苹果承认iPhone 15过热问题,网友给出奇葩解决方案,个个都是人才
2023-10-07 风闻天下 11977
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PandaMan332
That’s pretty hot to touch
Yeah, after translating it to American, it’s 118F.

摸起来相当热
是啊,换算成华氏温度就是118度。

Iamakahige
I have a 3d printer and that is what I set my heated bed to to keep the pla soft and adhered to the bed….. I also used the bed to warm up a phone to soften the glue to remove the screen…….. I wounder if the adhesive and or any waterproof membrane will survive repeate exposure to these temp.

我有一台3D打印机,我会将加热床设定在这个温度来保持PLA(聚乳酸)软化并粘附在加热床上,我还用这个加热床加热手机来软化胶水,从而拆下屏幕。我想知道iPhone15粘合剂和防水层是否能承受重复暴露在这种高温下。

cbytes1001
If it’s true, Apple’s QA has gone down hill quick.

如果是真的,苹果的品控已经快速下滑。

Zoomwafflez
They've had these thermal problems for over a decade. This is what happens when you focus on making the product look good rather then work well

他们在发热方面的问题已经存在十多年了。这就是当你更关注产品外观而不是性能时的后果。

Ultronimono
And they’re gonna throttle down the powerful A17 Pro chip to A16 levels. Just watch.

他们会把强劲的A17 Pro芯片降频到A16的水平。看着吧。

hawk_ky
They already said it’s a bug with initial setup and some specific third party apps.

他们已经说了这是初始设置的bug和某些特定第三方应用的问题。
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Thedracus
There is definitely some room for bad app behavior.
I run the uber app and if I run it my phone refuses to charge because it's too hot. No other app does this.

Brand new iPhone 13 Promax. 全新 iPhone 13 Promax。
确实有一些应用程序出问题的空间。我运行优步时,我的手机会拒绝充电,因为它太热了。没有其他应用程序会这样。我的是全新 iPhone 13 Promax。

cbytes1001
I’ve literally had Apple phones for over a decade and never had thermal problems unless I was in direct sunlight on a hot day. Maybe I just got lucky.

我用苹果手机用了十多年,除非我直接在炎热天气暴露在阳光下,否则从未遇到过热量问题。也许我只是运气好。

Nochnoii
Showering at 45+ degrees is almost unbearable

超过45度的热水洗澡都几乎让人难以忍受。

CosmicCreeperz
I just got the 15 Pro (not max) and the back was way hotter than any phone I have ever had just transferring my data to it and redownloading apps.
Has me a bit worried…

我刚买了15 Pro(不是Max),在传输数据和重新下载应用程序时,背部比我用过的任何手机都要热得多。这让我有点担心。

Pip707
This explains why ever since I upxed to the latest upgrades my phone keeps sending me messages saying my phone is overheating when it’s not being used! WTF

这解释了为什么自从我更新到最新版本后,我的手机在不使用时就会发消息说手机过热!草

colasmulo
The article states that Apple found bugs with specific apps and a specific ios 17 problem that can be fixed to reduce overheating without reducing performance.
At least that's the theory, probably worth to wait a few days before doing the upxe to see benchmarks.

报道中说,苹果发现了特定应用程序的bug以及可能导致过热的iOS 17问题,这些问题可以通过修复来减少过热问题,而不会降低性能。至少理论上是这样,更新前等几天看看基准测试。

dr34mc4st3r
Everyone is just replying something based on their own hate for Apple instead of actually reading the article

每个人都只是基于自己对苹果的仇恨来回复,而不是实际阅读文章

Jay-Kane123
I hate Apple for good reason

我有充分理由讨厌苹果。

ZER0_F0CKS
I just got my iPhone 15 pro. It is significantly hotter than my old iphone. It feels like an electric hand heater in my pocket. I’m using the quad lock mag case.

我刚买了iPhone 15 pro,明显比我的旧手机更热。在口袋里感觉像个电手暖宝。我用的是Quad Lock磁性手机壳。

thinkfirstyo
These comments are basically: Apple is a greedy company and the iPhone 15 should be fixed without sacrificing performance… Apple’s greed is bad …
I’m going to keep buying their products year after year.

这些评论基本上都是:苹果是贪婪的公司,iPhone 15应该在不牺牲性能的情况下得到修复......苹果的贪婪是不好的......
我会年复一年的继续买他们的产品。

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bananabananacat
Can confirm, got one today and it’s been running really hot all day, despite usual fixes. Needing an upxe asap…

可以证实。,我今天买了一部,一整天运行都非常热,尽管尝试了常用的解决办法。迫切需要尽快更新。.

zomgtehvikings
Guess that MagSafe thermal pad/fan combo from Razer is about to see a massive spike in sales.

我猜雷蛇的MagSafe散热背夹/风扇组合即将迎来巨大销量增长。

Iintl
The issue is not with heating up, as any device will hear up during intense use. The issue is with the iPhones absolute lack of cooling or heat-spreading hardware, causing the heat to be concentrated around the SoC instead if being evenly distributed throughout the device.
This not only severely hampers the maximum sustained power of the SoC (4.2W for recent iphones instead of the 5-6W of Android phones), but also results in insanely hot hotspots like the 48C spot mentioned.

问题不在于发热,任何设备在高强度使用时都会发热。问题在于iPhone完全没有相应的散热硬件,导致热量集中在芯片组周围,而不是均匀分布在整个设备上。这不仅严重制约了系统芯片的最大持续功率(最新的iPhone为4.2W,而Android手机为5-6W),还导致如文中提到的48度这样的离谱的发热点。
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JollyRoger8X
Unless there's a massive bug causing the issue
Apple has literally stated publicly that software bugs are the cause and that there won't be any reduction in performance from the fix. Public statements from corporations carry legal weight. Apple's not going to lie about this.

除非有大的导致问题的bug,苹果已经公开声明软件bug导致了过热,修复不会降低性能。企业的公开声明具有法律效力。苹果不会在这件事上说谎。
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DarkMatter_contract
Wait could a iphone water cool dock be a thing that sold

等等,iPhone水冷散热器会大卖吗?

ede91
There is absolutely no need to introduce water into this. Get a carbon thermal pad, a small tower cooler, place it so that it is pressed against the back of the phone at the hotspot when docked, and slap two fans on it.

完全没有用水冷的必要。用碳导热垫、一个小塔式散热器,贴近手机背部的高温处,然后在上面安两个风扇就可以了。

MaxProude
Nothing new. I have to test performance on mobile devices all the time. All iphones start with amazing performance and slow down to 1/4 of its original performance after a couple of minutes. After the thermal state 'critical' is reached, it turns down screen brightness and in the worst case scenario, the app will be closed.

没什么新鲜的。我一直在测试移动设备的性能。所有iPhone起初性能都很好,但在几分钟后会下降到原来性能的1/4。在达到“严重”发热后,它会降低屏幕亮度,最糟糕的情况下,应用程序会被关闭。

Acalthu
Why is this surprising lol. Some Android gaming phones come with built in active cooling because of this.

为什么这会让人惊讶,哈哈。一些安卓游戏手机内置主动散热功能,就是因为这个原因。

Draiko
Because Apple spent an assload of money to buy up all of TSMC's 3nm production capacity only to end up with a phone that seems to turn into a jittery hotplate when playing demanding games.

因为苹果花了大量资金抢购了台积电所有的3nm产能,结果却弄出了一款在玩对性能要求较高的游戏时会变成不稳定的加热器手机。

CoastingUphill
Apple is about to release their $300 active cooled titanium case.

苹果会推出他们300美元的主动散热钛合金手机壳。

michaelb1
I’ll just connect a bluetooth controller, connect the phone to my monitor with the USB C port and put the phone in a bucket of ice.

我只需要连接一个蓝牙控制器,用USB C口连接手机和我的显示器,然后把手机放在一个冰桶里。
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LacusClyne
It's annoying how hot phones get these days, I like to take time lapses on my pixel and after 20mins the camera gets too hot to function.

现在手机发热真让人烦,我喜欢在我的谷歌Pixel手机上拍延时摄影,但20分钟后,摄像头就太热以至于无法工作了。

Cyber-Cafe
That is very, very warm. My 13pro gets almost too hot if I’m gaming and streaming the game to twitch at the same time. I shudder to think how hot it’d get if I streamed and played resi remake at the same time.

这真的非常热,如果我玩游戏的同时用Twitch直播,我的iPhone 13pro就会变得非常热。我不敢想象如果我一边直播一边玩“生化危机”重置版会有多热。

HowerTwo
Shouldn’t they test this BEFORE putting it up for sell?So what I’m seeing is a job vacancy in Apple. Your only job is to fuck the phone up with heavy usage.

他们不应该在销售前测试一下吗?所以我看到苹果公司有一个职位空缺,工作的唯一内容就是大量使用,把手机干趴窝。
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gyakya
It's a heater, not a bug

这是个加热器,不是bug

mx1701
Who still plays games on their phone.....?

还有谁在手机上玩游戏啊。

-Animal_
Good thing no one actually uses it for gaming!

好在实际上没人真的用它玩游戏!

0b5cur3d
So far in 2023 Apple is the 3rd largest gaming company in the world, Sony 2nd and Tencent is first.

到目前为止,2023年苹果是世界第三大游戏公司,索尼第二,腾讯第一。

TSMKFail
According to Blizzard, everyone.

根据暴雪说法,每个人都用手机玩游戏。

ImnTheGreat
Mobile gaming is bigger in India and China, but I agree it’s a weird thing to market so heavily because I rarely see people actually using their phones first serious gaming

手机游戏在印度和中国更流行,但我同意这是一个很奇怪的营销点,因为我很少看到人们真的首选手机来认真的玩游戏。

x_Carlos_Danger_x
Seeee there is plenty of new features in this iPhone. Like space heater mode

看,这个iPhone有很多新功能,比如取暖器模式。

xPandamon
No surprise, the A16 was overheating and throttling aswell. So the new chip with 3nm really is just awful it seems, minimal performance increase, no real efficiency increase, still hot..

不足为奇,A16也过热并降频了。所以3nm制程的新芯片真的很差,性能提升微乎其微,效率没有真正提高,依然发热。

Roflewaffle47
I'm surprised, honestly. The 14 pro max dealt with heat very effectively in high intensity and high fps games. I guess this chip is running a bit too much for the thermal design then.

我很惊讶,老实说。14 pro max在高强度和高帧率游戏中散热非常出色。我猜这个芯片的运行有点超过散热设计的负荷了。

iceleel
At least your iHands won't be cold during winter

至少在冬天你的手不会冷了

philburg2
Underclocks for all!

全部降频!
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SatanLifeProTips
Soon iPhone 15’/ will perform almost as well as iPhone 14’s.

很快iPhone 15’就会和iPhone 14’的性能表现差不多好了。

JayBird1138
Iphone 14 is also going to get an upxe to slow it down, so 15 looks better

iPhone 14也会有更新来降低速度,这样让15看起来更好

That-Contract-5952
iPhone 14's will perform as well as iPhone 13's then

那么iPhone 14的性能就会和iPhone 13一样了。

Noddie
Both my 3rd party Weather App and Pokemon GO has been draining my phone like crazy every night unless I force close them before bed. There’s definitely something going on

如果我不在睡前强制关闭我的第三方天气应用和宝可梦,它们每天晚上都会疯狂耗电,肯定有问题。

lisaroo3
New iOS probably caused some issues too.

新的iOS可能也导致了一些问题。

ILiterallyCantWithU
Exactly. They'll just nerf the processor to cool it down. Only so much you can do via a software upxe

没错。他们会降低处理器频率来降温。软件更新只能做这么多

d1ckpunch68
they specifically said in the article, which i'm assuming you didn't read, that the upxe would not affect performance.

文章中明确说了,我猜你没有读,更新不会影响性能。

luckysevensampson
I’ve had mine for two days. It’s gotten really warm twice. The first time was when it was installing all of my apps, and I got the warning that charging would resume when it cooled down. Then, last night, I plugged it in and read in bed for a while, and it was noticeably quite warm, but not enough to stop charging.

我用了两天。它明显发热了两次。第一次是在安装我所有的应用程序时,我收到警告说会在冷却后恢复充电。然后,昨晚,我插上充电线在床上看了一会儿,它明显相当热,但没有热到停止充电的程度。

Lucas_Steinwalker
Have you tried making a long phone call with it? 30 10 mins in and the phone is too hot to hold.

你试过用它长时间打电话吗?30分钟后,手机热到无法用手拿着。

GigglesMcLean
Yeah mine hasn't overheated once since I got it a couple weeks ago. Probably manufacturing problem more than software, but I don't know shit.

自从我几周前买了它,还从未过热过。可能更多是制造问题而不是软件问题,但我不懂这些。

GigglesMcLean
Sounds like more of a software optimization issue than it is anything hardware in that case. I'm not really doing anything different than what I did with my 11 Pro and it's worked fine for me.

在这种情况下,这听起来更像是软件优化问题,而不是硬件问题。我的操作与在11 Pro上没有什么不同,它一直运行正常。

Brunonen
The fact that despite being the most profitable company on the planet, the spent not nearly as much in R&D as others?

事实是,尽管苹果是全球最赚钱的公司,但他们在研发上的投入远不如其他公司。

195cm
Are people actually reading the article?

有人真的在读这篇文章吗?

TrippySubie
No, everyone in this subreddit has to scream how much they hate apple products regardless of any information presented to them.

没有,这个板块的每个人都要大喊他们多么讨厌苹果产品,无论给他们看什么信息。

_RADIANTSUN_
No it's just a stupid cope that is launched as a last resort for when Apple is doing something shitty, wherein you forsake even the idea that anyone should criticize them at all.
Just a silly attempt to change the subject every time, that's all.

不,当苹果瞎胡搞时,这就是个愚蠢的应对措施,你甚至放弃了人们应该批评他们的想法。每次都是愚蠢的想改变话题,仅此而已。

souvlaki_
It only happens on a sext apps so yeah, there's a massive bug.
I love hating on apple as much as everyone, but every commenter who is complaining about throttling the CPU has clearly no knowledge on computer tech and should stop commenting.

这只发生在特定的应用程序中,所以是的,肯定有大bug。我和所有人一样喜欢痛骂苹果,但每个抱怨CPU会被降频的评论者显然都不懂计算机技术,应该停止评论。

mikerfx
They will cap the cpu speeds via software upxe, which defeats the purpose of getting the latest and fastest Apple silicon A17 chip.

他们会通过软件更新限制CPU速度,这与用上最新最快的苹果A17芯片的目的相矛盾。

shadow_of
lol, so they will tell developers to use more efficient code so to not tax th CPU in the interim. then they might even put some OS software implementation that reduces the apps scheduled time. technically they arent reducing performance of the CPU, but they are indeed reducing performance because of their design flaw. but fear not, the apple apologists will keep telling us to read the article and believe tim apple.

哈哈,所以他们会告诉开发者使用更高效的代码来减少CPU负载。然后他们可能会在操作系统中实现某些功能,来减少应用计划时间。从技术上讲,他们没有降低CPU性能,但由于他们的设计缺陷,的确降低了手机性能。但不要担心,苹果的辩护者会继续告诉我们读文章并相信库克。

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