伊朗对以色列的攻击:中东即将发生战争吗?
2024-04-22 不要可乐 4493
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@user-kh2wc8nx1f
Middle East going to war?? What a novel and unprecedented series of events.

中东要开战了??多么新颖而史无前例的一系列事件。

@ma2mannelson932
All I ask is that I get to play gta6 before I get drafted and killed in some corner of a foreign field

我所期望的只是在被征召并且在某个外国战场被杀之前能玩上gta6。

@dreamcatcherpone
On one side of the conflict: my tax dollars at work
On the other side: somehow also my tax dollars

在冲突的一边:我的税款在起作用
在另一边:不知何故也是我的税款

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@Hsereal
9:10 I appreciate that you all emphasized that this was a retaliatory strike from Iran -- I've seen too much coverage that ignores or downplays that aspect.

9:10 我很感激你们都强调这是伊朗的报复性打击 —— 我看到了太多忽视或淡化这一方面的报道。

@Elongated_Muskrat
If anything the attack shows Iran much prefers proxy warfare over anything direct.

如果有什么的话,这次袭击表明伊朗更喜欢代理战争而不是直接行动。

@monsenrm
Well done. I follow this situation pretty closely and almost clicked away thinking I already knew most of it. However I kept going and was very impressed. You presented new information and images as well as discussing reasonable scenarios. Keep it up!

做得好。我对这个情况非常关注,几乎要点击离开,以为我已经了解了大部分内容。然而我继续阅读下去,非常印象深刻。你提供了新的信息和图片,并讨论了合理的情景。继续保持!

@Ikcatcher
I feel like people are missing the point that it’s not how Iran reacted, it’s how Israel will retaliate.

我觉得人们忽略了一个重点,那就是不是伊朗如何反应,而是以色列将如何报复。

@drago939393
Surely the financial cost is far worse for Israel, no? All those defense systems cost more to run than the Iranian weaponry.

以色列的财务成本肯定更严重,不是吗?所有那些防御系统的运行成本都比伊朗的武器更高。

@eyalamit5120
I have yet to watch to the end so I don't know if it's mentioned but something that is rarely mentioned is the fact that even Saudi Arabia was involved in the defense. Though they never formally contacted Israel and co. as far as I'm aware. But when the dust settles, Saudi officials released a statement claiming they believe the entire war was engineered by Iran to drive a wedge between the normalisation negotiations between Israel and Saudi Arabia. This specific attack might ironically bring more peace lol

我还没有看到结尾,所以我不知道是否提到了,但很少有人提到的是沙特阿拉伯甚至参与了防御。虽然据我所知,他们从未正式与以色列等人联系过。但当尘埃落定时,沙特官员发布了一份声明,声称他们相信整个战争是伊朗策划的,旨在在以色列和沙特阿拉伯的正常化谈判之间制造裂痕。这次特定的攻击可能具有讽刺意味,可能带来更多的和平哈哈哈。

@Burns0074
Just found your channel, your videos are incredibly well put together, explanations that are this clear and concise are hard to find. Thank you for your hard work.

刚发现你的频道,你的视频做得非常出色,这样清晰简洁的解释很难找到。感谢你们的辛勤工作。

@elisinyak1166
Excellent episode.. definitely “yes” to the proposed episode on the Middle East war

精彩的一集..绝对支持关于中东战争的提议。
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@randomist1984
Would love to see a more detailed look at how that war could look, always educational when you do these videos

希望看到更详细地探讨这场战争可能会如何的内容,每当你们做这些视频时都很有教育意义。

@tarelatawari7042
I know you needed time to research verify and edit but I’ve been visiting the channel waiting for this exposé for days

我知道你们需要时间去研究、核实和编辑,但我已经访问了这个频道几天了,等待着这个曝光报道。

@parasinthephilippines
I think we definitely need to deep dive this given its gravitas.

考虑到它的重要性,我认为我们确实需要深入挖掘这个问题。

@ehudk215
Lets not forget Iran's long history of disregard to foreign embassies. Seems a bit hypocritical for them to blame Israel, when it wasn't even the embassy itself, rather a building in the compound, which served to coordinate attacks against Israel...

让我们不要忘记伊朗无视外国使馆的悠久历史。他们指责以色列似乎有点虚伪,因为罪魁祸首甚至不是大使馆本身,而是使馆院子里的一栋建筑,它负责协调对以色列的袭击……

1979 - The US embassy in Iran is attacked and embassy employees are held captive
2011 - UK embassy in Iran is attacked
1992 - Israel's embassy in Argentina is bombed, killing 29, Argentina's court found Iran was behind the bombing.

1979年的今天,美国驻伊朗大使馆遭到袭击,使馆工作人员被俘虏
2011年,英国驻伊朗大使馆遭到袭击
1992年,以色列驻阿根廷大使馆被炸,造成29人死亡,阿根廷法院发现伊朗是幕后主使。

@peterbothwell5150
Another great summary and analysis of a geopolitical flashpoint. Thanks for being an obxtive and informative news source. I would greatly appreciate an in-depth analysis of the downstream implications of a full blown Israeli-Iranian war (e.g. the impact on global oil supplies).

又一个对地缘政治闪点的出色总结和分析。感谢您作为客观和信息丰富的新闻来源。我非常希望对一场全面爆发的以色列-伊朗战争的下游影响进行深入分析(例如对全球石油供应的影响)。

@speedstarofakina5237
We definitely need a full length episode on this developing situation.

我们绝对需要一集完整的关于这一事态发展的剧集。

@Wolfenhaas
I'm very happy that my country is not directly involved in what is a rapidly deteriorating situation

我很高兴我国没有直接卷入迅速恶化的局势

@Relatablename
We Iranians are not represented by the mullahs! Know that those who try to defend the IRGC are not Iranian and they support our people's suffering!

毛拉不能代表我们伊朗人!要知道,那些试图捍卫革命卫队的人不是伊朗人,他们支持我们人民的苦难!

@chriscantplay...2933
Excellent and informative. I’d almost forgotten what’s it’s like to hear a discussion of facts rather than a stream of biased rhetoric.

很棒,内容丰富。我几乎忘记了听到对事实的讨论而不是一连串带有偏见的修辞是什么感觉。

@COUNTVLAIDMIR
Isn't attacking embassy grounds just the same as attacking the sovereign territory of the embassy's nation?
or did I hear you just blurt out it isn't Simon?

攻击使馆不就是攻击使馆所在国的主权领土吗?
还是我听到你脱口而出那不是西蒙?

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@AdastraRecordings
The revolution will not be televised but it will be available as a TikTok video.

这场革命不会在电视上播出,但会以TikTok视频的形式出现。

@nicolasthecaged4940
Iran sends a few tens of millions worth of ordinances, Israel defends itself by expending an estimated $1 billion in air defense capability… Not exactly a win for Israel either I’d say.

伊朗派遣了价值数千万美元的军令,以色列通过花费大约10亿美元的防空能力来保护自己,我想说以色列也不是真正的胜利。

@iguiste23
I honestly think although they had a general knowledge Nato and the west in a whole are more powerful. I don't think Iran realised exactly how advanced the UK, USA and IDFs Air defense systems truly we're, or the fact of how well organised the five eyes, nato and west are. There's been a long assumption nato are asleep. That clearly isn't true and if they didnt before, Iran now know that taking us head on in an all out war is mass suicide.

我真诚地认为,尽管他们对北约和西方有一些常识,但北约和整个西方更强大。我不认为伊朗意识到英国、美国和以色列国防军的防空系统有多么先进,或者五眼联盟、北约和西方有多么有组织。长期以来一直有一种假设,即北约正在沉睡。显然这不是真的,如果他们之前没有意识到,现在伊朗知道直接与我们全面开战等于是自杀。

@timbuckley3231
Hi Simon can you and the team do a video on how countries defend against nuclear weapons?
Cos it seems strange that (as far as I’m aware) the only or main way nations counter a nuclear strike is to just launch their own nukes!!! Thanks mate

嗨西蒙,你和团队可以做一个视频介绍各国如何防御核武器吗?因为我觉得很奇怪(就我所知),国家应对核打击的主要或唯一方式是发射自己的核弹!谢谢伙计
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@John_does
Something I feel missed in the analysis is the cost and amount of Isreali defence, I think I read somewhere that the Isreali defence of the attack was 10 times more expensive then the Iranian attack, and in the case of full blown war the "Iron dome" will likly be occupied with Hizaballa attacks from Lebanon

我觉得在分析中遗漏了以色列防御的成本和数量,我想我在某个地方读到以色列防御攻击的成本是伊朗攻击的10倍,在全面战争的情况下,“铁穹”可能会被来自黎巴嫩的真主党袭击所占领

@mrmr446
Quite canny of Iran to give notice of the strike thereby demonstrating capability without causing casualties, a bit of minor damage to an airbase isn't much to claim an existential threat to which an overwhelming response is an absolute necessity. The idea that the attack was meant to do more damage doesn't make sense. Israeli media are reporting the war as lost as the declared aim of deleting Hamas is apparently nowhere close to completion.

伊朗非常精明地发出了打击通知,从而在不造成人员伤亡的情况下展示了自己的能力,对空军基地的一点轻微破坏并不足以构成生存威胁,对这种威胁进行压倒性的回应是绝对必要的。认为这次袭击是为了造成更大伤害的想法是没有道理的。以色列媒体报道说,这场战争已经失败,因为宣称的消灭哈马斯的目标显然远未完成。

@tonytooshort
It doesn't even matter if it meant or didn't meant to damage Israel. The bigger point here is Israel attacked a sovereign nation unprovoked FIRST.

它是否有意伤害以色列都不重要。更重要的一点是,以色列首先无缘无故地攻击了一个主权国家。

@jhosk
That had to be a embarrassment for Iran

这对伊朗来说肯定是件尴尬的事

@vondenbergen2615
let’s just ignore that Israel bombed Iran’s embassy in Syria

让我们忽略以色列轰炸伊朗驻叙利亚大使馆这件事
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@realtruth4804
what do you mean that Irans strategy didn't work? Israel has the best missile defence system in the world, had the support of US and UK, Jordan and others. They had 72 hours notice and still some missiles did get through. I don't think the intention was to kill or to cause massive damage. Iran don't want war with US. Their intention was to send the message to Israel that the iron dome cannot protect them and try to make them start respecting Irans sovereignty and operating within international law

你说伊朗的策略没有奏效是什么意思?以色列拥有世界上最好的导弹防御系统,得到了美国、英国、约旦和其他国家的支持。他们有72小时的通知,但还是有一些导弹通过了。我不认为他的意图是杀人或造成大规模破坏。伊朗不想和美国开战。他们的意图是向以色列发出信息,即铁穹无法保护他们,并试图让他们开始尊重伊朗的主权,并在国际法范围内行事

@rcgunner7086
What would a full scale war look like? How can two powers hundreds of miles apart without a common border or expeditionary capabilities really come to grips with each other beyond missile/drone/air bombardments?

全面战争会是什么样子?两个相距数百英里,没有共同边界或远征能力的大国,怎么能在导弹/无人机/空中轰炸之外真正地相互较量呢?

@jimbojimbo6873
Not being funny but you literally destroyed the embassy and killed 7 people in a country that had nothing to do with the war.
It absolutely should be expected

不是开玩笑,但你真的摧毁了大使馆,在一个与战争毫无关系的国家杀死了7个人。
这绝对是意料之中的

@flameski_
It's a bit disingenuous to call the attack "perplexing", Simon. Israel did openly attack an Iranian consulate, which is a violation of international law.

说这次袭击"令人费解"有点虚伪,西蒙。以色列确实公开袭击了伊朗领事馆,这违反了国际法。
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@whaecK
Awesome Episode as always, but i just cant stand those underlayed background sounds which sound like goin on in your environment, thats awful when you try to concentrate on something

一如既往的精彩,但我就是无法忍受那些隐藏的背景声音,听起来就像在你的环境中,当你试图集中注意力的时候,这太可怕了

@JustAnotherAccount8
Israel is very lucky this is all Iran wished to do. Iran made it incredibly clear well in advance of the attack, and also made it clear that this is the only attack they will send, and they wish to avoid any escalation. Israel would be incredibly dumb to retaliate to a closed matter.

以色列很幸运,这正是伊朗所希望的。伊朗在袭击之前就非常明确地表示,这是他们将发动的唯一一次袭击,他们希望避免任何升级。如果以色列对一个封闭的问题进行报复,那将是非常愚蠢的。
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@WriteInAaronBushnell
The drone strike from Iran reminds me of how the IRA would plant bombs then call in the bomb threat

来自伊朗的无人机袭击让我想起了爱尔兰共和军是如何埋下炸弹然后报警的

@Lucas-hb1uq
One thing is clear, secular democratic countries should be against any theocratic government.

有一点是明确的,世俗民主国家应该反对任何神权政府。

@mr.x817
I pray to Allah the people in Jordan & Egypt remove their spineless government.

我向安拉祈祷,约旦和埃及的人民推翻他们没有骨气的政府。

@BrendyNew
You're using Israel propaganda and using it as fact, but Iran has to prove what they are saying?

你在利用以色列的宣传,并把它当作事实,但伊朗必须证明他们所说的?
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@JFLTX
The strike from Israel on the Iranian consulate was unforgivable, yet Iran still gave them a warning and heads up, & only targeted military sites. Israel should learn from that.

以色列对伊朗领事馆的袭击是不可原谅的,但伊朗仍然给了他们警告和提醒,而且只针对军事地点。以色列应该从中吸取教训。

@glossjunkies6026
You failed to recognize the amount of data they gathered from all the areas that shot down drones. Now they have an idea of where defenses are and how they respond

你没有意识到他们从击落无人机的所有地区收集到的大量数据。现在他们知道了防御在哪里以及它们如何反应

@Xanos1
A veteran guy I know says that this is more of a symbolic attack and not to escalate in a full blown war as they made sure to an once the coming attacks

我认识的一个老兵说,这更多的是一次象征性的攻击,而不是升级为全面战争,因为他们确保一旦到来的攻击
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@allanjones57
The question that pops into my mind is this - would a proportional response involve the wounding of one, 7 year old iranian schoolgirl, or would it involve the launch of 300 cruise missiles into Iran?

我脑海中突然出现的一个问题是,相称的回应是伤害一名7岁的伊朗女学生,还是向伊朗发射300枚巡航导弹?

@jessthnthree
I feel like you are brushing over the kind of importance intel on Israeli defenses are to Iran - If things don't tone down they hypothetically have more intel they can utilize against Israel

我觉得你忽略了以色列防御情报对伊朗的重要性——如果事情不缓和下来,他们假设有更多的情报可以用来对付以色列

@davidboi4025
I have been following this for awhile and i was just rolling seeing this absoulute fail of an attck this was, i already know whats whats gonna happen and how its all gonna end i just need it to end in my favor for now, i like to sit back and watch the influance from across the pond i have from a lonley guy using weed can really cause an entire country havoc on their narrative

我已经关注了一段时间了,我只是看到了这次攻击的绝对失败,这是,我已经知道会发生什么,以及它将如何结束,我现在只需要它以对我有利的方式结束,我喜欢坐下来观察来自大洋彼岸的影响,一个孤独的家伙使用大麻真的会给整个国家的叙事造成破坏

@casinodelonge
There is a chance that Israel may use its nuclear forces, if so, what is the likelihood given that Iran has been arming Russia that Russia may choose to outfit Iran with a turnkey nuclear capability?

以色列有可能使用其核力量,如果是这样,那么考虑到伊朗一直在武装俄罗斯,俄罗斯可能会选择为伊朗提供全套核能力的可能性有多大?

@Passonator11
I maintained for about a decade that Iran's regime is 1 or 2 failed military adventures from collapsing.
I guess, my hypothesis is going to be tested in coming months.

大约十年来,我一直认为伊朗政权离崩溃只有一两次失败的军事冒险了。
我想,我的假设将在未来几个月得到验证。

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@pcnetworx1
This feels different from previous escalations. This might get hot enough to ignite something bigger.

这次感觉与以往的升级有所不同。这可能会变得足够热烈,引发更大的事情。

@soumyajyotimukherjee4752
Even the people with the most basic knowledge of geopolitics know that Iran had to respond, given their consulate was attacked unprovoked by the IDF.

即使对地缘政治有最基本了解的人也知道,伊朗必须做出回应,因为他们的领事馆被以色列国防军无缘无故地袭击了。

@EVILJAMARR
I haven’t even watched this video and I can tell how it’s gonna go: recap the events, detail different parties reactions, discuss possible modes of response, outline the possible horrible outcomes of that response and in the end say they don’t know - because no one knows. There, I saved you 20 minutes.

我甚至还没看这个视频,我就能知道接下来会发生什么:重述事件,详细说明各方的反应,讨论可能的反应模式,概述这种反应可能带来的可怕后果,最后说他们不知道——因为没人知道。好了,我帮你节省了20分钟。

@Christiancsilva13
I took Peter Zeihan's position here: Iran's response was very timid and well announced, just so send a message but to cause no major damage and escalation, comparing to Israel's attack which killed high commanders. Israel should restrict itself to fighting Hamas and not expand this fight to Iran

我在这里站在皮特泽汉的立场上:伊朗的反应非常怯懦,而且很好地宣布了,只是为了传递一个信息,但与以色列杀死高级指挥官的袭击相比,没有造成重大损害和升级。以色列应该把自己限制在打击哈马斯上,而不是把打击扩大到伊朗
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@nderitos
I think at this point we have to understand that this isn't really a war in the classical sense, (though all sides will still understandably arm themselves to a degree that is politically sensible) it's a war of international politics.
And in that respect, there is a notable and consistent shift amongst the most prominent actors in this conflict.
I don't think that there will be a notable shift in diplomacy any time soon, but the trend is clear and it is not in Israel's favor.
In that respect, Iran won this battle and is on track in winning the war.

我认为,在这一点上,我们必须明白,这并不是一场真正意义上的战争(尽管各方仍然会在政治上合理的程度上武装自己,这是可以理解的),这是一场国际政治战争。
在这方面,在这场冲突中最重要的角色之间存在着显著和持续的转变。
我认为短期内外交上不会有明显的转变,但趋势是明确的,而且对以色列不利。
在这方面,伊朗赢得了这场战斗,并正在赢得这场战争。

@idofalah3682
As an Israeli citizen i must say Simon’s analysis and attention to detail is so important in a world full of misinformation.
As for the content of the video itself…it really made me wonder what I even want my country to do…on one hand I’m afraid of escalation but on the other hand letting a rival country launch hundreds of missiles into our sovereign territory might really hurt are intimidation factor in the future…
Wonder what you guys think about it? Also if anyone has any interesting questions about living through this conflict i’de be happy to share my perspective

作为一个以色列公民,我必须说西蒙的分析和对细节的关注在一个充满错误信息的世界是如此重要。
至于影片本身的内容,真的让我想知道我到底想要我的国家做什么,一方面我害怕局势升级,但另一方面,让敌对国家向我们的主权领土发射数百枚导弹,可能会在未来真正伤害到我们的恐吓因素。
不知道你们怎么想?如果有人有任何关于如何在这场冲突中生存的有趣问题,我很乐意分享我的观点

@donwolff6463
I don't think that was an accurate statement to make: that one can intercept nukes at a high enough distance not to have any damage. High altitude detonations destroy all surrounding satellites and create a devastating EMP with an extremely extended range on the surface.
The U.S. did it just once in the Pacific and that was lesson enough not to repeat.

我不认为这是一个准确的说法:一个人可以在足够高的距离上拦截核弹而不会造成任何伤害。高空爆炸摧毁所有周围的卫星,并在地面上产生毁灭性的电磁脉冲,其范围极广。
美国在太平洋只做过一次,这是一个足够的教训,不会再重复了。

@ethanbradley2796
I'm pretty sure that Israel attacking the consulate in Syria to kill some Iranian guard was pretty escalatory and against normal international standards for that kinda thing, especially doing it in the middle of the war with Gaza and the many many seemingly creditable accusations of war crimes committed by Israel.

我敢肯定,以色列袭击驻叙利亚领事馆以杀死一些伊朗警卫是相当升级的行为,违反了此类事情的正常国际标准,尤其是在与加沙的战争中这样做,而且以色列犯下了许多看似可信的战争罪行。

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