印度网民：曼尼普尔邦 - 主流媒体没有报道的真实情况part1
正文翻译
The real situation of Manipur that is not covered by mainstream media.
印度网民：印度曼尼普尔邦——主流媒体没有报道的真实情况
The real situation of Manipur that is not covered by mainstream media.
印度网民：印度曼尼普尔邦——主流媒体没有报道的真实情况
Manipur is a hell. It can not be recovered anytime soon. None of the communities are absolute saint and I believe that they are both equally contributing to the conflict. Both communities have arm supplies and military groups. They have lixage with C...a and use Myanmar as safe heaven.
曼尼普尔是个地狱。短时间内它不可能恢复。没有一个族群是绝对的圣人，我相信他们都对这场冲突做出了同样的贡献。两个族群都有武器供应和军事组织。他们与zg有联系（？？？），并把缅甸当作安全天堂。
曼尼普尔是个地狱。短时间内它不可能恢复。没有一个族群是绝对的圣人，我相信他们都对这场冲突做出了同样的贡献。两个族群都有武器供应和军事组织。他们与zg有联系（？？？），并把缅甸当作安全天堂。
Imagine a situation where someone can come and burn you house with no consequence. That's happening in Manipur.
想象一下这样一种情况：有人可以来烧掉你的房子，而不用承担任何后果。这正在曼尼普尔发生。
想象一下这样一种情况：有人可以来烧掉你的房子，而不用承担任何后果。这正在曼尼普尔发生。
Imagine a situation where some goons can rape you and murder you with no consequence. That's happening in Manipur.
想象一下这样一种情况：一些暴徒可以强奸你，谋杀你，而不承担任何后果。这正在曼尼普尔发生。
想象一下这样一种情况：一些暴徒可以强奸你，谋杀你，而不承担任何后果。这正在曼尼普尔发生。
Imagine a situation where someone can gun you down for speaking against the goons with no consequence. That's happening in Manipur.
想象一下这样一种情况：有人可以因为你说了反对暴徒的话而开枪打死你，而不会有任何后果。这正在曼尼普尔发生。
想象一下这样一种情况：有人可以因为你说了反对暴徒的话而开枪打死你，而不会有任何后果。这正在曼尼普尔发生。
Imagine a situation where someone can call you to their house with a certain amount of money if you don't want your family to be erased and still have no consequence. That's happening in Manipur.
想象一下这样一种情况：如果你不想让你的家人被抹杀，有人可以用一定数量的钱把你叫到他们家里，但仍然没有任何后果。这正在曼尼普尔发生。
想象一下这样一种情况：如果你不想让你的家人被抹杀，有人可以用一定数量的钱把你叫到他们家里，但仍然没有任何后果。这正在曼尼普尔发生。
Imagine a situation where you go to your farm with your cattle/farm animals and the animals get butchered in front of you. That's happening in Manipur.
想象一下这样一种情况：你带着你的牛/耕畜去下田，而那些动物在你面前被屠杀。这正在曼尼普尔发生。
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想象一下这样一种情况：你带着你的牛/耕畜去下田，而那些动物在你面前被屠杀。这正在曼尼普尔发生。
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I can continue it forever. But you get the point. Gunfires can be heard at any time. It is so normal that when I call my mom she says, "it's happening as we speak". Even my little sister who cried when she first heard it 2 months ago is familiar with the sound and she's not scared anymore.
我可以不停的说下去。但你懂的。随时都能听到枪声。这很正常，以至于当我打电话给我妈妈时，她说:“我们说话的时候就在响。”即使是我的小妹妹，当她两个月前第一次听到它时哭了，现在她也熟悉了这个声音，她不再害怕了。
我可以不停的说下去。但你懂的。随时都能听到枪声。这很正常，以至于当我打电话给我妈妈时，她说:“我们说话的时候就在响。”即使是我的小妹妹，当她两个月前第一次听到它时哭了，现在她也熟悉了这个声音，她不再害怕了。
What is the Government of Manipur doing? It is denying everything that is happening in Manipur. Can you imagine opening schools in such situation where even online class is not a possibility cause Internet is blocked? The amazing Biren government has opened schools on paper when many schools are occupied as relief camps. And the world doesn't know this reality because, information is curbed. People outside Manipur believe that it's normalized and schools have reopened.
曼尼普尔邦政府在做什么? 它否认曼尼普尔发生的一切。你能想象吗？在网络被封锁，连在线授课都不可能的情况下，在这样的情况下开设学校? 当许多学校被占领，当作救援营地时，神奇的Biren政府却开设了纸面上的学校。而全世界都不知道这个事实，因为信息被限制了。曼尼普尔以外的人们认为一切已经恢复正常，学校已经重新开学。
曼尼普尔邦政府在做什么? 它否认曼尼普尔发生的一切。你能想象吗？在网络被封锁，连在线授课都不可能的情况下，在这样的情况下开设学校? 当许多学校被占领，当作救援营地时，神奇的Biren政府却开设了纸面上的学校。而全世界都不知道这个事实，因为信息被限制了。曼尼普尔以外的人们认为一切已经恢复正常，学校已经重新开学。
While middle class parents have started sending their kids to other states for education, the poor parents and children are suffering even more. Transport system is disrupted and fares have gone up 2X.
当中产阶级的父母开始把孩子送到其他邦接受教育时，贫穷的父母和孩子在遭受更大的痛苦。交通系统中断，票价上涨了2倍。
当中产阶级的父母开始把孩子送到其他邦接受教育时，贫穷的父母和孩子在遭受更大的痛苦。交通系统中断，票价上涨了2倍。
Meitei people want the State government to continue and believe that Centre favours the Kuki community. Kukis favour President rule as they can't trust the State government which is run my Biren(Meitei).
梅泰人希望邦政府继续下去，并相信中央政府偏袒库基族群。库基人支持总统统治，因为他们不信任我们Biren（梅泰人）管理的邦政府。
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梅泰人希望邦政府继续下去，并相信中央政府偏袒库基族群。库基人支持总统统治，因为他们不信任我们Biren（梅泰人）管理的邦政府。
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pegasus_kid_iii
Violence in Manipur is generally very normalised but this is the first time it has happened over such a long period of time without a break.The government is a total failure and internet shutdown for over 2 months is covering up many of their failures.
曼尼普尔邦的暴力通常是很正常的情况，但这是第一次发生这么长时间而没有停顿。政府完全失败了，互联网关闭了两个多月，掩盖了他们的许多失败。
Violence in Manipur is generally very normalised but this is the first time it has happened over such a long period of time without a break.The government is a total failure and internet shutdown for over 2 months is covering up many of their failures.
曼尼普尔邦的暴力通常是很正常的情况，但这是第一次发生这么长时间而没有停顿。政府完全失败了，互联网关闭了两个多月，掩盖了他们的许多失败。
mathelic
Violence is normalized in Manipur as much as it is normalized in other parts of the country. But Manipur used to take small violences very seriously cause the state is very communal and it can escalate quickly. This conflict is so widespread that it is almost impossible to wait until it settle on its own. The government still resorts to its old strategy of "lets wait and hope for the best".
曼尼普尔邦的暴力与该国其他地区一样司空见惯。但曼尼普尔邦过去对小型暴力事件非常重视，因为这个邦是一个群体分明的邦，暴力事件可能会迅速升级。而这场冲突是如此广泛，以至于几乎不可能等到它自己解决。然而政府仍然诉诸于“等待并期待最好的结果”的老策略。
Violence is normalized in Manipur as much as it is normalized in other parts of the country. But Manipur used to take small violences very seriously cause the state is very communal and it can escalate quickly. This conflict is so widespread that it is almost impossible to wait until it settle on its own. The government still resorts to its old strategy of "lets wait and hope for the best".
曼尼普尔邦的暴力与该国其他地区一样司空见惯。但曼尼普尔邦过去对小型暴力事件非常重视，因为这个邦是一个群体分明的邦，暴力事件可能会迅速升级。而这场冲突是如此广泛，以至于几乎不可能等到它自己解决。然而政府仍然诉诸于“等待并期待最好的结果”的老策略。
issac_hunt1
Its state sponsored genocide and ethnic cleansing that's going on in Manipur and all the government mouthpieces are as usual silent about it because it doesn't serve their agenda. They would rather show Great Leader meeting a bunch of kids as a big prime time show instead of covering a pogrom
曼尼普尔邦发生的种族灭绝和种族清洗是由邦政府赞助的，所有政府喉舌都像往常一样对此保持沉默，因为这不符合他们的议程。他们宁愿在黄金时段播放伟大领袖会见一群孩子的节目，也不愿报道一场大屠杀。
Its state sponsored genocide and ethnic cleansing that's going on in Manipur and all the government mouthpieces are as usual silent about it because it doesn't serve their agenda. They would rather show Great Leader meeting a bunch of kids as a big prime time show instead of covering a pogrom
曼尼普尔邦发生的种族灭绝和种族清洗是由邦政府赞助的，所有政府喉舌都像往常一样对此保持沉默，因为这不符合他们的议程。他们宁愿在黄金时段播放伟大领袖会见一群孩子的节目，也不愿报道一场大屠杀。
mathelic
Mainstream media is just a government mouthpiece these days. In India, journalism is dead unless you belong to a certain political party. I hope there's a change in governance in the next term.
如今主流媒体只是政府的喉舌。在印度，除非你属于某个政党，否则新闻业就是死的。我希望下一届政府能有所改变。
Mainstream media is just a government mouthpiece these days. In India, journalism is dead unless you belong to a certain political party. I hope there's a change in governance in the next term.
如今主流媒体只是政府的喉舌。在印度，除非你属于某个政党，否则新闻业就是死的。我希望下一届政府能有所改变。
They are silent about the Manipur issue cause it's BJP that's running Manipur.
他们对曼尼普尔邦问题保持沉默，因为是人民党在统治曼尼普尔邦。
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他们对曼尼普尔邦问题保持沉默，因为是人民党在统治曼尼普尔邦。
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Magical_Peach_
Its state sponsored genocide and ethnic cleansing
“这是由国家赞助的种族灭绝和种族清洗”
Its state sponsored genocide and ethnic cleansing
“这是由国家赞助的种族灭绝和种族清洗”
Evidence for your claims? On what basis do you say so?
有证据证明你的说法吗? 你凭什么这么说?
有证据证明你的说法吗? 你凭什么这么说?
CheapLiterature9484
When the state is not getting involved in it like godhra kaamd
因为邦政府不像godhra惨案一样介入。
（Godhra是印度古吉拉特邦的一个城市。这个城市因为2002年的Godhra火车火灾事件而闻名，该事件导致了印度教徒和穆斯林之间的严重暴力冲突。这场冲突在整个印度国内外引起了广泛的关注和讨论。）
When the state is not getting involved in it like godhra kaamd
因为邦政府不像godhra惨案一样介入。
（Godhra是印度古吉拉特邦的一个城市。这个城市因为2002年的Godhra火车火灾事件而闻名，该事件导致了印度教徒和穆斯林之间的严重暴力冲突。这场冲突在整个印度国内外引起了广泛的关注和讨论。）
Thisconnected
When the state lets drama n chaos happen and doesn't interfere(and also acts like it's all not happening only). Same state that didn't think for a second to deploy javans from JK n border to curb caa/nrc protests
因为邦政府放任闹剧和混乱发生而不干预(并且还表现得好像一切都没有发生)。同样是这个邦，也没有想过要从印控克什米尔边境调派并部署军队来遏制caa/nrc引起的抗议。
（CAA：National Register of Citizens of India 印度国家公民登记，NRC：National Register of Citizens 即全国公民登记册法案。）
When the state lets drama n chaos happen and doesn't interfere(and also acts like it's all not happening only). Same state that didn't think for a second to deploy javans from JK n border to curb caa/nrc protests
因为邦政府放任闹剧和混乱发生而不干预(并且还表现得好像一切都没有发生)。同样是这个邦，也没有想过要从印控克什米尔边境调派并部署军队来遏制caa/nrc引起的抗议。
（CAA：National Register of Citizens of India 印度国家公民登记，NRC：National Register of Citizens 即全国公民登记册法案。）
detectiveboner
That's totally false. Don't spread fake info.
完全错误。不要传播虚假信息。
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That's totally false. Don't spread fake info.
完全错误。不要传播虚假信息。
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Meiteis, Nagas, Kukis, Koubis, Meitei Paangals - all communities have been living peacefully in Manipur for decades. My Meitei families get invitation from Kuki families during Christmas, marriage ceremonies etc. And we also invite them on our festivals and other ceremonies. Our Kuki friends always gift us vegetables during harvesting seasons. We help each other during times. I know many of the Kuki chiefs. They are good people, including Nagas, and every other tribes.
梅泰人、纳加人、库基人、库比人、梅泰人——所有的族群都在曼尼普尔和平生活了几十年。在圣诞节、婚礼等期间，我的梅泰家人会收到库基家庭的邀请。我们也邀请他们参加我们的节日和其他仪式。我们的库基朋友总是在收获季节送蔬菜给我们。我们有时会互相帮助。我认识很多库基族的首领。他们是好人，包括纳加人，还有其他部落。
梅泰人、纳加人、库基人、库比人、梅泰人——所有的族群都在曼尼普尔和平生活了几十年。在圣诞节、婚礼等期间，我的梅泰家人会收到库基家庭的邀请。我们也邀请他们参加我们的节日和其他仪式。我们的库基朋友总是在收获季节送蔬菜给我们。我们有时会互相帮助。我认识很多库基族的首领。他们是好人，包括纳加人，还有其他部落。
Then what happened suddenly? Who instigated the violence?
然后突然发生了什么? 谁煽动了暴力?
然后突然发生了什么? 谁煽动了暴力?
Drug lords, narco militants, and illegal migrants. Read up mate!
毒枭，毒品武装分子，还有非法移民。仔细了解，伙计!
毒枭，毒品武装分子，还有非法移民。仔细了解，伙计!
For your knowledge (copying from other thread) -
以下知识分享给你(从其他线程复制的)：
以下知识分享给你(从其他线程复制的)：
Fact - Crackdown on illegal migrants and drugs by the govt. in kuki dominated areas. It has nothing to do with ST demand as often reported by the national media. (Sources give below)
事实：政府在库基人占主导地位的地区打击非法移民和毒品。这与国家媒体经常报道的ST需求无关。(资料来源如下)
事实：政府在库基人占主导地位的地区打击非法移民和毒品。这与国家媒体经常报道的ST需求无关。(资料来源如下)
Two of the kuki militant groups who started the violence - 1. ZRA (Zomi Revolutionary Army): Thanglianpau Guite, the president of the group is a Myanmar politician (Source - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zomi_Revolutionary_Army) 2. KNF (Kuki National Front) - S.T. Thangboi Kipgen, the Chairman and Commander of the group is the husband of current BJP minister Nemcha Kipgen. (lix - https://www.satp.org/satporgtp/countries/india/states/manipur/terrorist_outfits/KNF_tl.htm
两个库基激进组织挑起了这场暴力。1、ZRA（左米革命军）：该组织主席Thanglianpau Guite是一名缅甸政治家。2、KNF（库基民族阵线）：该组织的主席兼指挥官S.T. Thangboi Kipgen是现任印度人民党部长Nemcha Kipgen的丈夫。
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两个库基激进组织挑起了这场暴力。1、ZRA（左米革命军）：该组织主席Thanglianpau Guite是一名缅甸政治家。2、KNF（库基民族阵线）：该组织的主席兼指挥官S.T. Thangboi Kipgen是现任印度人民党部长Nemcha Kipgen的丈夫。
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Not taking sides! Go through the lixs and you'll get an idea how it all started.
不偏袒任何一方! 通过这些链接，你会知道这一切是如何开始的。
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不偏袒任何一方! 通过这些链接，你会知道这一切是如何开始的。
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Sources - 1. https://scroll.in/article/1050773/poppy-in-the-hills-why-manipurs-civil-war-is-being-lixed-to-narcotics-trade 2. https://www.thehindu.com/news/national/home-ministry-asked-manipur-and-mizoram-governments-to-record-biometrics-of-illegal-migrants-by-september-30/article67064173.ece 3. https://www.deccanherald.com/national/east-and-northeast/role-of-myanmar-based-drug-lords-illegal-immigrants-suspected-in-manipur-violence-1218853.html 4. https://thewire.in/government/mha-pushes-manipur-mizoram-to-record-biometric-details-of-illegal-migrants
livingplus_
You guys voted for it... Good luck.
是你们投的票……祝你好运。
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livingplus_
You guys voted for it... Good luck.
是你们投的票……祝你好运。
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Try not to get swayed by propaganda. And try not to yell both sides because only one side is getting state support. And the minority is getting crushed.
尽量不要被宣传所左右。尽量不要对双方都大喊大叫，因为只有一方得到了政府的支持。少数民族正在被碾压。
尽量不要被宣传所左右。尽量不要对双方都大喊大叫，因为只有一方得到了政府的支持。少数民族正在被碾压。
mathelic
Not true. The other party is getting other kind of support. The frontline warriors of Kuki are mostly from Myanmar. And it can be openly seen.
不正确。另一方正在获得其他形式的支持。库基的前线战士大多来自缅甸。这是可以公开看到的。
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Not true. The other party is getting other kind of support. The frontline warriors of Kuki are mostly from Myanmar. And it can be openly seen.
不正确。另一方正在获得其他形式的支持。库基的前线战士大多来自缅甸。这是可以公开看到的。
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livingplus_
Bro if you're meitei I pity you.
兄弟，如果你是梅泰人，我怜悯你。
Bro if you're meitei I pity you.
兄弟，如果你是梅泰人，我怜悯你。
mathelic
I'm neither Meitei nor Kuki.
我既不是梅泰人，也不是库基人。
I'm neither Meitei nor Kuki.
我既不是梅泰人，也不是库基人。
livingplus_
And even then you refuse to be obxtive about what's happening. Both sides is a lie. Only one community which happens to be the majority is getting all the backing from the goons that currently run the government.
即便如此，你还是拒绝客观地看待正在发生的事情。双方都是谎言。只有一个族群碰巧占多数，得到了目前管理政府的暴徒的各种支持。
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And even then you refuse to be obxtive about what's happening. Both sides is a lie. Only one community which happens to be the majority is getting all the backing from the goons that currently run the government.
即便如此，你还是拒绝客观地看待正在发生的事情。双方都是谎言。只有一个族群碰巧占多数，得到了目前管理政府的暴徒的各种支持。
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mathelic
True that Meitei is getting the state support. But as i said in the other comment, the Kukis have their militants sourced from Burma and they have more advanced weapons. I can't believe this kuki is good narrative is floating around in the Internet. You either have a political angle to it or you're getting too much one-sided news.
确实，梅泰人确实得到了邦政府的支持。但正如我在另一个评论中所说的，库基的武装分子来自缅甸，他们的武器更先进。我真不敢相信这个“库基人很好”的故事在网上流传。你要么有政治角度，要么你看了太多片面的新闻。
True that Meitei is getting the state support. But as i said in the other comment, the Kukis have their militants sourced from Burma and they have more advanced weapons. I can't believe this kuki is good narrative is floating around in the Internet. You either have a political angle to it or you're getting too much one-sided news.
确实，梅泰人确实得到了邦政府的支持。但正如我在另一个评论中所说的，库基的武装分子来自缅甸，他们的武器更先进。我真不敢相信这个“库基人很好”的故事在网上流传。你要么有政治角度，要么你看了太多片面的新闻。
livingplus_
Nobody is saying kukis aren't retaliating. The situation is such that if they do not retaliate they'll be wiped out by the majority meiteis. I don't think any community will allow themselves to be killed off without a fight. So, it's not both sides and you're the one with a political agenda.
没人说库基人不会报复。现在的情况是，如果他们不报复，他们就会被占多数的梅泰人消灭。我不认为任何族群会放任自己不战而死。所以你并不是双方都支持，你才是有政治目的的那个。
Nobody is saying kukis aren't retaliating. The situation is such that if they do not retaliate they'll be wiped out by the majority meiteis. I don't think any community will allow themselves to be killed off without a fight. So, it's not both sides and you're the one with a political agenda.
没人说库基人不会报复。现在的情况是，如果他们不报复，他们就会被占多数的梅泰人消灭。我不认为任何族群会放任自己不战而死。所以你并不是双方都支持，你才是有政治目的的那个。
mathelic
Not true again. They are not only retaliating. They are also igniting the conflicts in peaceful areas. They are killing Meiteis going to their farms for fun.
又错了。他们不仅是在报复。他们还在和平地区引发冲突。他们为了取乐而杀掉去下田的梅泰人。
Not true again. They are not only retaliating. They are also igniting the conflicts in peaceful areas. They are killing Meiteis going to their farms for fun.
又错了。他们不仅是在报复。他们还在和平地区引发冲突。他们为了取乐而杀掉去下田的梅泰人。
Come on man, you can't be so biased. And if I don't agree with you, it doesn't mean that I have a political agenda . I am neither Kuki nor Meitei and I have my family living in Manipur. I haven't seen them even on video call for so long. I am just a desperate guy who wants it to end. I'm in no condition to take political sides.
得了吧，伙计，你不能这么有偏见。而且如果我不同意你的观点，并不意味着我有政治目的。我既不是库基人也不是梅泰人，而且我的家人住在曼尼普尔邦。我很久没在视频通话中见过他们了。我只是一个绝望的人，想结束这一切。我还没准备好在政治上选边站。
得了吧，伙计，你不能这么有偏见。而且如果我不同意你的观点，并不意味着我有政治目的。我既不是库基人也不是梅泰人，而且我的家人住在曼尼普尔邦。我很久没在视频通话中见过他们了。我只是一个绝望的人，想结束这一切。我还没准备好在政治上选边站。
livingplus_
We all want it to end bro the ones who were elected by the majority do not want it.
我们都希望它结束，兄弟，但是那些被大多数人选举出来的人不希望。
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We all want it to end bro the ones who were elected by the majority do not want it.
我们都希望它结束，兄弟，但是那些被大多数人选举出来的人不希望。
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That_Peculiar_Guy
What make you say the frontline warriors of Kuki are mostly from Myanmar? I was among them for more than a month in Churachandpur since the violence first break out. Every guy from the age of 18 were on duty on a rotational basis. My village is near Kangvai. But if the Meitei attack on Sugnu side, volunteers were sent there for reinforcement. We were always in tension and never certain if we are going to be summoned. I was there in my hometown since a year back as I was able to work to work from home because of Covid. Until I have to leave Manipur because of the internet ban which put my job at risk. It was the first time I held a gun in my life. This "Kuki Militants from Myanmar" is just a false narrative spread by the Meitei because of a few refugee seeking shelter in Manipur/Mizoram due to the ongoing violence in Myanmar. And for the Meitei to justify the use of State Police (who are mostly Meitei) against us.
你凭什么说库基的前线战士大多来自缅甸? 自从暴力事件第一次爆发以来，我和他们一起在丘奇昌普尔呆了一个多月。所有18岁以上的人都轮流值勤。我的村庄在康韦附近。但如果梅泰人进攻顺奴一边，志愿军就被派去增援。我们总是很紧张，不确定我们是否会被召唤。一年前我就在家乡，因为新冠肺炎我可以在家工作。直到我不得不离开曼尼普尔，因为互联网禁令让我的工作岌岌可危。那是我有生以来第一次拿枪。“来自缅甸的库基武装分子”只是梅泰人散布的虚假叙述，少数难民因为由于缅甸持续的暴力局势，在曼尼普尔邦/米佐拉姆邦寻求庇护。梅泰人利用邦警察(主要是梅泰人)来对付我们，并以此为之辩护。
What make you say the frontline warriors of Kuki are mostly from Myanmar? I was among them for more than a month in Churachandpur since the violence first break out. Every guy from the age of 18 were on duty on a rotational basis. My village is near Kangvai. But if the Meitei attack on Sugnu side, volunteers were sent there for reinforcement. We were always in tension and never certain if we are going to be summoned. I was there in my hometown since a year back as I was able to work to work from home because of Covid. Until I have to leave Manipur because of the internet ban which put my job at risk. It was the first time I held a gun in my life. This "Kuki Militants from Myanmar" is just a false narrative spread by the Meitei because of a few refugee seeking shelter in Manipur/Mizoram due to the ongoing violence in Myanmar. And for the Meitei to justify the use of State Police (who are mostly Meitei) against us.
你凭什么说库基的前线战士大多来自缅甸? 自从暴力事件第一次爆发以来，我和他们一起在丘奇昌普尔呆了一个多月。所有18岁以上的人都轮流值勤。我的村庄在康韦附近。但如果梅泰人进攻顺奴一边，志愿军就被派去增援。我们总是很紧张，不确定我们是否会被召唤。一年前我就在家乡，因为新冠肺炎我可以在家工作。直到我不得不离开曼尼普尔，因为互联网禁令让我的工作岌岌可危。那是我有生以来第一次拿枪。“来自缅甸的库基武装分子”只是梅泰人散布的虚假叙述，少数难民因为由于缅甸持续的暴力局势，在曼尼普尔邦/米佐拉姆邦寻求庇护。梅泰人利用邦警察(主要是梅泰人)来对付我们，并以此为之辩护。
mathelic
What makes me say? It is first hand information that I have received from people who see Burmese kukis regularly. It's not few 'refugees' buddy, thats a plain lie and you know it. Of course you're a Kuki and you'll defend it.
我凭什么这么说? 这是我从别人那里得到的第一手信息，他经常见到缅甸库基人。他们可不是少数“难民”，伙计，这是一个明显的谎言，你知道的。你当然是库基人，你会为他们说话。
What makes me say? It is first hand information that I have received from people who see Burmese kukis regularly. It's not few 'refugees' buddy, thats a plain lie and you know it. Of course you're a Kuki and you'll defend it.
我凭什么这么说? 这是我从别人那里得到的第一手信息，他经常见到缅甸库基人。他们可不是少数“难民”，伙计，这是一个明显的谎言，你知道的。你当然是库基人，你会为他们说话。
I hope your family/village is safe. I understand what normal people like you are going through. The state government is against you and you have all rights to defend against it.
我希望你的家人/村庄平安无事。我理解像你这样的普通人的感受。邦政府反对你们，你完全有权利自卫。
我希望你的家人/村庄平安无事。我理解像你这样的普通人的感受。邦政府反对你们，你完全有权利自卫。
That_Peculiar_Guy
I will always believe what I see and hear with my own eyes and ears, over what the Meitei claimed to see all the way from Imphal.
我将永远相信自己的眼睛看到、耳朵听到的东西，而不是远在英帕尔的梅泰人所声称看到的东西。
I will always believe what I see and hear with my own eyes and ears, over what the Meitei claimed to see all the way from Imphal.
我将永远相信自己的眼睛看到、耳朵听到的东西，而不是远在英帕尔的梅泰人所声称看到的东西。
From CM Biren waiving picture of Single and Double barrel guns and calling them AK-47 and M-16.
Biren首席部长挥舞着一张单发和双管枪的图片，并将之称作AK-47和M-16。
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Biren首席部长挥舞着一张单发和双管枪的图片，并将之称作AK-47和M-16。
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Meitei claiming Meitei medical student being raped in Churachandpur. Only to be debunked by the supposedly victim father Dr. Achouba that no such thing happen to her daughter.
梅泰人声称梅泰医学院的学生在楚拉昌普遭到强奸。却被所谓的“受害者父亲”阿楚巴医生揭穿，说她的女儿没有发生这种事。
梅泰人声称梅泰医学院的学生在楚拉昌普遭到强奸。却被所谓的“受害者父亲”阿楚巴医生揭穿，说她的女儿没有发生这种事。
Meitei using pictures of Domestic violence victims from Arunachal as their victim during their Jantar Mantar protest.
梅泰人使用来自X邦（我藏南）的家庭暴力受害者的照片，当作他们在简塔·曼塔抗议活动中的受害者。
梅泰人使用来自X邦（我藏南）的家庭暴力受害者的照片，当作他们在简塔·曼塔抗议活动中的受害者。
Meitei media outlets claiming "Lungi clad Kuki militants infiltrating from Myanmar (Who the fuck wear Lungi among the Manipur tribals?)
梅泰媒体声称“穿着Lungi（印度腰布）的库基武装分子从缅甸渗透进来(谁踏马会在曼尼普尔部落穿Lungi ?)”
梅泰媒体声称“穿着Lungi（印度腰布）的库基武装分子从缅甸渗透进来(谁踏马会在曼尼普尔部落穿Lungi ?)”
Claiming a 70+ old lady with mental illness as suicide bomber to justify her cold blooded murder in Imphal.
声称一名70多岁的精神病老太太是自杀式炸弹袭击者，为她在英帕尔的冷血谋杀辩护。
声称一名70多岁的精神病老太太是自杀式炸弹袭击者，为她在英帕尔的冷血谋杀辩护。
You choose to believe who you want to believe.
你选择相信你想相信的人。
你选择相信你想相信的人。
mathelic
I am not talking about what the meitei have claimed to see all the way from Imphal. I know meitei is against you, I always take what they claim with a pinch of salt.
我说的不是远在英帕尔的梅泰人所声称看到的东西。我知道梅泰人跟你们对立，我对他们的说法总是半信半疑。
I am not talking about what the meitei have claimed to see all the way from Imphal. I know meitei is against you, I always take what they claim with a pinch of salt.
我说的不是远在英帕尔的梅泰人所声称看到的东西。我知道梅泰人跟你们对立，我对他们的说法总是半信半疑。
What you said about Meitei and Biren is true. I am not deny that.
你说的关于梅泰和Biren的东西是真的。我不否认。
你说的关于梅泰和Biren的东西是真的。我不否认。
Kukis can't deny that they are not forcefully collecting lakhs of rupees from each family from the other minority communities, killing their cattles, taking away their vehicles at gunpoint. You also can't deny that there's illegal infiltration from Myanmar and the whole reason for this conflict is the NRC that's passed in Manipur which would not allow "few refugees" their minority rights that they are enjoying now. You also can't deny the crores worth of drugs that is seized from vacant Kuki houses in Imphal and curb on drugs is another reason why Kukis are fighting. Don't act like a Saint buddy. Sure you're being targeted by the state government. But we can't just ignore the atrocities committed by your community. You can't hide away from it. You can, however, live in denial.
但库基人也不能否认，他们没有从其他少数民族群体的每个家庭强行收取数万卢比，杀了他们的牛，用枪指着他们的车。你也不能否认有来自缅甸的非法渗透，这场冲突的全部原因是曼尼普尔邦通过的NRC法案，它不允许“少数难民”享受他们现在享受的少数民族权利。你也不能否认，在英帕尔的空置的库基人房子里查获了价值数千万卢比的毒品，而对毒品的限制是库基人战斗的另一个原因。别表现得像个圣人。邦政府当然盯上你们了。但我们不能无视你们族群犯下的暴行。你们无法从中脱身。然而，你可以继续否认。
但库基人也不能否认，他们没有从其他少数民族群体的每个家庭强行收取数万卢比，杀了他们的牛，用枪指着他们的车。你也不能否认有来自缅甸的非法渗透，这场冲突的全部原因是曼尼普尔邦通过的NRC法案，它不允许“少数难民”享受他们现在享受的少数民族权利。你也不能否认，在英帕尔的空置的库基人房子里查获了价值数千万卢比的毒品，而对毒品的限制是库基人战斗的另一个原因。别表现得像个圣人。邦政府当然盯上你们了。但我们不能无视你们族群犯下的暴行。你们无法从中脱身。然而，你可以继续否认。
I'm not meitei.
我不是梅泰人。
我不是梅泰人。
That_Peculiar_Guy
I'm not claiming you are Meitei. But if we are to talk about insurgency in Manipur. The valley based Meitei terrorist are the blueprint of insurgency in Manipur. Out of 44 groups listed by MHA as terror outfits. 6 of them are Meitei militant group (PLA, PREPAK, MPLF, KCP, KYKL, UNLF) whose common goal is Independence from India. No Kuki insurgent groups among the list.
我没说你是梅泰人。但如果我们要谈论曼尼普尔邦的叛乱。驻在山谷的梅泰恐怖分子是曼尼普尔邦叛乱的蓝图。在内政部列出的44个恐怖组织中，其中6个是梅泰武装组织(PLA, PREPAK, MPLF, KCP, KYKL, UNLF)，他们的共同目标是从印度独立。这份名单中没有库基叛乱组织。
I'm not claiming you are Meitei. But if we are to talk about insurgency in Manipur. The valley based Meitei terrorist are the blueprint of insurgency in Manipur. Out of 44 groups listed by MHA as terror outfits. 6 of them are Meitei militant group (PLA, PREPAK, MPLF, KCP, KYKL, UNLF) whose common goal is Independence from India. No Kuki insurgent groups among the list.
我没说你是梅泰人。但如果我们要谈论曼尼普尔邦的叛乱。驻在山谷的梅泰恐怖分子是曼尼普尔邦叛乱的蓝图。在内政部列出的44个恐怖组织中，其中6个是梅泰武装组织(PLA, PREPAK, MPLF, KCP, KYKL, UNLF)，他们的共同目标是从印度独立。这份名单中没有库基叛乱组织。
We are never against CM Biren "War on Drugs". In fact, various CSOs from different tribes issued a public statement of support for it. It is the vilification and dehumanization of the whole Kuki community as Refugee, Illegal Immigrant, Poppy Planter, Drug Peddler, etc that we are fiercely against. If CM Biren's Goverment is really against Drugs. Why did he pressured Brinda to drop Drugs case?
我们从不反对Biren邦长的“禁毒战争”。事实上，来自不同部落的各种民间社会组织发表了公开声明表示支持。我们强烈反对的是对整个库基社区的诽谤和非人化，将其视为难民、非法移民、种罂粟的、毒贩子等。如果Biren邦长真的反对毒品，他为什么要逼布林达放弃毒品案?
我们从不反对Biren邦长的“禁毒战争”。事实上，来自不同部落的各种民间社会组织发表了公开声明表示支持。我们强烈反对的是对整个库基社区的诽谤和非人化，将其视为难民、非法移民、种罂粟的、毒贩子等。如果Biren邦长真的反对毒品，他为什么要逼布林达放弃毒品案?
Edit: The whole NRC thing is only recently brought up by Meitei after all the above mentioned narratives, as well as their attempt to make the Manipur violence as a conflict between Hindu vs Christian religion, to garnered support from mainland Hindus, spectacularly backfired in their face.
编辑：在所有上述叙述之后，NRC那回事是梅泰人最近才提出的，而且他们试图将曼尼普尔邦的暴力事件描述为印度教徒与基督教之间的冲突，以获得本土印度教徒的支持，结果适得其反。
编辑：在所有上述叙述之后，NRC那回事是梅泰人最近才提出的，而且他们试图将曼尼普尔邦的暴力事件描述为印度教徒与基督教之间的冲突，以获得本土印度教徒的支持，结果适得其反。
The crux of the current violence is the Meitei's ambition to be registered as ST (which ironically they previously refused and look down upon), even after being already listed as OBC, SC, EWS.
当前暴力局势的关键是梅泰人想要注册为ST（Scheduled Tribes 特殊部落）(讽刺的是，他们之前拒绝并看不起这个身份)，即使他们已经被列为OBC（Other Backward Classes其他后备阶层）, SC（Schedule Castes 预定种姓）, EWS（Economically Weaker Sections经济弱势群体）。
当前暴力局势的关键是梅泰人想要注册为ST（Scheduled Tribes 特殊部落）(讽刺的是，他们之前拒绝并看不起这个身份)，即使他们已经被列为OBC（Other Backward Classes其他后备阶层）, SC（Schedule Castes 预定种姓）, EWS（Economically Weaker Sections经济弱势群体）。
detectiveboner
"If CM Biren's Goverment is really against Drugs. Why did he pressured Brinda to drop Drugs case?"
“如果Biren邦长真的反对毒品，他为什么要逼布林达放弃毒品案?”
"If CM Biren's Goverment is really against Drugs. Why did he pressured Brinda to drop Drugs case?"
“如果Biren邦长真的反对毒品，他为什么要逼布林达放弃毒品案?”
Because he is a chicken. And that drug lord who was caught? Lhukhosei Zou, a kuki, known as the kingpin of drug cartel in Manipur. Man so powerful he can influence the CM and shake the entire state. What happens when there are 10s of drugs lords like Mr. Zou who came from Myanmar? Civil War - that's what's happening in Manipur right now. Wake up man!
因为他是个胆小鬼。而且那个被抓的毒枭呢? 刘霍西·邹，库基人，曼尼普尔贩毒集团的头头。天呐，他竟然强大到可以影响首席部长，撼动整个邦。像邹先生这样来自缅甸的毒枭如果有几十个怎么办? 内战——这就是曼尼普尔正在发生的事情。醒醒吧!
因为他是个胆小鬼。而且那个被抓的毒枭呢? 刘霍西·邹，库基人，曼尼普尔贩毒集团的头头。天呐，他竟然强大到可以影响首席部长，撼动整个邦。像邹先生这样来自缅甸的毒枭如果有几十个怎么办? 内战——这就是曼尼普尔正在发生的事情。醒醒吧!
A-R-Y-A
If you get your info about Burmese kukis through others, it is second hand info. Not first hand.
如果你关于缅甸库基人的信息是从别人那里得到的，那是二手信息。而不是第一手的。
If you get your info about Burmese kukis through others, it is second hand info. Not first hand.
如果你关于缅甸库基人的信息是从别人那里得到的，那是二手信息。而不是第一手的。
But whatever. The situation is complicated and yet cannot be allowed to perpetuate without end in sight. Hopefully, there would be a peaceful resolution in the near future.
但随便了。局势很复杂，但不能让它长期下去而看不到尽头。希望在不久的将来会有一个和平的解决方案。
但随便了。局势很复杂，但不能让它长期下去而看不到尽头。希望在不久的将来会有一个和平的解决方案。
mathelic
Sorry about that. It's a second hand info. I had got it from my parents, close relatives and friends. Hopefully, it comes to an end. :)
很抱歉。这是二手信息。我是从父母、亲戚和朋友那里得到的。希望这一切都能结束。
Sorry about that. It's a second hand info. I had got it from my parents, close relatives and friends. Hopefully, it comes to an end. :)
很抱歉。这是二手信息。我是从父母、亲戚和朋友那里得到的。希望这一切都能结束。
deadsix6
And did your parents learn that first hand or did they learn it from someone?
是你父母亲自了解的，还是从别人那里听来的?
And did your parents learn that first hand or did they learn it from someone?
是你父母亲自了解的，还是从别人那里听来的?
My man over here denying peoples own experiences based on essentially chinese whispers
天呐，有人根据基本上是中国人的耳语的传闻，在这里否认别人的亲身经历。
天呐，有人根据基本上是中国人的耳语的传闻，在这里否认别人的亲身经历。
mathelic
It was my bad that I said first hand, but I had also mentioned that I received it from people who saw it. You can take his words, but it's a common sight in Manipur buddy.
我说那是第一手资料，是我的错，但我也提到过，我是从看过它的人那里了解到的。你可以相信他的话，但这在曼尼普尔邦很常见。
It was my bad that I said first hand, but I had also mentioned that I received it from people who saw it. You can take his words, but it's a common sight in Manipur buddy.
我说那是第一手资料，是我的错，但我也提到过，我是从看过它的人那里了解到的。你可以相信他的话，但这在曼尼普尔邦很常见。
deadsix6
And yet the two manipuris I know do not corroborate it, and warn me against believing anything other than first hand experiences.
然而，我认识的两位曼尼普尔人并没有证实这一点，并警告我不要相信任何东西，除非是第一手的经验。
And yet the two manipuris I know do not corroborate it, and warn me against believing anything other than first hand experiences.
然而，我认识的两位曼尼普尔人并没有证实这一点，并警告我不要相信任何东西，除非是第一手的经验。
mathelic
That's okay. It's already third hand by the time it reached you from me. You can choose to ignore it. I'm not here to convince anyone about anything. I am sane and I'm not making up stuff which has the potential to fuel the conflict. Have a good day.
没关系。我传达给你的时候已经是第三手了。你可以选择无视。我不是来说服任何人的。我很理智，我不会编造可能加剧冲突的东西。祝你过得愉快。
That's okay. It's already third hand by the time it reached you from me. You can choose to ignore it. I'm not here to convince anyone about anything. I am sane and I'm not making up stuff which has the potential to fuel the conflict. Have a good day.
没关系。我传达给你的时候已经是第三手了。你可以选择无视。我不是来说服任何人的。我很理智，我不会编造可能加剧冲突的东西。祝你过得愉快。
detectiveboner
"What make you say the frontline warriors of Kuki are mostly from Myanmar?"
“你凭什么说库基的前线战士大多来自缅甸?”
"What make you say the frontline warriors of Kuki are mostly from Myanmar?"
“你凭什么说库基的前线战士大多来自缅甸?”
I can prove it with hundreds of videos and images. You know it. You have seen it too. Even the Governor of Manipur has officially mentioned it. Injured Myanmar warriors getting treated at Churchandpur district Hospital, meitei victims narrating horror stories about Myanmar militants burning down houses...there are many proofs.
我可以用数百个视频和图片来证明这一点。你知道的。你也看到了。就连曼尼普尔邦首席部长也正式提到了这一点。受伤的缅甸战士在Churchandpur地区医院接受治疗，梅泰族受害者讲述缅甸武装分子烧毁房屋的恐怖故事……有很多证据。
我可以用数百个视频和图片来证明这一点。你知道的。你也看到了。就连曼尼普尔邦首席部长也正式提到了这一点。受伤的缅甸战士在Churchandpur地区医院接受治疗，梅泰族受害者讲述缅甸武装分子烧毁房屋的恐怖故事……有很多证据。
"a few refugee seeking shelter in Manipur" Are you sure? Before the violence broke out, 2,300+ illegal migrants were tracked and caught in just 3/4 days in Churchandpur. This is why the kuki oppose the NRC. (Source - https://www.thehindu.com/news/national/home-ministry-asked-manipur-and-mizoram-governments-to-record-biometrics-of-illegal-migrants-by-september-30/article67064173.ece )
"几个难民在曼尼普尔寻求庇护" 你确定吗? 在暴力事件爆发之前，在Churchandpur，仅3、4天就追踪并逮捕了2300多名非法移民。这就是为什么库基人反对NRC法案。
"几个难民在曼尼普尔寻求庇护" 你确定吗? 在暴力事件爆发之前，在Churchandpur，仅3、4天就追踪并逮捕了2300多名非法移民。这就是为什么库基人反对NRC法案。
No one is saint here. Both communities fucked up. Govt fucked up. Let's accept it and hope there is peace and harmony in Manipur again.
这件事里没有圣人。两个族群都搞砸了。政府搞砸了。让我们接受现实，希望曼尼普尔邦再次和平与和谐。
这件事里没有圣人。两个族群都搞砸了。政府搞砸了。让我们接受现实，希望曼尼普尔邦再次和平与和谐。
mathelic
I thought everyone knows about it by now. It's one of the major reasons for the riot.
我以为现在大家都知道。这是暴乱的主要原因之一。
I thought everyone knows about it by now. It's one of the major reasons for the riot.
我以为现在大家都知道。这是暴乱的主要原因之一。
That_Peculiar_Guy
The most popular News outlets of Manipur in English are both based in the Meitei dominated state capital Imphal. They are both owned by Meitei and only publish news in favour of the Meitei community. Most of the mainstream medias get their source about Manipur violence from them.
曼尼普尔最受欢迎的英语新闻媒体都设在梅泰人主导的邦首府英帕尔。它们都是梅泰人所有的，只发布有利于梅泰族群的新闻。大多数主流媒体从他们那里获得曼尼普尔邦暴力事件的信源。
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The most popular News outlets of Manipur in English are both based in the Meitei dominated state capital Imphal. They are both owned by Meitei and only publish news in favour of the Meitei community. Most of the mainstream medias get their source about Manipur violence from them.
曼尼普尔最受欢迎的英语新闻媒体都设在梅泰人主导的邦首府英帕尔。它们都是梅泰人所有的，只发布有利于梅泰族群的新闻。大多数主流媒体从他们那里获得曼尼普尔邦暴力事件的信源。
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Even till now, you won't find them write about the viral video where Two Kuki women were stripped naked, paraded and raped by the Meitei mob.
即使到现在，你也不会发现他们报道那个热门视频，即两个库基族女人被梅泰人暴徒剥光衣服，游街并强奸。
即使到现在，你也不会发现他们报道那个热门视频，即两个库基族女人被梅泰人暴徒剥光衣服，游街并强奸。
mathelic
That is indeed true. I have seen it too. I have also seen that they is trying to act really positive like the CM of Manipur and don't cover all atrocities by both the parties.
确实如此。我也看到了。我还看到他们试图像曼尼普尔邦首席部长那样装得非常积极，不报道双方的所有暴行。
That is indeed true. I have seen it too. I have also seen that they is trying to act really positive like the CM of Manipur and don't cover all atrocities by both the parties.
确实如此。我也看到了。我还看到他们试图像曼尼普尔邦首席部长那样装得非常积极，不报道双方的所有暴行。
Bridgewasi
It's NOT both the sides. The Hindu Meiteis are genociding Christian Kukis. The Kukis have to defend themselves because the Meitei government will certainly not.
不是双方。印度教的梅泰人正在灭绝基督教的库基人。库基人必须保护自己，因为梅泰人的政府肯定不会这么做。
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It's NOT both the sides. The Hindu Meiteis are genociding Christian Kukis. The Kukis have to defend themselves because the Meitei government will certainly not.
不是双方。印度教的梅泰人正在灭绝基督教的库基人。库基人必须保护自己，因为梅泰人的政府肯定不会这么做。
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mathelic
I am from Manipur and I am victim to both the parties. I'm not taking sides cause I know what's happening.
我来自曼尼普尔邦，我是双方的受害者。我不会偏袒任何一方，因为我知道发生了什么。
I am from Manipur and I am victim to both the parties. I'm not taking sides cause I know what's happening.
我来自曼尼普尔邦，我是双方的受害者。我不会偏袒任何一方，因为我知道发生了什么。
Btw, how did you come to that conclusion? You can't be spitting dumb shit on such critical issues.
顺便问一下，你是怎么得出这个结论的? 你不能在这么关键的问题上说蠢话。
顺便问一下，你是怎么得出这个结论的? 你不能在这么关键的问题上说蠢话。
Blackwater-bay
You are Hindu meitei
你就是印度教的梅泰人。
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You are Hindu meitei
你就是印度教的梅泰人。
原创翻译：龙腾网 https://www.ltaaa.cn 转载请注明出处
mathelic
Did I hurt your one-sided belief by speaking against you? I'm neither Meitei nor Kuki.
我说了不利于你的话，伤害到你的偏听偏信了吗? 我既不是梅泰人也不是库基人。
Did I hurt your one-sided belief by speaking against you? I'm neither Meitei nor Kuki.
我说了不利于你的话，伤害到你的偏听偏信了吗? 我既不是梅泰人也不是库基人。
Bridgewasi
No, he hurt your two-faced bothsideism.
不，他伤害到了你那两面派的各打五十大板。
No, he hurt your two-faced bothsideism.
不，他伤害到了你那两面派的各打五十大板。
mathelic
Bothsideism is always two-faced. You have very weak comprehension skills, as i said.
各打五十大板永远是两面派。你的理解能力很差，我说过的。
Bothsideism is always two-faced. You have very weak comprehension skills, as i said.
各打五十大板永远是两面派。你的理解能力很差，我说过的。
kamakamsa_reddit
Just read or Google about Manipur history. There were even infighting between the same group. Christians and Hindus alike.
只需要读书，或者谷歌曼尼普尔的历史。同一个群体之间甚至都有争斗。跟基督教和印度教一个鸟样。
Just read or Google about Manipur history. There were even infighting between the same group. Christians and Hindus alike.
只需要读书，或者谷歌曼尼普尔的历史。同一个群体之间甚至都有争斗。跟基督教和印度教一个鸟样。
Your agenda to blame one party so that you can choose a cleaner side is blinding the truth.
你的议程是责怪一方，这样你就可以选择更干净的一方，这蒙蔽了真相。
你的议程是责怪一方，这样你就可以选择更干净的一方，这蒙蔽了真相。
Reality is very complex.
真相很复杂。
真相很复杂。
alv0694
Meiteis are implementing the guju model. They did vote bjp after all
梅泰人在实施古吉拉特模式。毕竟他们选了人民党。
Meiteis are implementing the guju model. They did vote bjp after all
梅泰人在实施古吉拉特模式。毕竟他们选了人民党。
mathelic
This so so false. Kukis voted for BJP as well. Most of the Kuki MLAs are BJP except a few from Saikul, Saitu and Singhat constituency. You can't lie about something that's easily available on the Internet unless that's your core intention.
这是大错特错。库基人也投票给人民党。除了赛库尔、赛图和Singhat选区的少数议员外，库基人的大多数议员都是人民党的。你不能对互联网上很容易找到的东西撒谎，除非那是你的核心目的。
This so so false. Kukis voted for BJP as well. Most of the Kuki MLAs are BJP except a few from Saikul, Saitu and Singhat constituency. You can't lie about something that's easily available on the Internet unless that's your core intention.
这是大错特错。库基人也投票给人民党。除了赛库尔、赛图和Singhat选区的少数议员外，库基人的大多数议员都是人民党的。你不能对互联网上很容易找到的东西撒谎，除非那是你的核心目的。
SladeDeathWilson
It's painful to watch people from outside paint this clash as a bjp fueled one or Hindus vs Christians. Fhe truth is so muddled that there isn't one Truth at this point. Both sides have committed atrocities snd at this point we need to give power to a truly neutral force and take down armed miscreants on both sides.
看着外界把这场冲突描绘成人民党煽动的冲突，或印度教徒与基督教徒的冲突，真是让人痛苦。真相是如此混乱，以至于到现在还没有一个真相。双方都犯下了暴行，在这一点上，我们需要把权力交给一支真正中立的力量，并打倒双方的武装恶棍。
It's painful to watch people from outside paint this clash as a bjp fueled one or Hindus vs Christians. Fhe truth is so muddled that there isn't one Truth at this point. Both sides have committed atrocities snd at this point we need to give power to a truly neutral force and take down armed miscreants on both sides.
看着外界把这场冲突描绘成人民党煽动的冲突，或印度教徒与基督教徒的冲突，真是让人痛苦。真相是如此混乱，以至于到现在还没有一个真相。双方都犯下了暴行，在这一点上，我们需要把权力交给一支真正中立的力量，并打倒双方的武装恶棍。
mathelic
Exactly. I'm non political and I am not even a part of this sub. But this subreddit looks highly leftist. Both the state and centre BJP is wrong here, not denying that. But people choose what they feel right. If this was forecasted, they would have probably fought for presidents rule before the last election.
完全正确。我不是政治人士，我甚至没有加入这个版，但是这个版块看起来非常左派。邦和中央人民党在这个问题上都错了，这一点不容否认。但是人们会选择他们认为正确的。如果预测到这个结果，他们可能会在上次选举之前争夺总统的统治权。
Exactly. I'm non political and I am not even a part of this sub. But this subreddit looks highly leftist. Both the state and centre BJP is wrong here, not denying that. But people choose what they feel right. If this was forecasted, they would have probably fought for presidents rule before the last election.
完全正确。我不是政治人士，我甚至没有加入这个版，但是这个版块看起来非常左派。邦和中央人民党在这个问题上都错了，这一点不容否认。但是人们会选择他们认为正确的。如果预测到这个结果，他们可能会在上次选举之前争夺总统的统治权。
alv0694
Did those kuki mlas resign by now
现在那些库基族邦议会议员辞职了吗？
Did those kuki mlas resign by now
现在那些库基族邦议会议员辞职了吗？
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