研究发现，英国90%以上的人工洗车店非法雇佣工人
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(Surprise inspections of 36 carwashes found only 7% could prove legal employment rights were being upheld.)
（对36家洗车店的突击检查发现，只有7%的洗车店能够证明他们维护了合法的就业权利。）
新闻：
More than 90% of hand carwashes in UK employing workers illegally, study finds
-Only 7% had undertaken right-to-work checks and just 11% handed out payslips, Nottingham Trent University research reveals
研究发现，英国90%以上的人工洗车店非法雇佣工人
——诺丁汉特伦特大学的研究显示，只有7%的人进行了工作权利调查，只有11%的人发放了工资单
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-Only 7% had undertaken right-to-work checks and just 11% handed out payslips, Nottingham Trent University research reveals
研究发现，英国90%以上的人工洗车店非法雇佣工人
——诺丁汉特伦特大学的研究显示，只有7%的人进行了工作权利调查，只有11%的人发放了工资单
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(Surprise inspections of 36 carwashes found only 7% could prove legal employment rights were being upheld.)
（对36家洗车店的突击检查发现，只有7%的洗车店能够证明他们维护了合法的就业权利。）
新闻：
More than 90% of hand carwashes are likely to be employing workers illegally, without proper pay, records and first aid measures, three years after the government backed a voluntary scheme to tackle abuse in the sector.
三年前，政府支持了一项解决该行业虐待问题的自愿计划，超过90%的人工洗车店可能非法雇佣工人，没有适当的工资、记录和急救措施。
三年前，政府支持了一项解决该行业虐待问题的自愿计划，超过90%的人工洗车店可能非法雇佣工人，没有适当的工资、记录和急救措施。
Surprise inspections of carwashes in Leicester, Suffolk and Norfolk found only 7% had undertaken right-to-work checks, a legal obligation, or could prove that legal employment rights were being upheld.
在莱斯特、萨福克和诺福克对洗车场的突击检查中发现，只有7%的洗车店通过了工作权利检查——这是一项法律义务，或者可以证明合法的就业权利得到了维护。
在莱斯特、萨福克和诺福克对洗车场的突击检查中发现，只有7%的洗车店通过了工作权利检查——这是一项法律义务，或者可以证明合法的就业权利得到了维护。
The research was carried out by Nottingham Trent University in partnership with the government-backed Responsible Car Wash Scheme (RCWS) and the Home Office’s modern slavery prevention fund.
这项研究由诺丁汉特伦特大学与政府支持的“负责任洗车项目”和内政部的现代奴隶制预防基金合作开展。
这项研究由诺丁汉特伦特大学与政府支持的“负责任洗车项目”和内政部的现代奴隶制预防基金合作开展。
Only 6% of the carwashes had written contracts with workers while just 11% handed out payslips so that they could prove they were paying the legal minimum wage, holiday pay or sick pay. Less than half (41%) were registered companies, indicating most are not registered with the tax authorities.
只有6%的洗车店与工人签订了用工合同，只有11%的人发放了工资单，以证明他们支付了法定的最低工资、假期工资或病假工资。不到一半（41%）是注册公司，这表明大多数洗车店没有在税务机关注册。
只有6%的洗车店与工人签订了用工合同，只有11%的人发放了工资单，以证明他们支付了法定的最低工资、假期工资或病假工资。不到一半（41%）是注册公司，这表明大多数洗车店没有在税务机关注册。
The 36 businesses visited for the study this year were not warned about the inspections and were identified partly using a tool to locate neighbourhoods likely to host non-compliant businesses developed by the Nottingham Trent team as well as through police intelligence.
今年的研究走访的36家洗车店没有收到有关检查的警告，部分是通过诺丁汉特伦特团队开发的一种定位可能存在违规企业的社区的工具以及警方情报确定的。
今年的研究走访的36家洗车店没有收到有关检查的警告，部分是通过诺丁汉特伦特团队开发的一种定位可能存在违规企业的社区的工具以及警方情报确定的。
Teresa Sayers, the managing director of the RCWS, said she had visited more than 150 carwashes over the last few years and the study was “representative of the picture” across the UK. “This is endemic,” she said.
“负责任洗车项目”的主管特蕾莎·塞耶斯说，在过去几年里，她走访了150多家洗车店，这项研究在英国“具有代表性”。“这是地方病，”她说。
“负责任洗车项目”的主管特蕾莎·塞耶斯说，在过去几年里，她走访了150多家洗车店，这项研究在英国“具有代表性”。“这是地方病，”她说。
“It is quite shocking. Even though I have seen so many carwashes I was taken aback by how upfront these operators [in the study] were [about illegal practices] as they were so confident they were not going to be challenged.”
“这很令人震惊。尽管我看过很多洗车场，但我还是被这些（研究包含的）经营者（对非法行为）如此坦率的态度吓了一跳，因为他们如此自信他们不会受到挑战。”
“这很令人震惊。尽管我看过很多洗车场，但我还是被这些（研究包含的）经营者（对非法行为）如此坦率的态度吓了一跳，因为他们如此自信他们不会受到挑战。”
Sayers called on the government to implement local or regional licensing schemes for carwashes based on the RCWS’s code of practice, enforced by better sharing of data and obxtives between oversight agencies which include HMRC, which is responsible for monitoring payment of the national minimum wage, and the Gangmasters and Labour Abuse Authority, which acts to protect vulnerable workers.
塞耶斯呼吁政府根据“负责任洗车项目”的行为准则实施本地或区域洗车许可计划，并在监管机构之间更好地共享数据和目标，其中包括负责监督国家最低工资支付的英国税务局和负责保护弱势工人的工头和劳工滥用管理局。
塞耶斯呼吁政府根据“负责任洗车项目”的行为准则实施本地或区域洗车许可计划，并在监管机构之间更好地共享数据和目标，其中包括负责监督国家最低工资支付的英国税务局和负责保护弱势工人的工头和劳工滥用管理局。
Sayers said only a “very, very small percentage” of the estimated 5,000 hand carwashes in the UK, which are thought to employ at least 15,000 people, had signed up to the voluntary good practice scheme she oversees, which was set up in 2018 in an effort to improve conditions in the sector.
塞耶斯说，在英国估计有5000家人工洗车店中，只有“非常非常小的比例”签署了她监督的自愿良好实践计划，该计划于2018年设立，旨在改善该行业的条件。这些人工洗车店被认为至少雇用了1.5万人。
塞耶斯说，在英国估计有5000家人工洗车店中，只有“非常非常小的比例”签署了她监督的自愿良好实践计划，该计划于2018年设立，旨在改善该行业的条件。这些人工洗车店被认为至少雇用了1.5万人。
She said: “Good operators say they want to operate fairly, but they can’t afford to do so as [they are] going to be undercut by the business across the road or around the corner.”
她表示：“好的经营者表示，他们也希望公平经营，但他们承担不起这样做的代价，因为（他们）将被马路对面或街角的同行抢走生意。”
她表示：“好的经营者表示，他们也希望公平经营，但他们承担不起这样做的代价，因为（他们）将被马路对面或街角的同行抢走生意。”
Sayers said oversight was fragmented and operators realised they were rarely at risk of inspection, with any action likely to be over quickly allowing them to return to poor practice.
塞耶斯说，监管是分散的，运营商意识到他们很少有被检查的风险，且任何行动都可能很快结束，让他们回到糟糕的做法。
塞耶斯说，监管是分散的，运营商意识到他们很少有被检查的风险，且任何行动都可能很快结束，让他们回到糟糕的做法。
Margaret Beels, the director of labour market enforcement, a government role created in 2017 to help coordinate oversight of treatment of workers in the UK, said the range of issues found within carwashes required “a joined up approach – including engagement with local authorities, since there can be environmental issues as well as employment concerns associated with hand carwashes”.
英国劳动力市场执法局局长（2017年设立的一个政府职位，旨在帮助协调对英国工人待遇的监管）玛格丽特·比尔斯表示，洗车业发现的一系列问题需要“采取联合措施——包括与地方当局合作，因为人工洗车业可能存在环境问题和就业问题”。
英国劳动力市场执法局局长（2017年设立的一个政府职位，旨在帮助协调对英国工人待遇的监管）玛格丽特·比尔斯表示，洗车业发现的一系列问题需要“采取联合措施——包括与地方当局合作，因为人工洗车业可能存在环境问题和就业问题”。
She said: “Evidence suggests that a broad range of noncompliance is prent in the hand carwash sector, mostly lower levels of labour market noncompliance and exploitation, though instances of modern slavery and human trafficking have been found. Underpayment of the minimum wage is a recurrent issue.”
她说：“有证据表明，洗车行业普遍存在广泛的不合规行为，其中大多数是劳动力市场较低水平的不合规和剥削行为，但也发现了现代奴隶制和人口贩卖的情况。支付低于最低工资是一个经常性的问题。”
她说：“有证据表明，洗车行业普遍存在广泛的不合规行为，其中大多数是劳动力市场较低水平的不合规和剥削行为，但也发现了现代奴隶制和人口贩卖的情况。支付低于最低工资是一个经常性的问题。”
The latest findings on continuing poor treatment of workers in carwashes come after the government in early 2019 rejected the idea of a national licensing scheme for the sector.
在2019年初政府否决了对该行业实施全国许可计划的想法之后，有关洗车工人待遇持续恶劣的最新调查结果出炉了。
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在2019年初政府否决了对该行业实施全国许可计划的想法之后，有关洗车工人待遇持续恶劣的最新调查结果出炉了。
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A parliamentary report by the environmental audit committee had called for a licensing scheme after it held an inquiry that heard evidence on exploitation of workers and environmental concerns, but the government rejected the idea in favour of more support for the then regional, voluntary RCWS.
环境审计委员会的一份议会报告在举行了一项调查，听取了关于剥削工人和环境问题的证据后，呼吁制定许可证计划，但政府拒绝了这一赞成更多地支持当时的区域性自愿“负责任洗车项目”的想法。
环境审计委员会的一份议会报告在举行了一项调查，听取了关于剥削工人和环境问题的证据后，呼吁制定许可证计划，但政府拒绝了这一赞成更多地支持当时的区域性自愿“负责任洗车项目”的想法。
A government spokesperson said: “Illegal working undercuts honest employers, puts vulnerable migrants at risk of exploitation, cheats legitimate job seekers out of employment and defrauds the public purse. Tackling this damaging crime is a key government priority, which is why we continue to work with law enforcement agencies to tackle illegal migration in all its forms.
一位政府发言人说：“非法工作损害了诚实的雇主的利益，使脆弱的移民面临被剥削的风险，欺骗合法求职者的就业机会，骗取公共资金。打击这种破坏性犯罪是政府的首要任务，这就是为什么我们继续与执法机构合作，打击各种形式的非法移民。
一位政府发言人说：“非法工作损害了诚实的雇主的利益，使脆弱的移民面临被剥削的风险，欺骗合法求职者的就业机会，骗取公共资金。打击这种破坏性犯罪是政府的首要任务，这就是为什么我们继续与执法机构合作，打击各种形式的非法移民。
“Our Nationality and Borders Act will ensure the system is fair to those in genuine need and firm on those who seek to abuse it.”
“我们的《国籍与边境法案》将确保移民制度对真正需要的人公平，并坚决打击那些试图滥用移民制度的人。”
“我们的《国籍与边境法案》将确保移民制度对真正需要的人公平，并坚决打击那些试图滥用移民制度的人。”
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Shaggy0291 58
Not surprised at all. There are an absolute ton of exploitative labour practices hiding just under the surface of our society. Fruit pickers are another huge example; who the fuck wants to live in a camp, performing backbreaking, insecure labour for less than minimum wage? Noone with any sense of their own self worth would sign up for that willingly. Yet all you hear in the media are jeers about how lazy we all are. Where's the conversation about how much we exploit the foreigners that come here? If you really want British people working those jobs then pay a fair wage and treat the people doing it with the dignity they deserve!
一点也不奇怪。在我们社会的表面下隐藏着大量剥削劳工的做法。水果采摘工是另一个巨大的例子：谁tm愿意住在集中营里，干着辛苦又不安全的苦力，拿着不到最低的工资？任何有自我价值感的人都不会自愿报名干这一行。然而，你在媒体上听到的都是对我们是多么懒惰的嘲笑。关于我们在多大程度上剥削来到这里的外国人的讨论哪里去了？如果你真的想让英国人做这些工作，那就给他们公平的工资，给他们应得的尊严！
Not surprised at all. There are an absolute ton of exploitative labour practices hiding just under the surface of our society. Fruit pickers are another huge example; who the fuck wants to live in a camp, performing backbreaking, insecure labour for less than minimum wage? Noone with any sense of their own self worth would sign up for that willingly. Yet all you hear in the media are jeers about how lazy we all are. Where's the conversation about how much we exploit the foreigners that come here? If you really want British people working those jobs then pay a fair wage and treat the people doing it with the dignity they deserve!
一点也不奇怪。在我们社会的表面下隐藏着大量剥削劳工的做法。水果采摘工是另一个巨大的例子：谁tm愿意住在集中营里，干着辛苦又不安全的苦力，拿着不到最低的工资？任何有自我价值感的人都不会自愿报名干这一行。然而，你在媒体上听到的都是对我们是多么懒惰的嘲笑。关于我们在多大程度上剥削来到这里的外国人的讨论哪里去了？如果你真的想让英国人做这些工作，那就给他们公平的工资，给他们应得的尊严！
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Being cynical, that's something consumers agree with. In my region there were 40% unfilled vacancies in agriculture this summer. Supermarkets effectively set prices and so cap wages, once it's too expensive they buy from abroad.
As a couple of examples of labour cost uplift: the wholesale price of British grown strawberries has risen 80% in 2 years.
Or a bottle of supermarket "Italian" olive oil is mainly N African, with the Italian bit being picked by migrant labour. My family's crop is picked, processed and packed by a co-op, £30 a bottle retail.
可悲的是，这是消费者同意的事情。在我所在的地区，今年夏天有40%的农业职位空缺。超市有效地设定了价格，从而限制了工资，一旦价格太高，它们就会转而从国外进口。
举几个劳动力成本上升的例子：英国种植的草莓批发价在两年内上涨了80%。
或者超市里的一瓶“意大利”橄榄油主要产自非洲，其中仅有的“意大利”部分是由移民劳工采摘的。而我家的作物由一家合作社采摘、加工和包装，每瓶零售价30英镑。
Being cynical, that's something consumers agree with. In my region there were 40% unfilled vacancies in agriculture this summer. Supermarkets effectively set prices and so cap wages, once it's too expensive they buy from abroad.
As a couple of examples of labour cost uplift: the wholesale price of British grown strawberries has risen 80% in 2 years.
Or a bottle of supermarket "Italian" olive oil is mainly N African, with the Italian bit being picked by migrant labour. My family's crop is picked, processed and packed by a co-op, £30 a bottle retail.
可悲的是，这是消费者同意的事情。在我所在的地区，今年夏天有40%的农业职位空缺。超市有效地设定了价格，从而限制了工资，一旦价格太高，它们就会转而从国外进口。
举几个劳动力成本上升的例子：英国种植的草莓批发价在两年内上涨了80%。
或者超市里的一瓶“意大利”橄榄油主要产自非洲，其中仅有的“意大利”部分是由移民劳工采摘的。而我家的作物由一家合作社采摘、加工和包装，每瓶零售价30英镑。
Shaggy0291
I get you, but it's not strictly a question of markets. Our own agricultural sector is already propped up by subsidy. We simply cannot compete with Goliaths like the USA or continental Europe without it. Our beef, our milk our lamb, all of it is held up by the government. We acknowledge that protectionism for our agricultural sector is an essential issue of the national interest. If we're already committed to paying farmers on working tenancies, we can afford to pay the labourers they hire a decent wage with decent conditions.
我明白你的意思，但这不是严格意义上的市场问题。我们自己的农业已经靠补贴支撑起来了。没有补贴，我们根本无法与美国或欧洲大陆这样的巨人竞争。我们的牛肉，牛奶，羊肉，都被政府支撑着。我们承认，对我国农业领域的保护主义是国家利益的一个基本问题。如果我们已经承诺向农民支付工作租约，我们就有能力向他们雇佣的劳动者支付体面的工资和体面的条件。
I get you, but it's not strictly a question of markets. Our own agricultural sector is already propped up by subsidy. We simply cannot compete with Goliaths like the USA or continental Europe without it. Our beef, our milk our lamb, all of it is held up by the government. We acknowledge that protectionism for our agricultural sector is an essential issue of the national interest. If we're already committed to paying farmers on working tenancies, we can afford to pay the labourers they hire a decent wage with decent conditions.
我明白你的意思，但这不是严格意义上的市场问题。我们自己的农业已经靠补贴支撑起来了。没有补贴，我们根本无法与美国或欧洲大陆这样的巨人竞争。我们的牛肉，牛奶，羊肉，都被政府支撑着。我们承认，对我国农业领域的保护主义是国家利益的一个基本问题。如果我们已经承诺向农民支付工作租约，我们就有能力向他们雇佣的劳动者支付体面的工资和体面的条件。
lordnacho666
Ethnic restaurant workers is another one. If you speak a language or two you can find this out directly.
少数族裔餐馆工人是另一个问题。如果你会说一两种（他们的）语言，你就能直接发现这一点。
Ethnic restaurant workers is another one. If you speak a language or two you can find this out directly.
少数族裔餐馆工人是另一个问题。如果你会说一两种（他们的）语言，你就能直接发现这一点。
Shaggy0291
I can go further than that. A friend of mine has a Latvian fiancé. She was funneled into a less than minimum wage job with other Latvian girls working for a commercial baker, basically shit, monotonous factory work, and the boss sexually exploited whatever Latvian woman took his fancy. He only hired Latvian women and then made advances on them while holding their jobs over their heads. The boss found his wife that way, who now effectively functions like a "bottom bitch" for the other workers. Luckily for my friend's partner, she had him to fall back on. Not every eastern European immigrant is so lucky.
It shouldn't be this way. We shouldn't be letting this sort of thing happen right under our fucking noses. If we're serious about rights and freedoms, it has to apply to everyone who makes their home here. If not, freedom isn't a right, it's only a privilege.
我可以更进一步。我的一个朋友有一个拉脱维亚未婚妻。她和其他拉脱维亚女孩一起在一家商业面包店工作，工资低于最低标准，基本上是单调的工厂工作，老板对任何他喜欢的拉脱维亚女人都进行性剥削。他只雇佣拉脱维亚女性然后向她们示好，同时把她们的工作压在她们头上。老板就是这样找到他现任的妻子的，现在她在其他员工面前就像一个“底层biao子”。幸运的是，我朋友的伴侣可以依靠他。但并不是每个东欧移民都这么幸运。
不应该是这样的。我们不应该让这种事就在我们眼皮底下发生。如果我们认真对待权利和自由，它必须适用于在这里安家的每个人。如果不是，自由就不是一种权利，它只是一种特权。
I can go further than that. A friend of mine has a Latvian fiancé. She was funneled into a less than minimum wage job with other Latvian girls working for a commercial baker, basically shit, monotonous factory work, and the boss sexually exploited whatever Latvian woman took his fancy. He only hired Latvian women and then made advances on them while holding their jobs over their heads. The boss found his wife that way, who now effectively functions like a "bottom bitch" for the other workers. Luckily for my friend's partner, she had him to fall back on. Not every eastern European immigrant is so lucky.
It shouldn't be this way. We shouldn't be letting this sort of thing happen right under our fucking noses. If we're serious about rights and freedoms, it has to apply to everyone who makes their home here. If not, freedom isn't a right, it's only a privilege.
我可以更进一步。我的一个朋友有一个拉脱维亚未婚妻。她和其他拉脱维亚女孩一起在一家商业面包店工作，工资低于最低标准，基本上是单调的工厂工作，老板对任何他喜欢的拉脱维亚女人都进行性剥削。他只雇佣拉脱维亚女性然后向她们示好，同时把她们的工作压在她们头上。老板就是这样找到他现任的妻子的，现在她在其他员工面前就像一个“底层biao子”。幸运的是，我朋友的伴侣可以依靠他。但并不是每个东欧移民都这么幸运。
不应该是这样的。我们不应该让这种事就在我们眼皮底下发生。如果我们认真对待权利和自由，它必须适用于在这里安家的每个人。如果不是，自由就不是一种权利，它只是一种特权。
Hiberniciz
Why aren’t they being raided by government agencies daily in that case?
在这种情况下，为什么政府机构不每天搜查这些店呢？
Why aren’t they being raided by government agencies daily in that case?
在这种情况下，为什么政府机构不每天搜查这些店呢？
JazzersKetWig
Because we have a top heavy public sector and nothing like enough bodies on the ground to tackle an issue that extends to 10s of thousands of establishments. In terms of public interest and prosecution.... the thing about organized crime is ... it is organized.
This shit is what we should be transporting people to Rwanda for.
因为我们有一个顶层的沉重的公共部门，没有足够的机构来解决这个延伸到成千上万个机构的问题。在公共利益和检控方面……有组织犯罪的问题是……它是有组织的。
我们送人去卢旺达就是为了这个。
Because we have a top heavy public sector and nothing like enough bodies on the ground to tackle an issue that extends to 10s of thousands of establishments. In terms of public interest and prosecution.... the thing about organized crime is ... it is organized.
This shit is what we should be transporting people to Rwanda for.
因为我们有一个顶层的沉重的公共部门，没有足够的机构来解决这个延伸到成千上万个机构的问题。在公共利益和检控方面……有组织犯罪的问题是……它是有组织的。
我们送人去卢旺达就是为了这个。
SumRWanker41
When I was a kid, you wanted your car washed you got a robot to do it.
20 years on, you get 8 guys with a sponge to do it.
And people wonder why our productivity is dogshit. This is what mass immigration gets you.
Why invest in expensive machinery, or streamlining processes, or other efficiency measures when you can just hire someone on minimum wage (or less, illegally) to do some mind numbing task instead.
当我还是个孩子的时候，你想着将来洗车你得找个机器人来洗。
20年过去了，你找了8个拿着海绵擦的家伙。
人们想知道为什么我们的生产力是狗屎。这就是大规模移民给你带来的。
为什么要投资昂贵的机器，简化流程，或其他提高效率的措施，而不是雇佣一个最低工资（或更低，非法）的人来做一些令人麻木的工作呢。
When I was a kid, you wanted your car washed you got a robot to do it.
20 years on, you get 8 guys with a sponge to do it.
And people wonder why our productivity is dogshit. This is what mass immigration gets you.
Why invest in expensive machinery, or streamlining processes, or other efficiency measures when you can just hire someone on minimum wage (or less, illegally) to do some mind numbing task instead.
当我还是个孩子的时候，你想着将来洗车你得找个机器人来洗。
20年过去了，你找了8个拿着海绵擦的家伙。
人们想知道为什么我们的生产力是狗屎。这就是大规模移民给你带来的。
为什么要投资昂贵的机器，简化流程，或其他提高效率的措施，而不是雇佣一个最低工资（或更低，非法）的人来做一些令人麻木的工作呢。
DiscountLending
Lol, wtf is this take. There's a lot of issues with these sketchy car washes, but the core service isn't one of them. Nobody who a) Likes their car and b) Wants a good job done should be taking their car to a n automated car wash. They're awful things - that's why hand car washes have done so well
哈哈，这是什么玩意。这些作坊式的洗车店有很多问题，但核心服务不在其中。a)喜欢自己的车，b)想把车洗好的人不应该把车开到自动洗车房。自动洗车很糟糕——这就是为什么人工洗车发展得这么好
Lol, wtf is this take. There's a lot of issues with these sketchy car washes, but the core service isn't one of them. Nobody who a) Likes their car and b) Wants a good job done should be taking their car to a n automated car wash. They're awful things - that's why hand car washes have done so well
哈哈，这是什么玩意。这些作坊式的洗车店有很多问题，但核心服务不在其中。a)喜欢自己的车，b)想把车洗好的人不应该把车开到自动洗车房。自动洗车很糟糕——这就是为什么人工洗车发展得这么好
Beenreiving
Exactly If you actually like and value your car never ever take it near a machine wash
没错，如果你真的很喜欢你的车，也很珍惜你的车，永远不要把它带到自动洗车店附近
Exactly If you actually like and value your car never ever take it near a machine wash
没错，如果你真的很喜欢你的车，也很珍惜你的车，永远不要把它带到自动洗车店附近
boomerangchampion
Is this even still true? I've been machine washing my cars monthly for ten years and they've all looked fine
现在还是这样吗？十年来，我每个月都用自动洗车机洗我的车，它们看起来都很好
Is this even still true? I've been machine washing my cars monthly for ten years and they've all looked fine
现在还是这样吗？十年来，我每个月都用自动洗车机洗我的车，它们看起来都很好
RaspberryCai
Machine washes are decent nowadays, and most hand car washes are at least as shit as any machine wash, often wiping your car down with gritty cloths which have been used for multiple vehicles.
I take my car to a machine wash but that's because somebody keyed all down the side of it. The machine wash cleans the underside of my car which is important in the winter.
Touchless machine washes also exist now which are even better than typical machine washes or hand washes as there's no brushes touching your car.
Majority of machine washes also jet the underside of your car too which handwashes typically don't do, so they're better if you value the underbody of your car come winter. Of course, washing it yourself beats all of them (if you do it properly.)
现在的机洗是不错的，大多数人工洗车至少和任何机洗一样糟糕，经常用磨砂的布擦拭你的车，这些布已经擦过多辆车了。
我把车送去机洗，但那是因为有人在车的侧面划了字。洗车机能清洗我汽车的底部，这在冬天很重要。
现在也有非接触式机洗，甚至比典型的机洗或手洗更好，因为没有刷子接触你的车。
大多数机洗也会冲洗汽车的底部，而手洗通常不会这样做，所以如果你在冬天重视汽车的底部，那么机洗会更好。当然，如果你洗得好，你自己洗就能解决所有问题。
Machine washes are decent nowadays, and most hand car washes are at least as shit as any machine wash, often wiping your car down with gritty cloths which have been used for multiple vehicles.
I take my car to a machine wash but that's because somebody keyed all down the side of it. The machine wash cleans the underside of my car which is important in the winter.
Touchless machine washes also exist now which are even better than typical machine washes or hand washes as there's no brushes touching your car.
Majority of machine washes also jet the underside of your car too which handwashes typically don't do, so they're better if you value the underbody of your car come winter. Of course, washing it yourself beats all of them (if you do it properly.)
现在的机洗是不错的，大多数人工洗车至少和任何机洗一样糟糕，经常用磨砂的布擦拭你的车，这些布已经擦过多辆车了。
我把车送去机洗，但那是因为有人在车的侧面划了字。洗车机能清洗我汽车的底部，这在冬天很重要。
现在也有非接触式机洗，甚至比典型的机洗或手洗更好，因为没有刷子接触你的车。
大多数机洗也会冲洗汽车的底部，而手洗通常不会这样做，所以如果你在冬天重视汽车的底部，那么机洗会更好。当然，如果你洗得好，你自己洗就能解决所有问题。
SumRWanker41
They're awful because there's no R&D going into them. You think a machine that washes a car well, without damaging it, is beyond the abilities of humans to create?
Can land a man on the moon in the 60's, and land a rocket upright in the 2020's, can create a large hadron collider to research the building blocks of our universe, and can create machines that fly hundreds of people at 550mph, thousands of miles..
A robot to wash cars though? Don't be stupid. That's far too difficult! Akin to alchemy!
它们很糟糕，因为没有进行研发。你认为一台能洗好车而不损坏它的机器是人类无法创造出来的吗？
可以在60年代把人送上月球，可以在2020年让火箭垂直着陆，可以创造一个大型强子对撞机来研究我们宇宙的组成部分，可以创造以550英里/小时的速度飞行数百人的机器，可以飞行数千英里。
一个洗车机器人搞不出来？别傻了。这太难了！类似于炼金术！（反讽）
They're awful because there's no R&D going into them. You think a machine that washes a car well, without damaging it, is beyond the abilities of humans to create?
Can land a man on the moon in the 60's, and land a rocket upright in the 2020's, can create a large hadron collider to research the building blocks of our universe, and can create machines that fly hundreds of people at 550mph, thousands of miles..
A robot to wash cars though? Don't be stupid. That's far too difficult! Akin to alchemy!
它们很糟糕，因为没有进行研发。你认为一台能洗好车而不损坏它的机器是人类无法创造出来的吗？
可以在60年代把人送上月球，可以在2020年让火箭垂直着陆，可以创造一个大型强子对撞机来研究我们宇宙的组成部分，可以创造以550英里/小时的速度飞行数百人的机器，可以飞行数千英里。
一个洗车机器人搞不出来？别傻了。这太难了！类似于炼金术！（反讽）
DiscountLending
Nice goalpost move - I didn't say it was impossible, I said the machines were shit and were 20 years ago too. Its not a backwards step to pay somebody for labour - the market existed because the automated solutions were crap.
漂亮的偷换概念——我没说这是不可能的，我说的是那些机器都是垃圾，而且还是20年前的东西。支付劳动力不是倒退——人工市场依然存在是因为自动化解决方案是垃圾。
Nice goalpost move - I didn't say it was impossible, I said the machines were shit and were 20 years ago too. Its not a backwards step to pay somebody for labour - the market existed because the automated solutions were crap.
漂亮的偷换概念——我没说这是不可能的，我说的是那些机器都是垃圾，而且还是20年前的东西。支付劳动力不是倒退——人工市场依然存在是因为自动化解决方案是垃圾。
OfficialTomCruise
I could never go to a manual car wash without feeling like someone is being exploited. They're just so shady. Yet in my town people queue up for 15+ minutes to get their car washed, it's crazy.
This is what happens when wages stagnate for so long. Prices can't increase, people don't want to do manual labour for a shit wage, and so the most profitable option is using illegal labour.
Automatic car washes still exist and they're cheap! £1.50 for a wash by me. Maybe they're not as good, but I can leave with a clean conscience as well as a clean car. They're just a big investment for the operator.
我每次去手动洗车都觉得有人被剥削了。他们太可疑了。然而，在我的家乡，人们为了洗车要排15分钟以上的队，这太疯狂了。
这就是工资长期停滞的结果。价格不能上涨，人们不想为了微薄的工资做体力劳动，所以最有利可图的选择就是使用非法劳工。
自动洗车机仍然存在，而且很便宜！我洗一次要1.5英镑。也许它们没有那么好，但我可以问心无愧地离开，也可以开上一辆干净的车。只是它们是运营商的一笔大投资（机器成本高）。
I could never go to a manual car wash without feeling like someone is being exploited. They're just so shady. Yet in my town people queue up for 15+ minutes to get their car washed, it's crazy.
This is what happens when wages stagnate for so long. Prices can't increase, people don't want to do manual labour for a shit wage, and so the most profitable option is using illegal labour.
Automatic car washes still exist and they're cheap! £1.50 for a wash by me. Maybe they're not as good, but I can leave with a clean conscience as well as a clean car. They're just a big investment for the operator.
我每次去手动洗车都觉得有人被剥削了。他们太可疑了。然而，在我的家乡，人们为了洗车要排15分钟以上的队，这太疯狂了。
这就是工资长期停滞的结果。价格不能上涨，人们不想为了微薄的工资做体力劳动，所以最有利可图的选择就是使用非法劳工。
自动洗车机仍然存在，而且很便宜！我洗一次要1.5英镑。也许它们没有那么好，但我可以问心无愧地离开，也可以开上一辆干净的车。只是它们是运营商的一笔大投资（机器成本高）。
Better-Pie-993
Is anyone surprised by this?
People are washing cars trying to make an extra few quid on the side.....
Fair play to them I say, honestly. Immigrants who can't access benefits and need to make some cash to live but can't get a regulated job, no problem at all.
If you try and regulate this industry, make it so that it costs want 20quid to get the car washed? No thanks I'll go through the power washer for £3
Sometimes these things need to be ran without regulation otherwise they couldn't function.
As long as people are not being forced to work there against there will then I honestly think its fine. I always look at it as extra cash for someone who wouldn't otherwise have it rather than a regular 100% job for someone.
有人对此感到惊讶吗？
人们正在洗车，试图在一边多赚几英镑……
我对他们说，这是公平的。对那些无法获得福利，需要赚点钱生活，但又找不到正规工作的移民，这根本不是问题。
如果你试着监管这个行业，让洗车的成本达到20英镑？不用了，谢谢，3英镑我就改用电动洗车机了
有时这些东西需要在没有监管的情况下运行，否则它们就无法发挥作用。
只要人们不是被迫在那里工作的，我真的认为这就很好。我总是把它看作是那些本来会没有这份工作的人的“额外收入”，而不是一份正常的100%工作。
Is anyone surprised by this?
People are washing cars trying to make an extra few quid on the side.....
Fair play to them I say, honestly. Immigrants who can't access benefits and need to make some cash to live but can't get a regulated job, no problem at all.
If you try and regulate this industry, make it so that it costs want 20quid to get the car washed? No thanks I'll go through the power washer for £3
Sometimes these things need to be ran without regulation otherwise they couldn't function.
As long as people are not being forced to work there against there will then I honestly think its fine. I always look at it as extra cash for someone who wouldn't otherwise have it rather than a regular 100% job for someone.
有人对此感到惊讶吗？
人们正在洗车，试图在一边多赚几英镑……
我对他们说，这是公平的。对那些无法获得福利，需要赚点钱生活，但又找不到正规工作的移民，这根本不是问题。
如果你试着监管这个行业，让洗车的成本达到20英镑？不用了，谢谢，3英镑我就改用电动洗车机了
有时这些东西需要在没有监管的情况下运行，否则它们就无法发挥作用。
只要人们不是被迫在那里工作的，我真的认为这就很好。我总是把它看作是那些本来会没有这份工作的人的“额外收入”，而不是一份正常的100%工作。
Toastlove
Can imagine Hair Dressers are the same, there are over 10 in less than 1km of the High street in my town now.
可以想象发型师行业也是一样的，现在在我所在的城市，不到1公里的高街上就有10多家理发店。
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Can imagine Hair Dressers are the same, there are over 10 in less than 1km of the High street in my town now.
可以想象发型师行业也是一样的，现在在我所在的城市，不到1公里的高街上就有10多家理发店。
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Anonymous-eric-42601
Nail places also fall into this category
那些美甲的也属于这一类
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Nail places also fall into this category
那些美甲的也属于这一类
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madpiano
A lot of them operate on a self employed basis. The nail technicians pay a fee for their station but keep all the money people are paying. Or they pay a percentage fee to the salon owner. I have a Vietnamese one close to me and the girl that does my nails grew up in the UK and is a student at University right now. She just pays a daily fee for the days she works and keeps what customers pay.
他们中的很多人都是个体户。美甲师为他们的美甲店支付一定的费用，但把顾客付的钱都收起来。或者他们向沙龙老板支付一定比例的费用。我身边有一个越南人，这个给我做指甲的女孩在英国长大，现在是一名大学生。她只支付工作天数的每日费用，并保留客户支付的费用。
A lot of them operate on a self employed basis. The nail technicians pay a fee for their station but keep all the money people are paying. Or they pay a percentage fee to the salon owner. I have a Vietnamese one close to me and the girl that does my nails grew up in the UK and is a student at University right now. She just pays a daily fee for the days she works and keeps what customers pay.
他们中的很多人都是个体户。美甲师为他们的美甲店支付一定的费用，但把顾客付的钱都收起来。或者他们向沙龙老板支付一定比例的费用。我身边有一个越南人，这个给我做指甲的女孩在英国长大，现在是一名大学生。她只支付工作天数的每日费用，并保留客户支付的费用。
bosso_biz
A carwash near me has a girl no more than 14 working there helping with drying and cleaning interiors. She’s so small, literally a child. At first I thought, idk, maybe she’s there to help on this particular day for some reason.. but no; she’s always there with an older woman, presumably her mother
我附近的一家洗车行有一个不到14岁的女孩在那里帮忙烘干和清洁内饰。她那么小，简直就是个孩子。起初我想，也许她在这个特殊的日子里是出于某种原因来帮忙的。但不是；她总是和一个年长的女人在一起洗车，可能是她母亲
A carwash near me has a girl no more than 14 working there helping with drying and cleaning interiors. She’s so small, literally a child. At first I thought, idk, maybe she’s there to help on this particular day for some reason.. but no; she’s always there with an older woman, presumably her mother
我附近的一家洗车行有一个不到14岁的女孩在那里帮忙烘干和清洁内饰。她那么小，简直就是个孩子。起初我想，也许她在这个特殊的日子里是出于某种原因来帮忙的。但不是；她总是和一个年长的女人在一起洗车，可能是她母亲
tough_guy_toby
How is this even possible? Surely can't the police literally just drive from one to another collecting the fines? It's not like it's easy to hide either
这怎么可能呢？难道警察就不能从一个地方开到另一个地方去收罚款吗？想要隐藏起来也不容易啊
How is this even possible? Surely can't the police literally just drive from one to another collecting the fines? It's not like it's easy to hide either
这怎么可能呢？难道警察就不能从一个地方开到另一个地方去收罚款吗？想要隐藏起来也不容易啊
steveholtismymother
They don't want to do anything about it. This is a workforce that is easy to exploit, makes middle-class life easier and someone rich.
Similar thing with EU workers before Brexit – perfectly possible to make people register and kick them out if they don't find work within three months. Yet the UK chose to do nothing and chose to not implement any of the safeguards that were available to managing people flows.
This is a chosen government policy. I am sure there's more to it than my guesses at the reasons.
他们什么都不想做。这是一群很容易被剥削的劳动力，以让中产阶级的生活更容易，让一些人变得富有。
英国脱欧前的欧盟工人也是如此——完全有可能让人们登记，如果他们在三个月内找不到工作，就把他们赶出去。然而，英国主动选择什么都不做，选择不实施任何可用于管理人员流动的保障措施。
这是政府选定的政策。我相信，除了我猜测的原因之外，还有更多的原因。
They don't want to do anything about it. This is a workforce that is easy to exploit, makes middle-class life easier and someone rich.
Similar thing with EU workers before Brexit – perfectly possible to make people register and kick them out if they don't find work within three months. Yet the UK chose to do nothing and chose to not implement any of the safeguards that were available to managing people flows.
This is a chosen government policy. I am sure there's more to it than my guesses at the reasons.
他们什么都不想做。这是一群很容易被剥削的劳动力，以让中产阶级的生活更容易，让一些人变得富有。
英国脱欧前的欧盟工人也是如此——完全有可能让人们登记，如果他们在三个月内找不到工作，就把他们赶出去。然而，英国主动选择什么都不做，选择不实施任何可用于管理人员流动的保障措施。
这是政府选定的政策。我相信，除了我猜测的原因之外，还有更多的原因。
NoLoGGic
There’s a dodgy hand car wash next to a bridge near where I grew up. It’s still there and has been there for over 15 years.
In all of those 15 years, I can count on one hand the amount of times I’ve seen a single car in there, let alone if it was the people working there or customers.
When I saw breaking bad I thought it was just a gag that car washes can easily be dodgy businesses, clearly not…
在我长大的地方附近的一座桥旁边有家可疑的手洗车行。它还在那里，已经在那里超过15年了。
在这15年里，我在那里看到一辆车的次数一只手都数不过来，更不用说里面的工作人员或顾客了。
当我看到《绝命毒师》的时候，我以为这只是一个笑话，说洗车很容易是一个狡猾的行业，显然不是……
There’s a dodgy hand car wash next to a bridge near where I grew up. It’s still there and has been there for over 15 years.
In all of those 15 years, I can count on one hand the amount of times I’ve seen a single car in there, let alone if it was the people working there or customers.
When I saw breaking bad I thought it was just a gag that car washes can easily be dodgy businesses, clearly not…
在我长大的地方附近的一座桥旁边有家可疑的手洗车行。它还在那里，已经在那里超过15年了。
在这15年里，我在那里看到一辆车的次数一只手都数不过来，更不用说里面的工作人员或顾客了。
当我看到《绝命毒师》的时候，我以为这只是一个笑话，说洗车很容易是一个狡猾的行业，显然不是……
Anom04
You never see White British Uber drivers or Food Delivery drivers because those jobs are also heavily dominated by immigrants
It’s because British people don’t want to do labourers jobs. That’s why 90% of hand car washes employ workers illegally
你从来没有见过英国白人优步司机或送餐司机，因为这些工作也主要由移民来干
这是因为英国人不想做体力活。这就是为什么90%的洗车店非法雇佣工人
You never see White British Uber drivers or Food Delivery drivers because those jobs are also heavily dominated by immigrants
It’s because British people don’t want to do labourers jobs. That’s why 90% of hand car washes employ workers illegally
你从来没有见过英国白人优步司机或送餐司机，因为这些工作也主要由移民来干
这是因为英国人不想做体力活。这就是为什么90%的洗车店非法雇佣工人
aegroti
While I agree a large amount of immigrants do food delivery I think it's disingenuous to say they're dominated by illegal ones.
It's dominated by immigrants if they're looking for work and aren't highly educated and don't speak (or aren't confident in speaking) English well. Uber and Just Eat don't require anything like a CV for example. It's just ID, DBS check and bank account pretty much but I feel like they're relatively thorough in checking right to work these days.
any restaurant employing their own personal delivery driver, aka any potential cash in hand businesses, might not be as stringent though of course.
虽然我同意有大量移民做外卖，但我认为说这些岗位被非法移民主导是不诚实的。
如果他们正在找工作，没有受过高等教育，不会说英语（或对说英语没有信心），那么这些岗位就会由他们来主导。比如Uber和Just Eat就不需要简历之类的东西。只要身份证、无犯罪证明和银行账户就可以了，不过我觉得他们现在在检查工作权利方面相对彻底了。
当然，任何雇佣自己的私人外卖员的餐厅，也就是任何潜在的现金业务，可能都不会那么严格。
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While I agree a large amount of immigrants do food delivery I think it's disingenuous to say they're dominated by illegal ones.
It's dominated by immigrants if they're looking for work and aren't highly educated and don't speak (or aren't confident in speaking) English well. Uber and Just Eat don't require anything like a CV for example. It's just ID, DBS check and bank account pretty much but I feel like they're relatively thorough in checking right to work these days.
any restaurant employing their own personal delivery driver, aka any potential cash in hand businesses, might not be as stringent though of course.
虽然我同意有大量移民做外卖，但我认为说这些岗位被非法移民主导是不诚实的。
如果他们正在找工作，没有受过高等教育，不会说英语（或对说英语没有信心），那么这些岗位就会由他们来主导。比如Uber和Just Eat就不需要简历之类的东西。只要身份证、无犯罪证明和银行账户就可以了，不过我觉得他们现在在检查工作权利方面相对彻底了。
当然，任何雇佣自己的私人外卖员的餐厅，也就是任何潜在的现金业务，可能都不会那么严格。
原创翻译：龙腾网 https://www.ltaaa.cn 转载请注明出处
Informal-Comfort-231
Absolutely rife in my area ( near Gillingham UK) literally every car wash not a single person speaks English and compete with each other with obscenely low prices
在我所在的地区（英国吉林厄姆附近），几乎每个洗车店都没有一个人会说英语，而且彼此之间的竞争价格低得令人发指
Absolutely rife in my area ( near Gillingham UK) literally every car wash not a single person speaks English and compete with each other with obscenely low prices
在我所在的地区（英国吉林厄姆附近），几乎每个洗车店都没有一个人会说英语，而且彼此之间的竞争价格低得令人发指
scousethief
How about the 'corner shops' selling fake cigarettes, alcohol to minors and imported prescxtion drugs from under the counter ???.
那那些向未成年人出售假烟、假酒和非法进口处方药的“街角商店”又怎么讲？？？
How about the 'corner shops' selling fake cigarettes, alcohol to minors and imported prescxtion drugs from under the counter ???.
那那些向未成年人出售假烟、假酒和非法进口处方药的“街角商店”又怎么讲？？？
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