针对英国“残酷”收入门槛签证规定的法律行动正在计划之中
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(The UK home secretary, James Cleverly, said the measure was designed to ‘crack down on those who try to jump the queue and exploit our immigration system’.)
（英国内政大臣詹姆斯·克莱维利表示，该措施旨在“打击那些试图插队并钻我们移民体系空子的人”。）
新闻：
Legal action planned over UK’s ‘cruel’ income threshold visa rules
- Thousands of families with one British partner and one from abroad will be hit by £38,700 salary requirement
针对英国“残酷”收入门槛签证规定的法律行动正在计划之中
- Thousands of families with one British partner and one from abroad will be hit by £38,700 salary requirement
针对英国“残酷”收入门槛签证规定的法律行动正在计划之中
(The UK home secretary, James Cleverly, said the measure was designed to ‘crack down on those who try to jump the queue and exploit our immigration system’.)
（英国内政大臣詹姆斯·克莱维利表示，该措施旨在“打击那些试图插队并钻我们移民体系空子的人”。）
新闻：
Multinational families threatened with division or exile by tough new income thresholds for living together in the UK are planning legal action to overturn the “cruel and inhumane” policy.
由于在英国共同生活的严格的新收入门槛，跨国家庭面临分裂或流亡的威胁，他们正计划采取法律行动，推翻这项“残忍和不人道”的政策。
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由于在英国共同生活的严格的新收入门槛，跨国家庭面临分裂或流亡的威胁，他们正计划采取法律行动，推翻这项“残忍和不人道”的政策。
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Thousands of families with one British partner and one born abroad will be hit by the government’s announcement that from next spring, only people earning £38,700 will be allowed to bring family members to join them – up from £18,600. Many may be forced either to live separately or to leave Britain to be together.
英国政府宣布，从明年春天开始，只有年收入3.87万英镑的人才可以带家人来英国——原先标准为1.86万英镑。许多人可能被迫分开生活，或者必须离开英国才能一起生活。
英国政府宣布，从明年春天开始，只有年收入3.87万英镑的人才可以带家人来英国——原先标准为1.86万英镑。许多人可能被迫分开生活，或者必须离开英国才能一起生活。
Reunite Families, a support and campaign organisation for people affected by immigration rules, has instructed the law firm Leigh Day to explore legal avenues to challenge the changes announced on 4 December by the home secretary, James Cleverly, that amount to being “punished for falling in love”, according to one family affected.
“家庭团聚”是一个为受移民法规影响的人们提供支持和活动的组织，该组织已指示Leigh Day律师事务所探索法律途径，挑战内政大臣詹姆斯·克莱弗利于12月4日宣布的这一改革，根据一个受影响的家庭的说法，这相当于“因坠入爱河而受到惩罚”。
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“家庭团聚”是一个为受移民法规影响的人们提供支持和活动的组织，该组织已指示Leigh Day律师事务所探索法律途径，挑战内政大臣詹姆斯·克莱弗利于12月4日宣布的这一改革，根据一个受影响的家庭的说法，这相当于“因坠入爱河而受到惩罚”。
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Hundreds of people whose lives could be turned upside down by the new rules have contacted the Guardian warning that they will have to leave the UK if they want to stay with their foreign partners. Many work in sectors with severe worker shortages, such as care and social work.
数百名生活可能因新规定而发生天翻地覆的人联系了《卫报》，警告他们如果想和外国伴侣待在一起，就必须离开英国。许多人在工人严重短缺的部门工作，比如护理和社会工作。
数百名生活可能因新规定而发生天翻地覆的人联系了《卫报》，警告他们如果想和外国伴侣待在一起，就必须离开英国。许多人在工人严重短缺的部门工作，比如护理和社会工作。
One care worker, 50, said the rule was “ruining our plans for a happy future”; an academic, 35, said: “These new rules terrify me”; a marketing manager said: “Separating families is an atrocity”; and a music teacher, 35, facing a move to Kazakhstan, said they felt the comfort they had worked for “slipping away”.
一位50岁的护工说，这条规定“破坏了我们对幸福未来的计划”；一位35岁的学者说：“这些新规定吓到我了。”一位营销经理说：“拆散家庭是一种暴行”；还有一名35岁的音乐老师，即将搬到哈萨克斯坦，她说，他们感到自己为之奋斗的舒适感正在“溜走”。
一位50岁的护工说，这条规定“破坏了我们对幸福未来的计划”；一位35岁的学者说：“这些新规定吓到我了。”一位营销经理说：“拆散家庭是一种暴行”；还有一名35岁的音乐老师，即将搬到哈萨克斯坦，她说，他们感到自己为之奋斗的舒适感正在“溜走”。
An administrator at the University of Cambridge said she and her partner from Morocco were being kept apart by the existing salary threshold and were experiencing age-related fertility problems, meaning “this whole system has basically cost us the chance to have our own family”.
剑桥大学的一位行政人员说，她和她来自摩洛哥的伴侣被现有的工资门槛分开了，并且经历了与年龄相关的生育问题，这意味着“整个体系基本上让我们失去了组建自己家庭的机会”。
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剑桥大学的一位行政人员说，她和她来自摩洛哥的伴侣被现有的工资门槛分开了，并且经历了与年龄相关的生育问题，这意味着“整个体系基本上让我们失去了组建自己家庭的机会”。
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The measure was announced as part of what Cleverly called a “crackdown on those who try to jump the queue and exploit our immigration system”.
这项措施是克莱弗利所说的“打击那些试图插队并钻我们移民体系空子的人”的一部分。
这项措施是克莱弗利所说的“打击那些试图插队并钻我们移民体系空子的人”的一部分。
Grounds for a legal challenge could include the government’s handling of impact assessments of the rule change, questioning how the new £38,700 income minimum has been reached, or whether the change interferes with the right to family life under the 70-year-old European convention of human rights, which the UK helped draft and remains bound by.
提出法律挑战的理由可能包括：政府对规则变化影响评估的处理方式，质疑新的3.87万英镑最低收入标准是如何得出的，或者这一变化是否干扰了已有70年历史的《欧洲人权公约》所规定的家庭生活权利——英国参与了该公约的起草，目前仍受到该公约的约束。
提出法律挑战的理由可能包括：政府对规则变化影响评估的处理方式，质疑新的3.87万英镑最低收入标准是如何得出的，或者这一变化是否干扰了已有70年历史的《欧洲人权公约》所规定的家庭生活权利——英国参与了该公约的起草，目前仍受到该公约的约束。
“I have never seen our community so galvanized and upset,” said Caroline Coombs, the co-founder and chief executive of Reunite Families, who said the threshold was a “horrendous shock for tens of thousands of British citizens and their loved ones … To declare it just before Christmas and leave people with no details is just utterly cruel.”
“家庭团聚”联合创始人兼首席执行官卡罗琳·库姆斯说：“我从未见过我们的社区如此受刺激和不安。”她说，这个门槛“对成千上万的英国公民和他们的亲人来说是一个可怕的打击……在圣诞节前夕宣布这一决定，却不给人们提供任何细节，这真是太残忍了。”
“家庭团聚”联合创始人兼首席执行官卡罗琳·库姆斯说：“我从未见过我们的社区如此受刺激和不安。”她说，这个门槛“对成千上万的英国公民和他们的亲人来说是一个可怕的打击……在圣诞节前夕宣布这一决定，却不给人们提供任何细节，这真是太残忍了。”
Meanwhile, new analysis shows the doubling of the threshold means most people in large parts of the UK will no longer earn enough to live with a partner from abroad, creating a new north-south divide. Three-quarters of people can afford to bring a loved one from abroad, but under the new threshold, more than 60% will not be able to afford it, rising to 75% in the north-east of England.
与此同时，新的分析显示，门槛提高一倍意味着，英国大部分地区的大多数人将不再有足够的收入能与来自国外的伴侣生活在一起，从而形成新的南北鸿沟。以前四分之三的人能负担得起把亲人从国外接回来，但在新的门槛下，超过60%的人将负担不起，在英格兰东北部，这一比例上升到75%。
与此同时，新的分析显示，门槛提高一倍意味着，英国大部分地区的大多数人将不再有足够的收入能与来自国外的伴侣生活在一起，从而形成新的南北鸿沟。以前四分之三的人能负担得起把亲人从国外接回来，但在新的门槛下，超过60%的人将负担不起，在英格兰东北部，这一比例上升到75%。
People in the north-east, Yorkshire and the Humber, the north-west, east Midlands, Wales and Northern Ireland will be worst affected and the south-east will be least affected.
东北部、约克郡和亨伯、西北部、中部东部、威尔士和北爱尔兰的人们将受到最严重的影响，东南部受影响最小。
东北部、约克郡和亨伯、西北部、中部东部、威尔士和北爱尔兰的人们将受到最严重的影响，东南部受影响最小。
“We have instructed the law firm, Leigh Day, to advise us on potential legal avenues,” Reunite Families said. “Given the absolute lack of information currently provided on the policy, we want further detail from the home secretary on the policy as a first step.”
“我们已经委托律师事务所Leigh Day就可能的法律途径向我们提供建议，”“家庭团聚”说。“鉴于目前有关该政策的信息绝对缺乏，第一步，我们希望内政大臣就该政策提供更多细节。”
“我们已经委托律师事务所Leigh Day就可能的法律途径向我们提供建议，”“家庭团聚”说。“鉴于目前有关该政策的信息绝对缺乏，第一步，我们希望内政大臣就该政策提供更多细节。”
The government has left open the possibility that even families already living together in the UK under the existing rules could be split up or have to move abroad if they do not meet the new criteria when their visa comes up for renewal. The Home Office said it “will confirm more details in due course”.
英国政府保留了这样一种可能性——即使是根据现有规定已经在英国生活在一起的家庭，如果他们在签证续签时不符合新标准，也可能被拆散或不得不移居国外。英国内政部表示，“将在适当时候确认更多细节”。
英国政府保留了这样一种可能性——即使是根据现有规定已经在英国生活在一起的家庭，如果他们在签证续签时不符合新标准，也可能被拆散或不得不移居国外。英国内政部表示，“将在适当时候确认更多细节”。
But Coombs said: “They need answers now – not next week or next year. For children all over the country, this is an exciting time to spend with Mummy and Daddy and it’s just heartbreaking to know that so many caught up in this will not get the chance to be with one of them now or possibly ever.”
但库姆斯说：“他们现在就需要答案，而不是下周或明年。对于全国各地的孩子来说，这是一个与爸爸妈妈共度的激动人心的时刻，但知道这么多人现在或可能永远没有机会与他们中的一个在一起，真是令人心碎。”
但库姆斯说：“他们现在就需要答案，而不是下周或明年。对于全国各地的孩子来说，这是一个与爸爸妈妈共度的激动人心的时刻，但知道这么多人现在或可能永远没有机会与他们中的一个在一起，真是令人心碎。”
Cleverly indicated this week that the new rules should be “forward-looking rather than backward”, suggesting multinational families already in the UK earning less than the salary threshold could yet be safe.
新规定本周巧妙地表示自己应该是“前瞻性的，而不是落后的”，暗示已经在英国收入低于工资门槛的跨国家庭仍可能是安全的。
新规定本周巧妙地表示自己应该是“前瞻性的，而不是落后的”，暗示已经在英国收入低于工资门槛的跨国家庭仍可能是安全的。
The supreme court has previously pushed back against the government’s visa rules. In February 2017, it required changes to the way the existing minimum income rule was enforced because the government had a duty to “safeguard and promote the welfare of children”.
最高法院此前曾反对过政府的签证规定。2017年2月，它要求改变现有最低收入规定的执行方式，因为政府有责任“保护和促进儿童的福利”。
最高法院此前曾反对过政府的签证规定。2017年2月，它要求改变现有最低收入规定的执行方式，因为政府有责任“保护和促进儿童的福利”。
In cases where an applicant for a family visa fails to meet the income threshold, decision-makers were instructed to consider “exceptional circumstances”, which might mean refusal breached the right to family life under the European convention on human rights.
在家庭签证申请人未能达到收入门槛的情况下，决策者被指示考虑“特殊情况”，这可能意味着拒绝违反了《欧洲人权公约》规定的家庭生活权利。
在家庭签证申请人未能达到收入门槛的情况下，决策者被指示考虑“特殊情况”，这可能意味着拒绝违反了《欧洲人权公约》规定的家庭生活权利。
Opposition to the threshold change has ranged from the archbishop of Canterbury, Justin Welby, who told the House of Lords he was concerned at the “negative impact this will have on married and family relationships”, to Labour’s shadow home secretary, Yvette Cooper, who said the new rules could lead to a “big increase in rushed marriages” in the months before they take effect.
从坎特伯雷大主教贾斯汀·韦尔比到工党影子内政大臣伊维特·库珀，反对这一门槛变化的人很多，坎特伯雷大主教告诉上议院，他担心“这将对婚姻和家庭关系产生负面影响”，而库珀表示，新规定可能会导致在新规定生效前几个月“匆忙结婚的人数大幅增加”。
从坎特伯雷大主教贾斯汀·韦尔比到工党影子内政大臣伊维特·库珀，反对这一门槛变化的人很多，坎特伯雷大主教告诉上议院，他担心“这将对婚姻和家庭关系产生负面影响”，而库珀表示，新规定可能会导致在新规定生效前几个月“匆忙结婚的人数大幅增加”。
The relationship support charity Relate told the Guardian that a rush to cement relationships because of the looming increase in the income threshold carried risks.
情感支持慈善机构“关联”告诉《卫报》，因为收入门槛即将提高而急于巩固关系是有风险的。
情感支持慈善机构“关联”告诉《卫报》，因为收入门槛即将提高而急于巩固关系是有风险的。
“Rushing into a long-term relationship before you feel ready can be quite traumatising and can prove very difficult, especially when there is pressure on,” said Ammanda Major, the head of service quality and clinical practice. “[When] one partner is saying, ‘We need to get married to do this,’ it’s easy to get swept along with it … You can become a bit blind in the rush.”
服务质量和临床实践主管阿曼达·梅杰说：“在你还没有准备好之前就仓促地开始一段长期关系，可能会给你带来很大的创伤，而且可能会非常困难，尤其是在有压力的情况下。（当）一方说，‘我们需要结婚来做解决它’时，很容易被它冲昏头脑……你可能会在匆忙中变得有点盲目。”
服务质量和临床实践主管阿曼达·梅杰说：“在你还没有准备好之前就仓促地开始一段长期关系，可能会给你带来很大的创伤，而且可能会非常困难，尤其是在有压力的情况下。（当）一方说，‘我们需要结婚来做解决它’时，很容易被它冲昏头脑……你可能会在匆忙中变得有点盲目。”
The Home Office has said the higher salary threshold is needed so that family members from abroad joining British citizens “are not burdening the state”. It said families can be exempt in “exceptional circumstances where there would be unjustifiably harsh consequences for the applicant, their partner, a relevant child, or another family member if their application were to be refused”.
英国内政部表示，提高工资门槛是必要的，这样一来，加入英国国籍的海外家庭成员“就不会给国家带来负担”。内政部表示，在“特殊情况下——如果他们的申请被拒绝会对申请人、他们的伴侣、相关的孩子或其他家庭成员造成不合理的严重后果”，那么这个家庭可以豁免。
英国内政部表示，提高工资门槛是必要的，这样一来，加入英国国籍的海外家庭成员“就不会给国家带来负担”。内政部表示，在“特殊情况下——如果他们的申请被拒绝会对申请人、他们的伴侣、相关的孩子或其他家庭成员造成不合理的严重后果”，那么这个家庭可以豁免。
“The prime minister has made clear that current levels of migration to the UK are far too high,” a Home Office spokesperson said. “We have a longstanding principle that anyone bringing dependents to live in the UK must be able to financially support them. The minimum income requirement ensures that families are self-sufficient instead of relying on public funds, with the ability to integrate if they are to play a full part in British life.”
英国内政部发言人表示：“首相已经明确表示，目前英国的移民水平太高了。我们有一个长期的原则，即任何将家属带到英国生活的人都必须能够在经济上支持他们。最低收入要求确保家庭自给自足，而不是依赖公共资金，并拥有让他们想在英国生活中充分发挥作用而融入社会的能力。”
英国内政部发言人表示：“首相已经明确表示，目前英国的移民水平太高了。我们有一个长期的原则，即任何将家属带到英国生活的人都必须能够在经济上支持他们。最低收入要求确保家庭自给自足，而不是依赖公共资金，并拥有让他们想在英国生活中充分发挥作用而融入社会的能力。”
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A few misconceptions I've seen floating around I think should be cleared up
1、The British individual needs to make £38,700 by themselves, their partner's salary overseas doesn't count
2、The partner needs to pay thousands of pounds to the Home Office to move here, to fund the NHS and to process the application. Basically tax up front
3、The partner has no access to public funds like Universal Credit for at least 5 years.
4、If they want to bring children in, the salary requirement is higher and the amount paid to the Home Office is also higher.
5、If the couple have a child here, they are British citizens because one of their parents is British. They are entitled to education/childcare/healthcare as much as you do. Their "cost to the state" doesn't count towards the partner's "cost to the state" in the same way that your "cost to the state" doesn't count towards your parent's.
我认为应该澄清一些我所见过的误解
1、这个英国人需要自己挣38700英镑，他们海外伴侣的工资不算在内
2、伴侣需要向英国内政部支付数千英镑才能搬到这里，用以为国家医疗体系提供资金并处理申请。基本上就是先缴税
3、伴侣至少5年内不能获得通用信贷等公共资金
4、如果他们想带孩子来英国，工资要求会更高，付给内政部的金额也会更高
5、如果这对夫妇在英国有了孩子，孩子是英国公民，因为他们的父母中有一人是英国人。他们和你一样有权享受教育、儿童保育和医疗保健。他们的“国家成本”不计入伴侣的“国家成本”，就像你的“国家成本”不计入你父母的“国家成本”一样。
A few misconceptions I've seen floating around I think should be cleared up
1、The British individual needs to make £38,700 by themselves, their partner's salary overseas doesn't count
2、The partner needs to pay thousands of pounds to the Home Office to move here, to fund the NHS and to process the application. Basically tax up front
3、The partner has no access to public funds like Universal Credit for at least 5 years.
4、If they want to bring children in, the salary requirement is higher and the amount paid to the Home Office is also higher.
5、If the couple have a child here, they are British citizens because one of their parents is British. They are entitled to education/childcare/healthcare as much as you do. Their "cost to the state" doesn't count towards the partner's "cost to the state" in the same way that your "cost to the state" doesn't count towards your parent's.
我认为应该澄清一些我所见过的误解
1、这个英国人需要自己挣38700英镑，他们海外伴侣的工资不算在内
2、伴侣需要向英国内政部支付数千英镑才能搬到这里，用以为国家医疗体系提供资金并处理申请。基本上就是先缴税
3、伴侣至少5年内不能获得通用信贷等公共资金
4、如果他们想带孩子来英国，工资要求会更高，付给内政部的金额也会更高
5、如果这对夫妇在英国有了孩子，孩子是英国公民，因为他们的父母中有一人是英国人。他们和你一样有权享受教育、儿童保育和医疗保健。他们的“国家成本”不计入伴侣的“国家成本”，就像你的“国家成本”不计入你父母的“国家成本”一样。
DigPsychological7128
I dont think many people know that the UK was ranked as one of the worst contries for family visa rules, even before this. If this becomes the rule, it will be the only country with such cruel strict rules.
For example; Canada, Australia, Germany, France and many other countries dont even have a financial requirement. The US has it set around £20K and the whole household income counts, so you can take your parents income, for example for the requirement.
我想很多人都不知道，甚至在此之前，英国就被列为家庭签证规定最垃圾的国家之一。如果这真成为规定，那它将是唯一一个有如此残酷严格规定的国家。
比如：加拿大、澳大利亚、德国、法国和许多其他国家甚至没有移民财务要求。美国的标准是2万英镑左右，且整个家庭的收入都计算在内，所以你可以依靠父母的收入。
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I dont think many people know that the UK was ranked as one of the worst contries for family visa rules, even before this. If this becomes the rule, it will be the only country with such cruel strict rules.
For example; Canada, Australia, Germany, France and many other countries dont even have a financial requirement. The US has it set around £20K and the whole household income counts, so you can take your parents income, for example for the requirement.
我想很多人都不知道，甚至在此之前，英国就被列为家庭签证规定最垃圾的国家之一。如果这真成为规定，那它将是唯一一个有如此残酷严格规定的国家。
比如：加拿大、澳大利亚、德国、法国和许多其他国家甚至没有移民财务要求。美国的标准是2万英镑左右，且整个家庭的收入都计算在内，所以你可以依靠父母的收入。
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little_red_bus
Me and my partner are choosing the US. Visa fees are below $1000 for a 5 year green card, and combined we will net $300,000 a year, when here we can barely hope to scrape past £100,000. Also because she’s NHS we don’t even have a choice because she can’t sponsor me anyways.
我和我的伴侣选择了美国。5年绿卡的签证费低于1000美元，我们加起来每年净赚30万美元，而在这里，我们只能勉强勉强挣到10万英镑。而且因为她是国家医疗体系的人，我们甚至没有选择，因为她无论如何都无法在经济上支持我。
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Me and my partner are choosing the US. Visa fees are below $1000 for a 5 year green card, and combined we will net $300,000 a year, when here we can barely hope to scrape past £100,000. Also because she’s NHS we don’t even have a choice because she can’t sponsor me anyways.
我和我的伴侣选择了美国。5年绿卡的签证费低于1000美元，我们加起来每年净赚30万美元，而在这里，我们只能勉强勉强挣到10万英镑。而且因为她是国家医疗体系的人，我们甚至没有选择，因为她无论如何都无法在经济上支持我。
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I_ALWAYS_UPVOTE_CATS
Personally, I have no issue with demanding a minimum income threshold before allowing someone to bring a dependent into the country. The bigger issue for me is that the median salary in the UK is less than the stated amount, which means that the government is essentially admitting that most UK wages are below what it considers the minimum level required to support just one dependent.
在我个人看来，在允许某人带一个受抚养人进入这个国家之前，要求一个最低收入门槛是没有问题的。在我看来，更大的问题在于，英国的工资中位数低于这个新规定的数额，这意味着政府基本上承认，大多数英国人的工资低于它所认为的供养一个受抚养人所需的最低水平。
Personally, I have no issue with demanding a minimum income threshold before allowing someone to bring a dependent into the country. The bigger issue for me is that the median salary in the UK is less than the stated amount, which means that the government is essentially admitting that most UK wages are below what it considers the minimum level required to support just one dependent.
在我个人看来，在允许某人带一个受抚养人进入这个国家之前，要求一个最低收入门槛是没有问题的。在我看来，更大的问题在于，英国的工资中位数低于这个新规定的数额，这意味着政府基本上承认，大多数英国人的工资低于它所认为的供养一个受抚养人所需的最低水平。
jenn4u2luv
This is the real problem that needed to be addressed first before any extreme salary requirement.
I agree that after a decade of no upxe on the minimum, it needs to be raised. But not to this level where it’s not even up to par with the median.
这才是一个真正的问题，需要在任何极端的工资门槛之前首先加以解决。
我同意，在十年没有更新最低限额之后，它需要提高。但还不应该达到这个甚至英国收入中位数都达不到的水平。
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This is the real problem that needed to be addressed first before any extreme salary requirement.
I agree that after a decade of no upxe on the minimum, it needs to be raised. But not to this level where it’s not even up to par with the median.
这才是一个真正的问题，需要在任何极端的工资门槛之前首先加以解决。
我同意，在十年没有更新最低限额之后，它需要提高。但还不应该达到这个甚至英国收入中位数都达不到的水平。
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KeyCryptographer8475
This policy doesn't effect the Tories rich friends only average earners who fall in love and marry someone from another country. How about they make all work visas have to match the same amount, that would have more of an impact on immigration. Around 75 percent of workers do not earn this amount
这一政策对保守党的富人朋友没有影响，只对那些爱上并与另一个国家的人结婚的普通收入者有影响。如果他们要求所有的工作签证都达到相同的门槛，那将对移民产生更大的影响。大约75%的工人挣不到这个数目
This policy doesn't effect the Tories rich friends only average earners who fall in love and marry someone from another country. How about they make all work visas have to match the same amount, that would have more of an impact on immigration. Around 75 percent of workers do not earn this amount
这一政策对保守党的富人朋友没有影响，只对那些爱上并与另一个国家的人结婚的普通收入者有影响。如果他们要求所有的工作签证都达到相同的门槛，那将对移民产生更大的影响。大约75%的工人挣不到这个数目
spacemarineVIII
Why are we punishing working individuals?
People who join the UK and contribute to taxation are not the problem.
The real issue is the benefit scrounging population in the UK.
我们为什么要惩罚工作的人？
加入英国并缴纳税款的人不是问题所在。
真正的问题是英国吃福利的人口。
Why are we punishing working individuals?
People who join the UK and contribute to taxation are not the problem.
The real issue is the benefit scrounging population in the UK.
我们为什么要惩罚工作的人？
加入英国并缴纳税款的人不是问题所在。
真正的问题是英国吃福利的人口。
iamezekiel1_14
Just throwing this out there - would this have been an issue if they'd gone half way on the threshold to 28K year 1, 33K year 2, the 38K threshold year 3? I wouldn't see that as unreasonable?
我先提一下，如果（改成）第1年28000，第2年33000，第3年38000，不行吗？我不认为这有什么不合理？
Just throwing this out there - would this have been an issue if they'd gone half way on the threshold to 28K year 1, 33K year 2, the 38K threshold year 3? I wouldn't see that as unreasonable?
我先提一下，如果（改成）第1年28000，第2年33000，第3年38000，不行吗？我不认为这有什么不合理？
CheezTips
Only 25% of people make that much now, how will it change in 3 years? Will farmers and teachers and drivers magically make that much 3 years from now?
现在只有25%的人能赚到这么多钱，3年后会发生什么变化？3年后，农民、教师和司机能神奇地赚到这么多钱吗？
Only 25% of people make that much now, how will it change in 3 years? Will farmers and teachers and drivers magically make that much 3 years from now?
现在只有25%的人能赚到这么多钱，3年后会发生什么变化？3年后，农民、教师和司机能神奇地赚到这么多钱吗？
Prior_Worldliness287
Cruel? Why is it cruel to have a threshold for visa giving? It's designed to make sure imigration is of net benifit not net take.
残忍吗？为什么给签证设置门槛就是残忍的？这是旨在确保移民带来的是净收益，而不是净负担。
Cruel? Why is it cruel to have a threshold for visa giving? It's designed to make sure imigration is of net benifit not net take.
残忍吗？为什么给签证设置门槛就是残忍的？这是旨在确保移民带来的是净收益，而不是净负担。
GroktheFnords
It's cruel to tell someone that they can't live with their spouse unless they're earning more than the majority of workers. It's sociopathic to argue that it's okay to split up families like this just to potentially save a bit of money.
告诉某人，除非他们的收入比大多数工人高，否则他们不能和配偶住在一起——这是残忍的。认为只是为了潜在地节省一点钱就能这样拆散家庭，这种想法是反社会的。
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It's cruel to tell someone that they can't live with their spouse unless they're earning more than the majority of workers. It's sociopathic to argue that it's okay to split up families like this just to potentially save a bit of money.
告诉某人，除非他们的收入比大多数工人高，否则他们不能和配偶住在一起——这是残忍的。认为只是为了潜在地节省一点钱就能这样拆散家庭，这种想法是反社会的。
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ElvishMystical
This is white supremacist nonsense, pure and simple. The Government get away with it because this country is full of white supremacists and small-minded bigots.
这纯粹是白人至上主义者搞出来的扯淡。政府没有受到惩罚，因为这个国家充满了白人至上主义者和心胸狭窄的偏执狂。
This is white supremacist nonsense, pure and simple. The Government get away with it because this country is full of white supremacists and small-minded bigots.
这纯粹是白人至上主义者搞出来的扯淡。政府没有受到惩罚，因为这个国家充满了白人至上主义者和心胸狭窄的偏执狂。
BlondBitch91Greater London
The UK is aiming to be the very worst. And yet you will still get people like Nigel Farage and Suella Braverman screaming that we are a soft touch.
My partner is Chinese. We are in a gay relationship which China doesn’t recognise.
I earn more than £39k but honestly we are considering moving to Ireland or America because we will be treated with more dignity than the Home Office under this Conservative Government will ever allow.
You really are made to feel like the lowest form of life for having dared to fall in love with someone who isn’t a member of the British master race.
英国的目标是成为最糟糕的（移民国家）。但你仍然会听到奈杰尔·法拉奇和苏拉·布雷弗曼这样的人尖叫，说我们是软蛋。
我的伴侣是中国人。我们是在中国不被认可的同性恋。
我的收入超过3.9万英镑，但老实说，我们正在考虑搬到爱尔兰或美国，因为在那里我们会得到比保守党政府所允许的内政部更有尊严的待遇。
（在英国）如果你敢爱上一个不是英国优等种族的人，真的会让你觉得自己是最低等的生命体。
The UK is aiming to be the very worst. And yet you will still get people like Nigel Farage and Suella Braverman screaming that we are a soft touch.
My partner is Chinese. We are in a gay relationship which China doesn’t recognise.
I earn more than £39k but honestly we are considering moving to Ireland or America because we will be treated with more dignity than the Home Office under this Conservative Government will ever allow.
You really are made to feel like the lowest form of life for having dared to fall in love with someone who isn’t a member of the British master race.
英国的目标是成为最糟糕的（移民国家）。但你仍然会听到奈杰尔·法拉奇和苏拉·布雷弗曼这样的人尖叫，说我们是软蛋。
我的伴侣是中国人。我们是在中国不被认可的同性恋。
我的收入超过3.9万英镑，但老实说，我们正在考虑搬到爱尔兰或美国，因为在那里我们会得到比保守党政府所允许的内政部更有尊严的待遇。
（在英国）如果你敢爱上一个不是英国优等种族的人，真的会让你觉得自己是最低等的生命体。
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