讨论:秘鲁发生大范围外星人袭击事件,当地检察官表示系非法矿工假扮外星人行凶
2023-08-13 yzy86 10715
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@Guru316
At this point I genuinely hope aliens are real, because if they aren't, that would mean that we are the most intelligent species in existence. And after the last few years I can't think of anything more terrifying than that.

此时此刻,我真心希望外星人是真实存在的,因为如果它们是假的,那就意味着我们是现存最聪明的物种。经过过去的几年,我是想不出还有什么比这更可怕的了。

It hasn't even been proved we are the most intelligent species on this planet.

(回)连“我们是这颗星球上最智慧的物种”都还没得到证明呢。
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@BigMac87963
When it’s unknown creatures, bigfoot, ghosts, and aliens, it’s shot in such horrible ass quality that even 144p is laughing at it

只要是未知生物、大脚怪、鬼魂和外星人,拍摄的画质就非常糟糕,连144P的画质都能嘲笑它
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I think it’s just because footage is usually taken far away from the alien or whatever so the reason it looks low quality is because someone zoomed it in super far

(回)我认为这只是因为,视频通常是在远离外星人的什么地方拍摄的,所以它看起来画质很低是因为有人在相隔超级远的地方放大了拍的。

you really think a third world country citizens living near the jungle have the money to buy a decent camera to film at night (im from peru)

(回)你真的认为,住在丛林附近的第三世界国家公民能有钱买一台像样的摄影机,好在晚上拍摄外星人?(我就是秘鲁人)
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Yep. I was taking pics of a helicopter on my semi-recent iPhone from ~800ft away and it looked pretty much like all of those ufo photos

(回)是的。当时我用我那还算比较新款的苹果机在大约800英尺外拍一架直升机,那些照片看起来活像所有那些ufo的照片。

Someone from Peru, Lima (the capital) might be able to afford the last gen cellphone with 4.72 fuckillion pixels.
Someone from a rural town from the amazon jungle, probably still rocks the 3 years used, 2016 smartphone.
Also remember that the remote jungle gets pitch black, fucking up the footage even more.
I'm not saying it's legit, but I'm saying there's reasons for it to be shitty this time around.

(回)来自秘鲁首都利马的人可能买得起4.72亿像素的最新一代手机。而来自亚马逊丛林小村镇的人可能还在用那部已经用了3年的2016年款智能手机。
还须记住的是,偏远的丛林会变得漆黑一片,这就进一步劣化了视频。
我并不是说它靠谱可信,我的意思是这一次它画质烂是有些理由的。

They're using flip phones they're peruvian natives

(回)他们使用的是翻盖手机,他们是秘鲁本地人

If the footage were high quality, then you’d easily be able to tell the recorded subject was not alien nor mysterious.

(回)如果这段视频清晰度很高,那你很容易就能辨别出被拍到的物体既不是外星人,也谈不上神秘。
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People are quick to jump up and down, freaking out over video quality rather than asking themselves why this is almost always the case. If by any chance these encounters are legit then it gets to a point where you need to think outside the box and wonder if the picture is being manipulated somehow.

(回)人们一上来就上蹿下跳,因为视频质量而极度亢奋,却不问问自己,为什么情况几乎总是这样。万一这些遭遇是靠谱可信的,那么就到了需要你跳出条框思考的时候了,然后去琢磨这张照片是否以某种方式被篡改了。

@Chromatome
There's an upxe on the situation. According to local Peruvian prosecutors the "aliens" are actually a group of illegal gold miners wearing costumes to scare the villagers off their land so they can mine.

事态有了最新的进展。据秘鲁当地的检察官称,这些“外星人”实际上是一群穿着戏服的非法金矿矿工,目的就是吓唬村民,好让他们离开自己的土地,这样他们就能采矿了。

@Kevinnn111
Peru is full of wild supernatural stories. My uncle would have tons of passed down stories of leprechauns, banshees, aliens, angels, etc. The Peruvian sierra and jungle can get very secluded and dangerous especially at night so it makes sense that people have creepy encounters

秘鲁充满了狂野的超自然故事。我叔叔那儿就有大把关于小妖精(矮精灵)、女妖、外星人、天使等故事,都是流传下来的。秘鲁的山脉和丛林也是可以非常僻静、危险的,特别是在晚上,所以人们经历各种惊悚的遭遇,也是说得通的。

Sounds just like all other 3rd world countries lol

(回)听起来酷似其他所有的第三世界国家,哈哈

Southeast Asia (especially Malaysia and Indonesia): let us introduce ourselves

(回)东南亚(特别是马来西亚和印尼):请允许我们介绍一下自己。
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As a peruvian i can confirm, our hills and jungles have a lot of really weird happenings

(回)作为秘鲁人,我可以证明,我们的山丘和丛林发生过很多稀奇古怪的事情

Also the fact that there's legitimate records of black magic being practiced around the country.
The occult and supernatural are everywhere here, lul.

(回)而且,事实就是:全国各地都有很靠谱的施行黑魔法的记录。
在我们这里,玄秘和超自然现象随处可见呵呵。

its the shrooms

(回)嗑致幻蘑菇嗑的。

Oh yes, my mother, who is from Peru, also said stories that almost all of her uncles, and even grandfather, experienced this several times there.

(回)是的,我那来自秘鲁的母亲也说过这类故事,这种事,她几乎所有的叔叔,甚至祖父,都在那里经历过好几次。

as an alien I can confirm that Peru is scary.

(回)我就是外星人,我可以证明秘鲁那地方老吓人了。

@hiddendrifts
time to fly a drone into the jungle and see what comes up

是时候派架无人机飞进丛林了,且看会冒出些什么。

@christianr5501
There is a lot of illegal mining on certain rural areas of Peru, which are very poor and forgotten by the government. Some areas like VRAEM are filled with narcotrafic and remanents of terrorist groups. The most developed city is the capital city of Lima, and other big cities, but a lot of the country is very under developed. The hard terrain of the andes and the amazon, along with the corruption of the government are big factors in this issue.

在秘鲁的某些农村地区,存在大量的非法采矿活动,这些地区非常贫困,也被政府遗忘。阿普里马克、埃内和曼塔罗河谷地区之类的地区充斥着毒品贩运和恐怖组织残余势力。最发达的城市是首都利马,以及其他大城市,但该国有大片地区是非常落后的。安第斯山脉和亚马逊地区的严酷地形以及政府腐败,是造成这一问题的重要因素。

well, it has. Scaring an ignorant tribe of people by using weird suits and weapon is a good way to rob terrain

(回)好吧,确实如此。使用奇装异服和古怪武器吓唬愚昧的部落民,是抢劫这片地的好方法。
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@criticthing
As someone who’s not Peruvian, nor ever been to Peru, but on occasion do enjoy Peruvian cuisine, I can confidently confirm that this is an alien attack in a Peruvian village.

作为一个不是秘鲁人、从未去过秘鲁,但偶尔会真心喜欢秘鲁美食的人,我敢打包票,这就是针对秘鲁村庄的一次外星人袭击。

@paulaldo9413
The drone incident scenario is pretty likely. That's why the military even bothers to come in.
DIY drones can be lethal because A) they use off-the-shelf parts, including the blades, so they need to spin at higher RPM, and B) they lack safety features commercial drones have, like propeller guards, collapsible blades, or the propeller auto-stop whenever they hit something. There are incidents where DIY drones actually kill people. Those spinning blades are no joke.

有很大的可能,这是一起无人机事件。这就是为什么军方都懒得介入。自制的无人机可能是致命的,因为:
A)它们使用现成的零件,包括桨叶,因此它们需要以更高的转速旋转,
B)它们缺乏商用无人机所拥有的用以维护安全的特征,例如螺旋桨防护装置、可折叠桨叶或螺旋桨在撞到东西时的自动停止功能。确实有过自制无人机杀死人的事件。那些旋转的桨叶可不是闹着玩的。

@mba7474
Finally something that would unite the world against this "external" threat.

终于出了这样一件事,能让全世界联合起来对抗这种“外部”威胁。

How "convenient", isn't it? Right after the UAP hearings too.

(回)这也太“省事”了吧?刚开完不明空中现象(UAP)听证会就出了这档子事

@sebacs999
Bro Im from Chile, mobilize the army or theyre gonna move here next

兄弟们,我来自智利,动员军队吧,否则它们下一步就会搬到这里来了

@cristianoribeiro9895
Man, I live in Brasil and these things happen only in remote areas. This case is next to the brasilian border where an indigenous tribe has been attacked few year s ago as well. But the army covered it all up. Like the Varginha case. The ahit is real indeed dude

伙计,我就住在巴西,这类事情只会发生在偏远地区。这起事件的发生地就紧挨着巴西边境,那里的一个土著部落几年前也受到了袭击。但军队掩盖了这一切。就像瓦尔吉尼亚事件一样。老兄,这破事肯定是真的。
(译注:瓦尔吉尼亚不明飞行物事件发生于1996年,据说巴西当局捕获了一名以上的双足外星人)

@exoticdachoo007
I do find it interesting how we humans instantly think aliens will be hostile when they land. If they're sentient enough to have a high tech spaceship then they're sentient enough to attempt communication before engaging in combat

我觉得很有趣的一点是,当外星人登陆时,我们人类顷刻间就认为它们是敌对的。如果它们的知觉足以让它们拥有一艘高科技飞船,那它们也就有足够的知觉在交战前尝试交流。

@natesturm4366
It actually makes me wonder if those locals are doing this to get actual response from their government on gang/cartel activity. It wouldn't surprise me to hear that being done with the abysmal track record of governments not intervening or caring about gang violence.

事实上,这事不禁让我好奇,这些当地人做出这样的事情,莫非是为了让他们的政府对帮派/贩毒集团的活动作出切实的反应。政府不干预、不关心帮派暴力的纪录简直糟糕透顶,那么听到他们干出这种事,我也不会感到惊讶。

@vulcanrbx5189
our perspective of aliens are going to absolutely ruin all semblance of diplomacy if the aliens actually turn out to be real

如果最终证明外星人真的存在,那我们对外星人的看法绝对会毁掉所有明面上的外交。
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If theyre really advanced and avle to move around planets, i bet they would have no solid body

(回)如果它们真有那么先进而且能在行星间移动,我敢打赌它们的身体不会是实体。

We wouldn’t be able to fathom their biology

(回)它们的生物机理,我们是捉摸不透的。

They are just AI

(回)它们不过是AI而已。

@thiago-go
This is very similar to what happened in Brazil in the 70's on Amazon's forest villages. There is a 'Plate operation' to investigate lightning obxts hurting people. ('Operação prato' in portuguese). But in that case, there was no 'humanoid predator' spotted. Shit is getting really hardcore..

这和七十年代发生在巴西亚马逊地区林中村的事情也太像了。有过一次“普拉托行动”(葡萄牙语为'Operação prato'),是为了调查电光体伤人。但在那次事件中,并没有发现“人形掠食者”。这破事,往越来越硬核的方向发展了...
(译注:“普拉托行动”(即飞碟行动)发生于1977年,是巴西空军(FAB)为调查帕拉州科拉雷斯市地区不明飞行物而进行的军事行动,该行动持续了四个月)

@jonboll2066
I am from Peru and can confirm we have been invaded by aliens. My cousin Miguel hit one with a stick and tied it to a tree. Then we negotiated a peace treaty and now we are all friends. We fish the rivers together sometimes. Its fine.

我来自秘鲁,我可以证明我们已经被外星人入侵了。我表弟米格尔就用棍子打了一个外星人,还把它绑在了树上。之后,我们经过谈判达成了和平条约,而现在我们都是朋友了。我们有时候会一起去河里钓鱼。没啥问题的。

Ten years ago one of his kind stalked and eliminated an elite special forces crew in central America. There were two survivors. They indicated that when trapped, the creature activated a self-destruct device that destroyed enough rainforest to cover 300 city blocks. Remarkable weaponry.

十年前,他的同类在中美洲跟踪并消灭了一支精英特种部队。当时有两名幸存者。他们指出,这种生物在被困住时启动了自毁装置,摧毁了三百个城市街区大小的雨林。真是非凡的武器。

@americancapitalist9094
I will say, it’s possible- though unlikely that any alien advanced enough to traverse the cosmos would probably have no trouble intentionally or accidentally scrambling electronics, signals and maybe videos. It could explain the classic alien trope. I’m more inclined to believe it’s the government messing with us though.

我觉得这是有可能的,但又不太可能,任何先进到能穿越宇宙的外星人,可能不费吹灰之力就能故意或无意间扰乱电子设备、信号,可能还有视频。这可以解释那些经典的有关外星人的说辞。但我更倾向于相信,这是政府在搞我们。

@John-mf6ky
I've seen the footage of the guy, they found mutilated. It honestly looked pretty damn real to me. Some people had mentioned pihrannas but it was clean and without much blood at all.

我看过那家伙的视频,他们发现尸体已经残缺不全了。老实说,在我看来是非常真实的。有些人提到了食人鱼,但它们会吃得很干净,根本不会有那么多血迹。

@Aksfl440
My father is from Bolivia, my aunt lived in Peru for 2 years, & I have friends from Brazil. I also work in a hot spot for hospitality & work as a photographer for a theme park.
With that being said families will ask me to use their cell phones & I don’t think people realize how slow & poor quality a lot of these phones can be.
Even my Brazilian friends will come here to buy phones from Apple because the options there are either gouged in price or their other affordable options are phones with the quality of a 2009 Samsung. Plus I have to send my family in Bolivia my old smart phones because of the prices there.
Hate to say it, but we’re out of touch to think that a remote village in Peru would have phones that carry anything higher than a 3 megapixel camera.
These phones often lag when you try to capture the images. Just keep that in mind. This camera quality isn’t abnormal, to me, in 2023.

我父亲是玻利维亚人,我的阿姨曾在秘鲁住过两年,我也有来自巴西的朋友。此外,我在一个热点地区(潜在危险区)做招待食宿的工作,并在某个主题公园里任职摄影师。话虽如此,我的家人会要我用他们的手机,我觉得,人们并没有意识到很多这样的手机能有多慢、质量能有多差。连我的巴西朋友都会来我们这里购买苹果手机,因为他们那里的各种选项要么价格虚高,而那些他们买得起的其他选项,质量停留在了2009年的三星手机。而且因为那边的价位,我不得不把我用旧的智能手机寄给在玻利维亚的家人。我也不想说这种话,但我们都无法想象位于秘鲁的一个偏远村庄会拥有配备3百万像素以上摄像头的手机。
当你尝试抓拍影像时,这些手机通常会出现延迟。一定要记在这一点。对我来说,在2023年,这款摄像头的质量不算反常。

@fruto7629
The peruvian people has been harassed by these "things" for decades, if not centuries. There's a lot of native historical literature, paintings,etc where the "Pelacaras" are mentioned, among other weird stuff. The only thing happenig since July is just this case with this town in particular; the Amazon jungle is a HUGE unexplored territory, full with very similar storys.
Something's goin on in there, and now the natives have cellphones , and the media is there. That's the only difference.

秘鲁人民几十年来(如果不是几百年的话)一直受到这些“东西”的骚扰。有很多相关的本土历史文献、绘画等等,都提到了“剥面皮者”,以及其他奇奇怪怪的东西。自七月以来发生的事情正属此类,在这个小镇特别严重而已;亚马逊丛林是一片巨大的未经勘探的地区,相似的故事比比皆是。
(译注:“Pelacaras(剥面皮者)”是秘鲁丛林区居民非常熟悉的一种生物/人,其身材高大,常剥皮取脂,会在尸体中留下大量美元)

My humble opinion: there's something unkown in the jungle thats been there for years hunting this people.
The "narco" and "drones" theorys are actually founded on nothing.
If this is true, Im sure secret services are gonna keep it ... secret.

一些拙见:丛林里存在一些不为人知的东西,多年来一直在猎捕这些人。“毒品”和“无人机”假说实际上毫无根据。如果此事为真,我敢肯定特工部门会保守这个秘密。

@mark5150ty
I've heard some of the villagers firsthand personal descxtion and what they described was not jetpacks. Not only that how do you explain that they were 7ft tall? All the miners just happened to be 7 ft tall Giants? The whole entire explanation sounds suspect.

我听过一些村民的第一手个人描述,他们所描述的可不是什么喷气背包。不仅如此,你要怎么解释它们7英尺的身高?所有矿工恰好都是7英尺高的巨人?这整套解释听起来很可疑。

I can’t believe how stew pid you people are.

(回)我实在无法相信你们这帮人居然这么蠢。

says the guy that does not know how to think for himself

(回)独立思考都不会的家伙,说个屁

Right. Miners are genetically predisposed to be abnormally tall.

(回)是啊是啊。他们是提前在基因层面把矿工设计成异常高大的。

@johndonny443
Why absolutely nobody believes main stream news. Miners who are immune to shotgun blasts and fly away on jet packs. That is nonsense.

这就是为什么绝没有人相信主流新闻。对霰弹枪爆射免疫的矿工,还能靠喷气背包飞行。这是鬼扯。

@apollobernet
Now I’m convinced the aliens sightings are real.

现在我可以确信,外星人目击事件是真实的。

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