为什么上世纪50年代、60年代和70年代的美国人都那么瘦?似乎比现在瘦得多。
正文翻译
In the 1950’s this was your weekday dinner. A portion of stewed meat, one of carrots, one of broccoli, and a portion of mashed potatoes. Maybe you would also have a bowl of soup as a starter or a small dessert, often the dessert was a piece of fruit or a fruit salad. Adults would have water, or a small glass of beer or wine, or maybe a cup of coffee with the meal, children would have water or unsweetened milk. You also ate food three times per day: breakfast, lunch, and dinner (children also likely had a midafternoon snack of a piece of fruit or a small sandwich).
在20世纪50年代，这是你的工作日晚餐。一份炖肉，一份胡萝卜，一份西兰花，一份土豆泥。也许你也会吃一碗汤作为开胃菜或着是小甜点，通常甜点是一片水果或水果沙拉。成年人会喝水，或者一小杯啤酒或葡萄酒，或者一杯咖啡，孩子们会喝水或不加糖的牛奶。你每天也吃三次食物:早餐、午餐和晚餐(孩子们也可能在下午吃一片水果或一个小三明治作为零食)。
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When you were thirsty outside meals, your everyday you would reach for the water tap, not for the soda bottle in the fridge. Soda was available, but you would commonly have it on Saturday afternoon, when you were out with your boyfriend, or while mom shopped for groceries once a week. Similarly, ice cream was there, but a small cone was a coveted weekly treat, instead of a tub being a nightly habit.
当你在就餐时间以外口渴时，你每天都会去水龙头那里取水，而不是去冰箱里找苏打水瓶。苏打水是可以买到的，但你通常会在周六下午喝，那是当你和男朋友出去的时候，或者妈妈每周去买一次杂货的时候。同样，冰淇淋也有，但一小筒冰淇淋是每周梦寐以求的享受，而不是每晚的习惯。
People had cars, but the most common solution was a single car per family. The adults had a driving licence, but the car was brought out for family trips or if you had a long journey to make. For the rest, people walked and used bikes if possible, instead of driving everywhere. Even when you drove, you would commonly park somewhere convenient and continue on foot. Besides, far more people had physically demanding jobs instead of sitting behind a computer screen all day.
人们都有车，但最常见的方案是每家一辆车。成年人都有驾驶执照，但汽车是为家庭旅行或长途旅行而使用的。剩下的时间，人们尽可能步行或骑自行车，而不是开车去任何地方。即使你开车，你通常也会把车停在方便的地方，然后继续步行。此外，更多的人从事体力劳动，而不是整天坐在电脑屏幕前。
Alice Twain
It’s fairly easy.
这相当容易回答。
It’s fairly easy.
这相当容易回答。
In the 1950’s this was your weekday dinner. A portion of stewed meat, one of carrots, one of broccoli, and a portion of mashed potatoes. Maybe you would also have a bowl of soup as a starter or a small dessert, often the dessert was a piece of fruit or a fruit salad. Adults would have water, or a small glass of beer or wine, or maybe a cup of coffee with the meal, children would have water or unsweetened milk. You also ate food three times per day: breakfast, lunch, and dinner (children also likely had a midafternoon snack of a piece of fruit or a small sandwich).
在20世纪50年代，这是你的工作日晚餐。一份炖肉，一份胡萝卜，一份西兰花，一份土豆泥。也许你也会吃一碗汤作为开胃菜或着是小甜点，通常甜点是一片水果或水果沙拉。成年人会喝水，或者一小杯啤酒或葡萄酒，或者一杯咖啡，孩子们会喝水或不加糖的牛奶。你每天也吃三次食物:早餐、午餐和晚餐(孩子们也可能在下午吃一片水果或一个小三明治作为零食)。
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When you were thirsty outside meals, your everyday you would reach for the water tap, not for the soda bottle in the fridge. Soda was available, but you would commonly have it on Saturday afternoon, when you were out with your boyfriend, or while mom shopped for groceries once a week. Similarly, ice cream was there, but a small cone was a coveted weekly treat, instead of a tub being a nightly habit.
当你在就餐时间以外口渴时，你每天都会去水龙头那里取水，而不是去冰箱里找苏打水瓶。苏打水是可以买到的，但你通常会在周六下午喝，那是当你和男朋友出去的时候，或者妈妈每周去买一次杂货的时候。同样，冰淇淋也有，但一小筒冰淇淋是每周梦寐以求的享受，而不是每晚的习惯。
People had cars, but the most common solution was a single car per family. The adults had a driving licence, but the car was brought out for family trips or if you had a long journey to make. For the rest, people walked and used bikes if possible, instead of driving everywhere. Even when you drove, you would commonly park somewhere convenient and continue on foot. Besides, far more people had physically demanding jobs instead of sitting behind a computer screen all day.
人们都有车，但最常见的方案是每家一辆车。成年人都有驾驶执照，但汽车是为家庭旅行或长途旅行而使用的。剩下的时间，人们尽可能步行或骑自行车，而不是开车去任何地方。即使你开车，你通常也会把车停在方便的地方，然后继续步行。此外，更多的人从事体力劳动，而不是整天坐在电脑屏幕前。
What suprisingly happens when you eat less and healthier food, and you walk or bike more instead of driving is that you eat less calories, burn more, and you don’t gain weight. Nowadays too many Americans snack through the day, drink soda as a daily habit, and spend the day sitting either in the car or behind a desk. There are more calories in and less calories out, and people get fat.
令人惊讶的是，当你吃更少、更健康的食物，多走路或骑自行车而不是开车时，你摄入的卡路里更少，燃烧的更多，体重也不会增加。如今，太多的美国人整天吃零食，喝苏打水成为一种日常习惯，整天不是坐在车里就是坐在桌子后面。摄入的卡路里更多，消耗的卡路里更少，人们就会变胖。
令人惊讶的是，当你吃更少、更健康的食物，多走路或骑自行车而不是开车时，你摄入的卡路里更少，燃烧的更多，体重也不会增加。如今，太多的美国人整天吃零食，喝苏打水成为一种日常习惯，整天不是坐在车里就是坐在桌子后面。摄入的卡路里更多，消耗的卡路里更少，人们就会变胖。
评论翻译
Matt Hill
The advertising industry spends billions of dollars trying to convince us that it's normal to eat high calorie food with no nutritional value every day.
广告业花费数十亿美元试图说服我们，每天吃没有营养价值的高热量食物是正常的。
The advertising industry spends billions of dollars trying to convince us that it's normal to eat high calorie food with no nutritional value every day.
广告业花费数十亿美元试图说服我们，每天吃没有营养价值的高热量食物是正常的。
Dylan Monaghan to Matt Hill
Exactly. The nutritional value of pop tarts is low while the caloric (mostly sugar) value is high. It's like eating a cardboard made out of sugar with sugar coating and color and/or flavor of your choice.
Nice.
Even the "real" food is now bereft of nutritional value. Carrots today have less nutrition than an equally sized carrot from my youth.
Today that carrot It is hardier, more orange and more uniform is shape and size …. But with less of the nutrients we expect from a carrot.
完全正确。流行甜果馅饼的营养价值很低，而热量(主要是糖)却很高。这就像吃一块有糖衣和你选择的颜色和/或味道的糖做的纸板。
好了。
即使是“真正的”食物现在也失去了营养价值。今天的胡萝卜比我年轻时的胡萝卜营养要少。
今天的胡萝卜更耐久，更橙色，形状和大小更均匀....但胡萝卜所含的营养成分较少。
Exactly. The nutritional value of pop tarts is low while the caloric (mostly sugar) value is high. It's like eating a cardboard made out of sugar with sugar coating and color and/or flavor of your choice.
Nice.
Even the "real" food is now bereft of nutritional value. Carrots today have less nutrition than an equally sized carrot from my youth.
Today that carrot It is hardier, more orange and more uniform is shape and size …. But with less of the nutrients we expect from a carrot.
完全正确。流行甜果馅饼的营养价值很低，而热量(主要是糖)却很高。这就像吃一块有糖衣和你选择的颜色和/或味道的糖做的纸板。
好了。
即使是“真正的”食物现在也失去了营养价值。今天的胡萝卜比我年轻时的胡萝卜营养要少。
今天的胡萝卜更耐久，更橙色，形状和大小更均匀....但胡萝卜所含的营养成分较少。
Ropeburn to Dylan Monaghan
Your general idea is right, however there's one big problem: calories are nutrition.
I've seen this mistake made far too often — only counting vitamins, minerals and fiber as “nutrients", while infact they are merely micronutrients. Carbs, proteins and fats are, by contrast, macronutrients that supply the actual energy and necessary biomass.
That distinction is important. The human body needs both in adequate amounts. It's simply stupid and outlandish to only count micronutrients as nutrients at all.
你的想法大致是对的，但有一个大问题：卡路里也是营养素。
我经常看到这样的错误——只把维生素、矿物质和纤维素算作“营养素”，而事实上它们只是微量营养素。相比之下，碳水化合物、蛋白质和脂肪是提供实际能量和必要生物量的大量营养素。
这种区别很重要。人体需要足够量的这两类物质。只把微量营养素算作营养素是愚蠢而偏颇的。
Your general idea is right, however there's one big problem: calories are nutrition.
I've seen this mistake made far too often — only counting vitamins, minerals and fiber as “nutrients", while infact they are merely micronutrients. Carbs, proteins and fats are, by contrast, macronutrients that supply the actual energy and necessary biomass.
That distinction is important. The human body needs both in adequate amounts. It's simply stupid and outlandish to only count micronutrients as nutrients at all.
你的想法大致是对的，但有一个大问题：卡路里也是营养素。
我经常看到这样的错误——只把维生素、矿物质和纤维素算作“营养素”，而事实上它们只是微量营养素。相比之下，碳水化合物、蛋白质和脂肪是提供实际能量和必要生物量的大量营养素。
这种区别很重要。人体需要足够量的这两类物质。只把微量营养素算作营养素是愚蠢而偏颇的。
Eugene Cho to Matt Hill
It has nutritional value by definition if it's high calorie, the issue is that unless you are burning those calories productively like an athlete in training, your body is going to store all that extra caloric energy… as fat.
从定义上讲，高卡路里食物是有营养价值的，但问题是，除非你像训练中的运动员那样有效地燃烧这些卡路里，否则你的身体会以脂肪的形式储存所有额外的热量。
It has nutritional value by definition if it's high calorie, the issue is that unless you are burning those calories productively like an athlete in training, your body is going to store all that extra caloric energy… as fat.
从定义上讲，高卡路里食物是有营养价值的，但问题是，除非你像训练中的运动员那样有效地燃烧这些卡路里，否则你的身体会以脂肪的形式储存所有额外的热量。
Arnold to Eugene Cho
No, it has no nutritional value because it is empty calories. You’re a doctor and you state something as absurd as pop tarts have some nutritional value? Truly unbelievable how doctors are trained today.
What you want to say is it has caloric value but not nutritional value. Then qualify that by noting that that type of food leads to diabetes with the refined carbs and sugars present in it. For the 1 in a million readers who are unaware of that.
不，它没有营养价值，因为它是空卡路里。你是一个医生，却说出一些荒谬的话，说流行甜果馅饼有营养价值?真是难以置信，现在的医生是怎么训练出来的。
你想说的是它有热量价值但没有营养价值。然后应该指出，这种类型的食物会导致糖尿病，因为其中含有精制碳水化合物和糖。这是为那些百万分之一的不知道这一点的阅读者准备的。
No, it has no nutritional value because it is empty calories. You’re a doctor and you state something as absurd as pop tarts have some nutritional value? Truly unbelievable how doctors are trained today.
What you want to say is it has caloric value but not nutritional value. Then qualify that by noting that that type of food leads to diabetes with the refined carbs and sugars present in it. For the 1 in a million readers who are unaware of that.
不，它没有营养价值，因为它是空卡路里。你是一个医生，却说出一些荒谬的话，说流行甜果馅饼有营养价值?真是难以置信，现在的医生是怎么训练出来的。
你想说的是它有热量价值但没有营养价值。然后应该指出，这种类型的食物会导致糖尿病，因为其中含有精制碳水化合物和糖。这是为那些百万分之一的不知道这一点的阅读者准备的。
Mike
I have around 18% bodyfat at the moment and its amazing how many people will ask me health advice on working out and lifting weights or cardio, but then think calories in and calories out is made up bs haha. Its not hard people they even have apps to help you count your calories like mynetdiary.
我现在大约有18%的体脂率，令人惊讶的是，有许多人会问我关于锻炼、举重或有氧运动的健康建议，但后来认为摄入和消耗的卡路里都可以依据葡萄糖计算，哈哈。这并不难，他们甚至有应用程序来帮助你计算你的卡路里，比如mynetdiary（一款卡路里管理app）。
I have around 18% bodyfat at the moment and its amazing how many people will ask me health advice on working out and lifting weights or cardio, but then think calories in and calories out is made up bs haha. Its not hard people they even have apps to help you count your calories like mynetdiary.
我现在大约有18%的体脂率，令人惊讶的是，有许多人会问我关于锻炼、举重或有氧运动的健康建议，但后来认为摄入和消耗的卡路里都可以依据葡萄糖计算，哈哈。这并不难，他们甚至有应用程序来帮助你计算你的卡路里，比如mynetdiary（一款卡路里管理app）。
Eldor Werth to Mike
I genuinely think there's no reason to be fat in 2023. We have so much technology to help us, and we have many solutions. Yet somehow, people choose to be the size of cows. They'll scarf down 55 big macs in an hour and tell you how hard it is being physically fit.
我真的认为在2023年没有理由变胖。我们有很多技术来帮助我们，我们也有很多解决方案。然而，不知何故，人们选择变成牛的体型大小。他们会在一小时内吞下55个巨无霸，并告诉你保持身体健康有多难。
I genuinely think there's no reason to be fat in 2023. We have so much technology to help us, and we have many solutions. Yet somehow, people choose to be the size of cows. They'll scarf down 55 big macs in an hour and tell you how hard it is being physically fit.
我真的认为在2023年没有理由变胖。我们有很多技术来帮助我们，我们也有很多解决方案。然而，不知何故，人们选择变成牛的体型大小。他们会在一小时内吞下55个巨无霸，并告诉你保持身体健康有多难。
Lasse Enevoldsen to Eldor Werth
But the healthy choice is not always there.
In quite a few schools, fastfood chains suply school dinner for the kids. You can choose between burger, fries or nuggets. Maybe a carrot on the side if you are lucky. And wash it down with soda.
Also, there are this thing called “food deserts”. This is larger areas where fresh produce is simply unavailable. You can only buy canned and processed food. No fresh veggies or fruit.
Also, a lot of people can’t cook. They never learn it at home, or in school. It is a bit like being illiterate.
但健康的选择并不总是存在。
在不少学校，快餐连锁店为孩子们提供学校晚餐。您可以选择汉堡、薯条或鸡块。如果幸运的话，也许旁边还有一根胡萝卜。然后用苏打水洗干净。
此外，还有一种叫做“食物沙漠”的东西。这是根本无法获得新鲜农产品的大片区域。您只能购买罐头和加工食品。没有新鲜蔬菜或水果。
另外，很多人不会做饭。他们从不在家里或学校学习那个。这有点像文盲。
But the healthy choice is not always there.
In quite a few schools, fastfood chains suply school dinner for the kids. You can choose between burger, fries or nuggets. Maybe a carrot on the side if you are lucky. And wash it down with soda.
Also, there are this thing called “food deserts”. This is larger areas where fresh produce is simply unavailable. You can only buy canned and processed food. No fresh veggies or fruit.
Also, a lot of people can’t cook. They never learn it at home, or in school. It is a bit like being illiterate.
但健康的选择并不总是存在。
在不少学校，快餐连锁店为孩子们提供学校晚餐。您可以选择汉堡、薯条或鸡块。如果幸运的话，也许旁边还有一根胡萝卜。然后用苏打水洗干净。
此外，还有一种叫做“食物沙漠”的东西。这是根本无法获得新鲜农产品的大片区域。您只能购买罐头和加工食品。没有新鲜蔬菜或水果。
另外，很多人不会做饭。他们从不在家里或学校学习那个。这有点像文盲。
McKinley Brooks Morton to Eldor Werth
First off, not everyone lives in the same socioeconomic bracket as you and may not have access to technology that will without a doubt make them lose weight.
And, many people suffer from medical issues that have no bearing on diet.
I agree that proper diet and exercise are important but assuming that this holds true for 100% of people with weight problems is just false.
首先，并非每个人都与您生活在相同的社会经济阶层，并且可能无法获得毫无疑问能让他们减肥的技术。
而且，许多人患有与饮食无关的医疗问题。
我同意适当的饮食和锻炼很重要，但认为这对100%有体重问题的人都适用是错误的。
First off, not everyone lives in the same socioeconomic bracket as you and may not have access to technology that will without a doubt make them lose weight.
And, many people suffer from medical issues that have no bearing on diet.
I agree that proper diet and exercise are important but assuming that this holds true for 100% of people with weight problems is just false.
首先，并非每个人都与您生活在相同的社会经济阶层，并且可能无法获得毫无疑问能让他们减肥的技术。
而且，许多人患有与饮食无关的医疗问题。
我同意适当的饮食和锻炼很重要，但认为这对100%有体重问题的人都适用是错误的。
Jenny Peters to McKinley Brooks Morton
Bullshit, that medical reason probably accounts for less than half a percent of obese people. There are not many obese people in poor countries.
胡说，这种医学原因可能只占肥胖人群的不到0.5%。在贫穷国家，肥胖的人并不多。
Bullshit, that medical reason probably accounts for less than half a percent of obese people. There are not many obese people in poor countries.
胡说，这种医学原因可能只占肥胖人群的不到0.5%。在贫穷国家，肥胖的人并不多。
Helen Sanders to Jenny Peters
You are probably not aware that some medications make people gain weight, especially ones for autoimmune disorders, which are on the rise. Steroids for inflammation can cause a person to become significantly larger. Look at pictures of children with cancer to see some examples. Maybe you shouldn’t lump everyone and everything together.
你可能不知道有些药物会使人体重增加，尤其是治疗自身免疫性疾病的药物，这种药物正在增加。治疗炎症的类固醇会导致一个人明显变大。请看看患癌症儿童的照片，看一些例子。也许你不应该把所有人所有事混为一谈。
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You are probably not aware that some medications make people gain weight, especially ones for autoimmune disorders, which are on the rise. Steroids for inflammation can cause a person to become significantly larger. Look at pictures of children with cancer to see some examples. Maybe you shouldn’t lump everyone and everything together.
你可能不知道有些药物会使人体重增加，尤其是治疗自身免疫性疾病的药物，这种药物正在增加。治疗炎症的类固醇会导致一个人明显变大。请看看患癌症儿童的照片，看一些例子。也许你不应该把所有人所有事混为一谈。
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Jenny Peters to Helen Sanders
I am an RN of over forty years and I am quite aware that some, a very small amount of medications cause weight gain. Steroids used medicinally cause a moon face and a pot belly. They do not by themselves cause weight gain except in cases of increased appetite where food intake should be controlled.
Do you really think that American obesity is down to medication?
我是一名40多年的注册护士，我很清楚，一些非常少量的药物会导致体重增加。药物上使用的类固醇会导致月亮脸和啤酒肚。它们本身不会导致体重增加，除非在食欲增加的情况下，需要控制食物的摄入量。
你真的认为美国人的肥胖是药物造成的吗?
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I am an RN of over forty years and I am quite aware that some, a very small amount of medications cause weight gain. Steroids used medicinally cause a moon face and a pot belly. They do not by themselves cause weight gain except in cases of increased appetite where food intake should be controlled.
Do you really think that American obesity is down to medication?
我是一名40多年的注册护士，我很清楚，一些非常少量的药物会导致体重增加。药物上使用的类固醇会导致月亮脸和啤酒肚。它们本身不会导致体重增加，除非在食欲增加的情况下，需要控制食物的摄入量。
你真的认为美国人的肥胖是药物造成的吗?
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Roman Rypl
“Soda was available, but you would commonly have it on Saturday afternoon, when you were out with your boyfriend”
Ah, that sounds just like stories about dating from my parents’ generation. The phrase “go for coke” (“jít na colu”) was just like go for dinner or for wine today, it really was in the category of something special.
“苏打水是可以买到的，但你通常会在周六下午和男朋友出去的时候喝。”
啊，这听起来就像我父母那一代的约会故事。短语“去喝可乐”就像今天去吃晚餐或喝葡萄酒一样，它在当时真的属于特殊的范畴。
“Soda was available, but you would commonly have it on Saturday afternoon, when you were out with your boyfriend”
Ah, that sounds just like stories about dating from my parents’ generation. The phrase “go for coke” (“jít na colu”) was just like go for dinner or for wine today, it really was in the category of something special.
“苏打水是可以买到的，但你通常会在周六下午和男朋友出去的时候喝。”
啊，这听起来就像我父母那一代的约会故事。短语“去喝可乐”就像今天去吃晚餐或喝葡萄酒一样，它在当时真的属于特殊的范畴。
Ronald Mills
Not to mention food portions at restaurants have absolutely exploded to ridiculous levels.
更不用说餐厅的食物份量绝对爆炸多到荒谬的水平。
Not to mention food portions at restaurants have absolutely exploded to ridiculous levels.
更不用说餐厅的食物份量绝对爆炸多到荒谬的水平。
Ryan Thompson
Plus the major manufacturering companies, to make their products taste “better” began adding sugar to everything; bread, milk, cereals, yogurts etc. Even eating the same foods Americans ate in the 1950′s we started gaining weight from the added sugar. Plus in an attempt to make more money, food portions in restaurants increased. In the 50's a portion of steak was four oz. Now it's at least eight oz. at minimum. Double the sugar, double the portions and soon you have bigger Americans.
再加上主要的制造公司，为了让他们的产品味道“更好”，开始在所有东西中添加糖：面包、牛奶、谷物、酸奶等。即使吃美国人在20世纪50年代吃的同样的食物，我们也开始因为添加糖类而增重。此外，为了赚更多的钱，餐馆里的食物份量增加了。在50年代，一份牛排是4盎司，现在至少是8盎司。两倍的糖，两倍的分量，很快你就成了更大的美国人。
Plus the major manufacturering companies, to make their products taste “better” began adding sugar to everything; bread, milk, cereals, yogurts etc. Even eating the same foods Americans ate in the 1950′s we started gaining weight from the added sugar. Plus in an attempt to make more money, food portions in restaurants increased. In the 50's a portion of steak was four oz. Now it's at least eight oz. at minimum. Double the sugar, double the portions and soon you have bigger Americans.
再加上主要的制造公司，为了让他们的产品味道“更好”，开始在所有东西中添加糖：面包、牛奶、谷物、酸奶等。即使吃美国人在20世纪50年代吃的同样的食物，我们也开始因为添加糖类而增重。此外，为了赚更多的钱，餐馆里的食物份量增加了。在50年代，一份牛排是4盎司，现在至少是8盎司。两倍的糖，两倍的分量，很快你就成了更大的美国人。
Mark MacAulay
That meal actually looks pretty good! The broccoli and carrots will keep you ‘regular’. I remember walking to school as a kid, roaming all around the neighbourhood on my coaster bike, and playing for hours while eating nothing at all. Meals out were only for special occasions, and a trip to Dairy Queen for a small cone was a rare summer luxury. Money had to be spent on necessities first.
那顿饭看起来还不错！西兰花和胡萝卜会让你保持“规律”。我记得小时候走路去学校，骑着我的过山自行车在附近闲逛，玩了几个小时，什么都不吃。外出就餐只适用于特殊场合，去 冰雪皇后（连锁软冰淇淋和快餐餐厅）吃一个小甜筒是一种难得的夏日奢侈。钱必须首先花在必需品上。
That meal actually looks pretty good! The broccoli and carrots will keep you ‘regular’. I remember walking to school as a kid, roaming all around the neighbourhood on my coaster bike, and playing for hours while eating nothing at all. Meals out were only for special occasions, and a trip to Dairy Queen for a small cone was a rare summer luxury. Money had to be spent on necessities first.
那顿饭看起来还不错！西兰花和胡萝卜会让你保持“规律”。我记得小时候走路去学校，骑着我的过山自行车在附近闲逛，玩了几个小时，什么都不吃。外出就餐只适用于特殊场合，去 冰雪皇后（连锁软冰淇淋和快餐餐厅）吃一个小甜筒是一种难得的夏日奢侈。钱必须首先花在必需品上。
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