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nevermind7884
Unfortunately, smart shaming is prent in the Philippines. Just for example if you have a different opinion from the rest, words like "eh di wow" is used or worse they put you down by using ad hominems. Many go overseas where their skills, intellect and opinions are very much appreciated.

不幸的是，聪明人反受羞辱在菲律宾很普遍。举个例子，如果你和其他人有不同的意见，就会得到别人像“嗯，啊”这样的回应；或者更糟糕的是，他们会人身攻击你。许多人去了海外，在那里他们的技能、智慧和意见都得到了极大的赞赏。

nevermind7884
Most of our kababayans get defensive and upset straight away instead of having intelligent discussions. I wonder why. We need to listen, ask questions, and obviously, like what Asian boss said, Stay curious.

我们的大多数朋友立即有了戒备心，变得不安，而不是进行明智的讨论。我想知道为什么。我们需要倾听、提问。显然，就像亚洲老板所说的那样，保持好奇心。

ishiiflix3161
Nerds get shamed in every country… and then you become an adult and become successful.

书呆子在每个国家都会感到羞耻……然后你就成年了，并且能够取得成功。

vermillion2205
As a graduating senior from UP, I'd just like to share my thoughts.
Getting into a job as a graduate from the top universities in the country is easy. Getting a job that you will actually enjoy and is actually aligned with your interests is another story altogether simply because there are no jobs and there is no infrastructure to support even seemingly essential professions (graduates from the college of science, engineering, etc.)
When looking abroad, however, us graduates begin to realize just how valued our fields are in a more developed and diversified economy, thus move, study, or work abroad.
I love my country and I genuinely want to serve as a way of paying back the quality education given to me that so many desire as well, but I have to be practical and realistic. I will not realize my goals and dreams as a professional here.
Moving and studying abroad, gaining experience and hopefully applying it to the country in the future is a goal I have. A degree can only get you so far, but meeting the right people at the right place and time is an elusive luxury that so few of us get.

作为一名菲律宾大学毕业生，我想分享一下我的想法。
从国内顶尖大学毕业后找工作很容易。找到一份你真正喜欢的、与你的兴趣相符的工作就完全是两回事了。因为没有那么多工作机会，也没有基础设施来支持那些看似重要的职业（那些适合理工学院等毕业生的）
然而，当放眼海外时，我们的毕业生开始意识到，在一个更加发达和多样化的经济体中，他们的领域有多么重要。因此，他们会搬到国外学习或工作。
我热爱我的国家，我真的想我用所接受的优质教育回报这里，这也是许多人所渴望的，但我必须现实一点。作为一名技术人员，在这里我不能实现目标和梦想。
我的目标是出国学习，积累经验，并希望将来能将其应用于我的国家。一个学位只能让你走得很远，但在合适的地点和时间遇到合适的人是一种难得的奢侈，我们很少有人能做到。

kennethhhhhh9125
So true. Well spoken. Facts right there. It's not always about a degree yes it's important but soft skills interpersonal skills and networking is much more important(meeting right people at right time).

如此真实，说得好。事实就在那里。这并不总是与学位有关，是的，学位很重要，但软技能、人际交往能力和人际关系网更为重要（在正确的时间遇到正确的人）。

CaptainNoch
My problem with the Philippines is how nepotism destroys opportunities. This is a country where one can get high up in the social hierarchy just because their father is the mayor, or their grandfather was a wealthy business owner.
People who actually work hard for their degrees are exploited and given not-so-favorable work opportunities and we all know why.
That is the sad reality. I also want to live in the Philippines but if that is how the government wants to treat its people, then why should I contribute back?
I am glad I made the move to Singapore as an undergraduate student at NUS and I plan to settle down here. I prefer to live in a country where there are opportunities open to all based on how much effort they give, as opposed to familial connections or social status.

我认为菲律宾的问题是裙带关系如何破坏（原有）机会的。在这个国家，人们可以仅仅因为他们的父亲是市长，或者他们的祖父是一位富有的企业主，就可以在社会等级中获得很高的地位。
真正为学位而努力工作的人会受到剥削，工作机会也不那么好，我们都知道这是为什么。
这就是可悲的现实。我也想住在菲律宾，但如果那是政府想要对待人民的方式，那我为什么要回来？
我很高兴作为国大的一名本科生搬到新加坡，我打算在这里安顿下来。 我更喜欢生活在一个向所有人开放机会的国家，能否有个好工作与他们付出多少努力有关，而不是家庭关系或社会地位。

leonalynazucena3311
Sad but true in the Philippines:
1. Smart achievers who come from prestigious schools are seen as snobs, often shamed.
2. Many people passive aggressively insist "character is better than education" as if education doesn't shape character.
3. Your high educational background or achievements will be used against you everytime you become assertive. "You have such high education but why is your manners like that?!" is their favorite gaslighting line.
4. Many dreams become frustrated because they needed to choose a course with more practical applications and those that pay high.
5. Many are still highly ignorant of science facts, the law, business, and their own history.

在菲律宾，悲伤但真实的事情：
1.来自名校的聪明学生被视为势利小人，常常感到羞耻。
2.许多人被动、激进地认为“性格胜于教育”，好像教育不能塑造性格一样。
3.每次你坚定自信时，你的高学历或成就都会被用来对付你。“你受过如此高的教育，但为什么你的举止如此？！”这是他们最喜欢的诋毁方式。
4.许多人仍然对科学事实、法律、商业和本国历史一无所知。

jmpc1565
Some of the comments here are just saying that education is not that important because it all boils down to luck and "diskarte," this is a really problematic take. Not everyone can get that luck and diskarte that you've had/you have, a college degree will really help you in increasing the chances of getting a job. If being a college dropout worked for you in the end, then that's awesome but keep in mind that this type of luck RARELY happens. Getting that college degree will help you have more options and better opportunities.

这里的一些评论只是说，教育没有那么重要，因为这一切都归结为运气和“缺乏勇气”，这个观点才真正有问题。并不是每个人都能得到你曾经拥有的那种运气和勇气，大学学位真的会增加你找到工作的机会。如果辍学还能找到好工作，那可太棒了。但要记住，这种运气很少发生。获得大学学位将有助于你有更多的选择和更好的机会。

deeb.9250
Also if you want to work as a professional overseas, where the big money is.. get all the degrees and pass your professional exams. No country gives work pass to dropouts, except manual labor.

另外，如果您想在海外从事专业工作，能赚大钱的那种……（那就）获得所有学位并通过专业考试。 除了体力劳动外，没有一个国家会给辍学者工作许可证。

jesssc402
Not everyone is privileged enough to get education though. Both are important imo, but in the real world, a college degree could only do so much. It boils down to how you make use of it, your connections, and luck.

但并不是每个人都有足够的机会接受教育。两者都很重要，但在现实世界中，大学学位只能起到这么大的作用。归根结底，这取决于你如何利用它、以及你的人脉和运气。
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jmpc1565
@jesssc402
True, this is also why our government really needs to address and solve the current education crisis. How nice would it be if education is really treated as a basic right and not just a privilege availed by people who have the financial capacity to avail it, right? But then again, how would you expect this govt to prioritize making educational reforms when the deped head is someone who doesn't really have the expertise in the field :(

诚然，这也是我们的政府真正需要处理和解决当前教育危机的原因。 如果教育真的被视为一项基本权利，而不仅仅是有经济能力的人享有的特权，那该有多好，对吧？ 但是话又说回来，目前的负责人不是真正具备该领域专业知识的人，您又如何能够期望政府优先进行教育改革:(

nm2000
It’s fascinating to see how strong the influence of the English language is in the Philippines. Especially higher educated people switch from Tagalog into English and vice versa.

看到英语在菲律宾的影响力有多大，真是令人惊奇。 特别是受过高等教育的人在他加禄语和英语两种语言中转换。

d3sladrvltia88
I have a friend who graduated in UP. He is not a Filipino, he's vietnamese who grow up in the PH. He's successful and a CEO of his own comp. He's down to earth, kept his feet in the ground and find a way to give back to the PH. He supported poor kids who are very smart and game them scholarship. He's not expecting in return out of his good deeds. I know many successful UP graduates are doind this as well.

我有一个朋友毕业于菲律宾大学。他不是菲律宾人，他是在这里长大的越南人。他很成功，是自己公司的首席执行官。他脚踏实地，勤勤恳恳，想方设法回报这里。他支持非常聪明的穷孩子，并为他们争取奖学金。他不期望他的善行得到回报。我知道许多这所大学毕业的成功毕业生也在这样做。

Armz69
Man, I love how intelligent and insightful these youths are. It's almost impossible to hear opinions as such from locals in Malaysia.

伙计，我喜欢这些年轻人的智慧和洞察力。 在马来西亚几乎不可能听到当地人的意见。
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aleimarvillabrille9745
As an alumni, I am so proud of these students. Quick thinking, comprehensive responses, and compassion for people - trademark UP student qualities.

作为校友，我为这些学生感到骄傲。 他们有着敏捷的思维、全面的反应和对人的同情心——菲律宾大学学生的标志性品质。

aribaariba8609
A college degree from a prestigious school can definitely attract the attention of employers and increase your chances of, but don't expect that it will be that easy, because employers will always choose someone who is experienced and has a wider skill set. So it doesn't matter what university you came from, if you want a high paying job, build your portfolio first.

名校的大学学位绝对可以吸引雇主的注意，并增加你的机会。但不要指望事情会那么容易，因为雇主总是会选择经验丰富且技能更广泛的人。所以不管你来自哪所大学，如果你想要一份高薪工作，首先自己得有点东西。

-jiyuujin-
Super interesting video, as always. Sorry for the maybe silly question, but do people in the Philippines always speak mixing full English phrases with their own language and what is the reason for that or maybe the origin of this way of doing? Thanks to whoever will kindly reply! I'm very intrigued!

一如既往，这是超级有趣的视频。很抱歉这个问题可能很愚蠢，但是菲律宾人是否总是将完整的英语短语与他们自己的语言混合使用？这是什么原因，或者这种做法的起源是什么？感谢好心回复的人！我很好奇！
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randywaclin101
Yes we do,the reason why we speak English is bcuz of the Americans colonizing our country back then

是的，我们知道，我们说英语是因为当时美国人曾在我们国家殖民

iiirene3574
English is one of our official languages. It's so common for us to mix English and Tagalog/Filipino. You can barely find a Pinoy who can speak 100% Filipino.

英语是我们的官方语言之一。 混合英语和他加禄语/菲律宾语对我们来说很常见。 你几乎找不到会说百分百菲律宾语的菲律宾人。
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zeusmaryusep
College degree is important irrespective of which university you obtained your degree from. Most employers dont care what university you graduated from. If your career requires licensure to practice, get that license and find employers that would pay most for what you do. UP graduate doesnt mean a thing if you obtained a degree and worked in call centers to make ends meet.

无论您从哪所大学获得学位，大学学位都很重要。大多数雇主不关心你毕业于哪所大学。 如果您的职业需要执业证书，请获得该执照并找到愿意为您的工作支付最多费用的雇主。菲律宾大学的毕业生并不意味着什么。

wisemonkey8485
Getting a professional job in the Philippines is scarce as you will most likely get it at the government rather than a company or independent work. That's why college graduates are more likely to go abroad.

在菲律宾找一份专业工作是很少见的，因为你很可能在政府谋职，而不是在公司（打工）或独立工作。这就是为什么大学毕业生更愿意出国的原因。

WhiteWolf-xy7sg
Brain Drain & Educational Crisis is real. Not everyone has the opportunity to study, some are held by their circumstances in life. Worse, those that have power to change that focus on other things. Also, there's corruption in the department so the budget to improve the quality of education is wrongly spent & fair access to it is not achieved. Further, politicians don't like educated voters that's why they veer away on projects & platforms geared towards improving quality education for all. They prey on easily manipulated gullible people who are less educated & don't have the experience & exposure to think critically & make informed decisions.
As mentioned by the interviewees, the current economic situation in the country does not make it appealing for many to stay & work here. The minimum wage is very low while the prices of basic commodities rise. There is also less job opportunities. Local employers ask too much like experience & other qualifications from job seekers. There's also discrimination in terms of where they graduated from instead of looking at the skillset.

人才流失和教育危机是真实存在的。 不是每个人都有学习的机会，有些人会受到生活环境的影响。 更糟糕的是，那些有能力改变的人专注于其他事情。 此外，（政府）部门存在腐败，因此用于提高教育质量的预算被乱用在其他地方，并且没有提供公平的机会。 再者，政治家不喜欢受过教育的选民，这就是为什么他们转向旨在为所有人提供优质教育的项目和平台。 他们的目标是那些容易被操纵、上当受骗的人，这些人受教育程度低，没有批判性思考和做出明智决定的经验和能力。
正如受访者所提到的，该国目前的经济形势并不能吸引许多人留下来并在这里工作。 最低工资很低，而基本商品的价格却在上涨，就业机会也较少。（但是，）当地雇主对求职者的经验和其他资格要求过高。存在学历歧视，学历胜过了能力。

Razear
Just looked it up, apparently the university ranks within the top 500 in the world, which is impressive, but it would pale in comparison to the likes of Harvard, Stanford, Oxford, all of the biggest names in the West. If the 10% acceptance rate is to be believed, then it is certainly very sextive, close to the admission sextivity of the American Ivies. But it wouldn't wow the socks off employers abroad. And of course brain drain is going to be an issue with most developing countries. All the brightest minds will seek greater opportunity elsewhere if they have the ability, that isn't their fault. The country needs to do a better job of retaining their best talent.

简单查了一下，这所大学位列世界500强，这令人印象深刻，但与哈佛、斯坦福、牛津等西方名校相比，这所大学就相形见绌了。如果10%的录取率是可信的，那么它的录取肯定很挑剔，接近美国常春藤的录取率。但这并不会让国外雇主大吃一惊。当然，人才外流将成为大多数发展中国家的问题。如果有能力，所有最聪明的人都会在其他地方寻求更大的机会，这并不是他们的错。国家需要更好地留住他们最优秀的人才。

regnag445
After getting a degree theyll ask you for experience, after having experience a person with "backer" gets the spot.

拿到学位后，他们会问你经验；有了经验后，那些有“靠山”的人会占上风。