哪些行业并没有人们想象的那么有意思?
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Which profession is far less enjoyable than most people realize?
哪些行业并没有人们想象的那么有意思?
Which profession is far less enjoyable than most people realize?
哪些行业并没有人们想象的那么有意思?
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NotNamedBort
Veterinarian. It’s not all cuddling kittens and puppies. You get bit and scratched a lot, and you have to euthanize animals pretty much every day. It’s hard.
兽医。不全是跟小猫小狗腻歪。你会经常被咬伤抓伤,而且你差不多每天都要给各种动物打麻醉。很困难
Veterinarian. It’s not all cuddling kittens and puppies. You get bit and scratched a lot, and you have to euthanize animals pretty much every day. It’s hard.
兽医。不全是跟小猫小狗腻歪。你会经常被咬伤抓伤,而且你差不多每天都要给各种动物打麻醉。很困难
gildedblackbird
A friend of mine is a veterinarian. She said one of the harder things for her is when an animal is 100% save-able, but the owner can't afford it. She has footed the bill a handful of times in these instances, but has soul-crushing debt for vet school and can't do it as often as she wants (which is every time).
我有个朋友就是一名兽医。她说对她来说比较难以接受的事情就是有时候那个宠物100%可以救,但是主人却花不起这个钱。遇到这种情况的时候,她经常会帮忙垫一笔钱,但是她自己也背着兽医学校的沉重债务,没法让她经常这么做(基本就是每天都垫一笔)
A friend of mine is a veterinarian. She said one of the harder things for her is when an animal is 100% save-able, but the owner can't afford it. She has footed the bill a handful of times in these instances, but has soul-crushing debt for vet school and can't do it as often as she wants (which is every time).
我有个朋友就是一名兽医。她说对她来说比较难以接受的事情就是有时候那个宠物100%可以救,但是主人却花不起这个钱。遇到这种情况的时候,她经常会帮忙垫一笔钱,但是她自己也背着兽医学校的沉重债务,没法让她经常这么做(基本就是每天都垫一笔)
Thank you for all that you do.
感谢你们所有人的付出。
感谢你们所有人的付出。
eegopa
Yeah when we were students our puppy needed some ridiculous surgery. Vet declined to put down the dog because it could be saved with a $15,000 surgery. We could not afford it so we took our puppy to a different low income vet center that would put the puppy down "without judgement." We were bawling and the vet there said they could do a lesser surgery for $1,000 and maybe give the dog a good year or two. Of course we jumped right on that. Dog lived happily for another 11 years.
没错,我们还在念书的时候,我们养的小狗忽然要做一个很离谱的手术。兽医拒绝进行安乐死,因为花15000美元做个手术的话就可以把小狗救下来。我们花不起这个钱,于是我们就把小狗带到了另一家低收入的兽医院,他们说会“不加审视”地给我们的小狗做安乐死。在我们哭天喊地的时候,那里的兽医跟我们说可以做个1000美元的小手术,说不定能让狗狗多活一两年。我们当然立刻就同意了。结果狗狗又活蹦乱跳了十一年。
Yeah when we were students our puppy needed some ridiculous surgery. Vet declined to put down the dog because it could be saved with a $15,000 surgery. We could not afford it so we took our puppy to a different low income vet center that would put the puppy down "without judgement." We were bawling and the vet there said they could do a lesser surgery for $1,000 and maybe give the dog a good year or two. Of course we jumped right on that. Dog lived happily for another 11 years.
没错,我们还在念书的时候,我们养的小狗忽然要做一个很离谱的手术。兽医拒绝进行安乐死,因为花15000美元做个手术的话就可以把小狗救下来。我们花不起这个钱,于是我们就把小狗带到了另一家低收入的兽医院,他们说会“不加审视”地给我们的小狗做安乐死。在我们哭天喊地的时候,那里的兽医跟我们说可以做个1000美元的小手术,说不定能让狗狗多活一两年。我们当然立刻就同意了。结果狗狗又活蹦乱跳了十一年。
My husband was in law school and I was in medical residency at the time of our experiences there. One of my greatest joys is anonymously donating to their charity every year.
当时我老公在法学院,我在当住院医师。现在我最大的快乐就是每年匿名给他们的慈善基金捐款。
当时我老公在法学院,我在当住院医师。现在我最大的快乐就是每年匿名给他们的慈善基金捐款。
binglybleep
The other way would be awful too imo. Known a couple of people who’ve had dogs who had 0 chance of recovery who were sick and in pain, and their owners wouldn’t let them go. I think I’d really struggle not putting those animals down, suffering is really hard to see. I think pet owners have a responsibility to make that call when the time comes, kindness doesn’t always mean doing everything possible to keep a suffering being alive. It’s sometimes quite selfish to prolong their lives for your own comfort
pg67awx
You also get threatened by people constantly. I've had a man tell me he was going to "wipe the smirk off my face with a bullet." I wasn't smirking, I was smiling as that's what i do when I'm nervous. We called the cops and he had an unregistered gun crammed down the back of his pants and a warrant out for aggravated assault.
你还会经常被别人威胁。有一次一个男的跟我说他要“用子弹把我的笑脸抹平”。我没有在笑嘻嘻的,我笑是因为我紧张。于是我们报警了。发现他的裤兜里别了一把没注册的枪,然后因为严重侵犯他人身体被逮捕了。
The other way would be awful too imo. Known a couple of people who’ve had dogs who had 0 chance of recovery who were sick and in pain, and their owners wouldn’t let them go. I think I’d really struggle not putting those animals down, suffering is really hard to see. I think pet owners have a responsibility to make that call when the time comes, kindness doesn’t always mean doing everything possible to keep a suffering being alive. It’s sometimes quite selfish to prolong their lives for your own comfort
pg67awx
You also get threatened by people constantly. I've had a man tell me he was going to "wipe the smirk off my face with a bullet." I wasn't smirking, I was smiling as that's what i do when I'm nervous. We called the cops and he had an unregistered gun crammed down the back of his pants and a warrant out for aggravated assault.
你还会经常被别人威胁。有一次一个男的跟我说他要“用子弹把我的笑脸抹平”。我没有在笑嘻嘻的,我笑是因为我紧张。于是我们报警了。发现他的裤兜里别了一把没注册的枪,然后因为严重侵犯他人身体被逮捕了。
I've been here for a few years and my hospital has had 3 vets and 5 techs commit suicide. I'm trying to get out.
我在兽医院呆了几年,我们医院有三个兽医和五个技术工人试过自杀。我在试着往外跑。
我在兽医院呆了几年,我们医院有三个兽医和五个技术工人试过自杀。我在试着往外跑。
Feisty_Smell40
Just as much medical school, patients are even more obstinate, and paid a fraction of other medical professionals.
基本学的跟医学院一样多,患者更固执,拿的钱还是其他医学专业人士的零头。
Just as much medical school, patients are even more obstinate, and paid a fraction of other medical professionals.
基本学的跟医学院一样多,患者更固执,拿的钱还是其他医学专业人士的零头。
Hard to beat this one.
这行太难干了。
这行太难干了。
Gladyskravitz99
Any hobby you've turned into a profession. After a few years of being forced to do it to someone else's specifications, on someone else's deadline - only to have it critiqued into oblivion or expected for free - you'll despise everything about it.
任何被你变成了职业的爱好。在经历了几年为了其他人的要求而工作,赶其他人的截止日期的生活,最后的作品要么免费给,要么被批判得一文不值之后,你会厌恶你喜欢过的一切。
Any hobby you've turned into a profession. After a few years of being forced to do it to someone else's specifications, on someone else's deadline - only to have it critiqued into oblivion or expected for free - you'll despise everything about it.
任何被你变成了职业的爱好。在经历了几年为了其他人的要求而工作,赶其他人的截止日期的生活,最后的作品要么免费给,要么被批判得一文不值之后,你会厌恶你喜欢过的一切。
Reptilian_Brain_420
Nothing kills a hobby like turning it into a job.
没有什么比把爱好变成工作更能杀死这个爱好。
Nothing kills a hobby like turning it into a job.
没有什么比把爱好变成工作更能杀死这个爱好。
No-Understanding-912
Yep, work as a graphic designer now. I once dreamed of creating comic books in my free time and painting and sculpting, after so many years as a designer, I haven't touched a sketchbook for personal use in probably 6 years. Sure there are lots of worse jobs, but watching your lifelong love for something slowly die sucks.
没错,我现在是平面设计师,曾经我的梦想是用空闲时间画漫画,画油画和做雕塑,但是在当了这么多年的设计师之后,我可能有六年都没打开过速写本自己画着玩了。当然糟糕的工作有很多,但是看着你这辈子的爱好慢慢死掉确实很难受。
Yep, work as a graphic designer now. I once dreamed of creating comic books in my free time and painting and sculpting, after so many years as a designer, I haven't touched a sketchbook for personal use in probably 6 years. Sure there are lots of worse jobs, but watching your lifelong love for something slowly die sucks.
没错,我现在是平面设计师,曾经我的梦想是用空闲时间画漫画,画油画和做雕塑,但是在当了这么多年的设计师之后,我可能有六年都没打开过速写本自己画着玩了。当然糟糕的工作有很多,但是看着你这辈子的爱好慢慢死掉确实很难受。
tristan-chord
Professional musician here. I would never want to do another job and I think I have the best job in the world. But it's a job and has its frustrations and even boredom like any other job.
我是职业音乐人。我永远都不想换工作,我觉得我的工作就是世界上最棒的工作,但它说到底也是一份工作,也有它令人困惑甚至无聊的地方,和其他所有工作一样。
Professional musician here. I would never want to do another job and I think I have the best job in the world. But it's a job and has its frustrations and even boredom like any other job.
我是职业音乐人。我永远都不想换工作,我觉得我的工作就是世界上最棒的工作,但它说到底也是一份工作,也有它令人困惑甚至无聊的地方,和其他所有工作一样。
Mazon_Del
I'd say being an actual full time QA tester on videogames.
要我说就是当电子游戏的全职质检测试员。
I'd say being an actual full time QA tester on videogames.
要我说就是当电子游戏的全职质检测试员。
A lot of people just think all you do is get paid to play the game all day and then basically review it mentioning the occasional bug.
很多人都觉得你要做的事情就是拿钱玩一整天的游戏,然后做个测评,提两句偶尔出现的bug。
很多人都觉得你要做的事情就是拿钱玩一整天的游戏,然后做个测评,提两句偶尔出现的bug。
But no, if you're actually wanting to be kept around and paid decently, you might spend all day turning the game on, loading into it, then VERY precisely repeating the same set of actions trying to reproduce some very specific bug/crash that the game absolutely cannot ship with for compliance reasons. You need to constantly stay on top of the list of bugs that the other QA testers and us engineers are posting, because if you spend half a day doing what I just described, only to find out that's been a known bug for five weeks, well, that's not really a good use of your time.
但实际并非如此,如果你真的想要被留用,并且拿到不错的薪水的话,那么你可能一整天都要开着游戏,载入游戏,非常准确地重复同样的一系列动作,试着复现某一个让游戏因为兼容性原因而没法卖出去的特别的bug。而且你得不断解决其他之间测试员和工程师们找到的bug,因为你如果花了大半天的时间只能找到五个礼拜之前就已经被人找到过的bug,那说真的你并没有好好利用自己的时间。
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但实际并非如此,如果你真的想要被留用,并且拿到不错的薪水的话,那么你可能一整天都要开着游戏,载入游戏,非常准确地重复同样的一系列动作,试着复现某一个让游戏因为兼容性原因而没法卖出去的特别的bug。而且你得不断解决其他之间测试员和工程师们找到的bug,因为你如果花了大半天的时间只能找到五个礼拜之前就已经被人找到过的bug,那说真的你并没有好好利用自己的时间。
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Good QA people are worth their weight in gold, but the task you have is generally not something anyone really considers "fun".
好的质检人员的价值跟等体重的黄金一样,但是要做的任务真的算不上任何人会觉得“有趣”的事情。
好的质检人员的价值跟等体重的黄金一样,但是要做的任务真的算不上任何人会觉得“有趣”的事情。
dr-tectonic
Ooo, found a bug in the mobile game. Okay, now attempt to replicate it on two dozen different pieces of hardware.
噢噢,在手游里找到了一个bug。好的,现在试着在二十个不同的设备上尝试复现这个bug吧。
Ooo, found a bug in the mobile game. Okay, now attempt to replicate it on two dozen different pieces of hardware.
噢噢,在手游里找到了一个bug。好的,现在试着在二十个不同的设备上尝试复现这个bug吧。
And you don't get to just play good games that are fun. All games need QA, and guess what? There are a lot more bad games out there than good ones.
而且你不会永远只玩那些好玩的好游戏。所有游戏都需要质检,你猜怎么着?世界上的烂游戏可比好游戏多得多。
而且你不会永远只玩那些好玩的好游戏。所有游戏都需要质检,你猜怎么着?世界上的烂游戏可比好游戏多得多。
drhazard01
Also, even the best games barely qualify as functional right up until near the end. You might spend years of effort on something that would very much stretch the definition of 'game' and once it's actually close to being done, you could get sick of it.
此外,哪怕那些最棒的游戏也只有在马上发售的时候才勉强算得上是能玩。你可能要花好几年的精力去制作一个很难算得上“游戏”的东西,而等到它真的马上完工的时候,你可能看见它就要犯恶心了。
Also, even the best games barely qualify as functional right up until near the end. You might spend years of effort on something that would very much stretch the definition of 'game' and once it's actually close to being done, you could get sick of it.
此外,哪怕那些最棒的游戏也只有在马上发售的时候才勉强算得上是能玩。你可能要花好几年的精力去制作一个很难算得上“游戏”的东西,而等到它真的马上完工的时候,你可能看见它就要犯恶心了。
lilhurt38
I’m a Quality Engineer. All manual testing sucks. I absolutely despise writing test cases. Testing automation is a lot more interesting, but it can also get a little bit repetitive after a bit. There can be a lot of copying and pasting code and adding small adjustments because a lot of tests use the same steps.
我就是一名质量工程师。所有的手动测试都很恶心。我最痛恨的就是写测试案例。测试自动化要有意思的多,但过一段时间之后也会变得有点重复。会有大量的复制粘贴代码,只加上一点小的修改,因为很多测试的步骤都一样。
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I’m a Quality Engineer. All manual testing sucks. I absolutely despise writing test cases. Testing automation is a lot more interesting, but it can also get a little bit repetitive after a bit. There can be a lot of copying and pasting code and adding small adjustments because a lot of tests use the same steps.
我就是一名质量工程师。所有的手动测试都很恶心。我最痛恨的就是写测试案例。测试自动化要有意思的多,但过一段时间之后也会变得有点重复。会有大量的复制粘贴代码,只加上一点小的修改,因为很多测试的步骤都一样。
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80sixit
I tried to get into this industry when I was younger and working with Uneal Engine a lot but I didn't have any relevant school, anways...
之前我还年轻的时候我曾经试过进入这个行业,经常用虚幻引擎,但是我没接受过正统的训练,总而言之……
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I tried to get into this industry when I was younger and working with Uneal Engine a lot but I didn't have any relevant school, anways...
之前我还年轻的时候我曾经试过进入这个行业,经常用虚幻引擎,但是我没接受过正统的训练,总而言之……
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I feel like I got a taste of what it could be like because I lived down the street for a major studio so I did some "playtesting."
我感觉我可能稍微能理解一点这种工作是什么样子的,因为我就住在一个大游戏工作室附近,所以我做过一些“游玩测试”。
我感觉我可能稍微能理解一点这种工作是什么样子的,因为我就住在一个大游戏工作室附近,所以我做过一些“游玩测试”。
A couple of the games were just awful to play and I just wanted to finish the level, fill out the report amd get my gift card and go.
很多游戏玩起来就很没意思,我只想打完这一关,把报告填好,拿到我的礼物卡然后走人。
很多游戏玩起来就很没意思,我只想打完这一关,把报告填好,拿到我的礼物卡然后走人。
There was onetime though back in like 2012-2013, over 3 days, 4-5 hours a day with like 40 of us in a LAN environment playing an open world/sandbox shooter. It was a ton of fun and I got a $300 gift card for the local malls for that. Usually would to go EB and buy games with those GCs.
曾经有一段时间,大概2012-2013年那会儿,三天里每天四五个小时,我们大概四十个人在局域网环境里玩一个开放世界沙盒射击游戏。那时候特别有意思,我还拿了一张当地商店的300美元礼物卡。通常我都会用这个礼物卡去买游戏。
曾经有一段时间,大概2012-2013年那会儿,三天里每天四五个小时,我们大概四十个人在局域网环境里玩一个开放世界沙盒射击游戏。那时候特别有意思,我还拿了一张当地商店的300美元礼物卡。通常我都会用这个礼物卡去买游戏。
Plantayne
This type of play testing is a lot different from actual QA, though.
说实话,你这种游玩测试和真正的质检测试区别还是很大的。
This type of play testing is a lot different from actual QA, though.
说实话,你这种游玩测试和真正的质检测试区别还是很大的。
What you were doing was UX testing (User Experience). The idea isn’t really to find bugs— ideally they’ve already been found and fixed by this point—but rather to get feedback about systems, gameplay, maps, and potential exploits.
你所做的其实是用户体验测试。测试不是为了找到bug——理想情况下这些bug早就被找出来并且修好了——而是得到关于游戏系统,游戏体验,地图,以及潜在的滥用机制灯的反馈。
你所做的其实是用户体验测试。测试不是为了找到bug——理想情况下这些bug早就被找出来并且修好了——而是得到关于游戏系统,游戏体验,地图,以及潜在的滥用机制灯的反馈。
Play testing doesn’t usually have much to do with QA, although a team member may be present when the results are analyzed. It’s for the devs to find out what the core audience is thinking.
游玩测试跟质量检测基本没什么关系,尽管在分析结果的时候可能会有一个质量检测成员在场。游玩测试是为了让开发者知道核心用户怎么想。
游玩测试跟质量检测基本没什么关系,尽管在分析结果的时候可能会有一个质量检测成员在场。游玩测试是为了让开发者知道核心用户怎么想。
A lot of the time people are participating in play testing without even knowing it. For instance if you ever get into a beta or play a pre-release build at a convention, then the metrics of your session are being picked through and studied in great detail by members of the dev teams.
很多时候人们都参与了游玩测试,但是自己不知道,比如说你在一场游戏展会上玩到了beta试玩或者预览版,那么你这次试玩的各种数据都会被留下来,被开发组详细研究。
很多时候人们都参与了游玩测试,但是自己不知道,比如说你在一场游戏展会上玩到了beta试玩或者预览版,那么你这次试玩的各种数据都会被留下来,被开发组详细研究。
RuPaulver
Yeah I have a lot of friends who work/worked in video game QA. It's just a lot of busy-work to find bugs and retest the fixes, which might still have the bug or might've broken something else. Sometimes you can spend hours just testing menus. Not a whole lot of time to actually enjoy the game. Not a lot of pay either.
没错,我有很多朋友现在或者之前在电子游戏质检领域工作。其实就是忙活着找bug,测试修复后的bug,可能bug还在,也可能修bug修出了新的bug。有时候你可能几个小时都在测试菜单。很多时候你并不是在真正的享受游戏。而且拿的钱也不多。
Yeah I have a lot of friends who work/worked in video game QA. It's just a lot of busy-work to find bugs and retest the fixes, which might still have the bug or might've broken something else. Sometimes you can spend hours just testing menus. Not a whole lot of time to actually enjoy the game. Not a lot of pay either.
没错,我有很多朋友现在或者之前在电子游戏质检领域工作。其实就是忙活着找bug,测试修复后的bug,可能bug还在,也可能修bug修出了新的bug。有时候你可能几个小时都在测试菜单。很多时候你并不是在真正的享受游戏。而且拿的钱也不多。
On the plus side, I've heard a lot of AAA studios do come with their perks. The big one my friends worked at would have paid lunches where they'd just group-order whatever people wanted. Decked-out break rooms, an arcade, their own gym, and all the amenities of a modern high-end tech company.
但是从积极的方向考虑,我也听说有很多的3A工作室有自己的优待。我朋友之前工作过的大厂有免费午餐,职工想吃什么就拼团。精装的休息室,街机,自己的健身房,以及其他现代的高端科技企业都有的那种娱乐设施。
但是从积极的方向考虑,我也听说有很多的3A工作室有自己的优待。我朋友之前工作过的大厂有免费午餐,职工想吃什么就拼团。精装的休息室,街机,自己的健身房,以及其他现代的高端科技企业都有的那种娱乐设施。
But otherwise it's a pretty dead-end job to just get by on, if you're not working toward other skills like coding or art.
但其他方面来说这份工作没什么前途,只能凑活干着,如果你没有学习别的技能,比如代码或者美术的话。
但其他方面来说这份工作没什么前途,只能凑活干着,如果你没有学习别的技能,比如代码或者美术的话。
ChefInsano
My buddy did it for Microsoft and he’d spend hours in the same level of a game, sometimes just testing collision physics, where there weren’t even enemies or anything to do other than try to fall through the map.
我朋友之前给微软干过,他会在同一个关卡花好几个小时,有时候仅仅是测试碰撞物理特效,甚至关卡里都没有敌人或者别的可以做的事情,他们只能试着从地图里掉出去。
My buddy did it for Microsoft and he’d spend hours in the same level of a game, sometimes just testing collision physics, where there weren’t even enemies or anything to do other than try to fall through the map.
我朋友之前给微软干过,他会在同一个关卡花好几个小时,有时候仅仅是测试碰撞物理特效,甚至关卡里都没有敌人或者别的可以做的事情,他们只能试着从地图里掉出去。
Late-Presence9874
Agreed. I've been in QA for different game companies for about 10 years now and in the beginning it can be exciting because...video games! That honeymoon phase can fade quickly though.
同意。我已经给不同的游戏公司做了大概10年的QA了,一开始很刺激,因为……电子游戏!但这段蜜月期很快就结束了。
Agreed. I've been in QA for different game companies for about 10 years now and in the beginning it can be exciting because...video games! That honeymoon phase can fade quickly though.
同意。我已经给不同的游戏公司做了大概10年的QA了,一开始很刺激,因为……电子游戏!但这段蜜月期很快就结束了。
Besides what you describe salaries for a video game testers aren't the greatest as well so people either give up and quit at some point or switch to another department. I don't blame them at all as QA can be a great start to explore what career path you wanna take in the industry.
除了你所描述的内容之外,电子游戏测试员的工资也不算高,所以很多人要么不干了,要么就去别的部门了。我并不责备他们,毕竟如果你想探索在这个行业能走哪条路的话,那么质量检测确实是个不错的起点。
除了你所描述的内容之外,电子游戏测试员的工资也不算高,所以很多人要么不干了,要么就去别的部门了。我并不责备他们,毕竟如果你想探索在这个行业能走哪条路的话,那么质量检测确实是个不错的起点。
Playing video games it a nice to have but as QA you need to be very resilient and patient too. It can be incredibly draining sometimes.
打电子游戏确实挺好,但是当质量检测的话,你也得既坚韧不拔又有耐心。有的时候这份工作真的很累人。
打电子游戏确实挺好,但是当质量检测的话,你也得既坚韧不拔又有耐心。有的时候这份工作真的很累人。
With that being said I love being in the QA department and generally game industry. The pay is good for me personally and my coworkers are pretty amazing.
话虽如此,我还是很喜欢在质检部门,包括在游戏业界工作的。对我来说给的钱还算不错,并且我的同事们都很可爱。
话虽如此,我还是很喜欢在质检部门,包括在游戏业界工作的。对我来说给的钱还算不错,并且我的同事们都很可爱。
mdarprog
While reading these posts, please keep in mind that this question is subjective. Don't even think about giving up on the idea of becoming someone from this thread.
在读这些回帖的时候,请一定记住这个问题是主观的。不要因为某个回帖而放弃成为某种人的想法。
While reading these posts, please keep in mind that this question is subjective. Don't even think about giving up on the idea of becoming someone from this thread.
在读这些回帖的时候,请一定记住这个问题是主观的。不要因为某个回帖而放弃成为某种人的想法。
Free-Geologist-8588
Of all the jobs I’ve worked I’d have to say trucking. People imagine you out on the open road listening to audiobooks, friends give winks about the supposed lovely ladies knocking on windows, but the reality is 70% of time is spent in congested city traffic, unpaid in docks, constant sleep deprivation, and the only ladies that knock on the windows are heroin addicts covered in bruises from their pimps, you want no part of it.
在我干过的所有工作里,我得说应该是卡车司机。人们会想象你在大路上悠闲地听电子书,朋友会觉得有可爱的女士敲你的车窗,但现实是70%的时间里你都被困在拥堵的城市交通里,在港口拿不到工资,经常缺觉,并且唯一会敲你车窗的就是那些海洛因毒瘾患者,浑身都是嫖客殴打的淤青,你绝对不想掺和这个。
Of all the jobs I’ve worked I’d have to say trucking. People imagine you out on the open road listening to audiobooks, friends give winks about the supposed lovely ladies knocking on windows, but the reality is 70% of time is spent in congested city traffic, unpaid in docks, constant sleep deprivation, and the only ladies that knock on the windows are heroin addicts covered in bruises from their pimps, you want no part of it.
在我干过的所有工作里,我得说应该是卡车司机。人们会想象你在大路上悠闲地听电子书,朋友会觉得有可爱的女士敲你的车窗,但现实是70%的时间里你都被困在拥堵的城市交通里,在港口拿不到工资,经常缺觉,并且唯一会敲你车窗的就是那些海洛因毒瘾患者,浑身都是嫖客殴打的淤青,你绝对不想掺和这个。
Throw-away17465
Baking. It’s not just frosting Instagram-worthy cakes, it’s waking up at 2 AM for a 12 hour shift six days a week on your feet in a very hot room and endless repetition.
烘焙。不是为了做那种发instagram的小蛋糕,而是每天早上凌晨两点起床,一口气工作12个小时,一周工作六天,一直在炎热的屋子里站着,不断重复同样的工作。
Baking. It’s not just frosting Instagram-worthy cakes, it’s waking up at 2 AM for a 12 hour shift six days a week on your feet in a very hot room and endless repetition.
烘焙。不是为了做那种发instagram的小蛋糕,而是每天早上凌晨两点起床,一口气工作12个小时,一周工作六天,一直在炎热的屋子里站着,不断重复同样的工作。
350 pumpkin pies. 84 cinnamon rolls every morning. 330 cookies each day. All expected to be Uniform. It’s very boring and very challenging at the same time, the kind of job where you really gotta love it to do it.
350个南瓜派。每天早上84个香草卷。每天330个曲奇饼干。所有的出品都要统一。既无聊,又充满挑战性,你得真的特别喜欢这种工作才能干得来。
350个南瓜派。每天早上84个香草卷。每天330个曲奇饼干。所有的出品都要统一。既无聊,又充满挑战性,你得真的特别喜欢这种工作才能干得来。
ohdarngoshgollyme
I’ve heard that acting can be pretty bad. It looks fun on film but imagine having to re-record scenes for days on end, working at all hours of the night, having the director tell you that what you’re doing isn’t quite what he/she is looking for, and dealing with coworkers that come in high, drunk, etc. which delays recording scenes. On top of that, the job security is close to none so you’re always chasing new opportunities and can’t ever feel settled down until you have a few major movies under your belt.
我听说当演员会很困难。电影里看起来挺有意思的,但是想象一下你要一天到晚地重拍某个场景,晚上干一整个通宵,任凭导演告诉你你做的并不是他想要的,还要跟一群溜大了,喝醉了然后延误拍摄的同事打交道。最重要的是,这份工作几乎没有任何保障,你永远要追求新的机会,根本没法让自己安顿下来,除非你已经演过了好几个大片。
I’ve heard that acting can be pretty bad. It looks fun on film but imagine having to re-record scenes for days on end, working at all hours of the night, having the director tell you that what you’re doing isn’t quite what he/she is looking for, and dealing with coworkers that come in high, drunk, etc. which delays recording scenes. On top of that, the job security is close to none so you’re always chasing new opportunities and can’t ever feel settled down until you have a few major movies under your belt.
我听说当演员会很困难。电影里看起来挺有意思的,但是想象一下你要一天到晚地重拍某个场景,晚上干一整个通宵,任凭导演告诉你你做的并不是他想要的,还要跟一群溜大了,喝醉了然后延误拍摄的同事打交道。最重要的是,这份工作几乎没有任何保障,你永远要追求新的机会,根本没法让自己安顿下来,除非你已经演过了好几个大片。
MortLightstone
I'm an actor. There's no money in it. Casting directors expect you to be available for auditions within 1 day or less of notice. You need to do so many auditions to book anything and have to be available in case you get an audition that you spend most of your time auditioning and networking. This is all time you can't spend making money somewhere else, so it's hard to have a side job
我就是个演员。根本赚不到钱。选角导演认为你应该在收到通知的一天之内就能参加试镜。你得试很多镜才能得到一份角色,而且为了通过试镜,你得把所有时间都花在试镜和社交上。因为时间都花在这些事情上面,所以你也没办法干别的事情赚钱,很难找副业。
I'm an actor. There's no money in it. Casting directors expect you to be available for auditions within 1 day or less of notice. You need to do so many auditions to book anything and have to be available in case you get an audition that you spend most of your time auditioning and networking. This is all time you can't spend making money somewhere else, so it's hard to have a side job
我就是个演员。根本赚不到钱。选角导演认为你应该在收到通知的一天之内就能参加试镜。你得试很多镜才能得到一份角色,而且为了通过试镜,你得把所有时间都花在试镜和社交上。因为时间都花在这些事情上面,所以你也没办法干别的事情赚钱,很难找副业。
So you end up slowly losing money until you go broke unless you have a big breakthrough or a recurring gig before it happens. If you don't keep getting better and better roles over time, you'll eventually get to a point where you can't afford to do it anymore
所以你开始慢慢的赔钱,直到你破产,或者在破产之前你忽然红了,或者有个节目能一直找你来演。如果你没法得到越来越好的角色,总有一天你会干不起这个行业的。
所以你开始慢慢的赔钱,直到你破产,或者在破产之前你忽然红了,或者有个节目能一直找你来演。如果你没法得到越来越好的角色,总有一天你会干不起这个行业的。
After 20 years, I just couldn't afford to keep doing it anymore. The pandemic was the final nail in the coffin. I lost my agent, my job and my apartment. Couldn't get another one with no income and couldn't get employment insurance because actors are independent contractors. I lucked out by meeting a guy that let me sublet and then the government benefit saved me from homelessness
在过了二十年之后,我已经当不起一名演员了。疫情是棺材上的最后一根钉子。我失去了我的经纪人,我的工作和我的公寓,我没有收入,所以也没法再租一个房子,也没法得到失业保险,因为演员都是独立承包商。幸运的是有个人愿意给我转租,政府救济也让我不至于无家可归。
在过了二十年之后,我已经当不起一名演员了。疫情是棺材上的最后一根钉子。我失去了我的经纪人,我的工作和我的公寓,我没有收入,所以也没法再租一个房子,也没法得到失业保险,因为演员都是独立承包商。幸运的是有个人愿意给我转租,政府救济也让我不至于无家可归。
I should also mention that as an independent contractor, you don't have any of the benefits or protections of being an employee. Also, the amount of work available to someone that looks like you will change depending where you're located. As a long haired Latino in Canada, it was difficult finding roles I could be considered for. Local casting agents really liked me but struggled to find me auditions. Most of what I got were criminals, because most of the work available was in American productions and Latinos are definitely type cast
而且我得提一句,作为独立承包商,你享受不到作为员工的任何一种福利或是保障。此外,你的外貌能给你带来的工作,取决于你的居住环境。作为一名住在加拿大的长发的拉丁裔,我在这里很难找到我能演的角色。本地的经纪人特别喜欢我,但很难给我找到试镜的机会。我能拿到的绝大多数的角色都是罪犯,因为这里的工作基本上都是美国制片人出品,他们眼里的拉丁裔都是典型的反派。
而且我得提一句,作为独立承包商,你享受不到作为员工的任何一种福利或是保障。此外,你的外貌能给你带来的工作,取决于你的居住环境。作为一名住在加拿大的长发的拉丁裔,我在这里很难找到我能演的角色。本地的经纪人特别喜欢我,但很难给我找到试镜的机会。我能拿到的绝大多数的角色都是罪犯,因为这里的工作基本上都是美国制片人出品,他们眼里的拉丁裔都是典型的反派。
Acting itself is amazing though
但表演本身确实很有意思。
但表演本身确实很有意思。
I remember when I was training I took a class from Matthew Lillard and he told me that getting a good role as an actor was so hard, you'd be lucky if you don't have to pay for it
我记得在自己还在学表演的时候,马修·利拉德给我们上了一课,他跟我说作为演员能得到好的角色非常难,假如你不用花钱就能演这么一个角色那你就太幸运了。
我记得在自己还在学表演的时候,马修·利拉德给我们上了一课,他跟我说作为演员能得到好的角色非常难,假如你不用花钱就能演这么一个角色那你就太幸运了。
I didn't know how right he was until I got into it
我不知道他的话说得多对,直到我自己进入这一行业。
我不知道他的话说得多对,直到我自己进入这一行业。
Most of my most fun roles were in projects I did with friends or students, were I either worked for free or helped produce
我觉得有趣的角色都是和朋友或者学生做的企划,我要么是免费出演的,要么帮忙制片。
我觉得有趣的角色都是和朋友或者学生做的企划,我要么是免费出演的,要么帮忙制片。
sadbirdfox
Therapist. People think with a clipboard and taking notes. We deal with some terrible stuff that gives us nightmares all the time
心理治疗师。人们以为我们只要拿着个垫板记笔记。实际上我们要打交道的事情总是让我们半夜做噩梦。
Therapist. People think with a clipboard and taking notes. We deal with some terrible stuff that gives us nightmares all the time
心理治疗师。人们以为我们只要拿着个垫板记笔记。实际上我们要打交道的事情总是让我们半夜做噩梦。
125monty
Comments summary.. all jobs are less enjoyable than people realise.
总结一下,所有工作都没人们想象的那么有意思。
Comments summary.. all jobs are less enjoyable than people realise.
总结一下,所有工作都没人们想象的那么有意思。
Outrageous_Emu8503
Don't grow up, kids! It's a trap.
别长大,孩子们!这是个陷阱。
Don't grow up, kids! It's a trap.
别长大,孩子们!这是个陷阱。
EmberDione
Game Development. We aren't usually making our own ideas, we're making some VC's idea. We are often asked to do 500% of the work in 20% of the time, while also having our expertise and experience ignored. We then somehow manage to ship the game without dying, only to have gamers attack US for shit we did not have control over, and then we get laid off and have to move AGAIN. It fucking sucks, but apparently we can't say that to people because they do not grok that the job isn't just playing games all day and coming up with cool ideas. (Neither of those are tasks game devs do.)
游戏研发。我们其实做的不是我们自己的创意,而是某个风投的创意。我们经常要用20%的时间完成500%的工作,并且我们的专业知识和经验往往要被无视。然后不知怎么回事我们这个游戏竟然能卖出去而没有暴死,但玩家们全都因为一些我们完全控制不了的事情而骂我们,然后我们只能再一次被开除,再一次换新工作。这真的很恶心,而且你也没法跟别人说,毕竟他们不明白这份工作不是整天打游戏,然后脑子里冒出来很酷的点子。(游戏研发要干的从来都不是这两件事。)
Game Development. We aren't usually making our own ideas, we're making some VC's idea. We are often asked to do 500% of the work in 20% of the time, while also having our expertise and experience ignored. We then somehow manage to ship the game without dying, only to have gamers attack US for shit we did not have control over, and then we get laid off and have to move AGAIN. It fucking sucks, but apparently we can't say that to people because they do not grok that the job isn't just playing games all day and coming up with cool ideas. (Neither of those are tasks game devs do.)
游戏研发。我们其实做的不是我们自己的创意,而是某个风投的创意。我们经常要用20%的时间完成500%的工作,并且我们的专业知识和经验往往要被无视。然后不知怎么回事我们这个游戏竟然能卖出去而没有暴死,但玩家们全都因为一些我们完全控制不了的事情而骂我们,然后我们只能再一次被开除,再一次换新工作。这真的很恶心,而且你也没法跟别人说,毕竟他们不明白这份工作不是整天打游戏,然后脑子里冒出来很酷的点子。(游戏研发要干的从来都不是这两件事。)
Gardener15577
Being a teacher. It's basically babysitting bratty kids and working 10 hours a day for crap pay
当老师。简单来说就是给一帮小逼崽子当保姆,一天工作十个小时挣点钱不够花的。
Being a teacher. It's basically babysitting bratty kids and working 10 hours a day for crap pay
当老师。简单来说就是给一帮小逼崽子当保姆,一天工作十个小时挣点钱不够花的。
antieverything
Everybody is probably thinking "yeah, but I already know it sucks".
所有人可能都觉得“啊对,我早就知道这行不好干。”
Everybody is probably thinking "yeah, but I already know it sucks".
所有人可能都觉得“啊对,我早就知道这行不好干。”
...however bad you think it is, the reality is worse (and it gets worse every single year).
……不管你觉得这行多不好干,现实都是更不好干(而且一年比一年不好干)。
……不管你觉得这行多不好干,现实都是更不好干(而且一年比一年不好干)。
smokinbbq
I'm in Ontario Canada. Teachers here make a good amount of money, and it's still a profession that I don't think I'd recommend to anyone if they asked me about a career choice.
我在加拿大的安大略。这里的老师们挣钱不少,但我仍然觉得我不会推荐那些向我咨询职业生涯选择的人当老师。
I'm in Ontario Canada. Teachers here make a good amount of money, and it's still a profession that I don't think I'd recommend to anyone if they asked me about a career choice.
我在加拿大的安大略。这里的老师们挣钱不少,但我仍然觉得我不会推荐那些向我咨询职业生涯选择的人当老师。
Sure, you can make >$100k/yr as a high school teacher. But you need to work with an admin staff (principles, and higher) that will NOT have your back if there are any issues. You have to deal with entitled and shitty kids all day long. You have to deal with entitled and shitty parents all evening long. You need to do marking and other bullshit on your own time.
没错,当高中老师一年是能挣10多万美元。但你得和一群出了任何麻烦都不会保你的行政人员(校长之类的)共事。白天你得和一群浑身毛病还自我感觉良好的孩子们打交道。晚上你得跟一群浑身毛病还自我感觉良好的家长们打交道。你得用私人时间去批作业,去做其他烂事。
没错,当高中老师一年是能挣10多万美元。但你得和一群出了任何麻烦都不会保你的行政人员(校长之类的)共事。白天你得和一群浑身毛病还自我感觉良好的孩子们打交道。晚上你得跟一群浑身毛病还自我感觉良好的家长们打交道。你得用私人时间去批作业,去做其他烂事。
If you're a teacher that actually cares, then it's even more work, because you are doing stuff for the kids on your own time, or giving them chances where you can, just to get shit on by all that was mentioned above.
如果你是个真的在乎孩子们的老师,那你的工作就更多了,因为你得花自己的时间给孩子们做事情,或者在可以的时候给他们机会,一切只是为了熬过我上面提到的那些烂事。
如果你是个真的在乎孩子们的老师,那你的工作就更多了,因为你得花自己的时间给孩子们做事情,或者在可以的时候给他们机会,一切只是为了熬过我上面提到的那些烂事。
VenetianGamer
Teaching.
当老师。
Teaching.
当老师。
Dealing with parents whose children “would never do such a thing” or the parents who “know better about education than the teacher” and Kids that simply do not care nor want to learn drains a teachers soul. Mix that with traditional office politics and battles with school administration and you’ll go gray by your eighth year.
跟一群“打死我也不这么做”的孩子们的家长,或者是一群“老师懂教育哪有我懂得多”的家长,还有一群根本不在乎也不想学习的孩子们打交道,会慢慢榨干一个老师的灵魂。
跟一群“打死我也不这么做”的孩子们的家长,或者是一群“老师懂教育哪有我懂得多”的家长,还有一群根本不在乎也不想学习的孩子们打交道,会慢慢榨干一个老师的灵魂。
alf0nz0
Bartending. Everyone thinks it’s just joking with customers, shaking cocktails, drinking at work & making great money. They don’t see the late night sloppy assholes who need to be kicked out, puke-covered bathrooms, dead day shifts where you’re squeezing hundreds of lemons & limes by hand for entitled night bartenders who will make 10x what you made & leave the place a mess for you in the morning… the sexual harassment, rampant drug abuse, no breaks, no paid time off, no vacations, no 401k, no health insurance… so glamorous…
当酒保。所有人都以为你只需要跟客户开开玩笑,摇一摇鸡尾酒,工作的时候喝两杯就能挣大钱。他们看不见那些后半夜毛手毛脚等着被踢出去的混蛋,满地都是呕吐物的洗手间,以及累得要死的白班,给那些自命不凡的夜班酒保徒手榨几百个柠檬和莱姆,他们挣的是你的十倍,然后留下一地狼藉给你早上收拾……性骚扰,无法无天的吸毒,没有休息,没有带薪休假,没有假期,没有社保和医保……太光鲜亮丽了……
Bartending. Everyone thinks it’s just joking with customers, shaking cocktails, drinking at work & making great money. They don’t see the late night sloppy assholes who need to be kicked out, puke-covered bathrooms, dead day shifts where you’re squeezing hundreds of lemons & limes by hand for entitled night bartenders who will make 10x what you made & leave the place a mess for you in the morning… the sexual harassment, rampant drug abuse, no breaks, no paid time off, no vacations, no 401k, no health insurance… so glamorous…
当酒保。所有人都以为你只需要跟客户开开玩笑,摇一摇鸡尾酒,工作的时候喝两杯就能挣大钱。他们看不见那些后半夜毛手毛脚等着被踢出去的混蛋,满地都是呕吐物的洗手间,以及累得要死的白班,给那些自命不凡的夜班酒保徒手榨几百个柠檬和莱姆,他们挣的是你的十倍,然后留下一地狼藉给你早上收拾……性骚扰,无法无天的吸毒,没有休息,没有带薪休假,没有假期,没有社保和医保……太光鲜亮丽了……
The_Swoley_Ghost
Personal trainer/strength coach. Usually you take the job because you care a lot about training. It's a hobby that turns into a job. Most of the people who would hire you (unless you're working with a fairly high level sports team or pro athlete) are actually not very motivated at all beyond being willing to pay the fee and show up (and sometimes they on't even show up...).
私教/健身教练。通常来说你选择这份工作都是因为你非常在乎健身。这就算是把爱好变成了工作。绝大多数愿意雇你的人(除非你是在为高水平的体育队伍或是专业运动员工作)实际上都没什么健身的动机,除了乐意花一笔钱然后露个面之外(有时候他们甚至连面都不露……)
Personal trainer/strength coach. Usually you take the job because you care a lot about training. It's a hobby that turns into a job. Most of the people who would hire you (unless you're working with a fairly high level sports team or pro athlete) are actually not very motivated at all beyond being willing to pay the fee and show up (and sometimes they on't even show up...).
私教/健身教练。通常来说你选择这份工作都是因为你非常在乎健身。这就算是把爱好变成了工作。绝大多数愿意雇你的人(除非你是在为高水平的体育队伍或是专业运动员工作)实际上都没什么健身的动机,除了乐意花一笔钱然后露个面之外(有时候他们甚至连面都不露……)
Most of your advice will also be ignored and you will get blamed for their lack of willpower or discipline. I've had so many clients come to me specifically for fat loss but refuse to keep a food journal for even two weeks, or who say things like "no, I pay you for this one hour so that I can eat whatever I want for the other hours of the week." They think you're going to unfuck the other 167 hours in the week with that 1 hour of [usually half-assed] training. Once I was fired by a client for telling her that her daily starbucks "reward" coffee was almost 1000 calories and therefore needed to be cut. She found another coach who told her that she could keep the extra 1000 calories per day and still lose weight.
你的绝大多数建议都会打水漂,你甚至会因为他们自己的缺乏意志力或自律而挨骂。我遇到过很多客户来找我减肥,但却不愿意记录自己的饮食,连两个星期都坚持不下来,或者说什么“不,我花钱就是为了在你这练一个小时,然后这一个星期剩下的一百多个小时我就可以想吃什么吃什么”。他们觉得只要在你这练了(通常是装模作样的)一个小时之后,剩下的167个小时里他们干什么都无所谓了。有一次我跟我的客户说她每天的星巴克“奖励”咖啡有将近1000个大卡,所以得戒掉,结果我被她开除了,她之后又找到了一个教练跟她说可以保留这每天额外的1000大卡,然后还能减肥。
你的绝大多数建议都会打水漂,你甚至会因为他们自己的缺乏意志力或自律而挨骂。我遇到过很多客户来找我减肥,但却不愿意记录自己的饮食,连两个星期都坚持不下来,或者说什么“不,我花钱就是为了在你这练一个小时,然后这一个星期剩下的一百多个小时我就可以想吃什么吃什么”。他们觉得只要在你这练了(通常是装模作样的)一个小时之后,剩下的167个小时里他们干什么都无所谓了。有一次我跟我的客户说她每天的星巴克“奖励”咖啡有将近1000个大卡,所以得戒掉,结果我被她开除了,她之后又找到了一个教练跟她说可以保留这每天额外的1000大卡,然后还能减肥。
People come to you with crazy expectations and then get upset when THEY fall short. I've had multiple obese clients come in and mention that they wanted to lose 20+ pounds (9kg+) before their social event ( friend's wedding, class reunx, expensive vacation etc) but then refuse to change their diet. The event is usually a month or two away... impossible.
人们带着不切实际的期待来找你,结果他们自己达不到这个预期反倒要生你的气。我遇见过很多肥胖的客人找到我,跟我说他们想要在某个社交活动(朋友婚礼,班级聚会,昂贵的度假之类的)开始之前减个二十多磅(9公斤以上),但是他们却拒绝改变自己的饮食。而且截止日期可能就一两个月……根本不可能。
人们带着不切实际的期待来找你,结果他们自己达不到这个预期反倒要生你的气。我遇见过很多肥胖的客人找到我,跟我说他们想要在某个社交活动(朋友婚礼,班级聚会,昂贵的度假之类的)开始之前减个二十多磅(9公斤以上),但是他们却拒绝改变自己的饮食。而且截止日期可能就一两个月……根本不可能。
It's like I'm your "gym dad" but I only get one hour of visitation rights per week and I can't possibly undo all the damage that living with your mother has done to you.
就好像我是你“健身房里的老父亲”,但是我每个星期只能合法探访你一个小时,所以我也没法治好你妈妈给你造成的所有伤害。
就好像我是你“健身房里的老父亲”,但是我每个星期只能合法探访你一个小时,所以我也没法治好你妈妈给你造成的所有伤害。
When you get a client that really wants to push hard and follow directions it feels amazing to watch their progress but that's actually pretty rare.
但是当你遇到一个真的想要逼自己一把,能够接受指导的客户的时候,看着他们不断进步真的让人感觉很好,但这种客户实在太少见了。
但是当你遇到一个真的想要逼自己一把,能够接受指导的客户的时候,看着他们不断进步真的让人感觉很好,但这种客户实在太少见了。
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