话题讨论：为什么俄罗斯的低成本苏联时代的“智能”炸弹对乌克兰的防御如此有效？
正文翻译
Russian missile attacks have become part of everyday life for the people of Ukraine. Western air defense systems have helped Ukraine deal with these attacks. But on the front lines the threat from ever larger and more dangerous Russian glide bombs is growing. DW correspondent Nick Connolly meets Ukrainian soldiers who are learning to live with this danger.
俄罗斯的导弹袭击已经成为乌克兰人民日常生活的一部分。西方防空系统帮助乌克兰应对了这些袭击。但在前线，来自更大、更危险的俄罗斯滑翔炸弹的威胁正在增加。德国之声记者尼克·康诺利采访了乌克兰士兵，他们正在学习如何面对这种危险。
Russian missile attacks have become part of everyday life for the people of Ukraine. Western air defense systems have helped Ukraine deal with these attacks. But on the front lines the threat from ever larger and more dangerous Russian glide bombs is growing. DW correspondent Nick Connolly meets Ukrainian soldiers who are learning to live with this danger.
俄罗斯的导弹袭击已经成为乌克兰人民日常生活的一部分。西方防空系统帮助乌克兰应对了这些袭击。但在前线，来自更大、更危险的俄罗斯滑翔炸弹的威胁正在增加。德国之声记者尼克·康诺利采访了乌克兰士兵，他们正在学习如何面对这种危险。
评论翻译
@jesusaguilar4585
After 2 years of American and European expensive "Game Changers" that turned out to be over rated, it turned out that the Game Changer was an inexpensive Soviet era technology bomb with wings.
在美国和欧洲昂贵的“游戏改变者”被高估了两年之后，事实证明，游戏改变者是一种廉价的采用苏联时代技术的带翅膀的炸弹。
After 2 years of American and European expensive "Game Changers" that turned out to be over rated, it turned out that the Game Changer was an inexpensive Soviet era technology bomb with wings.
在美国和欧洲昂贵的“游戏改变者”被高估了两年之后，事实证明，游戏改变者是一种廉价的采用苏联时代技术的带翅膀的炸弹。
@Tristan87688
There is a reason why the AK-47 is still the most used rifle around the world, and not the M16...
世界上使用最多的步枪仍然是AK-47，而不是M16，这是有原因的……
There is a reason why the AK-47 is still the most used rifle around the world, and not the M16...
世界上使用最多的步枪仍然是AK-47，而不是M16，这是有原因的……
@mindxplode2216
I heard Russia also puts wings on shovels and then drops them from aircraft. Those are extra unstoppable.
我听说俄罗斯还把翅膀装在“铁锹”上，然后从飞机上丢下来。这些都是不可阻挡的。
I heard Russia also puts wings on shovels and then drops them from aircraft. Those are extra unstoppable.
我听说俄罗斯还把翅膀装在“铁锹”上，然后从飞机上丢下来。这些都是不可阻挡的。
@MGZetta
Have they forgot the leaked pentagon reports about JDAM performance in Ukraine? Ukraine used JDAM which is the same glide bomb Russia is using but is advertised as "better, more accurate, and more modern". Yet Russia made them almost useless by jamming GPS.
难道他们忘了五角大楼泄露的关于乌克兰JDAM性能的报告吗? 乌克兰使用的是JDAM，与俄罗斯使用的滑翔炸弹相同，但被宣传为“更好，更准确，更现代”。然而，俄罗斯通过干扰全球定位系统使它们几乎毫无用处。
Have they forgot the leaked pentagon reports about JDAM performance in Ukraine? Ukraine used JDAM which is the same glide bomb Russia is using but is advertised as "better, more accurate, and more modern". Yet Russia made them almost useless by jamming GPS.
难道他们忘了五角大楼泄露的关于乌克兰JDAM性能的报告吗? 乌克兰使用的是JDAM，与俄罗斯使用的滑翔炸弹相同，但被宣传为“更好，更准确，更现代”。然而，俄罗斯通过干扰全球定位系统使它们几乎毫无用处。
@neptuno7351
Now I figure it out why NATO called the “shovels”. Only have to see the size of the crater it dig
现在我知道为什么北约叫它“铁锹”了。只需要看看它挖的坑有多大。
Now I figure it out why NATO called the “shovels”. Only have to see the size of the crater it dig
现在我知道为什么北约叫它“铁锹”了。只需要看看它挖的坑有多大。
@danielprw512
1.1 billion $ system vs 20.000$ Soviet bomb.
11亿美元的系统 vs 2万美元的苏联炸弹。
1.1 billion $ system vs 20.000$ Soviet bomb.
11亿美元的系统 vs 2万美元的苏联炸弹。
@pointgreece4331
The biggest country in the world, great science base, able to produce nuclear power plants, planes, rockets for space program, sattelites, two CPU manufacturers, enormous resources of commodies, energy, food backed by China and many other big countries in the world. Americans and British politicians think that Russia is Libya, Serbia, Iraq, Panama.
世界上最大的国家，极好的科学基础，能够生产核电站，飞机，用于太空计划的火箭，卫星，两个CPU制造商，巨大的商品资源，能源，食品，由中国和世界上许多其他大国支持。美国和英国政客认为俄罗斯是利比亚、塞尔维亚、伊拉克或者巴拿马。
The biggest country in the world, great science base, able to produce nuclear power plants, planes, rockets for space program, sattelites, two CPU manufacturers, enormous resources of commodies, energy, food backed by China and many other big countries in the world. Americans and British politicians think that Russia is Libya, Serbia, Iraq, Panama.
世界上最大的国家，极好的科学基础，能够生产核电站，飞机，用于太空计划的火箭，卫星，两个CPU制造商，巨大的商品资源，能源，食品，由中国和世界上许多其他大国支持。美国和英国政客认为俄罗斯是利比亚、塞尔维亚、伊拉克或者巴拿马。
@operator9858
Its difficult to admit the truth after 2 and a half years of lies isnt it?
经过两年半的谎言后，很难承认真相，不是吗?
Its difficult to admit the truth after 2 and a half years of lies isnt it?
经过两年半的谎言后，很难承认真相，不是吗?
@magaalga
A 64-year-old grandmother in Transcarpathia was sentenced to 5 years in prison for celebrating Cosmonautics Day.
On April 12, 2024, a pensioner from the village of Bedevlya, Tyachiv district, Transcarpathian region, published a post on her page on the Odnoklassniki social network dedicated to the celebration of Cosmonautics Day.
The grandmother posted a photo with Yuri Gagarin with the caption “Thank you, Yuri Alekseevich.”
外喀尔巴阡山脉一位64岁的老奶奶因庆祝宇航员日而被判5年监禁。
2024年4月12日，一位来自外喀尔巴阡地区Tyachiv区Bedevlya村的退休老人在社交网络Odnoklassniki的页面上发表了一篇文章，专门庆祝宇航员日。
这位祖母上传了一张与尤里·加加林的照片，并配文“谢谢你，尤里·阿列克谢耶维奇。”
A 64-year-old grandmother in Transcarpathia was sentenced to 5 years in prison for celebrating Cosmonautics Day.
On April 12, 2024, a pensioner from the village of Bedevlya, Tyachiv district, Transcarpathian region, published a post on her page on the Odnoklassniki social network dedicated to the celebration of Cosmonautics Day.
The grandmother posted a photo with Yuri Gagarin with the caption “Thank you, Yuri Alekseevich.”
外喀尔巴阡山脉一位64岁的老奶奶因庆祝宇航员日而被判5年监禁。
2024年4月12日，一位来自外喀尔巴阡地区Tyachiv区Bedevlya村的退休老人在社交网络Odnoklassniki的页面上发表了一篇文章，专门庆祝宇航员日。
这位祖母上传了一张与尤里·加加林的照片，并配文“谢谢你，尤里·阿列克谢耶维奇。”
Five years in prison.
A stinking, shameful pseudo-state. The prison of nations is vile. Populated by frightened slaves, where one half is shaking and dreams of escaping, and the other half is chasing the first
5年监禁。
一个臭气熏天、可耻的伪国家。这个可憎的列国的牢狱。那里住着受惊的奴隶，一半在颤抖，梦想着逃跑，另一半在追逐前者。
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A stinking, shameful pseudo-state. The prison of nations is vile. Populated by frightened slaves, where one half is shaking and dreams of escaping, and the other half is chasing the first
5年监禁。
一个臭气熏天、可耻的伪国家。这个可憎的列国的牢狱。那里住着受惊的奴隶，一半在颤抖，梦想着逃跑，另一半在追逐前者。
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@user-mu9ke9ex9f
American defense contractors must be in rage! How dare those Russians produce cheap weapons! Bad for business. Outrages!
美国国防承包商一定非常愤怒! 那些俄罗斯人怎么敢生产廉价武器! 对生意不利。暴行!
American defense contractors must be in rage! How dare those Russians produce cheap weapons! Bad for business. Outrages!
美国国防承包商一定非常愤怒! 那些俄罗斯人怎么敢生产廉价武器! 对生意不利。暴行!
@harshmishra2075
Last year DW was saying that Russia doesn't have weapons now they are crying again
去年德国之声说俄罗斯没有武器，现在他们又哭了。
Last year DW was saying that Russia doesn't have weapons now they are crying again
去年德国之声说俄罗斯没有武器，现在他们又哭了。
@IPAITH
US: Spends trillions on research and innovation.
RUS: Puts wings on a 60 year old bomb and just sends it.
美国:在研究和创新上花费数万亿美元。
俄罗斯:给一个60年的老炸弹插上翅膀，然后把它扔出去。
US: Spends trillions on research and innovation.
RUS: Puts wings on a 60 year old bomb and just sends it.
美国:在研究和创新上花费数万亿美元。
俄罗斯:给一个60年的老炸弹插上翅膀，然后把它扔出去。
@sumansaha295
Those washing machines sure pack a punch.
那些洗衣机的威力可真大。
Those washing machines sure pack a punch.
那些洗衣机的威力可真大。
@benanders4412
“NASA spent millions of dollars inventing the ball-point pen so they could write in space. The Russians took a pencil.”
“美国宇航局花了数百万美元发明圆珠笔，这样他们就可以在太空中写字了。俄国人拿了一支铅笔。”
“NASA spent millions of dollars inventing the ball-point pen so they could write in space. The Russians took a pencil.”
“美国宇航局花了数百万美元发明圆珠笔，这样他们就可以在太空中写字了。俄国人拿了一支铅笔。”
@RoyalBlue292
These Shovels and washing machines are so precise!
这些铁锹和洗衣机太精密了!
These Shovels and washing machines are so precise!
这些铁锹和洗衣机太精密了!
@PerceivedREALITY999
The proxy war in Ukraine is the first time NATO has tried to pick on someone their own size and NATO is getting humiliated.
乌克兰的代理人战争是北约第一次试图对一个与自己规模相仿的国家挑麻烦，所以北约正受到羞辱。
The proxy war in Ukraine is the first time NATO has tried to pick on someone their own size and NATO is getting humiliated.
乌克兰的代理人战争是北约第一次试图对一个与自己规模相仿的国家挑麻烦，所以北约正受到羞辱。
@shinji1264
Proof that everything new isn't better.
证明并非所有新事物都更好。
Proof that everything new isn't better.
证明并非所有新事物都更好。
@silafaupaulmeredith7251
When you have a limited budget innovation takes place. When you have an indefinite budget, you just bribe your Officials for more and more and have over 900 unnecessary bases around the world but could not produce 155mm ammunition in sufficient quantities
当你的预算有限时，创新就会发生。当你有无限期的预算时，你只会越来越多的贿赂你的官员，在世界各地搞900多个不必要的基地，却不能生产足够数量的155毫米弹药。
When you have a limited budget innovation takes place. When you have an indefinite budget, you just bribe your Officials for more and more and have over 900 unnecessary bases around the world but could not produce 155mm ammunition in sufficient quantities
当你的预算有限时，创新就会发生。当你有无限期的预算时，你只会越来越多的贿赂你的官员，在世界各地搞900多个不必要的基地，却不能生产足够数量的155毫米弹药。
@botshelomoatshe3153
But Russia is out of weapons and Ukraine is winning right.. right?
但是俄罗斯没有武器了，乌克兰赢了……对吧?
But Russia is out of weapons and Ukraine is winning right.. right?
但是俄罗斯没有武器了，乌克兰赢了……对吧?
@michaelfaraday8391
imagine $20,000 bomb wreaking havoc that multimillion air defenses can't defend against!
想象一下，2万美元的炸弹造成巨大破坏，价值数百万的防空系统却无法防御!
imagine $20,000 bomb wreaking havoc that multimillion air defenses can't defend against!
想象一下，2万美元的炸弹造成巨大破坏，价值数百万的防空系统却无法防御!
@Ciilow24
Washing machines work better than expensive western equipment
洗衣机比昂贵的西方设备好用。
Washing machines work better than expensive western equipment
洗衣机比昂贵的西方设备好用。
@robo__cop8154
fun fact these glide bombs are very difficult to track by radar ,often seen a a dot on screen which then disappears
有趣的是，这些滑翔炸弹很难被雷达跟踪，通常在屏幕上看到一个点，然后消失。
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fun fact these glide bombs are very difficult to track by radar ,often seen a a dot on screen which then disappears
有趣的是，这些滑翔炸弹很难被雷达跟踪，通常在屏幕上看到一个点，然后消失。
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@Cherrechnya
The main thing to remember: Russia burned exactly as many times as its enemies were defeated.
In Russia, the main value is family, loved ones: parents, brothers, sisters, children, friends. Now we do not feel a threat from Ukraine and the West; local conflicts have always arisen in all parts of the globe. Most Russian citizens continue to live peaceful lives, rarely feeling the presence of war. BUT! But if each of us feels a threat to our native land, our home, and, in the end, our family and friends, then everyone will take up arms and, if necessary, give their lives for all this (even women, for example, my mother in 1969 I don’t mind fighting if necessary). And, believe me, the cost of our lives for those who started all this will be very high. Even if we suddenly lose, even if we all die, we will take with us as many enemies as possible, and perhaps all of them. Russia is not currently fighting with all its personnel, with all means and at full strength. I am 29, I am a man, all my friends live peacefully and not a single one participates in the SVO. Russia does not fight with all means, as, for example, Israel does in Palestine. Russia does not fight according to the NATO principle, when everything around is turned to ashes by bombs. BUT THIS COULD START SOON. I don’t think anyone really wants this, neither from Russia nor from the West.
最重要的是要记住：俄罗斯被烧毁的次数和它的敌人被打败的次数一样多。
在俄罗斯，主要的价值观是家庭，亲人：父母，兄弟姐妹，孩子，朋友。现在我们感觉不到来自乌克兰和西方的威胁；世界各地总是出现局部冲突。大多数俄罗斯公民继续过着和平的生活，很少感受到战争的存在。但是! 但是，如果我们每个人都感到我们的祖国、我们的家园，最后，我们的家人和朋友受到威胁，那么每个人都会拿起武器，必要时，为这一切献出生命(即使是女人，比如1969年的我母亲，如果有必要，我也不介意打仗)。相信我，我们的生命代价将会非常高昂。即使我们突然失败，即使我们都死了，我们也会带走尽可能多的敌人，也许是所有的敌人。俄罗斯目前并没有动用所有人员、所有手段和全部力量进行战斗。我29岁，我是一个男人，我所有的朋友都过着和平的生活，没有一个人参加特别军事行动。俄罗斯不像以色列在巴勒斯坦那样不择手段。当周围的一切都被炸弹变成灰烬时，俄罗斯不会按照北约的原则作战。但这可能很快就会开始。我认为没有人真的希望这样，无论是俄罗斯还是西方。
The main thing to remember: Russia burned exactly as many times as its enemies were defeated.
In Russia, the main value is family, loved ones: parents, brothers, sisters, children, friends. Now we do not feel a threat from Ukraine and the West; local conflicts have always arisen in all parts of the globe. Most Russian citizens continue to live peaceful lives, rarely feeling the presence of war. BUT! But if each of us feels a threat to our native land, our home, and, in the end, our family and friends, then everyone will take up arms and, if necessary, give their lives for all this (even women, for example, my mother in 1969 I don’t mind fighting if necessary). And, believe me, the cost of our lives for those who started all this will be very high. Even if we suddenly lose, even if we all die, we will take with us as many enemies as possible, and perhaps all of them. Russia is not currently fighting with all its personnel, with all means and at full strength. I am 29, I am a man, all my friends live peacefully and not a single one participates in the SVO. Russia does not fight with all means, as, for example, Israel does in Palestine. Russia does not fight according to the NATO principle, when everything around is turned to ashes by bombs. BUT THIS COULD START SOON. I don’t think anyone really wants this, neither from Russia nor from the West.
最重要的是要记住：俄罗斯被烧毁的次数和它的敌人被打败的次数一样多。
在俄罗斯，主要的价值观是家庭，亲人：父母，兄弟姐妹，孩子，朋友。现在我们感觉不到来自乌克兰和西方的威胁；世界各地总是出现局部冲突。大多数俄罗斯公民继续过着和平的生活，很少感受到战争的存在。但是! 但是，如果我们每个人都感到我们的祖国、我们的家园，最后，我们的家人和朋友受到威胁，那么每个人都会拿起武器，必要时，为这一切献出生命(即使是女人，比如1969年的我母亲，如果有必要，我也不介意打仗)。相信我，我们的生命代价将会非常高昂。即使我们突然失败，即使我们都死了，我们也会带走尽可能多的敌人，也许是所有的敌人。俄罗斯目前并没有动用所有人员、所有手段和全部力量进行战斗。我29岁，我是一个男人，我所有的朋友都过着和平的生活，没有一个人参加特别军事行动。俄罗斯不像以色列在巴勒斯坦那样不择手段。当周围的一切都被炸弹变成灰烬时，俄罗斯不会按照北约的原则作战。但这可能很快就会开始。我认为没有人真的希望这样，无论是俄罗斯还是西方。
@a.brekkan4965
What makes the glide bombs a game changers is the fact that the Russians have millions of them. They can keep throwing them for many years.
滑翔炸弹之所以能改变游戏规则，是因为俄罗斯拥有数以百万计的滑翔炸弹。他们可以连续扔很多年。
What makes the glide bombs a game changers is the fact that the Russians have millions of them. They can keep throwing them for many years.
滑翔炸弹之所以能改变游戏规则，是因为俄罗斯拥有数以百万计的滑翔炸弹。他们可以连续扔很多年。
@SurinderNagi-yw6qn
DW and experts are learning russian way again in 21st century.
德国之声和专家们在21世纪再次学习俄罗斯的方式。
DW and experts are learning russian way again in 21st century.
德国之声和专家们在21世纪再次学习俄罗斯的方式。
@hexbinoban6170
Man these are descendants of people who put Yuri Gagarin into space , when Americans were still swinging in trees.
What do you expect from them , they're creative, very fast adaptable to multiple war situation. Good at chess, math and physics.
They can modify a dumb bomb very fast into a smart guided one if they put effort into it.
他们是把尤里·加加林送入太空的人的后代，当时美国人还在树上晃荡。
你对他们有什么期望，他们很有创造力，能很快适应多种战争情况。擅长国际象棋、数学和物理。
他们可以很快地把一枚哑弹改装成一枚智能制导炸弹，如果他们努力的话。
Man these are descendants of people who put Yuri Gagarin into space , when Americans were still swinging in trees.
What do you expect from them , they're creative, very fast adaptable to multiple war situation. Good at chess, math and physics.
They can modify a dumb bomb very fast into a smart guided one if they put effort into it.
他们是把尤里·加加林送入太空的人的后代，当时美国人还在树上晃荡。
你对他们有什么期望，他们很有创造力，能很快适应多种战争情况。擅长国际象棋、数学和物理。
他们可以很快地把一枚哑弹改装成一枚智能制导炸弹，如果他们努力的话。
@TodaTruth
“FAB 3000” is a Game Changer not challenger 2 ,not Abrams & not Leopard
游戏规则改变者是“FAB 3000”，不是挑战者2，不是艾布拉姆斯或豹豹。
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“FAB 3000” is a Game Changer not challenger 2 ,not Abrams & not Leopard
游戏规则改变者是“FAB 3000”，不是挑战者2，不是艾布拉姆斯或豹豹。
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@alvaromattos4955
Russia is using 'old' missiles and at the same time creating new ones. In other words, it is renewing its arsenal thanks to Europe.
俄罗斯在使用“旧”导弹的同时也在制造新导弹。换句话说，多亏了欧洲，它正在更新自己的武器库。
Russia is using 'old' missiles and at the same time creating new ones. In other words, it is renewing its arsenal thanks to Europe.
俄罗斯在使用“旧”导弹的同时也在制造新导弹。换句话说，多亏了欧洲，它正在更新自己的武器库。
@user-uj4sd5ho3s
Navy veteran from the Kherson region Yuriy Bulbach said that he had been waiting for Russia for 30 years. RIA Novosti writes about this. He emphasized that he took the oath to his Motherland once and he has only one. Bulbach began serving in the Soviet army in the Black Sea Fleet. After that he was transferred to the Baltic. After the collapse of the Soviet unx, he refused to take the oath of office in Ukraine. Every year he raised the Soviet naval flag on holidays, without fear of persecution from Kiev. On May 9, Kyiv residents brought flowers to the Eternal Flame in the Park of Glory in the morning, despite the fact that the Ukrainian authorities The holiday was moved to May 8. The Victory Parade in Moscow was broadcast by many cable channels in the Odessa region.
来自赫尔松地区的海军老兵尤里·巴尔巴赫说，他等待俄罗斯已经30年了。俄新社对此进行了报道。他强调说，他对祖国宣誓过一次，他只有一个祖国。巴尔巴赫开始在苏联军队黑海舰队服役。之后，他被调到波罗的海。苏联解体后，他拒绝在乌克兰宣誓就职。每年他都会在节日升起苏联海军的旗帜，不怕基辅的迫害。5月9日上午，基辅居民带着鲜花来到荣耀公园的永恒之火前，尽管乌克兰当局将节日改到了5月8日。敖德萨地区的许多有线电视频道播出了莫斯科的胜利游行。
Navy veteran from the Kherson region Yuriy Bulbach said that he had been waiting for Russia for 30 years. RIA Novosti writes about this. He emphasized that he took the oath to his Motherland once and he has only one. Bulbach began serving in the Soviet army in the Black Sea Fleet. After that he was transferred to the Baltic. After the collapse of the Soviet unx, he refused to take the oath of office in Ukraine. Every year he raised the Soviet naval flag on holidays, without fear of persecution from Kiev. On May 9, Kyiv residents brought flowers to the Eternal Flame in the Park of Glory in the morning, despite the fact that the Ukrainian authorities The holiday was moved to May 8. The Victory Parade in Moscow was broadcast by many cable channels in the Odessa region.
来自赫尔松地区的海军老兵尤里·巴尔巴赫说，他等待俄罗斯已经30年了。俄新社对此进行了报道。他强调说，他对祖国宣誓过一次，他只有一个祖国。巴尔巴赫开始在苏联军队黑海舰队服役。之后，他被调到波罗的海。苏联解体后，他拒绝在乌克兰宣誓就职。每年他都会在节日升起苏联海军的旗帜，不怕基辅的迫害。5月9日上午，基辅居民带着鲜花来到荣耀公园的永恒之火前，尽管乌克兰当局将节日改到了5月8日。敖德萨地区的许多有线电视频道播出了莫斯科的胜利游行。
@D-E-S_8559
soviet weapons were mass produced with so much care and THOUGHTFUL disdain for defeating the US...
苏联大规模生产武器是为了打败美国，这是精心设计的。
soviet weapons were mass produced with so much care and THOUGHTFUL disdain for defeating the US...
苏联大规模生产武器是为了打败美国，这是精心设计的。
@TopDerecho
it's sad that all those young men are being sent to die
那些年轻人都被送去送死，真令人难过。
it's sad that all those young men are being sent to die
那些年轻人都被送去送死，真令人难过。
@albertchambers6370
Now thats power! No holding back
这就是力量! 毫无保留。
Now thats power! No holding back
这就是力量! 毫无保留。
@kn0wmore126
Every piece of Russian military equipment is cheaper, and often better, than it's American equivalent. Cheaper in development, production ánd maintenance. The difference is significant, ranging from 1/2 price to 1/10 or less. This is not at all unique to these glide bombs. Btw, it's not that their equipment is no cheap...it's that US equipment is extremely expensive.
俄罗斯的每一件军事装备都比美国的同类产品更便宜，而且往往更好。开发，生产和维护都更便宜。差别很大，从1/2到1/10甚至更少。这一点并不是滑翔炸弹所独有的。顺便说一句，这并不是说他们的设备不便宜……而是美国的设备非常昂贵。
Every piece of Russian military equipment is cheaper, and often better, than it's American equivalent. Cheaper in development, production ánd maintenance. The difference is significant, ranging from 1/2 price to 1/10 or less. This is not at all unique to these glide bombs. Btw, it's not that their equipment is no cheap...it's that US equipment is extremely expensive.
俄罗斯的每一件军事装备都比美国的同类产品更便宜，而且往往更好。开发，生产和维护都更便宜。差别很大，从1/2到1/10甚至更少。这一点并不是滑翔炸弹所独有的。顺便说一句，这并不是说他们的设备不便宜……而是美国的设备非常昂贵。
@davd1986
LOL. Good job DW, it only took you guys over 2 years to figure it out.
哈哈。干得好，DW，你们只花了2年多的时间就弄明白了。
LOL. Good job DW, it only took you guys over 2 years to figure it out.
哈哈。干得好，DW，你们只花了2年多的时间就弄明白了。
@---lm5si
The less than honest 'expert' not mentioning that Russia blew off the Patriot systems to smithreens is so conspicuous and that's the reason why others have now stopped even talking about thier anti-missile systems whom they had vaunted as if they were invincible/infallible systems.
不诚实的“专家”没有提到俄罗斯把爱国者系统炸成碎片，这是如此引人注目，这就是为什么其他人现在甚至不再谈论他们的反导系统的原因，他们曾经吹嘘过它们是无敌/绝对可靠的系统。
The less than honest 'expert' not mentioning that Russia blew off the Patriot systems to smithreens is so conspicuous and that's the reason why others have now stopped even talking about thier anti-missile systems whom they had vaunted as if they were invincible/infallible systems.
不诚实的“专家”没有提到俄罗斯把爱国者系统炸成碎片，这是如此引人注目，这就是为什么其他人现在甚至不再谈论他们的反导系统的原因，他们曾经吹嘘过它们是无敌/绝对可靠的系统。
@triglavbog7527
This is ok. But what about those mighty russian shovels?
没关系。但是那些强大的俄罗斯铁锹呢?
This is ok. But what about those mighty russian shovels?
没关系。但是那些强大的俄罗斯铁锹呢?
@Sveta7
These bombs actually have glide wings made out of shovels and washing machine gps as a brain...
这些炸弹实际上是由用铲子做成的滑翔翼，用洗衣机的GPS作为大脑构成的……
These bombs actually have glide wings made out of shovels and washing machine gps as a brain...
这些炸弹实际上是由用铲子做成的滑翔翼，用洗衣机的GPS作为大脑构成的……
@FriendlyMartian
Sad all around. War is brutal.
悲伤四处弥漫。战争是残酷的。
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Sad all around. War is brutal.
悲伤四处弥漫。战争是残酷的。
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@sabprogroup8623
You mean to tell me those flying shovels are actually working? What next, turtle tanks?
你是说那些飞行铲子真的起作用了吗? 下一个是什么，乌龟缸吗?
You mean to tell me those flying shovels are actually working? What next, turtle tanks?
你是说那些飞行铲子真的起作用了吗? 下一个是什么，乌龟缸吗?
@alex4863
Russian Kalashnikov will always hold the record for highest body count, why would he get new toy when something indestructible n reliable compared to the new toys?
俄罗斯的卡拉什尼科夫步枪一直保持着最高死亡人数的记录，既然与新玩具相比，他拥有坚不可摧和可靠的东西，为什么他要买新玩具?
Russian Kalashnikov will always hold the record for highest body count, why would he get new toy when something indestructible n reliable compared to the new toys?
俄罗斯的卡拉什尼科夫步枪一直保持着最高死亡人数的记录，既然与新玩具相比，他拥有坚不可摧和可靠的东西，为什么他要买新玩具?
@zatoichiable
russia has so much of those bomb from the soviet eras now being put to use against Ukraine...
俄罗斯有这么多苏联时代的炸弹，现在被用来对付乌克兰……
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russia has so much of those bomb from the soviet eras now being put to use against Ukraine...
俄罗斯有这么多苏联时代的炸弹，现在被用来对付乌克兰……
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@arifchowdhury7425
it's not about how advance , it's about how effective.
重要的不是有多先进，而是有多有效。
it's not about how advance , it's about how effective.
重要的不是有多先进，而是有多有效。
@williamhunt6439
A great example of military adaptation and innovation. Cheap and effective.
这是军事适应和创新的一个很好的例子。既便宜又有效。
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A great example of military adaptation and innovation. Cheap and effective.
这是军事适应和创新的一个很好的例子。既便宜又有效。
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@Toyota_Supra-cp2ug
how dare they use old munition they sould be ashamed of them selves
他们怎么敢使用他们自己都该感到羞耻的旧武器。
how dare they use old munition they sould be ashamed of them selves
他们怎么敢使用他们自己都该感到羞耻的旧武器。
@goodluckogbenna8267
Those washing machines sure make an impact when they hit the ground.
当然那些洗衣机一落地就会产生冲击力。
Those washing machines sure make an impact when they hit the ground.
当然那些洗衣机一落地就会产生冲击力。
@Noneofyourbusiness.-iw6zb
How many of these old Soviet bombs you have?
Russia: YES.
你有多少老式苏联炸弹?
俄罗斯：有的是。
How many of these old Soviet bombs you have?
Russia: YES.
你有多少老式苏联炸弹?
俄罗斯：有的是。
@PerceivedREALITY999
People who think that Ukraine is winning are living in denial. They seek comfort in subjective reality and ignore all the facts.
那些认为乌克兰正在获胜的人是在否认现实。他们在主观现实中寻求安慰，而忽略了所有的事实。
People who think that Ukraine is winning are living in denial. They seek comfort in subjective reality and ignore all the facts.
那些认为乌克兰正在获胜的人是在否认现实。他们在主观现实中寻求安慰，而忽略了所有的事实。
@jacqueslee2592
"If it kills, then it works."
“能杀人就是好东西。”
"If it kills, then it works."
“能杀人就是好东西。”
@steveanajafi734
American Military Industrial Complex: Main priority-Profitability
Russian Military- Efficiency and effectiveness!
美国军工联合体主要优先考虑:盈利能力，
俄罗斯军队：效率和效力!
American Military Industrial Complex: Main priority-Profitability
Russian Military- Efficiency and effectiveness!
美国军工联合体主要优先考虑:盈利能力，
俄罗斯军队：效率和效力!
@steveg2406
Simple Analog technology isn't affected by digital electronic warfare.
简单模拟技术不受数字电子战的影响。
Simple Analog technology isn't affected by digital electronic warfare.
简单模拟技术不受数字电子战的影响。
@nelsonnaiding3094
Russia has only shovel
俄罗斯只有铁锹。
Russia has only shovel
俄罗斯只有铁锹。
@Karim-fo8zl
these are some powerful bombs with shovels as wings
这些是一些威力巨大的炸弹，用铲子做翅膀。
these are some powerful bombs with shovels as wings
这些是一些威力巨大的炸弹，用铲子做翅膀。
@dfui.
When Russia finally pulls off the gloves, Ukraine gon learn
当俄罗斯最终脱下手套时，乌克兰将吸取教训。
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When Russia finally pulls off the gloves, Ukraine gon learn
当俄罗斯最终脱下手套时，乌克兰将吸取教训。
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@anymii6045
Necessity gives birth to innovation
需求催生创新。
Necessity gives birth to innovation
需求催生创新。
@peripheral1258
The first tid-bits of reality ever heard on DW News:
" There's probably two or three reasons 'why Ukraine hasn't gotten many western defence systems' You need crews to operate them; have missiles to fire from them. It's not just a case of giving Ukraine a piece of equipment; we have to give them the capability to use it". or:
"if you see what happens in Ukraine and you haven't got many of these systems yourself and you haven't got enough for your own country and you're not sure where you're going to get another one from' would you be willing to give the one you have to Ukraine or do you keep the one you have ?"
IT IS TRAGIC THAT THE USA WON'T LET -DID NOT LET UKRAINE AGREE in BELARUS AND ISTANBUL. THIS IS AN UNNECESSARY WAR.
在德国之声新闻中听到的第一个现实片段:
“乌克兰没有得到很多西方防御系统可能有两三个原因。需要工作人员来操作它们；从那里发射导弹。这不仅仅是给乌克兰一件装备的问题；我们必须让他们有能力使用它。”或者:
“如果你看到乌克兰发生的事情，你自己没有很多这样的系统，你自己的国家没有足够的系统，你不确定你将从哪里获得另一个系统，你愿意把你的东西给乌克兰还是自己留着?”
可悲的是，美国没有让乌克兰在白俄罗斯和伊斯坦布尔达成协议。这是一场不必要的战争。
The first tid-bits of reality ever heard on DW News:
" There's probably two or three reasons 'why Ukraine hasn't gotten many western defence systems' You need crews to operate them; have missiles to fire from them. It's not just a case of giving Ukraine a piece of equipment; we have to give them the capability to use it". or:
"if you see what happens in Ukraine and you haven't got many of these systems yourself and you haven't got enough for your own country and you're not sure where you're going to get another one from' would you be willing to give the one you have to Ukraine or do you keep the one you have ?"
IT IS TRAGIC THAT THE USA WON'T LET -DID NOT LET UKRAINE AGREE in BELARUS AND ISTANBUL. THIS IS AN UNNECESSARY WAR.
在德国之声新闻中听到的第一个现实片段:
“乌克兰没有得到很多西方防御系统可能有两三个原因。需要工作人员来操作它们；从那里发射导弹。这不仅仅是给乌克兰一件装备的问题；我们必须让他们有能力使用它。”或者:
“如果你看到乌克兰发生的事情，你自己没有很多这样的系统，你自己的国家没有足够的系统，你不确定你将从哪里获得另一个系统，你愿意把你的东西给乌克兰还是自己留着?”
可悲的是，美国没有让乌克兰在白俄罗斯和伊斯坦布尔达成协议。这是一场不必要的战争。
@springbloom5940
Of course everyone has to make it sound like some kind of hillbilly rig. Russia has had PGM for decades. They were the first to field a guided artillery round and the first to use one in combat. The US used Vietnam era bombs in Iraq with JDAM bolt on kits. The Paveway, the US' LASER guided bomb, is a bolt on kit (my dad worked on the assembly line for them at TI right after he got out of the Navy). The only thing 'new' for Russia, about these bombs, is the glide kit which is a bit more sophisticated than a simple GPS guided gravity bomb.
当然每个人都得把它说得像乡巴佬的玩意。俄罗斯拥有PGM已经几十年了。他们是第一个发射制导炮弹的国家，也是第一个在战斗中使用制导炮弹的国家。美国在伊拉克使用了越南时代的炸弹，在套件上安装了可拆卸的JDAM。宝石路，美国的激光制导炸弹，就是一种可拆卸套件(我爸爸从海军退役后就在德州仪器的装配线上为他们工作)。对俄罗斯来说，这些炸弹唯一的“新”之处是滑翔套件，它比简单的GPS制导重力炸弹要复杂一点。
Of course everyone has to make it sound like some kind of hillbilly rig. Russia has had PGM for decades. They were the first to field a guided artillery round and the first to use one in combat. The US used Vietnam era bombs in Iraq with JDAM bolt on kits. The Paveway, the US' LASER guided bomb, is a bolt on kit (my dad worked on the assembly line for them at TI right after he got out of the Navy). The only thing 'new' for Russia, about these bombs, is the glide kit which is a bit more sophisticated than a simple GPS guided gravity bomb.
当然每个人都得把它说得像乡巴佬的玩意。俄罗斯拥有PGM已经几十年了。他们是第一个发射制导炮弹的国家，也是第一个在战斗中使用制导炮弹的国家。美国在伊拉克使用了越南时代的炸弹，在套件上安装了可拆卸的JDAM。宝石路，美国的激光制导炸弹，就是一种可拆卸套件(我爸爸从海军退役后就在德州仪器的装配线上为他们工作)。对俄罗斯来说，这些炸弹唯一的“新”之处是滑翔套件，它比简单的GPS制导重力炸弹要复杂一点。
@cornpop1970
Russia in tatters according to Von der Lion
根据冯·德·莱恩的说法，俄罗斯已经支离破碎。
Russia in tatters according to Von der Lion
根据冯·德·莱恩的说法，俄罗斯已经支离破碎。
@user-qq5ut1rb6p
So, at the beginning he said that is only FAB-250. These days FAB-1500 is in use...
所以，一开始他说那只是FAB-250。现在使用的是FAB-1500……
So, at the beginning he said that is only FAB-250. These days FAB-1500 is in use...
所以，一开始他说那只是FAB-250。现在使用的是FAB-1500……
@james7286
20k USD is the same as 2 western 155mm unguided artillery shell lol
2万美元相当于2枚西方155毫米非制导炮弹，哈哈。
20k USD is the same as 2 western 155mm unguided artillery shell lol
2万美元相当于2枚西方155毫米非制导炮弹，哈哈。
@Spott715
thoose shovels knows how to dig some soil
那些铁锹知道怎么挖土。
thoose shovels knows how to dig some soil
那些铁锹知道怎么挖土。
@ebiekem
Now THAT is smart.
这很聪明。
Now THAT is smart.
这很聪明。
@ryusuf3409
500 and 3000 is on the way
500和3000都在路上了。
500 and 3000 is on the way
500和3000都在路上了。
@tewodroszerihun1945
That is Economics 101! The effect is the one that matters not the cost!
这就是经济学101! 效果才是最重要的，而不是成本!
That is Economics 101! The effect is the one that matters not the cost!
这就是经济学101! 效果才是最重要的，而不是成本!
@TheRedkid20
If America had Russia's way of thinking about cost effectiveness and resourcefulness we wouldn't have the massive deficit we have today
如果美国有俄罗斯思考成本效益和足智多谋的方式，他们就不会有今天的巨额赤字。
If America had Russia's way of thinking about cost effectiveness and resourcefulness we wouldn't have the massive deficit we have today
如果美国有俄罗斯思考成本效益和足智多谋的方式，他们就不会有今天的巨额赤字。
@anotherbacklog
One Forbes article earlier reads:
Don’t Fear Russia’s 3.3-Ton Glide-Bomb. It’s Massive Overkill When A 1.1-Ton Glide-Bomb Will Kill You Just Fine.
Wonder how the soldiers on the receiving end are supposed to think when they see this article
《福布斯》早些时候的一篇文章写道:
不要害怕俄罗斯3.3吨的滑翔炸弹。当一枚1.1吨重的滑翔炸弹就能杀死你的时候，3吨的威力就过剩了。
不知道当士兵们看到这篇文章时，他们会怎么想。
One Forbes article earlier reads:
Don’t Fear Russia’s 3.3-Ton Glide-Bomb. It’s Massive Overkill When A 1.1-Ton Glide-Bomb Will Kill You Just Fine.
Wonder how the soldiers on the receiving end are supposed to think when they see this article
《福布斯》早些时候的一篇文章写道:
不要害怕俄罗斯3.3吨的滑翔炸弹。当一枚1.1吨重的滑翔炸弹就能杀死你的时候，3吨的威力就过剩了。
不知道当士兵们看到这篇文章时，他们会怎么想。
@TheBranchez
"Only" 250kgs and then this. Imagine what the 1.500kg and bigger ones do. This is just proof of Russian ingenuity and adaptability.
"只有" 250公斤，然后是这个。想象一下1500公斤或更大的玩意会是什么威力。这证明了俄罗斯人的聪明才智和适应能力。
"Only" 250kgs and then this. Imagine what the 1.500kg and bigger ones do. This is just proof of Russian ingenuity and adaptability.
"只有" 250公斤，然后是这个。想象一下1500公斤或更大的玩意会是什么威力。这证明了俄罗斯人的聪明才智和适应能力。
@marceloa2026
Life is not a video game
生活不是一场电子游戏。
Life is not a video game
生活不是一场电子游戏。
@firstnamecorrectlylastname713
other news : why old boeing planes are more effective
其他新闻：为什么老的波音飞机效果更好。
other news : why old boeing planes are more effective
其他新闻：为什么老的波音飞机效果更好。
@manikantamani5489
Russian Glide Rockets are definitely very very effective they are learning!!!!!!!!!!!
俄罗斯滑翔火箭绝对非常非常有效，他们正在学习!!
Russian Glide Rockets are definitely very very effective they are learning!!!!!!!!!!!
俄罗斯滑翔火箭绝对非常非常有效，他们正在学习!!
@paulacatina893
horrible war loses on both sides Prayers
可怕的战争让双方都输了，祈祷。
horrible war loses on both sides Prayers
可怕的战争让双方都输了，祈祷。
@thokozanimbambo50
Love the honesty of the expert
喜欢这个专家的诚实。
Love the honesty of the expert
喜欢这个专家的诚实。
@Andreas-gh6is
The biggest issue nobody is talking about is that Ukraine has lost its fighting spirit. Just the fact that they have to draft men into service is proof that not enough men are willing to risk their lives for their country. But it's a lot worse in reality: Those drafted overwhelmingly refuse being drafted. The worst they have to face is a fine. And don't get me wrong, I would do the same thing. I'd rather go into debt for the rest of my life rather than lose my life on the front lines. And most of those who go into service right now WILL die. This dynamic is not something Ukraine can survive. No country in a war can survive the unwillingness of its citizens to fight.
最大问题没有人谈论，就是乌克兰已经失去了战斗精神。他们必须征召男性入伍，这一事实本身就证明，愿意为国冒生命危险的男性还不够多。但现实情况要糟糕得多：被征召入伍的人绝大多数都拒绝被征召入伍。他们要面对的最坏情况就是罚款。别误会，我也会这么做的。我宁愿负债一生也不愿在前线牺牲生命。而现在投入服役的大多数人将会死去。这种动态不是乌克兰能够承受的。在战争中，没有一个国家能在其公民不愿战斗的情况下幸存下来。
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The biggest issue nobody is talking about is that Ukraine has lost its fighting spirit. Just the fact that they have to draft men into service is proof that not enough men are willing to risk their lives for their country. But it's a lot worse in reality: Those drafted overwhelmingly refuse being drafted. The worst they have to face is a fine. And don't get me wrong, I would do the same thing. I'd rather go into debt for the rest of my life rather than lose my life on the front lines. And most of those who go into service right now WILL die. This dynamic is not something Ukraine can survive. No country in a war can survive the unwillingness of its citizens to fight.
最大问题没有人谈论，就是乌克兰已经失去了战斗精神。他们必须征召男性入伍，这一事实本身就证明，愿意为国冒生命危险的男性还不够多。但现实情况要糟糕得多：被征召入伍的人绝大多数都拒绝被征召入伍。他们要面对的最坏情况就是罚款。别误会，我也会这么做的。我宁愿负债一生也不愿在前线牺牲生命。而现在投入服役的大多数人将会死去。这种动态不是乌克兰能够承受的。在战争中，没有一个国家能在其公民不愿战斗的情况下幸存下来。
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@awaks9338
In total, Russia fought for 489 years with 25 countries, that is, almost every year, if we count history from the 15th century. Sometimes she fought with several countries at the same time, so there were breaks in the series of wars. But there were definitely fewer peaceful years than war years.
总的来说，俄罗斯与25个国家打了489年的仗，也就是说，如果我们把15世纪以来的历史计算在内，几乎每年都打。有时她同时与几个国家作战，所以在一系列战争中有间歇。但和平年代肯定比战争年代少。
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In total, Russia fought for 489 years with 25 countries, that is, almost every year, if we count history from the 15th century. Sometimes she fought with several countries at the same time, so there were breaks in the series of wars. But there were definitely fewer peaceful years than war years.
总的来说，俄罗斯与25个国家打了489年的仗，也就是说，如果我们把15世纪以来的历史计算在内，几乎每年都打。有时她同时与几个国家作战，所以在一系列战争中有间歇。但和平年代肯定比战争年代少。
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