MH370航班消失了10年,此后发生了什么?(1)
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MH370航班消失了10年,此后发生了什么?

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10 years on, are we any closer to knowing what happened to MH370? For a decade, scientists, investigators and journalists have dug deep into the mystery of how Malaysian Airlines flight MH370 vanished on March 8, 2014. But many questions remain unanswered.
Meanwhile, family members of the missing passengers are calling for the resumption of search. They’re also seeking civil compensation from Malaysian Airlines, aircraft manufacturer Boeing, engine maker Rolls-Royce and insurance group Allianz, over the loss of their loved ones.

10年过去了,我们是否更接近了解MH370航班的下落?十年来,科学家、调查人员和记者一直在深入探究马来西亚航空公司MH370航班如何在2014年3月8日消失之谜,但许多问题仍然没有答案。
与此同时,失踪乘客的家属呼吁恢复搜寻。他们还在向马来西亚航空公司、飞机制造商波音公司、发动机制造商罗罗公司和保险集团安联寻求民事赔偿以弥补失去亲人(的痛苦)。

@userdev666
"Knowing someone personally" is the most absurd excuse to defend the pilot. That's the dumbest reason to say on tv because you don't know someone 100%. Even family members kill each other at the heat of the moment.

"了解某人"是为飞行员辩护的最荒谬的借口,这是在电视上说的最愚蠢的理由,因为你并不是百分之百地了解一个人,即使是家人也会在情急之下自相残杀。
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@pierzing.glint1sh76
Not really, its important information if you know someone personally u still know much more than the rest of who are basing our judgments of the pilot as a person without even having met the guy and most cases hearing about him from other people who would have their own narrative and also wouldn't have met him.
And don't act like people don't let people off if they've got a good prior record it happens in every industry in every nation I dont think u shud be mad just coz ppl defend an experienced pilot with an impeccable safety record and clearly was a nice bloke by all accounts.
Its ofcourse completely possible maybe even likely that zahari is responsible but nobody knows what actually happened without the flight recorder.

其实不然,如果你认识某人,你就会比其他人了解更多重要的信息,因为其他人甚至没有见过他,大多数情况下是从其他人那里听说他的,而其他人会有自己的说法,而且也可能没有见过他。
我认为你不应该生气,因为人们会为一名经验丰富、安全记录无懈可击的飞行员辩护,而且从各方面来看,他显然是个好人。
当然,扎哈里完全有可能甚至很有可能应该对此负责,但没有飞行记录仪,谁也不知道到底发生了什么。

@userdev666
I am not mad, I'm just looking at it obxtively. Let's toss a coin and say the pilot might have deliberately crashed the plane OR he was held at gunpoint to do something he doesn't want to. It has to be one way or another, right? But evidence suggests that probability is more to pilot's deliberate action bec they uncover a flight simulation in his house doing of a similar path. That's my argument right there ️

我没有生气,我只是客观地看待这个问题。让我们抛一枚硬币,说飞行员可能是故意坠机,或者是被人用枪指着做了他不想做的事,肯定是这样或那样,不是吗?但有证据表明飞行员故意坠机的可能性更大,因为他们在他家发现了一个模拟飞行器,其飞行轨迹与之相似。这就是我的论点。

@pierzing.glint1sh76
@userdev666 i dont disagree with you, its probrably the pilot.
But there it's important to know and any police officer or investigator knows this, that family and friends are important as people who have first hand experience of what the person was like and what they might and might not do. It's just evidence, which still needs to be taken into account.
If you're caught at the scene of the crime and i know you're a nice person and I know you first hand. I am likely to consider all the evidence and be open to other possibilities instead of reflexively banging u up in jail.
This is an important part of the process of crime investigation. We don't indict people on coin tosses even if the conclusion you've reached is most likely correct at the current moment and at our current level of understanding.

@userdev666 我不反对你的观点,因为可能是飞行员的问题。
但重要的是要知道,所有警官或调查员都知道家人和朋友是重要的,因为他们有第一手经验,知道这个人是什么样的人,知道他们可能会做什么,也可能不会做什么。这只是仍需加以考虑的证据。
如果你在犯罪现场被抓,而我知道你是个好人,我对你有第一手的了解,那么我可能会考虑所有证据并对其他可能性持开放态度,而不是条件反射地把你送进监狱。
这是犯罪调查过程中的一个重要环节。即使你得出的结论在当前时刻和我们目前的理解水平下很可能是正确的,我们也不会通过抛硬币来起诉人。

@petertimowreef9085
I agree friend, what people who knew them thought about a person should hold absolutely zero judicial value in court. "But they were such a sweet person" bullshit you don't know that, people wear masks all the time.

我同意,认识他们的人对一个人的看法在法庭上的司法价值绝对为零。"但他们是那么可爱的一个人..."这类屁话你又不知道,毕竟人们总是戴着面具的。

@pierzing.glint1sh76
@petertimowreef9085 you take what they say as part of a much bigger picture. Nobody is saying he's nice he couldn't have done it. But the fact that he was nice and had all this training and impecceble record and a good life was respected, didn't really have a motive that we can discover, does suggest that, really alot more information is needed before it can be conclusively pinned on him.
You and I might believe strongly that he did it, but without a flight data recorder, our conclusions ALSO wouldnt stand up in a court of law. I'm no lawyer but I can see that without fdr crucial piece of evidence it would be relatively easy to argue that he didn't do it. OR at least that he wasn't SOLELY responsible that there was something else going on that we just don't know.
Hope this uncertainty is enough motivation for them to continue the search!

@petertimowreef9085 你应该把他们说的话看作是更大的图景的一部分。事实是他是个好人,受过良好的训练,有无懈可击的记录,过着受人尊敬的美好生活,却没有我们所能发现的真正动机,这确实表明在最终把责任归咎于他之前,确实还需要更多的信息。
你我都可能坚信是他干的,但如果没有飞行数据记录仪,我们的结论在法庭上也是站不住脚的。虽然我不是律师,但我可以看出如果没有飞行数据记录仪这一关键证据,要证明不是他干的相对容易。或者至少他不是唯一的责任人,因为还有其他我们不知道的事情。
希望这种不确定性足以促使他们继续搜寻!

@petertimowreef9085
@pierzing.glint1sh76 The best I can do is to agree to disagree my friend. All those things you mentioned: being nice, his training, impeccable record, good life that was respected and no motive. It's all just circumstantial evidence, none of it can explain how MH370 reached the Indian Ocean without anyone noticing.

@pierzing.glint1sh76 我所能做的就是同意不同意,我的朋友。你提到的所有事情:为人和善、训练有素、无懈可击的记录、受人尊重的美好生活以及没有动机,这些都只是间接证据,都无法解释MH370是如何神不知鬼不觉地到达印度洋的。

@dan-bz7dz
@petertimowreef9085 Motive is to die and get compensation for his family. But you don't need a motive when the evidence is this overwhelming. People didn't notice because he chose to deviate exactly where he did, and then fly the airplane over the border of two countries so it would not alx the respective air forces.

@petertimowreef9085 他的动机是寻死,为家人争取赔偿。当证据如此具有压倒性时,你就不需要动机了。人们之所以没有注意到是因为他选择了准确的偏离位置,然后将飞机飞越两国边界,这样就不会惊动各自的空军了。

@pierzing.glint1sh76
@petertimowreef9085 you're right, but it forms part of the picture I'm sure u agree that the flight data recorder is the most important part of the evidence and hopefully they'll find that

@petertimowreef9085 你是对的,但它只构成了整个图景的一部分。我相信你也同意飞行数据记录器是证据中最重要的部分,希望他们能找到它。

@petertimowreef9085
Every single piece of MH370 debris we did find was somewhere in the Indian Ocean, most of it on the east coast of Africa. There is simply no way in hell that a modern civil airliner flies from the Gulf of Thailand to the Indian Ocean without any of a thousand systems noticing. Except if the one controlling that airliner knows precisely what they're doing.

我们发现的每一块MH370残骸都在印度洋的某处,其中大部分在非洲东海岸。一架现代民航客机从泰国湾飞往印度洋而不被上千个系统发现,这根本不可能。除非控制客机的人非常清楚自己在做什么。

@user-lv7ph7hs7l
Surprisingly large holes in the coverage and ordinarily the aircraft would be happily broadcasting it's own position. So it's not that hard once the transponder is off and you do have some knowledge but basically stay away from the coast. After MH370 the coverage is much better now, so it would be harder today.

令人惊讶的是监控的覆盖范围中存在很大的漏洞,而通常情况下,飞机会很乐意广播自己的位置。因此,一旦应答器关闭,这并不难,而且你确实掌握了一些知识,但基本上要远离海岸。马航MH370事件后,现在的覆盖范围要好得多,所以现在(想不被发现)会更难。

@NightShade1161
My heart was absolutely breaking for that poor gentleman who believes his child could be alive and may come back!! Forgive me if I was misinterpreting what he was saying, but the likelihood is so small as to not even be negligible it absolutely breaks my heart. I am deeply saddened for every single one of these families I would never give up hope either of finding that plane finding an answer!! But I don’t know if I could ever believe for 10 years that my love one, maybe still be alive and unable to get home I think that would break me!!!. I think a lot of people don’t understand, how extremely extremely difficult it is to find anything in the ocean even if you know it’s location finding it is still ridiculously hard and retrieving it is even harder it would be like looking for a pin size of a car that is lost in a haystack, the size of a continent, I wish nothing but joy, happiness and peace to all these people and that they win their settlements and go on with their lives, loving the family that they have left and remembering always those they have lost. I’m so very sorry.

我的心都要碎了,这位可怜的先生相信“他的孩子还活着,而且可能会回来!"!如果我误解了他的意思,请原谅我,但这种可能性小到甚至可以忽略不计,这绝对让我心碎。我为每一个这样的家庭深感悲痛,我也绝不会放弃找到飞机和找到答案的希望!!但我不知道自己是否能相信10年后我爱的人可能还活着却无法回家,我想那会让我崩溃!!我想很多人都不明白,要在大海里找到任何东西是多么的困难,即使你知道它的位置,找到它仍然很难,而找回它更是难上加难,这就像在干草堆里寻找丢失的针尖大小的汽车,而干草堆的大小足有一个大陆那么大。我希望所有这些人都能获得快乐、幸福和安宁,希望他们能赢得他们的和解,继续他们的生活,爱他们所留下的家人,永远记住他们所失去的人。我感到非常遗憾。

@sanyfalkenberg4986
I feel so bad for the families because how can they get closure when no one finds out the truth? It must be so hard not being able to say goodbye. I hope this puzzle will be solved one day for everyone involved

我为他们的家人感到难过,因为如果没有人发现真相,他们怎么能得到解脱呢?无法说再见的感觉一定很难受。我希望这个谜题有一天能为每个人解开。

@xihuantiyu
It is very suspicious a huge plane flying off the route and disappeared. There has been no Boeing-777 related accident in the last 10 years. The aircraft is fine. It leaves only one conclusion: MH370 was the result of someone deliberately making the flight crashed.

一架巨型飞机偏离航线失踪,疑点重重。在过去的十年中,没有发生过与波音-777相关的事故。飞机没有问题,结论只有一个:MH370是有人故意让航班坠毁的。

@jonathanwong8487
Even sometimes parents dont see their child is capable of horrendous acts. But history shows us its true in many countries with different cultural background. No one person is ever certain of another. Every one is different. No matter how hard it may sound, its still a possibility.

有时,父母甚至看不到自己的孩子有能力做出可怕的行为。但历史告诉我们,在许多具有不同文化背景的国家,情况都是如此。没有人能确定另一个人,每个人都是不同的,无论这听起来有多难以接受,它仍然是一种可能性。

@georgiesimmons5924
Without finding the black box and substantial evidence, there is no point accusing people on the plane of doing this. This was a much more complicated mission than people realize. Several documentaries did a better job of explaining this. In the meantime, the family is definitely due to deserve more compensation than what they were offered. I can't imagine being in their place. The agony in anguish, it's completely unfair what happened to those passengers. The airline didn't act quickly in time with 239 people disappearing and waiting hours to take action.

在没有找到黑匣子和大量证据的情况下,指责飞机上的人这样做是毫无意义的。这次任务比人们想象的要复杂得多,有几部纪录片对此做了较好的解释。在此期间,家属肯定应该得到比他们得到的更多的赔偿,因为我无法想象他们的处境。这些乘客所遭受的痛苦是完全不公平的。航空公司没有及时采取迅速行动,239人失踪,它们等待了数小时才采取行动。

@DrewJmsn
The people most responsible for and capable of finding the plane are also the ones who would be hurt most by its discovery. Perhaps they would be more motivated if the lawsuit sought annual payments of the full damages to those families every year until the plane is found.

对找到这架飞机负有最大责任并最有能力找到这架飞机的人,也是飞机被发现后受到伤害最大的人。如果诉讼要求每年向这些家庭支付全部赔偿金,直到找到飞机为止,也许他们会更有动力。

@mayarodriguezsrensen6904
It's the human story that convinces me beyond all doubt that we need to keep looking. It matters that so many people disappeared without a trace and we need to find out why. It's not a waste. We can learn in the process and we have a chance to find out if we actually look. You can't put a price on that. We have zero chance of finding out what happened if we stop looking.

正是人类的故事让我坚信,我们必须继续寻找。重要的是这么多人消失得无影无踪,我们需要找出原因。这不是浪费,我们可以在这个过程中学习,只要我们真正去寻找,就有机会找到答案,这是无法估量的。如果我们停止寻找,我们就没有机会知道发生了什么。
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@rogergriffin9893
It should be physically impossible for a pilot to deliberately decompress an airplane once it is airborne. Also it shouldn't be possible for them to turn off the transponder or ACARS system.

飞机在空中飞行时,飞行员不可能故意对飞机减压。此外,他们也不应该关闭应答机或ACARS系统。

@bmused55
I doubt we'll ever know exactly what happened and why. Whoever did this knew how to turn off the plane's transponder and all its communication systems. It stands to reason they'd know what circuit breakers to pull in order to turn the cockpit voice and flight data recorders off (Most, if not all pilots know which circuit breakers are on the recorder's circuit on their particular aircraft). Meaning all onboard recording of the flight would stop at the same time is disappeared from commercial radar screens that night. So even if we did find the wreckage and recover the recorders, I very highly doubt they will contain any data from after 01:20am that morning.

我怀疑我们永远不会知道到底发生了什么以及为什么。不管是谁干的,他都知道如何关闭飞机的应答器和所有通讯系统。按理说他们应该知道拉下哪些断路器才能关闭驾驶舱语音和飞行数据记录器(即使不是所有飞行员,大多数飞行员也都知道自己飞机上得记录器电路的断路器),这意味着当晚所有的机载飞行记录都会在飞机从商业雷达屏幕上消失的同时停止。因此,即使我们找到了飞机残骸并找回了记录仪,我也非常怀疑其中是否会包含当天凌晨 01:20之后的任何数据。

@andrewcharles7873
There is so many conspiracy theories regarding the disappearance of MH370. But what is more believable is that there is only one person who is in the best position on the aircraft who can perform all these necessary functions :
1. Switching off the radar transponder.
2. Performing a turnback
3. Plane flying over the Malaysian airspace during the turnback and then heading towards the Indian Ocean.
4. Someone in the cockpit of Flight 370 re-programmed the aircraft's autopilot to travel south across the Indian Ocean.
5. The flight data transmission system were turned off deliberately by someone trying to hide the plane's position and heading.
All these can only performed by one person......the pilot Captain Zaharie

关于马航MH 370的失踪存在很多阴谋论,但更可信的是只有一个人在飞机上处于最有利的位置并且能够履行所有这些必要的职能:
1. 关闭雷达应答器。
2. 执行折返。
3. 飞机在返航过程中飞越马来西亚领空,然后飞向印度洋。
4. 370航班驾驶舱内有人对飞机的自动驾驶仪进行了重新编程并使其向南穿越印度洋。
5. 有人故意关闭了飞行数据传输系统以试图隐藏飞机的位置和航向。
所有这些只能由一个人完成......,那就是扎哈里机长。

@AmpersandArts
It would be easier to find a literal needle in a literal haystack than to find this plane -- given the massive area, the depth of the ocean, the weather conditions there, etc. It's tragic that elderly and sick loved ones are refusing a settlement in hopes of discoveries that are highly unlikely to ever happen.

考虑到广阔的面积、海洋的深度、那里的天气条件等,在大海里捞针都比找到这架飞机更容易。年老多病的亲人拒绝接受赔偿金,却希望能找到极不可能找到的东西,这实在是太可悲了。

@asagoodfriend
It never crossed me, that the turn of events will bring us to this day! I thought maybe after 2-3 days we'll get the whereabouts of the plane and the concerned relatives would be notified of their situation and all will come to an end either in a good way or a bad one. But this went beyond any comprehension! :/

我从未想过事情会发展到今天这个地步!我曾经想,也许两三天后,我们就会得到飞机的下落,相关亲属也会被告知他们的情况,一切都会以或好或坏的方式结束。但现在的情况超出了我的理解范围!:/
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@Paul-H-Wolfram6608
Probably it was the Boeing plane technical or engine issues of the Malaysian Airline flight MH370 that caused it's disappearance. Boeing has a history of different safely issues on their Boeing planes including the Boeing 777-200 and especially the Boeing 737 Max series.

马来西亚航空公司MH370航班失踪的原因可能是波音飞机的技术或引擎问题。波音公司的波音飞机(包括波音777-200,特别是波音737 Max系列)存在不同安全问题的历史。

@gooner72
And lastly.......... there's absolutely no way that an onboard fire could've brought the aircraft down.
Fires aboard an aircraft are catastrophically dangerous and they generally consume the aircraft.... pretty rapidly..... before they get a chance to land.
If you Google "fires aboard an aircraft" you will find a huge list of horrific crashes with airfrxs' totally lost and number of fatalities.

最后..........,机上起火绝对不可能导致飞机坠毁。
机上起火是灾难性的危险,一般来说,飞机....,在着陆之前就会被迅速烧毁.....
如果你在谷歌上搜索"飞机起火",你会发现一大串可怕的坠机事件,包括机身完全损毁和死亡人数。

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