抱怨条件的英国寻求庇护者“受到去卢旺达的威胁”
正文翻译
(A child runs outside the gates of the Crowne Plaza hotel at Heathrow in 2021, which was housing asylum seekers.)
（2021年，一名儿童在希思罗机场的皇冠假日酒店大门外奔跑，该酒店为寻求庇护者提供住宿。）
新闻：
UK asylum seekers who complain about conditions ‘threatened with Rwanda’
-Refugee Action report calls asylum seeker accommodation ‘racialised segregation and de facto detention’
抱怨条件的英国寻求庇护者“受到去卢旺达的威胁”
——难民行动报告称寻求庇护者的住所是“种族隔离和事实上的拘留”
-Refugee Action report calls asylum seeker accommodation ‘racialised segregation and de facto detention’
抱怨条件的英国寻求庇护者“受到去卢旺达的威胁”
——难民行动报告称寻求庇护者的住所是“种族隔离和事实上的拘留”
(A child runs outside the gates of the Crowne Plaza hotel at Heathrow in 2021, which was housing asylum seekers.)
（2021年，一名儿童在希思罗机场的皇冠假日酒店大门外奔跑，该酒店为寻求庇护者提供住宿。）
新闻：
Asylum seekers who complain about poor conditions in Home Office hotels have been threatened with being sent to Rwanda, according to a new report.
根据一份新的报告，那些抱怨内政部酒店恶劣条件的寻求庇护者受到了被送往卢旺达的威胁。
根据一份新的报告，那些抱怨内政部酒店恶劣条件的寻求庇护者受到了被送往卢旺达的威胁。
The report from the charity Refugee Action, entitled Hostile Accommodation: How the Asylum System Is Cruel By Design, is based on 100 in-depth interviews with asylum seekers in hotels in London, Manchester, West Midlands and Bradford.
慈善机构“难民行动”发布的这份报告名为《敌意住宿：庇护制度是如何被设计成残酷的》，该报告基于对伦敦、曼彻斯特、西米德兰兹郡和布拉德福德酒店的100名寻求庇护者的深度采访。
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慈善机构“难民行动”发布的这份报告名为《敌意住宿：庇护制度是如何被设计成残酷的》，该报告基于对伦敦、曼彻斯特、西米德兰兹郡和布拉德福德酒店的100名寻求庇护者的深度采访。
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It includes interviews with single adults and families, detailed casework records relating to problems in hotels and other asylum accommodation, and freedom of information requests to council environmental health departments.
其中包括对单身成年人和家庭的访谈，有关酒店和其他庇护住所问题的详细个案工作记录，以及向议会环境卫生部门提出的信息自由要求。
其中包括对单身成年人和家庭的访谈，有关酒店和其他庇护住所问题的详细个案工作记录，以及向议会环境卫生部门提出的信息自由要求。
The report says that on top of being told not to complain about poor conditions or face removal to Rwanda, asylum seekers were also told that if they complained about the quality of food served to them the police would be called. They were also told they were forbidden from taking photos of the food to provide evidence of its quality, the report says.
报告说，寻求庇护者除了被告知不要抱怨恶劣的条件，否则将被驱逐到卢旺达之外，还被告知，如果他们抱怨提供给他们的食物质量，就会打电话给警察。报道称，他们还被告知禁止拍摄食品照片以证明其质量。
报告说，寻求庇护者除了被告知不要抱怨恶劣的条件，否则将被驱逐到卢旺达之外，还被告知，如果他们抱怨提供给他们的食物质量，就会打电话给警察。报道称，他们还被告知禁止拍摄食品照片以证明其质量。
The report calls the system of accommodating asylum seekers – with more than 50,000 currently in hotels – “a nationwide system of racialised segregation and de facto detention”.
报告称收容寻求庇护者的系统——目前有超过5万人住在酒店——是“一个全国性的种族隔离和事实上的拘留系统”。
报告称收容寻求庇护者的系统——目前有超过5万人住在酒店——是“一个全国性的种族隔离和事实上的拘留系统”。
Asylum seekers are being housed in hotels for increasingly long periods. One in three adults and more than one in four families with children are in hotels for more than a year. In one case a family of six lived in one room for more than a year. The report warns that if the new immigration bill now going through parliament is implemented, the situation will worsen.
寻求庇护者被安置在旅馆的时间越来越长。三分之一的成年人和四分之一以上有孩子的家庭在酒店住了一年以上。在一个案例中，一家六口在一个房间里住了一年多。报告警告说，如果议会正在审议的新移民法案得到实施，情况将会恶化。
寻求庇护者被安置在旅馆的时间越来越长。三分之一的成年人和四分之一以上有孩子的家庭在酒店住了一年以上。在一个案例中，一家六口在一个房间里住了一年多。报告警告说，如果议会正在审议的新移民法案得到实施，情况将会恶化。
Concerns highlighted in the report include that:
报告中强调的关切包括：
报告中强调的关切包括：
1、More than half complain of overcrowding, a lack of privacy and having to spend more than six months living in a hotel. Some single adults have spent more than two and a half years in hotels.
2、Three-quarters have reported low quality or inappropriate food and say they are facing hunger or malnutrition. A similar number are facing mental health problems.
3、The majority of asylum seekers the charity is supporting are people of colour.
4、There are numerous cases of mothers unable to continue breastfeeding because they have become malnourished due to hotel food. Some children have lost weight.
5、A third of families say their children have been unable to access education.
6、The report highlights individual cases including a wheelchair user trapped on the 11th floor of a hotel with a dysfunctional lift, and an accommodation contractor who urged a GP not to write a health support letter for an asylum seeker advocating for a transfer as it could put pressure on the contractor’s accommodation system.
1、超过半数的人抱怨酒店过于拥挤、缺乏隐私以及不得不在酒店里住6个多月。一些单身成年人在酒店里住了两年半以上。
2、四分之三的人报告食物质量低或不合适，并表示他们面临饥饿或营养不良。同样数量的人面临心理健康问题。
3、该慈善机构支持的大多数寻求庇护者都是有色人种。
4、有很多母亲无法继续母乳喂养的案例，因为她们因酒店的食物而营养不良。一些孩子体重下降了。
5、三分之一的家庭表示，他们的孩子无法接受教育。
6、该报告强调了个别案例，包括一名轮椅使用者被困在一家电梯失灵的酒店的11层，以及一名住宿承包商敦促全科医生不要为寻求庇护者写一封主张转移治疗的健康支持信，因为这可能会给承包商的住宿系统带来压力。
2、Three-quarters have reported low quality or inappropriate food and say they are facing hunger or malnutrition. A similar number are facing mental health problems.
3、The majority of asylum seekers the charity is supporting are people of colour.
4、There are numerous cases of mothers unable to continue breastfeeding because they have become malnourished due to hotel food. Some children have lost weight.
5、A third of families say their children have been unable to access education.
6、The report highlights individual cases including a wheelchair user trapped on the 11th floor of a hotel with a dysfunctional lift, and an accommodation contractor who urged a GP not to write a health support letter for an asylum seeker advocating for a transfer as it could put pressure on the contractor’s accommodation system.
1、超过半数的人抱怨酒店过于拥挤、缺乏隐私以及不得不在酒店里住6个多月。一些单身成年人在酒店里住了两年半以上。
2、四分之三的人报告食物质量低或不合适，并表示他们面临饥饿或营养不良。同样数量的人面临心理健康问题。
3、该慈善机构支持的大多数寻求庇护者都是有色人种。
4、有很多母亲无法继续母乳喂养的案例，因为她们因酒店的食物而营养不良。一些孩子体重下降了。
5、三分之一的家庭表示，他们的孩子无法接受教育。
6、该报告强调了个别案例，包括一名轮椅使用者被困在一家电梯失灵的酒店的11层，以及一名住宿承包商敦促全科医生不要为寻求庇护者写一封主张转移治疗的健康支持信，因为这可能会给承包商的住宿系统带来压力。
Pest and rodent infestations were common along with damp, mould and flooding. There have also been instances of ceilings collapsing with one woman holding a baby and a child taken to hospital in two separate incidents after ceiling collapses.
虫害和鼠害以及潮湿、发霉和漏水是常见的。也有天花板掉落的例子，在两起不同的事故中，分别有一名妇女加一名婴儿和一名儿童被送往医院。
虫害和鼠害以及潮湿、发霉和漏水是常见的。也有天花板掉落的例子，在两起不同的事故中，分别有一名妇女加一名婴儿和一名儿童被送往医院。
Refugee Action is calling on government to fund councils and NGOs to provide accommodation and support instead of the current group of private contractors who make millions of pounds in profit out of Home Office contracts.
“难民行动”呼吁政府为理事会和非政府组织提供资金，以提供住宿和支持，而不是目前那些从内政部合同中赚取数百万英镑利润的私人承包商。
“难民行动”呼吁政府为理事会和非政府组织提供资金，以提供住宿和支持，而不是目前那些从内政部合同中赚取数百万英镑利润的私人承包商。
Tim Naor Hilton, chief executive of Refugee Action, said: “The government is running a system of de facto detention – holding and segregating people seeking asylum in accommodation that is harming their mental and physical health. This demoralising and brutal system costs the taxpayer millions per day but creates huge profits for contractors who are too often failing to make their housing habitable.”
“难民行动”的首席执行官蒂姆·诺尔·希尔顿说：“政府正在运行一种事实上的拘留系统——将寻求庇护的人关押和隔离，这损害了他们的身心健康。这种令人沮丧和残酷的制度每天花费纳税人数百万美元，但却为那些经常未能使房屋保持适合居住状态的承包商创造了巨额利润。”
“难民行动”的首席执行官蒂姆·诺尔·希尔顿说：“政府正在运行一种事实上的拘留系统——将寻求庇护的人关押和隔离，这损害了他们的身心健康。这种令人沮丧和残酷的制度每天花费纳税人数百万美元，但却为那些经常未能使房屋保持适合居住状态的承包商创造了巨额利润。”
A Home Office spokesperson said: “We do not recognise the claims in the report suggesting hospitalisations, threats of deportation or restriction of movements, but where concerns are raised about any aspect of the service delivered by the hotel we work with the provider to ensure they are addressed in a timely manner.”
内政部发言人说：“我们不承认报告中有关住院、驱逐出境威胁或限制行动的说法，但如果对酒店提供的服务的任何方面提出了担忧，我们会与供应商合作，确保这些问题得到及时解决。
内政部发言人说：“我们不承认报告中有关住院、驱逐出境威胁或限制行动的说法，但如果对酒店提供的服务的任何方面提出了担忧，我们会与供应商合作，确保这些问题得到及时解决。
评论翻译
thepurplehedgehog
Yet again with the Tories, the cruelty is the point.
再一次，对于保守党来说，残忍是关键。
Yet again with the Tories, the cruelty is the point.
再一次，对于保守党来说，残忍是关键。
JobLegitimate3882
Why is sending peoplr to rwanda cruel?
为什么把人送到卢旺达是残忍的？
Why is sending peoplr to rwanda cruel?
为什么把人送到卢旺达是残忍的？
RandomZombeh
Google “Rwanda human rights” and have a look.
Deporting people to a country they never wanted to go to against their will? I hope i don’t have to explain why that’s cruel, but just incase, imagine you had to flee where you lived. And your plan was to go to a country where you have a connection. Friends, family, maybe even just because you know the language. You get there just to find that not only can you not get in, you’re to be packed into a plane and sent to a country you’ve never even had a desire to visit, and there is literally nothing you can do to stop it, nor can you return to your desired country even if your application is approved.
谷歌“卢旺达人权”，看一看。
违背他们的意愿将他们驱逐到一个他们从来不想去的国家？我希望我不用解释为什么这很残忍，但以防万一，想象一下你不得不逃离你住的地方。而你的计划是去一个你有关系的国家。朋友，家人，甚至仅仅因为你懂这门语言。你到了那里，却发现你不仅进不去，还会被塞进一架飞机，被送到一个你从未渴望要去的国家，而且你根本无能为力，即使你的申请被批准了，你也不能回到你想去的国家。
Google “Rwanda human rights” and have a look.
Deporting people to a country they never wanted to go to against their will? I hope i don’t have to explain why that’s cruel, but just incase, imagine you had to flee where you lived. And your plan was to go to a country where you have a connection. Friends, family, maybe even just because you know the language. You get there just to find that not only can you not get in, you’re to be packed into a plane and sent to a country you’ve never even had a desire to visit, and there is literally nothing you can do to stop it, nor can you return to your desired country even if your application is approved.
谷歌“卢旺达人权”，看一看。
违背他们的意愿将他们驱逐到一个他们从来不想去的国家？我希望我不用解释为什么这很残忍，但以防万一，想象一下你不得不逃离你住的地方。而你的计划是去一个你有关系的国家。朋友，家人，甚至仅仅因为你懂这门语言。你到了那里，却发现你不仅进不去，还会被塞进一架飞机，被送到一个你从未渴望要去的国家，而且你根本无能为力，即使你的申请被批准了，你也不能回到你想去的国家。
GeorgeWFrance
i think the use of “want” and “desire” is the problem with your argument here, the asylum system is not for that, they need the immigration system
if you’re fleeing war and need out asap, then anywhere where there isn’t war is a step up, beggars can’t be choosers and all that
they can make a different choice and perhaps stay in France if they don’t want to go to Rwanda?
我认为使用“想要”和“渴望”是你论点的问题所在，庇护制度不是为了这个，他们需要移民制度，如果你逃离战争，需要尽快离开，那么任何没有战争的地方都是一个进步，乞丐无权挑三拣四
他们可以做出不同的选择，也许留在法国，如果他们不想去卢旺达的话？
i think the use of “want” and “desire” is the problem with your argument here, the asylum system is not for that, they need the immigration system
if you’re fleeing war and need out asap, then anywhere where there isn’t war is a step up, beggars can’t be choosers and all that
they can make a different choice and perhaps stay in France if they don’t want to go to Rwanda?
我认为使用“想要”和“渴望”是你论点的问题所在，庇护制度不是为了这个，他们需要移民制度，如果你逃离战争，需要尽快离开，那么任何没有战争的地方都是一个进步，乞丐无权挑三拣四
他们可以做出不同的选择，也许留在法国，如果他们不想去卢旺达的话？
smity31Herts
Yeah dude, they're only fleeing war or persecution. It doesn't matter at all if they want to have an easier time settling somewhere away from their home, we should deliberately make their lives harder than it needs to be just because we don't like the idea of foreigners in our country.
Never mind that neighbouring countries to war zones are being overwhelmed, such as Lebanon who's population is already over 1/3 refugees even with the currently standing asylum rules. Never mind that were one of the richest countries on the planet. Never mind that we've often got some responsibility for the destabilisation of some of the countries people are fleeing from. And Never mind that it goes directly against the kindness and tolerance that so many people, especially right wingers, espouse as core British values...
是啊，伙计，他们只是为了逃离战争或迫害。如果他们想在远离家乡的地方定居，这一点也不重要，我们应该故意让他们的生活变得更加艰难，仅仅因为我们不喜欢外国人跑到我们国家的想法。
不要介意战区的邻国正在不堪重负，比如黎巴嫩，即使在目前的庇护规定下，其人口已经超过三分之一都是难民了。没关系，我们是世界上最富有的国家之一。我们对人们逃离的一些国家的不稳定往往负有一定的责任。别介意这直接违背了很多人，尤其是右翼分子，所信奉的英国核心价值观——善良和宽容……
Yeah dude, they're only fleeing war or persecution. It doesn't matter at all if they want to have an easier time settling somewhere away from their home, we should deliberately make their lives harder than it needs to be just because we don't like the idea of foreigners in our country.
Never mind that neighbouring countries to war zones are being overwhelmed, such as Lebanon who's population is already over 1/3 refugees even with the currently standing asylum rules. Never mind that were one of the richest countries on the planet. Never mind that we've often got some responsibility for the destabilisation of some of the countries people are fleeing from. And Never mind that it goes directly against the kindness and tolerance that so many people, especially right wingers, espouse as core British values...
是啊，伙计，他们只是为了逃离战争或迫害。如果他们想在远离家乡的地方定居，这一点也不重要，我们应该故意让他们的生活变得更加艰难，仅仅因为我们不喜欢外国人跑到我们国家的想法。
不要介意战区的邻国正在不堪重负，比如黎巴嫩，即使在目前的庇护规定下，其人口已经超过三分之一都是难民了。没关系，我们是世界上最富有的国家之一。我们对人们逃离的一些国家的不稳定往往负有一定的责任。别介意这直接违背了很多人，尤其是右翼分子，所信奉的英国核心价值观——善良和宽容……
LifeEnjoyerrr
Asylum Seeker - "the conditions here that we're forced to in live are quite bad, can we improve it please?"
Government - "Rwanda"
寻求庇护者：“我们被迫生活在这里的条件非常糟糕，我们能改善一下吗？”
政府：“卢旺达”
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Asylum Seeker - "the conditions here that we're forced to in live are quite bad, can we improve it please?"
Government - "Rwanda"
寻求庇护者：“我们被迫生活在这里的条件非常糟糕，我们能改善一下吗？”
政府：“卢旺达”
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qrcodetensile
You are stealing: right to Rwanda. You are playing music too loud: right to Rwanda, right away. Driving too fast: Rwanda. Slow: Rwanda. You are charging too high prices for sweaters, glasses: you right to Rwanda. You undercook fish? Believe it or not, Rwanda. You overcook chicken, also Rwanda. Undercook, overcook. You make an appointment with the dentist and you don't show up, believe it or not, Rwanda, right away. We have the best patients in the world because of Rwanda.
你在偷窃：马上去旺达。你把音乐放得太大声了：马上去卢旺达，马上。开快超速：马上去卢旺达。开车慢：马上去旺达。你对毛衣、眼镜要价太高了：你该去卢旺达。你没煮熟鱼？信不信由你，卢旺达。你把鸡烧烂掉了，还是卢旺达。没烧熟、烧糊了。你和牙医预约了，但你没有马上去，信不信由你，卢旺达。因为在卢旺达，我们有世界上最好的病人。
You are stealing: right to Rwanda. You are playing music too loud: right to Rwanda, right away. Driving too fast: Rwanda. Slow: Rwanda. You are charging too high prices for sweaters, glasses: you right to Rwanda. You undercook fish? Believe it or not, Rwanda. You overcook chicken, also Rwanda. Undercook, overcook. You make an appointment with the dentist and you don't show up, believe it or not, Rwanda, right away. We have the best patients in the world because of Rwanda.
你在偷窃：马上去旺达。你把音乐放得太大声了：马上去卢旺达，马上。开快超速：马上去卢旺达。开车慢：马上去旺达。你对毛衣、眼镜要价太高了：你该去卢旺达。你没煮熟鱼？信不信由你，卢旺达。你把鸡烧烂掉了，还是卢旺达。没烧熟、烧糊了。你和牙医预约了，但你没有马上去，信不信由你，卢旺达。因为在卢旺达，我们有世界上最好的病人。
fromacaddy77
Asylum Seeker - "the conditions here that we're forced to live in are quite bad, can we improve it please?"
Government - "Surely a 5 star hotel along with all the other free perks we're giving you at the tax payers expense is better than the shit hole shanty town you were happy to live in in northern France before you popped over the channel illegally. Did you happen to complain to the French government about the conditions they were happy to let you live in while you were in France?... No, didn't think so."
寻求庇护者——“我们被迫生活的环境非常糟糕，我们能改善一下吗？”
政府：“一个五星级酒店加上我们用纳税人的钱给你的所有其他免费福利，肯定比你在非法越海之前在法国北部喜欢住的破房子要好。你有没有向法国政府抱怨过你在法国期间他们乐于让你居住的条件？不，我想你没有。”
Asylum Seeker - "the conditions here that we're forced to live in are quite bad, can we improve it please?"
Government - "Surely a 5 star hotel along with all the other free perks we're giving you at the tax payers expense is better than the shit hole shanty town you were happy to live in in northern France before you popped over the channel illegally. Did you happen to complain to the French government about the conditions they were happy to let you live in while you were in France?... No, didn't think so."
寻求庇护者——“我们被迫生活的环境非常糟糕，我们能改善一下吗？”
政府：“一个五星级酒店加上我们用纳税人的钱给你的所有其他免费福利，肯定比你在非法越海之前在法国北部喜欢住的破房子要好。你有没有向法国政府抱怨过你在法国期间他们乐于让你居住的条件？不，我想你没有。”
Olester14
They're staying in 5 star hotels?
他们住在五星级酒店？
They're staying in 5 star hotels?
他们住在五星级酒店？
fromacaddy77
Yes, in some cases they are. And if it's not a 5 star hotel I'm pretty certain whatever it is will be better than the campsites in France.
是的，在某些情况下确实如此。如果不是五星级酒店，我敢肯定不管它是什么，都比法国的露营地要好。
Yes, in some cases they are. And if it's not a 5 star hotel I'm pretty certain whatever it is will be better than the campsites in France.
是的，在某些情况下确实如此。如果不是五星级酒店，我敢肯定不管它是什么，都比法国的露营地要好。
Olester14
Source?
来源？
Source?
来源？
sickofsnails
It’s not very often they’re 5 star hotels, it’s usually a travelodge or some really shitty asylum b&b (sometimes shared by homeless people on licence) shared with mould and rodents.
When the Home Office decide where you go, it depends on where you’re applying for it and the availability. There’s also the initial period, which is more common for hotels to be used, then they get moved on to longer term accommodation.
If you’re applying for asylum in NI, you won’t be put in England, Scotland or Wales and vice versa. If your claim fails, there’s a chance you can be put in immigration detention in Larne (short term), then moved over to another part of the UK.
Generally, anyone with health problems or family under 18 accompanying them, isn’t suitable for immigration detention. About 60% of people are released from it, within a few days.
不经常是五星级酒店，通常是一个旅行旅馆或一些非常糟糕的收容所民宿（有时由无家可归的人共用），里面有霉菌和鼠类动物。
当内政部决定你去哪里时，这取决于你申请的地方和可得性。也有最初的一段时间，这是更常见的酒店，然后他们被转移到更长期的住宿。
如果你在北爱尔兰申请庇护，你不会被安置在英格兰、苏格兰或威尔士，反之亦然。如果你的申请失败，你可能会被拘留在拉恩（短期），然后转移到英国的另一个地方。
一般来说，任何有健康问题或有18岁以下家庭陪伴的人都不适合被移民拘留。大约60%的人在几天内就能被释放。
It’s not very often they’re 5 star hotels, it’s usually a travelodge or some really shitty asylum b&b (sometimes shared by homeless people on licence) shared with mould and rodents.
When the Home Office decide where you go, it depends on where you’re applying for it and the availability. There’s also the initial period, which is more common for hotels to be used, then they get moved on to longer term accommodation.
If you’re applying for asylum in NI, you won’t be put in England, Scotland or Wales and vice versa. If your claim fails, there’s a chance you can be put in immigration detention in Larne (short term), then moved over to another part of the UK.
Generally, anyone with health problems or family under 18 accompanying them, isn’t suitable for immigration detention. About 60% of people are released from it, within a few days.
不经常是五星级酒店，通常是一个旅行旅馆或一些非常糟糕的收容所民宿（有时由无家可归的人共用），里面有霉菌和鼠类动物。
当内政部决定你去哪里时，这取决于你申请的地方和可得性。也有最初的一段时间，这是更常见的酒店，然后他们被转移到更长期的住宿。
如果你在北爱尔兰申请庇护，你不会被安置在英格兰、苏格兰或威尔士，反之亦然。如果你的申请失败，你可能会被拘留在拉恩（短期），然后转移到英国的另一个地方。
一般来说，任何有健康问题或有18岁以下家庭陪伴的人都不适合被移民拘留。大约60%的人在几天内就能被释放。
Olester14
I just googled the claim as the other guy told me too and the only thing I could find was about some staying in a four star hotel half a year ago. Thanks for the information
就像另一个人告诉我的那样，我在谷歌上搜索了一下，我唯一能找到的是半年前住过一家四星级酒店的人。谢谢你提供的信息
原创翻译：龙腾网 https://www.ltaaa.cn 转载请注明出处
I just googled the claim as the other guy told me too and the only thing I could find was about some staying in a four star hotel half a year ago. Thanks for the information
就像另一个人告诉我的那样，我在谷歌上搜索了一下，我唯一能找到的是半年前住过一家四星级酒店的人。谢谢你提供的信息
原创翻译：龙腾网 https://www.ltaaa.cn 转载请注明出处
sickofsnails
I just want to add that a lot of the asylum accommodation is truly awful, especially in the longer term phase.
The process often looks like this:
Apply for asylum at the border, or in another dedicated place
Get sent hundreds of miles away to Glasgow, in a b&b. The initial phase is supposed to last for 3 weeks, but you’ve been there for 3 months, so your kids are in school.
Get moved to Cardiff, in a damp shared house, with a few other families.
Wait for over a year, while the kids have been moved around and suffered a lot of trauma.
Get refused asylum and it’s certified, so you’ll need a judicial review
Wait more time, while you wait to hear a decision of that judicial review
我只是想补充一点，很多庇护住宿真的很糟糕，尤其是在长期阶段的住宿。
这个过程通常是这样的：
在边境或其他专门的地方申请庇护
被送到几百英里外的格拉斯哥，住在民宿里。最初阶段应该持续3周，但你已经在那里3个月了，所以你的孩子还在上学。
搬到加的夫，和其他几个家庭住在一个潮湿的合租房子里。
等了一年多，而孩子们被转移了，期间遭受了很多创伤。
你的庇护申请被拒绝了，而且已经被确认了，所以你需要司法审查
再等一段时间，等待司法审查的结果
I just want to add that a lot of the asylum accommodation is truly awful, especially in the longer term phase.
The process often looks like this:
Apply for asylum at the border, or in another dedicated place
Get sent hundreds of miles away to Glasgow, in a b&b. The initial phase is supposed to last for 3 weeks, but you’ve been there for 3 months, so your kids are in school.
Get moved to Cardiff, in a damp shared house, with a few other families.
Wait for over a year, while the kids have been moved around and suffered a lot of trauma.
Get refused asylum and it’s certified, so you’ll need a judicial review
Wait more time, while you wait to hear a decision of that judicial review
我只是想补充一点，很多庇护住宿真的很糟糕，尤其是在长期阶段的住宿。
这个过程通常是这样的：
在边境或其他专门的地方申请庇护
被送到几百英里外的格拉斯哥，住在民宿里。最初阶段应该持续3周，但你已经在那里3个月了，所以你的孩子还在上学。
搬到加的夫，和其他几个家庭住在一个潮湿的合租房子里。
等了一年多，而孩子们被转移了，期间遭受了很多创伤。
你的庇护申请被拒绝了，而且已经被确认了，所以你需要司法审查
再等一段时间，等待司法审查的结果
HO overturns its decision, if the judicial review is accepted, rather than go to court.
After 2 years of this, you get your papers, completely worn down and now have to approach your council/housing executive for housing. You can choose where you’re living now, but you don’t know anyone or where to go.
Live in more temporary accommodation, while looking for jobs and your knowledge of English isn’t great. There’s not much support, so you keep on going.
Oftentimes, it’s stage 1 to 4, but can end like this:
Get refused asylum and turned down for a judicial review (most cases are refused by the courts anyway)
You have no money and nowhere to go. Your own country isn’t safe to return to, you can’t work, rent (England) or use most NHS services (England).
You have to find your way out of the mess, with no support and kids to feed. Whether it’s illegally working, a relationship or complete reliance on charity and the most insecure of housing.
如果司法审查被接受，内政部将推翻其决定，而不是诉诸法庭。
这样过了2年，你拿到了你的已经被完全磨损了的文件，现在必须向你的委员会/住房行政部门申请住房。你可以选择现在住在哪里，但你不认识任何人，也不知道该去哪里。
住在临时住所，同时找工作，你的英语知识不是很好。没有太多的支持，所以你继续前进。
通常情况下，这是第1到第4阶段，但结局可能是这样的：
被拒绝庇护并被拒绝司法审查（大多数个案无论如何都被法院拒绝）
你没钱，又无处可去。回到自己的国家不安全，你不能工作，不能租房（英国），也不能使用大多数医疗体系服务（英国）。
你必须在没有支持，还有孩子要养的情况下找到摆脱困境的方法。无论是非法工作，有关系，还是完全依赖慈善机构，以及最不安全的住房。
After 2 years of this, you get your papers, completely worn down and now have to approach your council/housing executive for housing. You can choose where you’re living now, but you don’t know anyone or where to go.
Live in more temporary accommodation, while looking for jobs and your knowledge of English isn’t great. There’s not much support, so you keep on going.
Oftentimes, it’s stage 1 to 4, but can end like this:
Get refused asylum and turned down for a judicial review (most cases are refused by the courts anyway)
You have no money and nowhere to go. Your own country isn’t safe to return to, you can’t work, rent (England) or use most NHS services (England).
You have to find your way out of the mess, with no support and kids to feed. Whether it’s illegally working, a relationship or complete reliance on charity and the most insecure of housing.
如果司法审查被接受，内政部将推翻其决定，而不是诉诸法庭。
这样过了2年，你拿到了你的已经被完全磨损了的文件，现在必须向你的委员会/住房行政部门申请住房。你可以选择现在住在哪里，但你不认识任何人，也不知道该去哪里。
住在临时住所，同时找工作，你的英语知识不是很好。没有太多的支持，所以你继续前进。
通常情况下，这是第1到第4阶段，但结局可能是这样的：
被拒绝庇护并被拒绝司法审查（大多数个案无论如何都被法院拒绝）
你没钱，又无处可去。回到自己的国家不安全，你不能工作，不能租房（英国），也不能使用大多数医疗体系服务（英国）。
你必须在没有支持，还有孩子要养的情况下找到摆脱困境的方法。无论是非法工作，有关系，还是完全依赖慈善机构，以及最不安全的住房。
fromacaddy77
It's still better than a campsite in France.
还是比法国的露营地更好。
It's still better than a campsite in France.
还是比法国的露营地更好。
sickofsnails
You seem to want a race to the absolute worse standards. You also don’t seem to know about the asylum system.
你似乎想要一场更糟糕的比赛。你似乎也不了解庇护制度。
You seem to want a race to the absolute worse standards. You also don’t seem to know about the asylum system.
你似乎想要一场更糟糕的比赛。你似乎也不了解庇护制度。
fromacaddy77
Tell me what I need to know then about the asylum system.
告诉我关于庇护制度我需要知道些什么。
Tell me what I need to know then about the asylum system.
告诉我关于庇护制度我需要知道些什么。
sickofsnails
There are plenty of sources that will do that, dedicated to helping asylum seekers. There are also many examples online of the conditions many families are living in.
France’s asylum system seeks to return people to where they’re suspected to have been. Oftentimes, they’re held in local police stations for a few days, or go straight to an immigration detention centre. It’s supposed to be for 90 days, but people often go straight back in to do another 90, then another 90.
The system differs to ours, because if the government can’t return them to another country, they’re often allowed to work and get a temporary permit.
Their homeless system is entirely overloaded, but anyone is allowed to seek accommodation. It doesn’t matter what your legal status is. However, because there isn’t enough temporary housing, it means that people are often using abandoned buildings and forming their own communities.
France also has a different approach to healthcare and there’s a type of mutuelle for universal insurance coverage, but it’s oftentimes not fit for purpose and can be difficult to get if your living circumstances are nomadic, or you can’t prove stability. You don’t actually have to be living in France legally to apply though.
The UK’s asylum system is kinder than France, but both are thoroughly unpleasant and soul-destroying.
有很多资源会做这事的，致力于帮助寻求庇护者。网上也有许多关于那些家庭生活状况的例子。
法国的庇护制度试图将人们送回他们被怀疑去过的地方。通常情况下，他们会被关押在当地警察局几天，或者直接被送往移民拘留中心。它应该是90天，但人们经常直接回去蹭另一个90天，然后再去蹭另一个90天。
这个体系与我们的不同，因为如果政府不能将他们送回另一个国家，他们通常可以工作并获得临时许可证。
他们的无家可归者体系完全超负荷了，但任何人都可以寻求住宿。你的法律地位如何并不重要。然而，由于没有足够的临时住房，这意味着人们经常使用废弃的建筑，组建自己的社区。
法国在医疗保健方面也有不同的做法，有一种通用保险，但通常不适合目的，如果你的生活环境是居无定所的，或者你不能证明你的稳定性，就很难获得。不过，你并不需要在法国合法居住才能申请。
英国的庇护制度比法国更友善，但两者都令人完全不愉快，而且会摧毁灵魂。
There are plenty of sources that will do that, dedicated to helping asylum seekers. There are also many examples online of the conditions many families are living in.
France’s asylum system seeks to return people to where they’re suspected to have been. Oftentimes, they’re held in local police stations for a few days, or go straight to an immigration detention centre. It’s supposed to be for 90 days, but people often go straight back in to do another 90, then another 90.
The system differs to ours, because if the government can’t return them to another country, they’re often allowed to work and get a temporary permit.
Their homeless system is entirely overloaded, but anyone is allowed to seek accommodation. It doesn’t matter what your legal status is. However, because there isn’t enough temporary housing, it means that people are often using abandoned buildings and forming their own communities.
France also has a different approach to healthcare and there’s a type of mutuelle for universal insurance coverage, but it’s oftentimes not fit for purpose and can be difficult to get if your living circumstances are nomadic, or you can’t prove stability. You don’t actually have to be living in France legally to apply though.
The UK’s asylum system is kinder than France, but both are thoroughly unpleasant and soul-destroying.
有很多资源会做这事的，致力于帮助寻求庇护者。网上也有许多关于那些家庭生活状况的例子。
法国的庇护制度试图将人们送回他们被怀疑去过的地方。通常情况下，他们会被关押在当地警察局几天，或者直接被送往移民拘留中心。它应该是90天，但人们经常直接回去蹭另一个90天，然后再去蹭另一个90天。
这个体系与我们的不同，因为如果政府不能将他们送回另一个国家，他们通常可以工作并获得临时许可证。
他们的无家可归者体系完全超负荷了，但任何人都可以寻求住宿。你的法律地位如何并不重要。然而，由于没有足够的临时住房，这意味着人们经常使用废弃的建筑，组建自己的社区。
法国在医疗保健方面也有不同的做法，有一种通用保险，但通常不适合目的，如果你的生活环境是居无定所的，或者你不能证明你的稳定性，就很难获得。不过，你并不需要在法国合法居住才能申请。
英国的庇护制度比法国更友善，但两者都令人完全不愉快，而且会摧毁灵魂。
TheNewHobbes
The government cuts funding for the asylum service on purpose to create a backlog of cases so they can funnel tax payer money to friends in the hotel industry while publicly saying how it's terrible to spend so much money on it to create a dog whistle issue for simple minded supporters to rally around.
政府故意削减庇护服务的资金，造成个案积压，这样他们就可以把纳税人的钱交给酒店行业的朋友，同时公开说花这么多钱是多么可怕，好让头脑简单的支持者团结起来。
The government cuts funding for the asylum service on purpose to create a backlog of cases so they can funnel tax payer money to friends in the hotel industry while publicly saying how it's terrible to spend so much money on it to create a dog whistle issue for simple minded supporters to rally around.
政府故意削减庇护服务的资金，造成个案积压，这样他们就可以把纳税人的钱交给酒店行业的朋友，同时公开说花这么多钱是多么可怕，好让头脑简单的支持者团结起来。
asjitshot
You should actually read the article that even the Guardian can't sugarcoat.
"Concerns highlighted in the report include that:
More than half complain of overcrowding, a lack of privacy and having to spend more than six months living in a hotel. Some single adults have spent more than two and a half years in hotels."
With all due respect we have actual UK citizens struggling to make ends meet and yet these people are complaining because they're living in a hotel and they're being given not just food but a weekly allowance?! Maybe actually speak to the people stopping in the hotels with the migrants and see what they actually think of the UK and its citizens, according to reports they not only hurl insults but even go out of their way to piss and shit in the hallways...
May I also remind many that the "mothers and children" are a tiny minority of the migrants who are in fact men of fighting age some of which are from Albania which isn't even at war and are purely economic migrants here to further strain our resources, I won't even mention the crime increase in areas with a high number of migrants.
I'm sure some are genuinely good people.. but it's hard to feel sorry for those when they've skipped so many countries along the way to come here simply because our benefits are the highest.
Off to Rwanda you fuck.
你真该读读这篇连《卫报》都粉饰不了的文章。
“报告中强调的关切包括：
1、超过半数的人抱怨酒店过于拥挤、缺乏隐私以及不得不在酒店里住6个多月。一些单身成年人在酒店里住了两年半以上”
恕我直言，我们有真正的英国公民在艰难地维持生计，但这些人却在因为他们住在酒店里，他们不仅得到食物，还得到每周的津贴抱怨？！也许真的可以和那些和移民一起住在酒店的人谈谈，看看他们对英国和英国公民的真实看法。据报道，这些人不仅辱骂他们，甚至还在走廊里大小便……
我还想提醒大家，“母亲和孩子”只是移民中很小的一部分，他们实际上是战斗年龄的男性，其中一些人来自阿尔巴尼亚，甚至没有战争，纯粹是经济移民，进一步让我们的资源紧张，我甚至还没提到高移民数量地区的犯罪率上升。
我相信有些人是真正的好人。但是，当他们仅仅因为我们的好处最多而跳过这么多国家来到这里时，我们很难为他们感到遗憾。
滚到卢旺达去，你们这些混蛋。
You should actually read the article that even the Guardian can't sugarcoat.
"Concerns highlighted in the report include that:
More than half complain of overcrowding, a lack of privacy and having to spend more than six months living in a hotel. Some single adults have spent more than two and a half years in hotels."
With all due respect we have actual UK citizens struggling to make ends meet and yet these people are complaining because they're living in a hotel and they're being given not just food but a weekly allowance?! Maybe actually speak to the people stopping in the hotels with the migrants and see what they actually think of the UK and its citizens, according to reports they not only hurl insults but even go out of their way to piss and shit in the hallways...
May I also remind many that the "mothers and children" are a tiny minority of the migrants who are in fact men of fighting age some of which are from Albania which isn't even at war and are purely economic migrants here to further strain our resources, I won't even mention the crime increase in areas with a high number of migrants.
I'm sure some are genuinely good people.. but it's hard to feel sorry for those when they've skipped so many countries along the way to come here simply because our benefits are the highest.
Off to Rwanda you fuck.
你真该读读这篇连《卫报》都粉饰不了的文章。
“报告中强调的关切包括：
1、超过半数的人抱怨酒店过于拥挤、缺乏隐私以及不得不在酒店里住6个多月。一些单身成年人在酒店里住了两年半以上”
恕我直言，我们有真正的英国公民在艰难地维持生计，但这些人却在因为他们住在酒店里，他们不仅得到食物，还得到每周的津贴抱怨？！也许真的可以和那些和移民一起住在酒店的人谈谈，看看他们对英国和英国公民的真实看法。据报道，这些人不仅辱骂他们，甚至还在走廊里大小便……
我还想提醒大家，“母亲和孩子”只是移民中很小的一部分，他们实际上是战斗年龄的男性，其中一些人来自阿尔巴尼亚，甚至没有战争，纯粹是经济移民，进一步让我们的资源紧张，我甚至还没提到高移民数量地区的犯罪率上升。
我相信有些人是真正的好人。但是，当他们仅仅因为我们的好处最多而跳过这么多国家来到这里时，我们很难为他们感到遗憾。
滚到卢旺达去，你们这些混蛋。
No_Independent1007
Well if you don’t like it. Don’t come here illegally.
好的，如果你不喜欢这样的话。就不要非法入境。
Well if you don’t like it. Don’t come here illegally.
好的，如果你不喜欢这样的话。就不要非法入境。
kramer2006
Do these people leave their home countries,cross lots of safe countries just to claim asylum in UK?I don't really follow news or politics so I don't know.
这些人离开他们的祖国，穿越许多安全的国家只是为了在英国寻求庇护吗？我不太关注新闻和政治，所以我不知道。
Do these people leave their home countries,cross lots of safe countries just to claim asylum in UK?I don't really follow news or politics so I don't know.
这些人离开他们的祖国，穿越许多安全的国家只是为了在英国寻求庇护吗？我不太关注新闻和政治，所以我不知道。
fromacaddy77
Good! The sooner we get these flights to Rwanda up and running the better.
很好！飞往卢旺达的航班越早开通越好。
Good! The sooner we get these flights to Rwanda up and running the better.
很好！飞往卢旺达的航班越早开通越好。
Warrrdy
Why?
为什么呢？
Why?
为什么呢？
fromacaddy77
To do what they're designed to do - act as a deterrent. If as soon as these people are brought ashore on the south coast they are swiftly taken to a plane and flown to Rwanda and their asylum claim processed from there I'm sure we'll see the number of people making the crossing from France rapidly reduce. Once you eliminate the chance of being able to abscond from a UK hotel and disappearing into society before an asylum decision has been made the number of people crossing the channel will reduce.
做他们该做的事——起到威慑作用。一旦这些人被带到南部海岸上岸，他们就会被迅速送上飞机，飞往卢旺达，他们的庇护申请在那里得到处理，这样一来我相信我们会看到从法国越境的人数迅速减少。一旦你消除了在庇护决定做出之前从英国酒店潜逃并消失在社会中的机会，穿越英吉利海峡的人数就会减少。
To do what they're designed to do - act as a deterrent. If as soon as these people are brought ashore on the south coast they are swiftly taken to a plane and flown to Rwanda and their asylum claim processed from there I'm sure we'll see the number of people making the crossing from France rapidly reduce. Once you eliminate the chance of being able to abscond from a UK hotel and disappearing into society before an asylum decision has been made the number of people crossing the channel will reduce.
做他们该做的事——起到威慑作用。一旦这些人被带到南部海岸上岸，他们就会被迅速送上飞机，飞往卢旺达，他们的庇护申请在那里得到处理，这样一来我相信我们会看到从法国越境的人数迅速减少。一旦你消除了在庇护决定做出之前从英国酒店潜逃并消失在社会中的机会，穿越英吉利海峡的人数就会减少。
Warrrdy
Why do you feel it’s necessary to process asylum claims in Rwanda instead of this country?
Even if you can get past the inhumanity of treating refugees like cattle it seems like a massive waste of money. Do a bit of research on who ends up making money from housing refugees in hotels, they’re making a killing.
Our asylum system is a mess and we’re processing much fewer people than we’re capable of doing. The system is an issue, not the people.
为什么你觉得有必要在卢旺达而不是美国处理庇护申请？
即使你能克服像对待牲畜一样对待难民的不人道，这似乎也是一种巨大的金钱浪费。你只要调查一下谁靠给难民提供酒店住宿来赚钱，他们正在大赚特赚。
我们的庇护制度一团糟，我们处理的人比我们能够处理的要少得多。问题出在制度，而不是人。
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Why do you feel it’s necessary to process asylum claims in Rwanda instead of this country?
Even if you can get past the inhumanity of treating refugees like cattle it seems like a massive waste of money. Do a bit of research on who ends up making money from housing refugees in hotels, they’re making a killing.
Our asylum system is a mess and we’re processing much fewer people than we’re capable of doing. The system is an issue, not the people.
为什么你觉得有必要在卢旺达而不是美国处理庇护申请？
即使你能克服像对待牲畜一样对待难民的不人道，这似乎也是一种巨大的金钱浪费。你只要调查一下谁靠给难民提供酒店住宿来赚钱，他们正在大赚特赚。
我们的庇护制度一团糟，我们处理的人比我们能够处理的要少得多。问题出在制度，而不是人。
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fromacaddy77
"Why do you feel it’s necessary to process asylum claims in Rwanda instead of this country?"
Like I said in my earlier reply, it will act as a deterrent. There's a large percentage of asylum seekers who have no intention of going through with their asylum claim, purely because it's highly likely it will be rejected. So their intention is to get to the UK, claim asylum, stay in a hotel for a while and when the time is right abscond. Therefore if within a couple of days of arriving in the UK they are moved to accommodation in Rwanda the chance of absconding in the UK has gone.
“为什么你觉得有必要在卢旺达而不是美国处理庇护申请？”
正如我在之前的答复中所说，这将起到威慑作用。有很大比例的庇护寻求者无意申报庇护申请，纯粹是因为申请很可能会被拒绝。所以他们的目的是去英国，申请庇护，在酒店住一段时间，等时机成熟时就潜逃。因此，如果在到达英国的几天内，他们就被转移到卢旺达的住所，在英国潜逃的机会就没有了。
"Why do you feel it’s necessary to process asylum claims in Rwanda instead of this country?"
Like I said in my earlier reply, it will act as a deterrent. There's a large percentage of asylum seekers who have no intention of going through with their asylum claim, purely because it's highly likely it will be rejected. So their intention is to get to the UK, claim asylum, stay in a hotel for a while and when the time is right abscond. Therefore if within a couple of days of arriving in the UK they are moved to accommodation in Rwanda the chance of absconding in the UK has gone.
“为什么你觉得有必要在卢旺达而不是美国处理庇护申请？”
正如我在之前的答复中所说，这将起到威慑作用。有很大比例的庇护寻求者无意申报庇护申请，纯粹是因为申请很可能会被拒绝。所以他们的目的是去英国，申请庇护，在酒店住一段时间，等时机成熟时就潜逃。因此，如果在到达英国的几天内，他们就被转移到卢旺达的住所，在英国潜逃的机会就没有了。
Complex_Air8
Honestly a bit jealous of this from an American perspective.
In America people are abusing the asylum system and our gov just releases them into the interior of the country.
老实说，从美国人的角度来看，我有点嫉妒。
在美国，人们在滥用庇护制度，我们的政府只是把他们释放到国内（而不是送去非洲）。
Honestly a bit jealous of this from an American perspective.
In America people are abusing the asylum system and our gov just releases them into the interior of the country.
老实说，从美国人的角度来看，我有点嫉妒。
在美国，人们在滥用庇护制度，我们的政府只是把他们释放到国内（而不是送去非洲）。
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