卡梅伦说，英国禁止向以色列出售武器将加强哈马斯
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(Israeli tanks and other armoured vehicles gathered near the Gaza border fence on Thursday.)
（周四，以色列坦克和其他装甲车辆聚集在加沙边境围栏附近。）
新闻：
UK ban on selling arms to Israel would strengthen Hamas, says Cameron
-A UK ban on selling arms to Israel would only strengthen Hamas, the foreign secretary has told the BBC.
卡梅伦说，英国禁止向以色列出售武器将加强哈马斯
——外交大臣告诉BBC，英国禁止向以色列出售武器只会加强哈马斯。
-A UK ban on selling arms to Israel would only strengthen Hamas, the foreign secretary has told the BBC.
卡梅伦说，英国禁止向以色列出售武器将加强哈马斯
——外交大臣告诉BBC，英国禁止向以色列出售武器只会加强哈马斯。
(Israeli tanks and other armoured vehicles gathered near the Gaza border fence on Thursday.)
（周四，以色列坦克和其他装甲车辆聚集在加沙边境围栏附近。）
新闻：
Lord Cameron said while he would not support a major ground offensive in the Gazan city of Rafah, the UK would not copy US plans to stop some arms sales.
卡梅伦勋爵表示，尽管他不会支持对加沙城市拉法的大规模地面进攻，但英国不会效仿美国停止部分对以军售的计划。
卡梅伦勋爵表示，尽管他不会支持对加沙城市拉法的大规模地面进攻，但英国不会效仿美国停止部分对以军售的计划。
He said the UK supplies just 1% of Israel's weapons and warned Israel must do more to protect civilians and allow humanitarian aid through.
他说，英国只提供以色列1%的武器，并警告以色列必须采取更多措施保护平民，允许人道主义援助通过。
他说，英国只提供以色列1%的武器，并警告以色列必须采取更多措施保护平民，允许人道主义援助通过。
Labour's Jonathan Ashworth said he did not want UK-made arms used in Rafah.
工党的乔纳森·阿什沃思说，他不希望英国制造的武器在拉法被使用。
工党的乔纳森·阿什沃思说，他不希望英国制造的武器在拉法被使用。
This week US President Joe Biden upended part of one of the world's most significant strategic relationships by saying the US are "not supplying the weapons " if Israel went ahead with a planned invasion of Rafah - the southern Gazan city where about 1.4 million people have been sheltering.
本周，美国总统乔·拜登表示，如果以色列继续按计划入侵加沙南部城市拉法（约140万人的避难所），美国将“不提供武器”，这一言论颠覆了世界上最重要的战略关系之一。
本周，美国总统乔·拜登表示，如果以色列继续按计划入侵加沙南部城市拉法（约140万人的避难所），美国将“不提供武器”，这一言论颠覆了世界上最重要的战略关系之一。
The UN says more than 80,000 people have fled Rafah since Monday, with Israeli tanks reportedly massed close to built-up areas.
联合国表示，自周一以来，已有8万多人逃离拉法，据报道，以色列坦克在建筑密集区附近集结。
联合国表示，自周一以来，已有8万多人逃离拉法，据报道，以色列坦克在建筑密集区附近集结。
Israel has said it will proceed with planned operations in Rafah despite the US and other allies warning that a ground offensive could lead to mass civilian casualties and a humanitarian crisis.
尽管美国和其他盟国警告说，地面进攻可能导致大规模平民伤亡和人道主义危机，但以色列表示，它将继续按计划在拉法的行动。
尽管美国和其他盟国警告说，地面进攻可能导致大规模平民伤亡和人道主义危机，但以色列表示，它将继续按计划在拉法的行动。
Its prime minister, Benjamin Netanyahu, has pledged to eliminate Hamas battalions he claims are based in Rafah.
以色列总理本雅明·内塔尼亚胡已承诺要消灭他所声称的以拉法为基地的哈马斯部队。
以色列总理本雅明·内塔尼亚胡已承诺要消灭他所声称的以拉法为基地的哈马斯部队。
Speaking on Sunday with Laura Kuenssberg, Lord Cameron said he would not support a full-scale offensive on Rafah until he saw Israel's "plan to protect people".
在周日与劳拉·昆斯伯格的谈话中，卡梅伦表示，在他看到以色列“保护人民的计划”之前，他不会支持对拉法的全面进攻。
在周日与劳拉·昆斯伯格的谈话中，卡梅伦表示，在他看到以色列“保护人民的计划”之前，他不会支持对拉法的全面进攻。
But he argued the US, which he called "a massive state supplier of weaponry", is in "a totally different position" to the UK.
但他辩称，美国与英国处于“完全不同的地位”。他称美国是“一个庞大的国家武器供应国”。
但他辩称，美国与英国处于“完全不同的地位”。他称美国是“一个庞大的国家武器供应国”。
The UK government does not directly sell arms to Israel but grants licenses to weapons companies based on legal advice. In contrast, the US uses a less restrictive government-to-government deals to sell arms.
英国政府并不直接向以色列出售武器，而是根据法律建议向武器公司发放许可证。相比之下，美国使用限制较少的政府对政府交易来出售武器。
英国政府并不直接向以色列出售武器，而是根据法律建议向武器公司发放许可证。相比之下，美国使用限制较少的政府对政府交易来出售武器。
Lord Cameron said the last time he was urged to end weapons sales to Israel, when three Britons were killed in an air strike on aid workers in Gaza, "a few days later there was a brutal attack by Iran on Israel".
卡梅伦勋爵说，上一次有人敦促他停止向以色列出售武器，是在三名英国人在加沙的一次针对救援人员的空袭中丧生的时候，“几天后，伊朗对以色列发动了残酷的袭击”。
卡梅伦勋爵说，上一次有人敦促他停止向以色列出售武器，是在三名英国人在加沙的一次针对救援人员的空袭中丧生的时候，“几天后，伊朗对以色列发动了残酷的袭击”。
"Just to simply announce today that we will change our approach on arms exports, it would make Hamas stronger and it would make a hostage deal less likely," he adds.
他说：“今天只要宣布我们将改变武器出口的方式，就会使哈马斯更强大，也会降低人质交换的可能性。”
他说：“今天只要宣布我们将改变武器出口的方式，就会使哈马斯更强大，也会降低人质交换的可能性。”
He said he wanted instead to focus on "hammering away every day" on getting humanitarian aid into Gaza.
他说，相反，他希望把重点放在“每天都在努力”把人道主义援助运送到加沙。
他说，相反，他希望把重点放在“每天都在努力”把人道主义援助运送到加沙。
On Friday, the US State Department released an investigation which found Israel may have used American-supplied weapons in breach of international humanitarian law during the war in Gaza.
周五，美国国务院公布了一项调查，发现以色列可能在加沙战争中使用了美国提供的武器，违反了国际人道主义法。
周五，美国国务院公布了一项调查，发现以色列可能在加沙战争中使用了美国提供的武器，违反了国际人道主义法。
Pressed on whether he agreed with the findings, Lord Cameron said Israel's "performance is not good enough", arguing "Israel has not had a clean bill of health" on allowing humanitarian aid into the country.
在被问及是否同意调查结果时，卡梅伦勋爵表示，以色列的“表现不够好”，他认为，在允许人道主义援助进入该国的问题上，“以色列没有一张干净的健康证书”。
在被问及是否同意调查结果时，卡梅伦勋爵表示，以色列的“表现不够好”，他认为，在允许人道主义援助进入该国的问题上，“以色列没有一张干净的健康证书”。
But the UK "has a different approach" and Lord Cameron said he was "not really interested in message sending" through political moves like ending weapons sales.
但英国“有不同的做法”，卡梅伦勋爵表示，他对通过停止武器销售等政治举措“传递信息并不真正感兴趣”。
但英国“有不同的做法”，卡梅伦勋爵表示，他对通过停止武器销售等政治举措“传递信息并不真正感兴趣”。
Lord Cameron said: "I'm interested in what can we do to maximise the British pressure and the outcome that will help people in their lives - including getting the hostages, including British nationals, released."
卡梅伦勋爵说：“我感兴趣的是我们能做些什么来最大限度地发挥英国的压力，以及能帮助人们生活的结果——包括释放人质，包括英国公民。”
卡梅伦勋爵说：“我感兴趣的是我们能做些什么来最大限度地发挥英国的压力，以及能帮助人们生活的结果——包括释放人质，包括英国公民。”
He dismissed the idea of British boots on the ground in Gaza, saying it was "a risk that we should not take".
他驳斥了英国派军队进入加沙的想法，称这是“我们不应该冒的风险”。
他驳斥了英国派军队进入加沙的想法，称这是“我们不应该冒的风险”。
It comes after the BBC last month reported the government was considering sending British troops into Gaza to help deliver aid via a new sea route.
此前，英国广播公司上月报道称，政府正考虑派遣英国军队进入加沙，帮助通过一条新的海上航线运送援助物资。
此前，英国广播公司上月报道称，政府正考虑派遣英国军队进入加沙，帮助通过一条新的海上航线运送援助物资。
'Aiding war crimes'
Labour MP Zarah Sultana accused the government of not following its own rules by supplying weapons to Israel.
“协助战争罪”
工党议员谢拉·苏丹娜指责政府不遵守自己的规定，向以色列提供武器。
Labour MP Zarah Sultana accused the government of not following its own rules by supplying weapons to Israel.
“协助战争罪”
工党议员谢拉·苏丹娜指责政府不遵守自己的规定，向以色列提供武器。
The government's Strategic Export Licensing Criteria prevents weapons sales "if there is a clear risk that the items might be used to commit or facilitate a serious violation of international humanitarian law".
政府的战略出口许可标准在“如果有明显的风险，这些物品可能被用来犯下或促进严重违反国际人道主义法的行为”的情况下，禁止武器销售。
政府的战略出口许可标准在“如果有明显的风险，这些物品可能被用来犯下或促进严重违反国际人道主义法的行为”的情况下，禁止武器销售。
Ms Sultana said the scale of arms sales to Israel "does not matter".
苏丹娜表示，向以色列出售武器的规模“不是重点”。
苏丹娜表示，向以色列出售武器的规模“不是重点”。
"We are aiding and abetting what are war crimes happening on a daily basis" she told the BBC.
“我们正在帮助和教唆每天都在发生的战争罪行，”她告诉BBC。
“我们正在帮助和教唆每天都在发生的战争罪行，”她告诉BBC。
Labour's position on Gaza has shifted since the 7 October Hamas attacks, in which 252 people were kidnapped and about 1,200 killed, sparked a full-blown Israeli military operation in the area.
自10月7日哈马斯发动袭击以来，工党在加沙的立场发生了转变。那次袭击导致252人被绑架，约1200人丧生，引发了以色列在该地区的全面军事行动。
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自10月7日哈马斯发动袭击以来，工党在加沙的立场发生了转变。那次袭击导致252人被绑架，约1200人丧生，引发了以色列在该地区的全面军事行动。
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Since then more than 35,000 people have been killed and 78,000 others wounded in Gaza, according to the territory's Hamas-run health ministry.
自那以来，加沙地带已有超过3.5万人死亡，7.8万人受伤，这是由哈马斯管理的加沙卫生部提供的数据。
自那以来，加沙地带已有超过3.5万人死亡，7.8万人受伤，这是由哈马斯管理的加沙卫生部提供的数据。
Last year, 10 Labour frontbenchers quit over the party's failure to call for a ceasefire in Gaza as it instead backed a "humanitarian pause" to allow aid to flood into the country.
去年，10名工党前座议员辞职，原因是该党未能呼吁加沙停火，而是支持“人道主义暂停”，允许援助物资涌入该国。
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去年，10名工党前座议员辞职，原因是该党未能呼吁加沙停火，而是支持“人道主义暂停”，允许援助物资涌入该国。
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But in February, Labour began calling for an "immediate ceasefire" after the situation in Gaza "evolved".
但今年2月，在加沙局势“演变”后，工党开始呼吁“立即停火”。
但今年2月，在加沙局势“演变”后，工党开始呼吁“立即停火”。
Mr Ashworth, a senior member of the shadow cabinet, said he did not "want to see British-made weapons used" in an invasion in Rafah.
影子内阁高级成员阿什沃思表示，他不希望在入侵拉法时“看到使用英国制造的武器”。
影子内阁高级成员阿什沃思表示，他不希望在入侵拉法时“看到使用英国制造的武器”。
"A full-scale offensive into Rafah will be a catastrophe beyond descxtion," he said.
他说：“全面进攻拉法将是一场无法形容的灾难。”
他说：“全面进攻拉法将是一场无法形容的灾难。”
He called on the government to publish the legal advice it has been given on arms sales to Israel.
他呼吁政府公布向以色列出售武器的法律建议。
他呼吁政府公布向以色列出售武器的法律建议。
评论翻译
DevilishxDave
It's interesting and at the same time pretty wild how decision for or against Israel, keeps sending ripples through a very complex web of international relationships.
这很有趣，同时也很疯狂，支持或反对以色列的决定，在复杂的国际关系网络中不断产生涟漪。
It's interesting and at the same time pretty wild how decision for or against Israel, keeps sending ripples through a very complex web of international relationships.
这很有趣，同时也很疯狂，支持或反对以色列的决定，在复杂的国际关系网络中不断产生涟漪。
Picklesadog
I think this is the overall strategy from Hamas' regional allies, even if not of Hamas itself.
It was obvious what would happen if Hamas attacked. And with well placed propaganda and tugging on heart strings, the world's overall response to Israel's invasion of Gaza was also predictable.
Israel is in a worse place politically than they were in September 2023. Their ties with allies are weakened. Their perception our side Israel has gotten significantly worse.
For their regional foes, this was well worth the civilian lives.
我认为即使不是哈马斯自己的战略，这也是哈马斯地区盟友的总体战略。
很明显，如果哈马斯发动袭击会发生什么。通过精心的宣传和牵动人心，世界对以色列入侵加沙的总体反应也在意料之中。
以色列的政治处境比2023年9月时更糟糕。他们与盟友的关系被削弱了。他们对我们以色列方面的看法变得更糟了。
对于他们在该地区的敌人来说，这些平民的生命是值得的。
I think this is the overall strategy from Hamas' regional allies, even if not of Hamas itself.
It was obvious what would happen if Hamas attacked. And with well placed propaganda and tugging on heart strings, the world's overall response to Israel's invasion of Gaza was also predictable.
Israel is in a worse place politically than they were in September 2023. Their ties with allies are weakened. Their perception our side Israel has gotten significantly worse.
For their regional foes, this was well worth the civilian lives.
我认为即使不是哈马斯自己的战略，这也是哈马斯地区盟友的总体战略。
很明显，如果哈马斯发动袭击会发生什么。通过精心的宣传和牵动人心，世界对以色列入侵加沙的总体反应也在意料之中。
以色列的政治处境比2023年9月时更糟糕。他们与盟友的关系被削弱了。他们对我们以色列方面的看法变得更糟了。
对于他们在该地区的敌人来说，这些平民的生命是值得的。
FelbrHostu
Damaging international support was part of Hamas's goal; but only part. The main part was reducing regional influence, and I don't think that has happened to the degree that was intended. Israel's regional partners (I'll stop short of saying "allies") still trust Iran, Hamas, and even Palestinians in general less than they trust Israel.
破坏（以色列的）国际支持是哈马斯的目标之一；但只是一部分。主要部分在于减少（以色列的）地区影响力，我认为这并没有达到预期的程度。以色列的地区伙伴（我不说“盟友”了）对伊朗、哈马斯甚至巴勒斯坦人的信任总体上仍低于对以色列的信任。
Damaging international support was part of Hamas's goal; but only part. The main part was reducing regional influence, and I don't think that has happened to the degree that was intended. Israel's regional partners (I'll stop short of saying "allies") still trust Iran, Hamas, and even Palestinians in general less than they trust Israel.
破坏（以色列的）国际支持是哈马斯的目标之一；但只是一部分。主要部分在于减少（以色列的）地区影响力，我认为这并没有达到预期的程度。以色列的地区伙伴（我不说“盟友”了）对伊朗、哈马斯甚至巴勒斯坦人的信任总体上仍低于对以色列的信任。
Picklesadog
There was a report that the Hamas leadership actually thought they'd take Israel, and had plans on how to divide it up and which Israelis they would need short term. Rather delusional, but not surprising coming from religious extremists fighting what they see as a holy war.
有报道称，哈马斯领导层实际上认为他们会占领以色列，并计划如何分割以色列，以及他们短期内需要哪些以色列人。这是一种妄想，但来自宗教极端分子的说法并不奇怪，他们认为这是一场圣战。
There was a report that the Hamas leadership actually thought they'd take Israel, and had plans on how to divide it up and which Israelis they would need short term. Rather delusional, but not surprising coming from religious extremists fighting what they see as a holy war.
有报道称，哈马斯领导层实际上认为他们会占领以色列，并计划如何分割以色列，以及他们短期内需要哪些以色列人。这是一种妄想，但来自宗教极端分子的说法并不奇怪，他们认为这是一场圣战。
RockstepGuy
Yeah, their plan was for other terrorist groups, maybe even nations, to go out and do it, they would throw the first stone so the rest would follow.
In the end, they were delusional since some people really prefer to be alive rather than dead.
是的，他们的计划是让其他恐怖组织，甚至是国家，出去做这件事，他们先扔第一块石头，然后其他的就会跟着扔。
最后，他们是妄想，因为有些人真的宁愿活着也不愿死去。
Yeah, their plan was for other terrorist groups, maybe even nations, to go out and do it, they would throw the first stone so the rest would follow.
In the end, they were delusional since some people really prefer to be alive rather than dead.
是的，他们的计划是让其他恐怖组织，甚至是国家，出去做这件事，他们先扔第一块石头，然后其他的就会跟着扔。
最后，他们是妄想，因为有些人真的宁愿活着也不愿死去。
john_moses_br
Israel is integrated into the Western defense architecture, we can't refuse to sell them arms without risking Israel not selling us weapons when we need them.
以色列已经融入了西方的国防体系，我们无法拒绝向他们出售武器，而不冒以色列在我们需要武器时不向我们出售武器的风险。
Israel is integrated into the Western defense architecture, we can't refuse to sell them arms without risking Israel not selling us weapons when we need them.
以色列已经融入了西方的国防体系，我们无法拒绝向他们出售武器，而不冒以色列在我们需要武器时不向我们出售武器的风险。
MyDictainabox
What? In 2022, Israel exported $357M in Weapons, making it the 17th largest exporter of Weapons in the world. At the same year, Weapons was the 16th most exported product in Israel. The main destination of Weapons exports from Israel are: United States ($123M), Philippines ($65.7M), India ($41.1M), Thailand ($27.1M), and Spain ($12M).
The fastest growing export markets for Weapons of Israel between 2021 and 2022 were El Salvador ($8.46M), Australia ($6.53M), and Brazil ($6.46M).
Explain your stance on European dependence on Israeli arm sales, please.
啥？2022年，以色列出口了3.57亿美元的武器，使其成为世界第17大武器出口国。同年，武器是以色列第16大出口产品。以色列武器出口的主要目的地是：美国（1.23亿美元）、菲律宾（6570万美元）、印度（4110万美元）、泰国（2710万美元）和西班牙（1200万美元）。
2021年至2022年期间，以色列武器出口增长最快的市场是萨尔瓦多（846万美元）、澳大利亚（653万美元）和巴西（646万美元）。
请解释一下你“欧洲依赖以色列军售”的立场。
What? In 2022, Israel exported $357M in Weapons, making it the 17th largest exporter of Weapons in the world. At the same year, Weapons was the 16th most exported product in Israel. The main destination of Weapons exports from Israel are: United States ($123M), Philippines ($65.7M), India ($41.1M), Thailand ($27.1M), and Spain ($12M).
The fastest growing export markets for Weapons of Israel between 2021 and 2022 were El Salvador ($8.46M), Australia ($6.53M), and Brazil ($6.46M).
Explain your stance on European dependence on Israeli arm sales, please.
啥？2022年，以色列出口了3.57亿美元的武器，使其成为世界第17大武器出口国。同年，武器是以色列第16大出口产品。以色列武器出口的主要目的地是：美国（1.23亿美元）、菲律宾（6570万美元）、印度（4110万美元）、泰国（2710万美元）和西班牙（1200万美元）。
2021年至2022年期间，以色列武器出口增长最快的市场是萨尔瓦多（846万美元）、澳大利亚（653万美元）和巴西（646万美元）。
请解释一下你“欧洲依赖以色列军售”的立场。
ThinkingCap-on
1、Israeli companies operate European subsidiaries that manufacture things like anti tank weapons in Europe.
2、Israel provides key components for programs like the F35
3、Israel develops important technologies like Iron dome and trophy that are being adopted by western militaries.
1、以色列公司在欧洲经营子公司，在欧洲生产反坦克武器之类的东西。
2、以色列为F-35等项目提供关键部件
3、以色列开发的重要技术，比如铁穹和奖杯，正在被西方军队采用。
1、Israeli companies operate European subsidiaries that manufacture things like anti tank weapons in Europe.
2、Israel provides key components for programs like the F35
3、Israel develops important technologies like Iron dome and trophy that are being adopted by western militaries.
1、以色列公司在欧洲经营子公司，在欧洲生产反坦克武器之类的东西。
2、以色列为F-35等项目提供关键部件
3、以色列开发的重要技术，比如铁穹和奖杯，正在被西方军队采用。
1ofthebasedests
Europe is entering a position they never been to before since WW2.
If the Russia coalition decide to attack NATO and Europe in particular, we will need the defensive systems that Israel own.
We saw how Israel blocked the Iranian attack (with help of course, and clearly we helped to get some experience dealing with that type of weapons which was used for the first time very recently). Russia have stronger missiles and more of them, some of which are nuclear. Europe may need much more defense than we currently have.
欧洲正在进入一个自二战以来从未进入过的境地。
如果俄罗斯联盟决定攻击北约和欧洲，我们将需要以色列拥有的防御系统。
我们看到以色列如何阻止伊朗的袭击（当然是在帮助下，显然我们帮助获得了一些处理这种武器的经验，这种武器是最近第一次使用的）。俄罗斯拥有更强的导弹和更多的导弹，其中一些是核导弹。欧洲可能需要比我们目前更多的防御。
Europe is entering a position they never been to before since WW2.
If the Russia coalition decide to attack NATO and Europe in particular, we will need the defensive systems that Israel own.
We saw how Israel blocked the Iranian attack (with help of course, and clearly we helped to get some experience dealing with that type of weapons which was used for the first time very recently). Russia have stronger missiles and more of them, some of which are nuclear. Europe may need much more defense than we currently have.
欧洲正在进入一个自二战以来从未进入过的境地。
如果俄罗斯联盟决定攻击北约和欧洲，我们将需要以色列拥有的防御系统。
我们看到以色列如何阻止伊朗的袭击（当然是在帮助下，显然我们帮助获得了一些处理这种武器的经验，这种武器是最近第一次使用的）。俄罗斯拥有更强的导弹和更多的导弹，其中一些是核导弹。欧洲可能需要比我们目前更多的防御。
i-am-a-passenger
Don’t we mainly sell them components for missiles that improve targeting anyway? So by stopping the supply of these components, we would be forcing them to use less accurate weapons?
我们不是主要卖给他们提高瞄准能力的导弹部件吗？所以停止供应这些部件，我们就会迫使他们使用不那么精确的武器吗？
Don’t we mainly sell them components for missiles that improve targeting anyway? So by stopping the supply of these components, we would be forcing them to use less accurate weapons?
我们不是主要卖给他们提高瞄准能力的导弹部件吗？所以停止供应这些部件，我们就会迫使他们使用不那么精确的武器吗？
WillDigForFood
No, the UK primarily sells them aircraft and vehicle components.
Munitions and munition conversion kits amount to less than 10% of the total value of the UK's export licenses to Israel (which, in total, amount to barely 1% of Israel's annual weapons purchases, domestic or foreign.)
The UK is actually a net importer of military equipment from Israel.
不，英国主要向他们出售飞机和汽车零部件。
弹药和弹药转换套件的价值不到英国对以色列出口许可证总价值的10%（总的来说，仅占以色列年度武器采购量的1%，不管是国内还是国外）。
英国实际上是以色列军事装备的净进口国。
No, the UK primarily sells them aircraft and vehicle components.
Munitions and munition conversion kits amount to less than 10% of the total value of the UK's export licenses to Israel (which, in total, amount to barely 1% of Israel's annual weapons purchases, domestic or foreign.)
The UK is actually a net importer of military equipment from Israel.
不，英国主要向他们出售飞机和汽车零部件。
弹药和弹药转换套件的价值不到英国对以色列出口许可证总价值的10%（总的来说，仅占以色列年度武器采购量的1%，不管是国内还是国外）。
英国实际上是以色列军事装备的净进口国。
Haru1st
Wouldn't it be more effective to invest in cutting Hamas off from resources and isolating them from leeching off the palestinians instead of comitting to an open conflict?
与其投入到一场公开的冲突中去，不如投资于切断哈马斯的资源，孤立他们，让他们不要从巴勒斯坦人身上榨取钱财，这样不是更有效吗？
Wouldn't it be more effective to invest in cutting Hamas off from resources and isolating them from leeching off the palestinians instead of comitting to an open conflict?
与其投入到一场公开的冲突中去，不如投资于切断哈马斯的资源，孤立他们，让他们不要从巴勒斯坦人身上榨取钱财，这样不是更有效吗？
Warrior_Runding
No, the most effective way to kill an insurgent ideology is to be more appealing than them. Full stop. You will never kill an insurgency through military means - best case scenario, you only kill insurgents and insurgents use that as a recruiting tool. We are very far from the best case scenario.
不，消灭叛乱意识形态最有效的方法是比他们更有吸引力。以上。你永远不会通过军事手段消灭叛乱分子——最好的情况是，你只会杀死叛乱分子，而叛乱分子会将其作为招募新兵的工具。我们离最好的情况还很远。
No, the most effective way to kill an insurgent ideology is to be more appealing than them. Full stop. You will never kill an insurgency through military means - best case scenario, you only kill insurgents and insurgents use that as a recruiting tool. We are very far from the best case scenario.
不，消灭叛乱意识形态最有效的方法是比他们更有吸引力。以上。你永远不会通过军事手段消灭叛乱分子——最好的情况是，你只会杀死叛乱分子，而叛乱分子会将其作为招募新兵的工具。我们离最好的情况还很远。
Akira282
Hamas gets more recruits among the Palestinians as more civilian deaths occur. The cycle goes on and on. I feel like Israel has tried this tactic of eradication before and it failed. Doing the same thing over and over yields the same results.
随着更多平民死亡的发生，哈马斯在巴勒斯坦人中招募了更多的成员。如此循环往复。我觉得以色列以前尝试过这种根除策略，但失败了。一遍又一遍地做同样的事情只会产生同样的结果。
Hamas gets more recruits among the Palestinians as more civilian deaths occur. The cycle goes on and on. I feel like Israel has tried this tactic of eradication before and it failed. Doing the same thing over and over yields the same results.
随着更多平民死亡的发生，哈马斯在巴勒斯坦人中招募了更多的成员。如此循环往复。我觉得以色列以前尝试过这种根除策略，但失败了。一遍又一遍地做同样的事情只会产生同样的结果。
Unlikely-Painter4763
Israel has not done anything remotely close to this before. At worst, very limited artillery shelling and very targeted strikes. Best to stick to facts when discussing history and what's been effective.
以色列以前从未做过任何类似的事情。最坏的情况是非常有限的炮击和非常有针对性的打击。在讨论历史和有效措施时，最好坚持事实。
Israel has not done anything remotely close to this before. At worst, very limited artillery shelling and very targeted strikes. Best to stick to facts when discussing history and what's been effective.
以色列以前从未做过任何类似的事情。最坏的情况是非常有限的炮击和非常有针对性的打击。在讨论历史和有效措施时，最好坚持事实。
fiction8
Absolutely. Bombing Rafah is a fool's errand and will just result in more war crimes.
What I wish Israel would do is start peeling away the population with incentives. Take one of the empty cities/towns up north, clear out the rubble with military labor, and set up a humanitarian area that is overseen by the IDF (to prevent any tunnel activity) but offers a place for women and children to live and get educated.
Keep the aid rolling into Rafah and Hamas penned in, just offer a different. Leverage the million+ Palestinian Israeli citizens who already live in Israel to connect with the non-Israeli Palestinians and find the ones willing to just live their lives in peace.
绝对的。轰炸拉法是徒劳的，只会导致更多的战争罪行。
我希望以色列能做的是开始用激励措施赶走人口。以北部的一个空城/镇为例，用军队清理废墟，建立一个人道主义区，由以色列国防军监督（以防止任何地道活动），但为妇女和儿童提供一个居住和接受教育的地方。
继续向拉法和哈马斯提供援助，只是提供一个不同的方案。利用已经生活在以色列的100多万巴勒斯坦裔以色列公民与非以色列籍巴勒斯坦人建立联系，找出那些愿意和平生活的人。
Absolutely. Bombing Rafah is a fool's errand and will just result in more war crimes.
What I wish Israel would do is start peeling away the population with incentives. Take one of the empty cities/towns up north, clear out the rubble with military labor, and set up a humanitarian area that is overseen by the IDF (to prevent any tunnel activity) but offers a place for women and children to live and get educated.
Keep the aid rolling into Rafah and Hamas penned in, just offer a different. Leverage the million+ Palestinian Israeli citizens who already live in Israel to connect with the non-Israeli Palestinians and find the ones willing to just live their lives in peace.
绝对的。轰炸拉法是徒劳的，只会导致更多的战争罪行。
我希望以色列能做的是开始用激励措施赶走人口。以北部的一个空城/镇为例，用军队清理废墟，建立一个人道主义区，由以色列国防军监督（以防止任何地道活动），但为妇女和儿童提供一个居住和接受教育的地方。
继续向拉法和哈马斯提供援助，只是提供一个不同的方案。利用已经生活在以色列的100多万巴勒斯坦裔以色列公民与非以色列籍巴勒斯坦人建立联系，找出那些愿意和平生活的人。
Warrior_Runding
I mean, this would also require Israel to end all of their apartheid activity and compromise on Palestinian statehood. Offering humanitarian aid to a people after destroying their homes while holding them under a military governorship is the barest minimum of ending the current hot war. Israel has a very long way to go before they look like a more appealing option to the Palestinian citizenry.
我想说，这也需要以色列结束他们所有的种族隔离活动，并在巴勒斯坦建国问题上妥协。在军事统治下摧毁一个民族的家园后，向他们提供人道主义援助，是结束当前这场热战的最起码的办法。以色列要想成为对巴勒斯坦公民更有吸引力的选择，还有很长的路要走。
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I mean, this would also require Israel to end all of their apartheid activity and compromise on Palestinian statehood. Offering humanitarian aid to a people after destroying their homes while holding them under a military governorship is the barest minimum of ending the current hot war. Israel has a very long way to go before they look like a more appealing option to the Palestinian citizenry.
我想说，这也需要以色列结束他们所有的种族隔离活动，并在巴勒斯坦建国问题上妥协。在军事统治下摧毁一个民族的家园后，向他们提供人道主义援助，是结束当前这场热战的最起码的办法。以色列要想成为对巴勒斯坦公民更有吸引力的选择，还有很长的路要走。
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Ha_CharadeUAre
I wish there was some way to help Israel but make Netanyahu and his cabinet step down
我希望有什么方法可以帮助以色列，但要让内塔尼亚胡和他的内阁下台
I wish there was some way to help Israel but make Netanyahu and his cabinet step down
我希望有什么方法可以帮助以色列，但要让内塔尼亚胡和他的内阁下台
ComplexAsk1541
This piece of shit has already destroyed one country economically - his own - and now he's back like some sort of fucking diplomatic icon.
这个垃圾（卡梅伦）已经在经济上摧毁了一个国家——他自己的国家——现在他又像个该死的外交偶像一样回来了。
This piece of shit has already destroyed one country economically - his own - and now he's back like some sort of fucking diplomatic icon.
这个垃圾（卡梅伦）已经在经济上摧毁了一个国家——他自己的国家——现在他又像个该死的外交偶像一样回来了。
metametapraxis
And more importantly would reduce profits for defence contractors.
更重要的在于，禁止对以色列出口武器会减少国防承包商的利润。
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And more importantly would reduce profits for defence contractors.
更重要的在于，禁止对以色列出口武器会减少国防承包商的利润。
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