《霍比特人》-五军之战-精灵/矮人 VS 兽人（下）
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虽然《霍比特人》电影制作精良，但杰克逊认为他能比托尔金讲得更好，这让我感到震惊。电影《魔戒》非常出色，我也理解为什么由于故事太长而不得不删减那么多内容，但《霍比特人》本可以在三部电影中完整地讲述，而不需要在故事中添加那么多内容，因为《霍比特人》本身就是一个精彩的故事。这些电影都是粉丝小说罢了，它几乎让《霍比特人》的故事面目全非。在电影上映前，我起初很兴奋，但最终还是失望了。不过视觉效果和想象力还是很棒的。
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@larrylaurenzi1625
Only the most Brave stand their ground. Death for friends or saving your own life; when you can flee and live or fight for your friends and accept death. What will be your choice?
只有最勇敢的人才能坚守阵地。是为朋友而死，还是保全自己的性命？是逃命求生，还是为朋友而战并接受死亡。你会如何选择？
Only the most Brave stand their ground. Death for friends or saving your own life; when you can flee and live or fight for your friends and accept death. What will be your choice?
只有最勇敢的人才能坚守阵地。是为朋友而死，还是保全自己的性命？是逃命求生，还是为朋友而战并接受死亡。你会如何选择？
@caigualberto2684
Had Guillermo Del Torro pushed through in directing the Hobbit films, this battle wouldn't have materialized as he wanted to keep the original context of the book where Bilbo just slept through the battle.. having fought in WW1 , Tolkien didn't want to draw up the horrors and image of war in the Hobbit story since in context, it was really a children's book.. on another note, PJackson said he really couldn't keep the original context as it would be hard to relate that to LOTR
如果吉尔莫-德尔-托罗（Guillermo Del Torro）继续执导《霍比特人》电影，这场战斗就不会出现，因为他想保留书中比尔博在战斗中睡大觉的原貌。曾经参加过一战的托尔金不想在《霍比特人》故事中描绘战争的恐怖和形象，因为从上下文来看，这其实是一本儿童读物。
Had Guillermo Del Torro pushed through in directing the Hobbit films, this battle wouldn't have materialized as he wanted to keep the original context of the book where Bilbo just slept through the battle.. having fought in WW1 , Tolkien didn't want to draw up the horrors and image of war in the Hobbit story since in context, it was really a children's book.. on another note, PJackson said he really couldn't keep the original context as it would be hard to relate that to LOTR
如果吉尔莫-德尔-托罗（Guillermo Del Torro）继续执导《霍比特人》电影，这场战斗就不会出现，因为他想保留书中比尔博在战斗中睡大觉的原貌。曾经参加过一战的托尔金不想在《霍比特人》故事中描绘战争的恐怖和形象，因为从上下文来看，这其实是一本儿童读物。
@MistressValkress
As with everything in life it's about keeping a clear head and 'thinking' what do I do next! Slowing down our pace of life will benefit 'everyone' - so lets do it!!! Starting - tomorrow!!! Smiles - let's unify! Let's be 'one' as it should be!!! We NEED to stop fighting each other and live as one! It's TIME!!! Time to bury WAR once and for all into the history books and TIME to embrace each other!
与生活中的所有事情一样，保持清醒的头脑，"思考"下一步我该怎么做！放慢我们的生活节奏将使"每个人"都受益--所以，让我们行动起来吧！从明天开始！！微笑--让我们团结起来！让我们'合而为一'，这才是我们应该做的。我们必须停止相互争斗，团结一致！是时候了，是时候将战争彻底埋葬在历史长河中，是时候拥抱彼此了！
As with everything in life it's about keeping a clear head and 'thinking' what do I do next! Slowing down our pace of life will benefit 'everyone' - so lets do it!!! Starting - tomorrow!!! Smiles - let's unify! Let's be 'one' as it should be!!! We NEED to stop fighting each other and live as one! It's TIME!!! Time to bury WAR once and for all into the history books and TIME to embrace each other!
与生活中的所有事情一样，保持清醒的头脑，"思考"下一步我该怎么做！放慢我们的生活节奏将使"每个人"都受益--所以，让我们行动起来吧！从明天开始！！微笑--让我们团结起来！让我们'合而为一'，这才是我们应该做的。我们必须停止相互争斗，团结一致！是时候了，是时候将战争彻底埋葬在历史长河中，是时候拥抱彼此了！
@biobiobio1
As well made as the Hobbit movies were I'm astounded by Jackson thinking he could tell the story better than Tolkien. LOTR movies were so good and I understood why so much had to be cut due to the length of the story, but the Hobbit could have been told in its entirety within three movies without the umpteen additions to the story. The Hobbit is a wonderful story on its own. These movies were fanfiction and almost make the story of the Hobbit unrecognizable. I was initially excited before the movies were released but ultimately disappointed. Great visual effects and imagery though.
虽然《霍比特人》电影制作精良，但杰克逊认为他能比托尔金讲得更好，这让我感到震惊。电影《魔戒》非常出色，我也理解为什么由于故事太长而不得不删减那么多内容，但《霍比特人》本可以在三部电影中完整地讲述，而不需要在故事中添加那么多内容，因为《霍比特人》本身就是一个精彩的故事。这些电影都是粉丝小说罢了，它几乎让《霍比特人》的故事面目全非。在电影上映前，我起初很兴奋，但最终还是失望了。不过视觉效果和想象力还是很棒的。
As well made as the Hobbit movies were I'm astounded by Jackson thinking he could tell the story better than Tolkien. LOTR movies were so good and I understood why so much had to be cut due to the length of the story, but the Hobbit could have been told in its entirety within three movies without the umpteen additions to the story. The Hobbit is a wonderful story on its own. These movies were fanfiction and almost make the story of the Hobbit unrecognizable. I was initially excited before the movies were released but ultimately disappointed. Great visual effects and imagery though.
虽然《霍比特人》电影制作精良，但杰克逊认为他能比托尔金讲得更好，这让我感到震惊。电影《魔戒》非常出色，我也理解为什么由于故事太长而不得不删减那么多内容，但《霍比特人》本可以在三部电影中完整地讲述，而不需要在故事中添加那么多内容，因为《霍比特人》本身就是一个精彩的故事。这些电影都是粉丝小说罢了，它几乎让《霍比特人》的故事面目全非。在电影上映前，我起初很兴奋，但最终还是失望了。不过视觉效果和想象力还是很棒的。
@MarekDohojda
If this was in real world ( minus giants obviously ); both Dwarves and Elves would get their behind handed to them by any half way competent army. They break ranks almost immediately,. Your shield wall is only strong if order is maintain. You don't charge as mob, you advance as a unit, never breaking ranks.
Charge isn't "run as fast as you can", but it is "advance as fast as a unit can move".
Oh and wear bloody helmet!
如果这是在现实世界中（显然不包括巨人），矮人和精灵都会被任何半路出家的军队打得落花流水。因为他们几乎脱离了队伍，而只有维持秩序，你的盾墙才会坚固。你们不能像暴民一样冲锋，而是要作为一个单位前进，永远不会脱离队伍。
冲锋不是"能跑多快就跑多快"，而是"队伍能前进多快就前进多快"。
哦，还要戴上该死的头盔！
If this was in real world ( minus giants obviously ); both Dwarves and Elves would get their behind handed to them by any half way competent army. They break ranks almost immediately,. Your shield wall is only strong if order is maintain. You don't charge as mob, you advance as a unit, never breaking ranks.
Charge isn't "run as fast as you can", but it is "advance as fast as a unit can move".
Oh and wear bloody helmet!
如果这是在现实世界中（显然不包括巨人），矮人和精灵都会被任何半路出家的军队打得落花流水。因为他们几乎脱离了队伍，而只有维持秩序，你的盾墙才会坚固。你们不能像暴民一样冲锋，而是要作为一个单位前进，永远不会脱离队伍。
冲锋不是"能跑多快就跑多快"，而是"队伍能前进多快就前进多快"。
哦，还要戴上该死的头盔！
@CanPopper
I absolutely hated the part where the elves jumped over the dwarf spear wall when fighting the orcs. That was just freaking pure stupid. They would have been trapped between the dwarf spears and the orc charge.
我非常讨厌精灵与兽人战斗时跳过矮人矛墙的那一段，那简直是愚蠢至极，因为他们会被困在矮人的长矛和兽人的冲锋之间。
I absolutely hated the part where the elves jumped over the dwarf spear wall when fighting the orcs. That was just freaking pure stupid. They would have been trapped between the dwarf spears and the orc charge.
我非常讨厌精灵与兽人战斗时跳过矮人矛墙的那一段，那简直是愚蠢至极，因为他们会被困在矮人的长矛和兽人的冲锋之间。
@onemediaopticalukltd8398
Amazing AI Choreographic Battle Scene.
Western movies are now full of ridiculously DEI Black, Brown, and insufferable bitch boss actors where they don’t belong. Sad to see such beautiful Western art and culture are being gutted in a name of diversity. I enjoy movies and arts from people who represent them. Now I can no longer find this simple enjoyment.
令人惊叹的人工智能编舞战斗场面。
现在的西方电影中充斥着令人发指的黑人、棕色人种和令人难以忍受的婊子老板演员。看到如此美丽的西方艺术和文化在多样性的名义下被毁掉，我感到很难过。我喜欢电影和艺术的代表人物，但现在我再也找不到这种简单的享受了。
Amazing AI Choreographic Battle Scene.
Western movies are now full of ridiculously DEI Black, Brown, and insufferable bitch boss actors where they don’t belong. Sad to see such beautiful Western art and culture are being gutted in a name of diversity. I enjoy movies and arts from people who represent them. Now I can no longer find this simple enjoyment.
令人惊叹的人工智能编舞战斗场面。
现在的西方电影中充斥着令人发指的黑人、棕色人种和令人难以忍受的婊子老板演员。看到如此美丽的西方艺术和文化在多样性的名义下被毁掉，我感到很难过。我喜欢电影和艺术的代表人物，但现在我再也找不到这种简单的享受了。
@mehmedlohr3711
Battle like this is absolutly will happen in last days of earth, Muslims and christians will make alliance against enemy from the east, and then battle will be between Muslims and chritians, at last the earth will destroyed and everythings dies.
这样的战斗绝对会发生在地球的末日，穆斯林和基督徒将结盟对抗来自东方的敌人，然后战斗将在穆斯林和基督徒之间展开，最后地球将毁灭，万物消亡。
Battle like this is absolutly will happen in last days of earth, Muslims and christians will make alliance against enemy from the east, and then battle will be between Muslims and chritians, at last the earth will destroyed and everythings dies.
这样的战斗绝对会发生在地球的末日，穆斯林和基督徒将结盟对抗来自东方的敌人，然后战斗将在穆斯林和基督徒之间展开，最后地球将毁灭，万物消亡。
@williamterrell795
Thou I wish they did less CGI and more live acting like in the Lord of the Rings, the Hobbit was an excellent prequel to the story.
虽然我希望他们像《指环王》那样少用CGI，多用真人表演，但《霍比特人》是一部出色的故事前传。
Thou I wish they did less CGI and more live acting like in the Lord of the Rings, the Hobbit was an excellent prequel to the story.
虽然我希望他们像《指环王》那样少用CGI，多用真人表演，但《霍比特人》是一部出色的故事前传。
@lukeslc-xd8ds
Some of the greatest battles in the history of the world took place in the ancient Americas, on the North American continent, and relatively few people know of them. Entire civilizations were wiped out..............because they turned away from their God and their King.
世界历史上一些最伟大的战役发生在古代美洲，就在北美大陆上，而知道这些战役的人却相对较少。整个文明被消灭了..............，因为他们背离了他们的上帝和国王。
Some of the greatest battles in the history of the world took place in the ancient Americas, on the North American continent, and relatively few people know of them. Entire civilizations were wiped out..............because they turned away from their God and their King.
世界历史上一些最伟大的战役发生在古代美洲，就在北美大陆上，而知道这些战役的人却相对较少。整个文明被消灭了..............，因为他们背离了他们的上帝和国王。
@andreikupjanski
Idiotic jump of the elves makes me facepalm every time. A wall of shields and spears of a disciplined army is its main advantage over numerically superior barbarian horde. It is ALWAYS the main goal to hold it as long as possible, because broken formation = defeat. But who needs logic? Lets just willingly break the line of our allies at the start of the battle and turn it into an uncontrollable mess where every one fights alone against multiple orcs. That sounds more fun, than using our super bows, shooting from behind the dwarves, or covering their flanks with swords/spears.
Real life rome/greek/medi generals spin in their graves at the speed of sound.
精灵们愚蠢的跳跃每次都让我目瞪口呆。纪律严明的军队的盾墙和矛墙是其战胜数量占优的野蛮人部落的主要优势，尽可能长时间地坚守阵地永远是主要的目标，因为阵型被破坏就等于失败。但谁需要逻辑？让我们在战斗一开始就一厢情愿地破坏盟友的阵型，然后把它变成一个无法控制的混乱局面，让每个人都独自对抗多个兽人，这听起来比我们使用超级弓箭、从矮人背后射击或用剑/矛掩护他们的侧翼更有趣。
现实中的罗马/希腊/中世纪的将军会气得从坟墓里爬出来。
Idiotic jump of the elves makes me facepalm every time. A wall of shields and spears of a disciplined army is its main advantage over numerically superior barbarian horde. It is ALWAYS the main goal to hold it as long as possible, because broken formation = defeat. But who needs logic? Lets just willingly break the line of our allies at the start of the battle and turn it into an uncontrollable mess where every one fights alone against multiple orcs. That sounds more fun, than using our super bows, shooting from behind the dwarves, or covering their flanks with swords/spears.
Real life rome/greek/medi generals spin in their graves at the speed of sound.
精灵们愚蠢的跳跃每次都让我目瞪口呆。纪律严明的军队的盾墙和矛墙是其战胜数量占优的野蛮人部落的主要优势，尽可能长时间地坚守阵地永远是主要的目标，因为阵型被破坏就等于失败。但谁需要逻辑？让我们在战斗一开始就一厢情愿地破坏盟友的阵型，然后把它变成一个无法控制的混乱局面，让每个人都独自对抗多个兽人，这听起来比我们使用超级弓箭、从矮人背后射击或用剑/矛掩护他们的侧翼更有趣。
现实中的罗马/希腊/中世纪的将军会气得从坟墓里爬出来。
@goddessone3162
Picture this happening in America in the not so distant future. The people's armies going against the US government. As we speak avengers n Patriots are assembling now. Stay Safe and fight for what's yours and what You Love. I sure am. GOD Blesses the Righteous Souls that We are.
想象一下，在不远的将来，美国就会发生这样的事情：人民军队对抗美国政府。此时此刻，复仇者和爱国者正在集结。注意安全，为你的和你所爱的而战。我当然会参战，愿上帝保佑我们这些正义的灵魂。
Picture this happening in America in the not so distant future. The people's armies going against the US government. As we speak avengers n Patriots are assembling now. Stay Safe and fight for what's yours and what You Love. I sure am. GOD Blesses the Righteous Souls that We are.
想象一下，在不远的将来，美国就会发生这样的事情：人民军队对抗美国政府。此时此刻，复仇者和爱国者正在集结。注意安全，为你的和你所爱的而战。我当然会参战，愿上帝保佑我们这些正义的灵魂。
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