加拿大表示,他们有证据可以证明,加拿大公民 Mardep Singh Nijjar 是被印度处决的。现在,印度跑去删除居住在国外的人,这是可以接受的吗?(下)
2023-09-25 童言无忌 10948
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Canada states they have evidence that Mardep Singh Nijjar, a Canadian citizen, was executed by India. Is it now acceptable for India to dexe people living abroad?

加拿大表示,他们有证据可以证明,加拿大公民 Mardep Singh Nijjar 是被印度处决的。现在,印度跑去删除居住在国外的人,这是可以接受的吗?

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Aditya Dahiya
is there proof that Indian government did it?

有证据证明是印度政府干的吗?

Kaustubh Sharma
Do you have fact that India killed him or do you get you info from ghanta banta langarjeets?

你们有证据证明是印度杀了他吗?或者是你们从甘地那里得到了信息?

The Observer
Many Afgan people would disagree with your opinion on Bin Laden.

许多阿富汗人,会不同意你对本拉登的看法。

Rick Garber
Quite likely. Just as many Germans would have disagreed about my views of Hitler, Cambodians vis-à-vis Pol Pot, Ugandans regarding Field Marshal Do tor President for Life Idi Amin, etc.
It doesn’t make them right, now does it?

很可能。正如许多德国人会不同意我对希特勒的看法一样,柬埔寨人不会同意我对波尔布特的看法,乌干达人不会同意我对终身总统伊迪·阿明的看法,等等。
但这并不意味着他们是对的,是这样吗?

Ramesh
It doesn't, just like it doesn't make Canadian administration right about Nijjar.

不能。就像这也不能让加拿大政府对 Nijjar 的看法是正确的一样。

The Observer
Well most Indians would also disagree with your opinion as you mentioned in your original answer.
Please read the article from an Indian English news website. Most Indians consider Nijjar to be a terrorist and they don't feel bad about the assassination.
Hardeep Singh Nijjar landed in Canada with fake papers; 26 years before he was shot | India News - Times of India
India News: Over the past several years, Nijjar had been actively involved in advocating anti-India actions.

正如你在最初的回答中提到的那样,大多数印度人也会不同意你的观点。
请阅读印度英语新闻网站上的文章。大多数印度人认为 Nijjar 是恐怖分子,他们对暗杀事件并不感到难过。
链接:Nijjar 携带假证件抵达加拿大;他被枪杀前的26年 | 印度时报
印度新闻:在过去几年里,Nijjar 一直积极参与倡导反印度行动。

Rick Garber
Sadly that doesn’t portray most Indians in a terribly positive light, does it?

遗憾的是,这并没有从一个非常积极的角度,来描绘大多数印度人,是吗?

The Observer
You are not getting my point.
People all over the world don't hold the same opinion when it comes to the assassination of an alleged terrorist.
Your answer seems alright from western countries perspective.

你没有明白我的意思。
当暗杀的是一名所谓的恐怖分子时,世界各地的人们并不持有相同的观点。
从西方国家的角度来看,你的回答似乎不错。

SN
Most people also feel that Bush and Obama are terrorists. That the US government has been carrying out terrorist activities (aka WAR) supported by Canada, UK…etc. over many years.

大多数人还认为布什和奥巴马是恐怖分子呢。
多年来,美国政府一直在进行恐怖活动(又名战争),这些恐怖活动由加拿大、英国等国提供支持。

Rick Garber
A small minority of people probably do share your bizarre, pro Islamic terrorist perspective.

可能有一小部分人和你一样奇怪,有亲伊斯兰的恐怖主义观点。

Mltr
Look guys, India is too busy to build a strong economy. We have little time to worry about any terrorists living in somebody else's backyard. A few Billion dollar trade with a country is like here and there, which doesn't make much of an impact, especially with a country which is becoming not so friendly. Move on….

看,伙计们,印度太忙了,所以无法建立一个强大的经济。
像我们,根本就没有时间担心有什么恐怖分子正住在别人家里的后院里。
与一个随便在哪儿的国家,有数十亿美元贸易,根本就无关紧要,尤其这个国家还变得不那么友好了。
继续……

Dave Gilbert
Fuk India if they actually are behind it, so far they’ve only said credible evidence but we should completely stop all economic and diplomatic activity with that government if they are behind it, that’s completely unacceptable!

如果印度真的是幕后黑手的话,印度,cnmd。到目前为止,他们只说了有可信的证据。但如果印度真的是幕后黑手,我们应该完全停止与该政府的所有经济和外交活动,这完全是不可接受的!

Rajan Anil Joshi
Please remember Hillary Clinton statement. If you are going to harbour snakes in your backyard so that they will bite your neighbours, one day they will bite you also.

请记住希拉里的发言。如果你打算在后院养蛇,让它们咬你的邻居,总有一天它们也会咬你。

P.M
So you are saying ruin the economy for a terrorist? Are u serious?

所以,你的意思是,为了一个恐怖分子,就要毁掉经济?你是认真的吗?

Dave Gilbert
If he was an actual terrorist he would’ve been arrested and extradited back to India! He came to Canada in 1997! And our economy is a hell of a lot stronger than relying on India, are you serious? Bottom line is another government could’ve had a hand in killing one of our citizens in OUR country, that’s very serious and shouldn’t be taken lightly, in fact it’s a complete slap to all Canadians faces!!

如果他是真的是一个恐怖分子,他会被逮捕并引渡回印度!他于1997年来到加拿大!
比起有依赖性的印度,我们的经济要强大得多。你是认真的吗?
这触犯了我们的底线,另一个政府可能参与杀害了我们国家的一名公民,这是非常严重的,不能够掉以轻心的。事实上,这是对所有加拿大人的一记耳光!!

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P.M
India has been requesting Ottawa for decades to extradite the Khalistan terrorists Canada is harboring to no avail. Either way Canada has no evidence this was done by India, other than strong suspicion based on the persons background. BTW the economy is not very strong, Canadian imports slightly more than their export to India. Either way both countries wouldn't care if trade is cut off, they can deal with other countries to fulfill their needs. Now all i am saying is its not worth cutting out trade and diplomatic relations over a wanted person India is requesting extradition, they just don't ask for random people to be extradited right ? This is all political gimmick that will die down soon. Things wouldn't have been this serious if a white Canadian would have been killed , think about it. Trudeau wants to assure his vote back that he is taking this seriously, just like he does with housing, healthcare and inflation for Canadians. Its a slap on the faces of the Khalistani extremists, not on Canadians. Majority of Canadians are upset with this joker as it is.

几十年来,印度一直要求渥太华引渡加拿大窝藏的卡利斯坦恐怖分子,但没有成功。
无论哪种方式,加拿大都没有证据表明这是印度所为,只是基于个人背景的强烈怀疑。
顺便说一句,你们的经济并没有那么强大,加拿大的进口略多于对印度的出口。
无论哪种方式,如果贸易被切断,两国都不会在意,他们可以与其他国家打交道来满足他们的需求。
现在我想说的是,不值得因为一名通缉犯而切断贸易和外交关系。
印度正在请求引渡,只是他们要求引渡的不是一个随机的人,对吧?
这些都是政治噱头,很快就会消失。
想想看,如果一名加拿大白人被杀,事情就不会这么严重了。特鲁多想向他的支持者保证,他会认真对待这件事,就像他对待加拿大人的住房、医疗保健和通货膨胀一样。这是对卡利斯坦极端分子的一记耳光,而不是对加拿大人的一记耳光。大多数加拿大人对这个小丑感到不安。

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Som Mohanty
Yeah came to Canada on a fake passport, got his citizenship twice rejected, was on Interpol red corner notice when he was given citizenship,
and what u keep barking about rule of law , rule of law ?When Talwinder Parmar ,the prime suspect behind Air India Kanishka bombing fled to Canada , the Canadian government behind the Dad of the present Joker , Trudeau sr rejected extradition requests on what reason u know -”India doesn't have the Queen as the Head of state so Parmar cannot be extradited as per the rules of Extradition amongst commonwealth Countries”

他拿着假护照来到加拿大,两次被拒绝入籍,当他被授予公民身份时,他正在被国际刑警组织通缉。
你一直在说什么法治,法治?当 Talwinder Parmar,印度航空公司爆炸案嫌疑人,逃到加拿大时,现任小丑之父背后的加拿大政府拒绝了引渡请求,原因你知道的——“印度没有女王作为国家元首,所以根据英联邦国家引渡规则, Parmar 不能被引渡。”

Gris Ramachandran
Please do that we don't want relationships with govt that supports terrorists

请这样做,我们不希望与支持恐怖分子的政府建立关系。

Rajiv Khilnani
Najjar was not a Canadian born citizen…..he landed up in Canada on false papers after escaping Indian authorities

Najjar不是在加拿大出生的公民……他在逃离印度当局后,用假证件抵达了加拿大。

Goolge Ggv
If he wasn't a terrorist terrorising USA then he is NO terrorist eg etim OK

如果他不是恐吓美国的恐怖分子,那么他就不是恐怖分子,很好。
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Guruswamy
Let's see. A person very publicly indulges in actions against India. Then, in a foreign country, with justice system beyond India's control, 2 men riding on a motorcycle shoot him dead. Clearly, each step, the actions of the person and that of his execution is designed to maximize public attention. I don't think India is stupid. The know well that such events will only make martyrs of the cause which would perhaps gain from it. My own suspicion is that it is either intra-movement rivalry or those who encourage rebel movements for political leverage are responsible for this murder. I was astonished to find social media flooded with people complementing India for the murder. It had a surreal feeling of the whole thing being orchestrated. True enough, Canada accuses India of the murder, soon after they, apparently, did not get what they wanted in trade negotiations. Somebody who should be a suspect is now going to investigate and pronounce judgement? I doubt that any of the western countries who frequently make demands of economic concessions on Global South are qualified to investigate. Stinks of a set up to falsely implicate, discredit and isolate the Indian Goverment and use it to extract economic and trade concessions.

让我们看看。
这个人非常公开的沉迷于那些针对印度的活动。然后,在一个印度无法控制司法系统的外国,两名骑摩托车的男子开枪打死了他。
很显然,每一步、每个人的行为,执行的过程,都是为了最大限度地提高公众的关注度。
我不认为印度有这么愚蠢。
众所周知,这样的事情,只会让他成为烈士,可能还会从中受益。
我的怀疑是,这起谋杀案要么是他们内部的竞争,要么是那些鼓励反叛运动以获取政治影响力的人做的。
我惊讶地发现,社交媒体上充斥着对印度谋杀案的补充。它有一种梦幻般的感觉,整个事情都是精心安排的。
诚然,加拿大指责印度谋杀,不久之后,他们显然在贸易谈判中没有得到他们想要的。
本应该是嫌疑犯的人,现在要调查并宣布判决?
我认为,任何一个经常要求在“全球南方”问题上做出经济让步的西方国家,都没有资格进行调查。这是一个恶臭的行为,旨在诬陷、抹黑和孤立印度政府,并利用其获取经济和贸易让步。

AbhilAsh Das
What makes the case of Nijjar different from that of Laden? How is he an ordinary Canadian?
Its clear that he tried to migrate to Canada with incorrect identity and he was stopped not once but twice.
India government gave extradition request in 2014 and an accused who tried to break into Canada with illegal identity is granted citizenship in 2015. Tell me what did you understand from this? Which other country in the world will give citizenship to a criminal especially when there is extradition request and interpoll lookout notice in place. Dont tell me Canada is too liberal.

Nijjar 的案子和本拉登的案子有什么不同?他怎么能算是一个普通的加拿大人?
很明显,他试图用不真实的身份移民到加拿大,但不止一次而是两次都被阻止了。
印度政府于2014年提出引渡请求,一名试图以非法身份闯入加拿大的被告于2015年获得了公民身份。
告诉我,你从中了解到了什么?世界上还有哪个国家会给予罪犯公民身份,尤其是在有引渡请求和国际刑警组织通缉的情况下。别告诉我,加拿大太自由了。

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If Laden is a terrorist to you, Nijjar is a terrorist to me. You cannot conveniently decide who is a terrorist and who is not. India gave extradition request multiple times and instead of cooperating with them Canada seems to be protecting the culprits.
Even if he is a legitimate Canadian citizen, He has no right to fight for seperatism in another country. As a Canadian he can ask to carve Khalistan out of Canada and I would call it freedom of expression. When a canadian try to tear apart another country, It becomes Canadas responsibility to control such elements and if not you are silently promoting them. So atleast stop playing victim card.

如果本拉登对你来说是恐怖分子,那么Nijjar对我来说就是恐怖分子。你不能随意的定义谁是恐怖分子谁不是。
印度多次提出引渡请求,加拿大似乎没有与他们合作,而是在保护罪犯。
即使他是合法的加拿大公民,他也无权在另一个国家为分离而战。
作为一名加拿大人,他可以要求将卡利斯坦从加拿大分离,我称之为言论自由。
当一个加拿大人试图分裂另一个国家时,加拿大人有责任控制这些元素,如果不这样做,你就是在默默地推动它们。
所以至少不要再打受害者牌了。

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