本田CEO：中国已经领先我们，程度甚至超过了预期
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Zurin Arctus
At least, there's a realistic Japanese automaker. Toyota and other automakers have been doubling down on the anti-EV hatred.
至少，还有一个现实的日本汽车制造商。丰田和其他汽车制造商一直在煽动对电动汽车的仇恨。
At least, there's a realistic Japanese automaker. Toyota and other automakers have been doubling down on the anti-EV hatred.
至少，还有一个现实的日本汽车制造商。丰田和其他汽车制造商一直在煽动对电动汽车的仇恨。
Angki Hermawan
The history always repeat itself. Once someone become big, they become careless, negligent, and wrong headed.
历史总是在重演。一旦一个人变强了，他就会变得粗心、疏忽、误入歧途。
The history always repeat itself. Once someone become big, they become careless, negligent, and wrong headed.
历史总是在重演。一旦一个人变强了，他就会变得粗心、疏忽、误入歧途。
Mike l
angkih3 · Correct. Toyota is the next Kodak. The rest of them, Nissan, Honda, Mazda, Subaru, etc will either go bankrupt or will be bought by the Chinese.
正确。丰田是下一个柯达。剩下的，日产、本田、马自达、斯巴鲁等，要么破产，要么被中国人收购。
angkih3 · Correct. Toyota is the next Kodak. The rest of them, Nissan, Honda, Mazda, Subaru, etc will either go bankrupt or will be bought by the Chinese.
正确。丰田是下一个柯达。剩下的，日产、本田、马自达、斯巴鲁等，要么破产，要么被中国人收购。
Gus Levy
“Can you explain what you're saying?” - Nokia
“你能解释一下你在说什么吗？”——诺基亚
“Can you explain what you're saying?” - Nokia
“你能解释一下你在说什么吗？”——诺基亚
Carnutzjoe
For political and prestige reasons the Japanese government might step in and negotiate a merger of the Japanese companies. A new bloated conglomerate could result. Like a Japanese British Leyland.
出于政治和声望的原因，日本政府可能会介入，并就日本公司的合并进行谈判。结果可能是诞生一个新的臃肿的企业集团。就像日本的英国利兰。
For political and prestige reasons the Japanese government might step in and negotiate a merger of the Japanese companies. A new bloated conglomerate could result. Like a Japanese British Leyland.
出于政治和声望的原因，日本政府可能会介入，并就日本公司的合并进行谈判。结果可能是诞生一个新的臃肿的企业集团。就像日本的英国利兰。
Chaz 4
Jai Hinduja. Ice makers from Japanese, Korean, European countries have plenty of opportunities around but choose not to act now. There are hundreds or even thousands of underfunded quality Chinese EV companies with technologies that can be picked up on the cheap. No need to reinvent the wheel.
印度万岁。日本、韩国、和欧洲国家的传统汽车制造商有很多机会，但他们选择按兵不动。中国有数百甚至数千家资金不足的优质电动汽车公司，它们的技术可以被廉价收购。没有必要重新发明轮子。
Jai Hinduja. Ice makers from Japanese, Korean, European countries have plenty of opportunities around but choose not to act now. There are hundreds or even thousands of underfunded quality Chinese EV companies with technologies that can be picked up on the cheap. No need to reinvent the wheel.
印度万岁。日本、韩国、和欧洲国家的传统汽车制造商有很多机会，但他们选择按兵不动。中国有数百甚至数千家资金不足的优质电动汽车公司，它们的技术可以被廉价收购。没有必要重新发明轮子。
Ricky Bosephus
So, your electric care is powered by a gas burning generator but honda, who makes energy directly at the source, is bad? I don't get it. Your electric car runs on fossil fuel also, so what's your beef? Oh yea, you are not good at math or thinking? were you sick the day they taught thermodynamics?
所以，你的电动汽车是由燃气发电机驱动的，但本田，直接从源头制造能源，就是不对的？我不明白。你的电动汽车也是用化石燃料的，你有什么不满吗？哦，是的，你不擅长数学和思考？他们教热力学的那天你病了？
So, your electric care is powered by a gas burning generator but honda, who makes energy directly at the source, is bad? I don't get it. Your electric car runs on fossil fuel also, so what's your beef? Oh yea, you are not good at math or thinking? were you sick the day they taught thermodynamics?
所以，你的电动汽车是由燃气发电机驱动的，但本田，直接从源头制造能源，就是不对的？我不明白。你的电动汽车也是用化石燃料的，你有什么不满吗？哦，是的，你不擅长数学和思考？他们教热力学的那天你病了？
Forgotten World
Honda and Toyota: they lost a lot of time into the hydrogen scam, and also doing misinformation and making nothing about EVs.
本田和丰田：他们在氢燃料骗局上浪费了太多时间，还制造了很多误导信息，对电动汽车一无所知。
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Honda and Toyota: they lost a lot of time into the hydrogen scam, and also doing misinformation and making nothing about EVs.
本田和丰田：他们在氢燃料骗局上浪费了太多时间，还制造了很多误导信息，对电动汽车一无所知。
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chijen2010
Remember SONY Trinitron?? That's HONDA
还记得索尼的特丽珑吗？那就是本田的未来
Remember SONY Trinitron?? That's HONDA
还记得索尼的特丽珑吗？那就是本田的未来
Andy Golesworthy
Honda had a massive factory in the UK manufacturing good quality cars for Europe, then they closed it a couple of years ago. This facility would have been ideal to convert to EV manufacturing.
本田在英国有一家大型工厂，为欧洲生产高质量的汽车，几年前他们关闭了这家工厂。这个工厂本来是转为电动汽车制造的理想选择。
Honda had a massive factory in the UK manufacturing good quality cars for Europe, then they closed it a couple of years ago. This facility would have been ideal to convert to EV manufacturing.
本田在英国有一家大型工厂，为欧洲生产高质量的汽车，几年前他们关闭了这家工厂。这个工厂本来是转为电动汽车制造的理想选择。
edenviews
Yes, Swindon was massive. I did a bit of work there.
是的，史温顿工厂很大。我在那里做了些工作。
Yes, Swindon was massive. I did a bit of work there.
是的，史温顿工厂很大。我在那里做了些工作。
fenrirgg
If UK were still in the EU
如果英国还在欧盟的话
If UK were still in the EU
如果英国还在欧盟的话
Graham Castle
Brexit knackered that possibility
英国脱欧摧毁了这种可能性
Brexit knackered that possibility
英国脱欧摧毁了这种可能性
Larry C
Brexit = Tariffs
英国脱欧=增加关税
Brexit = Tariffs
英国脱欧=增加关税
Constantine Ding
For what?
Honda doesn't even have a competitive EV model for the factory to produce.
可能吗？
本田甚至都没有一款有竞争力的电动汽车车型供工厂生产。
For what?
Honda doesn't even have a competitive EV model for the factory to produce.
可能吗？
本田甚至都没有一款有竞争力的电动汽车车型供工厂生产。
Rozonoe Mi
Honda partnering with GM, is like the blind leading the blind!
本田与通用的合作，就像盲人领着盲人！
Honda partnering with GM, is like the blind leading the blind!
本田与通用的合作，就像盲人领着盲人！
Black Knight
It's like joining the Nazi party in 1945!
这就像1945年加入纳粹党一样！
It's like joining the Nazi party in 1945!
这就像1945年加入纳粹党一样！
Michael L
Japan had missed out on trends before. It missed out on the smartphone revolution. Now it's probably going to miss out on the EV car revolution too. This is too bad for Japan. As the saying goes: that train has left the station.
日本以前也曾错过潮流，它错过了智能手机革命。现在，它可能也会错过电动汽车革命。这对日本来说太糟糕了。俗话说：那列火车已经离站了。
Japan had missed out on trends before. It missed out on the smartphone revolution. Now it's probably going to miss out on the EV car revolution too. This is too bad for Japan. As the saying goes: that train has left the station.
日本以前也曾错过潮流，它错过了智能手机革命。现在，它可能也会错过电动汽车革命。这对日本来说太糟糕了。俗话说：那列火车已经离站了。
Kenny Lam
Put it this way. Honda suffers from the same sickness of many successful companies. It assumes the world would change at a measured pace that it is comfortable with and can manage. It thinks it has no business in the wild west of the EVs, with crazy gambling of corporate funds on something that is in the future. EVs ventures were nightmares for corporate planners who liked predictable market.
这么说吧。本田患上了许多成功公司所患的同样的疾病。它假定世界将以一种它感到舒适并且能够控制的速度发生变化。它认为自己在电动汽车的狂野西部没有前景，不愿意把企业资金疯狂地押在未来的东西上。对于喜欢可预测市场的企业规划者来说，电动汽车投资是噩梦。
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Put it this way. Honda suffers from the same sickness of many successful companies. It assumes the world would change at a measured pace that it is comfortable with and can manage. It thinks it has no business in the wild west of the EVs, with crazy gambling of corporate funds on something that is in the future. EVs ventures were nightmares for corporate planners who liked predictable market.
这么说吧。本田患上了许多成功公司所患的同样的疾病。它假定世界将以一种它感到舒适并且能够控制的速度发生变化。它认为自己在电动汽车的狂野西部没有前景，不愿意把企业资金疯狂地押在未来的东西上。对于喜欢可预测市场的企业规划者来说，电动汽车投资是噩梦。
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zeljo024
They had documentaries (Who Killed the Electric Car? and Revenge of the Electric Car) from almost 20 years ago, that say exactly what most people think about electric vehicles. They themselves are to blame for everything what happens to them, because they could accurately predict what the future will bee. Yes, you have one of the most advanced technologies for internal combustion engines, but what does that mean if it's not the future. My opinion that it is for theirs current situation is the fault of greedy managers, who have been bribed with big money from the oil industry.
他们有纪录片《谁杀死了电动车?》和《电动汽车的复仇》，这正是大多数人对电动汽车的看法。他们自己应该为发生在他们身上的一切负责，因为他们觉得可以准确预测未来会是什么样子。是的，你拥有最先进的内燃机技术之一，但如果这不是未来，那又有什么意义呢？我的看法是，他们目前的状况是贪婪的管理者的错，他们从石油行业收受了大笔资金。
They had documentaries (Who Killed the Electric Car? and Revenge of the Electric Car) from almost 20 years ago, that say exactly what most people think about electric vehicles. They themselves are to blame for everything what happens to them, because they could accurately predict what the future will bee. Yes, you have one of the most advanced technologies for internal combustion engines, but what does that mean if it's not the future. My opinion that it is for theirs current situation is the fault of greedy managers, who have been bribed with big money from the oil industry.
他们有纪录片《谁杀死了电动车?》和《电动汽车的复仇》，这正是大多数人对电动汽车的看法。他们自己应该为发生在他们身上的一切负责，因为他们觉得可以准确预测未来会是什么样子。是的，你拥有最先进的内燃机技术之一，但如果这不是未来，那又有什么意义呢？我的看法是，他们目前的状况是贪婪的管理者的错，他们从石油行业收受了大笔资金。
Recurve Archer
Hi Sam,
Thankyou.
Hybrid car's are looking a little like , when we moved from horses to ICE , you hitched the horse to the back bumper in case the engine stopped.
It would be frightening to be the CEO of Honda, Toyota and others and realising as you put it Sam we are screwed.
Kodak CEOs felt the same way when we ditched film for digital.
Excellent analogy you catch up to the goal post's only to find they've now moved down to the next field.
Great posts
嗨，山姆，
谢谢你。
混合动力汽车看起来有点像，当我们从马转向内燃机时，你把马拴在后保险杠上以防引擎坏了。
如果你是本田、丰田和其他公司的首席执行官，然后意识到我们搞砸了，这太可怕了。
柯达的首席执行官们在我们抛弃胶片转向数码产品时也有同样的感受。
很好的类比，你跑到了门柱边，却发现其他人已经到下一个场地去了。
本期话题不错
Hi Sam,
Thankyou.
Hybrid car's are looking a little like , when we moved from horses to ICE , you hitched the horse to the back bumper in case the engine stopped.
It would be frightening to be the CEO of Honda, Toyota and others and realising as you put it Sam we are screwed.
Kodak CEOs felt the same way when we ditched film for digital.
Excellent analogy you catch up to the goal post's only to find they've now moved down to the next field.
Great posts
嗨，山姆，
谢谢你。
混合动力汽车看起来有点像，当我们从马转向内燃机时，你把马拴在后保险杠上以防引擎坏了。
如果你是本田、丰田和其他公司的首席执行官，然后意识到我们搞砸了，这太可怕了。
柯达的首席执行官们在我们抛弃胶片转向数码产品时也有同样的感受。
很好的类比，你跑到了门柱边，却发现其他人已经到下一个场地去了。
本期话题不错
Lawrence Dunn
It's not unusual for staff from other companies to be interested in what the competition are doing. I've gone to motor shows and literally crawled under the oppositions cars to see things of interest on a competitor vehicle that I've been working on.
其他公司的员工对竞争对手的动向感兴趣是很正常的。我曾经参加过车展，爬到对手的汽车下面去看看有什么有趣的东西没有。
It's not unusual for staff from other companies to be interested in what the competition are doing. I've gone to motor shows and literally crawled under the oppositions cars to see things of interest on a competitor vehicle that I've been working on.
其他公司的员工对竞争对手的动向感兴趣是很正常的。我曾经参加过车展，爬到对手的汽车下面去看看有什么有趣的东西没有。
Matt Brown
old fashioned Chinese consumers are still buying ICE from foreign heritage brands, but those Chinese consumers of younger generations are looking to get something new, an EV, and Chinese brands are the first thing that comes into their mind, and maybe Tesla, but even Tesla is slowly getting phased out in that regard
传统的中国消费者仍然会购买外国传统品牌的内燃机汽车，但年轻一代的中国消费者正在寻求新的东西，电动汽车，中国品牌是他们的首选，或者可能是特斯拉，但特斯拉在这方面也在慢慢被淘汰。
old fashioned Chinese consumers are still buying ICE from foreign heritage brands, but those Chinese consumers of younger generations are looking to get something new, an EV, and Chinese brands are the first thing that comes into their mind, and maybe Tesla, but even Tesla is slowly getting phased out in that regard
传统的中国消费者仍然会购买外国传统品牌的内燃机汽车，但年轻一代的中国消费者正在寻求新的东西，电动汽车，中国品牌是他们的首选，或者可能是特斯拉，但特斯拉在这方面也在慢慢被淘汰。
Rozonoe Mi
ICE vehicle sales in China, are in big trouble. There are thoulsand of ICE cars sitting in field, because they can't sell them!
内燃机汽车在中国的销售遇到了大麻烦。有成千上万的内燃机汽车停在野外，因为卖不出去！
ICE vehicle sales in China, are in big trouble. There are thoulsand of ICE cars sitting in field, because they can't sell them!
内燃机汽车在中国的销售遇到了大麻烦。有成千上万的内燃机汽车停在野外，因为卖不出去！
Loren Merriman
Western and Japanese brands need to be more aggressive about EV development to keep up with China's rapid evolution, said LMC's Zeng. "The model they bring to China lags behind Chinese models by three or four years in driving range and equipment,” Zeng said ... The equipment has been a key issue against Western and Japanese brands for ICE over the past few years, too
LMC的曾先生表示，西方和日本品牌需要更加积极地发展电动汽车，以跟上中国的快速发展。“他们带到中国的车型在行驶里程和配件上落后于中国车型三到四年，”曾说。在过去几年里，配件也是对抗西方和日本传统汽车品牌的一个关键因素。
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Western and Japanese brands need to be more aggressive about EV development to keep up with China's rapid evolution, said LMC's Zeng. "The model they bring to China lags behind Chinese models by three or four years in driving range and equipment,” Zeng said ... The equipment has been a key issue against Western and Japanese brands for ICE over the past few years, too
LMC的曾先生表示，西方和日本品牌需要更加积极地发展电动汽车，以跟上中国的快速发展。“他们带到中国的车型在行驶里程和配件上落后于中国车型三到四年，”曾说。在过去几年里，配件也是对抗西方和日本传统汽车品牌的一个关键因素。
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Martin 11
Cuz chinese automobiles are cheap and innovative compared to european and certain parts of american cars, but a key factor is their affordable price, which makes them accesible to europeans, americans and ppl in developing countries who constitute a large portion of the population. This gives them an adventahe in all aspects when compared to western cars.
因为与欧洲和美国汽车的某些部件相比，中国汽车便宜而创新，但一个关键因素是它们的价格实惠，这使得欧洲人、美国人和发展中国家的人都能买得起，他们占人口的很大一部分。这使他们在各方面与西方汽车相比都有优势。
Cuz chinese automobiles are cheap and innovative compared to european and certain parts of american cars, but a key factor is their affordable price, which makes them accesible to europeans, americans and ppl in developing countries who constitute a large portion of the population. This gives them an adventahe in all aspects when compared to western cars.
因为与欧洲和美国汽车的某些部件相比，中国汽车便宜而创新，但一个关键因素是它们的价格实惠，这使得欧洲人、美国人和发展中国家的人都能买得起，他们占人口的很大一部分。这使他们在各方面与西方汽车相比都有优势。
Juan Martin
Yes
是这样的
Yes
是这样的
steve taylor
Seems like Japanese car companies are all in a similar boat: waste a decade on hydrogen, realize that they're screwed, and start talking about magic battery tech that will somehow leapfrog the competition while they slowly die.
日本汽车公司似乎都在一条船上：在氢燃料上浪费了十年时间，终于意识到他们要完蛋了，然后开始谈论神奇的电池技术，想以某种方式超越竞争对手，与此同时，他们正在慢慢地死去。
Seems like Japanese car companies are all in a similar boat: waste a decade on hydrogen, realize that they're screwed, and start talking about magic battery tech that will somehow leapfrog the competition while they slowly die.
日本汽车公司似乎都在一条船上：在氢燃料上浪费了十年时间，终于意识到他们要完蛋了，然后开始谈论神奇的电池技术，想以某种方式超越竞争对手，与此同时，他们正在慢慢地死去。
free lance
To be honest, legacy industry cannot fight back.
They are like human, they gets old and they die a slow death or a quick death.
And new industry replaces them. Example: Kodak gone, Nokia gone, Netscape gone, MySpace gone ... etc
说实话，传统产业无法反击。
他们就像人类一样，会变老，会慢慢地走向死亡，或迅速地死亡。
新的产业取代了它们。例如：柯达走了，诺基亚走了，网景走了，MySpace走了……等等
To be honest, legacy industry cannot fight back.
They are like human, they gets old and they die a slow death or a quick death.
And new industry replaces them. Example: Kodak gone, Nokia gone, Netscape gone, MySpace gone ... etc
说实话，传统产业无法反击。
他们就像人类一样，会变老，会慢慢地走向死亡，或迅速地死亡。
新的产业取代了它们。例如：柯达走了，诺基亚走了，网景走了，MySpace走了……等等
Larry C
Blockbuster, taxis, sears, bbb...
百视达、出租车、西尔斯、等等……
Blockbuster, taxis, sears, bbb...
百视达、出租车、西尔斯、等等……
Steven Gouletas
it's like racing Usain bolt when he's got a 20-meter lead and he's racing against high school students
这就像领先20米的尤塞恩·博尔特和高中生比赛一样。
（译者注：尤塞恩·博尔特Usain bolt，是男子100米、200米世界纪录保持者）
it's like racing Usain bolt when he's got a 20-meter lead and he's racing against high school students
这就像领先20米的尤塞恩·博尔特和高中生比赛一样。
（译者注：尤塞恩·博尔特Usain bolt，是男子100米、200米世界纪录保持者）
Black Knight
20 meters? Steven? I think it's at least 60 meters ahead.
20米？我想至少领先60米。
20 meters? Steven? I think it's at least 60 meters ahead.
20米？我想至少领先60米。
Florestan Trément
The only hope to save Japan economy is probably to invite Tesla and Chinese brands to come and build factories there.
拯救日本经济的唯一希望，可能是邀请特斯拉和中国品牌去日本建厂。
The only hope to save Japan economy is probably to invite Tesla and Chinese brands to come and build factories there.
拯救日本经济的唯一希望，可能是邀请特斯拉和中国品牌去日本建厂。
VRSTAR_YT
Na it will be not to ban petrol in there country
他们不会禁止汽油的
Na it will be not to ban petrol in there country
他们不会禁止汽油的
Daniel Stehura
Wrong Again
又错了
Wrong Again
又错了
Hermes Literatus
Japan is a country that's living in its past glories, and so are their automotive corporations such as Honda.
日本是一个活在曾经辉煌中的国家，他们的汽车公司例如本田也是如此。
Japan is a country that's living in its past glories, and so are their automotive corporations such as Honda.
日本是一个活在曾经辉煌中的国家，他们的汽车公司例如本田也是如此。
Ted Chandran
Jai Hinduja. After the Plaza accord, the Japanese had lost decades of economic development. On the other hand, we Indians landed our spacecraft on Mars years ago while the Japanese had just crashed their spacecraft onto the moon.
印度万岁。自广场协议后，日本几十年的经济发展都没什么起色。另一方面，我们印度人几年前就把飞船降落在了火星上，而日本人的飞船刚刚在月球坠毁了。
Jai Hinduja. After the Plaza accord, the Japanese had lost decades of economic development. On the other hand, we Indians landed our spacecraft on Mars years ago while the Japanese had just crashed their spacecraft onto the moon.
印度万岁。自广场协议后，日本几十年的经济发展都没什么起色。另一方面，我们印度人几年前就把飞船降落在了火星上，而日本人的飞船刚刚在月球坠毁了。
S H
past glory of war crime atrocities !
过去光荣的战争罪行和暴行！
past glory of war crime atrocities !
过去光荣的战争罪行和暴行！
Black Knight
They still use Fax machines....no kidding!
日本人仍然在使用传真机....我可没有开玩笑！
They still use Fax machines....no kidding!
日本人仍然在使用传真机....我可没有开玩笑！
Doug M
In addition to the worst national debt in the developed world, Japan's birth rate is now half of its death rate…they have fewer and fewer productive people to support the future economy….it's not a rosy picture!
除了发达国家中最糟糕的国家债务，日本现在的出生率是死亡率的一半，他们有生产力的支持未来经济的人越来越少....这可不是一幅美好的景象！
In addition to the worst national debt in the developed world, Japan's birth rate is now half of its death rate…they have fewer and fewer productive people to support the future economy….it's not a rosy picture!
除了发达国家中最糟糕的国家债务，日本现在的出生率是死亡率的一半，他们有生产力的支持未来经济的人越来越少....这可不是一幅美好的景象！
BikeNutt1970
Another great perspective. Enjoy your vids. All best wishes for your wife's beating her illness
另一个很棒的观点。喜欢你的视频。祝福你的妻子战胜病魔。
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Another great perspective. Enjoy your vids. All best wishes for your wife's beating her illness
另一个很棒的观点。喜欢你的视频。祝福你的妻子战胜病魔。
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Alan Cane
It's like appointing someone Captain of the Titanic AFTER it hit the iceberg.
这就像在泰坦尼克号撞上冰山后，任命某人为船长一样。
It's like appointing someone Captain of the Titanic AFTER it hit the iceberg.
这就像在泰坦尼克号撞上冰山后，任命某人为船长一样。
Liam Porter
Most of the traditional ICE brands may not be around in the future as EV takes over the world.
随着电动汽车席卷全球，大多数传统汽车品牌在未来可能不复存在。
Most of the traditional ICE brands may not be around in the future as EV takes over the world.
随着电动汽车席卷全球，大多数传统汽车品牌在未来可能不复存在。
Tom Roche
The big question is is why is research and development in Japan so far behind?
最大的问题是，为什么日本的研发如此落后？
The big question is is why is research and development in Japan so far behind?
最大的问题是，为什么日本的研发如此落后？
allesdurchprobiert
One factor might be that their population, and thus also their leaders are old. And old people tend to loose touch with the ever changing world, and become too conservative because they don't know/understand things that are too new. So they can't judge these things correctly. Then they make bad decisions. It's definitely like that in Germany.
Another factor might be that japanese companies have strict hierarchies and a strict corporate culture. Disagreeing with a higher up is career destroying. So the old leaders are surrounded by yesmen.
一个因素可能是他们的人口，因为他们的领导人也老了。老年人往往与不断变化的世界失去联系，变得过于保守，因为他们不知道也不理解太新鲜的事物。所以他们不能正确地判断这些事情。然后他们就会做出错误的决定。德国绝对是这样的。
另一个因素可能是日本公司有严格的等级制度和严格的企业文化。不同意上级的意见会毁了你的事业。因此，老领导人的周围都是应声虫。
One factor might be that their population, and thus also their leaders are old. And old people tend to loose touch with the ever changing world, and become too conservative because they don't know/understand things that are too new. So they can't judge these things correctly. Then they make bad decisions. It's definitely like that in Germany.
Another factor might be that japanese companies have strict hierarchies and a strict corporate culture. Disagreeing with a higher up is career destroying. So the old leaders are surrounded by yesmen.
一个因素可能是他们的人口，因为他们的领导人也老了。老年人往往与不断变化的世界失去联系，变得过于保守，因为他们不知道也不理解太新鲜的事物。所以他们不能正确地判断这些事情。然后他们就会做出错误的决定。德国绝对是这样的。
另一个因素可能是日本公司有严格的等级制度和严格的企业文化。不同意上级的意见会毁了你的事业。因此，老领导人的周围都是应声虫。
Faheem Abbas
Hardware over software.
That's what Japanese companies prefer for some reason
硬件重于软件。
出于某种原因，日本公司就喜欢这样。
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Hardware over software.
That's what Japanese companies prefer for some reason
硬件重于软件。
出于某种原因，日本公司就喜欢这样。
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mel leblanc
China is very rapidly becoming automaker to the world, with the largest home market base Chinese brands will completely displace the legacy Japanese and Korean brands as world export leaders.
Accepting newest ev design and production along with by far the largest battery makers, Chinese brands have leapfrogged legacy automakers and will very quickly take a huge share of the global auto sales. Japan and Korea will lose much of their export market to better and cheaper Chinese brands...very clear!
中国正在迅速地成为世界汽车制造商，拥有最大的国内市场基础，中国品牌将完全取代传统的日本和韩国品牌，成为世界出口的领导者。
接受最新的电动汽车的设计和生产，以及迄今为止最大的电池制造商，中国品牌已经超越了传统汽车制造商，并将很快占据全球市场的巨大份额。日本和韩国将失去大部分的出口市场，取而代之的是质量更好、价格更便宜的中国品牌……非常清楚！
China is very rapidly becoming automaker to the world, with the largest home market base Chinese brands will completely displace the legacy Japanese and Korean brands as world export leaders.
Accepting newest ev design and production along with by far the largest battery makers, Chinese brands have leapfrogged legacy automakers and will very quickly take a huge share of the global auto sales. Japan and Korea will lose much of their export market to better and cheaper Chinese brands...very clear!
中国正在迅速地成为世界汽车制造商，拥有最大的国内市场基础，中国品牌将完全取代传统的日本和韩国品牌，成为世界出口的领导者。
接受最新的电动汽车的设计和生产，以及迄今为止最大的电池制造商，中国品牌已经超越了传统汽车制造商，并将很快占据全球市场的巨大份额。日本和韩国将失去大部分的出口市场，取而代之的是质量更好、价格更便宜的中国品牌……非常清楚！
Zhang Yi
You're right. According to the first season of 2023's trading data, China just took down Japan as the world number 1 car exporter. Chinese car associate predicts that by 2030, China will reach 8 million car exportation.
你是对的。根据2023年第一季度的贸易数据，中国刚刚取代日本成为世界第一大汽车出口国。中国汽车协会预测，到2030年，中国汽车出口量将达到800万辆。
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You're right. According to the first season of 2023's trading data, China just took down Japan as the world number 1 car exporter. Chinese car associate predicts that by 2030, China will reach 8 million car exportation.
你是对的。根据2023年第一季度的贸易数据，中国刚刚取代日本成为世界第一大汽车出口国。中国汽车协会预测，到2030年，中国汽车出口量将达到800万辆。
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R
And the winner is…
CATL
Most car manufacturers trying to catch up but China is ahead in terms of technology and price. Not hard to predict some companies might disappear, because they have limited access to (cheap) technology for BEV. Think of Mazda, Mitsubishi, Subaru, Suzuki, Stellantis. I think it will not take long.
获胜者是……
宁德时代
大多数汽车制造商都在努力追赶，但中国在技术和价格方面遥遥领先。不难预测，一些公司可能会消失，因为它们获得(廉价)纯电动车的技术渠道有限。想想马自达、三菱、斯巴鲁、铃木和斯泰兰提斯。我想这一天不会太久的。
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And the winner is…
CATL
Most car manufacturers trying to catch up but China is ahead in terms of technology and price. Not hard to predict some companies might disappear, because they have limited access to (cheap) technology for BEV. Think of Mazda, Mitsubishi, Subaru, Suzuki, Stellantis. I think it will not take long.
获胜者是……
宁德时代
大多数汽车制造商都在努力追赶，但中国在技术和价格方面遥遥领先。不难预测，一些公司可能会消失，因为它们获得(廉价)纯电动车的技术渠道有限。想想马自达、三菱、斯巴鲁、铃木和斯泰兰提斯。我想这一天不会太久的。
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Larry C
+VW, Porsche, Mercedes, bmw, Aston, GM, Toyota....
还有大众、保时捷、奔驰、宝马、阿斯顿、通用、丰田....
+VW, Porsche, Mercedes, bmw, Aston, GM, Toyota....
还有大众、保时捷、奔驰、宝马、阿斯顿、通用、丰田....
David Inkster
Remember the WW2 concession by the emperor: "the war has not gone entirely our way".
Honda has just upxed that as the understatement of the century: "we are a little behind the Chinese"
还记得日本酋长在二战中做出的妥协吗：“战争并没有完全按照我们的方式进行”。
本田(Honda)刚刚将这句话更新为本世纪的轻描淡写:“我们有点落后于中国。”
Remember the WW2 concession by the emperor: "the war has not gone entirely our way".
Honda has just upxed that as the understatement of the century: "we are a little behind the Chinese"
还记得日本酋长在二战中做出的妥协吗：“战争并没有完全按照我们的方式进行”。
本田(Honda)刚刚将这句话更新为本世纪的轻描淡写:“我们有点落后于中国。”
purdue
I do think that two things will work to some advantage. One the auto makers sitting on the side, will learn from other people's mistakes. To. Governments will enact protectionist measures to allow their industry to be saved.
我确定有两件事会起到一些作用：一是汽车制造商坐在一边，从别人的错误中学习；二是政府将制定保护主义措施，以挽救本国工业。
I do think that two things will work to some advantage. One the auto makers sitting on the side, will learn from other people's mistakes. To. Governments will enact protectionist measures to allow their industry to be saved.
我确定有两件事会起到一些作用：一是汽车制造商坐在一边，从别人的错误中学习；二是政府将制定保护主义措施，以挽救本国工业。
Hans Witvliet
True, but the point is, can (will) they dare to start their EV-development from scratch? Instead from tinkering and slightly adjusting current models?
Developing & producing battery and powertrains.
Basic automobile techniques (drag, suspension) should be present.
That, and and fully robotic production line, should be their focus.
没错，但问题是，他们敢从零开始发展电动汽车吗？而不是修修补补，稍微调整一下当前的车型？
开发和生产电池，还有动力系统。
电动汽车基础技术（阻力，悬挂）应该搞出来。
还有全机器人生产线，应该是他们关注的焦点。
True, but the point is, can (will) they dare to start their EV-development from scratch? Instead from tinkering and slightly adjusting current models?
Developing & producing battery and powertrains.
Basic automobile techniques (drag, suspension) should be present.
That, and and fully robotic production line, should be their focus.
没错，但问题是，他们敢从零开始发展电动汽车吗？而不是修修补补，稍微调整一下当前的车型？
开发和生产电池，还有动力系统。
电动汽车基础技术（阻力，悬挂）应该搞出来。
还有全机器人生产线，应该是他们关注的焦点。
GrahamF
The Japanese government may act to protect Japanese car manufacturers in Japan, but they can't do that across the rest of the world. The US is already acting to protect its own car industry against foreign EV competition.
日本政府可能会采取行动，以保护日本本土的汽车制造商，但他们无法在世界其他地方也这样做。美国已经在采取行动，保护本国的汽车行业不受外国电动汽车竞争的影响。
The Japanese government may act to protect Japanese car manufacturers in Japan, but they can't do that across the rest of the world. The US is already acting to protect its own car industry against foreign EV competition.
日本政府可能会采取行动，以保护日本本土的汽车制造商，但他们无法在世界其他地方也这样做。美国已经在采取行动，保护本国的汽车行业不受外国电动汽车竞争的影响。
David Post
We'll see how reliable the Chinese EV's are in a few years. They certainly haven't done well with their ICE cars. Honda has had reliability built into their car designs for decades. I own a 2012 natural gas Honda Civic and a 2018 Honda Clarity plug-in hybrid. Both of those cars haven't had any problems. I hope the Chinese car manufacturers do well. I lived in China for 8 years and have a Chinese wife. We need more competition especially in the lower cost area.
几年后，我们将看到中国电动汽车有多可靠。当然，他们的内燃机汽车做得并不好。几十年来，本田一直将可靠性融入他们的汽车设计中。我拥有一辆2012年的天然气本田思域(Civic)和一辆2018年的本田Clarity插电式混合动力车。这两辆车都没有任何问题。我希望中国汽车制造商做得好。我在中国生活了8年，有一个中国妻子。我们需要更多的竞争，特别是在低成本领域。
We'll see how reliable the Chinese EV's are in a few years. They certainly haven't done well with their ICE cars. Honda has had reliability built into their car designs for decades. I own a 2012 natural gas Honda Civic and a 2018 Honda Clarity plug-in hybrid. Both of those cars haven't had any problems. I hope the Chinese car manufacturers do well. I lived in China for 8 years and have a Chinese wife. We need more competition especially in the lower cost area.
几年后，我们将看到中国电动汽车有多可靠。当然，他们的内燃机汽车做得并不好。几十年来，本田一直将可靠性融入他们的汽车设计中。我拥有一辆2012年的天然气本田思域(Civic)和一辆2018年的本田Clarity插电式混合动力车。这两辆车都没有任何问题。我希望中国汽车制造商做得好。我在中国生活了8年，有一个中国妻子。我们需要更多的竞争，特别是在低成本领域。
Andy Freeze
it takes five years to get up to speed. Using tesla as the main example. Everything has to be rethought from the ground up. Its clear tesla has a strategy of driving manufacturing costs down by " design". Even their battery tech is focused on ease of manufacture and cost of manufacture. They havent chased the very very best of chemistry, rather whats a good compromise with cost. New drive trains will have no rare earth materials. Its not only about being better than an ICE powered car, its about leap-froging the engineering into the stratosphere of brilliance. Gigacasings, parallel assembly and vertical integration of the software with the hardware. These are foreign concepts to the japanese oems. Sure they were brilliant with "just in time" manufacturing but that has proven to be a false new horizon. It means the japanese have locked themselves into a system that wont allow a quantum leap forward. At some stage, they will be on their knees. Can they make the transition in time is the only question I have.
要达到这个速度需要5年的时间。以特斯拉为主要例子。一切都必须从头开始重新考虑。很明显，特斯拉的战略是通过“设计”来降低制造成本。甚至他们的电池技术也是专注于制造的便利性和成本。他们没有追求最好的化学反应，而是在成本上达成一个不错的妥协。新的传动系统将不使用稀土材料。它不仅要比内燃机驱动的汽车更好，而且还要在工程上跨越式地进入辉煌的平流层。一体铸造，并行组装和垂直集成的软件与硬件。这些对日本汽车制造商来说都是陌生的概念。当然，他们在“及时”制造方面很出色，但事实证明，这是一个错误的新视野。这意味着日本人把自己锁在了一个不允许量子飞跃的系统里。到了某个阶段，他们会跪下。他们能否及时完成过渡是我唯一的疑问。
it takes five years to get up to speed. Using tesla as the main example. Everything has to be rethought from the ground up. Its clear tesla has a strategy of driving manufacturing costs down by " design". Even their battery tech is focused on ease of manufacture and cost of manufacture. They havent chased the very very best of chemistry, rather whats a good compromise with cost. New drive trains will have no rare earth materials. Its not only about being better than an ICE powered car, its about leap-froging the engineering into the stratosphere of brilliance. Gigacasings, parallel assembly and vertical integration of the software with the hardware. These are foreign concepts to the japanese oems. Sure they were brilliant with "just in time" manufacturing but that has proven to be a false new horizon. It means the japanese have locked themselves into a system that wont allow a quantum leap forward. At some stage, they will be on their knees. Can they make the transition in time is the only question I have.
要达到这个速度需要5年的时间。以特斯拉为主要例子。一切都必须从头开始重新考虑。很明显，特斯拉的战略是通过“设计”来降低制造成本。甚至他们的电池技术也是专注于制造的便利性和成本。他们没有追求最好的化学反应，而是在成本上达成一个不错的妥协。新的传动系统将不使用稀土材料。它不仅要比内燃机驱动的汽车更好，而且还要在工程上跨越式地进入辉煌的平流层。一体铸造，并行组装和垂直集成的软件与硬件。这些对日本汽车制造商来说都是陌生的概念。当然，他们在“及时”制造方面很出色，但事实证明，这是一个错误的新视野。这意味着日本人把自己锁在了一个不允许量子飞跃的系统里。到了某个阶段，他们会跪下。他们能否及时完成过渡是我唯一的疑问。
Jim Graham
Good observations
观察细致
Good observations
观察细致
joe black
Dont forget the supply chain which is owned by Chinese almost exclusively!
别忘了供应链几乎完全由中国人拥有！
渡海
Dont forget the supply chain which is owned by Chinese almost exclusively!
别忘了供应链几乎完全由中国人拥有！
渡海
About time Honda nissan and all other small fries sell themselves to chinese conglomerates like toshiba and hitachi and a few other wise japanese companies in the past did to evade bankruptcy.
是时候了，本田、日产和其他小公司，可以把自己卖给中国的企业集团，就像东芝和日立以及其他一些明智的日本公司，在过去为避免破产所做的那样。
是时候了，本田、日产和其他小公司，可以把自己卖给中国的企业集团，就像东芝和日立以及其他一些明智的日本公司，在过去为避免破产所做的那样。
C W
Don't worry. I know the Japanese culture. It will take Honda and Toyota another decade to discuss if EV is really the future. Look at their mobile phones. 20 years ago, Japanese mobile phones with their i-Mode was way ahead of the rest of the world.
别担心，我了解日本文化。本田和丰田还需要再花10年的时间，来讨论电动汽车是否真的是未来，看看他们的手机，20年前，日本的i-Mode手机远远领先于世界其他地区。
（译者注：i-Mode是日本的一种手机上网模式，传输速率高达32kbps～64kbps）
Don't worry. I know the Japanese culture. It will take Honda and Toyota another decade to discuss if EV is really the future. Look at their mobile phones. 20 years ago, Japanese mobile phones with their i-Mode was way ahead of the rest of the world.
别担心，我了解日本文化。本田和丰田还需要再花10年的时间，来讨论电动汽车是否真的是未来，看看他们的手机，20年前，日本的i-Mode手机远远领先于世界其他地区。
（译者注：i-Mode是日本的一种手机上网模式，传输速率高达32kbps～64kbps）
Rozonoe Mi
Yes, however they will not win this race. They are to far back to catch up!
是的，但是他们（日本）不会赢得这场比赛，他们落后得太远了，追不上了！
Yes, however they will not win this race. They are to far back to catch up!
是的，但是他们（日本）不会赢得这场比赛，他们落后得太远了，追不上了！
Enrique A Thiele Solivan
They have no time for waiting. No one can wait on today ev market. Change is happening to fast for many to comprehend. By 2026 most developed countries will be at 50% of more on ev sxales. Less than 3 years later its over for all ICE cars. EV's will be a lot cheaper, better, and with longer range than any IVE car in the world. Carging will be done in 5 min. only.
他们（日本）没有时间等待了。今天的市场不等人。变化产生的速度之快，让许多人难以理解。到2026年，大多数发达国家的电动汽车销量将增长50%以上。不到3年后，所有的内燃机汽车都要完蛋了。电动汽车将比世界上任何内燃机汽车都更便宜、更好、续航里程更长。充电只需5分钟。
They have no time for waiting. No one can wait on today ev market. Change is happening to fast for many to comprehend. By 2026 most developed countries will be at 50% of more on ev sxales. Less than 3 years later its over for all ICE cars. EV's will be a lot cheaper, better, and with longer range than any IVE car in the world. Carging will be done in 5 min. only.
他们（日本）没有时间等待了。今天的市场不等人。变化产生的速度之快，让许多人难以理解。到2026年，大多数发达国家的电动汽车销量将增长50%以上。不到3年后，所有的内燃机汽车都要完蛋了。电动汽车将比世界上任何内燃机汽车都更便宜、更好、续航里程更长。充电只需5分钟。
Jorge Robles
I believe in Honda than in any other Japanese car maker in the sense that they can have a sudden change and start doing EVs that could be very good. And I use as basis of this when the USA implemented the Emissions regulations in the 1970s, most car makers used the Catalytic Converter to control emissions, but Honda's answer was the CVCC engine, that provided the same to low the hydrocarbon emission by engines. So in the same way they did that, they could appear with something good and really competitive, but they must stop doing what Sam is saying, wasting time in Hydrogen stuff..........
我相信本田胜过其他日本汽车制造商，因为他们可以突然改变，转行做电动汽车，这会非常好。我以此为基础，当美国在20世纪70年代实施排放法规时，大多数汽车制造商使用催化转化器来控制排放，但本田的答案是CVCC发动机，它提供了同样的低碳氢化合物排放的发动机。所以用同样的方式，他们可以拿出一些很好的，有竞争力的东西，但他们必须停止做山姆所说的，不要在氢的事情上浪费时间..........
I believe in Honda than in any other Japanese car maker in the sense that they can have a sudden change and start doing EVs that could be very good. And I use as basis of this when the USA implemented the Emissions regulations in the 1970s, most car makers used the Catalytic Converter to control emissions, but Honda's answer was the CVCC engine, that provided the same to low the hydrocarbon emission by engines. So in the same way they did that, they could appear with something good and really competitive, but they must stop doing what Sam is saying, wasting time in Hydrogen stuff..........
我相信本田胜过其他日本汽车制造商，因为他们可以突然改变，转行做电动汽车，这会非常好。我以此为基础，当美国在20世纪70年代实施排放法规时，大多数汽车制造商使用催化转化器来控制排放，但本田的答案是CVCC发动机，它提供了同样的低碳氢化合物排放的发动机。所以用同样的方式，他们可以拿出一些很好的，有竞争力的东西，但他们必须停止做山姆所说的，不要在氢的事情上浪费时间..........
Doug Diamond
If I was the CEO of Honda, I would invest in Tesla stock.
如果我是本田的CEO，我会投资特斯拉的股票。
If I was the CEO of Honda, I would invest in Tesla stock.
如果我是本田的CEO，我会投资特斯拉的股票。
Dan Buckles
What you do is deconstruct your competition and then copy what you like and make it better. That's what all companies do if you want to survive. They could also use the CATL batteries for now and while working on advancing it themselves.
你要做的就是解构你的竞争对手，然后复制你喜欢的东西，把它变得更好。这是所有想要生存的公司都要做的。他们现在也可以使用宁德时代的电池，同时自己也努力推进它。
What you do is deconstruct your competition and then copy what you like and make it better. That's what all companies do if you want to survive. They could also use the CATL batteries for now and while working on advancing it themselves.
你要做的就是解构你的竞争对手，然后复制你喜欢的东西，把它变得更好。这是所有想要生存的公司都要做的。他们现在也可以使用宁德时代的电池，同时自己也努力推进它。
Nostra Damus
Who would buy a Honda in 2023 ? The Power of Wet Dreams.
2023年谁会买本田？做梦吧。
Who would buy a Honda in 2023 ? The Power of Wet Dreams.
2023年谁会买本田？做梦吧。
eyePERTURE
Japan's strength resides in the innovation sector, regenerate value is the key for a country whose core materials are imported. I don't worry about Japan's innovative power, but its market! As Japan sides with US in the ever growing political and military tensions complicates its auto exports to China.
日本的优势在于创新领域，对于一个核心材料依赖进口的国家来说，再生价值是关键。我不担心日本的创新能力，而是担心它的市场！随着日本在日益加剧的政治和军事紧张局势中，站在了美国的一边，日本对中国的汽车出口将变得复杂。
Japan's strength resides in the innovation sector, regenerate value is the key for a country whose core materials are imported. I don't worry about Japan's innovative power, but its market! As Japan sides with US in the ever growing political and military tensions complicates its auto exports to China.
日本的优势在于创新领域，对于一个核心材料依赖进口的国家来说，再生价值是关键。我不担心日本的创新能力，而是担心它的市场！随着日本在日益加剧的政治和军事紧张局势中，站在了美国的一边，日本对中国的汽车出口将变得复杂。
Chris1952
Hi Sam, I hope your wife gets back on good health soon.
Sam, didn't you recently say that some of the Chinese motor car companies were on the point of bankruptcy?
Maybe Honda could buy a complete car factory with all the bells and whistles?
Just a thought.
你好，山姆，我希望你的妻子早日康复。
山姆，你最近不是说一些中国电动汽车公司濒临破产吗？
也许本田可以买一个完整的中国汽车工厂，以及所有的配套设施？
只是一个想法。
Hi Sam, I hope your wife gets back on good health soon.
Sam, didn't you recently say that some of the Chinese motor car companies were on the point of bankruptcy?
Maybe Honda could buy a complete car factory with all the bells and whistles?
Just a thought.
你好，山姆，我希望你的妻子早日康复。
山姆，你最近不是说一些中国电动汽车公司濒临破产吗？
也许本田可以买一个完整的中国汽车工厂，以及所有的配套设施？
只是一个想法。
Enrique A Thiele Solivan
A good one. True most Japan automakers can buy a few closing EV factories today, but most likely will not. That window of oprtunity will close very fast, but Japan companies are too proud to go thatroute.
好主意。的确，大多数日本汽车制造商今天可以收购几家倒闭的电动汽车工厂，但很可能不会。这个机会之窗很快就会关闭，而日本企业太骄傲了，不会走这条路。
A good one. True most Japan automakers can buy a few closing EV factories today, but most likely will not. That window of oprtunity will close very fast, but Japan companies are too proud to go thatroute.
好主意。的确，大多数日本汽车制造商今天可以收购几家倒闭的电动汽车工厂，但很可能不会。这个机会之窗很快就会关闭，而日本企业太骄傲了，不会走这条路。
Ralph Brooks
If Honda think they are behind then where is Suzuki. I asked my main Suzuki dealer in Cornwall, UK about any forthcoming bev Suzuki's and was told hybrid only.
如果本田认为他们落后了，那么铃木在哪里呢？我问我在英国康沃尔的主要铃木经销商，是否即将推出新款铃木，他告诉我，只有混合动力的。
If Honda think they are behind then where is Suzuki. I asked my main Suzuki dealer in Cornwall, UK about any forthcoming bev Suzuki's and was told hybrid only.
如果本田认为他们落后了，那么铃木在哪里呢？我问我在英国康沃尔的主要铃木经销商，是否即将推出新款铃木，他告诉我，只有混合动力的。
ivan cai
Not just the power train they are behind, their software is dated too. They are so behind that it will take a miracle to catch up to the competition.
不仅仅是动力系统落后，他们（日本）的软件也过时了。他们如此落后，要赶上竞争对手，需要奇迹。
Not just the power train they are behind, their software is dated too. They are so behind that it will take a miracle to catch up to the competition.
不仅仅是动力系统落后，他们（日本）的软件也过时了。他们如此落后，要赶上竞争对手，需要奇迹。
Kaby Summit
Japanese cars come with terrible software. I just don't believe they are capable of turning this aspect around themselves.
日本汽车的软件很糟糕。我只是不相信他们有能力扭转这一局面。
Japanese cars come with terrible software. I just don't believe they are capable of turning this aspect around themselves.
日本汽车的软件很糟糕。我只是不相信他们有能力扭转这一局面。
chijen2010
My dad last left Shanghai for the US in 1948 to get a Physics PhD. I showed him the 2023 Shanghai Auto Show walk around YT videos inside and outside the convention center and he was blown away. He didn't even recognize Shanghai. He said Shanghai was only full of beggars in 1948. Really Nice job CCP!! Giving credit where credit is due!! American haters gonna hate I understand.
我父亲上次离开上海去美国是在1948年，为了获得物理学博士学位。我带他观看了2023年的上海车展，会议中心内外的油管视频，他被震撼了。他甚至认不出上海。他说，1948年的上海到处都是乞丐。干得好，中国共产党！！该表扬的就表扬！！美国的恨中党不会喜欢的，我能理解。
My dad last left Shanghai for the US in 1948 to get a Physics PhD. I showed him the 2023 Shanghai Auto Show walk around YT videos inside and outside the convention center and he was blown away. He didn't even recognize Shanghai. He said Shanghai was only full of beggars in 1948. Really Nice job CCP!! Giving credit where credit is due!! American haters gonna hate I understand.
我父亲上次离开上海去美国是在1948年，为了获得物理学博士学位。我带他观看了2023年的上海车展，会议中心内外的油管视频，他被震撼了。他甚至认不出上海。他说，1948年的上海到处都是乞丐。干得好，中国共产党！！该表扬的就表扬！！美国的恨中党不会喜欢的，我能理解。
Larry Evans
Looking at BYD's recently announced 1Q net profits up 5X and sales growth YoY, in addition to the new product at Shanghai, it will be hard for Honda to catch up.
看看比亚迪最近公布的第一季度净利润增长了5倍，销量同比大增，再加上在上海的新产品，本田将很难赶上。
Looking at BYD's recently announced 1Q net profits up 5X and sales growth YoY, in addition to the new product at Shanghai, it will be hard for Honda to catch up.
看看比亚迪最近公布的第一季度净利润增长了5倍，销量同比大增，再加上在上海的新产品，本田将很难赶上。
HebrewGod Israel
Toyota's obsession with hydrogen is bizarre. Clearly the powers that be elites want society to go to EV. So totyota is a fool for thinking they could go against the grain by themselves
丰田对氢燃料的痴迷很奇怪。显然，精英们希望社会走向电动汽车。因此，丰田认为自己可以独当一面是愚蠢的。
Toyota's obsession with hydrogen is bizarre. Clearly the powers that be elites want society to go to EV. So totyota is a fool for thinking they could go against the grain by themselves
丰田对氢燃料的痴迷很奇怪。显然，精英们希望社会走向电动汽车。因此，丰田认为自己可以独当一面是愚蠢的。
drxym
Toyota / Honda etc for the last 10 years - "Electric Vehicles are a fad, nobody needs a big battery in their car, come buy our 'self powered' hybrids, hydrogen vehicles, or wait for our solid state batteries". Toyota / Honda etc. now - "we are so fucked"
“电动汽车只是一种时尚，没有人需要大电池，来买我们的‘自供电’混合动力汽车，氢动力汽车，或者等待我们的固态电池”，丰田、本田等等公司说道。现在——“我们完蛋了”
Toyota / Honda etc for the last 10 years - "Electric Vehicles are a fad, nobody needs a big battery in their car, come buy our 'self powered' hybrids, hydrogen vehicles, or wait for our solid state batteries". Toyota / Honda etc. now - "we are so fucked"
“电动汽车只是一种时尚，没有人需要大电池，来买我们的‘自供电’混合动力汽车，氢动力汽车，或者等待我们的固态电池”，丰田、本田等等公司说道。现在——“我们完蛋了”
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