阻止非法移民进入美国的最好方法是什么?
正文翻译
What is best way to stop illegal immigration to the US?
阻止非法移民进入美国的最好方法是什么?
What is best way to stop illegal immigration to the US?
阻止非法移民进入美国的最好方法是什么?
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Scott Welch
Europe does stop illegal immigrants, by making it difficult for them to work.
The USA, by contrast, is filled with millions of individuals and corporations who love hiring undocumented workers. Therefore illegal immigrants are encouraged to both come to and stay in the USA.
Too bad the USA has so many people who keep paying illegal immigrants.
欧洲确实通过让非法移民难以工作来阻止他们。
相比之下，美国充满了数以百万计的个人和公司，他们喜欢雇佣无证工人。因此，非法移民被鼓励来美国并留在美国。
太糟糕了，美国有这么多人一直在给非法移民支付报酬 。
Europe does stop illegal immigrants, by making it difficult for them to work.
The USA, by contrast, is filled with millions of individuals and corporations who love hiring undocumented workers. Therefore illegal immigrants are encouraged to both come to and stay in the USA.
Too bad the USA has so many people who keep paying illegal immigrants.
欧洲确实通过让非法移民难以工作来阻止他们。
相比之下，美国充满了数以百万计的个人和公司，他们喜欢雇佣无证工人。因此，非法移民被鼓励来美国并留在美国。
太糟糕了，美国有这么多人一直在给非法移民支付报酬 。
Daniel Irwin
We could reduce it to a trickle, but there are too many on the Liberal Left using illegal immigration as a political bargaining chip.
They want power, and will use illegals, even if it destroys the very foundations of the nations they claim to care for.
我们可以把它减少到很小的规模，但自由左派中有太多的人把非法移民作为政治谈判的筹码。
他们想要权力，并将利用非法移民——尽管这会摧毁他们声称关心的国家的基础。
We could reduce it to a trickle, but there are too many on the Liberal Left using illegal immigration as a political bargaining chip.
They want power, and will use illegals, even if it destroys the very foundations of the nations they claim to care for.
我们可以把它减少到很小的规模，但自由左派中有太多的人把非法移民作为政治谈判的筹码。
他们想要权力，并将利用非法移民——尽管这会摧毁他们声称关心的国家的基础。
Alberic Mahawan
Americans keep hiring them. Anyone from rich Democrats and Republicans hire them. So do small businesses. Expand the guest worker program and allow those who pay taxes without using any welfare programs to fast track into getting a green card.
Punish those who knowingly hire illegal immigrants. Most illegals come here for jobs. If few hire them, they will be fewer in numbers.
美国人一直在雇佣他们。任何来自富有的民主党人和共和党人的人都会雇佣他们。小企业也是如此。扩大客工计划，允许那些不使用任何福利项目而纳税的人快速获得绿卡。
惩罚那些故意雇佣非法移民的人。大多数非法移民来这里找工作，如果很少有人雇佣他们，他们的数量就会减少。
Americans keep hiring them. Anyone from rich Democrats and Republicans hire them. So do small businesses. Expand the guest worker program and allow those who pay taxes without using any welfare programs to fast track into getting a green card.
Punish those who knowingly hire illegal immigrants. Most illegals come here for jobs. If few hire them, they will be fewer in numbers.
美国人一直在雇佣他们。任何来自富有的民主党人和共和党人的人都会雇佣他们。小企业也是如此。扩大客工计划，允许那些不使用任何福利项目而纳税的人快速获得绿卡。
惩罚那些故意雇佣非法移民的人。大多数非法移民来这里找工作，如果很少有人雇佣他们，他们的数量就会减少。
Ron Wike
cuz they don’t want to. north korea, haiti’s neighbors, china, russia etc and many many other countries in the world have no problem as they use walls, guns, barbed wire, etc to protect their borders.
因为他们不想这么做。朝鲜、海地的邻国、中国、俄罗斯等，以及世界上许多其他国家都没有这方面的问题，因为他们用墙、枪、铁丝网等来防御他们的边界。
cuz they don’t want to. north korea, haiti’s neighbors, china, russia etc and many many other countries in the world have no problem as they use walls, guns, barbed wire, etc to protect their borders.
因为他们不想这么做。朝鲜、海地的邻国、中国、俄罗斯等，以及世界上许多其他国家都没有这方面的问题，因为他们用墙、枪、铁丝网等来防御他们的边界。
Andrew Crawford
Much the same reason we can't fully stop theft, assault, speeding, fraud, and other forms of crime - where there's a will, there's a way.
同样的原因，我们不能完全阻止盗窃、袭击、超速、欺诈和其他形式的犯罪——有志者事竟成。
Much the same reason we can't fully stop theft, assault, speeding, fraud, and other forms of crime - where there's a will, there's a way.
同样的原因，我们不能完全阻止盗窃、袭击、超速、欺诈和其他形式的犯罪——有志者事竟成。
Robin Haywood
No country can.
It's a sort of compliment really.
They don't try and illegally enter failing countries.
It's true that many might cross the Southern border of the USA, in spite of the latters quite repulsive racism, but these people have no other option and, as improbable as it might seem to those of us in deeply entrenched civilisation on the Eastern Atlantic seaboard the USA is their great dream.
Poor bastards.
How much trouble does the USA have with it's northern border?
Might just as well open it, but Canada won't, and you all really do know why.
没有哪个国家可以。
这其实是一种赞美。
他们不会试图非法进入失败的国家。
许多人可能会越过美国南部边境，尽管后者的种族主义相当令人反感，但这些人没有其他选择，而美国是他们伟大的梦想——尽管对我们这些生活在大西洋东部沿海根深蒂固的文明中的人来说，这似乎是不可能的。
可怜的家伙
美国北部边境有多麻烦？
不妨打开它，但加拿大不会，你们都知道为什么。
No country can.
It's a sort of compliment really.
They don't try and illegally enter failing countries.
It's true that many might cross the Southern border of the USA, in spite of the latters quite repulsive racism, but these people have no other option and, as improbable as it might seem to those of us in deeply entrenched civilisation on the Eastern Atlantic seaboard the USA is their great dream.
Poor bastards.
How much trouble does the USA have with it's northern border?
Might just as well open it, but Canada won't, and you all really do know why.
没有哪个国家可以。
这其实是一种赞美。
他们不会试图非法进入失败的国家。
许多人可能会越过美国南部边境，尽管后者的种族主义相当令人反感，但这些人没有其他选择，而美国是他们伟大的梦想——尽管对我们这些生活在大西洋东部沿海根深蒂固的文明中的人来说，这似乎是不可能的。
可怜的家伙
美国北部边境有多麻烦？
不妨打开它，但加拿大不会，你们都知道为什么。
Linda Frost
This is happening in our country. Look at California with its thousands upon thousands of illegal immigrants. The state supports them in many ways, costing the legitimate, taxpaying residents a great deal of money. Their service levels are declining, costing them more for less. All the social institutions suffer—healthcare, schools, housing, food supplies, welfare payments, infrastructure. All have less money to do more, but more doesn’t get done.
This is also true in Europe. Cultural clashes and disregard for customs and even the law have caused huge problems, particularly for women who are being abused by an influx of men with no regard for women’s rights. Sexual abuse has been a problem in Germany, for instance, and the state is doing little but covering it up.
这种情况正在我们国家发生。看看加利福尼亚州成千上万的非法移民。国家在很多方面支持他们，让合法的、纳税的居民付出了巨大的代价。他们的服务水平正在下降，付出越来越少。医疗、学校、住房、食品供应、福利金和基础设施等所有的社会机构都受到了影响。更少的钱要完成更多的事情，但更多的事情没法完成。
在欧洲也是如此。文化冲突和对习俗甚至法律的无视造成了巨大的问题，特别是对妇女来说，她们受到大量涌入的不顾妇女权利的男子的虐待。例如，在德国，性侵犯一直是一个问题，而政府除了掩盖它之外什么也没做。
This is happening in our country. Look at California with its thousands upon thousands of illegal immigrants. The state supports them in many ways, costing the legitimate, taxpaying residents a great deal of money. Their service levels are declining, costing them more for less. All the social institutions suffer—healthcare, schools, housing, food supplies, welfare payments, infrastructure. All have less money to do more, but more doesn’t get done.
This is also true in Europe. Cultural clashes and disregard for customs and even the law have caused huge problems, particularly for women who are being abused by an influx of men with no regard for women’s rights. Sexual abuse has been a problem in Germany, for instance, and the state is doing little but covering it up.
这种情况正在我们国家发生。看看加利福尼亚州成千上万的非法移民。国家在很多方面支持他们，让合法的、纳税的居民付出了巨大的代价。他们的服务水平正在下降，付出越来越少。医疗、学校、住房、食品供应、福利金和基础设施等所有的社会机构都受到了影响。更少的钱要完成更多的事情，但更多的事情没法完成。
在欧洲也是如此。文化冲突和对习俗甚至法律的无视造成了巨大的问题，特别是对妇女来说，她们受到大量涌入的不顾妇女权利的男子的虐待。例如，在德国，性侵犯一直是一个问题，而政府除了掩盖它之外什么也没做。
In our country, illegal immigrants are breaking laws and endangering citizens. Many notable cases in the past few years have drawn attention to illegal criminal aliens who murder, rape, and kill people in drunk driving accidents.
Politically, the left wing climate is being fostered to get rid of conservative views toward law and order. They agitate for more illegal immigration and more access by illegals to sacrosanct rights guaranteed to American citizens by the Constitution. There are even moves in California to get illegal immigrants the right to be appointed to government commissions. There are more appointed government officials than there are elected ones. This turns our government over to people who are not citizens and have no rights as citizens, yet will control our government in a short period of time if this happens. Some places allow non citizens to vote for school boards and the local government officials in their communities allready.
在我国，非法移民正在违法并危害公民。过去几年中，许多引人注目的案件都引起了人们对犯罪的非法移民的外国人的关注，他们在酒后驾驶事故中谋杀、强奸和杀人。
在政治上，为了摆脱对法律和秩序的保守观点，左翼气氛正在滋长，他们鼓动更多的非法移民，让非法移民更多地获得宪法保障的美国公民神圣不可侵犯的权利。加利福尼亚州甚至采取行动，让非法移民有权被任命为政府委员会成员，任命的政府官员比选举产生的官员多。这将我们的政府移交给非公民和没有公民权利的人，但如果发生这种情况，他们将在短时间内控制我们的政府。一些地方已经允许非公民投票选举学校董事会和当地社区的政府官员。
Politically, the left wing climate is being fostered to get rid of conservative views toward law and order. They agitate for more illegal immigration and more access by illegals to sacrosanct rights guaranteed to American citizens by the Constitution. There are even moves in California to get illegal immigrants the right to be appointed to government commissions. There are more appointed government officials than there are elected ones. This turns our government over to people who are not citizens and have no rights as citizens, yet will control our government in a short period of time if this happens. Some places allow non citizens to vote for school boards and the local government officials in their communities allready.
在我国，非法移民正在违法并危害公民。过去几年中，许多引人注目的案件都引起了人们对犯罪的非法移民的外国人的关注，他们在酒后驾驶事故中谋杀、强奸和杀人。
在政治上，为了摆脱对法律和秩序的保守观点，左翼气氛正在滋长，他们鼓动更多的非法移民，让非法移民更多地获得宪法保障的美国公民神圣不可侵犯的权利。加利福尼亚州甚至采取行动，让非法移民有权被任命为政府委员会成员，任命的政府官员比选举产生的官员多。这将我们的政府移交给非公民和没有公民权利的人，但如果发生这种情况，他们将在短时间内控制我们的政府。一些地方已经允许非公民投票选举学校董事会和当地社区的政府官员。
Md
Political and media corruption pure and simple. ILLEGAL Aliens cause nothing but more poverty crime and violence. They do this because they do not respect our laws because we don't respect our own laws! Many don't assimilate because they don't want to, they are here to take not to give.
纯粹是政治和媒体腐败。非法外国人只会导致更多的贫困、犯罪和暴力。他们这样做是因为他们不尊重我们的法律，因为我们自己也不尊重自己的法律！许多人不融入社会是因为他们不想融入社会，他们来这里是为了索取而不是给予。
Political and media corruption pure and simple. ILLEGAL Aliens cause nothing but more poverty crime and violence. They do this because they do not respect our laws because we don't respect our own laws! Many don't assimilate because they don't want to, they are here to take not to give.
纯粹是政治和媒体腐败。非法外国人只会导致更多的贫困、犯罪和暴力。他们这样做是因为他们不尊重我们的法律，因为我们自己也不尊重自己的法律！许多人不融入社会是因为他们不想融入社会，他们来这里是为了索取而不是给予。
William Weir
Stopping legal immigration into the US. Most illegal immigrants come here legally then overstay their visas. So ban air travel into the US and lock everyone in like they did in East Berlin and you can prevent illegal immigration.
Another good option is to just keep electing Republicans. They’re doing their best to make living here unbearable. A decade of complete Republican control and the only people trying to get in here would be missionaries offering humanitarian aid.
停止合法移民进入美国。大多数非法移民最初是合法来到这里，然后超期滞留签证。所以禁止飞往美国的航班，像他们在东柏林做的那样把每个人都锁起来，你就可以防止非法移民。
另一个好选择是继续选举共和党人。他们想尽办法让这里的生活变得难以忍受。共和党完全控制了十年，唯一想进入这里的人是提供人道主义援助的传教士。
Stopping legal immigration into the US. Most illegal immigrants come here legally then overstay their visas. So ban air travel into the US and lock everyone in like they did in East Berlin and you can prevent illegal immigration.
Another good option is to just keep electing Republicans. They’re doing their best to make living here unbearable. A decade of complete Republican control and the only people trying to get in here would be missionaries offering humanitarian aid.
停止合法移民进入美国。大多数非法移民最初是合法来到这里，然后超期滞留签证。所以禁止飞往美国的航班，像他们在东柏林做的那样把每个人都锁起来，你就可以防止非法移民。
另一个好选择是继续选举共和党人。他们想尽办法让这里的生活变得难以忍受。共和党完全控制了十年，唯一想进入这里的人是提供人道主义援助的传教士。
Chris Kaufmann
There are a lot of answers already, but I have not read all 93 (and counting), so I will list mine:
Impose significant legal penalties on any and all employers of illegal aliens. I mean draconian penalties: huge fines for a first offence, jail time increasing in length for subsequent offences.
This is actually the most reasonable solution. The illegal aliens are no longer incentivized to relocate illegally, because no one will employ them.
The employers, or those that would otherwise take advantage of these unfortunates have disincentives to profit off of a near-slave labour force.
This also generates more responsibility on behalf of sponsors to legal immigrants.
已经有很多回答了，但我还没有读完全部93个回答(还在增加)，所以我将列出我的答案:
对任何和所有雇用非法外国人的雇主施加重大的法律处罚。我指的是严厉的惩罚:第一次犯罪就会被处以巨额罚款，再次犯罪被判入狱的时间会越来越长。
这实际上是最合理的解决方案。非法移民不再被鼓励非法迁移，因为没有人会雇用他们。
雇主们，或者那些想利用这些不幸的人的人，都没有动力从近乎奴隶的劳动力中获利。
这也为合法移民的担保人带来了更多的责任。
There are a lot of answers already, but I have not read all 93 (and counting), so I will list mine:
Impose significant legal penalties on any and all employers of illegal aliens. I mean draconian penalties: huge fines for a first offence, jail time increasing in length for subsequent offences.
This is actually the most reasonable solution. The illegal aliens are no longer incentivized to relocate illegally, because no one will employ them.
The employers, or those that would otherwise take advantage of these unfortunates have disincentives to profit off of a near-slave labour force.
This also generates more responsibility on behalf of sponsors to legal immigrants.
已经有很多回答了，但我还没有读完全部93个回答(还在增加)，所以我将列出我的答案:
对任何和所有雇用非法外国人的雇主施加重大的法律处罚。我指的是严厉的惩罚:第一次犯罪就会被处以巨额罚款，再次犯罪被判入狱的时间会越来越长。
这实际上是最合理的解决方案。非法移民不再被鼓励非法迁移，因为没有人会雇用他们。
雇主们，或者那些想利用这些不幸的人的人，都没有动力从近乎奴隶的劳动力中获利。
这也为合法移民的担保人带来了更多的责任。
This is what we do in Canada. I am an employer of over 400 people. There is absolutely no way that I would hire illegals to work for me. The day their temporary work permits expire, their employment is terminated without prejudice. They can be rehired once they have the proper work permissions.
The United States struggles with illegal migration because there is significant incentives for the illegals to enter, and there is a significant number of Americans that economically benefit from being able to pay for labour at a gigantic discount.
This solution, while it will not solve all the issues, will have a significant enough impact to buy country time to legislate comprehensive immigration reform, and may also have a positive benefit to wages for low skilled labour that is often currently depressed due to the availability of illegal labour and lack of repercussions for employing them.
这就是我们在加拿大所做的。我雇佣了400多名员工。我绝对不可能会雇佣非法移民为我工作。临时工作许可证到期之日，其雇佣关系终止，不受任何损害，一旦他们获得适当的工作许可，他们就可以被重新雇用。
美国之所以努力应对非法移民问题，是因为非法移民进入美国有很大的动机，而且有相当多的美国人能够以极低的价格支付劳动力的报酬，从而在经济上受益。
这一解决办法虽然不能解决所有问题，但将产生足够大的影响，为国家争取时间制定全面的移民改革立法，并可能对低技能劳动力的工资产生积极的影响，由于非法劳动力的可用性和雇用他们缺乏后果，目前低技能劳动力的工资往往很低。
The United States struggles with illegal migration because there is significant incentives for the illegals to enter, and there is a significant number of Americans that economically benefit from being able to pay for labour at a gigantic discount.
This solution, while it will not solve all the issues, will have a significant enough impact to buy country time to legislate comprehensive immigration reform, and may also have a positive benefit to wages for low skilled labour that is often currently depressed due to the availability of illegal labour and lack of repercussions for employing them.
这就是我们在加拿大所做的。我雇佣了400多名员工。我绝对不可能会雇佣非法移民为我工作。临时工作许可证到期之日，其雇佣关系终止，不受任何损害，一旦他们获得适当的工作许可，他们就可以被重新雇用。
美国之所以努力应对非法移民问题，是因为非法移民进入美国有很大的动机，而且有相当多的美国人能够以极低的价格支付劳动力的报酬，从而在经济上受益。
这一解决办法虽然不能解决所有问题，但将产生足够大的影响，为国家争取时间制定全面的移民改革立法，并可能对低技能劳动力的工资产生积极的影响，由于非法劳动力的可用性和雇用他们缺乏后果，目前低技能劳动力的工资往往很低。
Allen Rogers
Actually, 90%+ of this whole illegal alien invasion problem is fairly easy to solve.
1st - We need a NATIONAL E-Verify law which makes it mandatory for EVERY person who applies for ANY job or ANY benefit to be cleared through this great program run by the SSA.
2nd - There must also be strict and harsh penalties (including at least some jail time and loss of the business license) for those dishonest people who provide a job or benefit to an illegal alien without using E-Verify.
With no jobs and no government 'freebies', the vast majority of illegal aliens will simply pack up and self deport. This is what was happening in Arizona
Just think of the MILLIONS of jobs which will open up when all the illegal aliens leave the country.
事实上，90%以上的非法外国人入侵问题很容易解决。
第一，我们需要一项全国性的电子验证法，强制要求每个申请工作或福利的人通过社会保障总署运行的这个重要程序获得批准。
第二，对于那些没有使用E-Verify而为非法移民提供工作或福利的不诚实的人，也必须有严格和严厉的惩罚(至少包括一些监禁和吊销营业执照)。
由于没有工作，也没有政府的“免费赠品”，绝大多数非法外国人只会收拾行李打包走人。这就是亚利桑那州发生的事情
想想看，当所有非法移民离开这个国家时，将会有无数个工作机会。
Actually, 90%+ of this whole illegal alien invasion problem is fairly easy to solve.
1st - We need a NATIONAL E-Verify law which makes it mandatory for EVERY person who applies for ANY job or ANY benefit to be cleared through this great program run by the SSA.
2nd - There must also be strict and harsh penalties (including at least some jail time and loss of the business license) for those dishonest people who provide a job or benefit to an illegal alien without using E-Verify.
With no jobs and no government 'freebies', the vast majority of illegal aliens will simply pack up and self deport. This is what was happening in Arizona
Just think of the MILLIONS of jobs which will open up when all the illegal aliens leave the country.
事实上，90%以上的非法外国人入侵问题很容易解决。
第一，我们需要一项全国性的电子验证法，强制要求每个申请工作或福利的人通过社会保障总署运行的这个重要程序获得批准。
第二，对于那些没有使用E-Verify而为非法移民提供工作或福利的不诚实的人，也必须有严格和严厉的惩罚(至少包括一些监禁和吊销营业执照)。
由于没有工作，也没有政府的“免费赠品”，绝大多数非法外国人只会收拾行李打包走人。这就是亚利桑那州发生的事情
想想看，当所有非法移民离开这个国家时，将会有无数个工作机会。
3rd - The next focus should be on those criminals who lie to the federal government about not being able to find 'qualified' IT people and apply for H-1B Visas for foreign workers who they hire at about 1/2 the current wages of the people who are ALREADY working - and who are FORCED to train their replacements. Disney, Siemens, the State of Calif Dept of Vehicles are some of the Dishonest employers. Whoever filed those FALSE H-1B Visa applications should be prosecuted and JAILED. Now, there might be a rare time when a company really can't find a qualified US citizen or already legal immigrant to fill a job. In ALL of those rare cases, the employer must agree to pay the H-1B Visa holder 150-200% of the average wage for that type of work. Guess how many H-1B Visa holders would be needed when the corrupt dishonest companies actually have to PAY a 'real' wage for those CRITICAL positions - HMM??
第三，下一个重点应该是那些对联邦政府撒谎说找不到“合格的”IT人员，并为外国工人申请H-1B签证的罪犯，他们雇佣的外国工人的工资大约是现有工作人员的一半，而且他们被迫培训他们的替代者。迪士尼、西门子、加州车辆管理局都是一些不诚实的雇主。提交虚假H-1B签证申请的人应该被起诉并收监。现在，可能偶尔会有公司真的找不到合格的美国公民或已经合法的移民来填补一个职位。在所有这些罕见的情况下，雇主必须同意支付H-1B签证持有者该类型工作平均工资的150-200%。当腐败不诚实的公司实际上必须为这些关键职位支付“实际”工资时，猜猜看需要多少H-1B签证持有者？
第三，下一个重点应该是那些对联邦政府撒谎说找不到“合格的”IT人员，并为外国工人申请H-1B签证的罪犯，他们雇佣的外国工人的工资大约是现有工作人员的一半，而且他们被迫培训他们的替代者。迪士尼、西门子、加州车辆管理局都是一些不诚实的雇主。提交虚假H-1B签证申请的人应该被起诉并收监。现在，可能偶尔会有公司真的找不到合格的美国公民或已经合法的移民来填补一个职位。在所有这些罕见的情况下，雇主必须同意支付H-1B签证持有者该类型工作平均工资的150-200%。当腐败不诚实的公司实际上必须为这些关键职位支付“实际”工资时，猜猜看需要多少H-1B签证持有者？
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