美国人对欧洲都有哪些愚蠢的误解？（一）
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What are some silly misconceptions Americans have about Europe?
美国人对欧洲都有哪些愚蠢的误解？
What are some silly misconceptions Americans have about Europe?
美国人对欧洲都有哪些愚蠢的误解？
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Alice Baker
Okay, I’ll bite.
It’s probably more accurate to call what I’m about to describe as “sextive blindness” rather than a silly misconception, but many Americans tend to equate “Europe” with “western European countries that speak either Germanic languages, Romance languages, or Finnish.”
An American who tells you that they’ve visited “almost every country in Europe” has probably visited most of the countries marked in green on the map below. But they’re remarkably willing to give themselves credit for visiting “almost every country in Europe” even though they’ve never set foot on the Balkan Peninsula or in any country where the Cyrillic alphabet is in widespread use.
好吧，我来咬钩。
可能更准确的说法是我将要描述的“选择性失明”，而不是愚蠢的误解。许多美国人倾向于将“欧洲”等同于“讲日耳曼语、罗曼语或芬兰语的西欧国家”。 如果一个美国人告诉你他去过“几乎所有欧洲国家”，那么他可能去过下图中绿色标记的大部分国家。尽管他们从未踏足巴尔干半岛或任何广泛使用西里尔字母的国家，但他们却非常愿意称赞自己“几乎走遍了欧洲的每一个国家”。
Okay, I’ll bite.
It’s probably more accurate to call what I’m about to describe as “sextive blindness” rather than a silly misconception, but many Americans tend to equate “Europe” with “western European countries that speak either Germanic languages, Romance languages, or Finnish.”
An American who tells you that they’ve visited “almost every country in Europe” has probably visited most of the countries marked in green on the map below. But they’re remarkably willing to give themselves credit for visiting “almost every country in Europe” even though they’ve never set foot on the Balkan Peninsula or in any country where the Cyrillic alphabet is in widespread use.
好吧，我来咬钩。
可能更准确的说法是我将要描述的“选择性失明”，而不是愚蠢的误解。许多美国人倾向于将“欧洲”等同于“讲日耳曼语、罗曼语或芬兰语的西欧国家”。 如果一个美国人告诉你他去过“几乎所有欧洲国家”，那么他可能去过下图中绿色标记的大部分国家。尽管他们从未踏足巴尔干半岛或任何广泛使用西里尔字母的国家，但他们却非常愿意称赞自己“几乎走遍了欧洲的每一个国家”。
Jens Schuetz
What, even Greece is not quite Europe? That's where it all started!
什么，连希腊都不算很欧洲吗？这可是欧洲的起源！
What, even Greece is not quite Europe? That's where it all started!
什么，连希腊都不算很欧洲吗？这可是欧洲的起源！
Laurence Greenwood
And yet when you ask an average Greek, he will tell you that he's not European, but Greek. When I lived there, one man spoke a sentence I remember to this day. “There is Europe, there is the Islamic world, there is the Slavic world, and then there is Greece.”
然而，当你问一个普通的希腊人，他会告诉你他不是欧洲人，而是希腊人。我住在那里的时候，有一个人说了一句话，我至今还记得。“有欧洲，有伊斯兰世界，有斯拉夫世界，还有希腊。”
And yet when you ask an average Greek, he will tell you that he's not European, but Greek. When I lived there, one man spoke a sentence I remember to this day. “There is Europe, there is the Islamic world, there is the Slavic world, and then there is Greece.”
然而，当你问一个普通的希腊人，他会告诉你他不是欧洲人，而是希腊人。我住在那里的时候，有一个人说了一句话，我至今还记得。“有欧洲，有伊斯兰世界，有斯拉夫世界，还有希腊。”
Terence Howard
My country is much the same to be honest. Europe is them, we are British. Even though Britain is in Europe, you often hear people say “I’m going to Europe on holiday”. I think general rule of thumb, the bigger the history of the country, the more likely they are to identify with their country rather a whole continent.
说实话，我的国家也差不多。欧洲是他们，我们是英国人。即使英国在欧洲，你也经常听到人们说“我要去欧洲度假”。 我认为一般的经验法则是，一个国家的历史越悠久，他们就越有可能认同自己的国家，而不是整个大陆。
My country is much the same to be honest. Europe is them, we are British. Even though Britain is in Europe, you often hear people say “I’m going to Europe on holiday”. I think general rule of thumb, the bigger the history of the country, the more likely they are to identify with their country rather a whole continent.
说实话，我的国家也差不多。欧洲是他们，我们是英国人。即使英国在欧洲，你也经常听到人们说“我要去欧洲度假”。 我认为一般的经验法则是，一个国家的历史越悠久，他们就越有可能认同自己的国家，而不是整个大陆。
Scott Longwell
I don't think it's the long history. France also has a long history but they see themselves as part of Europe.
I think the issue is that both the UK and Greece feel that they stand apart from the European club.
我不认为这与悠久的历史有关。法国也有悠久的历史，但他们认为自己是欧洲的一部分。
我认为问题在于，英国和希腊都觉得自己与欧洲俱乐部格格不入。
I don't think it's the long history. France also has a long history but they see themselves as part of Europe.
I think the issue is that both the UK and Greece feel that they stand apart from the European club.
我不认为这与悠久的历史有关。法国也有悠久的历史，但他们认为自己是欧洲的一部分。
我认为问题在于，英国和希腊都觉得自己与欧洲俱乐部格格不入。
Laurence Greenwood
Indeed, you are completely correct. One factor that played into this, I think, is the rapid way in which the E.U. transformed from a purely economic alliance to a political entity with one coin, that mandates policies onto its territories. It wasn't really organic transformation, and the people had little say in the matter. And that is only the past 40 years or so. Most E.U. states have histories going back to ancient times.
的确，你完全正确。我认为，其中一个原因是欧盟从一个纯粹的经济联盟迅速转变为一个政治实体，在其领土上强制执行政策。这并不是真正的有机转型，人们在这件事上几乎没有发言权。这只是过去40年左右的情况。
大多数欧盟国家的历史可以追溯到古代。
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Indeed, you are completely correct. One factor that played into this, I think, is the rapid way in which the E.U. transformed from a purely economic alliance to a political entity with one coin, that mandates policies onto its territories. It wasn't really organic transformation, and the people had little say in the matter. And that is only the past 40 years or so. Most E.U. states have histories going back to ancient times.
的确，你完全正确。我认为，其中一个原因是欧盟从一个纯粹的经济联盟迅速转变为一个政治实体，在其领土上强制执行政策。这并不是真正的有机转型，人们在这件事上几乎没有发言权。这只是过去40年左右的情况。
大多数欧盟国家的历史可以追溯到古代。
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Sofia N
It depends. Greeks tend to change how they identify based on where they are.
If they’re outside of Europe, they identify as Europeans. If they’re in Europe, they don’t identify as Europeans but as Greek. If they’re in Greece then they identify as Athenians, Peloponnesians, Cretan, etc, depending where they or their family is from.
We like to feel special, you see.
视情况而定。希腊人倾向于根据他们所处的位置改变他们的身份。
如果他们不在欧洲，他们认为自己是欧洲人。如果他们生活在欧洲，他们不认为自己是欧洲人，而是希腊人。如果他们在希腊，那么他们认为自己是雅典人、伯罗奔尼撒人、克里特岛人等等，这取决于他们或他们的家庭来自哪里。
我们喜欢特立独行，你瞧。
It depends. Greeks tend to change how they identify based on where they are.
If they’re outside of Europe, they identify as Europeans. If they’re in Europe, they don’t identify as Europeans but as Greek. If they’re in Greece then they identify as Athenians, Peloponnesians, Cretan, etc, depending where they or their family is from.
We like to feel special, you see.
视情况而定。希腊人倾向于根据他们所处的位置改变他们的身份。
如果他们不在欧洲，他们认为自己是欧洲人。如果他们生活在欧洲，他们不认为自己是欧洲人，而是希腊人。如果他们在希腊，那么他们认为自己是雅典人、伯罗奔尼撒人、克里特岛人等等，这取决于他们或他们的家庭来自哪里。
我们喜欢特立独行，你瞧。
Eldritch
Sounds about right. For myself the yellow in the map instead equates to “far off europe”. I know better but still mentally forget in everyday conversations. I think it comes down that Americans mostly hear about Western European nations in media and news. Our popular news sources are terrible.
听起来差不多。对我来说，地图上的黄色反而等同于“遥远的欧洲”。
我更了解，但在日常对话中，我还是会在精神上忘记这些事实。我认为美国人主要是在媒体和新闻中听到西欧国家。我们流行的新闻来源很糟糕。
Sounds about right. For myself the yellow in the map instead equates to “far off europe”. I know better but still mentally forget in everyday conversations. I think it comes down that Americans mostly hear about Western European nations in media and news. Our popular news sources are terrible.
听起来差不多。对我来说，地图上的黄色反而等同于“遥远的欧洲”。
我更了解，但在日常对话中，我还是会在精神上忘记这些事实。我认为美国人主要是在媒体和新闻中听到西欧国家。我们流行的新闻来源很糟糕。
Murali Tumahai
Frankly, there are a lot of Western Europeans who think the same way.
坦率地说，很多西欧人也有同样的想法。
Frankly, there are a lot of Western Europeans who think the same way.
坦率地说，很多西欧人也有同样的想法。
Slack-Man
In all fairness when I lived in Germany, it was still West Germany and the yellow portion was hard to visit.
Since then I’ve only been to Sweden (on business trips)
Asia was no better. Just the Philippines, Japan and Korea.
平心而论，我住在德国的时候，德国还是西德，黄色的部分很难拜访。
从那以后我只去过瑞典(出差)
亚洲也好不到哪里去。只有菲律宾、日本和韩国。
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In all fairness when I lived in Germany, it was still West Germany and the yellow portion was hard to visit.
Since then I’ve only been to Sweden (on business trips)
Asia was no better. Just the Philippines, Japan and Korea.
平心而论，我住在德国的时候，德国还是西德，黄色的部分很难拜访。
从那以后我只去过瑞典(出差)
亚洲也好不到哪里去。只有菲律宾、日本和韩国。
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Dee Frank
Agreed. You have to take into account that before the fall of the Soviet unx in the early 1990’s it was VERY DIFFICULT to travel to “not quite Europe” under most circumstances.
同意。你必须考虑到，在20世纪90年代初苏联解体之前，在大多数情况下，去“不太欧洲”的地方旅行是非常困难的。
Agreed. You have to take into account that before the fall of the Soviet unx in the early 1990’s it was VERY DIFFICULT to travel to “not quite Europe” under most circumstances.
同意。你必须考虑到，在20世纪90年代初苏联解体之前，在大多数情况下，去“不太欧洲”的地方旅行是非常困难的。
Tristan Reubard
You could easily without problems visit Yugoslavia.
你可以很容易地、毫无障碍地访问南斯拉夫。
You could easily without problems visit Yugoslavia.
你可以很容易地、毫无障碍地访问南斯拉夫。
Slack-Man
My landlord did. They loved it.
Actually I had an additional issue as my wife at the time had a Philippine passport and it made travel to some countries more difficult (we had issues getting a Italian and Austrian visa, both consulate office in Munich wanted us to go to the main embassy in Bonn but we are already in Garmisch Partenkirchen).
我的房东就是这样，他们很喜欢。
事实上，我还有一个额外的问题，因为我妻子当时持有菲律宾护照，这使得去一些国家的旅行更加困难(我们在获得意大利和奥地利签证方面遇到了问题，慕尼黑的领事馆办公室都想让我们去波恩的主要大使馆，但我们已经在加尔米施帕滕基钦了)。
My landlord did. They loved it.
Actually I had an additional issue as my wife at the time had a Philippine passport and it made travel to some countries more difficult (we had issues getting a Italian and Austrian visa, both consulate office in Munich wanted us to go to the main embassy in Bonn but we are already in Garmisch Partenkirchen).
我的房东就是这样，他们很喜欢。
事实上，我还有一个额外的问题，因为我妻子当时持有菲律宾护照，这使得去一些国家的旅行更加困难(我们在获得意大利和奥地利签证方面遇到了问题，慕尼黑的领事馆办公室都想让我们去波恩的主要大使馆，但我们已经在加尔米施帕滕基钦了)。
Ben Orange
Most Americans don't think that. In my opinion, it's Western Europeans who push the idea that the EU is Europe (granted, that's not exactly what this map shows).
大多数美国人不这么认为。在我看来，是西欧人推动了欧盟就是欧洲的想法(当然，这不是这张地图所显示的)。
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Most Americans don't think that. In my opinion, it's Western Europeans who push the idea that the EU is Europe (granted, that's not exactly what this map shows).
大多数美国人不这么认为。在我看来，是西欧人推动了欧盟就是欧洲的想法(当然，这不是这张地图所显示的)。
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Tim Wright
Let’s face it: there are folks on both sides of the Atlantic whose grasp of geography of the other respective continents is lacking. Twenty yrs ago a friend who is a public school and Oxford graduate asked for advice on a trip he was planning. His family would fly into San Diego and drive up to the Sea-Tac and Vancouver area to fly home to the UK.
He wanted advice on what attractions and natural wonders were worth visiting. I asked him how long he planned to in the States; he said “one week.” I suppressed a laugh but explained that all they would have time to do is wave as they drove by the San Diego Zoo, the Hearst Mansion, Disneyland, Yosemite, etc. It’s about 1,400 miles. Must have looked closer on a globe.
让我们面对现实吧:大西洋两岸都有人缺乏对其他大陆的地理了解。20年前，一位毕业于牛津大学公立学校的朋友就他计划的一次旅行向我请教。他的家人会先飞到圣地亚哥，然后开车到Sea-Tac和温哥华地区，再飞回英国。
他想知道哪些景点和自然奇观值得参观。我问他打算在美国待多久。他说“一个星期。”我强忍着笑，解释说他们只有时间在开车经过圣地亚哥动物园、赫斯特大厦、迪斯尼乐园、优胜美地等地时挥手。大约1400英里。肯定是用地球仪仔细看了。
Let’s face it: there are folks on both sides of the Atlantic whose grasp of geography of the other respective continents is lacking. Twenty yrs ago a friend who is a public school and Oxford graduate asked for advice on a trip he was planning. His family would fly into San Diego and drive up to the Sea-Tac and Vancouver area to fly home to the UK.
He wanted advice on what attractions and natural wonders were worth visiting. I asked him how long he planned to in the States; he said “one week.” I suppressed a laugh but explained that all they would have time to do is wave as they drove by the San Diego Zoo, the Hearst Mansion, Disneyland, Yosemite, etc. It’s about 1,400 miles. Must have looked closer on a globe.
让我们面对现实吧:大西洋两岸都有人缺乏对其他大陆的地理了解。20年前，一位毕业于牛津大学公立学校的朋友就他计划的一次旅行向我请教。他的家人会先飞到圣地亚哥，然后开车到Sea-Tac和温哥华地区，再飞回英国。
他想知道哪些景点和自然奇观值得参观。我问他打算在美国待多久。他说“一个星期。”我强忍着笑，解释说他们只有时间在开车经过圣地亚哥动物园、赫斯特大厦、迪斯尼乐园、优胜美地等地时挥手。大约1400英里。肯定是用地球仪仔细看了。
Bob Jamison
That’s okay, Europeans think America is New York, California, and Chicago.
还好吧，欧洲人也认为美国就是纽约、加州和芝加哥。
That’s okay, Europeans think America is New York, California, and Chicago.
还好吧，欧洲人也认为美国就是纽约、加州和芝加哥。
Tadeusz Nusman
I can just say that I do have some American friends, and visited USA several times as a tourist and for business.
And I liked it as a tourist. But the common misconception was about my friend. He is a “hardcore European”, his roots can be traced as far as XV century.
And we met a common misconception - Americans think that he is not European at all (!!!), just because the guy is Spanish, and obviously speaks Spanish, they mistook him for some “latin” - idk, maybe Italian? Romanian? Both from “Latin world” thing.
It was absolutely shocking to us. I do get that Spain had some colonies, but come on, we don’t call Americans “English” just because they are former English colonizers.
我只能说，我确实有一些美国朋友，并以旅游和商务的身份去过美国几次。
作为一名游客，我很喜欢那里。但普遍的误解是关于我的朋友。他是一个“如假包换的欧洲人”，他的根源可以追溯到十五世纪。
我们遇到了一个常见的误解——美国人认为他根本不是欧洲人(!!)，仅仅因为他是西班牙人，而且显然会说西班牙语，他们就把他误认为是“拉丁人”——呃，那意大利人呢?罗马尼亚人呢?都来自拉丁世界。
这让我们非常震惊。我知道西班牙有一些殖民地，但拜托，我们不会因为美国人是前英国殖民者就称他们为“英国人”。
I can just say that I do have some American friends, and visited USA several times as a tourist and for business.
And I liked it as a tourist. But the common misconception was about my friend. He is a “hardcore European”, his roots can be traced as far as XV century.
And we met a common misconception - Americans think that he is not European at all (!!!), just because the guy is Spanish, and obviously speaks Spanish, they mistook him for some “latin” - idk, maybe Italian? Romanian? Both from “Latin world” thing.
It was absolutely shocking to us. I do get that Spain had some colonies, but come on, we don’t call Americans “English” just because they are former English colonizers.
我只能说，我确实有一些美国朋友，并以旅游和商务的身份去过美国几次。
作为一名游客，我很喜欢那里。但普遍的误解是关于我的朋友。他是一个“如假包换的欧洲人”，他的根源可以追溯到十五世纪。
我们遇到了一个常见的误解——美国人认为他根本不是欧洲人(!!)，仅仅因为他是西班牙人，而且显然会说西班牙语，他们就把他误认为是“拉丁人”——呃，那意大利人呢?罗马尼亚人呢?都来自拉丁世界。
这让我们非常震惊。我知道西班牙有一些殖民地，但拜托，我们不会因为美国人是前英国殖民者就称他们为“英国人”。
Janet Christian
Many seem to believe it’s one giant third world country. Before I moved to Spain, people were repeatedly telling me what a terrible mistake I was making. My cousin, in fact, emailed, “You’re making a fatal mistake.” I emailed back and asked what she meant. She replied, “A FATAL MISTAKE!” LOL
I was asked if Spain had paved roads, if you could drink the water, and if there were actual grocery stores. To the person who asked the latter question, I posted back a panoramic picture of our local supermarket’s SIXTY aisles.
Even now, people post the craziest questions and concerns in Facebook expat groups. Questions about healthcare, food quality, water quality, danger, etc. Little do these people realize that most of Europe has MUCH better of all these things.
许多人似乎认为这是一个巨大的第三世界国家。在我搬到西班牙之前，人们反复告诉我我犯了一个多么可怕的错误。事实上，我表姐给我发邮件说，“你犯了一个致命的错误。”我回复了她的邮件，问她是什么意思。她回答说:“一个致命的错误!”哈哈哈哈
有人问我，西班牙有没有铺好的路，西班牙的水能不能喝，西班牙有没有真正的杂货店。对于问后一个问题的人，我回复了一张我们当地超市60条过道的全景照片。即使是现在，人们也会在Facebook的外籍人士群里发布最疯狂的问题和担忧。关于医疗保健、食品质量、水质、危险等问题。这些人几乎没有意识到，欧洲大部分地区在所有这些方面都要好得多。
Many seem to believe it’s one giant third world country. Before I moved to Spain, people were repeatedly telling me what a terrible mistake I was making. My cousin, in fact, emailed, “You’re making a fatal mistake.” I emailed back and asked what she meant. She replied, “A FATAL MISTAKE!” LOL
I was asked if Spain had paved roads, if you could drink the water, and if there were actual grocery stores. To the person who asked the latter question, I posted back a panoramic picture of our local supermarket’s SIXTY aisles.
Even now, people post the craziest questions and concerns in Facebook expat groups. Questions about healthcare, food quality, water quality, danger, etc. Little do these people realize that most of Europe has MUCH better of all these things.
许多人似乎认为这是一个巨大的第三世界国家。在我搬到西班牙之前，人们反复告诉我我犯了一个多么可怕的错误。事实上，我表姐给我发邮件说，“你犯了一个致命的错误。”我回复了她的邮件，问她是什么意思。她回答说:“一个致命的错误!”哈哈哈哈
有人问我，西班牙有没有铺好的路，西班牙的水能不能喝，西班牙有没有真正的杂货店。对于问后一个问题的人，我回复了一张我们当地超市60条过道的全景照片。即使是现在，人们也会在Facebook的外籍人士群里发布最疯狂的问题和担忧。关于医疗保健、食品质量、水质、危险等问题。这些人几乎没有意识到，欧洲大部分地区在所有这些方面都要好得多。
Michael Wall
I am a yank who has visited Europe many times. I constantly laud how friendly most of the people are. Why drives me up the fecking wall is hearing my countrymen trash Europe … most especially France. My question is always, “Have you ever been there?” The answer us always “No.”
我是一个去过欧洲很多次的美国人。我经常称赞大多数人都很友好。
为什么会听到我的同胞在说欧洲的坏话，尤其是法国，这让我抓狂。我的问题总是:“你去过那里吗?”我们得到的答案总是“不”。
I am a yank who has visited Europe many times. I constantly laud how friendly most of the people are. Why drives me up the fecking wall is hearing my countrymen trash Europe … most especially France. My question is always, “Have you ever been there?” The answer us always “No.”
我是一个去过欧洲很多次的美国人。我经常称赞大多数人都很友好。
为什么会听到我的同胞在说欧洲的坏话，尤其是法国，这让我抓狂。我的问题总是:“你去过那里吗?”我们得到的答案总是“不”。
Raymond Dring
Many of the white parts of the population fail to appreciate that European civilisations and customs are far far older than settled America and that the industrial revolution that made modern America began in Europe.
许多白人没有意识到，欧洲的文明和习俗比定居的美国要古老得多，也没有意识到造就现代美国的工业革命始于欧洲。
Many of the white parts of the population fail to appreciate that European civilisations and customs are far far older than settled America and that the industrial revolution that made modern America began in Europe.
许多白人没有意识到，欧洲的文明和习俗比定居的美国要古老得多，也没有意识到造就现代美国的工业革命始于欧洲。
Robbert Plix
Add to that that the knwledge that kicked of the renesance was largely ancient Greek and Roman knowledge that was preserved in the muslim world.
此外，文艺复兴时期的知识主要是保存在穆斯林世界的古希腊和罗马知识。
Add to that that the knwledge that kicked of the renesance was largely ancient Greek and Roman knowledge that was preserved in the muslim world.
此外，文艺复兴时期的知识主要是保存在穆斯林世界的古希腊和罗马知识。
Tom Withey
In fairness, most British people will tell you France is a toilet, but we're allowed to XD
公平地说，大多数英国人会告诉你法国是一个厕所，但我们被允许去那里/大笑
In fairness, most British people will tell you France is a toilet, but we're allowed to XD
公平地说，大多数英国人会告诉你法国是一个厕所，但我们被允许去那里/大笑
Philip Salama
I'll happily insult Britain all day, but I'll raise hell if a bloody Yank thinks that he gets to insult your country. We get to insult each other because we've been neighbours for over a thousand years. They don't get that privilege.
我很乐意侮辱英国一整天，但如果一个该死的美国佬认为他可以侮辱你的国家，我会大发雷霆。我们可以互相侮辱因为我们做了一千多年的邻居。他们没有这种特权。
I'll happily insult Britain all day, but I'll raise hell if a bloody Yank thinks that he gets to insult your country. We get to insult each other because we've been neighbours for over a thousand years. They don't get that privilege.
我很乐意侮辱英国一整天，但如果一个该死的美国佬认为他可以侮辱你的国家，我会大发雷霆。我们可以互相侮辱因为我们做了一千多年的邻居。他们没有这种特权。
Mark Burn
Yes in England insulting somebody whilst having a drink with them is a sure indication of a strong friendship, this should give an indication about our true feelings towards France and its people……Macron however.
是的，在英国，在和别人喝酒的时候侮辱他们是一种坚定的友谊，这应该表明我们对法国和法国人民的真实感情，不过马克龙嘛……
Yes in England insulting somebody whilst having a drink with them is a sure indication of a strong friendship, this should give an indication about our true feelings towards France and its people……Macron however.
是的，在英国，在和别人喝酒的时候侮辱他们是一种坚定的友谊，这应该表明我们对法国和法国人民的真实感情，不过马克龙嘛……
Daniel Richard
Said in rivalry rather than as fact
This is like what people would say about sports teams. “bad" being relative rather than absolute.
The point at which it becomes ignorant is when someone claims it's bad in an absolute sense, justified by false claims such as “can they even afford healthcare?”.
I don't understand so well why Americans ask such questions and British don't.
说这话是出于竞争而不是事实
这就像人们谈论运动队一样。“坏”是相对的，而不是绝对的。当有人用“他们能负担得起医疗保健吗?”等错误的说法来证明它是极度糟糕时，它就变得无知了。
我不太明白为什么美国人会问这样的问题，而英国人不会。
Said in rivalry rather than as fact
This is like what people would say about sports teams. “bad" being relative rather than absolute.
The point at which it becomes ignorant is when someone claims it's bad in an absolute sense, justified by false claims such as “can they even afford healthcare?”.
I don't understand so well why Americans ask such questions and British don't.
说这话是出于竞争而不是事实
这就像人们谈论运动队一样。“坏”是相对的，而不是绝对的。当有人用“他们能负担得起医疗保健吗?”等错误的说法来证明它是极度糟糕时，它就变得无知了。
我不太明白为什么美国人会问这样的问题，而英国人不会。
Gwyn Kemp-Philp
I was indifferent about France until I went to live there for some years.
Now, I literally love France and wish I was still there.
The experience killed off for good about a hundred or so stupid stories about how bad it would be to live there.
Given the choice, I would stay in France.
在去法国生活几年之前，我对法国并不感兴趣。
现在，我真的很爱法国，希望我还在那里。这次经历彻底消灭了大约100个关于住在那里有多糟糕的愚蠢故事。
如果可以选择，我会留在法国。
I was indifferent about France until I went to live there for some years.
Now, I literally love France and wish I was still there.
The experience killed off for good about a hundred or so stupid stories about how bad it would be to live there.
Given the choice, I would stay in France.
在去法国生活几年之前，我对法国并不感兴趣。
现在，我真的很爱法国，希望我还在那里。这次经历彻底消灭了大约100个关于住在那里有多糟糕的愚蠢故事。
如果可以选择，我会留在法国。
Antony T Curtis
By tradition, the British and French behave like siblings. We fight and insult each other but when one of us are attacked, the other comes to aid.
按照传统，英国人和法国人的行为就像兄弟姐妹一样。我们互相争斗，互相侮辱，但当其中一方受到攻击时，另一方会伸出援手。
By tradition, the British and French behave like siblings. We fight and insult each other but when one of us are attacked, the other comes to aid.
按照传统，英国人和法国人的行为就像兄弟姐妹一样。我们互相争斗，互相侮辱，但当其中一方受到攻击时，另一方会伸出援手。
Ropeburn
A good ten years back I had a buddy/colleague/comrad who went to the US for anti-aircraft missile training. He came back with a handful of hilarious stories.
One of those was a US forces Major (a studied man, mind you) asking him:
“Do you have electricity and running water as standard in your houses over in Germany?”
His answer:
“No, we're crafting your BMWs and Mercedeses with hammers and chisels. From stone!”
十年前，我有一个朋友/同事/同志去美国参加防空导弹训练。他带回了一些滑稽的故事。
其中一个是一位美国少校(注意，他是个博学的人)问他：“在德国，你们家有标准供电和自来水吗?”
他的回答：“没有，我们正在用锤子和凿子从石头制造你们的宝马和奔驰。”
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A good ten years back I had a buddy/colleague/comrad who went to the US for anti-aircraft missile training. He came back with a handful of hilarious stories.
One of those was a US forces Major (a studied man, mind you) asking him:
“Do you have electricity and running water as standard in your houses over in Germany?”
His answer:
“No, we're crafting your BMWs and Mercedeses with hammers and chisels. From stone!”
十年前，我有一个朋友/同事/同志去美国参加防空导弹训练。他带回了一些滑稽的故事。
其中一个是一位美国少校(注意，他是个博学的人)问他：“在德国，你们家有标准供电和自来水吗?”
他的回答：“没有，我们正在用锤子和凿子从石头制造你们的宝马和奔驰。”
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Stijn Hommes
With silly questions like that, it might be a good idea to require every college- and high school graduate to visit a country in Europe at least once or maybe improve education so you learn more about countries outside the US.
对于这样愚蠢的问题，要求每个大学和高中毕业生至少访问一次欧洲国家可能是个好主意，或者提高教育水平，让你更多地了解美国以外的国家。
With silly questions like that, it might be a good idea to require every college- and high school graduate to visit a country in Europe at least once or maybe improve education so you learn more about countries outside the US.
对于这样愚蠢的问题，要求每个大学和高中毕业生至少访问一次欧洲国家可能是个好主意，或者提高教育水平，让你更多地了解美国以外的国家。
David Force
When my daughter was a freshman she asked me if she could spend a semester in Italy to study the language and culture. While there she asked me if she could fly to Madrid, Paris and London to visit with school friends that were studying there. I said yes and I was happy to pay for it because I looked at it as a wonderful, possibly once in a lifetime opportunity.
My brother was appalled that I would let her do that. He was convinced she would be kidnapped by roving gangs of Muslims.
I told him she would be safer there than most American cities with all their guns. Especially where we live in Detroit.
She now coordinates technical teams from around the world for Google and that life experience is one of the reasons she got that very high paying job.
I am happy to report that at our better universities, and there are many of them, studying abroad is normal and expected.
当我女儿上大一的时候，她问我她是否可以去意大利学习一个学期的语言和文化。在那里，她问我她是否能飞往马德里、巴黎和伦敦，拜访在那里学习的同学。我答应了，我很乐意付钱，因为我认为这是一个很好的，可能一生只有一次的机会。
我哥哥对我允许她那样做感到震惊。他确信她会被四处游荡的穆斯林团伙绑架。我告诉他，她在那里会比大多数美国城市的枪支更安全。尤其是在我们住的底特律。
她现在为谷歌协调来自世界各地的技术团队，这种生活经验是她得到这份高薪工作的原因之一。
我很高兴地告诉大家，在我们的很多好大学里，出国留学是正常的，也是值得期待的。
When my daughter was a freshman she asked me if she could spend a semester in Italy to study the language and culture. While there she asked me if she could fly to Madrid, Paris and London to visit with school friends that were studying there. I said yes and I was happy to pay for it because I looked at it as a wonderful, possibly once in a lifetime opportunity.
My brother was appalled that I would let her do that. He was convinced she would be kidnapped by roving gangs of Muslims.
I told him she would be safer there than most American cities with all their guns. Especially where we live in Detroit.
She now coordinates technical teams from around the world for Google and that life experience is one of the reasons she got that very high paying job.
I am happy to report that at our better universities, and there are many of them, studying abroad is normal and expected.
当我女儿上大一的时候，她问我她是否可以去意大利学习一个学期的语言和文化。在那里，她问我她是否能飞往马德里、巴黎和伦敦，拜访在那里学习的同学。我答应了，我很乐意付钱，因为我认为这是一个很好的，可能一生只有一次的机会。
我哥哥对我允许她那样做感到震惊。他确信她会被四处游荡的穆斯林团伙绑架。我告诉他，她在那里会比大多数美国城市的枪支更安全。尤其是在我们住的底特律。
她现在为谷歌协调来自世界各地的技术团队，这种生活经验是她得到这份高薪工作的原因之一。
我很高兴地告诉大家，在我们的很多好大学里，出国留学是正常的，也是值得期待的。
Alex S.
US elite universities are about on par with the best on offer in Europe and often significantly superior when it comes to networking and a few other things. I always believed that the USA should build on that foundation and broaden access and opportunity. Your raw wealth gives you possibilities that even the UK and my home country Germany can’t dream to realize.
Sadly this and other opportunities for success get squandered. I hope you can change that. Having more well educated people on this planet is a boon to everyone.
美国的精英大学与欧洲最好的大学不相上下，而且在社交和其他一些方面往往要优越得多。我一直认为，美国应该在这个基础上继续发展，扩大接触和机会。你的原始财富给了你连英国和我的祖国德国都无法梦想实现的可能性。
可悲的是，这和其他成功的机会都被浪费了。我希望你能改变这一点。在这个星球上有更多受过良好教育的人对每个人都有好处。
US elite universities are about on par with the best on offer in Europe and often significantly superior when it comes to networking and a few other things. I always believed that the USA should build on that foundation and broaden access and opportunity. Your raw wealth gives you possibilities that even the UK and my home country Germany can’t dream to realize.
Sadly this and other opportunities for success get squandered. I hope you can change that. Having more well educated people on this planet is a boon to everyone.
美国的精英大学与欧洲最好的大学不相上下，而且在社交和其他一些方面往往要优越得多。我一直认为，美国应该在这个基础上继续发展，扩大接触和机会。你的原始财富给了你连英国和我的祖国德国都无法梦想实现的可能性。
可悲的是，这和其他成功的机会都被浪费了。我希望你能改变这一点。在这个星球上有更多受过良好教育的人对每个人都有好处。
David Force
I agree. I see these young graduates making better decisions politically, about our planet, as well as economically and with more diversity than their ancestors.
Most of the candidates running for president strongly support making college affordable or free for the working and middle class. Just last year my daughters university decided to give free tuition to any students whose family income was $65,000 or below. Better educated citizens make better decisions for everybody.
我同意。我看到这些年轻的毕业生在政治上、在我们的星球上、在经济上做出了更好的决定，而且比他们的祖先更加多样化。
大多数竞选总统的候选人都强烈支持让工薪阶层和中产阶级上得起大学或免费上大学。就在去年，我女儿的大学决定为家庭收入在65,000美元或以下的学生提供免费学费。受过更好教育的公民能为每个人做出更好的决定。
I agree. I see these young graduates making better decisions politically, about our planet, as well as economically and with more diversity than their ancestors.
Most of the candidates running for president strongly support making college affordable or free for the working and middle class. Just last year my daughters university decided to give free tuition to any students whose family income was $65,000 or below. Better educated citizens make better decisions for everybody.
我同意。我看到这些年轻的毕业生在政治上、在我们的星球上、在经济上做出了更好的决定，而且比他们的祖先更加多样化。
大多数竞选总统的候选人都强烈支持让工薪阶层和中产阶级上得起大学或免费上大学。就在去年，我女儿的大学决定为家庭收入在65,000美元或以下的学生提供免费学费。受过更好教育的公民能为每个人做出更好的决定。
Susan Pratt
In 7th Grade our Social Studies curriculum was mostly about Europe. We learned about many countries on the continent, and my teacher had made arrangements to set up pen pals, for each of us to have a pen pal in various countries. I ended up with a gal in Thessaloniki, Greece. I kept in touch with her all the way up to 12th grade. I enjoyed learning about her and her life. I even learned about the Greek alphabet through her. It was a great experience. In high school, I joined the American Field Service (AFS) where we had an exchanged student from various parts of the country, and we had a high school student to go abroad. I was in that club all the way up to 12th grade. I met a lot of people from other countries.
Many colleges and universities have a study abroad program, with various trips and study abroad plans.
七年级时，我们的社会研究课程主要是关于欧洲的。我们了解了非洲大陆上的许多国家，我的老师安排我们建立笔友，让我们每个人在不同的国家都有一个笔友。我与希腊的塞萨洛尼基的一个女孩结成笔友。我一直和她保持联系直到12年级。我喜欢了解她和她的生活。我甚至从她那里学到了希腊字母。这是一次很棒的经历。高中时，我加入了美国外勤服务(AFS)，我们有一个来自全国各地的交换生，还有一个高中生要出国。我在那个社团一直待到12年级。我遇到了很多来自其他国家的人。
许多学院和大学都有出国留学项目，有各种各样的旅行和出国留学计划。
In 7th Grade our Social Studies curriculum was mostly about Europe. We learned about many countries on the continent, and my teacher had made arrangements to set up pen pals, for each of us to have a pen pal in various countries. I ended up with a gal in Thessaloniki, Greece. I kept in touch with her all the way up to 12th grade. I enjoyed learning about her and her life. I even learned about the Greek alphabet through her. It was a great experience. In high school, I joined the American Field Service (AFS) where we had an exchanged student from various parts of the country, and we had a high school student to go abroad. I was in that club all the way up to 12th grade. I met a lot of people from other countries.
Many colleges and universities have a study abroad program, with various trips and study abroad plans.
七年级时，我们的社会研究课程主要是关于欧洲的。我们了解了非洲大陆上的许多国家，我的老师安排我们建立笔友，让我们每个人在不同的国家都有一个笔友。我与希腊的塞萨洛尼基的一个女孩结成笔友。我一直和她保持联系直到12年级。我喜欢了解她和她的生活。我甚至从她那里学到了希腊字母。这是一次很棒的经历。高中时，我加入了美国外勤服务(AFS)，我们有一个来自全国各地的交换生，还有一个高中生要出国。我在那个社团一直待到12年级。我遇到了很多来自其他国家的人。
许多学院和大学都有出国留学项目，有各种各样的旅行和出国留学计划。
Kimberley Lear
But how do they treat minority groups, like Hispanics, in Europe?
(Was asked this once! Lol)
但他们如何对待欧洲的拉美裔等少数民族呢?
But how do they treat minority groups, like Hispanics, in Europe?
(Was asked this once! Lol)
但他们如何对待欧洲的拉美裔等少数民族呢?
Christopher Westburry
Especially in Spain, Hispanics are the largest group suffering from government policies, and Mexicans are so highly discriminated against, they don't even bother to immigrate in significant numbers!
尤其是在西班牙，西班牙裔是受政府政策影响最大的群体，墨西哥人受到严重歧视，他们甚至懒得大量移民！
Especially in Spain, Hispanics are the largest group suffering from government policies, and Mexicans are so highly discriminated against, they don't even bother to immigrate in significant numbers!
尤其是在西班牙，西班牙裔是受政府政策影响最大的群体，墨西哥人受到严重歧视，他们甚至懒得大量移民！
Gunilla Hartgers
When my husband turned 50 in January 2012, we went on a 10 day tour of Morocco. We joined a group of 25 people. I was there for one of two days before I got sick with food poisoning. I was the only one with food poisoning, but I have a sensetive stomach. I was sick for the remainder of the trip.
Our trip had an overnight stay in Madrid both going and coming. When I landed in Spain on the return and walked off the plane and into the airport building it was just like I had come to Heaven! Tell that to your American friends! Spain, the closest place to Heaven.
2012年1月，我丈夫50岁生日时，我们去摩洛哥旅行了10天。我们加入了一个25人的小组。我在那里待了两天就食物中毒了。我是唯一一个食物中毒的人，但我的胃很敏感。在接下来的旅行中，我一直在生病。
我们的旅行在马德里度过了一夜。当我在回程时降落在西班牙，走下飞机，走进机场大楼时，我就像来到了天堂一样！把这话告诉你的美国朋友吧!西班牙，离天堂最近的地方。
When my husband turned 50 in January 2012, we went on a 10 day tour of Morocco. We joined a group of 25 people. I was there for one of two days before I got sick with food poisoning. I was the only one with food poisoning, but I have a sensetive stomach. I was sick for the remainder of the trip.
Our trip had an overnight stay in Madrid both going and coming. When I landed in Spain on the return and walked off the plane and into the airport building it was just like I had come to Heaven! Tell that to your American friends! Spain, the closest place to Heaven.
2012年1月，我丈夫50岁生日时，我们去摩洛哥旅行了10天。我们加入了一个25人的小组。我在那里待了两天就食物中毒了。我是唯一一个食物中毒的人，但我的胃很敏感。在接下来的旅行中，我一直在生病。
我们的旅行在马德里度过了一夜。当我在回程时降落在西班牙，走下飞机，走进机场大楼时，我就像来到了天堂一样！把这话告诉你的美国朋友吧!西班牙，离天堂最近的地方。
Janet Christian
I certainly believe it’s a piece of heaven here on earth. I absolutely love it here. We live on our Social Security in a mountain villa an hour south of Valencia. Beautiful mountain setting and yet only 20 minutes to the gorgeous Mediterranean and white sand beach. I can’t imagine a better life.
我当然相信这是人间的一片天堂。我非常喜欢这里。我们靠社保生活在瓦伦西亚以南一小时车程的一座山间别墅里。美丽的山，但只要20分钟就能到美丽的地中海和白色沙滩。我无法想象更好的生活了。
I certainly believe it’s a piece of heaven here on earth. I absolutely love it here. We live on our Social Security in a mountain villa an hour south of Valencia. Beautiful mountain setting and yet only 20 minutes to the gorgeous Mediterranean and white sand beach. I can’t imagine a better life.
我当然相信这是人间的一片天堂。我非常喜欢这里。我们靠社保生活在瓦伦西亚以南一小时车程的一座山间别墅里。美丽的山，但只要20分钟就能到美丽的地中海和白色沙滩。我无法想象更好的生活了。
John Abbott
Maybe it’s worth mentioning, for the avoidance of doubt, that Morocco is Africa, not Europe.
也许值得一提的是，为了避免怀疑，摩洛哥是非洲，而不是欧洲。
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Maybe it’s worth mentioning, for the avoidance of doubt, that Morocco is Africa, not Europe.
也许值得一提的是，为了避免怀疑，摩洛哥是非洲，而不是欧洲。
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Gunilla Hartgers
Yes, Morocco is a country outside Europe, but still very close to Spain, only a hop away by air. I should not assume that everyone knows their geography. I work in travel, so I HAVE to know or I would send you to the wrong places.
是的，摩洛哥是一个欧洲以外的国家，但仍然离西班牙很近，坐飞机就能到。我不认为每个人都了解他们的地理。我在旅游行业工作，所以我必须知道，否则我会把你送到错误的地方。
Yes, Morocco is a country outside Europe, but still very close to Spain, only a hop away by air. I should not assume that everyone knows their geography. I work in travel, so I HAVE to know or I would send you to the wrong places.
是的，摩洛哥是一个欧洲以外的国家，但仍然离西班牙很近，坐飞机就能到。我不认为每个人都了解他们的地理。我在旅游行业工作，所以我必须知道，否则我会把你送到错误的地方。
Ozgur Zeren
I was asked if Spain had paved roads, if you could drink the water, and if there were actual grocery stores.
You should have just said no, we are driveling in sh*t. Its better for such people to not know existence of such different places like Spain, leave aside go to those places.
“有人问我，西班牙有没有铺好的路，西班牙的水能不能喝，西班牙有没有真正的杂货店。”
你应该直接说没有，我们在屎坑里。这样的人最好不知道西班牙这样不同地方的存在，跟这些地方保持距离。
I was asked if Spain had paved roads, if you could drink the water, and if there were actual grocery stores.
You should have just said no, we are driveling in sh*t. Its better for such people to not know existence of such different places like Spain, leave aside go to those places.
“有人问我，西班牙有没有铺好的路，西班牙的水能不能喝，西班牙有没有真正的杂货店。”
你应该直接说没有，我们在屎坑里。这样的人最好不知道西班牙这样不同地方的存在，跟这些地方保持距离。
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