅是没有疾病或虚弱。”
4、这样的人有多少！从逻辑上讲，如果我们以个案为基础进行调查，它们的数量会更少。除了吃很多以外，还有很多因素决定着一个人的寿命。如果我们计算平均年龄，我们可以理解并得出结论：
Average life span (People eating healthy > people eating unhealthy)
Some scientific findings:
Rhesus monkeys given a stricter, low calorie diet lived longer. Sherman is the oldest Rhesus monkey ever recorded, nearly 20 years older than the average lifespan for his species in captivity. As younger monkeys were developing diseases and dying, he seemed to be immune to ageing. Even into his 30s he would have been considered an old monkey, but he didn’t look or act like one-NIA and University of Wisconsin.
Calorie restriction may be one of the most promising avenues for improving health and how long it lasts in our lives- Study at NIA and the University of Wisconsin.
The secret to a long and healthy life? Eat less-BBC Future article.
Good luck.
平均寿命（吃得健康的人要大于吃得不健康的人）
一些科学发现：
给予更严格、低热量饮食的猕猴寿命更长。谢尔曼是有记录以来年龄最大的猕猴，比其圈养物种的平均寿命长近20年。由于年轻的猴子正在生病和死亡，他似乎对衰老免疫。即使到了30多岁，他也会被认为是一只老猴子，但他的外表和行为都不像一只老猴子——全国老年研究所和威斯康辛大学。
在全国老年研究所和威斯康星州大学进行的研究表明，限制卡路里摄入可能是改善健康和延长寿命最有希望的途径之一。
长寿健康的秘诀是什么？少吃—英国广播公司《未来》的文章。
祝你好运
Some scientific findings:
Rhesus monkeys given a stricter, low calorie diet lived longer. Sherman is the oldest Rhesus monkey ever recorded, nearly 20 years older than the average lifespan for his species in captivity. As younger monkeys were developing diseases and dying, he seemed to be immune to ageing. Even into his 30s he would have been considered an old monkey, but he didn’t look or act like one-NIA and University of Wisconsin.
Calorie restriction may be one of the most promising avenues for improving health and how long it lasts in our lives- Study at NIA and the University of Wisconsin.
The secret to a long and healthy life? Eat less-BBC Future article.
Good luck.
平均寿命（吃得健康的人要大于吃得不健康的人）
一些科学发现：
给予更严格、低热量饮食的猕猴寿命更长。谢尔曼是有记录以来年龄最大的猕猴，比其圈养物种的平均寿命长近20年。由于年轻的猴子正在生病和死亡，他似乎对衰老免疫。即使到了30多岁，他也会被认为是一只老猴子，但他的外表和行为都不像一只老猴子——全国老年研究所和威斯康辛大学。
在全国老年研究所和威斯康星州大学进行的研究表明，限制卡路里摄入可能是改善健康和延长寿命最有希望的途径之一。
长寿健康的秘诀是什么？少吃—英国广播公司《未来》的文章。
祝你好运
Timku San
A combination of factors come into play with a situation as you describe that would result in longevity being retained.
Moderation. Nothing is truly unhealthy unless it is in excess.
A calorie is a calorie no matter what source it is taken from. There’s no such thing as an empty calorie.
As long as proper levels of vitamins, and minerals are taken in daily, a burger, and fries, or a salad dish with all sorts of superfoods are fundamentally no different.
Genetics. A high metabolic rate, combined with the other 3 means that it is unlikely if at all, to have high cholesterol, fats, sugar concentrations, etc.
Do what’s right by your body. If you have a fast metabolism, and generally care well for vitamin and mineral intake, you’d be fine.
If your metabolism is slower, the salad would probably be better. Any excess energy will automatically be turned into cellulite stores in the body. .
Which leads to my starting point as a conclusion. A calorie is a calorie. No matter what source it is from, and moderation is key.
正如你所描述的，多种因素的结合会导致长寿。
适度：没有什么是真正不健康的，除非它是过量的。
卡路里就是卡路里，无论它什么来源。没有所谓的空卡路里这一说。
只要每天摄入适当水平的维生素和矿物质，一个汉堡、薯条或一道含有各种超级食物的沙拉根本就没有什么不同。
遗传学新陈代谢率高，再加上其他3种，意味着胆固醇、脂肪、糖浓度等不太可能高。
做你身体适合的事。如果你新陈代谢快，并且通常很注意维生素和矿物质的摄入，你会没事的。
如果你的新陈代谢较慢，沙拉可能会更好。任何多余的能量都会自动转化为体内的脂肪团。
这就引出了我的结论。卡路里就是卡路里。无论它来自何方，适度是关键。
A combination of factors come into play with a situation as you describe that would result in longevity being retained.
Moderation. Nothing is truly unhealthy unless it is in excess.
A calorie is a calorie no matter what source it is taken from. There’s no such thing as an empty calorie.
As long as proper levels of vitamins, and minerals are taken in daily, a burger, and fries, or a salad dish with all sorts of superfoods are fundamentally no different.
Genetics. A high metabolic rate, combined with the other 3 means that it is unlikely if at all, to have high cholesterol, fats, sugar concentrations, etc.
Do what’s right by your body. If you have a fast metabolism, and generally care well for vitamin and mineral intake, you’d be fine.
If your metabolism is slower, the salad would probably be better. Any excess energy will automatically be turned into cellulite stores in the body. .
Which leads to my starting point as a conclusion. A calorie is a calorie. No matter what source it is from, and moderation is key.
正如你所描述的，多种因素的结合会导致长寿。
适度：没有什么是真正不健康的，除非它是过量的。
卡路里就是卡路里，无论它什么来源。没有所谓的空卡路里这一说。
只要每天摄入适当水平的维生素和矿物质，一个汉堡、薯条或一道含有各种超级食物的沙拉根本就没有什么不同。
遗传学新陈代谢率高，再加上其他3种，意味着胆固醇、脂肪、糖浓度等不太可能高。
做你身体适合的事。如果你新陈代谢快，并且通常很注意维生素和矿物质的摄入，你会没事的。
如果你的新陈代谢较慢，沙拉可能会更好。任何多余的能量都会自动转化为体内的脂肪团。
这就引出了我的结论。卡路里就是卡路里。无论它来自何方，适度是关键。
David Chan
At the end of the day, luck matters.
There was a recent study in Nature that estimated that a majority of cancers resulted from bad luck sequences of random mutations.
Smoking causes lung cancer but only about 10% of smokers die from lung cancer. Non smokers get lung cancer too.
Adhering to a healthy lifestyle, watching or weight and exercising regularly will improve our quality of life and our odds of longer survival. But it doesn’t guarantee it. So it’s okay to not be OCD about it.
Medicine is humbling and we don’t know what we don’t know.
一天结束时，运气很重要。
《自然》杂志最近的一项研究估计，大多数癌症都是由随机突变的厄运序列引起的。
吸烟会导致肺癌，但只有约10%的吸烟者死于肺癌。不吸烟者也有患肺癌的。
坚持健康的生活方式，定期监测或减肥和锻炼，将提高我们的生活质量，提高我们的生存几率。但这并不能保证。所以没有强迫症也没关系。
医学是使人谦恭的，我们不知道我们不知道什么。
At the end of the day, luck matters.
There was a recent study in Nature that estimated that a majority of cancers resulted from bad luck sequences of random mutations.
Smoking causes lung cancer but only about 10% of smokers die from lung cancer. Non smokers get lung cancer too.
Adhering to a healthy lifestyle, watching or weight and exercising regularly will improve our quality of life and our odds of longer survival. But it doesn’t guarantee it. So it’s okay to not be OCD about it.
Medicine is humbling and we don’t know what we don’t know.
一天结束时，运气很重要。
《自然》杂志最近的一项研究估计，大多数癌症都是由随机突变的厄运序列引起的。
吸烟会导致肺癌，但只有约10%的吸烟者死于肺癌。不吸烟者也有患肺癌的。
坚持健康的生活方式，定期监测或减肥和锻炼，将提高我们的生活质量，提高我们的生存几率。但这并不能保证。所以没有强迫症也没关系。
医学是使人谦恭的，我们不知道我们不知道什么。
Dr Bob Van
Everyone's genetics are different. Some people are burdened with inherited diseases like ALS that manifest over time. Others are unable to process lactose, or sensitive to bee stings, etc, that others find to be no problem at all. We do not all get exactly the same result from identical choices. (Remember, life is not fair.)
We each inherited specific genetic flaws and strengths, these are then modified by environment as we grow and live our lives.
Some persons smoke tobacco but never develop lung cancer, others get lung cancer without ever using any tobacco or other smoked products.
Health and longevity related to lifestyle are highly individual. Diet is highly individual. The studies published relating to these subjects are generalized averages based on large groups.
As an example, studies show that wearing a seat belt and having air bags in your automobile will reduce the risk of injury in an accident. This does not mean that EVERYONE who wears a seat belt will be uninjured in accidents, nor that EVERYONE who fails to use them will suffer injury if involved in a car crash. The results are averages, each crash is individual. The study results remain accurate even if some injuries occur in those who are seat belted because the relative risk if belted is significantly reduced “on average”.
You base your life style decisions on an understanding of risk benefit every day. You could choose to never ride in a car, you could choose to drive a lot at high speeds. I have chosen to drive regularly and always wear my seat belt. We should each choose wisely.
Good luck, read and learn of the risks, then choose a path that reduces them for you while allowing a comfortable life.
每个人的基因都是不同的。有些人患有遗传性疾病，如渐冻症，会随着时间的推移而显现出来。另一些人则无法消化乳糖，或者对蜜蜂叮咬敏感，其他人认为这根本没有问题。我们并非都能从相同的选择中得到完全相同的结果。（记住，生活是不公平的。）
我们每个人都继承了特定的基因缺陷和优势，随着我们的成长和生活，这些都会被环境所改变。
有些人吸烟但从不患肺癌，其他人在没有使用任何烟草或其他吸烟产品的情况下患上肺癌。
与生活方式相关的健康和长寿是高度个性化的。饮食是高度个性化的。已发表的与这些主题相关的研究是基于大群体的一般平均值。
例如，研究表明，在汽车中系上安全带和装上安全气囊可以降低事故中受伤的风险。这并不意味着所有佩戴安全带的人在事故中都不会受伤，也不意味着所有未使用安全带的人均会在车祸中受伤。结果是平均值，每次碰撞都是单独的个例。研究结果仍然准确，即使有些受伤发生在系安全带的人身上，因为“平均而言”系安全带会显著降低相对风险。
你每天的生活方式决定都是基于对风险收益的理解。你可以选择从不开车，你可以选择经常高速驾驶。我选择定期开车，并且总是系安全带。我们每个人都应该明智地选择。
祝你好运，阅读并了解风险，然后选择一条既能减少风险又能让你过上舒适生活的道路。
Everyone's genetics are different. Some people are burdened with inherited diseases like ALS that manifest over time. Others are unable to process lactose, or sensitive to bee stings, etc, that others find to be no problem at all. We do not all get exactly the same result from identical choices. (Remember, life is not fair.)
We each inherited specific genetic flaws and strengths, these are then modified by environment as we grow and live our lives.
Some persons smoke tobacco but never develop lung cancer, others get lung cancer without ever using any tobacco or other smoked products.
Health and longevity related to lifestyle are highly individual. Diet is highly individual. The studies published relating to these subjects are generalized averages based on large groups.
As an example, studies show that wearing a seat belt and having air bags in your automobile will reduce the risk of injury in an accident. This does not mean that EVERYONE who wears a seat belt will be uninjured in accidents, nor that EVERYONE who fails to use them will suffer injury if involved in a car crash. The results are averages, each crash is individual. The study results remain accurate even if some injuries occur in those who are seat belted because the relative risk if belted is significantly reduced “on average”.
You base your life style decisions on an understanding of risk benefit every day. You could choose to never ride in a car, you could choose to drive a lot at high speeds. I have chosen to drive regularly and always wear my seat belt. We should each choose wisely.
Good luck, read and learn of the risks, then choose a path that reduces them for you while allowing a comfortable life.
每个人的基因都是不同的。有些人患有遗传性疾病，如渐冻症，会随着时间的推移而显现出来。另一些人则无法消化乳糖，或者对蜜蜂叮咬敏感，其他人认为这根本没有问题。我们并非都能从相同的选择中得到完全相同的结果。（记住，生活是不公平的。）
我们每个人都继承了特定的基因缺陷和优势，随着我们的成长和生活，这些都会被环境所改变。
有些人吸烟但从不患肺癌，其他人在没有使用任何烟草或其他吸烟产品的情况下患上肺癌。
与生活方式相关的健康和长寿是高度个性化的。饮食是高度个性化的。已发表的与这些主题相关的研究是基于大群体的一般平均值。
例如，研究表明，在汽车中系上安全带和装上安全气囊可以降低事故中受伤的风险。这并不意味着所有佩戴安全带的人在事故中都不会受伤，也不意味着所有未使用安全带的人均会在车祸中受伤。结果是平均值，每次碰撞都是单独的个例。研究结果仍然准确，即使有些受伤发生在系安全带的人身上，因为“平均而言”系安全带会显著降低相对风险。
你每天的生活方式决定都是基于对风险收益的理解。你可以选择从不开车，你可以选择经常高速驾驶。我选择定期开车，并且总是系安全带。我们每个人都应该明智地选择。
祝你好运，阅读并了解风险，然后选择一条既能减少风险又能让你过上舒适生活的道路。
Branimir Doliba?i?
No such thing. There is a genetics issue, though, but bad food would finish early for the specimen with even the best of genes resulting in a early cellular decay. Now, we have to define “healthy”. If you provide all the ingredients your body cannot make on it’s own and are required for living, your nutrition is adequate. Unhealthy food choices mean you do not provide all the essentials you need. One cannot live long without the vitamins and minerals. Or, one cannot live long and have chronic vitamin or mineral deficit. Health would be put to test eventually.
So eating healthy versus unhealthy only means - do you provide all you need or not?
How can you tell?
Well, consider this.
Nobody, no one escapes atherosclerosis. Fried fats, burned protein, lots of Maillard byproducts and smoking are just accelerators.
And, don’t forget to sleep well and exercise. Loose the stress too.
没有这样的事情。然而，这是一个遗传问题，即使是最好的基因，坏的食物也会使标本过早死亡，导致细胞早期腐烂。现在，我们必须定义“健康”。如果你提供了所有你的身体不能自己制造的和生活所需的成分，你的营养是充足的。不健康的食物选择意味着你不能提供所有你需要的必需品。没有维生素和矿物质，人就活不了多久。或者，一个人不能长寿，并且长期缺乏维生素或矿物质。健康最终会受到考验。
所以健康饮食与不健康饮食只意味着——你是否提供了你所需要的一切？
你怎么知道？
好吧，考虑一下这个。
没有人能逃脱动脉粥样硬化。油炸的脂肪，燃烧的蛋白质，大量的美拉德副产品和吸烟只是加速因素。
还有，别忘了睡好觉和锻炼，也要放松压力。
No such thing. There is a genetics issue, though, but bad food would finish early for the specimen with even the best of genes resulting in a early cellular decay. Now, we have to define “healthy”. If you provide all the ingredients your body cannot make on it’s own and are required for living, your nutrition is adequate. Unhealthy food choices mean you do not provide all the essentials you need. One cannot live long without the vitamins and minerals. Or, one cannot live long and have chronic vitamin or mineral deficit. Health would be put to test eventually.
So eating healthy versus unhealthy only means - do you provide all you need or not?
How can you tell?
Well, consider this.
Nobody, no one escapes atherosclerosis. Fried fats, burned protein, lots of Maillard byproducts and smoking are just accelerators.
And, don’t forget to sleep well and exercise. Loose the stress too.
没有这样的事情。然而，这是一个遗传问题，即使是最好的基因，坏的食物也会使标本过早死亡，导致细胞早期腐烂。现在，我们必须定义“健康”。如果你提供了所有你的身体不能自己制造的和生活所需的成分，你的营养是充足的。不健康的食物选择意味着你不能提供所有你需要的必需品。没有维生素和矿物质，人就活不了多久。或者，一个人不能长寿，并且长期缺乏维生素或矿物质。健康最终会受到考验。
所以健康饮食与不健康饮食只意味着——你是否提供了你所需要的一切？
你怎么知道？
好吧，考虑一下这个。
没有人能逃脱动脉粥样硬化。油炸的脂肪，燃烧的蛋白质，大量的美拉德副产品和吸烟只是加速因素。
还有，别忘了睡好觉和锻炼，也要放松压力。
Ron Richards
Genetics has a lot to do with it. But good genetics can take a person only so far. It’s a way of explaining why some people with unhealthy lifestyles outlive others who do. However, with two people equal in every way, genetics included, a person with good genetics will live longer with a healthy lifestyle than another person with good genetics that doesn’t have a healthy lifestyle. And that, unfortunately, is the way it is.
Some people can exercise, eat right, not drink, not smoke, and so on, and end up dying by the time they are 60 or 65. Others who don’t have a healthy lifestyle may live into their 80’s, when they could live into their 90’s if they had the same lifestyle as the person who died at 60 or 65.
基因与此有很大关系。但良好的基因只能让一个人走这么远。这是一种解释为什么有些生活方式不健康的人比那些生活方式不健康的人长寿的方式。然而，由于两个人在各方面都是平等的，包括基因在内，一个拥有良好遗传基因的人会比另一个拥有优良遗传基因但没有健康生活方式的人活得更长。不幸的是，事情就是这样。
有些人可以锻炼，吃得好，不喝酒，不抽烟，等等，到60岁或65岁时就会死亡。其他没有健康生活方式的人可能会活到80多岁，但是如果他们的生活方式与60或65岁去世的人相同的话，他们可以活到90多岁。
Genetics has a lot to do with it. But good genetics can take a person only so far. It’s a way of explaining why some people with unhealthy lifestyles outlive others who do. However, with two people equal in every way, genetics included, a person with good genetics will live longer with a healthy lifestyle than another person with good genetics that doesn’t have a healthy lifestyle. And that, unfortunately, is the way it is.
Some people can exercise, eat right, not drink, not smoke, and so on, and end up dying by the time they are 60 or 65. Others who don’t have a healthy lifestyle may live into their 80’s, when they could live into their 90’s if they had the same lifestyle as the person who died at 60 or 65.
基因与此有很大关系。但良好的基因只能让一个人走这么远。这是一种解释为什么有些生活方式不健康的人比那些生活方式不健康的人长寿的方式。然而，由于两个人在各方面都是平等的，包括基因在内，一个拥有良好遗传基因的人会比另一个拥有优良遗传基因但没有健康生活方式的人活得更长。不幸的是，事情就是这样。
有些人可以锻炼，吃得好，不喝酒，不抽烟，等等，到60岁或65岁时就会死亡。其他没有健康生活方式的人可能会活到80多岁，但是如果他们的生活方式与60或65岁去世的人相同的话，他们可以活到90多岁。
Ralph 'RAFA' Desveaux
My goal is a healthy life, lived at the highest quality possible. You cannot accomplish this by eating very unhealthy. You may live long, but your quality of life will be much less than it could be if you engaged in healthy eating and positive, healthy behaviours. Eat and live a healthy life. No guarantees you will live longer, but you will live better. And you will probably live longer. Pursue health as your goal, not a longer life, weight loss, aesthetics, etc. These things will come, but the overall goal should be health and the starting point to achieving this are healthy choices re health, diet and behaviours. We are surrounded by people who have made unhealthy choices and live long, but for these people, the quality of life is much less than those people who make healthy choices and live long. I choose the latter and will forgo putting poison into my body. PS. If you eat from the agro food supply, you are ingesting poison with every bite. Bottom line, the agro food industry has taken a lot of good & necessary things out of our food supply. The Agro Food Industry has also put a huge number of bad things into our food supply. Pesticides, chemicals, antibiotics, growth hormones, sugars, salt, chemical preservatives, etc. Our food supply is completely inundated with these poisons.
我的目标是健康的生活，尽可能高质量地生活。你不能通过不健康的饮食来实现这一点。你可能活得很长，但如果你吃得健康，行为积极健康，你的生活质量就会大大降低。吃得健康，过得健康。不能保证你会活得更长，但你会活的更好。你可能会活得更长。追求健康是你的目标，而不是延长寿命、减肥、美容等。这些都会到来，但总的目标应该是健康，实现这一目标的出发点是健康的选择，包括健康、饮食和行为。我们周围都是做出不健康选择并长寿的人，但对于这些人来说，生活质量远远低于做出健康选择并长命百岁的人。我选择后者，并将放弃向我的体内投毒。附言：如果你吃的是农产品，那么你每咬一口都会中毒。归根结底，农产品工业从我们的粮食供应中拿走了很多好的和必要的东西。农业食品工业也给我们的食品供应带来了大量的负面影响。杀虫剂、化学品、抗生素、生长激素、糖、盐、化学防腐剂等。我们的食物供应完全被这些毒物淹没。
My goal is a healthy life, lived at the highest quality possible. You cannot accomplish this by eating very unhealthy. You may live long, but your quality of life will be much less than it could be if you engaged in healthy eating and positive, healthy behaviours. Eat and live a healthy life. No guarantees you will live longer, but you will live better. And you will probably live longer. Pursue health as your goal, not a longer life, weight loss, aesthetics, etc. These things will come, but the overall goal should be health and the starting point to achieving this are healthy choices re health, diet and behaviours. We are surrounded by people who have made unhealthy choices and live long, but for these people, the quality of life is much less than those people who make healthy choices and live long. I choose the latter and will forgo putting poison into my body. PS. If you eat from the agro food supply, you are ingesting poison with every bite. Bottom line, the agro food industry has taken a lot of good & necessary things out of our food supply. The Agro Food Industry has also put a huge number of bad things into our food supply. Pesticides, chemicals, antibiotics, growth hormones, sugars, salt, chemical preservatives, etc. Our food supply is completely inundated with these poisons.
我的目标是健康的生活，尽可能高质量地生活。你不能通过不健康的饮食来实现这一点。你可能活得很长，但如果你吃得健康，行为积极健康，你的生活质量就会大大降低。吃得健康，过得健康。不能保证你会活得更长，但你会活的更好。你可能会活得更长。追求健康是你的目标，而不是延长寿命、减肥、美容等。这些都会到来，但总的目标应该是健康，实现这一目标的出发点是健康的选择，包括健康、饮食和行为。我们周围都是做出不健康选择并长寿的人，但对于这些人来说，生活质量远远低于做出健康选择并长命百岁的人。我选择后者，并将放弃向我的体内投毒。附言：如果你吃的是农产品，那么你每咬一口都会中毒。归根结底，农产品工业从我们的粮食供应中拿走了很多好的和必要的东西。农业食品工业也给我们的食品供应带来了大量的负面影响。杀虫剂、化学品、抗生素、生长激素、糖、盐、化学防腐剂等。我们的食物供应完全被这些毒物淹没。
Michael Dougan
Is Japanese longevity associated exclusively with diet and nutrition? It’s partly true, but not the whole picture.
Disclosure: I live in the farmlands of northeastern Japan, close to the ocean, I’m not native Japanese, I’m an American. My wife and I are in the food business. We relocated here in 2017. Though we’ve traveled back and forth between the U.S. and Japan for 20+ years, this is the beginning of our life here as permanent residents. I’m still adjusting to life in real Japan.
First, let’s debunk some popular myths about food consumption in Japan:
Japanese eat primarily fish, rice, soy, and vegetables, untainted by western-influenced processed foods, Japanese convenience foods, sugars, fats, and empty carbs. Japan enjoys an almost ideal diet.
Japanese are blessed with more natural eating habits, they’re robust, vibrant, less obese. Japanese live long, healthy lives, because of their superior diet. Japan suffers less from high blood pressure, diabetes, heart disease, etc.
Correct food choices, rooted in ancient food traditions, are the key to longevity.
日本人的长寿只与饮食和营养有关吗？这部分是真的，但不是全部。
披露：我住在日本东北部的农田里，靠近大海，我不是日本人，我是美国人。我和妻子从事食品行业。我们于2017年搬到这里。虽然我们在美国和日本之间来回旅行了20多年，但这是我们作为永久居民在这里生活的开始。我仍在适应真正的日本生活。
首先，让我们揭穿一些关于日本食品消费的流行神话：
日本人主要吃鱼、大米、大豆和蔬菜，不受西方加工食品、日本方便食品、糖、脂肪和空碳水化合物的影响。日本的饮食几乎是理想的。
日本人有着更自然的饮食习惯，他们身体健壮，活力四射，不那么肥胖。日本人健康长寿，因为他们的饮食优越。日本患高血压、糖尿病、心脏病等的人较少。
正确的食物选择，根植于古老的饮食传统，是长寿的关键。
Is Japanese longevity associated exclusively with diet and nutrition? It’s partly true, but not the whole picture.
Disclosure: I live in the farmlands of northeastern Japan, close to the ocean, I’m not native Japanese, I’m an American. My wife and I are in the food business. We relocated here in 2017. Though we’ve traveled back and forth between the U.S. and Japan for 20+ years, this is the beginning of our life here as permanent residents. I’m still adjusting to life in real Japan.
First, let’s debunk some popular myths about food consumption in Japan:
Japanese eat primarily fish, rice, soy, and vegetables, untainted by western-influenced processed foods, Japanese convenience foods, sugars, fats, and empty carbs. Japan enjoys an almost ideal diet.
Japanese are blessed with more natural eating habits, they’re robust, vibrant, less obese. Japanese live long, healthy lives, because of their superior diet. Japan suffers less from high blood pressure, diabetes, heart disease, etc.
Correct food choices, rooted in ancient food traditions, are the key to longevity.
日本人的长寿只与饮食和营养有关吗？这部分是真的，但不是全部。
披露：我住在日本东北部的农田里，靠近大海，我不是日本人，我是美国人。我和妻子从事食品行业。我们于2017年搬到这里。虽然我们在美国和日本之间来回旅行了20多年，但这是我们作为永久居民在这里生活的开始。我仍在适应真正的日本生活。
首先，让我们揭穿一些关于日本食品消费的流行神话：
日本人主要吃鱼、大米、大豆和蔬菜，不受西方加工食品、日本方便食品、糖、脂肪和空碳水化合物的影响。日本的饮食几乎是理想的。
日本人有着更自然的饮食习惯，他们身体健壮，活力四射，不那么肥胖。日本人健康长寿，因为他们的饮食优越。日本患高血压、糖尿病、心脏病等的人较少。
正确的食物选择，根植于古老的饮食传统，是长寿的关键。
Debunking.
Japan loves packaged processed foods, delicious junk foods, convenience foods like you can’t imagine. Japan has invested (no joke) billions of dollars perfecting the finest, most flavorful, most delicious junk food money can buy. The only reason Japanese astronauts haven’t planted a Japanese flag on the moon is because Japan’s R&D experts had a more important mission: perfecting the most flavorful convenience foods on earth. Do you want to talk about rice crackers? Japan has ten thousand kinds of rice crackers. Instant noodles? The world leader. Make no mistake, Japan loves processed foods. Disabuse yourself of this myth of “pure Japan”. Japan is the KING of processed foods.
Japanese people have heart attacks. Japanese people get diabetes. Japanese get liver disease. Japanese get stomach cancer. *POOF* Another myth, busted. Japan lives in the same modern world the rest of us do
Beneficial local eating habits, rooted in ancient food traditions, plays a role in longevity, but how important is that role? Is food the primary reason Japanese live longer? Let’s explore the positive side.
Promoting Japan’s diet.
Japanese eat primarily fish, rice, soy, and vegetables. This is true.
Japanese eat smaller portions. This is true.
Japan’s history is a story of native peoples living on isolated islands, surviving on root vegetables, grown in rich volcanic top soil (providing minerals, vitamin-rich produce, an abundance of micro-nutrients not so easily available in other regions) and soy, fresh fish, preserved fish, and fermented foods, an ideal human food. Japan was dependent on seafood and rice for thousands of years. Better yet, Japan loves its own food. How we eat, how we respect food and nourishment, is as important as what we eat.
暴露真相：
日本人喜欢包装加工食品，美味的垃圾食品，便利食品，日本已经投入了数十亿美元(不是开玩笑)来完善人们能买到的最好、最美味、最美味的垃圾食品。日本宇航员没有在月球上插上日本国旗的唯一原因是，日本的研发专家有一个更重要的使命：完善世界上最美味的便利食品。你想谈谈米饼吗?日本有一万种米饼。方便面吗?日本是世界领袖。毫无疑问，日本人喜欢加工食品。从“纯正日本”的神话中醒悟过来。日本是加工食品之王。
日本人有心脏病。日本人有糖尿病。日本人得肝病。日本人得胃癌。又一个流言，被终结了。日本和我们生活在同一个现代世界。
根植于古老饮食传统的有益的当地饮食习惯在长寿方面发挥着作用，但这种作用有多重要呢?食物是日本人长寿的主要原因吗?让我们来探索积极的一面。
促进日本的饮食。
日本人主要吃鱼、大米、大豆和蔬菜，这是真的。
日本人吃得更少，这是真的。
日本的历史是一个生活在与世隔绝的岛屿上的土著民族的故事，他们以块根蔬菜为生，生长在丰富的火山表层土壤中（提供矿物质、富含维生素的农产品、丰富的微量营养素，在其他地区很难获得），大豆、鲜鱼、腌制鱼和发酵食品是理想的人类食品。数千年来，日本一直依赖海鲜和大米。更好的是，日本喜欢自己的食物。我们如何吃，我们如何尊重食物和营养，与我们吃什么一样重要。
Japan loves packaged processed foods, delicious junk foods, convenience foods like you can’t imagine. Japan has invested (no joke) billions of dollars perfecting the finest, most flavorful, most delicious junk food money can buy. The only reason Japanese astronauts haven’t planted a Japanese flag on the moon is because Japan’s R&D experts had a more important mission: perfecting the most flavorful convenience foods on earth. Do you want to talk about rice crackers? Japan has ten thousand kinds of rice crackers. Instant noodles? The world leader. Make no mistake, Japan loves processed foods. Disabuse yourself of this myth of “pure Japan”. Japan is the KING of processed foods.
Japanese people have heart attacks. Japanese people get diabetes. Japanese get liver disease. Japanese get stomach cancer. *POOF* Another myth, busted. Japan lives in the same modern world the rest of us do
Beneficial local eating habits, rooted in ancient food traditions, plays a role in longevity, but how important is that role? Is food the primary reason Japanese live longer? Let’s explore the positive side.
Promoting Japan’s diet.
Japanese eat primarily fish, rice, soy, and vegetables. This is true.
Japanese eat smaller portions. This is true.
Japan’s history is a story of native peoples living on isolated islands, surviving on root vegetables, grown in rich volcanic top soil (providing minerals, vitamin-rich produce, an abundance of micro-nutrients not so easily available in other regions) and soy, fresh fish, preserved fish, and fermented foods, an ideal human food. Japan was dependent on seafood and rice for thousands of years. Better yet, Japan loves its own food. How we eat, how we respect food and nourishment, is as important as what we eat.
暴露真相：
日本人喜欢包装加工食品，美味的垃圾食品，便利食品，日本已经投入了数十亿美元(不是开玩笑)来完善人们能买到的最好、最美味、最美味的垃圾食品。日本宇航员没有在月球上插上日本国旗的唯一原因是，日本的研发专家有一个更重要的使命：完善世界上最美味的便利食品。你想谈谈米饼吗?日本有一万种米饼。方便面吗?日本是世界领袖。毫无疑问，日本人喜欢加工食品。从“纯正日本”的神话中醒悟过来。日本是加工食品之王。
日本人有心脏病。日本人有糖尿病。日本人得肝病。日本人得胃癌。又一个流言，被终结了。日本和我们生活在同一个现代世界。
根植于古老饮食传统的有益的当地饮食习惯在长寿方面发挥着作用，但这种作用有多重要呢?食物是日本人长寿的主要原因吗?让我们来探索积极的一面。
促进日本的饮食。
日本人主要吃鱼、大米、大豆和蔬菜，这是真的。
日本人吃得更少，这是真的。
日本的历史是一个生活在与世隔绝的岛屿上的土著民族的故事，他们以块根蔬菜为生，生长在丰富的火山表层土壤中（提供矿物质、富含维生素的农产品、丰富的微量营养素，在其他地区很难获得），大豆、鲜鱼、腌制鱼和发酵食品是理想的人类食品。数千年来，日本一直依赖海鲜和大米。更好的是，日本喜欢自己的食物。我们如何吃，我们如何尊重食物和营养，与我们吃什么一样重要。
Non-food health benefits in Japan.
Old people are valued. Seniority has privileges. Getting old in Japan is normal, natural, accepted. A meaningful life, connected to family and community. This is a key to longevity. Who cares what they eat? They could eat rice crackers and frozen convenience food for years, and still outlive all of us.
Walking, bicycling. As recently as last week, an 85-year-old woman whizzed past me on a bike. I’m middle-aged, and I can’t keep up with these badass white-haired biker bitches. Watch out, they’ll run you over. You want to see walking, biking, not driving? Come to rural Japan. In big cities, too! Walking, walking, walking, visiting neighbors, running to the train station. Want to get fat and old? Sit your ass in a car for decades, you think food matters? Being active, and engaged, valued, living a life with meaning, walking all the time, means more than ordinary fish and tofu.
Social harmony. Japan isn’t perfect, but it’s cohesive, averse to pointless conflict, orderly, mostly sane, easygoing, and tolerant. That doesn’t mean Japan doesn’t struggle with despair (high suicide rate) and other social problems. But it’s less murderous and crazy than many parts of the western world. Japan is a place you can live long, modestly, with dignity, and outlast your peers in less civilized parts of the world.
日本的非食品健康福利。
老年人受到重视。年老者享有特权。在日本变老是正常的，自然的，可以接受的。有意义的生活，与家庭和社区相连。这是长寿的关键。谁在乎他们吃什么？他们可以多年吃米糕和冷冻便利食品，但仍然比我们所有人活得长。
步行、骑自行车。就在上周，一位85岁的女士骑着自行车从我身边飞驰而过。我是中年人，我也跟不上这些白头发骑摩托的贱人。当心，他们会把你撞倒的。你想看步行、骑自行车，而不是开车？来日本农村吧。在大城市也一样！步行，走动，拜访邻居，跑向火车站。想变胖变老吗？坐在车里几十年，你觉得食物很重要吗？积极、投入、有价值、有意义的生活、无时无刻不在行走，比普通的鱼和豆腐更有意义。
社会和谐。日本并不完美，但它有凝聚力，反对毫无意义的冲突，有秩序，基本上理智，随和，宽容。这并不意味着日本不会与绝望（高自杀率）和其他社会问题作斗争。但它不像西方世界的许多地方那样凶残和疯狂。日本是一个你可以长久、谦虚、有尊严地生活的地方，比世界上不太文明的地区的同龄人更长寿。
Old people are valued. Seniority has privileges. Getting old in Japan is normal, natural, accepted. A meaningful life, connected to family and community. This is a key to longevity. Who cares what they eat? They could eat rice crackers and frozen convenience food for years, and still outlive all of us.
Walking, bicycling. As recently as last week, an 85-year-old woman whizzed past me on a bike. I’m middle-aged, and I can’t keep up with these badass white-haired biker bitches. Watch out, they’ll run you over. You want to see walking, biking, not driving? Come to rural Japan. In big cities, too! Walking, walking, walking, visiting neighbors, running to the train station. Want to get fat and old? Sit your ass in a car for decades, you think food matters? Being active, and engaged, valued, living a life with meaning, walking all the time, means more than ordinary fish and tofu.
Social harmony. Japan isn’t perfect, but it’s cohesive, averse to pointless conflict, orderly, mostly sane, easygoing, and tolerant. That doesn’t mean Japan doesn’t struggle with despair (high suicide rate) and other social problems. But it’s less murderous and crazy than many parts of the western world. Japan is a place you can live long, modestly, with dignity, and outlast your peers in less civilized parts of the world.
日本的非食品健康福利。
老年人受到重视。年老者享有特权。在日本变老是正常的，自然的，可以接受的。有意义的生活，与家庭和社区相连。这是长寿的关键。谁在乎他们吃什么？他们可以多年吃米糕和冷冻便利食品，但仍然比我们所有人活得长。
步行、骑自行车。就在上周，一位85岁的女士骑着自行车从我身边飞驰而过。我是中年人，我也跟不上这些白头发骑摩托的贱人。当心，他们会把你撞倒的。你想看步行、骑自行车，而不是开车？来日本农村吧。在大城市也一样！步行，走动，拜访邻居，跑向火车站。想变胖变老吗？坐在车里几十年，你觉得食物很重要吗？积极、投入、有价值、有意义的生活、无时无刻不在行走，比普通的鱼和豆腐更有意义。
社会和谐。日本并不完美，但它有凝聚力，反对毫无意义的冲突，有秩序，基本上理智，随和，宽容。这并不意味着日本不会与绝望（高自杀率）和其他社会问题作斗争。但它不像西方世界的许多地方那样凶残和疯狂。日本是一个你可以长久、谦虚、有尊严地生活的地方，比世界上不太文明的地区的同龄人更长寿。
Chris Jude
The real story behind these long lived , yet unhealthy people is lucky more specifically, the luck of winning genetic lottery.
Oftentimes, people who live to be very old simple have longevity encoded within their Genes…
Their good Gene works to counteract the effect of bad behavior and bad habit .
这些长寿但不健康的人背后的真实故事是幸运的，更确切地说，是幸运地赢得了基因彩票。
通常情况下，那些活到很老的人只是在他们拥有长寿基因。
他们的好基因可以抵消不良行为和坏习惯的影响。
The real story behind these long lived , yet unhealthy people is lucky more specifically, the luck of winning genetic lottery.
Oftentimes, people who live to be very old simple have longevity encoded within their Genes…
Their good Gene works to counteract the effect of bad behavior and bad habit .
这些长寿但不健康的人背后的真实故事是幸运的，更确切地说，是幸运地赢得了基因彩票。
通常情况下，那些活到很老的人只是在他们拥有长寿基因。
他们的好基因可以抵消不良行为和坏习惯的影响。
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